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makeup is fraudulent and manipulative
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>>24494634
so is clothing
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>>24494637
Clothing serves another purpose, makeup doesn't. Makeup is inherently about deceiving people, especially the opposite sex.
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>>24494634
So lie about your height, dick size, wealth, or even worse, giving a shit about them in the first place. So what if it's fraudulent? Two can play that game.
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>>24494646
And what if it does? It matters what it's used for, and it is used for deception
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>>24494634
a huge chunk of women are as ugly as the majority of robots, women are just culturally allowed to cheat and inflate their value. You'd think we benefit from this but actually with the fake inflated value they delude themselves into thinking it's real and they chase after chad.
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think we can meme-market this phenomena as rape somehow?
are there pics like this but with a guy?
i bet i could churn out a few 'screencaps' of 'creepy' guys who 'manipulate and trick' women into thinking they are attractive, who then 'get caught' as being ugly and deceptive SJWs would take the bait
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>>24494634
Yes IMO makeup is one of the reasons our society is so fucked up. Makeup made average girls into fucking beautiful goddesses. There is no real alternative for men. That's why only 5% of men (who are really genetically beautiful & built) are attractive to women the same way an average girl is to an average man. It's fucking with the balance.

If all girls were without makeup like the left one, men wouldn't think about sex 24/7 IMO. It's like sugar. Our lizard brain thinks it's surrounded by incredibly healthy, beautiful, symmetrical and aroused females. That is what makeup does to the appearance of women.

What can a man do? At most he can fake wealth and status.
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>>24494649

In Australia, men have been actually charged with making up shit about their career and status to get into relationships with women.

They will seriously make up laws to charge you with these things, while Stacey is employing every dark art imaginable to destroy your soul.
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>>24494680
But lying is considered amoral by society and you would get ostracized. Makeup is however perfectly accepted by society. The only people I've seen complaining about make up are girls making claims that some other girl is "all fake" as in she wears so much makeup & fake eyelashes and fake finger nails. The undertone was that she was somehow cheating. And this always comes from a female.
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>>24494646
Clothing is designed to hide your dick size.
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>>24494634
How? Unless you're blind you can clearly see she has makeup.
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>>24494634
another example
she looks okay
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>he doesn't like makeup
Why would I not want them to look their best? When it eventually comes off at night I'll be drunk and not wearing my glasses anyways.
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>>24494637
WTF?

elaborate,
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your fault for getting fooled by paint.
most girls look better without makeup, anyway.
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Next you're gonna tell me high heels are fraudulent and manipulative
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I'd call it a miracle.
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>>24494762
It hides poor body physique, scars, deformities

A lot of people can look good in clothing, but terrible when they undress.
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>>24494634
nigga you'd have to be a complete retard to not be able to tell if a girl is caked in makeup.

fuck man, grill in your pic is repulsive both with and without makeup and you can clearly tell her entire face is covered in it. A red flag in any event.
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>>24494733
Feeling a bit uncanny valley in the after.

I don't expect a girl to be flawlessly beautiful without makeup. All I want is a girl who is qt without it and qt with. So many of them it's day and night. But I think it's because we become so accustomed to their made up and 'fake' look that when it all comes off they look so drastically different that it looks ugly. Without the after they would look like cute homely girls.
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>>24494786
me. I used to be super fat, I lost the weight and I look good in clothes but naked I look like I'm melting from all the horrible loose sagging skin and stretch marks.
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>>24494719
It's designed to keep you warm in winter. Not everything is about sex.
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>>24494737
>look their best
If a woman needs to wear a literal mask in order to look halfway attractive, doesn't that imply she is not that attractive to begin with?

pic related, a pretty girl with no makeup on.
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>>24494634
If you can't tell if someone is wearing makeup, you deserve to be manipulated.
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makeup is the reason you are still a virgin. not only are your standards incredibly high from watching all those porn videos featuring "beautiful" attractive females, no, in real life you won't even be able to recognize girls in your league (assuming they don't have high standard as well), because all the makeup makes them look like they're way beyond your reach.

you are getting kecked by paint.
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>>24494810
She has really fucked up eyes. 5/10
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>>24494772
Are you implying they're not? Women wear them explicitly to seem taller than they actually are. How is that not fraudulent?
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>>24494810
>no makeup
shes wearing mascara (look at her eyelashes)
harder to tell but she's also wearing foundation and a few other things
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>>24494828
How are her eyes fucked up? Do you mean the color is bad? Or perhaps you don't like her upward glance? Explain.
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I once lied about being in Med-School to a group of strippers to get an extended lapdance.

I guess that's the male version of makeup.
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>>24494830
They consider you're not stupid enough to be able to comprehend that and take it into account
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>>24494830
Because no one's trying to hide them?
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>>24494637
>so is clothing
I would actually be inclined to agree with you, but it's not a fair comparison. If I wasn't wearing clothes right now I'd be pretty damn cold, they protect your body. Makeup is used for no other purpose but to deceive and actually causes tissue damage.

Apples to oranges.
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>>24494634
Left over Right

>>24494733
Top would be perfectly fine is she didn't mutilate her eyebrows

>>24494768
Shit with and without


Funny thing is that women blame men for them having to wear makeup. It's their own damn fault that they started caking their faces in that shit at a young age, only having to put on more because it's ruining their face.

The cosmetic industry is fucking brilliant in that regard. They literally get women to ruin their faces with their products so they're forced to buy more of it to try and conceal what it did to them.
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>>24494696
bullshit, that doesnt happen
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>>24494810
>No makeup

>Mascara
>Eyeliner
>Lip gloss or naturally pink lips and lip balm
>Most likely some kind of face product

Fucking kek men are so easy to fool. When girls wear 'no makeup' they are actually wearing loads of makeup. It is a million dollar industry selling 'no-makeup makeup' aka, slathering yourself in product but in a skillful and light handed way so you appear as natural as possible. Women hardly ever truly go without makeup.
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>>24494835
>mascara
Now that I look more closely, yes she is. Fair enough.
>foundation and a few other things
Bullshit. You can clearly see the small hairs on her face across her mouth, nose, and cheek. Obviously, nothing is covering them. Her face is just naturally rosy hued.
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>>24494733
another one, same girl
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>>24494634
this is true, it's not even there face desu like guys can go itno drag mode by simply using make up to give themselves the same faces as women
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>>24494646
>>24494859
I see dozens of high school girls walk home when it's 20 degrees with snow everywhere wearing nothing but a skirt or leggings and coat wrapped around their waist. Women don't wear clothes to stay warm, be comfortable, or any other bullshit reason. They simply wear whatever they believe will attract Chad.
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They are literally painting their faces to pretend like they're more beautiful than they are
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>>24494859
I agree, clothing has other purposes as well. That doesn't mean clothes aren't designed to be attractive and hip as well, making people look better than they really do. In that sense, both are used for deception, and complaining about one while ignoring the toher is hypocritical.

Also, consider body wash products, aromated soap, shampoo and conditioner, cologne
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>>24494697
Hopefully they continue this because I want to see this make up shit disappear
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>>24494881

Why is that mole getting darker?
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>>24494868
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11261464/Lied-your-way-into-sex-You-could-be-a-rapist.html

Not the guy above, but there's that.
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Everything in society is manipulative. People lie all the time to seem more successful, smarter and better. Makeup is just like that except easier to see through.
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>>24494875
Ok. Let's say you are absolutely correct. Aren't you confirming the sentiments of the OP? Makeup is indeed fraudulent and manipulative?
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>>24494737
>Look their best
A chemical mask AKA make up isn't a part of them so it's not "looking their best", it's putting on a mask lmao
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>>24494810
>no makeup
pic unrelated?
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>>24494634
whoever did her make up is good. she looks incredible
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Add pushup bras, corsets, spanx, labiaplasty, and wigs to this list.

There's an entire industry designed around helping average women attract Chad, but if I wear a sports cup to make my dick look bigger, I'm a pathetic asshole.

Women wear makeup to compete with each other for attention. They're narcissistic. Don't let anyone fool you
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>>24494835
>she's also wearing foundation
Now you're just making shit up
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>>24494911
Nah I'm not denying it. I don't see anything particularly wrong with wearing a ton of makeup either. Gotta have balance.

For example if a girl wears a full face of makeup a few times a week but also goes bare on the other days then it's not trying to deceive or fake an appearance since people would know what she looks like without it.
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>>24494875
>>Most likely some kind of face product
Such as what?
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>>24494881
its like looking at death
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>>24494881
lmao, her eyebrows look like they're from a fucking N64 character
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>>24494881
both are unbelievably hot
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>>24494881
ayy lmao
wordswordswordswords
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>>24494988
Possibly foundation, possibly concealer. Most likely powder. The right powder is almost impossible to discern and photographs well. Although her face doesn't look too matte which leans more towards the foundation theory. She could very well be wearing BB cream, tinted moisturizer, maybe a light liquid foundation or perhaps it is indeed a powder foundation and she has been wearing it a few hours which allows her natural oils to absorb the matte finish but still leave decent coverage.

Or she just has really nice skin. 100% wearing eye makeup though
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I agree makeup is bad, but only because a lot of men set unrealistic expectations because of them and they're bad for your skin if you wear them too much.

I think this is something the west should look to the east for. Skincare and sun protection is much more important than cosmetics in Asian countries. And if you take good care of your skin, you'll look much, much younger when you're in your 30s. If you want a tan, studies have suggested people generally find carotenoid coloration more attractive than melanin coloration. So instead of going into the sun, just eat more carrots.

>>24495092
Literally what makes you think that?
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>>24494634
you know she has a shit ton of makeup right?
you know she looks like a wax doll face to face?
you know you could spot the fraud in a second?
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>>24495092
So just to be clear, makeup is manipulative, right?
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>there are people that actually complain about makeup and yoga pants

>>>/lgbt/
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>>24495180
>liking fake ass hoes
>>>/facebook/
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>>24495122
>Taking advice from gooks

Maybe skincare, but they are possibly even more fraudulent than western girls with circle lenses, eyelid tape, fake eyelashes and plastic surgery becoming the norm.
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>>24494930
>A chemical mask AKA make up

Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask
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>>24495225
Which is why I said THIS is something etc. etc. Holy shit get over your autism
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>>24495122

>people generally find carotenoid coloration more attractive than melanin coloration

Are you a nutritionfacts.org regular?
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>>24495227
you're a pretty guy
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>>24494972
Theatricality and deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated... but we are initiated, aren't we
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>>24495238
>Are you a nutritionfacts.org regular?
No, what's that?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25014019
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>>24495122
Because most women don't have perfect complexions like that. Maybe she is lucky and has nice natural skin. But most of the time it's makeup senpai.

Skin makeup is so easy to get away with, even men in film/commercial/tv are wearing foundation and stuff to make their skin look perfect on camera
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>>24495265
So basically your whole line of reason is "she can't possibly look that good"? And I thought you actually saw something on her face. Carry on then.
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I know everyone here is a virgin but there are always some lost chads floating around /r9k/,

Have any you ever been with a girl who looks completely different without their makeup? I mean so different that you feel manipulated or deceived when they remove it all? Or a girl who suddenly has a fat and gross body after taking off her carefully slimming clothes?
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>>24495295
Not even who you're replying to but you're deluded as fuck man. Maybe you want this girl to be wearing no makeup so she fits into this little idealist view you have of her, but she is clearly wearing foundation and/or concealer. You can tell by the consistency of the skin's colour and the shine
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>>24495316

Long as I bail in the morning it's all G.
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>>24495373
You seem to under a lot of assumptions bud. I was just trying to gauge his reasoning.

>so she fits into this little idealist view you have of her
I'm a girl btw
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>>24495407
>I'm a girl btw
So? Having an idealistic view of someone doesn't mean you have to fancy them. You gotta take into consideration the fact that she's wearing eye makeup too. It seems really unlikely that she'd put on mascara/eyeliner and do nothing at all with her face. She'd balance everything out
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>>24494634
From a 6/10 to a 3/10
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>>24495450
>Having an idealistic view of someone doesn't mean you have to fancy them.
Do I need to repeat myself?
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This is why I only like little girls, they don't wear any makeup. WYSIWYG
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>>24495505
>hurr durr it's only because of makeup
Pedo excuses just get flimsier and flimsier
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Coming to terms that at least half of these "pretty" women you see on a day to day basis are actually pretty ugly looking is a hard thing to do but it must be done.
>tfw thinking of all the robots who don't grasp their oneitis is likely to look like a swamp troll underneath all that make-up.
What if they actually get the girl and discover she's been lying about her appearance since day one? It's a very sad thought.
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>>24494808
Maybe not to a virgin
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Women are walking billboards, fake tits, padded bras, make-up, hair extensions, fake eyebrows.

Yet they expect a 10/10 looking male.
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>>24494634
Is there one where she's wearing the make-up AND glasses?
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>>24494680
makeup doesnt do much for ugly girls. it just makes pretty girls prettier.
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>>24496018
your fault for going after stacy
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>>24494868

it does

if you persuade a woman to fuck you with false pretense, it's considered rape. Lead her to think you make 100k a year when you really make 40, and she fucks you based in part on that? Rape.

Would she be charged with prostitution? No. But that's none of my business.
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>>24494664
If you think it's such an outrage why don't you wear makeup?

You don't have to use it to femme up. Male actors use makeup all the time just to cover blemishes and enhance certain features.
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>>24496502
This.

Makeup won't do shit to an ugly nose or shitty facial bone structure.

If a girl looks good with makeup, and doesn't need cosmetic surgery, she's pretty.
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>>24496018
That's like 1% of women.
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>>24496502
Not true. You just need decent bone structure, which doesn't necessarily mean you're attractive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mu_betPexI
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>>24494810
>that girl
>anywhere close to attractive
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>>24496568
The overwhelming majority of women do it. Stacey is just better at painting her face and all the other deceitful bullshit.
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>>24494896
I see where you are getting at, but again, none of those things enhance your facial appearance, the number one thing most people look at when finding someone attractive.
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this makeup stuff only really works well in pictures

IRL you'll be able to tell if she's ugly regardless of the makeup
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pro tip: if a girl wears heavy makeup she is ugly as fuck.
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>>24494634
About as fraudulent as trimming your beard.
>inb4 some dipshit say's "beards r natural tho!"
Trimming is not natural.
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>>24494634
Left is way more attractive.
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>cake your face with shit
>fuck up your eyebrows
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>>24499517
so in the end, we're all being fraudulent for getting haircuts?

fuck off.
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literally can't tell the difference
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>>24499478
Basically everyone is ugly as fuck without makeup senpai
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>>24494678
would probably work
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>>24500100
Not me or most other males...

Not men or the rare woman who take care of themselves and don't abuse their body through vices...


Actually, I've heard that women stole make-up and high heels from males. These were traditionally masculine items and costumes, if you would.
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>>24495070
Seriously though. Did she shave off half of them or what?
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