Who here doesn't like talking about themselves?
Is that the thing that separates us from the normies?
>>24609966
It does indeed make me really uncomfortable.
"Let's go around the room and introduce ourselves" might as well translate to "you have terminal cancer" to me.
>>24609966
What separates us from normies is differing interests and values. We're not normies because we aren't normal.
>>24609966
really? a lot of robots i see just love talking about themselves.
>>24609986
this desu
>>24610019
>a lot of robots i see just love talking about themselves.
Do they? I thought robots were generally insecure about talking about themselves and their interests. With the exception of the completely socially retarded ones who lack all self awareness.
I'm sure I'd like talking about myself if I was impressive enough to warrant it. That said, I know normies who are just as unimpressive as I am but still talk at length about themselves. I wonder if realizing what a fundamentally pointless person I am is what separates me from them.
>>24610077
>I'm sure I'd like talking about myself if I was impressive enough to warrant it. That said, I know normies who are just as unimpressive as I am but still talk at length about themselves.
This for sure. This is probably why I find small talk so painful. I understand how boring I and (generally) the other person is yet for some reason they don't mind discussing ourselves.
>>24610048
ye robots typically have depression and depression causes attention whoring.
I can't stand talking about myself. Anyone who talks about their self I view as an extreme narcissist. Normies will never shut up about their lives or stop craving attention. This is why I love anonymous places like this. You can't attraction attention as anonymous.
>>24609966
It's indeed sickening, as if I'm trying to do some sort of personnal marketing. Only worse thing is listening to other people talk at length about themselves, specially when they're remarkably uninteresting.
What makes it all worse is realizing that advertising yourself can be so helpful in life, as if nature requires men to be low and shallow.
Aarrghhh...
>>24609966
Oh yeah totally who doesn't hate talking about themselves it's not like they'll come on R9K and talk about THEMSELVES AND HOW THEIR SO FUCKING DIFFERENT. THE ENTIRE CULTURE OF THIS PLACE IS PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT AND PITYING THEMSELVES.
>>24610340
it's anonymous and people can choose to reply. In real life people are forced to listen
are you this retarded
>what do you do for living, anon?
>well uh i'm 27yo shitposter on asiatic digital art forums...
>what about you your relationships anon
>well uh I fap to porn...
>share something interesting anon
>well uh i collect rare pepes...
I'll be honest. I have to break my ass lying to people because what the fuck can I talk about otherwise?
>"I was raised that it's not polite to talk about yourself".
>>24610340
Normie got BTFO
>>24610352
This.
No one is being forced to enjoy this mindless drivel.
I hate talking about myself.
The only exception is when I'm high on coke.
>>24610352
not him but even if people don't reply they're still technically talking about themselves which is kind of the point he was trying to make
I tend to default to talking about myself because I'm not sure what else to talk about, t b h f a m. I'm actually pretty uninteresting, there's not a whole lot that sets me apart.
>>24610340
We talk about normies and roasties too
>birthday is coming up
>well meaning family trying to make it a nice day for me, asking what I'd like to eat, how I'd like to celebrate
>they've already done far, far more for me than I've done for them in the grand scheme of things
>i just feel selfish directing a party to celebrate another year of staying alive, instead of some actual accomplishment
I really hate it if people don't talk about themselves.
Just reveal something at least. Don't be a retarded secretive goat-fucker. It's hard to get close to somebody if they never communicate their ideas, their passions and what they know.
>Wedding coming up
>Seen this couple and their friends three times or so in maybe two years
>There's going to be questions about what I'm doing and what I've been up to all this time
>that feel when you don't like talking about yourself, and are terrible at it, but do it anyway because when someone asks you something you don't know how to stop and direct the conversation back to them.
>>24610887
ask them questions back? obviously?
>r9k learns "socializing 101": the thread
I've started just saying inane things or pretending to trip over my words and divert the conversation for the most part.
>>24610019
>>24610048
it's easy to talk about yourself when you're anonymous
for example I like to jack off to pictures of dead women
>family and friends ask how my studies are going
>"Pretty well. It's been busy semester."
I dropped out a year ago.
>>24610900
No Duh! I know thats the logical thing to do, but for some reason, whenever it actually happens, it always felt like I gave too much info while at the same time trying to direct conversation back to them or other people talking to me, and then they change the topic before I get the chance to. Maybe its because my concern with hiding my power level and making sure I don't say something offensive or retarded makes me unavoidably self-centered.
>>24610966
you're a lying fuck
>>24610966
>family and friends ask how my studies are going
>"Pretty well. It's been busy semester."
>I dropped out a year ago.
What do you intend to say when they expect you to be finished next year?
>>24609966
I have a good understanding of what I am, but I cannot fathom how others perceive me or what I should say about myself that people notice about me. I am way too introverted to know what other people might need to know about me.
I don't like talking about my personal life much at all. I had a bad childhood that makes it difficult to relate to normal people well, if at all. Whenever I do bring up certain aspects, I get a lot of feigned pity and sympathy. I don't want that kind of attention. I'd rather not be treated differently because of things not under my control.
>>24610991
two things:
>and then they change the topic before I get the chance to
it may be a bit of hassle but it's not like it's a competition. jesus christ.
>Maybe its because my concern with hiding my power level and making sure I don't say something offensive or retarded makes me unavoidably self-centered.
Ease up. seriously. you could even go through-the-roof crazy with what you say if the conversation partner is likely somebody you're sure about never seeing them again or when you just don't care. there still would be little to no consequences.
>>24611047
>Whenever I do bring up certain aspects, I get a lot of feigned pity and sympathy. I don't want that kind of attention.
Probably best to avoid bringing it up.
>>24609966
DAILY REMINDER
>Hypersensitivity to rejection/criticism
>Self-imposed social isolation
>Extreme shyness or anxiety in social situations, though the person feels a strong desire for close relationships
>Avoids physical contact because it has been associated with an unpleasant or painful stimulus
>Feelings of inadequacy
>Severe low self-esteem
>Self-loathing
>Mistrust of others
>Emotional distancing related to intimacy
>Highly self-conscious
>Self-critical about their problems relating to others
>Problems in occupational functioning
>Lonely self-perception, although others may find the relationship with them meaningful
>Feeling inferior to others
>In some extreme cases, agoraphobia
>Uses fantasy as a form of escapism to interrupt painful thoughts
>>24611194
These are the diagnostic criteria for avoidant personality disorder, no?
I have it and I have known about it for a couple years now. Only two of the criteria don't fit.
>>24611246
>Only two of the criteria don't fit.
Which two?
>>24611250
Emotional distancing related to intimacy and avoiding physical contact because it has been associated with an unpleasant or painful stimulus.
I want to be loved, same as everyone else and I actually love physical contact.
>>24611276
I used to hate physical contact because I never had any with my family except for my brother beating me up every day.
Its something I yearn for now though
>>24611276
>Emotional distancing related to intimacy
I have this one. I've had opportunities to hook up with girls I know and have rejected it because I don't want them getting to know me more out of fear of rejection/criticism.
>avoiding physical contact
Agree with this. I crave physical contact so much.
there's 2 types of talking about yourself. there's boasting and then there's 2 people having a dialogue, sharing information about each other.
talking about yourself unironically is something you do when you're bonding with someone.
you can tell when someone is only interested in talking about themselves and not interested in learning about you, these are the types of people i can't stand.
sociable people will ask you something about yourself after they talk about themselves.
conversations 101.
>>24609986
Nobody is normal, sparky. This thing you call a "normie" doesn't exist, it's just a social construct made by robots to attempt to make themselves feel special.
>>24609966
I love talking about myself, I'm just really fucking horrible at it and make an embarassment at myself
>>24611323
it's really hard for me to ask about the other person because I'm not genuinely interested in them. why would I ask about your job when I don't give a fuck about what you do
>>24610371
Actually you've eaten up the culture here wholesale. A robot churned off an assembly line. That makes you the normal one, mass produced synthetic like you see the outside normies. That makes you the normie here.
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>>24611363
>because I'm not genuinely interested in them
yeah, cause that's totally the case with every single person you'll ever meet, right?
some of you guys are really fucking weird and stupid on top of that.
>>24611426
well yeah sometimes I'm interested in their boobs or asshole. but I'm also vaguely aware it's not socially acceptable to ask about them
>>24611426
A lot of people on 4chan--robots or normals--believe that all people are the same and/or all people are like them.
I don't like talking about myself because I value humility and I don't want to seem like I'm bragging.
>>24611483
Almost everyone /r9k/ believes they are a special snowflake.
>>24611483
I know. It's fucking annoying because it's not true in the slightest. it's the result of becoming a complete hermit, shunning society. none of you have enough esoteric knowledge or just wisdom about life to check out of society like that in order to think about other people like that. you don't know their lives in the slightest. that observation about the ones you think is most likely not going to be accurate.
>>24611533
This is a reasonable post, but it doesn't explain why I find most people so boring.
>>24611454
I just ask about them anyway. If your tone is light-hearted enough, people usually will just laugh at you like, "Is this nigga serious?" Then keep the conversation flowing. It helps if you're both drinking.
If you can get a woman to talk freely about sex or their sexuality, it's usually a sign that they'll give up their ass or that they're extremely comfortable with you.
Just beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee urself, anon.
>>24611529
I didn't need an example but thanks?
>>24611533
>it's not true in the slightest
Right. It goes for the offline world too. People don't even seem to know what a fucking outlier is.
>goes on to grossly generalize and provide another example
I don't get it.
>>24611563
I don't know. Maybe it's because you're boring yourself and project that on most people you meet.
this is exactly the same thing. I don't know you enough to pass judgment and now I have to take a shot in the dark while asking you to find that answer within yourself. Not being passionate about people is also a possibility. At least that would most likely involve no pain about relationships. But that's the only "good" thing about it. it's still leading to stagnation on many levels. Interacting with others makes you grow as a person eventually.
>>24611563
not enough time spent with them. you don't get a laid out blueprint of their personality the second you meet them, you have to let time pass.
that's the hardest thing about relationships: pretending to be interested and doing it long enough to learn about the other person.
sometimes you can learn a lot about someone in a short time, they call that "clicking", we just "click".
