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How does it feel, fellow robots, that while you spent years practicing,
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How does it feel, fellow robots, that while you spent years practicing, refining, and getting good at a legitimate musical instrument (guitar, bass, violin, sax, etc) and can't even join a band and even if you did 1 out of every 10000 bands gets somewhere that isn't their garage, that some faggot who spent less than a month learning what button does what with a 99$ program (compared to your 300$-600$ fender or violin or something) decided to put random noises and shitty filters in a simple drum and bass line and gets paid literally MILLIONS to sit at home all day, make some songs and just send them to his record company, then gets paid ANOTHER million just to show up at a "concert" and press play on his macbooks and swing his head around like he's actually doing something.
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>>24564573
IDK how does it feel? you seem to be very bitter.
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I, somewhere even if you feel a fellow robots all get one from 10,000 band practice, adjust, or can't join a band, and spent a year getting better in a legitimate musical instrument (guitar, bass, violin, SAX, etc) several sheaves (compared with 300 of your $ 600 $ fender or violin or something), spent less than a month learning how button 99 $ program and in not decided to put a parking lot. Stupid simple drum and bass line with the random noise filter all day sitting at home, paid the just another million just sent to his record company, literally paid millions to hold concert on his macbook and appear to play him some songs to make the actually doing something that as he shakes his head.
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Is it any different than what kraftwerk, or later daft punk did?
sure their equipment was a little more expensive, but still.
And I think daft punk is bretty good.
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If its so easy why dont you do it?

You know nothing about sound design and playing an instument doesnt make you good at it or better than someone who uses their pc as an instrument. Git gud faget
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I, even Dang you feel all robot from about for 10,000 name colleagues returns, edit, or cannot joined band, and spent has a years improve legal of instruments (guitar, and bass guitar, and violin, and saxophone,) of place several bundle (and $ 300 to $ 600 you fender, and violin or other what), spent has not to a months, learning how $ 99 program button and no decided put parking. Stupid simple drum and bass line with the random noise filter, sit at home all day, pay is just another one to his record company, literally millions, held a concert on your MacBook and it seems to play some of the songs actually do something for him, shaking his head.
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>>>/mu/ blox
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>>24564625
Daft punk is great but they use real instruments usually and they don't have shitty wubwuwbwusbsisbkdhwbe filters.
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>>24564641
I know how to. Its incredibly easy with some shitty program like fruity loops or any other program, hell I think I read that a guy once made a virus or something that made music randomly with a program and like 3 of the "songs" the randomizer virus thing made got really popular
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>>24564573
I thought the "le dumpstek sux xD" people have grown up by now or something.

Learning how to properly use a DAW and write songs with it takes years.
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>>24564641
Also I don't do it because its total shit and its like the easy way for people who can't bother to sit for 1 hour a day to practice to make music.
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>>24564694
>filters
I dont think you understand what they are
Some of Daft punks most memorable songs were nothing but stretched samples with filters thrown in. Skrillex's bass sounds arent filters, they are created from scratch and tweaked in very specific ways to acheive the exact sound he wants. Sure they have filters on, but you cant just make a song and throw a "wub filter" and get brostep. It doesnt work like that.
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>>24564573
>some faggot who spent less than a month learning what button does what with a 99$ program (compared to your 300$-600$ fender or violin or something) decided to put random noises and shitty filters in a simple drum and bass line and gets paid literally MILLIONS to sit at home all day

hmmmmmm
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>>24564723
post your work
or is it too shit to post it on here?
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>>24564748
Skrillex is all filters.
He builds a basic bass synth or three.
Throws a filter with either automation or an LFO on them and tweaks it until he likes it.

Synth design is really, really, really difficult, though.
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>>24564738
It takes more than an hour a day to become a good producer.
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>>24564779
Are you implying skrillex doesnt use synths?

His music isnt as braindead as you may think it is
https://youtu.be/MwP8vRckByQ
That one minute clip alone is better than most of his tracks
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>>24564838
Are you illiterate?
Please do reread that post.
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>>24564573
it feels fine fine. that's the way the world works. normies want to hear shit and they're happy to pay for it. no artist should want to make music for them
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>>24564858
>skrillex is all filters

You literally implied he doesnt use or creates his own synths because apparently some filters are all you need to produce music like he does
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>le skrillex gets millions for pressing space
>le electronic music takes no skill
>le all electronic music is dubstep and sucks

Fuck off. Electronic music takes countless hours to perfect and get just right. You have to do everything in the song yourself. With instruments you only have to do one thing.

Example of good electronic music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnhuZ_p-dbQ
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Sure, you might not require the same amount of skills but the most important part of music is to figure out good songs. Even if i had the skills with the instrument as some famous musician i would probably not be able to come up with a good song.
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>>24564917
>Example of good electronic music:
You for real?

That is not what anyone would call good.
How about some dubstep, kiddo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mOIXdC4rgA
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>>24564573
DJing digital is really, really easy, I agree.
Vinyl only is where it's at.
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All these people saying "it takes days to make a dub step song"
>mfw these guys don't take into account the time people who play instruments take to write music with solos and lyrics
(inb4 mainstream shit that takes like 15 mins)
>mfw these guys don't add the time it takes to learn an instrument really well and the time to find band mates and practice together
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>>24565007
It takes years to learn music production on a fundamental level.
Mastering synthesis is a lifetime project and you might as well learn to use a keyboard well, otherwise you don't even need to bother with music production.

If you do everything yourself, electronic music is far more expansive than rock music could ever be, even on a basic level.
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>>24565007
>solos
Churn out 3 or 4 improvs, combine the good parts together, ta-da! You have an epic solo.
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>>24565007
> if its harder to make its better

I bet you also think building houses with hammers and nails is better than using nail guns and modern tools.
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>>24565100
>not accounting the time to learn how to improv and memorize each fingering sounds
Its like trial and error with dub its like... Hmm this sounds good. This doesn't. This does. By clicking a mouse a few times
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>>24565199
Makes it more legit IMO.
Would you rather hire someone who can build something from scratch or a guy who can 3d print something? The guy who takes time is obviously way more dedicated tthan the guy who does it "easy" in about a year is already a producer and posts it on his YouTube and since its dubstep albeit shit dubstep it gets featured on edm channels and guy gets money while noone features indie rock/jazz etc groups
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>>24565218
>not accounting the time to learn how to modulate and synthesize each sound
Its like trial and error with solos its like... Hmm this sounds good. This doesn't. This does. By plucking a string a few times
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>>24565268
>dubstep
>shit
lmao get that cowboy out of here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvUgnmqwN2E
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>>24565218
>time to learn how to improv
How about the time to learn to produce. As someone who does both, I think improvising and creating solos and riffs is usually easier than getting your sound right - and it's even harder to be creative with your production.
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Musical instruments take literally no skill. Seriously, just press your finger on some wood or cover a whole on a pipe. Congrats, you're now a master.
Singing on the other hand, that requires actual talent and skill
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>>24564573
>Implying I do anything other then play vidya and fap to porn
Jokes on you, you can keep your shitty dj job senpai.
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>>24565522
DJing is not shitty, it's really fun, if you got a crowd willing to work with you.
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>>24565268
>Not-popular-thing isn't popular guys :( Popular-thing sucks!
Why do people like you NEVER think? Why are you conveniently ignoring how it takes time to learn how to make music using producing software?
I literally learned how to play Em, G, D, A7 in a day. I could play Wonderwall at day 1 of learning acoustic. Does that make Wonderwall a shit song?
It's very simple and very popular. This applies to many electronic music, but somehow you people ignore how that the very same thing can be said about a shitload of rock.

And what the fuck does being popular have to do with the "quality" of music anyway? What the hell does quality even mean? I can enjoy a 4-chord song or an easygoing liquid drum 'n bass song or a 10 minute long Coltrane piece or an almost 9 minute long breakcore epic without giving a single fuck about how complex or not complex it is, why can't you? Did you also complain to your mother about breakfast because that fucking sandwich took only 2 minutes to make?
Did you not enjoy some pop punk in middle school? One of the most simplest genre of rock music? Because I'm really sure you feel nostalgic towards Green Day.

Yes, I am slightly upset. Now listen to some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSYdFmEFCI
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>>24564573
Except the people who DO commit their life to their skill and DO devote their time practicing, refining, and getting good for years are exactly the ones who end up successful.

These artists didn't just pop into fame and fortune the moment after they decided to make music. Dick riding aside, skrillex was already doing shit in the music industry for around almost a decade before he became majorly successful.

The same applies to comedians, actors, etc.
It's about gitteng gud and being committed, if you think it's getting lucky you're just fooling yourself.

On another note, that "99$" software costs well over a grand.
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