who /slim and effeminate/ here?
>tfw no grill will ever find your girlish hips and thighs attractive
>everybody thinks im a twink, get hit on by gays
>tfw will never make a grill scream with my 8 inch penor
>tfw nice ass and girlish hips
>tfw im a guy
>have been slapped on my ass multiple times by guys
>tfw straight
>>24552542
I want to violate your tiny anus with my penis while stroking yours until you squirt a hot load all over your qt belly.
Post pics of body so I can masturbate to them.
>tfw wide hips
>tfw leg to torso ratio is way off, long legs and short torso
>tfw faggots eye me up
>I make them cry by punching in face
Stop taking birth control pills you baka
>>24552617
This.
And the robot is a cunt.
>tfw when slim hips and wide shoulders
feels nice
>>24552542
You could literally dress up as a girl and have sex with any guy you like ANYTIME and you're complaining about it on here, lol get rekt fag.
>>24552646
but they're in the water supply
>tfw had a long talk with this eccentric gay guy about how hormones are in the water supply and are turning men feminine and making younger girls develop faster
>calls me a bigot when I suggest such hormones are causing gender dysphoria
>>24552683
Except I really couldn't. I'm hairy, over 6 feet tall, have a full beard, and a mean-looking Slav face.
>>24552723
then you arent /effeminate/ m8
>>24552542
I giggle at stupid jokes that guys make..
>>24552745
everything else is
>slim arms and small hands despite strength
>wide hips and feminine butt
>steady layer of subcutaneous fat
>girly voice
>10 posts in a qt boy thread and nobody has posted a pic yet
Literally what is the point.
if you want to help yourself be more masculine, look into taking zinc (read up on its testosterone benefits)
as always, exercise is pretty important
did you know that fat cells cause your estrogen levels to ride through a process known as aromatization? (having excess fat = higher estrogen levels)
broccoli contains aromatase inhibiting properties, but there are also supplements made specifically to block aromatase (be careful, they can cause aggression)
sunshine is also a healthy way to ensure T levels stay high
Enjoy manhood, and appreciate being born the superior sex lads
>>24552745
You can be hairy and effeminate.
>>24552542
stfu fag, you obviously want this, if you did even a little bit of fucking weight lifting that shape would disappear, even women who fucking exercise become more manly, you are probably one sick gay fuck because any guy who legitimately had this problem would have began exercising to get rid of it, you are just posting here to attract trapfags quite obviously, go exercise or go fucking kill yourself.
>>24552703
p sure the milk is causing more problems than the water friendo.
>>24552542
I wonder if this is why guys keep hitting on me but girls keep ignore me, it's not like I talk gay or dress day or do anything else that would make people think I'm gay. My body ratios are really fucked up - wide waist, slim body, short body, long legs, adam's apple barely visible. What sucks is when I sit down the shape that my hips will make is very feminine. It's actually given me a sligjt boner a few times.
>>24553121
>>24552542
Yet you guys won't even think of exercising or bulking up, seriously?. I live with my bro right now and I'm basically a slob (pouch belly) and he bulked up in a few weeks by eating oats regularly (its has lots of protein), no fucking joke, a little weight lifting, some pushups and fucking oats, I'm gonna start soon when on vacation, you have no excuse.
>>24552578
This but I got my ass slapped by girls mostly. Kinda turns me on desu
>>24553182
>broke
>can't afford food
>lifting weights would make me lose more weight
>already have a physical labor job and have hard enough time recovering from that, let alone muh lifting meme
>>24553234
>can't afford food
I'm pretty sure you ate today so stfu, oats is like one of the cheapest things you can buy.
>lifting weights would make me lose more weight
Nope, overdoing it would make you lose weight, that's what I did once and its the reason why I stopped the last time, realized later i was doing it all wrong and fucking myself up
>already have a physical labor job and have hard enough time recovering from that, let alone muh lifting meme
Filing papers isn't physical labor kek, if you already have such a job then you wouldn't have a female body, you'd look somewhat masculine already.
>>24553301
>i know your life because one time in my life I did something
>your body and lifestyle are susceptible to the exact same changes of cause and effect as mine
>hurr durr holy shit im a fucking retard
>>24552542
I look pretty much like your pic OP. I've started wearing skinny jeans and tight tops to show off my wide hips, big ass and thin waist. Got a few slaps on my butt but nothing more. I want a bf who has the same figure.
A-also bought some girl clothes.
>>24553352
>dances around that anon's points
>doesn't give any specifics on his job
What do you do for your "physical labor?"
>>24552578
>>24552621
>>24552783
>only people you might attract are fags
life isnt fair la.ds
>don't excersise
>Eat trash food like chips, dip and beer
>drink every single day
>tfw 6' 180lbs
>blue eyes
>six pack somehow
Thanks chad dad I've never seen. Too bad you never taught me how to not be autistic.
I get hit on by girls but, I've never even held hands with one at 23. I know that my crazy man thoughts will never be something they want to live with.
I actually get hit on mostly by older women, like in their 30s.
>>24553352
>your body and lifestyle are susceptible to the exact same changes of cause and effect as mine
Unaware that there are known methods that have a universal effect for all humans, by your retard logic heroine would somehow not get you high, you body is susceptible to the same changes moron, are you a different species or something, the rate of effect would be different but the effect would be the same, go research biology (better yet common sense)
>5'8"
>skinnyfat
>narrow shoulders
>pseudo gyno
>narrow waist
>chubby thighs and a cute round fuckable ass
>no bf, kissless virgin
>tfw never going to have a slim and effeminate looking bf with girlish hips
>>24553447
>fuckable ass
>Male
pick one faggot, pick one.
>>24553470
I don't know Anon, I've seen more than my share of fuckable boybutts
>>24553494
>I don't know Anon, I've seen more than my share of fuckable boybutts
Nah that's just you being a fag, its the equivalent of a necrophile saying - "I've seen more than my share of dead fuckable butts", that shit isn't fuckable, you're just so mentally fucked up that your standards are in the trash, you can't even compare a man's ass to a womans, its usually more hairy, harder, smaller, less bouncy, the part that shows me how gays are in denial is that the MORE FEMININE a man is the more attracted to the male they usually are, but that doesn't make ANY FUCKING SENSE LOGICALLY, because;
1. If being gay is an attraction to MALES then you should be attracted to MASCULINITY, so why do you guys spend your time chasing after twinks (thin feminine men)
2. calling man ass "boy pucci" (substituting female sex organ for ass for no reason, because if you're gay you should just like man ass)
3. Attributing female shapes and mannerisms to "being attractive" (for example OP - >>24552542, which again makes no fucking sense since you should be attracted to men)
4. etc
You guys are psychologically cross-wired and in denial, every word and action you make shows this and yet it isn't obvious to you baka. If you actually were attracted to men then YOUD BE ATTRACTED TO MEN, not a man WHO LOOKS AS CLOSEST TO A WOMAN AS POSSIBLE, you guys a literally pussy hunting like the rest of us but with dudes, you can't even fight your inner maleness all the while telling yourself you're gay. Why don't I see any threads about wanting hard man ass, and muscular built bodies, actual masculine characteristics...................exactly, go get help, you guys aren't gay, gay is a psychological disorder, you weren't born this way.
im skinny and have been mistaken for being 5-6 years younger than i am. whatever. i don't want to be a fatass and i'm too lazy to lift so i just deal with it. high schoolers hit on me but no chicks my age do :)
>>24553766
You just haven't been looking at enough mens' asses.
>be twinky guy
>go to gym, end up getting athletic body type
>crossplay at anime cons
>get qt cosplay grills to fuck me while I'm a grill
Living those futa dreams boys.
>>24553843
>You just haven't been looking at enough mens' asses.
This is man ass: http://i.imgur.com/j9uPv.jpg
You literally proved my point with that webem, you guys are literally choosing men with feminine features, how you can't put two and two together is baffling, you put a shaved feminine looking ass and say that's a man ass, it isn't really, its a man who eats and does shit to have an ass like a woman, you are making my case for me, men in general don't have an ass like that, and his ass isn't even really like a womans, its more toned, you can tell the difference, the man ass in the pic I sent is the more typical male ass, I don't even exercise much and my ass is toned almost like that, you guys are chasing guys with too much eostrogen and some of them probably taking hormones.
Can you at least answer this question, why is it that you guys claim you are gay, but the only men you are really attracted to ARE THE MEN WHO LOOK MOST LIKE WOMEN PHYSICALLY. It makes no fucking sense, that would be like me saying I'm straight and I like women, but I date exclusively body builders that look like this: https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/article_assets/3342/original/Man-Face.jpg?ts=1438804932
Its pure denial, a perfect case of it.
>>24553971
you're mentally retarded
kek
>>24553843
>tfw lost 13kg since this
>ass has turned more boxy
>>24554000
You're either a roastie looking for attention which is pathetic, or a transexual FREAK with a mental disorder which is worse.
>>24554008
>you're mentally retarded
Coming from a faggot whose existence goes against his brains biological imperatives, I think i'll take that assessment with grain of salt kek.
>>24552542
>Slim and effeminate
Literally top tier men imo. Every time I fall for a qt he ends up being gay. EVERY TIME. It doesn't help that I also like /fa/ men.
Where are the well dressed twinky fuccbois that like girls?
>>24554084
>Where are the well dressed twinky fuccbois that like girls?Right here senpai
>>24554084
>being female
your gender is literally a meme
you should just transition
>>24554125
But I don't want to be a man??
>>24554116
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>>24554167
>L O C A T I O N
West Philadelphia
>>24554167
midwest hereee
>>24552542
All of you trapfags should probably kill yourself.........
>>24554084
I'm a 5'1" tranny that looks like an underage boy with tits. Is that good enough for you?
>>24554187
born and raised
I've made a girl jealous of my ass.
It's too round.
>>24554211
>tits
Too much fem
>>24554187
>>24554195
As usual too far. Just know that somewhere out there, there's a loser neet femanon that would probably fug you desu
>>24554270
I'm
>>24554211
And I do, I'm finally A cup after a year of being only AA
>>24554277
>Just know that somewhere out there, there's a loser neet femanon that would probably fug you
Somehow, I doubt thats a good thing
>>24554277
Were are you from senpai?
FUCK OFF STUPID BITCHES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>24554342
>tfw no dirty fujoshi gf
>>24554398
>>24554331
Oops, accidentally quoted wrong post on this shitty tablet
>>24554412
damn
need to stop getting my hopes up
>>24552853
>superior sex
I wish I was born female
I know a girl at work who just wants a trap bf.
>tfw not effeminate enough to be girly
>tfw not masculine enough to be manly
>>24554342
oh my fucking god
OP here, my first gf was a grill like that, typical femanon
she was ashamed to be seen with me and now she's a sjw slut
>tfw no fujoshi gf to put stuff up my butt
post boipucci op
>Wide shoulders and narrow hips
>Will never look as feminine as I would like to be
Thanks genetics.
>tfw faggot mods deleting my posts
I only want a qt3.14 gf with a shota fetish to be perfect for ;_;
>>24554508
>mods keep deleting posts
But why?
Hey janny, I was trying to get a bf here. Since when was bp posting a bannable offence?
>>24554681
So she shit posted on 4chan?
>>24554776
Mods are jealous and emasculated that girls find traps attractive and not them baka
>tfw often mistaken for a girl from behind
>tfw once had a guy grab my ass at a concert and look disgusted once he realized i was a dude
>tfw not even gay
>>24554823
Be my straight boyfriend.
>>24552646
W-Would birth control pills really make a boys hips and stuff girlier?
I need to know... b-because reasons.
>>24554849
If you're young enough, it will have some change but really just get estrogen if you're going that far.
>>24554823
>tfw often mistaken for a girl from behind
>once
normie, rreeeeeeeee
>>24554849
You're better off ordering tranny hrt, might make you grow tiny boobs or make your skin smoother, but real hrt is the only thing that will male you significantly girlier.
>>24554881
unfortunately hrt won't fix my wide broad shoulders and strong jaw
fuck genetics
>tfw despite having effeminate body I screwed a girl like a Chad once
Best forceful sex ever
>>24554084
Where are the cute girls that like well dressed twinky fuccbois?
>>24554843
No
>>24554869
I'm not sure what you mean.I'm a virgin, too.
>>24554881
>male
kek'd
>>24554862
>>24554881
I'm still young enough but I don't want shitty puffy nipple itty bitty hrt mosquitoes bite titties, I just want bigger hips and a smaller waist mostly.
>>24555027
Well, whatever you think is best anon. Can't really get 2/3, its all or nothing.
>>24555027
flat chest is justice by the way
>>>24554681 (You)
>So she shit posted on 4chan?
yeah I ran into her on a /r9k/ omegle chat
![[AE] Akatsuki no Yona - 19 [720p].mp4-00002.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aK1aHCC.jpg "[AE] Akatsuki no Yona - 19 [720p].mp4-00002.jpg")
>>24554823
When I was in high school I used to get groped in the stairwell by perverts. I wore my hair long so that didn't help either I suppose. I used to hate it so much.
>>24555027
All or nothing senpai, just remember that you'll probably be unhappy about something either way but if you miss the chance, it's gone.
>>24555050
Well what does birth control do that's different from hrt? I don't like the idea of loosing the ability to have children or in some cases even loose the ability to get an erection that comes from hrt. I want to try and research some more stuff on hip growth....
>>24555087
and now you probably masturbate to the memory of it kek
>>24555093
the "broken dick" shit from HRT is mostly a myth though it is true in a sense
the random boners you get throughout the day and during the night are a way of keeping your dick from atrophying, and testosterone is the thing that triggers this. All you have to do to keep dick functionality is get decently frequent boners and wack it a decent bit, but your body won't do this automatically.
>apparently have a nice ass as a guy
>have had a girl squeeze my ass as I was walking upstairs in highschool
>wore pink vans and drank from a water fountain
>guy squeezed my ass and smiled at me
I was about to punch him in the face but I decided not to. Just a few minutes ago, I looked at my ass at a mirror when putting my underwear on.
![[AE] Akatsuki no Yona - 05 [720p].mp4-00001.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b2aY7Q4.jpg "[AE] Akatsuki no Yona - 05 [720p].mp4-00001.jpg")
>>24555120
No I just take advantage of my small frame now. I really hated getting my ass grabbed. It felt violating. It felt really weird to be "desired" and fucked with my head a bit. It made me afraid of people bigger than me. I genuinely feel for girls that get upset by shit like that because it's a scary feeling.
>>24555027
it won't give you hips, but squats and biking will help you lose weight and give you the finest ass around. That's almost as good
>>24552578
>tfw i used to get my ass grabbed by stacies in highschool
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>>24555241
they were fantasizing about it getting fucked by chad and tyrone
>>24554970
>I'm not sure what you mean. I'm a virgin, too.
yeah, meant that it's not a big deal to be mistaken for a grill once
try every other day
>>24555121
>>24555210
I might just have to do all those exercises and stuff. I've already researched that a bunch so I know what I'm doing, but I was hoping there was some sort of supplement or something out there to help me out.
You see, I know it's not feasible for me to transition into a girl, my family would never accept it, I could probably never accept myself, all sorts of things. I just want to at least be able to crossdress into the biggest qt I can while I'm still young.
If I go on hrt, that could really fuck me up, and I also really want to have children later in life, so I'm not really up for it. Maybe I just want to have my cake an eat it too, dress up and pose as a cute girl for a few years, and then live a respectable family life later on..... But god damnit I'm going to do my best, I only turned 18 a little bit ago, there's still a chance.
/shitblog
>>24555296
I don't know the process but there are ways to save your sperm for later.
>>24555260
>once
But that's not what i said.
I can empathize though. At the very least i hope you like men.
>>24554823
>mfw I thought it was my posture
>doctor straight up tells me i just have a feminine butt
JUST
The only upside to this is that I once jacked off to my reflection when I was wearing panties. (but that was the super-horny teenage years)
>>24555338
Somehow I skipped a line reading that post.
>>24552542
you lads are okay, just be positive, lol jk. Just find a gentle femdom who will never leave you
I had sex with a guy who had fairly wide hips. Shit hurt like hell and honestly super unattractive when clothes are off
>>24555296
>>24555329
Actually now that I think about it, if there was a way for me to preserve my genitals from getting fucked up by girl hormones so that I could, hypothetically, stop taking them one day and my testicles would still produce sperm and the required amount of test to keep me alive and healthy naturally.... I'd do the hrt.
I just don't like the idea of being on pills for the rest of my life and that if I stop taking them my endocrine system dies.
I also don't want to start having my face look 'faggy' or anything, I want to be able to dress up like a guy when I meet my family and do professional stuff and not have everyone look at me and think I'm a turbofag.
Maybe I'm just retarded.
>>24555454
>I also don't want to start having my face look 'faggy' or anything,
It's inevitable though.
>I want to be able to dress up like a guy when I meet my family and do professional stuff and not have everyone look at me and think I'm a turbofag.
If you already look effeminate it will be impossible to hide especially as fat moves to your already wide hips. Also, how tall are you? If you're short like me, it will just make it harder to hide it. Soft facial features are nails in the coffin.
>>24555454
maybe you should be posting your tranny shit blog on lgbt where they might know about hormones or something instead of shitting up the place here you cunt
>>24555454
You're not, unless I am too. I'm 18 as well and have been going back and forth over whether or not to take hormones just for boy mode, but with the possibility of having breasts it's scary.
>>24553843
gross desu
btw i'm gay
>>24554076
stop calling people faggots desu
i'm a masculine homo man who's attracted to homo men not twinks
>>24555495
>It's inevitable though.
:s
I could stand being a cute girl, but a guy with an effeminate face looks weird or creepy instead of cute 95% of the time, especially one resulting from hormones....
>Also, how tall are you?
I'm actually 5'11.5''........ However! My legs are pretty long. Heel to widest part of hip bone is 3ft 8inch. When I lift my leg up (standing) my knee goes above my shoulder.
I just want wide(er) hips....
>>24555525
Seriously thinking about studying some endocronology or something to learn about how this works more. I mean, I figure that female hormones would travel through your body telling different parts of your body to do different things, but at some step, it has to become more specific... Like, when the estrogen gets to the hips, it must be converted into some other intermediate chemical which causes hip growth, rather than being the only thing which does it. So I figure if I could isolate whatever those extra intermediate chemicals are, then I could get qt hips without the puffy nips.
>>24555517
gomen
>>24552542
Post fucking pics
>>24555669
>Like, when the estrogen gets to the hips, it must be converted into some other intermediate chemical which causes hip growth, rather than being the only thing which does it.
That's literally the worst understanding of how hormones work I've seen all year.
>>24555669
>I could stand being a cute girl, but a guy with an effeminate face looks weird or creepy instead of cute 95% of the time, especially one resulting from hormones....
it's pretty awesome desu senpai
>I'm actually 5'11.5''
That sucks. I lucked out being 5'4"
>but at some step, it has to become more specific... Like, when the estrogen gets to the hips, it must be converted into some other intermediate chemical which causes hip growth, rather than being the only thing which does it. So I figure if I could isolate whatever those extra intermediate chemicals are, then I could get qt hips without the puffy nips.
To put it simply, your hormones act as blueprints of sorts for your body and its metabolism. It dictates where best to store fat (in the case of females, a layer of adipose tissue below the skin which is why girl skin is soft, and the hips and thighs as the whole uterine area is of the utmost importance to protect and insulate). Man fat is stored in a way to best facilitate rigorous activity without being in the way. Basically, once you get estrogen, your liver metabolizes it down and it travels to the rest of your body all over. Getting actual hip bone growth isn't likely unless you're still in puberty (like early in it, not the very end) so the best you can do is rely on fat.
>>24552783
Post pics babyfat QT
Do it for the fagbots out of the goodness of your heart
>>24552542
I thought I was the only one
There are obscure feels OP
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>>24552542
Shut the kuck up, OP. Nobody cares about your slutty twink body.
>>24555747
not OP but here you go
My bf says I look feminine but I only half-believe him. He even thought I took hormones.
>briefly contemplate posting a picture because I fit the description
>realize everyone in here is fucking gay
>hide thread
>>24552542
You're skinnyfat
Textbook skinnyfat
>>24555754
How does it work then mr. science man jeez, there must be some way to specifically target certain areas
>>24555772
5'4'' huh? I bet you're a super qt, most people probably can't even tell you're secretly a guy! :3
I don't really know what I want anymore.... I wanted to be a girl when I was younger and... to some extent, still do, but I'm too much of a realist, and I don't want to be a hon, social outcast, shunned by family, worse career, and reliant on hormones until the day I die just to be a feminine guy. If I could zap into a cute girl immediately I'd do it, but otherwise I just want to do my best at cross dressing while I can.
This is dumb, why wasn't I just born a girl
>>24555980
>there must be some way to specifically target certain areas
There isn't.
>>24556001
:s whatta da fugg man
Is there at least a way I can keep my genitals safe and/or prevent breast growth if I go on hrt?
>>24556055
>keep genitals safe
see >>24555121
>prevent breast growth
genetics
When I was still thin I had quite large, childbearing hips.
My shoulders are broad and my hands are huge so it balances out.
>>24552542
change what you wear and you'll attract hipster girls then, don't complain about being skinny when there's fat fucks out there
>>24555980
>you were born too early for genetic therapy
I know. I'll just freeze myself. That's what I'll do. I'll freeze myself until it's the future and I can be the little girl and universal basic income and virtual reality and anti aging and everything will be great forever. I won't just die an ugly miserable wageslave pleb, nonono.
>>24556120
that's just about the peen though, what about the dangly bits?
In a perfect world I'd transition into a grill, but that's just not going to work for me, so I want to cross dress and be super feminine for a few years before I resign myself to regular manhood and I don't want to have to take hormone supplements for the rest of my life.
>FtM (after puberty)
>5/10 woman to 7/10 man
>MtF (after puberty)
>5/10 male to 2/10 woman
it's not fair...
>>24556184
>dangly bits
freeze some syrup
now you have no worries when you inevitably go infertile
hormones are all or nothing, no going back and they only work well when you're youngish or have been on them since you were youngish
>>24556163
>be transexual
>transition
>become freak of nature
>kill self
>be transexual
>repress and become super rich by working hard through dedication
>buy perfect eternal robot loli body when old and live forever as the number 1 qt in the world
>>24556205
How young is youngish?
Is mid-20s manly man a lost cause or is there hope?
>>24556205
Even if I become super cute now for a few years, I'll just end up gross once I get older. Aging is horrible for women, but even worse for mtfs and I've already missed 18 years of prime girlhood. Is it worth it? I could have a successful prestigious life as a guy all the way until I'm 50 or even sixty. God damn, if only I was just born super masculine so I could know that transitioning would never be an option or super feminine so I knew I'd never amount to much as a guy.
>be gaybot with girly ass/thighs
>act somewhat effeminately
>multiple guy friends have slapped and grabbed my ass among other joking around
>one friend flat out told me that from the waist down I look like a girl
>I've never dated a guy and am still a virgin
>mfw
>>24556227
When you think it's obvious that this stuff is coming. Not what you posted but the medical industry is serious business and it's making rapid advances. Within a generation or two we'll have pills to grow you a new set of teeth when yours go bad, pills to finally grow manlets a few inches taller, pills for fatasses to eat all they want and just pass the calories without storing them, pills for people to actually transition and not the hackjobs we have today. A utopia of people that look however they want to unburdened by genetics.
And you'll die 50 years before it comes.
>>24556348
manlets will finally learn?
>>24556380
A new world, a world without manlets where men are either 6'6 megachads or 5'4 sissyfags and every one of them by choice.
>>24556289
depends on genetics
if you do by age 16 it's 95% guaranteed that you'll be fine
it generally slopes down from there, about 80% at 18, 50% at 20, 30% at 24, etc
generally, the older the worse the chances, the younger the better the chances
>>24556315
such is the struggle of trannies everywhere
generally, you just have to guess, will your sadness be too much to make you unable to amount to anything? or can you go on repressing? will you just end up blowing your brains out either way? It's hard to get someone else to guess for you if they haven't known you all your life
by the way, aging isn't particularly worse for mtfs, they're just on average not as attractive so seem to age worse
>tall
>skinny
>wide hips
>wristlet
JUST END ME
>>24556432
Dang, I guess I'll just keep being a regular fag then since I don't really have the talent to graduate to turbofag.
>>24552542
I pretty much look EXACTLY like that and I've been trying to eat more protein/lean/workout/gym for like 4 months now
Starting to get really pissed off at this point, not even a fag...depression is just giving my retarded fucking body the wrong signals
>>24552853
Thank you for this post, gonna eat a fucking lot of broccoli and take zinc.
Sick of this estrogen bullshit in everything
>>24556491
can we switch?
>>24552542
Thing is all fat goes right into my ass. You know something's wrong with you when you can look at your own ass and go "nice":
>>24556432
>will you just end up blowing your brains out either way?
This was what decided it for me when I started. I was pretty sure I'd an hero if I didn't do something about it, and would too if I ended up a freak. But on that like 2% chance I do make it? Its worth trying. I still can't tell if I'll make it but being on for months is giving me hope with small changes.
>>24556432
>generally, you just have to guess, will your sadness be too much to make you unable to amount to anything? or can you go on repressing? will you just end up blowing your brains out either way?
I've been asking myself this question seriously for a few years now friend... When I figure it out I'll tell you.
>>24556577
I feel the same way man, you have to live one day a time. It's not like I wasn't before and wouldn't have in the future.
>>24556594
If it's been a "few" years, it might be getting to be too late man. Sooner or later you'll have to decide or you'll notice the opportunity slipped right out from under you and you lose the choice.
>>24556759
>If it's been a "few" years, it might be getting to be too late man. Sooner or later you'll have to decide or you'll notice the opportunity slipped right out from under you and you lose the choice.
>tfw you will never be born into an accepting family and area in some liberal bubble on the west coast and start transitioning at 11
I'm still only 18 I guess so there's a chance....
I just... I don't know, I have other things going for me besides for this, I'm on the pathway to having a good career, I could secure myself a life as a rich, successful, respected man with a house, a wife, and kids. If I was just some NEET I'd transition already, but there's so much I could loose by doing this.... would I really be happier being a freak, rejected by society, if I feel more like the girl I wish I could be?
>>24556876
all questions that only you can answer, senpai
have my story, maybe it'll help you decide
I was also questioning the same things you were for a "few" years while I was young, dived in at 16. I felt that I had nothing to lose, despite the fact that I had college lined up and was regularly called top of the class throughout the entirety of my schooling. In college now, nobody knows, though still a recluse. I'm 100% sure I'm way happier than I would have been had I not done it.
18 is not too late, unless you got really boned by genetics. The clock is ticking, though, and probably uncomfortably fast.
>>24556953
How did you go about the diving in? Does your family know? Do you present as a girl, or are you just in boy mode?
>>24557051
came out, parents were supportive, therapy -> endo -> hrt -> girlmode
>>24557074
dude, how fucked up and surreal is it? i couldn't cope with that shit. i'd feel like a freak and living fetish and hate myself if i went through with it. i associate femininity with weakness and i would feel fucked up willingly doing that to myself. not to mention all of the social consequences.
>>24557074
Oh wow, and noone at college even notices you were originally a boy... I guess it'd be easier if parents were supportive. I can't really expect support from anyone in family except for my mother, but only begrudgingly. What was it like during the past few years at high school after you came out? Thanks for talking to me about this.
>>24557128
Talk to a therapist, this really isn't something we can for sure decide for you. You need a professional to help you know whats going on in your head, that'll help see what path you take in the future.
>have girly body since kid
>get picked on a lot because I was scrawny
>started lifting at 14
>still got that hourglass but more muscular figure and I'm 20 now
>>24557128
in the family, it's really not that strange at all. My parents were always rather quiet, never really interfering or checking in to much to see what I was doing, and I liked it that way. I've always had an aversion to people watching what I'm doing.
As for out and about, it is rather surreal because the way people treat me now is completely disconnected from the way I've been treated throughout the rest of my life
>>24557155
I guess I was a bit lucky/unlucky because another tranny had recently graduated. Don't tell anyone, but I was honestly incredibly embarrassed seeing them because they didn't pass and were 6'1 and manly faced by senior year because they were a bit late, but people were somewhat supportive of them anyways. When I came out, I was a lot girlier (and shorter) in the first place, and people didn't really pay much attention to me anyways, so I didn't really get much shit. Most of the people I talked to were also decently acquainted with the other tranny too, so they didn't care at all.
>>24557167
i don't like other people making decisions like that for me or helping me make decisions like that. i am really independent and don't like being told what i am or what i should do. i have a problem with anything like that unless you are to the point where you are being physically violent to other people.
i simultaneously feel disgusted with most women and at the same time i want to be one and the cognitive dissonance is fucked. i also like the hassle-free lifestyle of being a man.
>>24557216
>tfw will probably just end up as the tall, ugly, non-passing, manish tranny
I wish I could have just been born to be a girlish looking guy or be super masculine. It's the idea that I have a small chance but it's super risky which is killing me.
That sounds pretty cool though anon, I had a transsexual at my school too, they were bullied a lot and transferred out and hated by everyone.
>tfw you will never act out your high-school Japanese slice of life animes
>>24557167
Don't do that, you are the last person to decide what's best for you
What'll happen is you'll talk about how you've always felt this way (even if you haven't) and that it's the root of everything wrong in your life (even though it isn't) and they'll send you to an endocrinologist who'll just sign off on HRT like they're signing for a parcel.
6 months down the line you'll feel like a million dollars. Everything is new and exciting and everyone is your best friend and super supportive.
2 years down the line when you've gone from a 4/10 guy to a 2/10 mutant you'll feel the worst you've ever been in your life and now there's no way to fix anything. You'll chase down a bottle of aspirin with a bottle of vodka and become another statistic.
Living in the 'wrong' body is preferable to living in a butchered mess. Just make the most of what you've got, like everybody else in the entirety of our race.
I'm smooth and hairless, not very effeminate though
>>24557367
sit on my face anon-chan
>>24557250
I've had that thought as well, but what little pride I have helps me get over it: Be better than them.
>>24557290
Every tranny wishes they were born as they wanted or too far off to make it an idea, but that's rarely the case. When you're in the middle, it's up to you to decide if it's worth the risk or if it's better to die trying than die regretful (or live and hopefully repress until genetic therapy/body replacement, if or when that comes along)
>>24555871
Share kik please!
all I want is a feminine bf...
>>24557569
just have/adopt a baby
>>24557406
I guess you're right anon... I'll just have to figure it out myself... I guess whether I end up transitioning or not I can dedicate myself to genetic therapy/vr/body/replacement/ect. either way.
This stuff is stressful. *hugs*
>purplemonkeydishwasherrootbearfloat
>>24557617
Whatever you choose, do you best!
>>24557617
It's not like picking a pair of fucking pants. If you have ANY second thoughts then it's not for you.
>>24557719
Thank you! :3
>>24557734
>how dare you have second thoughts when this will isolate you from your entire family, society, careers, relationships, and so on and may not even make you pass
It's not like I'm doubting wanting to be a girl, if I had the option to pick between being a biological woman or man I'd obviously pick a woman.
>watching a FtM diary
>"omg!! I have facial hair!!"
>"omg!! I have a happy trail!!"
>"omg!! I have feet hair!!"
>"omg!! My voice is so deep!!"
what a nutcase
I don't think this thread is about was it was originally about anymore
>>24557969
trannies are techincally slim, effeminate men
it's still somewhat relevant
>>24552578
>>24552542
why don't you dress up like girls and post pics of your ass?
>>24557871
>feet hair
I want to fucking die
>>24552578
post any nudes yet cutie?
Hey guys, am I effeminate?
>>24559064
>arm hair
no
>>24559064
Show your ass please
>>24559064
yeah
your arm hair reminds me of sasha grey <3
>>24559117
You first.beep
>>24558094
Oh man. Mine are way worse, i have literal hobbit feet. Don't worry about that little bit amigo, it's pretty normal
>>24559064
9/10 would legit fugg pls post more
>>24559168
Normal for feminine people though? ;_;
>>24559191
Maybe not for feminine people, but it's still overlook-able.
>>24559183
>tfw long, hair arms.
>>24559222
you're perfect the way you are anoN-chan
locatioon?
>>24559064
You have big nipples...
>>24559222
you aren't supposed to wear skirts that low idiot
>>24559222
I would cum over you.
>>24559277
I bet they're a perfect shade of pink too. I want to see them
>>24559222
Got any butt or penor?
>become qt trap
>cut hair short
>wear flat shoes
>jeans and t-shirt every day
what was the point?!
>>24559281
This. It's supposed to almost be up to your cute, soft, belly button
>>24559222
>tfw feminine fat distribution
>long eyelashes
>weak chin
>gyno
>kinda submissive
>want to be a girl
but
>fucking 6'+
>hairy as a gorilla
>huge feet
>huge hands
>huge head (can't fit regular size helmets on at all and struggle to find ones that fit)
Wish I looked like that.
>>24559325
Give me attention.
>>24559416
You got my attention
blox
>>24559416
Wew lad, fuckable rump/10
>>24559387
>tfw feminine fat distribution
Sometimes it just genetic and not hormonal
>long eyelashes
Most guys actually have longer and thicker eyelashes than women
>weak chin
Not necessarily feminine, probably a result of diet, I bet you have some dental crowding or did right?
>gyno
Lose weight, sometimes shit happens though, as long as it isn't too bad I wouldn't worry about it
>kinda submissive
Aren't we all?
>want to be a girl
Thank the demonization of men for that one.
>>24559416
C-can we see more peen?
>>24559451
are you saying we're being brainwashed to believe that men are monsters?
>>24559451
Yeah, weight loss doesn't really fix it unless I go literal 15BMI skeleton. I was 21BMI last year with regular exercise and still had droopy mantits. Now I have gained weight because didn't give a fuck. It looks worse now though.
>I bet you have some dental crowding or did right?
Not really, no.
>Thank the demonization of men for that one.
Yeah, probably. I'm afraid of doing anything sexual in case I get ridiculed for it or get slapped with a rape charge. This in turn leads to sexual frustration and more and more convoluted fantasies. In my latest one I have redesigned the human body, internally only though, and removed vast majority of intestines. Good faps
>>24559472
But I have disgusting phimosis.
was slimmer me trap potential?
I'm not skinnyfat any more, but it wouldn't take long to get back to that
>>24559416
>>24559222
>>24559064
>>24557367
>>24555871
>>24553843
this thread is cancer for purely heterosexual males (5% minority here)
>>24559550
So? As long as its clean under there don't matter at.
>>24559579
i'd suck your dick and let you fuck my boipussy t bh
>>24552542
>>tfw no grill will ever find your girlish hips and thighs attractive
a man might
>>24559550
Waiting on that peen boi
>>24559579
eehhhh
go back to skinny but first fix your physic
you look a little lopsided
>>24559550
Ha ha ha, I peeled my skin back today for the first time wile it was limp, took me weeks of stretching it a little at a time...
It wasn't a pretty sigth, the head was sensible as fuck, and little white bumps around the edge of the head, just needs regular air and hygene to clear up I guess.
Won't be having sex any time soon anyways...
>6 years till wizzardry
>>24559670
probably scoliosis from a lifetime of slouching
>>24559579
Work on your core and back m8, then a good sun tan.
You look fuckable I guess.
>>24559663
Herebleep
>>24559722
>bleep
What awful lighting, looks like a tasty dick though senpai. Fuggg.
Nothing wrong with being effeminate as long a you aren't a fag.
>>24559754
Just means puberty didn't go well.
By being unhealthy and inactive, I've been taking test boosters for a month now, facial hair grows a bit fuller now lel.
Down side is my acne came back.
>do I have trap potential desu sempai?
>>24559925
I hope that's not actually you, totally normal and unless you got your test levels checked you look within normal range.
>>24559943
Yea that's me...
Taking test boosters has a part of my work out plan, alongside vitamins, creatine and a 5k cal diet, I think I migth of triggered a second puberty due to the increase of facial hair.
Went from 125 lbs to 154 lbs in 8 months.
I fucking know this feel and I hate it.
No girl wants a short feminine guy.
And even if they do, it's that "gentle femdom" cuk bullshit.
I don't want to be super macho or anything, I just want to be taken seriously by grills. Fuck.
On the bright side, at least I'll make for a great Frisk cosplay if I ever go to a con.
So many slimbois/fembois in this ITT.
Y'all should pool your resources and open some sort of gay version of Hooters where all the male waitresses have shapely feminine rumps and wear tight booty shorts.
>>24552542
my bf is super slim--idk about effeminate, he doesn't look like a girl but I actually dig his lil bony bod hahah
I find him extremely attractive
>>24554342
>>24554681
holy shit that exactly my ex-gf
>>24552542
God damn I'm skinny, but not effeminate. I'm really fucking ugly on top of that. So, I couldn't even dress up like a girl and get fucked by a guy when I'm desperate for contact.
>>24560837
Let me guess, you're kinda fat right?
>>24555386
why did it hurt?
>>24552542
I love your body type op
>>24556201
>non-functioning dick
>7/10 man
kek
bumpity bump bump bumpity bump bump
look at anon go
>tfw just liek op,but a bit fat
>tfw when I`m ashamed of it
>tfw when I want to also have the upper body of a woman and a vagina I can use my voluptuosness to make bots happy
>tfw when I realsie how wrong this sounds
