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>So anon who are you going to vote for? You are voting for
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>So anon who are you going to vote for? You are voting for me aren't you?
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>>24471250
>Voting for a big government businessman
>Literally voting for more corporatism and a bigger military complex
>Being this fucking retarded
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>tfw not american so I can't vote for God Emperor Trump
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>>24471268
Liberal logic gtfo pls
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>>24471268
>Trump will be a good president because he can't be bought, he's a billionaire!

If Trump ever wins I swear he's going to use the White House as an advertisement banner
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>>24471268
Trump is actually the one candidate that looks like he'll reduce government protection of large corporations the most. he might not be perfect, but it's better than nothing
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>not voting for the unstumpable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Wp41IN0pw
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>>24471268
>bigger military complex
wow you're literally pulling shit out of your ass
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>>24471287
Why not just vote for Carly?
That is exactly what will happen with Trump.

He is as much Hillary as Obama is Bush.

They just play off each other. Whoever wins enacts the same exact fucking plan. Just one guy made the false promise of a wall.

>Shame on you for shilling for such a faggot
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the worst feeling I have is that Trump will only be able to blow the fuck out of one democrat, either Hillary or Sanders.
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literally a /pol/ meme candidate. the dude is a fucking maniac. the sad thing is that the more you extreme he gets the higher his poll numbers are. fuck the Republican party.
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>not voting for the neetbux jew

W A G E C U C KS
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>>24471374
>the more you extreme he gets the higher his poll numbers are
kekservative detected. your time is up, deal with it faggot
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Trump 2016! Guaranteed lulz for at least four years.
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>>24471374
sounds like >>>/soc/ is the place for you
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>>24471385
>sanders
>pro neet
I hope you realise that Sanders is probably the most corporatist candidate there is right now. even if he increases welfare (which is unlikely) he won't be giving it to a privileged white male such as yourself.
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>>24471268
Confirmed for not even knowing his stances.
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>>24471374
>the more you extreme he gets the higher his poll numbers are

That't because it's the primary.

Spatial theory of voting:
Most extreme standpoint wins the primary, most neutral standpoint wins the general.
That's why you see so much "flip-flopping" between the primary and general:
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>>24471268
>big government
Do you also think he hates Mexicans and wants to make it impossible to emigrate to the US?
Stop getting your info from TV and liberal blogs anon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/18/business/with-trump-as-foe-carried-interest-tax-loophole-is-vulnerable.html?_r=0

>Give Donald Trump credit for this: The Republican presidential candidate has done more to put a stake in the heart of the carried-interest tax loophole in the last month than the Obama administration has in the last six and a half years.
From the New York Times of all things, a left leaning paper.
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>>24471374
Care to explain what you even mean by
>extreme
He's not extreme in the least bit.
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I'm voting least sjw. is that trump?
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>>24471421
This. Trump if anything a National Socialist. Kinda neat actually to see it. Wanting to place tariffs and restrictions of imports to make domestic goods more competitive, a simplified tax code getting rid of a lot if deductions, getting rid of illegal immigrants and putting Americans workers first. Literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>24471408
neetbux jew has always defended welfare

there is no racial basis to who can receive welfare, i get mine no problem
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>>24471441
Yes. He's the anti-SJW and despite the lies of the media he's suprising popular with minority demographics.
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>>24471417
And it's historically uncommon for one party to win three terms.
In fact the last time it happened was in the 1921 to 1933 when the Republicans won thee terms in a row.
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>>24471449
Liberals think it's racist to stop shipping jobs to China or something I imagine.
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>>24471250
Most of /pol/ is racist white, so most of /pol/ will.
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>>24471441
yes, the absolute opposite of sjw. he openly says he wants political correctness dead
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Hey Donald who did you say your waifu was again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
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>>24471478
open borders is a koch brothers policy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0
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>>24471496
>Even Bernie wants closed borders
>Liberals keep bashing Trump for it
Liberalism is a disease. Jesus Christ.
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Do Americans take their election serious or just view it as a meme like the rest of the world?

I mean how can this guy who basically is a big businessman and tv show personality not only be a candidate but the /pol/ candidate? He doesn't represent any conservative or nationalistic ideas other than wanting to stop illegal immigration (lol). He's like the textbook definition of a populist yet the people of burgerstan swallows it all.

>inb4 another murrrrica redneck 14 year old calls me a librul or communist or whatever buzzword /pol/ taught him
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>>24471478
This. Ironically one of the things that has totally fucked over labor force participation rates, especially in poor Hispanic and black communities is an abundance of illegals willing to work for far less than minimum wage under the table. Illegals have literally fucked low skill labor wages and created a surplus of labor, that it makes its almost impossible to find and live off of those jobs, let alone raisig a family, within being forced to draw from welfare and other "benefits"
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>>24471503
take a look at canadas elections
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>>24471302
Nope. He's a businessman. He'll say anything to get elected, he said this much in the Art if the Deal.

Character issues aside, Trump is very pro corporation. The government does not "protect" large corporations, it let's them grow unrestricted with lax tax laws and breaking of laws like Glass Steagal. Qualitative easing is just one small speck on how the American government is handled by corporations. In fact, QE was mostly motivated by need because corporations had grown so large they'd bring the country down with them. The true pro corporation laws are like the repeal of Glass Steagal, which happened just a year after Glass Steagal prevented a giant merger between Citibank and Travelers Group.

Trump's closing loopholes makes it sound good but it's just empty words. His only solid plan is ending tax havens. Somewhat offset by him wanting to lower America's steeply progressive corporate tax.
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>>24471503
How are a nation and people supposed to survive without borders? Literally no one but Trump is willing to even speak of deportation. All the other candidates talk about amnesty and a path to citizenship.
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>>24471503
because he's literally the most qualified candidate for the job, and everyone else is shit. he has a masters in economics and runs a successful business. everyone else are career politicians who created the catastrophic economic fuckup we've had for the last 7-8 years
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>>24471501
liberals =/= socialists
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>>24471525
b-but Huff Po and Colbert told me he's an idiot racist who wants to deport all non-whites!
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>>24471250
Is anyone REALLY voting for this NAZI?

It is 2015, people, not 1934.
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>>24471526
Bernie might be a socialist but the people supporting him are probably just your run of the mill American leftists.
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>>24471511
>He'll say anything to get elected
of course and politician can say anything. I could say that Bernie isn't actually a socialist and is just pretending to be, doesn't mean he isn't a socialist.

>The government does not "protect" large corporations
I would say those lax taxes and loopholes are protecting large corporations senpai
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>>24471522
I agree with you m8 and I vote for a party that wants to deport every last muslim shit out of europe. Maybe Trump is the best candidate but I feel like he isn't enough.

>>24471525
Are you implying that the president actually is the one dealing with practical stuff like this? There's a massive staff for that.
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>>24471554
>NAZI
And you lost the argument right there
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>>24471554
>trump disqualifies Asian beauty queens for being mixed race
this is bullshit

but everything else is BASED
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>>24471565
and? they're not the ones who will be in government, he is.
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>>24471566
Sanders is inspired by socialdemocratic nations aka your typical western europe country. That's hardly socialist.
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>>24471478
Honestly you Americans need to stop polarising themselves into liberals and Conservatives. Can't you see it's a blatant trick to get votes? No, the the other party is not the cause of every thing wrong with America. No, because a policy is the opposite of your enemy's doesn't mean it's right. No, the opposite party is not up to half the shit your selected news sources tell you it is.

I never understood how badly America had the two party disease until I saw Republican and Democrat debates and half of the time it was bashing the other party.
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>WAAAA TRUMP IS BIG BUSINESS BIG GOVERNMENT!
>let's vote in Sanders!
liberals have fucking braincancer
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>>24471580
>hardly socialist
Which is why I'm sure in college he was part of the Young Peoples Socialist League. He's literally a fucking commie.
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I would vote for a third party candidate desu.
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>>24471615
go ahead, throw your vote away
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>>24471511
>He'll say anything to get elected
Sounds familiar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8USRg3h4AdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sk1FoPJc0I
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>Bernie isn't a socialist
Character issues are conjecture, yes.

>>24471566
>the government does not protect corporations

I meant this in the sense that it more resembles passively allowing them to grow. These are just nitpicking with words, what matters is whether the laws help large corporations to grow or not. Trump is very pro large corporation. If he wanted to help small businesses he should lower corporate taxes at the bottom and raise them on top. At least Sanders wants to get the large ones.
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>>24471604
he actually went to the soviet union with his wife when the iron curtain had yet to fall

he also visited nicaragua when the sandinistas were elected

he's completely communist, even if he has to play social democrat to gain power

it's called "entryism"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism#Socialist_entrism
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>>24471604
>I don't know what socialism, communist and social democracy is
I hope you aren't allowed to vote
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>>24471644
Literally just look up his history. Literally a communist. Of course if he came right out and said that then he'd get shat on but its pretty fucking clear by his history, voting record, and his stances what his ideal society would be.
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>>24471554
good enough for me
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ive never voted or had any interest in voting before because it was all faggots who just seemed like they were going to continue rolling a pile of shit up a hill. not to mention my first chance to vote was for a fucking retarded liberal nigger.

but i really want to vote for donald because hes manly and anti sjw and reddit. how would i go about voting?
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>>24471663
I'm not going to argue on how silly character attacks are, but practically speaking, no communist law would be passed in Congress. Even if he was a communist it wouldn't matter.
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>>24471583
>Honestly you Americans need to stop polarising themselves into liberals and Conservatives
Ever been to a college campus in the US?

>Can't you see it's a blatant trick to get votes?
Your point being?

>No, the the other party is not the cause of every thing wrong with America.
Right, who said it was?

>No, because a policy is the opposite of your enemy's doesn't mean it's right.
Jesus christ. Are you really trying to say the reason people want to stop shipping jobs is to do the opposite of the democrats? Really?

>No, the opposite party is not up to half the shit your selected news sources tell you it is.
I'm not the one who has an obviously narrow view on American politics.

>I never understood how badly America had the two party disease until I saw Republican and Democrat debates and half of the time it was bashing the other party.
As if that wouldn't happen if we had more parties. Who are you trying to fool here?
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Because you're a fucking cryptokike surrounded by Jews
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>>24471695
>communist
>character attack

it's the highest compliment you can pay a man tbqh
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>>24471714
no it's an insult
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>>24471695
>character attacks
>literally just pointing out his history with literal fucking communist organizations.
And so what if he couldn't get "communist" legislation passed? That doesn't mean he won't further Americas decline into a socialist shithole
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>>24471724
if you're a classkek who loves his bourgeois masters
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>>24471583
You do realize Trump shits all over both parties right? Thats why his poll numbers are so high. People are sick and tired of both parties. It would do you will if you didn't paint a cartoon like picture of American politics if you want to even pretend to understand them.
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>>24471707
>ever been a college campus in the US
No
>your point being?
It has no grounding. Its a distraction of the issues.
>right, who said it was
Your politicans. You can't deny they bash each other openly.
>people don't want to ship jobs to oppose Democrats
Show me a Democrat that said "I want American jobs to be sent to other countries". My point was you'd vote for anything as long as it's anti Democrat, to the point where you'd make things up about Democrats.
>an obviously narrow view of American politics
I probably do since I hang out on /pol/ so much.
>as if that wouldn't happen with more parties
It would be less of it with other major parties, but that's irrelevant. Your politics is one gaint us vs them. You'd vote for things as long as it's anti Democrat.
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>>24471745
>Capitalism
>Bourgeoisie masters live in luxury and security
>I get fed well

>Communism
>Revolutionary masters live in luxury and security
>I get fed less

The choice is clear.
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>>24471745
is that a castro pepe?
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>>24471732
It's called conjecture, as in visiting the Soviet Union doesn't make you a communist. Like how it's conjecture to say Trump is a corporate candidate who's going to screw all the non wealthy over.

How's he going to further America down a socialist shithole if he can't pass legislations? Do you even know he hasn't proposed a single socialist policy?
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>>24471745
Better than being a soft brain c/u/c/k who votes for a reprobate JEW
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>>24471801
No, it's a fidel pepe
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>>24471795
>I get fed well

after the capitalist skims 80% off your labor, maybe
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>>24471795
Ye but a society like norway or Netherlands where you get more neetbux but it's still not communist is ideal
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>>24471827
Right, although I'd rather have 80% of my labor skimmed off in a capitalist system than 100% of it skimmed off in a communist system.
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>>24471816
>dude free lmao
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>>24471819
as opposed to the world's goodest goy
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>>24471834
I agree, but only if the country is 99% white.
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>>24471834
>a society where the government is your nanny and caretaker and throws you in prison for "hate speech" again Somalians raping your nan
No thanks.
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>>24471842
... And keep your enemies closer. Trump is clearly hiding his power level.
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>>24471861
>h-he's merely pretending!

classkek logic
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>>24471840
>dude memes lmao
Come on its 2015
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>>24471850
Do you actually believe this bullshit or are you just memeing?
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I'm voting Rubio. If Trump wins I'm voting democrat.
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>>24471886
Mostly memes, partly the fact that the second a country lets the state be the heart of its economy, it allows it into the heart of its society. The government should be beholden to the people, not the other way around.
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>>24471903
Are you Hispanic by chance?
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>>24471914
The government is the people in a functional democracy.
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>>24471834
The only ways to make such a society sustainable are highly unpleasant (mass censorship, authoritarian enforcement of tolerance, etc.). I'd be fully supportive of such a state if there were some way to keep the birth rates positive.
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>>24471942
>I'd be fully supportive of such a state if there were some way to keep the birth rates positive.

Oh there is
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>>24471842
he Opposes the general trend of leftist Jews in this country
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>>24471792
>No
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wesleyan-newspaper-black-lives-matter_5602f1efe4b0fde8b0d0f40d
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/14/here-are-eight-campus-rape-hoaxes-eerily-like-the-uva-rape-story/
http://time.com/3910621/emma-sulkowicz-mattress-columbia-rape-video/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/19/student-barred-from-class-for-disputing-rape-statistics/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/free-speech-is-flunking-out-on-college-campuses/2015/10/22/124e7cd2-78f5-11e5-b9c1-f03c48c96ac2_story.html

>It has no grounding. Its a distraction of the issues.
They're talking about issues and contrasting them to the other party. Hardly distracting. If anything it may lead to people seeing if the claims about the other party are true or not.

>Your politicans. You can't deny they bash each other openly.
Are you honestly going to argue that doesn't happen in other countries?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

>Show me a Democrat that said "I want American jobs to be sent to other countries".
https://youtu.be/RFbv2xa0TGc?t=58
Obama saying he doesn't mind that low skill, low wage jobs are going to China, as if that isn't insanity.

>My point was you'd vote for anything as long as it's anti Democrat
Nice assumption, but no. I vote for who I think is going to run the country right. If I think they're both going to be bad (2012 for example) I vote Libertarian so maybe they'll get 1% and they'll get the federal aid that comes with that.

>Your politics is one gaint us vs them.
No it's not. Have you seen the Republican debates? Our system is a two step process. Someone needs to be elected to a party to run for that party, as far as the major parties go at least.
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>>24471633

>tfw no classic simpsons
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>>24471951
I'd also like if it didn't lead to my country being destroyed ten years down the line. You can't really call Nazi Germany sustainable.
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>>24471997
I want high wage, high skill jobs"- Translation I want our young to be forced to be indoctrinated by communistic, college profs in order to be economically productive
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>>24471927
It's idealism. Democracy is a meme. The best and most stable governments are Constitutuonal Republics
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>>24472044
The UK is doing great.
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>>24472065
Well its be fine if it weren't for cultural Marxism and friends.
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>Trump is a meme
>"Trump is a meme" is a meme
How long are people going to keep up the "I'm voting for Trump" joke?
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>>24472137
>Joke
I'm being meme'd
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>>24471250
Like I would ever put Chad in office
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>>24472137
It's like the lefty losers who failed to convert pol came over here to find a soft target
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