So this... thing... is going to be the next President of the United States?
>>24555181
lol cripples, can0't stump teh trump
>>24555181
Faggot, better embrace an improved America.
>>24555181
He'll struggle to crack 40% against Hillary. The Republicans are, currently, too retarded to counter her.
>he doesn't know that shillary is winning
>>24555233
This. Anyone who thinks Hillary is going to lose is either a delusional reddit Berniebot or a delusional /pol/ Trumpfag
>>24555233
>>24555261
>>24555262
HIDF please
>>24555233
>>24555261
>>24555262
Nobody likes Hillary. She's a blatantly lying old cunt. Bernie would win before she would, and that ain't happening, either.
>>24555295
>he actually thinks hillary won't win
>>24555314
well then who will win?
Trump is a Clinton plant, they're good friends and he's donated millions to her campaign. His role is to subjugate the Republican nomination to pave the way for Hilary. The Bilderberger's will get what they want.
>>24555181
shhh let it happen
>>24555363
Trump. He's dominating in the polls and still hasn't declined, despite being 5 months.
>>24555314
>She's a blatantly lying old cunt
care to riff on that?
>>24555314
>nobody likes hillary
keep telling yourself that
if hillary is wins the nomination, which she probably will, and the other democrats voted for bernie, do you really think that those who voted for bernie would vote for trump?
he's the opposite of bernie
>>24555295
Hillary is literally like an 8 to 1 favorite on sportsbooks. If you think any one else can win, put your money where your retardation is
>>24555551
dude look at that you were off the digit
>>24555555
He's the sideshow, the court jester. Nothing more. Everyone knows it but pretends otherwise. Typical media bullshit.
Maybe, but people are dumb (especially his supporters). His odds to win the republican primary are 15% at best. They see his polls and fail to realize 90% of potential voters have yet to make a decision.
If he still tops the polls by boxing day, we can talk about raising his odds to 20%.
>>24555314
>Nobody likes Hillary.
Don't be retarded. Just because you do't leave your house and immerse yourself in Internet communities with niche opinions doesn't mean the majority of America doesn't think she's a good option.
If "nobody" liked her, she wouldn't have fucking 40% of the vote among Democrats (all of whom will vote for her in the general election over any of the retards the GOP will put up).
I think he represents general population of united states of 'murica very well.
>>24555771
>le funny 'murica meme
Kill self
>there are people who are actually voting for Shillary
Why are americans so FUCKING retarded?!
I can't hate Trump, but I don't want him to win. I don't want Hillary to win either, but who else stands a chance? Maybe Bernie will get the nomination, but that's still just an off-chance.
>>24555332
iOS seriously are the only good looking emojis.
LG is a close second but what the fuck most look like shit.
Carson will get the republican nomination
Hilary will get the democrat nomination
Hilary with win the election
this is a pretty obvious outcome
Were gonna build a wall so yuuuuge, everything else will look like small potatoes. CHINA right now is beating us in walls. They've got one big wall, one big, big wall, way bigger than any wall we have in America. I'm gonna build a wall, we're gonna build it together, and we're gonna make America great again.
>>24555793
It was rigged from the start
>>24555812
Carson is literally affirmative action the candidate
>>24555812
How dumb are you to think Carson will win?
It's been like 40 years since a meme candidate won the nomination.
Rubio/Cruz will be the republican ticket.
>>24555815
WALL.
>>24555262
Hillary Tumblerite detected
This dumbass has no chance of winning.
I have a feeling it'll end up being Clinton vs Bush.. Gotta keep the status quo going.
>>24555985
Trump does have no chance of winning, but neither does Bush. His campaign lost all steam, he gained virtually zero endorsements since the race truly began, he did poorly in the debates and -probably worst of all- his 'downfall' has become such a popular media spin, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. You don't recover from that.
They used to at least humor us into believing we had a democracy. They used to at least say "oh darn those silly republicans, it'll be different when we get a democrat in there!" And vice versa. Now the population is so doped up by the control system they're just like "here's a tv personality or something, shut up, sit down we're busy trying to silence the revolution"
Yes. Yes he is.
>>24555469
-She was fired from the Watergate investigation for lying and being unethical
-She lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary
-She lied throughout her Whitewater scandal
-She lied about taking "sniper fire" when visiting the Balkans during 90s
-She lied about Benghazi
-She lied throughout her email scandal and continues to lie about it
-She lied about being broke after leaving the White House
-She received millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs for speaking engagements
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from Goldman-Sachs, JP Morgan, and Citigroup
-Her "charity" received tens of millions of dollars from China, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Qatar, and the UAE
-She supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Turkey
-She voted for the Patriot Act twice
-She was "adamantly against illegal immigration" before she was for it
-She was opposed to gay marriage before she was for it
-She was a lawyer who vehemently defended a rapist and laughed at the plight of the 12 year old rape victim
-She approved the sale of U.S. uranium to Russian nuclear corporations in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her "charity"
-She gave out eight Secretary of State's Awards for Corporate Excellence, and seven of them were given to corporations who donated millions to her "charity"
She is literally every reason not to vote for a politician all rolled into one person.
>you live in a country where people vote for someone just for being black
>you live in a country where people vote for someone just for being a woman
>>24556094
But she has a vagina so she's literally going to win because of the progressive society we live in.
Who can stop her? Bernie is on the same team and the entirety of the Republican party is racing to give Democrats the election as fast as possible.
>>24556182
Hmmm? Id rather vote obama again than any other candidate.
>>24556094
lol. sperg
>>24556094
>implying
got facts to back this cukcoldry up?
Is r9k pol-lite?
Trump has almost no chance of winning. He's pissed off way too many different groups of people to have a real shot, and hasn't ever really been a serious candidate. The fact he's ahead in the polls now means a lot less than everyone thinks it does. He has amazing name recognition and a fiery base, but when the time comes for people to actually vote, they'll moderate their views heavily. It will be one of the more moderate generic Republicans who I know nothing about like Rubio or Cruz.
Nope OP, its gonna be
HILLARY 2016
So who has flip-flopped the least? I just want to vote for someone that will give the common man an easier chance of upwards mobility.
>>24556459
>Ted Cruz
>moderate
Cruz makes Republicans look as bad as Trump does.
>>24555181
>Trump making fun of his cognitive skills
>OMG HE MADE FUN OF HIM BECAUSE HE'S HUNGRY SKELETON
>>24556582
Oh. Well as I said, I don't know him. But it will be one of those more generic candidates.
Personally I'd take Rand Paul over any of the other Republican candidates, but I know he doesn't have a chance.
>thanksgiving
>family member talking
>says he's voting for trump
I thought it was a meme guys.
JUST LET A PAUL INTO THE WHITE HOUSE ALREADY GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
doubtful. against Hillary, he'd probably lose by a small margin. against Bernie, he'd lose by a landslide
>>24556616
Nah, rewatch the video he's clearly making fun of the niggas weird ass arms
>>24556706
this, but he's got no chance at this point
>>24556657
Disown him.
People voting for Trump is the perfect way to know who's smart and whose an idiot.
>>24556706
>>24556621
Rand Paul is pretty respectable, coming from someone not libertarian.
Yes, he understands the memes in a way that the other candidates are not able to. Trump is a dank lord of the memes.
>>24556706
No memes allowed
No originality in this comment
>>24556706
>wanting goldbug prez
>>24556706
>>24556752
nah, rand sold out to the establishment because he didn't want to fail like his father
in return he squandered ron paul's fanbase and more traditional conservatives still don't like him. In his efforts to please everyone he pleased nobody and now is destined to do worse than ron paul in 2008
Trump is literally this guy from Robocop. He's either going to take this country down a dystopian Detroit-style path or he'll paralyse the government by trying to pass radical legislation nobody in Congress will support.
Anyone voting for him will be -- whether they realize it or not -- trying to destroy this country out of spite. So even though he goes against who I am and what I believe in, a big part of me really wants him to win.
>>24556706
I can't be the only one who wants either Bernie or Paul. I know their economic policies are wildly different, but they both care about civil liberties to at least a degree.
It will be Hillary. It's guaranteed.
Bet all your money on it and make an 80% return
>http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149
My gf says she won't vote for Trump regardless of who he was against simply because "he's a scumbag".
She told me he "raped" his 1st wife but is that even true?
>>24555181
I'm willing to bet this was either taken out of context or blown out of proportion. The news media tend to pull shit like this.
>>24556815
When they were married, the law in the US (and much of elsewhere) was that a husband couldn't rape his wife.
I think Donald admitted to having sex with his wife when she didn't really want it - but his marital status exempted him from any sexual assault charges.
>>24556094
>-She was opposed to gay marriage before she was for it
That's called being a politician.
>-She was a lawyer who vehemently defended a rapist and laughed at the plight of the 12 year old rape victim
It was her job plus she never laughed about it.
I agree she's a liar and a shill but give her a tiny bit of credit.
>>24555181
No. It doesn't really matter though. Everything is fucked anyways. Trump would just be accelerate what's already in motion.
>>24556751
>says trump's tax plan will help him
>is poor and "self employed"
>blames obama and hillary for iraq war
>says obama won two peace prizes
>says trump is trustworthy
>>24555181
Makes me feel good just thinking about it.
>>24556815
I don't know. I saw something about that, apparently it came out in a biography, then the wife backtracked and said it didn't happen.
But whether it happened or not, stuff like that is a large part of why he's dead in the water. He won't get much of the female vote, much of the black vote, and he's sure as shit not getting much of the Mexican vote. Sure angry white people can get you pretty far, but they probably can't get you into the White House unopposed.
>>24556832
Oh well she goes on tumblr and likes Kekie Sanders so I'm not surprised she had it blown out of proportion.
>>24555181
Even Republican candidates hate him because it forces them to realize how stupid their supporters are.
99% of people who say they'd vote for Trump can't come up with a reason other than "he's a business man" or "we need someone who'll speak his mind no matter what"
>>24556904
I mean raping your wife is illegal now, it just wasn't historically.
>>24555181
fuck off tumblr
can't stump
Trump has literally no platform other than deporting illegal aliens. Everything else is him just talking loud, pandering, pissing people off, and getting into fights with people in twitter.
>>24557015
This is how the empire ends.
Not with a bang, but with a twitter.
Nope. It's going to Be Rubio or Hillary.
Can we just have Bill back? He was doing a pretty good job.
>>24555181
Yes because our voters are retarded enough to vote for a candidate because of their social views instead of their economic ones
>>24557015
>shitposting president
I can dig it.
>>24557156
bill was just another wall street shill
I'm not american, but its pretty frightening to hear that there are actually people who want Hillary to be president. I guess they are too busy jacking off to pay attention to what the fuck is going on right now.
If you are planning to stay out of a prison camp I would be packing bags to move to an irrelevant countery somewhere outside the west. Obama has come close to starting WW3 with his policies. If it doesn't start now I garuntee you there will be an all out war during the hillary presidency.
The first thing they will do when there is imminent attack is put people in camps because they do not want civilians running around and being used to help the enemy, which is what happens in war time. They will confiscate everything and put everyone under strict suvellience.
If you are a neet, you will be forced to work.
When the enemy occupies your village they will rape and pillage because the conditions will be absolute shit and soldiers will have gone mad.
You are absolutely fucking retarded if you think hillary is viable , maybe you want to die in the most humiliating way possible, you won't even have a chance at fighting back, you'll be rotting away in a camp somewhere, if that is what you want vote for Hillary.
>>24557175
Bill was a social conservative, who made America prosper using common sense economics including lowering Corporate and Income taxes. He was a great president.
In summary...
K then Bernie shill
>think who becomes president makes a difference
>thinks popular votes make a difference
>all candidates are backed by big companies.
>>24555181
Hes a real estate businessman and an entertainer.
He is good at the second job.
>>24557212
CHANGING TACTICS
>>24557186
>this whole post desu
>>24556575
Sanders
>>24555781
>implying Trump doesn't represent the quiet majority
i've noticed that a lot of people in their 50s absolutely love trump
it's fucking scary how many of those people want to see this guy as president. yea sure he's funny with all the build wall un pc belligerence, but that's just memes.... r-right?
>>24555181
>upload a pic instead of a gif of the great donald trump mocking
This is why no one will remember your name.
>>24555181
the question is if trump going to go more socially liberal after the primaries. republicans will be stuck with the "anti hillary" and the other 40% of normies might actually consider voting for a less regulated economy (since legislative stimulus usually give quick short gain boosts).
>>24557242
I guess this is what the majority of people are thinking or you're just a fuckign shill.
I've never really thought North Americans were capable of being intelligent anyway, every North american I've met was pretty much handicapped. It can't be undone.
>>24555181
GET A WARRANT YOU MEME FUCK
America is surely coming to an end as an empire. How do you guys expect to compete with China/Russia, when your president is going to be either some meme business man tv personality, or a lying psychotic left wing woman. It's absurd. How decadent and delusional have you become when you are so weak and isolated from the world and it's problems that this is how your leader is chosen. It's just a rotting hulk at this point.
>>24556582
>tumblrite being this triggered about Cruz
It must hurt that Cruz would win handily against Hillary if the election was held today according to recent polls. It really stings, eh?
>>24555843
pretty sure he said "republican nomination"
>>24556575
Bernie sanders tbqh famila
>>24555262
>>24555233
>Hillary
>the same hillary that is losing within her own party
Okay, family
>>24557472
>Trump is a meme
>That must mean he isn't a good businessman
I love this meme
Are you going to mention bankruptcy too?
>>24557244
>>24557615
>upward mobility
>Bernie "permanent underclass receiving handouts" Sanders.
>>24557808
that is one hairy stomach. holy shit
>>24557015
>Trump has literally no platform other than deporting illegal aliens
tax plan, tarrifs on outsourcing companies and imports, building industries domestically, that's just off the top of my head, the man does have decent ideas but the way he spouts his ideas come off idealistic, crass, and offensive, so people are turned off by that
>>24557808
>/pol/tards save pics of black dicks to make cvck edits
You fags are gayer than /fit/
>>24557242
you're a retard if you dont think hilary won't start WW3 or at least not prevent it
>>24557212
>all candidates are backed by big companies.
except donald and bernie
>there are people in this thread that actually think the general election will be between anyone but clinton and rubio
sometimes i forget the average /r9k/ poster wasn't old enough to vote in the previous election
>>24556795
Exactly. I have strong nationalistic tendencies, so the "make america great again" stuff really makes me pop a freedom boner.
At the same time, I realize that we are destined to collapse. Trump is a magical candidate that says what makes me feel good AND will hasten the inevitable decline of the US. I'd rather it be fast and exciting than some boring slow decline shit.
You know how professors always say "no one in Rome woke up and knew that the empire had collapsed"? People will know the day that our collapse started, and it'll be when trump gets into office.
On the other hand, he may just make america great again.
if trump wins the republican nomination it's pretty much in the bad for the democratic candidate, likely Hillary, so you'd think more republicans would be vocally against him. I mean, most of trump's supporters can't even articulate what they support about him beyond "uhhh he speaks his mind"
>>24558547
>hasten the inevitable decline of the US
Yea I'm sure Hillary won't make that happen even faster.
I would like to see her win the election so I can witness an entire nation collapse in my lifetime and watch the idiots cry for help
I know there are hillrey shills here, i will make this thread absolute shit if I have to no one will bother reading it. In fact Im already half way there. My posts are already shitting up your shill thread.
>>24555181
CANNOT STUMP DONALD TRUMP.
I actually had that written in Japanese but 4skin doesn't allow non-ASCII text even though it's a Japanese website now.
>>24556859
A tax plan where you pay literally nothing WOULD help, you NEETfag
>>24555812
Carson is toast bruh.
Cruz or Rubio will win.
Trump is the battering ram against the gates of the Judeo-Bolshevist establishment. He is the spark for the bonfire of fascism that will inevitably engulf the U.S. When this happens, Trump will be discarded and replaced with actual fascist elements who will not only stamp out Jewish Bolshevism at home, but also Jewish ethnocentricism, manifested as zionism, within our political and economic system, and abroad. This part of the plan will not be revealed to the hoodwinked goyish masses yet, for they will need to be at least partially enlightened upon the issue of the Jewish Question before we can proceed.
>>24555812
I'd rather swallow a sawed off than call that cunt president
>>24557627
>losing
Did fox news tell you that? She leads by a wide margin to Sanders.
>>24555812
This
>b-but Trump is le rebel candiate you can't stump the Trump!
The Republicans chose the nominee and Trump signed to say he wouldn't run independent. He's their bitch now
>>24555801
Wow you're so wrong it hurts. iOS has by far one of the ugliest, though a lot of those take the crown for worst. I like the snapchat and Android on the most
>>24556094
To be honest, if you think about it, she's probably like, a total sociopath.
Most of the Republican candidates are usually delusional retards they are still sociopaths, so they just give their friends all the shekels. I could see Hillary truly being a monster and just seeing the world burn for her own joy. The simple fact she's STILL married to a cheating husband, for purely personal and sick reasons, honestly gives me a better view of her than the shitlords that would gut me for every cent I had because they greedy vs just evil.
>>24555181
What happened to the classic white guy? Nowadays the president has to be mentally retarded, a negro, a women ... or ORANGE, wtf?
>>24557294
Give me a viable candidate that would be better
>>24555314
>Nobody likes Hillary
Literally doesn't matter. She's currently one of the most powerful politicians in the U.S. (and the world, for that matter) and her husband used to be the fucking president. She has well-known ties to many different corporate leaders, including those in the media. She's got more money coming in than any other Democratic candidate (second most overall, behind Bush). Clinton is totally set up for the win.
Clinton is the absolute last person I wanna see in office. I'll probably be voting for Bernie when the time comes, but he simply doesn't have the support of the people holding the wealth, which, sadly is more important than the support of the citizenry.
>>24555181
No, he'll be annihilated. It won't be Obama/Romney '12, it'll be Johnson/Goldwater '64 all over again, assuming the Bush pham doesn't have him whacked before he can get the nomination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
>>24555465
>>24555363
This. Trump only pretends to be retarded. In fact he carefully avoids Republican subjects that could cost him the election against Clinton (like abortion or gay rights). His controversies were always well planned, they are just here to reinforce his Trump persona of a loud-mouthed politically incorrect Alpha. Now just wait until after the nominations are over. Trump can stump Hillary by simply taking her from the left, advocating for higher taxes on the rich and opposing free trade, while attacking her as being bought by Wall Street. Clinton would have to rely more and more on SJW rhetoric which could alienate liberal but anti-SJW voters.
>>24560815
I honestly don't know of anyone who intends to vote for Bush.
It's insane to me that one major candidate is married to a former president, and another is son/brother to a former president. It just goes to show that if you're not born/married into the highest rung of the social ladder, the odds are against you.
>>24556459
>but when the time comes for people to actually vote, they'll moderate their views heavily
Except the first States are coming right after the holidays and the other candidates know they have almost no time left to stop him. It'sone thing to lead in the polls, but if he starts winning all the early States it's almost over.
>>24555314
See>>24560691
America is not a full democracy. The electoral college decides everything.
>>24560884
>Trump reverses his position
>this will get him more votes
You're supporting Trump ironically right? He's Armstrong without principles or NANOMACHINES.
>>24560884
It would be hilarious if after the republican elections and it was up to the two of them he just said "Ha! I was only pretending to be retarded!" and got hilary right where he wanted her
>>24558860
>I actually had that written in Japanese but 4skin doesn't allow non-ASCII text
It's /r9k/'s bot that doesn't allow it. Other boards will work just fine with Japanese text.
You can write it in escaped Unicode.
\u5AC1\u304C\u611B\u3055\u308C\u3066\u308B\u6642\u306E\u8868\u60C5\u7DF4\u7FD2
You could print this in Javascript using
console.log('\u5AC1\u304C\u611B\u3055\u308C\u3066\u308B\u6642\u306E\u8868\u60C5\u7DF4\u7FD2')
or in Python using
print('\u5AC1\u304C\u611B\u3055\u308C\u3066\u308B\u6642\u306E\u8868\u60C5\u7DF4\u7FD2')
>>24560982
He won't reverse his position. He will just complete his right-wing populism on immigration with left-wing populism on to attract Sanders' votes and other dissatisfied voters. Obviously he won't go nearly as far as Sanders, but as a billionaire and businessman (plus in this scenario Republican candidate) Trump will have the absolute advantage when proposing some left-wing economic policies: Hillary will not be able to oppose him on that, and he will never appear as an irrealistic anti-business marxist, so it can't harm him in any way. Knowing Trump's style and his fanbase, he could even afford to go full doublethink, and call one same exact policy "socialist bullshit" when proposed by Democrats and "common sense" when proposed by him.
Historically when right-wing populists borrow left-wing economic policies it's always a huge success. That's how the fascists and the nazis went to power, that's how authoritarian regimes remained very popular, and now that's also how the FN in France went from fringe unelectable party to first in all polls by a wide margin.
There isn't a single candidate running I'd genuinely like to see sitting behind the Resolute desk.
I'd rather see the corpse of William McKinley running for office than any of these stooges.
>>24560982
You aren't paying any attention to his policy, presumably because Reddit is telling you he has none, and is just an evil racist facist.
Can you name any other viable candidate who doesn't want to keep funneling money and weapons to Sunnis?
>>24561301
I've read up on most of Trump's policies on his site and some interviews.
Sanders. He wants to pull out.
Trump is Armstrong without principles because Trump has never showed any conviction for anything but his business. He understands it's not what you say but the spin you out on it. Hence the hats, shirts and anti illegal rhetoric.
>>24562064
Sanders' foreign policy would involve giving !money and support to the Saudis.
It's so easy for people to trash talk politicians, as if there is nothing that they are allowed to do wrong. I like his policy suggestions such as anti-immigration, but he will not win the seat unfortunately, although I am fine with Clinton winning instead.
>>24562064
>Trump has never showed any conviction for anything but his business.
I guess you missed all the time he's been saying our country is being fucked over in trade and how consistent he's been over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI for example.
>He understands it's not what you say but the spin you out on it. Hence the hats, shirts and anti illegal rhetoric.
Right, it's only because he says "Build Wall" and "Deport Mexicans" because GOP voters can't possibly have the capacity to think like an intellectual democrat such as yourself right?
Do you even know what Trump's policies are?
>>24560968
So? Electoral college is based off votes, it's not like you can realistically pay someone to vote against their mandate.
>voting for shillary
>voting for dump
I honestly have more respect for Bernie voters despite their demographics, just because they actually vote for someone that marginally would improve their own position.
>>24560968
I love this meme. If you didn't have the electoral college then states such as California and New York would have a massive advantage over every other state, especially the less populated ones. The electoral college makes it more fair for the states that aren't as populated. You're being a useful idiot for leftists by arguing against it.
It's not like this was something that big business came up with to get George W Bush into office, it's a system that's been around since the time of The Framers.
>>24555332
>Doing the hand gesture of the devil
>>24562345
>Bernie
>Improving anything
Why do Europeans talk about American politics? How often do you see Americans trying to say who you should vote for in your country? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about in the slightest if you honestly believe a socialist system will work when we can't even afford the ones we have now. Not to mention his "solutions" to greedy businesses is more regulations and higher minimum wage which would help kill many small businesses, but who cares about that right?
Fucking idiot.
>>24555181
>mfw if colonel kuck or that lying cunt got elected some people would actually celebrate because "take that /pol/ :D"
Churchill was right about democracy.
>>24562385
I didn't say that he would improve society at large, I said that he would improve the position of the people who probably vote for him (Free stuff, right?)
>How often do you see Americans trying to say who you should vote for in your country?
Far too often, americlap.
>believe a socialist system will work when we can't even afford the ones we have now
And why is the current, non-socialist system not working?
>Not to mention his "solutions" to greedy businesses is more regulations and higher minimum wage which would help kill many small businesses
How do you propose that one would remove the giant buttfucking that is American corporations then?
>>24562479
>I didn't say that he would improve society at large, I said that he would improve the position of the people who probably vote for him (Free stuff, right?)
Well forgive me. I just woke up and I'm very high.
>And why is the current, non-socialist system not working?
Too many reasons to list. Big ones are out of control military spending (We spent $1 trillion dollars on developing a jet fighter), the welfare systems themselves (It was designed to help people in the 1930s while they find jobs, but we now have people who completely live off it), losing money through trade (Again, lots of reasons for this), Government taking funds meant for the welfare systems and using it because they can't even maintain a balanced budget, and so much more.
>How do you propose that one would remove the giant buttfucking that is American corporations then?
Do things such as tax reform to remove the crony capitalist loopholes that were created to allow rich people a way to completely avoid taxes, make it cheaper and easier to do business in the US than anywhere else in the world, so businesses will WANT to be here, stop regulating small businesses so much (Big businesses LOVE over regulation because small business can't afford to deal with it), and bring manufacturing jobs back to the US so we can stop exporting weapons we make into the hands of ISIS and other undesirables.
Trump wants to do all that. Bernie isn't all bad, but when he starts talking about "free college" "basic income", "$15 minimum wage", more regulations for businesses" you should really just stop paying attention. Our Federal Government was meant to be small and weak.
>>24562589
Excellent said, anon. If what you say is true, then you have probably sold Trumps politics to me better than Trump would have done himself, but maybe my problem with him is more of a problem with American politics in general.
However, as I assume, the lack of regulations are working based on the premise that less ethical companies would have their income source change to another company, but is that all that easy when bribes, lobbying and ignorant customers are all things still?
Also, if the US gets back their outsourced blue-collar jobs, would you say that decreasing the relative price of college to what it used to be is beneficial, as the incentive of going there wouldn't be that profound compared to the current situation, and in turn could decrease degree inflation? Not to mention the amount of "useless" degrees.
>>24562362
No state would have any advantage. Each individual would have equal say, regardless of where they live. Simple as that.
The electoral college gives someone in Bumfuck, South Dakota more influence than someone in New York. How is that fair?
>>24562752
>maybe my problem with him is more of a problem with American politics in general.
One of the reasons Trump is so popular is because he isn't afraid to talk about how corrupt politics and the political media are in our country. He loves to talk about how the press will lie at his speeches. He'll mention how the cameras will never zoom out and show his gigantic crowds (He actually started using bleachers behind him to help avert this) or how two of the people will be hecklers while the media will treat that as a "protest". He also speaks out against lobbyists and Super PACs (Basically groups who can give politicians more than the I think $1000 individual donation limit) all the time as well.
>However, as I assume, the lack of regulations are working based on the premise that less ethical companies would have their income source change to another company, but is that all that easy when bribes, lobbying and ignorant customers are all things still?
I haven't read any of Trump's books yet, so I don't know what his plans are for what regulations worth keeping and which ones need to go. I can't really comment on it. I don't believe he's one of those people who wants no regulation what-so-ever though.
>Also, if the US gets back their outsourced blue-collar jobs, would you say that decreasing the relative price of college to what it used to be is beneficial, as the incentive of going there wouldn't be that profound compared to the current situation, and in turn could decrease degree inflation? Not to mention the amount of "useless" degrees.
I don't see what downside there'd be to having a choice between labor and higher education. Many people just aren't cut out for college, so why have them live in poverty when they could be producing goods and services? Everyone can have a decent job in that situation, even high school drop outs.
Sorry Pedro but you've got to go
>>24555314
>>24557627
>the redditors ACTUALLY BELIEVE that Bernie is winning
He will lose in at least 47/50 states. I guarantee you that.
>>24562820
>No state would have any advantage.
States with large populations would have a massive advantage over smaller states since they'd have far more representation. Why should a few suburbs in California have the same voting power as the entire state of Montana?
>Each individual would have equal say, regardless of where they live. Simple as that.
And that's why it's unfair. California and New York alone have 13% of the entire US population.
You seem to forget the US is a republic, not a direct democracy.
>The electoral college gives someone in Bumfuck, South Dakota more influence than someone in New York. How is that fair?
How are a handful of cities controlling the rest of the country fair?
>>24556706
Sorry, Randlet is too short to be president
Is Bobby Jindal not running? I thought he was.
i just want a president who bashes everything and doesnt care about lack of decency. i want to turn on the television and see europe and niggers getting btfo on a daily basis. i want a president who stops pretending to be a good person because that fake attitude pisses me off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fdjHjzvZoI
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>>24562938
>How are a handful of cities controlling the rest of the country fair?
Because more people live there. Duh.
>>24555181
You mean a man with an actual backbone who will get things done is going to be the next President? God Bless America, maybe that shit Nation has a chance after all.
>>24563014
Again, you know the US is a republic and not a direct democracy, right?
There are very good reasons direct democracies aren't used at the national level.
Please go read up on the intent of The Framers when they wrote The Constitution.
tfw the dollar crashing will mean my roadtrip across the USA will be alot cheaper. Fucking nice
>>24555181
He'll be a good president, for those who wants war.
>>24563062
You mean like the last two presidents? fucking idiot. Trump is someone who wants to make money, not squander it. If he goes to war it will be profitable. Most likely he will shill his Country and build infrastructure in the US of A.
>>24562385
you do know that European economies are goin better than yours? How would changing a crappy system to a better be bad for the country?
>>24563037
>Again, you know the US is a republic and not a direct democracy, right?
I'm aware. Do you know what a republic is? Let me explain.
In a REPublic the citizens vote for a REPresentative. A direct election does not equate to a direct democracy. A direct democracy would be if the citizens voted on all laws directly, which I'm clearly not suggesting.
>>24563107
The President is the figure head of the nation and is meant to represent the peoples' interests, not just the most popular interests. The number of represenitives in Congress is based on population size as well, so California still has far more say than Montana, but the point is that if it were based on direct voting, Montana would be completely neglible and have no real representation what-so-ever. The system is meant to protect the interests of everyone, not just highly populated areas.
/r9k/ is getting infected with more and more SJWs
>>24563163
>implying the president only protects the interests of those who voted for him.
That's not how this works.
>>24563230
>Missing the point that hard
>>24563163
You're not going to want to hear this and God knows that it would be political suicide for the President to say this, but the fact is, Montana shouldn't really have that much of a say. Sorry, but you have a tiny population and your GDP is 49th/50. You don't contribute that much so that's why the rest of the country doesn't really care about what you have to say.
Looking up the clip, I don't think he was mocking the guy for being a spastic, I think he was just trying to do a general retard, moron impression, I doubt he even knew the guy was disabled.
He's still a total fucking moron though.Anyone else want Trump to win just so we can have something intresing to watch for the next 4 years as he spirals into more and more stupid shit, fucking up major all the way?
I'm UK though.
>>24563315
>but the fact is, Montana shouldn't really have that much of a say.
Then make a constitutional ammendment saying that isn't the case. As far as the law is concerned it absolutely is. Please go learn about the founding of the US, especially what the founding fathers themselves thought. I'm being serious about that too.
>Sorry, but you have a tiny population and your GDP is 49th/50.
I'm not from Montana. I used it because it's the least populated continental state.
>You don't contribute that much so that's why the rest of the country doesn't really care about what you have to say.
Again, The Constitution trumps your feelings. If you would actually look into why we have an electoral college you'd realize why it's a good thing.
>>24563346
The only reason you think Trump is a moron is because you haven't looked into him more. If everything you know about Trump came from the media then it's no wonder why you think he's a moron.
>>24563346
Na he did it on purpose but he made sure to have plausible deniability to cover himself. It's revenge for the hit job articles the new york times has been writing about him.
>>24563365
>learn about the founding of the US, especially what the founding fathers themselves thought.
They were smart guys, many of them geniuses even, but they got some stuff wrong and some of their ideas are outdated. They lived well over 200 years ago and the world has changed dramatically since then.
>I'm not from Montana.
I don't care. You should realize that my point is, less populated states contribute less, and therefore matter less.
> If you would actually look into why we have an electoral college you'd realize why it's a good thing.
I have and I don't think that it is. See above to understand why.
>>24563380
I just watched a grown man do a retard impersonation on live television whilst running for president of the USA.
>>24563438
>Someone does something retarded, therefore everything they do is retarded!
So I guess you're equally as retarded because you made an ignorant post.
>>24557186
wow
lay off the speed, it's not good for you, and it makes you paranoid mate.
>>24563414
>You should realize that my point is, less populated states contribute less, and therefore matter less.
Poors contribute nothing. Maybe we shouldn't let them vote?
>>24563454
I know you are, but what am I? Hmm?
![Alexander_Hamilton[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Q1WB6yP.jpg "Alexander_Hamilton[1].jpg")
>>24563477
>It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
Pic related thinks you're too stupid to make a rational decision. Your tiny brain doesn't have the capacity for complicated investigations. Better have someone else do it for you.
>>24563414
>They were smart guys, many of them geniuses even, but they got some stuff wrong and some of their ideas are outdated. They lived well over 200 years ago and the world has changed dramatically since then.
Which is why they left a system in place that allows the laws to change with the times. That's what "amendments" are.
>I don't care. You should realize that my point is, less populated states contribute less, and therefore matter less.
They already do matter less. Pic related.
>>24563438
Get a sense of humour faggot or it's time to join tumblr.
>>24563569
It's more about him doing it whilst not realising how much the media will spin it on him. Not muh feefees.You'd have realised that if you didn't have super auts, anon.
>>24563557
>Which is why they left a system in place that allows the laws to change with the times
Great. Let's eliminate this shitty, unnecessary institution.
>They already do matter less
The problem is, the individual in South Dakota has more voting power than the individual in Texas, due to the electoral college. Every vote should count equally, not some more than others.
>>24556575
rand paul tbqhmf
it's way too soon to tell to be honest family
>>24563954
OOGA BOOGA BIX NOOD DEM MUFFIGGN PROGRAMZ N SHEET WARE DA WITE WIMMIN AT SON
literally why care about politics when killing yourself is so easy
why care about advancements or downfalls
when it's so easy to just kill yourself
>>24556863
People underestimate how popular Trump is with Blacks and Hispanics. There are plenty of Mexican Americans who wholeheartedly support Trump. Believe it or not, being in favor of a secure border is not a racial issue. It's an American issue.
>candidates are jokes in both the US and the UK
>parties in general are no better
>hypocrisy, corruption, pandering, muh feelings are ubiquitous throughout the political system
>it's never going to change in any meaningful way
>realised this a long time ago
>politically apathetic for nearly a decade
>whatever happens happens and I just try to make the best of it
>>24557294
I truly believe that an incorruptible buffoon would be a far better POTUS than a piece of shit lying demagogue who's bought and paid for by big business.
But that's just my uneducated opinion.
>>24564164
>trump
>incorruptible
Trump was quite cozy with the Mafia in his early business days. I don't think the political establishment can control him, but the corporate establishment is another story. I wouldn't put it past him to use his newfound political power make an easy buck for himself or his buddies.
>>24564164
he cant be corrupted by big business because he IS big business. Good point
>>24562310
>consistency means saying things
I mean he hasn't done anything to show he cares other than speaking.
>right, because it's only build wall and deport Mexicans
>intellectual Democrat
I'm a moderate. Sensationalism is happening on both sides. Illegals are not something to get riled up about. The most conservative esimates say they cost 100 billion a year. Save a 100 billion a year, that's nice, ignoring all the problems of mass deportation. More low skilled, low wage jobs from China? Alright. A one time reparation of 200 billion? That's pretty small considering we spend trillions a year, but sure that's nice. Get rid of the death tax so Americans pass on their hard earned money? Assests under 5 million aren't taxed already Half of Americans wouldn't be taxed? ~45% already don't. I could go on. No candiates policies' are magic bullets, which is why they have to put a much more exciting "us vs them" spin on it. People who strongly support candiates are retards. What practically every president has done is to amplify or reduce certain previous legislations' effects. 50% of the shit they promise is already done, 40% is done to some extent and 10% would never make it through Congress.
Do you know what the other candidate's policies are?
>>24564480
>A one time reparation of 200 billion? That's pretty small considering we spend trillions a year
The fact you state this as if that isn't an issue itself is pretty sad.
>People seriously believe Dumpy Trump will be President
It'll either be Hilliary "Wow its fucking nothing" Clinton or Bernie "Pass the blunt" Sanders.
>>24564564
What makes you think it won't be Trump when he has more followers than the news networks have viewers/readers?
Stupid americans. Your votes don't matter.
All the candidates with no exception are actors. Not in a figurative sense, but in a literal sense.
They are actors playing fictitious characters.
In America you need ID to rent a movie, but not to run for office. Go check the legislation yourself american cvckolds.
>>24556355
This board is for people ages 18 and up, please leave
>>24565349
>Politics aren't real!
>The illuminati just makes it all fake!
>>24555181
S/O TO ME FOR BEING THERE TO SEE OUR OVERLORD
They honestly didn't tell the whole story, does anybody care enough for me to explain what happened?
>>24565399
Check the legislation if you don't believe me. You do not need ID to run for office in America.
You just need another person to vouch for your identity.
>mfw he still hasn't been stumped
Is there any hope, guys?
