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>HURRRR IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO AFFORD COLLEGE AND HAVE THE TIME TO ATTEND WHILE WORKING A MINIMUM WAGE JOB
>HURRR GETTIN A JOB IS 2 HARD IMMA BE A NEET PIECE OF SHIT INSTEAD xd
Here's an idea... Don't go to College. Work instead.
>tfw ZERO debt
>tfw I started working my second year of HS and now make $12/hr at only 22 years old
Looks like someone's an angry little wagekek. There there, your two days of freedom have almost arrived.
Aren't there any free universities in the USA?
>>24723788
The irony of being forced to put text in a box to prove you're not a robot, when posting a quote from a robot as your commentary.
>>24723788
>$12/hr
wow anon.. u are sure living the good life
>>24723788
> and now make $12/hr at only 22 years old
Wait is that supposed to be a good thing? I make 14$/hour and go to school at the same time.
>>24723788
When I was a sophomore in highschool I was making 11$ an hour lifeguarding. You arnt a special snowflake.
>>24723922
Government jobs dont count you lazy entitled nigger leach
>>24723825
Looks like someone's an angry little fuckup. There there, your lifetime of failure is already upon you.
>>24723934
You're only proving my point
Its not ahrd to make a living, but the entitled NEETS here just think they deserve 100$ an hour just to do nothing
>19
>literally shitting money out of my ass because I decided to become a tradie
you'll pay off that denbts some time soon collegekeks
What the fuck you dumbfuck I'm making 12.50, 40 hrs a week and going to school as well. Why are you gloating
>>24724063
>want to be a tradie
>need to pay for school for this
>nobody wants an apprentice without 2 years experience
Trades being easy to get into is a meme
>>24724078
>Trades being easy to get into is a meme
Not the same anon you're responding to, but it took me about two months to get into a trade job making 21/hr fulltime. And that's entry-level wages.
>>24723788
>being proud of making $12/hr
A man in your position 30 years ago was probably making twice as much as you with far lower costs of living and better working conditions/benefits.
>>24723788
>Be me
>Live in Argentina
>The best FREE Universities of the world
>>24724078
stop being a retarded polkek and join the union
>>24724151
Thats because the government taxes the hell out of businesses now, so they cant afford to pay me more without going bacrupt
All the NEETS and welfare queens are destoring the american Middle class
I started working at 18. No decent job will hire me due to no degree, and retail/fastfood is a revolving door that fires over nothing. I'm 25 and make 8 dollars a hour.
Holy shit OP, are you seriously expecting anyone to be impressed with 12/hr. I make more than that waiting tables.
But I largely agree with you. Been working two jobs and a full-time student/living in my own for the last year and a half. Anyone who says it can't be done is a pussy quite frankly.
>>24724192
You're either trolling or incredibly delusional.
>>24724282
What are the hours on those two jobs youve got?
>>24723788
Are you seriously bragging about getting $12/hr at 22? Jesus Christ, I was making $15/hr my second year of high school.
>>24724192
>this post
well goy'ed goyim
>>24724192
Government spends at least 4 times on foreign wars as it does on aid programs. Aid programs are a drop in the bucket and don't amount to shit dumbfuck.
>>24724190
>still nowhere near the prestige and quality of American universities
>>24724309
Depends based on the season/special events and the like, but generally amounts to a full 40 hour work week. Been working a lot more recently at one because of holiday related stuff though. Also interning next semester in Marketing.
>>24723788
>$12/hr
Bait
>>24723788
>working since you were 15/16, meaning 7/6 years
>being PROUD of $12/hr after that long
Wagekeks, when will they learn?
>>24724355
>still nowhere near the prestige and quality of American universities
>literally implying
http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/international/central-and-south-america/argentina/
https://www.insidehighered.com/blogs/world-view/studying-argentina-free
>>24723788
>$12/hr at only 22 years old
Is this b8? I was making $18 an hour at GNC working part time before I went back to school
>>24724649
Argentina can't even keep up with the quality of universities in California, let alone the US, are you serious?
>>24723901
I heard some ivy leagues let you in for free if get in and your family is poor enough
>>24724724
Pic related
Yale, the most prestigious university in the nation
>>24724724
>Argentina can't even keep up with the quality of universities in California, let alone the US
b8 is b8, keep shitposting senpai
Also, enjoy your mass shootings because of ''muh freedom''. Hope someday you guys decide to implement a rigorous psychological test like we have before giving weapons to anyone breathing.
I have an awful job(no degree at 24 years old) and I'm on 29$ an hour... Jesus Christ, hope you get good benefits.
>>24724105
What trade? Pls respond
>>24724963
What the fuck do you do and how can I get into it without having any connections?
Are you american?
>>24724929
I wasn't insulting you, there is no country with better unis than the US, we have shitty public grade schools but our colleges are top notch.
>>24724979
I am American, although I am in Australia for business. I didn't have any connections.
I'm in software development, specifically consulting.
>>24725022
>software development
>no degree
nice meme pajeet
>>24723788
You copied my Thread from /pol, you double nigger. I'm the TexasBro making $12/hr at 18.
>>24725051
*tips menorah*
The american dream my friend, now get back to work, I need to take a vacation to the Bahamas this Hanukkah
And dont forget, its the Lazy neets fault that you only get 12 dollars an hour!
>>24725091
Whatever you say, although I still clock in for 40 Hours even though I'm actually there for like 1. Thanks, Dad. :^)
>tfw mcwageslave making 7.50 an hour
>>24724929
>Hope someday you guys decide to implement a rigorous psychological test like we have before giving weapons to anyone breathing
I really hate when people who know nothing about US gun laws tries to talk about them.. Also I really hope you enjoy your crime rates,
http://www.numbeo.com/crime/country_result.jsp?country=Argentina
I don't worry because crime rates in the US have been dropping for the past 30 years while having gun laws loosen.
http://time.com/3577026/crime-rates-drop-1970s/
Who /$20 an hour without a college degree at 20 years old/ here?
>tfw gonna make $50/h in 4 years time
op is making $96/day, or $23000/day
that's a fucking slav-tier peasant wage
>>24723788
$12/hr
wew laddie
wew
wew
wew
wew
Give me those 2 betabux you have.
>>24725202
pls tell me your secret
>all these normies making more than 30k a year
Fuck off
Only NEETS and poverty wageslaves allowed here
>$12/hr at only 22 years old
>only
To all the retards posting their salary ITT:
Don't you realize that these figures are meaningless unless you post where you are.
$20/hr is much different in bum fuck nowhere Alabama than it is in a 3rd would nation like Australia.
>>24725051
>tfw work in a liqour store earning $23 an hour and $32 on weekends as an average chum
Bloody hell you Amerilards are poor
>>24725230
>Ask my dad for a job at his company
>he says sure but I have to show up every day
Feels good man
>>24725230
Join a trade union
>be plumber
>no debt
>don't have to talk to people very much
>16 bucks an hour which is on the low end for plumbers, but I am able to live a happy comfy robot life
You guys should learn trades. It's satisfying work and finding a job is never hard.
>>24723922
This OP you triple nigger.
Unless you live in bumfuck Mississippi $12 an hour at 22 (even without any sort of post-secondary education) is nothing to brag about whatsoever.
>>24723788
HUR DUR ALL THIS DEBT
$50,000 is the cost of degree
$50,000+ is the salary a non-faglord degree will get you
Go live with mommy for another year rent free and have zero debt! Omg it's such bullshit right.
I fucking hate normies so much, I was cursed with the retardation and even I can see how simple it is, yeah sure SOME of them may not have home to stay at for a year but you know the majority do (esp. those bitching)
GOD DO I HATE MY FUCKING LIFE I WAS CURSED WITH THE RETARDATION BUT THE ABILTY TO SEE HOW RETARDED THE WORLD TRUELY IS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Australia is one of the most expensive places to study. Most go over seas for it because of the debt they'll have to pay back if they studied here.
>>24723788
Dude you make $12/hr at 22? I'm 20 with the very tiny beginnings of a CS degree and I make $11.50/hr... in a city where I pay $300/month for rent...
>>24725679
Then why do so many orientals come here to study?
>>24724976
>Pls respond
At the time, was non-union electrical apprentice working on a government-funded worksite. "Government-funded" (it was halfway housing or something) means it was a going-wage worksite, which in turn means that all workers must be paid union wages, whether they are actually union employees or not.
Unions, or at least IBEW (the electricians' union) exact flat fees, so that whether you're paid 21/hr or 210/hr you still pay $5-7/hr in union fees. I could go into the politics of what this funds and you probably don't care, but it means that when I'm working on a going-wage worksite as a non-union-member, I'm making a lot more than unionmen would be -- who, in turn, generally make more than non-unionmen on regular worksites.
I do a lot less going-wage stuff now, but it was nice at the time. I'm currently weighing the benefits of a highway-construction position I've been offered, it would be the same situation as far as being a non-unionman getting the full union wage with no union dues.
I wouldn't recommend electrician as a first trade if you have zero trade experience, if you seriously want to do trade (and have no problem with five eight-hour physical-workdays every week) I'd recommend finding a carpentry crew or something. It's not as soulless and backbreaking as masonry, in fact depending on the crew (residential is, in my experience, the one to get into as far as that trade goes) it's fairly light work 75% of the time -- heavy-lifting-wise, at least.
Trades and general construction are great work for robots. Complete autists fit right in on a jobsite where nobody's talking about anything non-work-related, and crews tend to be pretty conservative -- there's certainly never any SJW-ing in the workplace.
>>24725657
Also some facts checking
MEDIAN (note not mean/average which is a shit number) salary/yr of all college grads is $45,478, lowest is $36,237 for lib arts ~ source (http://time.com/money/3829776/heres-what-the-average-grad-makes-right-out-of-college/)
From collegedata.com "According to the College Board, the average cost of tuition and fees for the 2015-2016 school year was $32,405 at private colleges, $9,410 for state residents at public colleges, and $23,893 for out-
of-state residents attending public universities
>>24725249
I'm currently coasting on about $3000 until I get around to getting another job (left my old one), that's MAYBE two months in somewhere like Seattle and that's if you're pennypinching. I'm in a redneck town and I can go six months easy on that without feeling pinched.
It's definitely frustrating to hear people go "hurr $21/hr soooo rich lol," if they live in downtown San Francisco that's barely enough to surive but in other places (interior Southwest is generally cheap as dirt) you're living comfortably middle-class on that.
>>24725278
Hey tradebro, I was electrical apprentice for a while and I just quit a masonry job because I was tired of the boss and I have enough saved up to last a while.
Plumbing's the only trade I have next to zero experience in, tell me more. I'm assuming you're an apprentice, how's the work as far as backbreaking-vs.-comfy and what's the general professional atmosphere like?
>play video games, jerk off, exercise, enjoy life
>all while watching the economy collapse as machines and AI replace all the jobs (not in the future, literally happening at this very moment)
In a decade your education will be irrelevant. 80% of the current jobs will be automated. The only thing left will be how good looking and competent you are.
>>24723788
>live in glorious Europa
>go to university
>have zero debt
>>24723788
here's some shit
>>24725851
It's the easiest of all the trades judging by my bros in other trades. Very comfy, I'm an apprentice and my teacher is very nice and helpful. All of my co workers are humble hard working folks or stoners, the work is pretty simple and customers tend to just leave you alone until you're done. There is a lot of opportunity to be self employed too. I know one guy who worked for a company while also working on his own on the side, eventually he was able to leave the company and do what he wanted full time. The pay isn't amazing even when you are a master plumber, but it's certainly enough to live a comfortable life. If ya want the big bucks, start your own company.
>>24725906
>le rich people are bad meme
Dude....nice
>>24723788
You're part of the problem. 12 an hour isn't much at all even for 22.
>>24725906
>Americans not understanding the difference between conservative/progressive and being left (socialist)/right(liberal) economically
>on that note: Americans thinking that "liberal" means "progressive"
I somewhat agree with that post except for the part where he "can only get unpaid internships". If that's the case then he picked a shit major and wasted his money on a worthless degree.
>>24725729
A trade would be nice if I wasn't a fucking idiot.
I volunteered last week at something and I got like sad looks from people who realized I couldn't figure out how to tie up a corded vacuum properly.
I cried that night
I am 24 at the moment living in one of the most expensive cities in the world and I just bought a 2 bedroom apartment for $1.2million AUD off plan.
And I Started with NOTHING and NO support or help.
Making money is not fucking hard and finding a job is also not fucking hard. It's lazy people who cry and whine that don't get them and it's stupid as fuck people who assume just because you have a degree in X means you are entitled to a made up job of fairy dust.
>Moved to Australia at 18
>Work as a dish hand for 2 years
>Enrol in university
>Work my way up to restaurant manager while saving money, buying a car and studying full time
>at 22 I enter workforce related to my degree of Construction Management
>Continue to study part time now that I have a good which I can learn much more from
>Now 24, Earning 80k salary + 10k for petrol as a project manager for construction remediation company
>Still 2 years to go and the owner wants to offer me a partnership once I graduate in 2-3 years
>Have just paid the 10% for off the plan $1.2mill apartment due for completion next year
And I fucking did this WITH NO HELP. All on own.
You just have to start working any dam shitty job to fully understand what a real job is and how hard you need to work in order to be successful.
I had no experience in construction but due to my history of working hard and doing it all myself my employer gave me a chance.
He said I could have a degree in fag fucking (Hes a Serbian, I don't get the humour) but due to my effort I have shown he believes I earned the right for a trial.
You need to earn a job. Not do shit all and expect someone to give you one.
>>24723788
>bragging about 12/hr
There are plenty of service jobs that pay upwards of $15/hr. If you're not going to college at least get a job that doesn't pay you manager tier wage.
Look into moving shit, as long as you aren't a string bean/grossly out of shape you can pull 15 or more
>>24725982
Exactly how are the rich not the scum of the Earth?
>>24725856
>80% of the current jobs will be automated
Top kek, the only reason most women are employed is because the store figured that an employee and a machine were about the same price but the employee would prevent them being sued.
Perhaps in the future, businesses will have AA-type incentives not just for minorities and imaginary-minorities like women, but for anyone. Not dragging wageslaves through a 40-hour workweek perhaps, but maybe something like offering NEETs a significant bonus on their NEETbux for working 10 or more hours a week. It would at least open the door to new careers making real money in a real economy for some of the more inspired workers, perhaps enough to keep our human workforce at the levels it needs to be to keep a nation running even in a theoretical 95%-automated economy.
>>24725278
how are your hours?
>tfw only $20/hr at 27 with a Bachelors
>third year Civil Engineering student
>c- average
>fuck cute girls on tinder every week
>last summer I had an internship making 24$ an hour at the company my dad works at
>literally never had a job before this, not even a minimum wage dishwashing job
>mfw my first job made more than what took you 8 years to get
Get fucked redneck scum
>>24725936
>my teacher is very nice and helpful
You mean your journeyman, or are you in actual classes? Do you do the service work that earns you folk all those clever nicknames about feces-touching, or remodel/construction?
I hear you on the money, I'm in a cheap-as-balls 'city' and lived comfortably on part-time minimum wage for a year. ~16/h, especially fulltime, is fine by me for now. Ambition can come later, I'm in my twenties, I still don't know what I want to do when I'm in my 40s.
>millennials are so entitled!!!! just work harder!!!
>so lazy!!!
>>24726113
I'm an apprentice working with a company so 8-10 hours. You can be self employed and make your own hours though. I don't mind the hours cause the work is pretty light and not soul crushing.
>>24725679
but it's not real debt.
why would i give a fuck about paying hex if i'm making above the threshold anyway?
>>24726203
Liberal pls go
If being rich is so easy, why dont you just own your own business?
I made 15 an hour when I was 16 working for a pest control company during the summers. Op is serious about his shit job isn't he?
>got paid to get my Bachelor's
>nobody ever replies because it doesn't fit their happy assuming narrative that all undergrads face tons of debt
>be me
>be actually intelligent, work in schools lab nonstop.
>work as a waiter during the weekends, work as a bartender at the side line club during football games.
>volunteer at hospital
>get S C H O L A R S H I P S
>GET G O O D G R A D E S
Tfw only 5k in debt, graduating with my bachelors and got accepted into PA school
>>24726038
>A trade would be nice if I wasn't a fucking idiot
If you really mean that, look into masonry and highway-work (both almost always hiring somewhere) jobs. You'll work your ass off, but you'll have to use your brain only a little bit more than your average liberal arts student. It might take three weeks to build the walls of one house, and those entire three weeks you're doing exactly the same thing; picking up bricks and putting them in front of the last brick you moved.
Plus, some masons make bank. On the West Coast at least, even 'lower' tradesmen like masons and unskilled ditch-diggers make enough to live middle-class lifestyles with a house and nice cars by the time they have kids.
Who /InDebtAndNotEverGunnaPayIt/ here?
>>24726262
I finished my bachelors of nursing at about 6k debt. It was pretty damn easy to pay back
>>24726268
i'd rather be on welfare than work my ass off just to live middle class. i dont need anything fancy in my life. all i need is internet and food.
>>24726203
That graph doesn't mean anything if it doesn't tell you how it's measured, much like the "wage gap" graphs that don't take into account the fact that most higher earners are in a household with a wife, and thus a woman essentially shares that income with them.
If it takes children under 18 into account, for instance, then the bottom 10% is essentially meaningless since I'm pretty sure even Bill Gates' kids were in that bracket when they were six. Additionally, whether or not it takes charitable donations into account is another huge issue -- I could be off on the numbers, but I believe Bill Gates donates somewhere between 80 and 95% of his income to charity -- which doesn't just make his effective "distribution" smaller, but effectively increases the bottom's "distribution."
Charts that don't go into detail about how their numbers were obtained don't mean shit and belong on Tumblr.
>>24726326
Be a dishwasher then. You work a 5 hour shift and just wash dishes. Ya don't have to talk to anybody, you can come to work hammered as fuck, and at most restaurants you get a cut of the tips. source: been a dishwasher for 13 years, have a studio apartment with video games and drugs
>>24725259
Do you understand cost of living at all?
>>24726229
>If something requires effort it must be good
Also, what the fuck effort did Steve Jobs put in? The rich are some of the laziest bastards in the cosmos. You realize that being successfully evil requires effort too, right? I will never understand how wealth as a measure of a person's worth without any consideration of that person's personality or morals ever became a thing.
>>24725682
300 a month for rent is nothing and you're an asshole for bringing that up.
>>24726419
Yes, because 4chan is the place where we only post quality content with citations and research to back up all of our claims!
This is r9k people, we have standards! Take your shit-posts to tumblr!
>>24726456
He fucking invented the GUI and non DOS operating systems you fucking entitled little shit
>>24726434
no thanks i choose welfare. my whole street is on welfare.
>>24726326
>he doesn't understand a tradesman's pride
Also,
>if I wasn't retarded I'd be a tradesman
>ugh I don't want to actually work tho :((((
People like you are why construction wages are so high.
Unrelated note, but I like this trend at least in the field of construction, because it lets the hardworking illegal/quasi-legal immigrants contribute to society and make something of themselves so their kids don't have to deal drugs, while weeding out the shit legal-citizens who would not even make America great again if given the chance. I've met some truly amazing immigrants in construction, and don't feel threatened by them at all -- even with immigration, the trades are still crazy lucrative because Americans just aren't raised with hardworking ideals anymore.
>>24725259
>$23 an hour
>poor
>in America
fucking retard
>>24725682
>>24726502
>tfw 500 a month to rent a fucking ROOM in a house I share with 4 others in a college town
>>24725729
Why do you think electrician isn't a good first trade? I'm set on becoming a union electrician. I even stopped smoking marijuana.
>>24726044
Let me guess. You're white.
>>24726503
>This is r9k people, we have standards!
Top kek, this is the only board with universally-enforced standards in that it's the only board that automatically prevents anyone from breaking its only rule.
But I do mean that when gaylords bring up gay graphs, rather than an "omg tHIS!!121" wankfest they're exposed to criticism and differing opinions. Being called a faggot on a regular basis is an essential part of being heterosexual in a civilized society.
>>24726533
Jesus christ you're getting keked. I live in Atlanta and have a 2 bedroom for 550 a month.
>>24726044
>Moved to Australia at 18
> WITH NO HELP. All on own.
lol I bet you think your education was "free"
Fucking libkek
>>24726520
you're such a good man! selling your life just so you can say you work!
do you really think i give a fuck what people think of me? i sit inside all day, it doesn't matter what you say. i have already won.
>>24726562
I am.
I moved from America because my single mother could not afford to support me past highschool which was fine.
I had saved $5k from highschool odd jobs and used that to start over here.
I might add I am also an Australian citizen so I don't have to pay absurd fees for school which I wanted to avoid if I stayed in America
>>24726645
You being white in America means you were favored. You didn't work for anything.
>>24726632
At least i contribute to society you fucking piece of shit
>>24726517
>my whole street is on welfare
is it true what they say about black men?
>>24726534
>Why do you think electrician isn't a good first trade? I'm set on becoming a union electrician.
It's not impossible, but if you don't have experience, it's an awful lot to grasp. ESPECIALLY if you want to go union -- that's a horrible choice imho for people who don't know shit (no offense, we've all been there at one point) about construction. Renovation work's even worse, you're on a tight schedule and a tighter budget with no room for "how the fuck do I even do this."
Doing another trade doesn't mean you can't go union-electrician (IBEW, if burger) eventually. That's what i'd recommend, I wish I'd've done another trade first.
>I even stopped blazing four hundred and one score
I'm responding anyway even if you're trying to rustle my jimmies in case anyone else in this thread cares what I have to say.
>>24726632
Tell me all about that $1600/week paycheck your NEETbux are giving you, and that muscular body and clear mind that shitposting all day grants you.
Laughing out loud to be honest my friend, for I choose to do this work because I enjoy it.
>>24726686
>if burger
You're German?
>>24726681
I'll take the bait.
I did all this work in Australia not America.
>>24726751
Nah. Australia isn't immune to favoring white people.
>>24726509
Like hell he did. I exorcise you, evil spirit of Steve Jobs! Back to hell foul spirit!
>>24726745
That's a burgher, or in more socially-acceptable terms, a Hitler.
Hitlerland is one of the few places in the world that I've both never visited AND actually want to visit.
>>24726743
I dont have that option
My option is work at McDonalds or similar full time for 300$ a week, or be NEET and make the same money
its not a tough choice
>>24726803
No it's actually hamburg. Try and keep up.
>>24726686
IBEW drug tests like heck so I quit. My dad knows some basic electrical from when he was in the army in 'Nam, but I know nothing. I got the idea plenty of people joined the union without knowing anything.
What about non-union?
>>24723788
>tfw upper class family
>tfw so much money from mommy
>tfw free uni with $800 a month student grants
>mfw when im done i leave the country
>mfw when i have children i move back for some years so they can learn the language and so they get free health care and uni aswell
You americans are so fucking keked desu desu senpai senpai :3 :3
>>24726868
You have a good life and yet obsess about Americans? Wow. America just dominates.
>>24723788
in the mid 1900s the high school diploma was optional because you could get a decent labor job without it. but the HSD basically guaranteed you a great job and enough money to support your whole family single handedly.
now a days a HSD will barely get you a job at mcd or manual labor. todays equivalent is the college degree which costs 10s of thousands of dollars.
even the college degree is becoming over saturated though and in the future you will probably need a phd in sanitation management or some shit in order to get a minimum wage dish washing job.
we're fucked unless we invent robots to do literally everything for us and change over to a complete liesure society with no wage slavery
>>24726792
Alright mate
White genocide already activated in Australia
Indian manlet detected
I left you behind washing dishes a long time ago. I guess you didn't take my advice and have a higher goal.
>>24726929
I'm white actually. I'm just not stupid enough to ignore the obvious. Whites get favored. You know it. I know it. Relax.
>>24726904
>thread about american tuition
>You have a good life and yet obsess about Americans? Wow. America just dominates.
The americakek again :^)
>>24726925
Yes the high school diploma granted that due to the job market. Learn your history.
>>24726262
>scholarships
>good grades
welp i graduated high school and am moving to a college with a 2.9 gpa. i already fucked my shit up and cant even apply for most scholarships since im under 3.0 - 3.2. if i could go back and do it all over again i would
also
>work work work
nice wage slavery how do you even find time for fun
>>24726967
What are you even trying to say? I talked about what you consider a better life? I never disagreed.
Are you brain dead?
>>24726812
>I dont have that option
>My option is work at McDonalds
You honestly don't understand the concept of working to build a resume? Also, most general-labor places will pay anyone over 18 who can swing a hammer or pick up a shovel at least $12/hr, then bam just don't get your retarded ass fired within two months and you've established that you can put in a workday without whining about your vagina. Now you're ready to apply to places like that.
>>24726851
>IBEW drug tests like heck so I quit
Wouldn't know about that, I've never been tested for all the non-union (even working on government sites) stuff I've done. Hell, some of my coworkers have fourtwenty-blazed on-site a couple times (not often, but still, it's happened, and alcohol on-site is routine.)
Like I keep saying, non-union work in general is pretty easy to get into, and once you've got 6-12 months of that under your belt, you probably have enough labor experience for anyone offering a full apprenticeship to take your application seriously. But hey, you don't *need* that other labor, it's always possible to go straight into electrical.
If you're "going straight in," I'd absolutely recommend getting in with a larger company and being prepared to shovel all day. Don't worry, you're still building "electrical apprentice" hours that count towards certification, but between the size of the crew and the relative unskilled nature of the new-guy tasks, you're a lot less likely to be fired than if a small crew hires you and finds out the hard way you don't know the first thing about laying underground conduit. (First day on the job, I heard "underground work" and thought we'd be in a tunnel, turns out it means you're just laying stuff down on dirt before piling more dirt on top of it, generally in preparation for a concrete slab to be poured on top of the whole thing.)
>>24726988
Mr Goldberg has fun fucking 3000 a night hookers on his yacht for me
Im not lazy, I ENJOY working for him
>>24726970
my point is still valid. to get a GOOD paying job that can support an entire family you need an advanced degree and at least 40 grand at a young age.
>>24726954
Alright Rajghat
>>24727001
>never talked about america in my original post
>What are you even trying to say? I talked about what you consider a better life? I never disagreed.
>srs damage control
Brah relax its anonymous
>>24727013
how do you enjoy it? every day i have to go to work i start freaking out knowing im gonna be stuck there for 8 hours doing shit i really don't enjoy what so ever and wishing i was home doing thing i want to do
I didn't go to college and have been working in warehouses because that's all I could get
My life is shit, I hate my job, and its never going to get better. I'm going to college for CS next year because I want out of this garbage life.
>>24727020
But you don't. I don't have an advanced degree and earn more. I worked smart. But of course you simply hate anerica and are mad.
>>24726613
Well, I have to finance my move all by myself to a different country.
Support myself all alone with no family or connections
Enrol myself into university and ge the required entrance scores
Had to motivate myself and pressure myself to continue my studies while working full time hours.
Moving overseas at 18 is not as easy as it sounds when you need to fund it yourself and survive by yourself
>>24727025
My names James. Oh let me guess? You're upset.
>>24727042
You also jumped into a conversation that didn't involve you. Calm down.
>>24727092
Is it true that if one of the kangaroos in your yard gets an erection, the first to observe it is legally required to suck off the kangaroo to completion if it can't find a female kangaroo to fuck within a certain period of time, which varies according to local codes?
>>24727096
You mean Jaamil
>>24727092
Your education was free. Don't think you had it hard.
>>24727113You responded to my post mr autism
>>24723922
>mfw i could be making 15/hr starting next week
its driving a bus, but that shit tops out at like more than 35 an hour in like 10 years
my dad knew a guy that retired with a 3 million dollar pension, driving a fuckin bus
its my last resort if nothing else pans out for me
>>24727138
Nice try New Zealand
Can't reverse sheep shagger bantz on us
>>24723788
>$12/hr
That's not very impressive at all.
>>24727174
Shhh. Calm down.
>>24727074
How much do you earn and how did you do it?
>>24726509
Steve Jobs didn't code shit.
>>24727173
>Australian University
>Free
Good joke
Tell me why it was not hard then?
We will go ahead and count HECS fees as free when it's taking out loans.
>>24726262
that's cool. i graduated with a 3.8 GPA and got $0 in scholarships. also got accepted to a private US MD school but dropped out after a semester.
You would have a hard time making a living in a studio apartment at $12/hour in almost anywhere on the west coast. It's pretty much impossible where I live. I make nearly 11/hour, as does my girlfriend, and with both of our incomes combined we would still struggle.
>>24727236
$53 an hour to fix old jukeboxes. I filled a niche market. I worked smart. And where I live they have a lot of 50s restaurants that have been opening up for 10 years.
>>24727241
Your fault for getting "educated" in a shit country.
>>24727182
>he thinks I'm from some freedom-hating Commie shithole
Burgerland is number one at everything, pinko kangaroonigger, and that includes fucking livestock. Stars and stripes, bitches.
>>24727177
Your cost of living is highe AND your money is worth less. It's always weird how aussies don't get that.
>>24727342
So you were so pathetic that you searched sheep sex statistics in another country?
>>24725729
Of course there wouldn't be SJWs. They only care about cushy government or artistic jobs with massive diversity quotas.
Learning a trade sounds like sweet deal to me. But I am morbidly obese and can't do a single push-up properly. I know I can change if I decide to even though I never will, and honestly that's the worst part.
>tfw the op pic is at MSU
>tfw I go there
>tfw know the azn kid
>>24723788
>12/h
>American economy
>tfw on 26/h and do nothing
I'm getting a full paid scholarship with meals and housing included plus a $1500 a semester stipend. This is in Louisiana with only a slightly above average ACT
>>24727417
>won't name the country
C
U
C
K
>>24727448
I'm a millionaire because I invested in panera bread.
>>24727386
I'm actually burger, West Coast and a couple of my highschool acquiantances go there, so I remember it being in the news.
>>24727402
>I know I can change if I decide to even though I never will
That really is the worst part. I'm like that about a lot of things, thankfully super-fast metabolism so getting fat has never been an issue of mine. Your waifu would want you to get in shape, though, anon.
>>24723788
>be me
>be 19
>make 19/hr being a sys admin
>>24726419
most of these, including the video where that image came from (iirc), are based off of household income.
>>24727693
Dude I respect what you're saying, but if you're trying to make an argument, "These numbers are based on this, which was a totally accurate survey because I said so, just trust me here" isn't how to do it on any website without a blue background.
I'm not even arguing against what you're saying, I'm just telling you that saying "No it's true, believe me" isn't giving any more sources than the original image was. Which means that you're not going to change anyone's mind, because if they didn't believe it before, "trust me it's true" won't make them start believing. I've seen well-sourced and official graphs that look more-or-less like that, but that isn't one of them so it can't be held in the same regard.
Besides, even "household income" needs to be clarified. Do a rich household of eight and a poor household of two both count as "one household," for instance, because that's another factor that might change the shape of the graph. For that matter, household age is relevant as well, generally speaking a household of a childless or empty-nest 55yo couple will have a lot more to throw around than a household of two 19 year olds who just had twins. My dad, for instance, makes (as of January this year) just barely over six figures, but when he was my age (24) his income was probably not very much above that magical "poverty line" the government draws.
>>24723788
Or get scholarships. I have friends who pay literally nothing at college, not even housing. If you stop being a fuck up in high school, you won't be paying much.
>>24724413
>marketing
Major in STEM while working two jobs at a real school and then talk kiddo
>>24723788
>i make 12 an hour at 22
I made that at my second job. Holy fucking wagekeks. Why are you so proud of that?
>>24725787
the UC schools charge about 20k in tuition now, with 10k in living fees. Even public universities are costing about 30k to attend.
Making 45k/yr means you're taking home around 33k or so. If you have 100k in loans (from 4 years of college assuming you got some scholarship) at the very least that will take 3 years to pay back, and that's if you literally don't spend anything. Not everyone has the luxury of living with their parents, and even the ones who do- some parents will charge rent.
The cheapest you can possibly rent for a single bedroom (shared apartment) in my city is around 1000. Factor into car, phone, food, electricity, internet, misc items and you'll be spending at least another 500-600 or so. You're lucky if you're able to contribute even half of your 33k take-home income to your loans.
At that speed it will take you around 7-9 years depending on the interest rate of your loans. You'll litterally be 30 by the time you're done paying back your loans. Of course, your salary will increase, but dont you need to buy a new computer, new clothes, a new car, a house?
Its fucking insane how much the US charges for education
>>24723788
It's easy to go to CC while having a job they just don't want to.
>>24723788
>>HURRR GETTIN A JOB IS 2 HARD
It is when overqualified indians invade your fucking country and apply by the hundreds to every min wage position.
>>24723788
>Got a tuition waiver because my dad was in the military
>stayed at home
2 degrees (B.S. and almost done with M.S.) and I paid $0, the same amount of fucks I give about the kids that want to further dillute what a college education means.
>graduated from HS with 4.2 GPA
>got no scholarships but then again, didn't apply for any
>parents pay for entire tuition because they are well off financially but thats basically the only good parenting thing they did for me
>worked part time throughout school to pay for rent and everything else besides tuition
>graduate with mediocre GPA because complete loser
>work job paying $15/hr thats supposed to be a bridge job between undergrad and grad school but grades likely too poor to get into school, too afraid to even apply
>see no reason to do more schooling because im going to be a worthless miserable piece of shit no matter what
>have no clue what to do now
sigh
>>24723788
I earned $12/hr my second job at 19 years old at fucking Target you pleb.
>>24726502
That was the point, I pay almost nothing and make about what OP makes.
Shitting on college grads won't make you feel better
>>24728063
>meme degree
Alright, bud.
>>24729707
I make more without a degree. Shitting on you does make me feel better.
>$12/hr
>22 years old
I was making at least $30/hr referring soccer games when I was fucking 13 years old, you fucking faggot. Get over yourself.
Just dont be born in a shitty thirdworld country. I Pay 300 euros per semester and get a bus ticket which nearly costs as much and i would buy anyway.
>>24727174
played like a fiddle
amazing how easy it is sometimes
