Do we all agree that real rape (not just getting drunk or regretting it the morning after) is a very serious crime, perhaps 2nd only to murder and is deserving of the death penalty?
>>24639856
No I'd much rather be raped than tortured. Rape isn't even that bad we're just conditioned by people making it seem like some huge thing when really it's not even that bad.
>>24639856
I think the same though I think gelding as punishment is much more appropriate.
But than then all women are getting more power over man.
Real rape, and not the feminist redefinition of it, should indeed be punished by death. And this is from someone who hates women more than 90% of this board.
What's exactly so bad about rape?
I mean matured man to matured woman rape, what's exactly so bad?
>>24639990
Admittedly that's less sever than raping a virgin, but it's still traumatising and life ruining.
There is no good reason to have a death penalty.
It depends on who does it to whom.
An ugly man raping a beautiful woman, thereby cursing her to have an abortion or carry an inferior baby for 9 months and possibly having to raise it is indeed a crime.
A handsome man raping an ugly girl is an upgrade of her genetics and she should be thankful for being raped. Thankful for this godlike creature descending to her level and blessing her offspring with better genetics than she could have ever hoped to find elsewhere.
Ugly man raping ugly woman is irrelevant. If anything, both useless uggos and their bastard child should be euthanized under the Genetic Hygiene Act.
>>24640326
Killing undesirables is a very efficient means to create a homogenous society with a common goal. To me that's an excellent reason.
>rape is punishable by death
>women can concent to death, then change their mind mid-orgasm and claim rape, like that slut pornstar is right now
Yeah, we shouldnt be executing people just because women tell us to kill them.
No its coming from a fedora whiteknight who got rejected by alexa, began to "hate" women as a result and now believe that you're some sort of uber misogynist.
>>24639856
It should be of the same degree of severity as small beating
because harm to health is minimal
>>24640326
So you believe that there's no case where killing is the best option at your disposal?
If we're just talking about a death penalty for breaking laws, what else are we supposed to do with killers and general evil people? Leave them in a cell and give them pretty much everything they need to live a comfortable life with no stress?
>>24640535
Forced labor, so they can repay their denbt to the victims of their crimes.
Corporal punishment is also an option.
Locking people up for years without anything to do is pointless and ineffective as high rates of recidivism prove.
>>24640535
>Jail
>Comfortable life with no stress
Do you seriously believe this, pham?
>>24640387
This robot knows it.
Classism 4 life.
>>24640626
Well, that is how it is in Europe and most low-security prisons.
>>24640503
unless the rapist has diseases
>Implicating some people don't deserve to die
>>24640387
How do autists like you even become reality?
>muh genetics
>genetics genetics
No one fucking cares about genetics. Clearly your own are not too good, to create such a sperg.
Yes. It is a disgusting crime when committed on innocent people. However, like murder, some people do deserve it.
I dont see why it's such a big deal if someone puts his penis inside of you. Specially if you like dicks. As a straight man, getting raped must be pretty traumatic but it's not close to child abuse, murder or robbery.
>>24639856
No, murder and torture are significantly worse
I don't support the death penalty at all either
>>24639856
>deserving of the death penalty?
No.
>Implying it is ever possible to 100% reliably tell the difference between "real" and "fake" rape.
Virtually all convictions are based on somebody's fallible opinion.
If you support the death penalty, you literally believe that it's okay to accidentally kill innocent people, and you are a fucking piece of shit.
Even harsh prison sentences suffer the same flaws, and the focus should be on tagging and monitoring rather than imprisonment if there is not 100% proof (i.e. not just some guy's word) of a violent crime.
>>24641376
>Yes.
>However, like murder, some people do deserve it.
Ahahaha the level of unironic retardation in some of you is awful. You are everything that is wrong with the world.
>having sex is as bad as murder
Sod off m8
>2nd only to murder
That's arguable. At least a murder victim doesn't have to suffer for decades to come, unlike a rape victim.
>>24639909
Agree. I'd also rather be killed if the torture is really bad.
Rape only has meaning in a society where chaste women have any value. Now? I don't really give a shit about rape, since the woman was likely a whore anyway. Back when being a virgin would actually affect your marriage? Then yes, rape would be a serious offense maybe even punishable by death.
>>24640625
Forced labor like Stalin's gulags or the prison labor in the US in the early 20th Century?
No we don't all agree
>>24639856
too many feminist crying false rape for death penalty or castration, few years in prison if it's just one rape, 10-20 years if multiple rapes.
Don't believe in the death penalty. It's vulgar, primitive, and something we should have long surpassed around the globe (in the non-ape territories, at the least). You can unlock a prison door but you can't un-murder somebody after a death sentence has been carried out and new evidence bubbles up to the surface.
>>24640535
People in isolation is prisons would want death
>>24641717
Nah, soft cunts that would rather keep criminals alive in hotel like prisons are worse. An innocent death here and there is an unfortunate, but acceptable side effect.
>>24639856
when women get convicted of rape in the same way men do with the same sentences maybe but that won't happen
>>24639856
Murder is the only crime that warrants a penalty of death, for very obvious reasons.
Real force-yourself-on-a-woman rape is akin to torture, and deserves a penalty in line with torture. Definitely 15+ years in incarceration at least.
>>24639856
>deserving of the death penalty
Absolutely not. Jesus christ are you afflicted by the same mental disorder that affects feminists and SJWs?
It is indeed traumatising, yes. But after any physical damage (that may or may not be done to any serious extent) heals, the victim can go on with life as they please. Their heart beats, their brain sparks. Oh, they may be traumatised, yes, but other people - myself included - have faced severely traumatic events, and we crack on.
Just think how serious it is to end a human life for a second. It cannot possibly be justified especially when the person in question is not responsible for that crime (murder) themselves.
>>24639990
Taking away a woman's right to reject and shame you is very caveman. Modern women have all the sexual power as it should be.
If they can't reject you sexually, then that makes them no more important than a common house plant
>>24639856
Not even murder deserves the death penalty in modern country desu.
>>24639856
>rape
>death penalty
Hell no. The rapist didn't killed anybody.
>>24644025
Rape is a savage and sadistic crime that is performed by only the lowest scum on earth. I'd rather people like that not exist.
Nah. It's just putting something that's meant to be in a hole into someone's hole. It's literally the same thing as harmlessly poking a person but with a risk of disease. If the "victim" isn't a virgin it shouldn't even be a crime.
torture and long term kidnapping are worse, also I don't think rape should be punishable by death.
i don't make light of it at all though.
i'd probably rather get raped than get the complete shit kicked out of me with severe injuries, but I guess that is just a fast form of torture.
>>24639856
Global torture > Genocide > individual torture > murder > Heavy crippling > killing his family in front of him > steal one of his organ > rape
>>24642407
Yeah, some LWOP prisoners ask for their sentence to be transmuted to death because they hate it so much
>>24644497
>killing his family in front of him
>before murder
I don't understand
>>24640626
Yes. My mom has worked in different county jails. The inmates just sit around all day watching TV/movies and playing cards or dominoes. For an hour they get to work out and play basketball. There were a few fights every now and then but if you aren't being a little shit nobody will mess with you. You might not get many luxuries but you're taken care of and don't have to worry about anything.
>>24644538
Once you're dead, it's over.
BTW, I'm against any kind of death sentence, I prefer the hard labour gulag style
>>24644341
I think rape is often seen as worse than than like physical assault because the trauma is usually more complex and thus harder to process and deal with.
Obviously it will differ person to person, but I have been raped and severely beaten up (on different occasions). The rape came with no physical injuries, other than vaginal ones, and the beating had 6 broken bones and i was pretty much black and blue all over with the bruising (lost a good few teeth too). I would take the beating again over the rape for sure.
>>24639856
it is literally just discomfort for a couple of minutes + the victim feels sad afterwards. It is not even remotely comparable to murder
>>24644626
What kind of shithole you live in to be beaten that violently and raped?
Is there any designated shitting street near your place ?
>woman has given up her pussy to hundreds of guys already
>one guy thrusts in it for a few seconds without permission
>2nd only to murder
top kek
The ONLY punishment for "real" violent, life-threatening rape in cold blood should be more rape. For drunken slut rape, there should be a "You're both fucking stupid" option the judge can take which fines both parties if the jury doesn't rule in either favor due to clear dishonesty.
>>24644628
But she will lose the ability to pair bond, it could damage a marriage, and a family
>>24639969
>someone who hates women more than 90% of this board.
Nice try reddit. fgfg
>>24644714
OP here, of course that is one scenario where rape is basically insignificant. I'm talking about rape of virgins mostly.
>>24644690
Nah I live in a pretty safe area actually, neither of them were in my city. In the city i grew up in and only moved out of last week, i was never even threatened once! Rape: got separated from friends in a huge crowd and got lost, some random grabbed me and pulled me into back alley. Beating: walking with friend, only people on street other than this guy who doubles over and collapses - we think he's ill so rush to help him, turns out he's really fucking high and goes nuts on us. He told police that he thought we were running to him because we were going to attack him or something so went on the offensive first.
What if you murder someone who was trying to rape you? Would it be feasible to just say "Hey, whatever, he won't be missed"?
Rape is MAYBE comparable to getting punched in the face and even that's pushing it.
What if the rape was in self-defense?
>>24644829
it would probably be self-defense because you don't know for certain how violent the rapist can get
>>24644626
thank you for the perspective, i'm sorry you had to go through all of that though
maybe my fear of severe injuries over rape is a male thing
>>24644894
Top kek
>>24644827
>Beating: walking with friend, only people on street other than this guy who doubles over and collapses - we think he's ill so rush to help him, turns out he's really fucking high and goes nuts on us.
Wut?
And your friends stayed there and watched you get beaten down?
>>24645034
Huh? No it was only one friend i was with, the guy punched him in the head first, and he went down and slammed his skull on the pavement (he has brain damage from it, minor but still) and was out cold. Then the high guy grabbed my arm with one hand and repeatedly punched me in the face with the other. I was kind of half conscious and on the floor after that point still trying to struggle so he kept beating me. I probably should have played dead but its hard to think clearly in that situation.
>>24644916
Thanks. Yeah possibly, a guy once said to me something like "youre lucky youre female, all you need to worry about on a night out is getting raped rather than beaten up" (very strange thing to say to someone, on a first date no less, and also disregards that a fair amount of rapes are also violent). But yeah I think growing up as a girl you are sort of made to expect that you'll get raped at some point, the victim-blamey stuff like blaming clothing kind of adds to that too. Obviously in reality it happens to guys, and I think it may be harder for some men to deal with being raped than females since theres a whole lot of masculinity and power issues mixed up in that too (although i cant say for sure/prove that), and because its harder to be taken seriously/get help. So yeah i think it is probably to do with the fact that it maybe seems a lot more likely to you that youll get beaten up rather than raped
>rape
>death penalty
maybe if you gave them a horrible disease. otherwise i'd say 10 years is good.
>>24640425
>homogenous society with a common goal
You mean an stagnant society which gradually decays as the enviroment it originally thrived on and was created for slowly fades out of existence.
