>Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.
How does reading this make you feel?
>>24633830
>We're consumers. We are the byproducts of a lifestyle obsession. Murder, crime, poverty, these things don't concern me. What concerns me are celebrity magazines, television with 500 channels, some guy's name on my underwear. Rogaine, Viagra, Olestra.
it makes me feel like ur a 16 year old from reddit.
>>24633830
>>24633841
>>24633843
>implying this all isn't true
>>24633830
>How does reading this make you feel?
hungry
>>24633830
>How does reading this make you feel?
sleepy
>>24633830
>How does reading this make you feel?
Thirsty
>How does reading this make you feel?
It makes me feel like a female locked in male body
>>24633830
Do you know you're an ad?
I just want to eat and go to sleep
Fight club is literally philosophy and communism 101 for dummies. If you enjoy you're a pretentious retard.
All advertising does (unless you are stupid) is make you realize that such products exist. Whether or not you need them you can decide for yourself and you don't need to buy into what those stupid ads tell you.
But then again companies are betting millions that enough people are stupid enough to be driven by that.
>>24633830
>We have no Great War. No Great Depression.
Damn it really sucks that people aren't dieing in pointless wars or starving in the street, what a damn shame.
>>24633843
this is quite true t b h
I cant get a job
The things I want don't have ads
Interesting stuff is currently going on around the world
The "Great Rescission" sucked/sucks and I know the Great Depression was MUCH worse. Who would long for some bullshit like wars and economic meltdown? Just because you personally feel like shit does not mean that the whole world has to feel like shit too.
Whoever wrote this has no perspective.
>>24633830
Simplicity at its finest.
>>24633830
> We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives.
Wah!!! Wah!!! We don't suffer so nobody in the future is going to remember us for it! Curse this non hardship lifestyle! Having the ability to have money and buy luxuries is just the worst!
>>24634531
>Wah!!! Wah!!!
Are you a fucking tumblrite?
You could easily read this as saying "we aren't living through a unique epoch defined by struggle or challenge" or something like that. I don't see how it's necessarily saying that the Great War or the Great Depression were good things in themselves.
Like a hack writing faggot with no understanding of history of human nature
>>24634597
Learn some reading comprehension faggot. It's clear to see from the juxtaposition of OP's pic and text that he is using it as an excuse to feel bad.
>>24634597
OP sounds like a faggy whiny bitch. His dumb pretentious rantings are open for interpretation and that is how I interpreted it.
>>24634670
>>24634673
You guys really don't recognise that the quote is from Fight Club?
The context of what he's saying doesn't indicate a desire or glorification for those things (the Great War or Great Depression), it's just talking about what I said... the lack of any major challenging circumstances.
It's not about being remembered or saying that freedom from war and freedom from poverty are bad things.
>>24634707
>lack of any major challenging circumstances.
Move to the 3rd world if you want "challenging circumstances" and tell everyone all the goat herders and factory slaves about how superior their lives are
>>24633830
Makes me feel like we should all meet up and kick the shit out of each other as a way to reclaim our masculinity.
>>24633830
None of you actually disagree with this quote, seeing as you're the ones that have to live through what Durden is describing. You just want to mock so it doesn't seem like you admire anything from Fight Club, a film which produces SO MUCH BUTTHURT that even on the chanz, people have to pretend they hate it to fit in.
Ironic, and pathetic.
I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, this accretion of sensory experience and feelings, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is to deny our programming. Stop reproducing. Walk hand in hand into extinction. One last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
>>24634735
First of all, I'm not necessarily agreeing with the author of Fight Club, I'm arguing over what he actually said and meant.
>Move to the 3rd world if you want "challenging circumstances" and tell everyone all the goat herders and factory slaves about how superior their lives are
Obviously I'm not going to make that choice, but isn't that part of the issue? People will opt for luxury and safety, especially when they're born into those circumstances. The question is, is it the right thing? Does it bring out the best in me? If the wealth of my nation is founded on exploitation (i'm just speaking hypothetically) of lower class labourers and factory slaves, then isn't my complacency and laziness, my inability to throw off that luxury - a bad thing?
>>24634842
No?
Main goals in life are survival and reproduction. To deny survival because of philosophical BS is dumb.
>>24634842
>is it the right thing?
Now we're getting into subjective territory
But answer that question with a question.
Is it wrong to enjoy a good life? A life free of war, poverty, and want?
>Does it bring out the best in me?
That's for you to decide
>isn't my complacency and laziness, my inability to throw off that luxury - a bad thing?
Subjective. But consider that before the "exploitation" you speak of people had even worse lives of substinence farming and other difficult pursuits. Given the choice between wageslaving for wealthier nations and being crushed to death in a mine or spending 13 hours a day doing backbreaking farmwork most people will choose the former.
>>24634891
>>24634927
You guys are missing my point. I'm not trying to genuinely pose these questions as much as point out that what the author of Fight Club is saying with those lines has actual merit. By responding to my questions with your own opinions and theories, you're validating this point.
When Tyler Durden gives this little speech, you're supposed to see him as an individual 'selling' an idea about the world (he's a 'soap salesman' after all, and a cult leader. The author deliberately intends that his speech be seen as somewhat 'edgy' in a juvenile way, but it's also supposed to resonate somewhat.
All the time on this board I see people saying this, that they wish there was some great conflict, or some war, or "happening" that would force them into an 'authentic' response to the world. This is the feeling Tyler Durden is supposed to be getting at.
He's not advocating war or poverty or saying the world was better then.
>>24633830
>No Great Depression
our lives are the great depression 2bh
>>24634982
Yee
is not an original comment
>>24633830
Dude we're in the middle of the worst recession in known history. If you're a 20-something or younger your entire life has been spent in the downwards spiral of our economy.
>>24634837
Literally just wrote an essay on that book 2 hours ago
>>24633830
>We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place.
>We have no Great War. No Great Depression.
Just makes me think about how everyone now needs to feel like they're apart of something big, something world changing, even if it means trying to change remedial shit that people only pretend to care about.
Sort of why feminism is so large desu.
>>24633830
>We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place.
This is pretty true
Life's meaningless regardless. If I was born with a non-nihilistic personality and a natual sense of purpose, there's plenty of shit going wrong in the world to fix.
I just don't care because that's how I am. I'm not gonna blame the era I'm in. I'm glad I'm not being forced to die over some dumb shit in a meaningless world. Sure I live in a world where my society is brainwashed into a discrete slavery but at least there aren't any whips and I can choose to not give a shit about a dumb commercial or song.
>>24633830
feel like everyone knows this points to some truth, they're angry about it, but they're gonna be contrarians about it like every thread
>>24635050
the ligotti one? what did you write about..
that book is an argument against anarchism and communism, not for it
>>24633830
>How does reading this make you feel?
Horny
>>24635303
its about the shifting landscape of masculinity/identity. technology speeds up social change, each change brings about confusion and uncertainty as to what our identity or role is supposed to be. for all tylers "solutions" he doesnt know wtf he is doing, and the ending is hardly a solution. he looks back fondly on tribal times because the masculine role was stable and clear, the purpose was known (have you noticed the massive influx of survival based games at the moment? entertainment = social trends, current favorite fantasies.. in a male dominated medium..)
looking at the movie now i don't think it goes far enough. it blames everything on capitalism but i think it should point at human nature itself.
