They could be ranting about how black people have low iqs and should be killed off but if they are called racist they get mad.
I no understand.
it's because racism has been linked to low IQ. calling someone a racist is the same as calling them an idiotic dullard
>>24475873
>speaking the truth
>racist
Alright bagelbaum, whatever you say.
I've seen a lot of this with the new Star Wars films casting
>John Boyega looks like a nasty sweaty ape, I want the lead of the new film to be white
>I'm not racist, he's just ugly!
Like there's no shame in being a racist
>>24475887
>dullard
Do you enjoy not having friends
>>24475907
If you don't like the group you're talking about any way, why do you care if they call you a racist?
>>24475887
being a black person is also linked to low IQ
See, I can move threads too!
>blacks have low IQs
Except you can back that up with data, which wouldn't make it racist. 99% of people don't even know what racist/racism is anymore.
The word racist is politically loaded and is generally used as a way of trying to shut down any opposition
>>24475918
Ya that's why people are upset. It's not like there was any unreasonable bias.
Hmm.
I was to say that yes, I am unavoidably a racist, because I just happen to fit the dictionary definition, but then...
>Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Doesn't fit. As >>24475907 says, my position is based on facts, not on beliefs.
>The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
Not sure. If by the 'characteristic/quality' is understood the general lower ability as opposed to the naive fact that every single one of them is inferior to every single one of us, then yes, I'm racist.
>>24475950
But people insult him for being black primarily, not the director for casting a black man.
>>24475959
>as opposed to the naive fact that every single one of them is inferior to every single one of us
*naive belief
>>24475944
Much like the"ree go back to leddit Chad" tier shit posted here all the time
Racism is not condemned in eastern europe, except by UE laws, which everybody ignores anyway,
There's a social stigma against racism, which is strengthened by the authoritarian left, that no one wants associated with them.
>not owning it
>>24475873
A CHING CHONG PING LING
>>24475873
Because "racist" in 2015 means
>disagreeing with a liberal
>disagreeing with a negro
>disagreeing with radical Islam
>believing in meritocracy
>>24476137
There's a social stigma against Saying hateful stuff in general. Why not just own it?
>>24475959
>each race is different like Pokemon
Kek
>>24475944
That may well, but if you don't want people to uSe that word, offer one that carries the same meaning without being politically loaded.
The word is not loaded, the concept itself is.
>>24476281
But if you're saying stuff like in the op then yeah you're a racist.
>>24475976
>But people insult him for being ugly and miscast primarily
FTFY
![[screams internally].gif](https://i.imgur.com/Hcn8vmb.gif "[screams internally].gif")
>>24475944
But you are literally a racist. This is just as retarded as misogynists getting all uppity when I call them misogynists because how dare I accurately label people.
>>24476296
Well, yeah? Phenotypical differences tend to do that
>>24476329
I'm not a racist.
I'm a mexican guy who really doesnt give a shit about any of this. I was just stating a fact.
>>24475873
>Why do dumb people do dumb things?
>>24476314
But nobody says these things. Even /pol/ doesn't say this shit without a bucket of irony. It's just a strawman.
>"you're not sad that an angelic misunderstood youth like Mike Brown got hurt? let me guess you would genocide all blacks if you got the chance right."
"Racist" implies you have an illogical hate of a group, as in you hate them just because they are that race.
I for instance hate niggers and Muslims. I don't hate them just because they are what they are, I hate them because they are uneducated, violent, and hypocrites.
>nigger children should be raped and murdered. They are the cancer of society!
>you are pretty racist
>HA HAVING AN OPINION IS RACIST NOW?YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD. Liberals throw around the word racist too much.
>>24476386
so you hate uneducated, violent people and hypocrites, not black people. are you literally retarded?
>>24475918
It more has to do with JJ Abrams bias with casting him. He did it JUST because he was black. That is literally like liberals setting diversity quotas for companies, it is being racist to supposedly stop racism. And ironically diversity quotas don't actually benefit anyone except women.
>>24476405
Most black people are exactly that, though. It is a lot easier to say "Fuck all niggers" than say "Fuck all uneducated violent hypocrites."
>>24476386
But your hate is illogical and irrational. You're just trying to affect the trappings of intelligence so you don't look like a fuckwit to anyone with a brain.
>>24476413
You don't even know how good of an actor he is yet
>>24476399
Racism is literally a word for someone who disagrees with communism. Funny how now it's all about abbos and blacks and anyone non white.
>>24476329
I am a woman and don't find people on /r9k/ sexist. I agree with what that guy is saying. Racism/sexism is not used for actually talking about racist and sexist behavior.
Calling someone racist is what people say when you hear someone crack a racist joke because almost no one here knows real racist like a KKK member or something. You're literally making non-racist people feel like shit because you expect them to pretend racism doesn't exist at all. They're not allowed to make fun of stereotypes even though the reason they are joking about it to begin with is because it isn't actually true and they want to turn stupid things into humor. Being about to joke about sexism and racism is something that helps kill stereotypes, not pretending it doesn't exist at all.
Sexist is basically the new racist. You can't joke about stupid things some women do (but not all women) because that's "sexist" even though actual sexist haven't really existed in our society for decades unless you're talking about stoning women in tribal nations.
You don't actually know sexist people, you just know some people aware of stereotypes who like to crack a few jokes. I've never met a man in my life who has stoned me or set me on fire for being a woman. Try asking yourself what exactly hate is because its not cracking a few jokes about silly stereotypes.
>>24476489
Who said anything about joking?there are people who actually feel this way.
>>24476489
Bravo, you did an excellent job assuming all that about me from virtually no information.
>>24476386
I dislike blacks because they're like native Americans, they try to play the oppressed card for as many decades as they can. Mexicans have been treated worse for years, but when a Mexican gets shot, they don't flip put and riot to "raise awareness". the Chinese were treated fucking miserably, they lived worse than slaves and yet if I went to Detroit I wouldn't have to worry about wang's territorial despite with kung-lao. Niggers cannot handle adversity whatsoever.
>>24475873
denial.
They think their racist ideas are truths.
>>24476515
>There are people who really think in ways I don't like
>In the current year
>>24476543
>I'm not like the others who scream racist at every chance
>>24476454
>most dog attacks committed by Rottweiler's
>Rottweiler approaches a child
>"be careful of the Rottweiler"
>perfectly sensible advice
>most violent crime and rape committed by blacks
>black approaches a child
>"careful of the negro"
>disgusting hate-filled delusional racist bile
Reality is a nice antidote for liberalism.
>>24476515
There's a difference between saying you hate women and actually setting one on fire. People can say whatever the fuck they want. That doesn't mean they're actually going to do it.
Stop trying to silence people from speaking because it might offend someone. They're not actually physically harming women despite their claims.
>>24476554
And that makes you a racist.
>>24476574
>You're a racist for expecting them to act like humans and be held to the same standards
>>24476571
Are you dumb?a person can be a racist/sexist without actually harming someone.
>>24476454
>But your hate is illogical and irrational
Explain how then. I don't even disagree with you, but if you can't back up that thought then you're not morally superior to the racist.
>>24476600
Yeah you're a racist because you hate millions of people and you probably have only met a hand full. Just accept it.
>>24476622
I'm not the guy you responded to
I just think you're retarded
>>24476605
If someone fantasizes about 2D lolis but would never touch a real child, are they a pedophile or do they just fantasize?
Most people will talk about ideas but they will never cross into taking any action. You're talking about labeling people and belittling them simply for talking.
>>24475873
I don't get mad, but I prefer the term Racialist
>>24476666
If you have fantasies about real children then yes you are a pedophile.
Going by your logic people can't be gay unless they have had sex with other men.
>>24476569
I know, shocking isn't it?
>>24476570
Human behaviour is far more varied and nuanced than that of dogs.
>>24476613
>I for instance hate niggers and Muslims. I don't hate them just because they are what they are, I hate them because they are uneducated, violent, and hypocrites.
>so you hate uneducated, violent people and hypocrites, not black people. are you literally retarded?
>Most black people are exactly that, though. It is a lot easier to say "Fuck all niggers" than say "Fuck all uneducated violent hypocrites."
Just read what he's typing.
>>24476666
Pedophilia doesn't require action on the part of the pedophile.
In modern society, being labeled a racist is a lot worse than holding racist views
A mass shooter drove tens of miles to specifically target a black church and authored a lengthy manifesto detailing racist views and conspiracies
Yet no news media labeled him a racist.
America is fucked
>>24476710
What I got from his post is that he hates people who constantly try to play the victim and leech off of others. It's not his fault majority are indians and blacks.
I don't get mad. It makes me proud desu. People who call me racist are leftist punk scums or just keks in general.
Pic is very related.
>>24476454
Niggers are violent, so I dislike them. Most white people aren't violent. It isn't racist to dislike niggers if they are giving you a reason to dislike them.
>>24476458
True, but at the same time we'll never know who could have done a better job than him. Maybe he'll be the best possible casting option. Maybe he won't be. We'll never know because Abrams decided skin color trumps a person's acting ability.
>>24476710
>Human behaviour is far more varied and nuanced than that of dogs.
And yet statistics hold strong.
>>24476554
I hate that your right. stop doing that.
>>24476779
You assume he isn't a right for the role based on his race. You haven't seen him act and that makes you a racist.
>>24476710
Seems as though he's suggesting black culture or possibly even genetics are the cause of their disproportionately high crime rates, which would allow him to safely refer to blacks in general rather than just violent, uneducated, people.
>>24476811
He was casted for being black. The director is open about doing things like this.
He's upset that race trumped talent. He's not saying that he couldnt have been the right guy for the job, he's saying we're worse off for mandatory diversity and that we could be better off in everything without it.
>>24476700
Pretty much, how do you know what you desire without obtaining it? That's how people work, they talk and talk then actually do something. There are always exceptions and they will often discover they do not really want what they think they desire.
Often times they had no idea what they desired and they just enjoyed holding it as an object of fascination or dreams. There has been many instances of robots finally getting laid then claiming they no longer hate women because in truth they are basically babies that haven't experienced the world yet. Ever wonder why this board isn't filled with Chads? It's because they actually know women and then realize that they don't really hate them. I was born hating males, I thought boys were fucking stupid as a kid. I was also once unsure if I was straight. Then I became intimately close to one and realized that I was stupid and had no idea what men were like before.
How can you know what you desire without actually experiencing it? You cannot build any sort of identity unless you go into the world and experience it.
>>24476811
Call me crazy but when the missing link gets cast as an action hero in a billion dollar franchise I can't help but ask what the producer was smoking.
In this case it was SJWism.
>>24476891
You're stupid and that is all there is to it.
>implying you can only hate someone and make their life hard if you physically harm them
>>24476916
>You're stupid I'm right
>lalalala I cant hear you
>>24475873
Because racism is a meme.
Black people are more likely to be poor, right? Many are stuck in a cycle of poverty, unfortunate but that doesn't change the fact they are poor which comes with a set of behaviors. If you want to be efficient you have to tailor your methods and practices to this reality.
So a black person comes in the store and you go right ahead and you follow him around to make sure he doesn't pocket anything, because this is a business, it is a good use of your time to do that. Then he gets mad and up in your face, but you're just doing the same as him, he's not buying anything just looking, you're not accusing him of being a thief, just looking.
Just looking.
>>24476916
>literally just parroted lines Zizek said to see your reaction
>"you're fucking retarded"
:^) I guess famous philosophers are retarded now, I better let Zizek know.
>>24476890
Well, there are tons of black guys he could have picked but he picked him which means he has talent. Also, for years white people have been getting casted for movies/shows because they're white and black people couldn't get any roles regardless of their talent because they're black(and it is still that way now, especially for black women). You don't have a problem when white people are getting special treatment, so you should be fine with black people getting it too.
>>24476977
When did you realize you were a racist?
>>24475873
Fuck off nigger/chink/spic/mudslime
>>24476891
>>24476934
>>24476947
>>24476916
You just got assraped by Zizek dude, how does that feel?
>>24476947
>I guess every philosopher is right at the same time
>>24477017
>My brilliant "you're stupid" argument destroys philosophy
>>24477017
>he thinks he is smarter than a renowned philosopher
*unzips fedora* i n t e l l e c t u a l
>>24476987
When I go look at audition postings they're almost always asking for white actresses and actors only which means they're missing out on a lot of talent but you don't have a problem with that do you?
>>24476934
Reminder that discarding a counterpoint someone makes to focus only on the ad hominem is it's own fallacy
>>24477045
Zizek is a meme philosopher and a Marxist. Fuck off retard. Anyone can be a philosopher, even those posters, that's what Plato said.
>>24475907
The racist part is saying they should all be killed off. Not the low IQ thing
>>24477068
>he assumes his opponents thoughts are entirely his own creation, and not influenced by a slew of different philosophers as well
>>24477068
If I namedrop some old faggot that makes me right! Now I can win all the internet arguments!
>>24477112
>"meme philosopher"
>"Marxist"
What does this have to do with this point? >>24476891
I have yet to see anyone respond to it with any sort of point besides saying "you're stupid".
I'M NOT A RACIST THAT'S WHAT'S SO INSANE ABOUT THIS
>>24476489
>I am a woman and don't find people on /r9k/ sexist.
There are women hate threads here almost every day.
>>24477071
In a country thats majority white theres going to be more white actors in movies.
If you wanted your precious "poc" in movies, you should rally for more mexicans. They're underrepresented. Black people are not.
>>24477112
You should be a philosopher. I'm sure you'll be widely renowned with your "I disagree you're stupid" philosophy
>>24477079
An argument without any substance can be dismissed the same way
>>24475873
I really hate being called racist when I point out Islam is a wicked religion that needs to be black-listed internationally.
Islam is an ideology, like fascism.
>>24477161
Richards wasn't a racist desu
>>24477126
A pack of wild dogs is roaming around your town biting people. Every time you catch them, they eventually get out and bite more people, or have puppies that grow up and do the same thing. They can't be tamed, because biting people is in their nature. What do you do?
You put them down, of course.
>>24477168
But you're complaining that choosing someone based on race is unfair but you don't mind when white people are chosen based on race. That makes you a hypocrite and a racist.
>>24477168
How about you stop dodging his counterpoint because you used up your brainyquote page on Zizek?
>>24477163
I meant they call themselves sexist but they don't actually do sexist things.
It's like how people often refer to themselves as talented, geniuses, smart, "intellectual". That doesn't mean it's true if they have nothing to actually show for it.
If you are sexist, go set a woman on fire and prove me wrong because I don't think you are. I don't think you actually have the will to hurt a woman, you just fantasize about it because you haven't had a good experience with one yet.
>>24477227
That's not even me, you're responding to someone else.
This one is me >>24477154
>>24477219
I'm not white to begin with.
I said in the terms of sheer numbers, white people outnumber you. Theres more white actors than black actors so there's more roles for them.
Statistically, black people are actually over-represented in hollywood.
In addition, theres a difference between picking a white actor for a white character and picking an actor for a character because they're black.
>>24477227
I didnt post the quote. I just think anyone who says you're stupid in response to an argument is a braindead faggot.
>>24477288
It's kinda assumed two people arguing that heavily with each other think the opposition is stupid. You can't just focus on that and ignore the direct counter example. Nothing wrong with showing your passion in between actual arguments desu
>>24477321
I never said the person I was responding to was stupid. Nor do I believe he is, pretty hard to be actually stupid unless you are born a dog or have down's syndrome. I am just curious to see his response and am still waiting for one.
>>24477362
It was in the same post
>implying you can only hate someone and make their life hard if you physically harm them
Nobody has yet responded to that
>>24477288
So what if they out number minorities?you argument is that it is wrong to cast people based on race but now you're saying it is ok to do that if it is for white people.
>>24477407
Well, if you hate someone, usually it means you want to harm them or stop them somehow. If you hate feminism or women, why not join some kind of anti-feminist movement and take action?
Sitting around and babbling about women on 4chan means absolutely nothing to me.
>>24477321
He's the only one who called the other stupid.
I called him dumb as shit but I'm just yelling from the sidelines.
>>24477288
Maybe the director envisioned this character as black
>>24477442
>Character written as white character is white
>Character has to be black for the sake of being black
Different things.
>>24475873
Because that's not what racism is senpai.
>>24477477
The director did not write the characters.
He's a man who openly "trying to correct racism in the past"
>>24477232
Setting fire to women doesnt make you sexist. Members of the kkk today are usually against things like murder. However they are more likely to endorse race wars and the like.
>>24477232
The lack of extremism and/or action doesn't mean it isn't sexist. I'm not bothered by it, but I'm not in denial about it either.
>>24475873
The same reason nlack people hate being called niggers
>>24477478
>character has to be black for the sake of being black
Maybe the director wanted the character to be black?who cares. Casting calls choose people based on race and skin tone all the time and usually non-whites lose out. You can't handle it that a black person gets picked for being black every once in a while?
>>24477550
Right, but the reason they joined the KKK is because they wished to take an active movement against other races. I don't see robots doing that, they are just sitting around and talking and have absolutely no activism.
I do want some ideas here to be taken seriously because I agree that current "tumblr" feminism is destroying us. I would very much enjoy if there was some kind of active movement to speak out against stopping safe space, silencing and culling of certain ideas but there isn't. I am not saying you need to be an extremist, but you at least need to do something if you want to change things.
>>24477504
white people are casted for roles of non-white characters all the time. Just admit your only problem is him being black.
>>24477593
You're ignoring that the director openly picked him because of sjw nonsense.
Are you willfully ignorant or stupid?
>>24477635
>All the time
>No references
I'm not white. I just hate this sjw director. If this actor was picked by anyone else for a decent reason I'd be fine with it.
>>24476413
I know you probably mean well but you're full of shit. Diversity is important for Star Wars specially because of its cultural influence. Blockbuster movies rarely have have non-white leads and even if they do, their race is always for some reason critical component of their character. Acting talent is of course important but lets not kid ourselves and pretend like there are so many opportunities for people of color to star in theses kinds of films.
Viola Davis honestly said this best
https://youtu.be/gXcT213XYlA
>>24477663
Then complain that he was chosen for political reasons, don't complain that him being chosen because he's black is unfair. he was chosen because he is black but he also beat out thousands of other black guys which means he has talent.
>>24477683
>No references
Wouldn't say it happens all the time, but the other anon is right. Not a lot of people seem to care when it does happen.
>>24477758
I will complain that the lead actor was chosen just because he was black. It's the problem.
I'd complain if he was chosen just because he was hispanic like me too.
I'd complain if the director was a nazi who chose him just for being white.
>>24477760
Name one time it happened in the last 10 years in a major film.
>>24477683
>prince of persia
>that retarded indian movie johnny depp did
>that 21 movie
>star trek
Off the top of my head
>>24477683
My problem with this film is it was chosen to represent the black community somehow, it's literally a film about a bunch of thugs. Why not choose to cover a subject that actually puts them in a good light? Probably because it's literally just a light show with flashing colors and no one would actually be interested in watching King's progress as he fought for rights for his race.
Last thing we need is Reaganomics film to show me that yes, there's thugs and violent people out there who happen to be black. What was the fucking point of this film? To make me idealize a bunch of thugs? And then SJWs tell me I need to enjoy it because "black people" exist and I need to appreciate that. I'm not allowed to judge people based on their actions, I just need to love them because they happen to be black.
I don't think there's anything specifically genetic that makes niggers such shit tier people, as a whole.
I think it's mostly it's a combination of their vile, anti-intellectual, anti-white culture combined with their lack of wealth and victim complex.
So yeah I'm a racist, but I obviously can't let anyone know or it means no jobs and being killed on the street by simians.
>>24477797
>Name one time it happened in the last 10 years in a major film.
Cloud Atlas, and the Last Airbender. Not sure if the second one could be considered a major film though.
>>24477839
>>24477823
I've seen none of these movies.
I'll take your word and concede that though. I consider it a problem too.
I don't think those were for any reason other than a white person being picked. The real issue is actors being picked with ulterior motives, whether white or black.
>>24477683
there are a lot of examples. Speed racer, the dragon ball z movie, ronin. All movies where the character is Asian but they chose a white man to play them. Lol but good luck getting any roles as an Asian man in Hollywood.
>>24477982
You should be hired based on merit and talent, not because you are a certain race.
Oh also that time Angelina Jolie played a mullato woman
>>24477982
Were those white people chosen for a political reason?
>>24478027
Because they're more marketable to americans than asians actors. I would assume.
>>24475873
Being called racist is like being called nigger.
>>24478019
Because she fit the role best and the director wanted her, not because of her race. It was a good decision. Cleopatra was born over 2,000 years ago, she looks nothing like a "mullato" woman.
Her race is basically non-existent at this point she Jolie was picked because she's a talented actress who happens to have many facial features like Cleopatra.
>>24478027
First the problem was he was picked only because he's black, then the issue was he doesn't have any talent and now you're saying the problem is because he was chosen for political reasons. Make up your mind.
>>24478007
If people being chosen based on race is a problem for you, then you should really be complaining about white people.
>>24478091
I don't care about who they hire, I just want them to pick good actors/actresses for the roles. I would not care if a white person played a black person and literally painted their skin black (Tropical Thunder) as long as the film itself was good.
Maybe that's because I don't see race as a skin color/cultural thing and instead just some genetics that cause no actual differences between humans besides some fucking pigments.
>>24478137
You don't know if this actor is a good or bad actor yet. Yes his race played a part in it but you're silly if you're trying to claim that is the only reason he was chosen.
Because "racism" has a negative connotation. It implies you're a dumb KKK recneck.
I don't care though. I'm proud to be a racist. The facts are racist.
What does it mean when you're black and also racist? Most of my life I thought I was not but I'm slowly accepting that I am.
And it's not that Uncle Tom stuff like " I hate other blacks" either.
>>24475873
im racist
as is everyone else
but im not race-centric
racist is a meaningless word now desu
>>24475873
Being called a racist is like being called a communist in the 50s or a witch in Salem. Literally everyone is racist and make judgements based on appearance. It's basic learning to see patterns and extrapolate from them.
>1 indian smells
>2 indians smell
>3 indians smell
>35/40 indians I've met in my life smell, therefore indians smell
>when I meet an indian I brace my olfactory senses for the worst now
I'm a racist for noticing patterns in the world around me. Sue me.
>>24478166
If his race played a part in being picked, that means the decision itself was racist. Doesn't matter who committed the decision, they can be any color they want to be because that part doesn't matter.
It's when you that you yourself don't need to be indicted for your decisions or held responsible for yourself because "my culture", and that has nothing to do with what mix of genetics you got.
Shooting people? Rapping about killing people? That's not "black" culture, that's a bunch of thugs. It doesn't matter what their skin color is. There is no culture, once you are born here, you are American. Stop trying to blame "white" people because you bought into the "streets". There are always exceptions and people who move above this despite the fact that they might be born black. Are you going to tell me that white people tricked them into being morally good? That they couldn't make decisions themselves and they should have been on the street selling drugs because that's their "culture"?
Why don't you take a look at good examples of people who happened to be black? You can't tell me that King seriously fought for those rights because he wanted black people to end up poor and shooting each other and make that part of their "culture".
>white people once again getting called out for their shit
>"WE DINDU NUFFIN!" is their response like always
Because in 2015, post Ferguson America, being called a racist is worse than death. It can get you fired from a job or expelled from a university.
>>24478361
>Rapping about killing people? That's not "black" culture, that's a bunch of thugs
wow, songs about killing people, real thuggish behavior
better get your act together darkies
only europeans are allowed to make music about killing people
>It doesn't matter what their skin color is
You say that, but it always does.
People bitch and moan about thuggish nigger crime disproportionately - and yes, I know those fucking talking point stats where the black:white crime ratio is X:1, I'm saying that people complain about niggers even more disproportionately than that
what is your fucking angle? why is this any of your business? it's your business because you're a racist. And I know we're all racists like >>24478329 said, but there's a difference between noticing that indians smell and harping on about talking points that might as well be shots in the race war
>once you are born here, you are American
funny joke
you a yankee or something
I wish governments would offer money to blacks to have their tubes/pipes tied/snipped/whatever. Racism would end within decades.
>>24478361
A black person being chosen because of his race is "racist" but it doesn't matter because that is just how Hollywood is. Just take comfort in knowing that most black people won't get roles because they are black, especially black women.
>>24478686
No, their skin color does not matter. Maybe it matters to you but there are plenty of people around you who do not give a shit. If you don't want to get arrested, don't rob people, don't kill them. Stop preaching that bad hip-hop is "black culture".
Guess what, there's plenty of people who don't preach violence and happen to be black. The NWA movie was literally the shittiest piece of shit I've ever seen and is just another wonderful example of a tons of black people destroying their own race while the silent minority of them struggle to prove a point.
I don't listen to a metal song and bang my head then say "man, Finnish culture is THE BOMB! I need to respect this! This is what it's all about!" No one does this, they just see it as a piece of music. Somehow you've tricked yourself into thinking NWA is literally black culture but it's not, it's just a fucking shitty example of a shitty people who are trying to sell me "culture" even though American culture is non-existent.
>>24478329
You only notice the stinky ones and the ones that smell god are an exception to the rule because you are racist
>>24478686
>where the black:white crime ratio is X:1, I'm saying that people complain about niggers even more disproportionately than that
The crime rate is something like 10:1. If there really was 10 racists for every non-racist liberals wouldn't ever be in power.
>>24475873
It's because we don't hate black people just because they're black
we hate black people because their average IQ is 85 and they commit more violent crime per capita than any other ethnic minority while also being a big drain economically and contributing the least academically out of any ethnic minority.
So we don't hate black people because of their race, we hate black people because they are shit.
Therefore we aren't being racist since the color of their skin, their race, is not why we hate them.
;)
>>24478998
I work a wage slave retail job and live in phoenix near intel. Intel imporr s indians for cheap code monkey work. I see a lot more indians than you do.
>>24475873
>be black
>can hate white people without losing my job or being publicly shat on
>whenever I go to work or volunteer during the summer I deliberately screw up to make things harder for the white guys I'm serving or (helping)
>>24479029
>If there really was 10 racists for every non-racist liberals wouldn't ever be in power.
what I'm saying is that among "non-racist" whites, who may or may not have personal opinions on the matter but don't allow racism to affect their electoral politics, discussion of black v white crime incidents occurs at more than a rate of 10:1 - and even 10:1 would be some bullshit given how many of those are black-on-black crimes that whites have no business talking about other than to feel sanctimonious
>>24478822
>Maybe it matters to you but there are plenty of people around you who do not give a shit. If you don't want to get arrested, don't rob people, don't kill them.
If you don't want to get arrested, don't get caught. And the arrest isn't really where it stops; it's unpleasant but the real task is "If you don't want to get convicted". And a pretty easy first step to avoid conviction once the police have already established you as suspicious enough to arrest is "be white".
People claim to not give a shit, but I hear how they talk about "the bad parts of town". About the parts of town where nobody's fucking around at night to commit violent crime on you, and any passers-by are probably too poor to be worth mugging, but they're still "bad" inherently because they're full of niggers.
White people love to pass it off like they don't give a shit about race but when it comes time to talk it's all about blacks blacks blacks, don't mention the poor whites, don't even fucking mention the hispanics
>>24479161
Let the assblasted storm comments begin.
>>24479161
>he thinks being mean to others is unique to black people
Are you racist against yourself?
>>24479077
That's fine but that has nothing to do with the question that I asked
>>24479161
>be on 4chan
>pretend to be black to make my claims valid
You really think if you went to work saying you want to kill all white people and calling your white coworkers ugly piggu you wouldn't be fired?
>>24476489
tits or gtfo cumslut
>be racist loser betafag who posts on /r9k/
>dislike niggers and muslims because they are lazy, uneducated, filthy and violent
>embody all the characteristics listed above
lol wait what? You are literally retarded if you are racist while being a genuine robot
>>24479180
>respond to one sentence and ignore the rest
People don't look suspicious because of the color of their skin. They look spooky because they dress like a character out of NWA/Friday movie and stomp around eyeing cops and behaving strangely.
Poor people in general area already suspicious because they are just more likely to commit crime due to not having necessities. I was a poor shit as a kid and not black, parents still got pulled over ALL the fucking time because of the shit car (also my parents actually did do illegal things such as selling drugs so they had pretty good reason to suspect us). I can't count the number of times my mom has been arrested for her opiate problems and walking around strung out like a fucking idiot. Now I have money, a cop hasn't even glanced at me for years because of the car/the fact that I just appear rich.
If you look like pic related and drive around your Telsa or whatever at the speed limit, no one is going to pull you over.
>>24475873
Because calling someone racist invalidates their opinion completely without having to respond to it with reason or counter argument.
>>24479302
But they are racist though.
>>24475873
Fear of social stigma. I absolutely am a racist but the consequences for being known as racist by anyone other than fellow racists are severe and can impact your career.
>>24479323
If you aren't scared of saying stuff like that, you shouldn't be bothered if someone calls you a racist.
Because despite my views I am not a racist.
It just happens the people that I despise are always of another color than me.
strange no?
>>24479469
But I am scared of saying racist things. I only say racist/sexist things when I'm in a group of white male peers.
>>24479469
Nice claim that doesn't logically follow from anything that has been said and is just you inserting your feelings into the conversation.
>>24479492
fuck off useless degenerate roastie whore
>>24479492
I assume that people are more likely to hate a person who is of the same race. Your peers are usually of the same race and if someone does something bad to you( like dumps you, cheats on you or turns your friends against you) they're more likely to be of the same race.
>>24479180
Looking at numbers from 2013 1:6 is by black. Black pop is around 1:8. I think that's around 15-20% over-presentation. I'm really bad at calculating percentages.
Isn't there a ton of white nerd shooting on school discussions. Even gun laws are being changed because of that, not because of blacks even though blacks are a way bigger risk.
>>24479469
>on skype with some girl from 4chan
>joking around and giggling
>i said "that's retarded"
>she gets mad and yells at me about mentally retarded people
>deletes and blocks me
She was pretty retarded after that because there are people who don't believe we should be allowed to say what we want. They try to put themselves into the shoes of a retarded person and assume they might actually be offended when they themselves do not actually have mental retardation.
"Woah woah woah, that word belongs to retards only! How dare you!"
Change the words around a little, imagine that I said nigger instead and somehow used it as an adjective, not to insult black people though. I just wanted to say something was "niggerish". If you think the word nigger somehow belongs only to black people, then you've turned yourself into a racist who believes that only black people can be niggers. You've let actual racist people trick you into being racist against yourselves and destroying your own race.
To top it off, black people who "escape the streets" are often expelled from their own families and not welcome back because being successful through a normal career is "white culture".
>>24479546
and isnt it strange dispite what my friends do to me I dont hate them and hate blacks instead?
means the blacks have done some worthy of being hated no?
Because the term has no objective meaning anymore, it's just a buzzword.
>>24479590
By pure numbers it was 2500 whites killed by whites and 500 killed by blacks. Hence the 1:6. I guess saying bigger risk overall is wrong since they are small, but as an individual or ethnic race.
>>24475873
>don't call me racist
nobody who isn't retarded cares
>>24475873
Because racists have tiny brains, and tiny boobs, and micro penises
>>24475873
because its not an argument, its a shut down tactic. its like a little kid going 'yeah well your fat!' and thinking it means their opinion is worth anything.
>>24479645
No, because being racist is a mental illness. Which means you can hate a whole group of people even if they have never done anything to you personally but the reality is someone of your own race is more likely to hurt you.
>>24479846
not according to FBI.gov :^)
>>24479887
crime is usually intraracial. For example a white woman is more likely to be raped by her own father than some random black guy on the street.
>>24479784
Fattie detected
>>24480011
You're forgetting that there's a very obvious problem with "black culture". It's cool to hate Muslims in America now but uncool to hate black people. Why is that? Why was there so much stigma against black culture to begin with? Mass media easily tricks anyone even though it's obviously a very small percentage of crimes. Black people have actually become racist against themselves and expect others who are part of their race to become successful through being a basketball player or drug dealer. That's a obvious problem.
I'm not denying that black people were once oppressed but you can't stand on the shoulders of a bunch of dead people and say that whitey is holding you down. They need to be held responsible for things they preach, just like how we hold KKK members responsible for being racist fucks. You need to decide that thug behavior is inappropriate and not acceptable. Until that happens, you will continue to feel like people are racist because you yourself are racist against your own people. You assume they need to fall into a little pattern of stereotypes otherwise they're not "black enough". Black culture is killing the black race and they should be fighting against that culture instead of exploiting their own race.
>>24480011
>check FBI.gov
>nope
They are statistically more likely to be raped by a black man or hispanic.
>>24480169
People are more likely to be raped by people they know, it's rarely random. Except Native American women, they're more likely to be raped by white men and it's weird that Native American women have the highest rape rates in America. Also, did you know black on black murderers are decreasing while white on white murderers are increasing?
>>24480238
Murders* I mean
And this is why everyone need to shut the fuck up and quit acting like their race deserves their cocks sucked just for existing. Every race has its shit people, every race has its over achievers, get over it. when the hell was it proven that skin color dictates mentality and not upbringing or environment. Im sick of fuckers taking credit for shit that happens 100's of years ago by people who share the same race them and Im sick of the fucking media shoving progressiveness down my fucking throat, fuck you all. Take a break from looking at the race of people and just look at the fucking person.
>>24476356
>Brings up being mexican like that makes him less racist
>>24476554
>Mexicans have been treated worse for years, but when a Mexican gets shot, they don't flip put and riot to "raise awareness".
Why do people do this? Just stand up and tell lies?
>>24476554
Hold on...let, let me get this straight
>Near complete genocide and destruction of entire race
Whiny babies get over it
>Hundreds of years of slavery and social oppression
Whiny bitches, you so dumb
>Girl won't date me
Suddenly whining, complaining and misogyny is acceptable. Ok.
Mexicans have not been treated worse than Blacks, nor were Chinese. Its idiotic to suggest otherwise. Also, you're implying Asians and Mexicans aren't the ones most actively involved in human trafficking their own people.
>>24475873
It actually doesn't bother me at all. I believe what I believe. I'm self aware enough to know I'm in the wrong with my views, but at the same time I can't change my thinking.
I genuinely hate kebabs, kebab culture, kebab everything. That doesn't mean I act like a cunt to any individual. Infact, I normally abide by what "used" to be the accepted path of tolerance. I don't like something, yet I don't act on it, I accept I have to live alongside it, I just ignore it where I can and rant about it behind closed doors or the internet.
Sadly, tolerance doesn't seem to be enough anymore. Now you have to actively speak up or proclaim your love and support for minorities, sexual orientations etc or you're labelled as a bigot anyway.
It's kind of sad really, I've never done anyone any harm, I've been polite and treat individuals the same regardless of what I think of their wider culture or beliefs, yet I'm still scum of the Earth.
>technically racist
>mean no offence just lazy to fix vocabulary
>all these hardcore SJWs easily get triggered
>afraid to make FB posts due to that, don't want anyone after me
>>24481420
>crying about things that didn't happen to you but happened to some people you didn't know hundreds of years ago
>crying about things that happened to you in your lifetime
I'm a woman and you just seem retarded. People are allowed to complain about things that actually happened to them even if it is annoying. Don't try and tell me black people think they are owed something because they are riding on the coat tails of dead people they didn't know.
If you want to apply this logic, I want to be patted on the back for all the annoying teenagers and cranky old people who have asspained my life for no reason. Also, I feel I deserve a little money from black people, Mexicans (just throw on all brown people really), Asians, Native Americans, other white people, other women, men and children for finding little ways to annoy me sometimes. No, it doesn't matter that they're individual people, they represent a whole group of people and should be responsible for paying for that.
>>24481804
>I'm not like others girls! I'm edgy
>>24481881
Pay up for that, you are not allowed to belittle me because you are oppressing my life. I deserve compensation!
Plus remember when women couldn't vote before? I don't know any personally myself but you probably owe me something for that!
>>24481804
>happen to people you don't know
Black people only just got the right to vote etc 50 years ago. So yeah I know a lot black people from that era.
>>24475873
go back to where ever you belong, foreign person.
>>24481942
Slavery was hundreds of years ago retard.
There's still women alive who weren't allowed to vote before, so now you owe me and every other woman money just because some other people exist. Even though I personally didn't suffer at all.
>>24481922
Did you know that Jim Crow laws were abolished in 1964? That's not long ago. My mom was a baby.
I wondered this too, but here is my honest analysis:
Think about who racist typically are. Poor, or at the very least, underachieving members of society. Historically, its always been this way. Sure, rich white people were (are) racist too, but that was because they wanted to keep the poor divided so they can keep their power. Look at the internet. A place like 4chan is filled with people who are looked down upon most in their society. Typically no job or a low wage career. No social skills, nothing to look forward to, not even a mate to speak positively of them.
No one wants to be considered the worst, so they have to find someone to look down at. Blacks are poor, and many of them live in impoverished, violent areas. A racist won't think of the why, only that it is, and chose to use that to say "hey, I'm may be doomed to die alone with little money, but at least I'm not them!"
There hasn't been a point in history where racist didn't say Blacks are naturally violent and stupid, or Native Americans are weak, whiny, and should just disappear. This has always been happening, even while the same people riot and kill all the same. Its any argument that is just as invalid today as it was then.
Calling them a racist once again puts them at the bottom of society, something they are desperately trying to avoid. That's why this thread is full of people dodging the issue and misusing facts to back their "beliefs", but doing well to avoid analyzing the date and history too much. They will ignore their OWN race's faults, because its undermines their goal, which is to be better than SOMEONE.
>>24479321
Stops people from actually trying to solve the issues, though.
>>24482056
Except black people didn't fight for compensation, they fought for equal rights and got it. So why do you think they deserve money?
Do we owe Muslims money now because Americans hate them or does this just not apply to Muslims? Only black people need compensation, right? I mean, the world only owes certain people something but make sure to exclude the ones that you don't exactly like.
>>24482023
There were still laws in place to keep black people from advancing even after slavery. Couldn't own land, couldn't go to decent schools, weren't allowed to vote etc
A lot of these laws were abolished not to long ago, so yeah...
>>24482104
I didn't say they deserved money you silly woman.
>>24482082
>Native Americans are weak, whiny and should just disappear
Pretty sure no one has ever said this unless you're counting Christopher Columbus or something.
>>24481804
Be real. You think 250 years of slavery, plus nearly 100+ years of legal segregation, plus 30+ of open but not spoken about marginalization and propaganda is just gonna disappear this decade? Thats dumb, and you should know that. It didn't have to happen to them, its ridiculous to think the effects would just go away. Racism clearly didn't just disappear.
When was the last time you got shot by a black guy? How bout robbed? Raped? Most people here probably don't even know any black people, but they bitch and complain like blacks interrupt their everyday lives. Like you are, with that stupid example.
BTW, being a woman does not in anyway back up your argument, so just save that shit.
>>24482194
Someone in this very thread said they hate NAs for this very reason
>>24482104
Literally no one in this thread said anything about paying up. But if I wanted to, I'd say the bombing of hundreds of thousands of muslims warrants some paying up. I guess that would get your panties into even more of a bunch though.
>>24482202
I'm not saying it's going to disappear this decade but they are certainly not owed anything. The issue isn't white people being racist against black people, it's black people being racist against themselves.
Most white people do not give a shit about black people/spend their time thinking about how much they hate them or bother them unless you are some kind of KKK member (a very small tiny number of extremist). However black culture is somehow teaching black people that they need to "grow up on the street", pop bottles of champagne and "don't let whitey hold you down". They are holding themselves down, that is the issue.
I assume no one here reading this is black but if you are black, and you run around telling black children that the secret to being successful is selling dope, shooting people and shooting hoops, you are perpetuating terrible stereotypes and encouraging youth to act like thugs. This has literally nothing to do with the color of your skin or if you are white or black, it is just a type of culture that should be culled from our society and never taken seriously again.
>>24482202
It's weird that they expect us to be perfect after only 50 years. Black people aw getting better, black crime has decreased since the 80s, pol doesn't talk about that though.
>>24482333
You don't know anything about real black people, if you did you wouldn't be saying this. Why has black crime decreased then?
>>24475873
People use "racism" as an excuse to fire and silence people and thoughts they don't like. It is up to the "person of color" to decide what is and what is not racist. The mentality of leftists is no better than "Irish need not apply" signs.
>>24482413
>if you are someone who perpetuates this culture
Obviously, there are plenty of exceptions. I'm telling you plenty of people don't participate in this culture and happen to be black. If you are someone who does do this, you are part of the problem. It's not black people, it's "black culture".
Believe me, African culture left this country years and years ago, you are American now.
>>24475873
Having an honest study on race and IQ would be nice without stigmas and insults thrown at people like J. Philippe Rushton. Fuck leftists for firing honest scholars.
>>24482459
You think telling people they're evil and disgusting is ok? I get online but I really don't understand people delusional enough to think it is wrong they can't say these things to someone's face.
>>24482491
IQ doesn't have to do with race, it has to do with money. This has already been studied. There are some exceptions and genetics just create a natural born genesis, but IQ goes up dramatically depending on how much money your family has.
Black people just seem "stupid" because so many of them are poor and poor people cannot afford resources to learn.
>>24482386
>black crime has decreased since the 80s
got a citation for this family?
>>24482514
geniuses*
>>24482501
"Scholars" like Susan Sontag and Tim Wise can talk shit about white people all the time. Race science is real and valid anthropology and but leftist Jews took over universities.
>>24482333
$1000000000 says you know zero black people
jesus christ you sound 70+ years old
>>24482531
It's not black crime that has decreased, it's crime committed by poor people. There's just less poor people, not that black people have suddenly magically committed crime less crime.
It's just that there are less black poor people and more middle class/rich black people now. The only reason people commit crimes generally is mental illness or they are fucking poor.
>>24482333
Wtf bitch suck my diiick. Tf are you talking about? Crime has been doing nothing but decrease even when gangsta rap was at its most popular. The graduation rate among blacks have never been higher, and there are more black males in college than there ever have been. NYC's crime is at its lowest to fucking date, even compared to when whites were the ones filling up the slums.
You don't know the first thing about "black culture". You just know about some 90s songs and only crime stats. And you know why you don't know shit? because you don't WANT to know. You just want to say dumb shit that racist people in America have been saying FOREVER. Name one era where racists weren't saying what you're saying right now. You can't, because your shit is unoriginal and weak.
>>24482386
Because that makes it clear that they are racist
>>24482491
There have been studies but these studies aren't giving you the answer you want
why do fat women hate being called fat women
>>24482514
Studies have shown that blacks raised by middle class whites are still performing under their white classmates. Thousands of years of independent brain development will not lead to equal intellectual capacity.
>>24482554
>let me deflect your argument by claiming you don't know black people
I have black friends, they just don't care for black "culture" because it's not culture at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
Here, try listening to another black person tell you about it because apparently a white person saying it just means I am a 70-year-old man.
>>24482584
*old crime stats
>>24482585
Rushton's studies got him fired from a Canadian university. All they said was some races are better than others at non-biased IQ tests.
>>24482565
Yeah all violent crime has been on a decrease since a big spike during the Crack epidemic. There are a bunch of competing reasons for the drop and can't be laid on any one thing.
>>24482471
But what you are saying is fucking dumb. Most Black Americans are in Black culture. Most Blacks are not criminals. This has never not been true
>>24482514
How many black Nobel (non-Peace) Prize winners are there?
>>24482661
Gee, how long have Blacks been allowed to flourish in an education friendly environment again? Where is YOUR nobel prize. You have literally no excuse.
>>24482661
Give it time, give black people money and education, any race or sex could win a nobel prize with the right resources. You need to have a lot of money and resources to be that intelligent, it has nothing to do with your skin color, it has to do with money.
>>24482660
Yeah, "black culture" is doing a great service to your race. I'm sure when King fought for your rights, he really wanted to you joke about killing people and selling drugs. I bet he was thinking, "I have a dream to let people encourage people to participate in gangs and kill other black people".
Most of black culture is a fucking joke and I hope you see that someday and never participate in it again, and this has nothing to do with hip-hop or basketball, it has to do with encouraging young black children in poor neighborhoods to "become tough and kill people for money and drugs". It's barbaric culture and it should be removed from our society. This is not what you or anyone should be teaching children, what kind of life is that? It's fucking disgusting. Why wouldn't you encourage black children to contribute to this world instead of trying to "get rich on the street"? What is the point of attacking people in your own race because "culture"?
>>24482712
> Whitey be holding us down. It's up to whitey to provide an education friendly environment, and let us get smart. It has nothing to do with our shit attitude.
They had sub-Saharan Africa all to themselves before Arabs came and made them slaves and sold them off to white Christians and Jews. What did they do in that time?
>>24482906
What about Jim crow laws and the fact that it was illegal for black people to read?
>>24482992
We're talking about the present.
>>24482712
> what is the bell curve?
> what are populations?
> every race should either all be geniuses or they can't call other races out on low IQ scores and lack of collective achievement.
>>24483020
These are laws that were abolished not long ago. You expect generations and centuries of poor education and proverty to be fixed in 50 years?
>>24476554
>Mexicans have been treated worse for years, but when a Mexican gets shot, they don't flip put and riot to "raise awareness".
The fuck am I reading?
>>24482992
It was illegal in the Middle Ages for white European peasants to read. What does that matter today?
>>24483069
Certainly not, but I'm talking about you, not someone else. Was it abolished in your lifetime? Did someone stop you from reading books?
>>24482992
Why are they trashing libraries when it suddenly becomes legal? Even today I hardly see any blacks reading books when I go to the library. They are usually in the video section or using the free computers to post shit on social network sites.
>>24483069
You realize that extremely intelligent people you read about were not born that way right? They studied for YEARS and worked hard to be in those places. Why do you think some Jim Crow laws that didn't involve your life personally at all is stopping anyone in this thread from studying?
>>24483113
I had great grand parents who could barely read, my grand mother was poor etc I mean so yeah those things did effect me in some way.
>>24483205
Black people didn't have those opportunities. How can you study when it was literally illegal for you to do so?
>>24483099
>doesn't know the difference between 50 years ago and the Middle Ages
>black people are stupid
>>24483207
I was born extremely poor too, I don't see your point. My mom was a strung out opiates and certainly wasn't reading books to me. >>24479296
I am finishing law school now and that was all based on my own merit, my mom didn't do shit for me and being white doesn't mean you just have things handed to you. I went to school in inner city Milwaukee and spent a lot of time around black children.
>>24483230
>my grandparents were oppressed years and years ago but i wasn't
>that's why i'm unsuccessful, because my grandparents suffered, it has nothing to do with me
>i can't take responsibility for myself
>>24483263
It's just another excuse. Look at a world GDP, IQ, or EQ map and see where the low points are. Then compare with map of African ancestry. Haiti has been FREE for 200 years. That's not much shorter than the 1600s when some Medieval serfdom laws were still in effect.
because people called racist 99% of the time aren't racists
>>24483356
Haiti is just an extremely poor nation though, doesn't matter how long you are free if someone else is using up all your resources and you have a shitty government.
Take a look at Italy.
>>24477823
>retarded Indian movie Johnny depp did
You mean the cowboy movie? Depp has been playing different races for a long time. See: pirates of the Caribbean. There's not really a large amount of native Americans left, let alone talented actors.
>21 movie
What?
>>24483383
Except in this case.
>>24483319
I didn't say I'm unsuccessful. I just think it's dumb when people say "lol slavery was 100s of years ago! Black people had all that time to get better"
But they forget Jim Crow laws were abolished when most of your parents were babies. Black people are getting better but it takes time. Slavery and the laws after slavery was abolished did fuck up the black community but it is getting better. Black kids test scores are getting better, black on black crime is decreasing etc
>>24483385
Italy looks nice and civilized, even in the inner cities. Haiti looks like a big slum.
>>24477550
KKK accepts black people now, friend.No Jews though iirc
>>24483458
>KKK accepts black people now
Why?
>>24476314
You know, even /pol/'s actual majority stance on black people is "They should have their own country" or "let nature run its course in a free society."
>>24483458
>No Jews though iirc
Does any race actually genuinely like Jews?
>>24476314
But they do have low average IQs. That's just factual information. Some have 110-120, but the majority is in the 80 range.
