Why don't you just go on okc or tinder and straight up say you're a virgin looking for a girl to take your v-card? If you say it in your profile and send messages, you're bound to find a girl who'll find it funny or interesting experience or even some girls who have this as a fetish... milfs especiall.
>>24613761
>Why don't you just go on okc or tinder and straight up say you're a virgin looking for a girl to take your v-card?
Most girls just think you are weird if you put that lol
>>24613781
not him but if the girl thinks you're weird, they'll just pass up your profile. It'll be no different from your current interaction with them.
>>24613761
>you're bound to find a girl who'll find it funny or interesting experience or even some girls who have this as a fetish
not really
>>24613781
>Most
His point obviously wasn't to fuck most girls on tinder, it was to find one to take your virginity
>>24613812
I live in a smallish city and if I put pls take my vcard on Tinder I would eventually come across a girl I know/used to know and that would be embarrassing.
>>24613831
Oh yeah in a small town that's a fair point. I get girls I kinda know in fucking Budapest all the time, wouldn't want anything embarassing in my profile
>>24613761
Modern women literally hate and are disgusted by virgin men and see it as a personal moral failing on your part, you are literally better off being a serial rapist because At Least You Got Laid
>>24613875
>better off in women's eyes being a serial rapist than being a virgin
read that back to yourself, anon
ask yourself if you truly believe that as true
then go outside if you still do
>>24613909
serial rapists have fans. virgins don't have fans
>>24613929
You read my post, it's time to go outside anon. The echo chamber is damaging your critical thinking again.
>>24613976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia
nice argument fagtard
>>24613909
Not that guy, but he's right. Virgins have absolutely no value. There are actually some crazy women who find criminals to be sexy for whatever reason.
>>24613999
Honestly hard to take you seriously based on your first post, and that's not really helping your case
>>24614058
>there are some crazy women who find criminals to be sexy
>this somehow pertains to how it is better in the eyes of the general public to be a serial rapist than it is to be a virgin
the reasoning skills are especially weak here this morning apparently. To the vast majority you are first and foremost a liability and a potential threat to life as a serial rapist
>>24614126
>i'm a retard who is demonstrably wrong and is in full damage control mode
I wasn't even the first guy you were talking to. You're just a retard who can't support his beliefs and thinks he doesn't have to.
Because 4/5 times the only response you'll get is a fat 3/10 woman whos 10 years older than she said on her profile and is only willing to fuck you because she's really desperate herself.
>tfw told girls on okc I was a virgin
One of them said she didn't believe in virginity and that's it's a social construct (mfw never having put pp in vjj is a social construct), while all the others (2 girls, that is) stopped replying from that point on.
>>24614153
It's weak reasoning to take a niche group of people who fetishize serial rapists and extrapolate it to the public at large to support that virgin men are literally worse than them because "well at least dey got laid." You put too much importance on getting laid if you think that serial rapists are better than virgins in the eyes of women for that reason. People might find it weird if you're a virgin, they will find you morally repugnant and will actively fear and avoid you if you are a confirmed serial rapist.
Go find some statistics on public opinion of serial rapists and rapists in general, because you apparently need reorientation to reality.
>>24614154
implying you deserve an average or above average gf
>>24614217
We were talking about sexual attraction fagtard. The average woman is more sexually attracted to a rapist than a virgin. Of course if they have to choose between the existence of someone in their life who will rape them vs a beta who will give them shit they'll choose the latter.
The only way this could work.
THE ONLY WAY THIS COULD WORK.
Is if you're attractive as fuck.
IS IF YOU'RE ATTRACTIVE AS FUCK.
Otherwise you're toasted.
OTHERWISE YOU'RE TOASTER.
You're welcome.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
>>24614257
There is a huge difference between finding a gf and finding some slut on craigslist or some dating site to fuck.
>>24614268
>we were talking about sexual attraction you fagtard
The post I responded to said that women literally hate and are disgusted by virgin men, and that would be the case for serial rapists. It went on to say that they see it as a personal moral failing, which again would be much more applicable to a serial rapist. It ends by saying that you are "literally better off being a serial rapist because at least you got laid." Once again, this is untrue, and shows the inflated importance that robot puts on getting laid if he thinks that even sexually, most women will find a serial rapist more appealing than a virgin.
>of course they won't choose the rapist stupid
No shit, but the original post is implying the opposite. A sexual fetish that some women have is not applicable to the entire population, that's retarded.
>>24613909
Its true you fucking cuk
>>24614268
>the average woman is most attracted to a serial rapist than a virgin
You know the overwhelming majority of men lose their virginity and have long intimate relationships right? If virgin men are so ABHORRENT to women how come damn near all men lose it and have longterm relationships.
I eagerly expect these buzz words
>nuh bruuuh betabux alphafux bbc afc chad hypergaming red pill weak game tight game
>>24614190
>while all the others (2 girls, that is) stopped replying from that point on.
Yup, this is why I don't bother dating. I passed the virgin age limit and women will dump me just for that. Not worth it. I did so much to rebuild my life I don't want it to be ruined by being dumped for something like that...
>>24614326
They do literally hate and feel disgusted from virgin men. They dislike rapists but not to the point of disgust. Women will absolutely find the big dark dangerous guy more appealing than someone that hasn't been socially vetted to be desirable.
Rationally realizing you shouldn't do something like date a rapist is not a visceral gut reaction, which is what we were talking about. Again you can't support your dumbass claims. Maybe *you* should go talk to some women sometime.
>>24614389
because they did it when they were 15 and they weren't expected to have had sex already. wow that was hard nice contradiction faggot.
>hurr but you said all women and i'm so stupid i try to win arguments with pedantry
lmao this is probably serious, i met a guy who was actually like this. He was a 27 year old middle school drop out, never employed, self diagnosed "aspy", couldnt leave his room during the day, shat in buckets, and believed his " rational nature" made him superior to normies while at the same time thought he could fix his life by purchasing a treadmill and doing a sweet potatoe only diet.
>>24614459
>literally hate and do feel disgusted by virgin men
>hate
>feel disgusted by
honestly just sounds like you're projecting here
>they dislike rapist but aren't disgusted by them
do you think before typing or do you let your feelings do it for you? like I advised an anon earlier in the thread, try going back and reading that again to see if you can spot something that looks strange. What you typed stinks of "I will type this because it makes me correct, regardless of how ridiculous it sounds."
>women will absolutely find the big dark dangerous guy more appealing
I don't see "serial rapist" in that description. You see in media, when the big dark mysterious hero rescues the girl, he doesn't do it after raping 3-4 women earlier in the movie. In fact violence against women is one of the biggest tells in media that that person is scum of the earth and to be reviled. Serial rape is multiple instances of sexual violence against women.
>than someone who hasn't been socially vetted to be desirable
Who is less desirable, the person who has not had sex yet, or the person who cannot get sex and is desperate enough to rape multiple women to get it? There is an answer that is reasonable here and one that is not.
>rationally realizing that that person will rape and possible kill you is not a visceral gut reaction
except that it is, your body sees that there is the danger of intense bodily harm and possibly death when you understand that the person you are with is a serial rapist. There are few reactions more visceral and compelling than the avoidance of bodily harm. That's why your body does things like pull away from the hot stove before you can even think about doing it yourself.
>maybe *you* are the one who needs to go outside
yeah I don't know about that based on the rest of your post
>>24614257
>an average person doesn't deserve another average person
>>24614503
I didnt have sex with my first girlfriend until i was 18 and i knew two guys personally who lost it in their mid 20s. Its not that weird to first have sex as a young adult.
>>24614606
no u
so what you're saying is you still have no support while the people arguing with you do so you're damage controlling
those are attractive characteristics no matter what the surrounding circumstances are retard
evolutionarily speaking? the virgin. inb4 you sperg out about how evolution couldn't possibly apply to human sexuality because we're so special
and you compare involuntary reflexes to abstract pattern recognition. ok dipshit
no u
>>24614394
I'm with you mate. I'm 22, which is probably older than most the virgins on this board but still young compared to others, and the rest of my life is going fairly well, decent job, I have a hobby (sort of) and I've decided not to spend anymore time on girls/dating. It's been a few months now and I'm feeling much better already.
>>24614691
>you have no support
What do you consider support? Because we're just throwing opinions at each other here. Damage control is saying that women aren't disgusted by rapists so that your post seems correct. If you like I can go to google scholar and find some stats on how much people hate rapists like I suggested you do, but we both know that's already there.
>those are attractive characteristics no matter what
again, we are not talking about just the tall, dark mysterious guy here. We are talking about a serial rapist and that anon conveniently left that out of his post for some reason. Perhaps because that's not what you would call an attractive quality? Again the "tall dark and mysterious guy" and the serial rapist are not one in the same, and when it's known that Mr mysterious is like that because he's Mr. serial rapist, those other quality features are going to stop looking so appealing.
>evolutionarily speaking, the virgin
>but you'll say that won't apply
I'm saying that if you take two people who are otherwise the same and presented them to a woman, with the only known difference being that one is a virgin and the other one is a convicted serial rapist, not only will they choose the virgin, they will actively avoid the serial rapist, to the point of probably wanting him out of the room because that person represents an immediate threat to their safety and well-being. If you ask who is sexually more appealing, nobody outside of a niche group of crazy bitches is going to choose the serial rapist.
>b-but women are lying i know that they secretly want that rapist cock
not nearly as much as they want to avoid bodily harm, unwanted pregnancy from a rape baby, and possibly death. But you can tell me that's not true if you like.
>you compare involuntary reflexes to pattern recognition
I wasn't equating the two, I was giving you perspective on the avoidance of pain. You prove time and time again that you lack perspective.
>>24614730
>im 22 and didn't have sex, guess I'll give up relationships for life
Yeah drop out bro, you totally made that decision on your own and werent forced into it by a media and society controlled by hooknoses who want to destroy western civilization.
>>24614854
women are so attracted to violent criminals some even focus their whole sexual identities around it. you are incapable of finding a single woman who does the same for virgins.
no he won't. you're just pulling a narrative out of your ass and you're so deluded you think this proves something
she will choose neither. she will be disgusted by the virgin and not want to be around a rapist for practical reasons. but if you put a gun to her head and make her fuck one of them it'll be the rapist
literally you admitting it's practical considerations and not attraction that make women avoid rapists
>my retarded metaphor that proves nothing wasn't meant to have a point you just thought it was because you lack perspective
>>24614941
Some women are very attracted to violent criminals, not women but some women. Yes, there are some women who have a fetish for deflowering virgins. Just google that shit. I'm not going to pretend that these women represent the general population like you seem to imply of women who are attracted to violent criminals.
>a man won't become less sexually attractive when it is found out that he is a serial rapist
>you are the deluded one
alright buddy
>she will choose neither, she will be disgusted by the virgin but not the serial rapist
>and just avoid him for practical reasons
>if you forced her to choose, she'd pick the serial rapist
How do you continue to reason that she would not be disgusted by the serial rapist but would be by the virgin?
>these practical considerations do not factor into attraction
They do. A man will be less attractive to most people if it is known that he has raped before and will rape you if he gets the chance. Of course things like looking dark and mysterious factor in but things like how he will rape you get discounted from attraction. Because being tall and dark is much more important than the whole raping you thing. What was I thinking?
>my retarded metaphor that proves nothing wasn't meant to have a point
Partly I reached the 2k character limit and this was besides the point but if you want to be like that, Your body's aversion to perceived painful stimuli is very powerful. The hand moving away from the stove is a manifestation of that most basic avoidance of harm. If you see something as being a threat to your physical safety on a primal level, from a hot stove to a rollercoaster to someone looking dangerous on the street, then you're going to avoid it by moving your hand away or not going on the rollercoaster or by moving to the other side of the street. If you perceive someone as a legitimate threat to your safety, then you're going to avoid that threat.
>>24614865
Everyone is pushing me to keep trying online dating and going out etc etc. I've decided to spend my time on more useful activities, even if it's just playing games, as I have absolutely no chance of getting a girlfriend.
>>24615120
one of those 'fetishes' is a major phenomenon because it's part of standard female sexuality the other is something that only allegedly exists
according to people on internet forums trying to downplay gender asymmetries
ok kid
because practical reasons are not attraction. does a woman get hotter to you because she's loaded? would she get uglier if she was a year from dying of cancer? no? then stop projecting bullshit
no, he'll be less desirable practically. which is different from attraction despite your constant failures to argue otherwise
so you're back to being a dipshit comparing reflexes and pattern recognition. i thought you just said you weren't doing that. women do not have some kind of equivalent reaction to touching a stove when they hear a guy raped someone you dense motherfucker
>>24615201
Top goy, yes pour your money into shiny things to busy yourself instead of reproducing! Its ok my goy erm i mean my boy, tyrone and pablo can reproduce enough to take your place!
>>24615299
>one of these fetishes is a major phenomenon and the other one might allegedly exist
the other one does exist, porn of it exists for both genders. again you can just google that shit, it takes like 10 seconds.
>would a woman get hotter to you because she's loaded
do men get hotter to women because they're loaded? yes
>do women get uglier because you know they're dying of cancer?
it's a huge boner killer if you think about it when you're about to have sex, even if they physically appear the same
>would being a virgin effect attraction?
it might yeah
If you think about having sex with someone and you think about something unattractive about that person that makes you less likely to want to have sex, then yes, these practical things to effect sexual attraction. I'd have a tough time being attracted to someone if I knew there was a good possibility that they would kill me when they were done.
The practical realities of being a serial rapist and the practical realities of being a virgin are apparently not comparable though, because while being a virgin can be a huge disgusting point, being a serial rapist is something you might dislike maybe but really want. This compartmentalizing of what is convenient to you in the box of "attraction" and what is inconvenient out of that box is pretty dumb.
>women do not have the same kind of equivalent reaction
as I said, I'm not equating the two, I'm saying that the desire to avoid pain and harm is central to our being, because you said that avoiding a rapist was not earlier. the hand moving from the hot stove is a manifestation of our body's reaction to what must be avoided. You lost the point I was trying to make in trying to dismiss it, just like in the rest of your posts.
Either way if you're not going to understand it at this point then there's no point in trying anymore, I'll leave you to your world where virgins are reviled and serial rapists are only disliked.
Can you fags stop same fagging about whatever the shit it is you're arguing about? Jesus just go masturbate already
>>24615523
porn directed at males exists
>gold diggers actually do like their providers guys
you're trying to group 'avoiding pain' into one box because damage control. it is not
glad to see you recognize you're retarded and can't provide any evidence for you dumbass beliefs. stop trying to argue things you can't support in the future
>>24615455
Am I meant to be mad/triggered by this?
>wanting to reproduce ugly manlet kids who will end up just as lonely as me even if I could
The more Tyrone and Pablo reproduce is the quicker the world goes to complete shit. It can't come fast enough to be honest.
>>24614593
what the fuck is a middle school dropout
how is that even legal
>>24614326
>my grandmother was raped and murdered in her home by a serial rapist and abuser
>they didn't have much evidence in court so they had to go on his past behaviors
>something like four long-term girlfriends testified about how he was horribly abusing, demeaning, rapey
>two more didn't testify
It's fucking insane man. You never hear about how a woman would be with a virgin for more than a month unless she's Asian, but when it comes to abuse, there is literally never a time a woman will dump her man over it. He has to leave first.
>>24613761
Stop learning everything from beta anime. I'm sure it's someone's fetish, but holy crap is that person in the extreme minority.
