What does /r9k/ think of MGTOW?
>>24398354
I've been going my own way for a while, and I didn't need to be spooked by the pussy to do so.
>>24398354
The most rational choice.
MGTOW as a group is a bit silly
But some of the core philosophies are solid and should adopted by more people, incels or otherwise.
While I think it's foolish to deliberately exclude women from your life entirely on principle, things like the idea of not defining yourself by women's approval is a valuable one. No-one should feel depressed about themselves because they aren't sexually selected by a woman. No-one should really be modifying any of their behavior purely for the approval of a woman. Your sense of self-worth should be entirely removed from how women feel about you. The reality is that by doing this, by being a man who can go his own way, you are ultimately making yourself happier as well as more attractive to women.
>>24398514
I diced the red pill and snorted it.
>>24398354
>>24398486
>>24398514
You sound like a bunch of virgins who aren't trying to pass on your genetic information which is your only purpose in being born into this world to begin with. MGTOW is unnatural and would probably be the end of the human race if taken to its logical end by the entire male half of the species.
>>24398514
I was with this image until it went from acknowledging societal injustices into propaganda that is the male version of radical feminism.
>>24398585
>MGTOW is unnatural and would probably be the end of the human race
No, it wouldn't. Women would change their behavior long before that. MGTOW is the way to patriarchy. As are fembots.
>>24398721
>I was with this image until it went from acknowledging societal injustices into propaganda that is the male version of radical feminism.
Then you are only redpilled level 1.
>>24398727
You could make the same argument for male robots pleasing women. Or is the only thing that will keep the human race alive past 100 years from now the invention and perfection of artificial wombs and the like because if I can hook my mind up to a computer and literally program the perfect mate for me then what point would there ever be in having the real thing?
Granted I'm just playing devil's advocate here and trying get a better perspective brother.
>>24398870
>mgtow are a bunch of losers who live in their mom's basements and aren't a natural response to the progressive liberalism that is making being masculine a sin in modern culture
>>24398747
>So level 3 is blatant misogyny and propaganda after all?
>>24398862
>You could make the same argument for male robots pleasing women.
No, you couldn't.
>>24398894
>bunch of losers who live in their mom's basements
>>24398906
Lol misogyny.
>>24398906
Misowhat?
>>24398862
>You could make the same argument for male robots pleasing women
but there's a huge difference in what men want compared to what women want
the perfect gynoid for a man is going to be something that looks like a perfect 15-year-old qt, and if it can do the dishes and cook too then that's a bonus.
but the perfect android for a woman would be something that not only looks good, but does all her chores for her, provides for her, is a millionaire and makes decisions for her. women aren't going to settle for something that just gets them off.
>>24398964
holy shit. who makes shit like this?
>>24398585
Do you even know what mgtow is? They get laid a lot more often than betas that means more likely spreading their genes. There's this neat website called Google. You should check it out sometime. You can use it to look up things you don't know anything about.
>>24398998
Redpilled /pol/acks.
>>24398998
MGTOW
I'm sure at least some of this stuff is ironic, but there are also people who really believe that women aren't human.
>>24398986
Mra us offshoot of feminism. Mgtow is offshoot of redpill which is offshoot of pua. Confusing pua and feminism means you must be one retarded fuck. Do you have a sticky note on the monitor reminding you to breathe?
>>24398939
>making this diagram
>still a virgin
>still frustrated
what do you want to be right about? that women are whores? what's the next step in your master plan when people don't bother to argue with you?
>>24398354
entire life devoted to women they don't even know and/or false sense of pride in their fear of relationships. while they analyze every piece of social media information and discuss anyone and everyone in society, most people don't even know they exist and wouldn't like to. even worse than the virgins who don't know any better but to believe everything on the internet are the dudes who failed their impulsive relationships and now somehow know everything about women, like if you preferred to see a doctor who was rejected from medical school.
nothing different from trannies being proud of their disorders and weak nerds being proud of their incapacity to be aggressive, and fat fucks being proud of their "curves". i wouldn't really say anything about le wrong generation here, but it's become a lot more common to advertise dysfunction and irresponsibility as a "strength," and ultimately pursue the most convenient life even if it means constant misery.
>>24399046
If you think that women are people, prove it.
>>24399075
>making this diagram
>still a virgin
>still frustrated
You're still only a cunt that can't stop using the virgin fallacy.
>>24398992
Well put, robot.
>>24399102
But it's true though. You are a virgin. And if you aren't by some weird rapey or whoremongering way, then someone else who holds your beliefs is, so I win either way.
>>24399147
>But it's true though. You are a virgin.
I think you suffer from inverted virginism, cunt. It's the virgins that are whiteknights. The more women a guy had, the more he considers women scum.
>I'm a strong independent man who don't need no woman
But I have to spam it everywhere on the internet because I'm so insecure about it.
>>24399206
>mfw MGTOW is literally just a copycat reaction to feminists but with memes
>>24399227
Feminism is pretty successful, it controls now the governments and media of the world. Copying feminism doesn't seem a bad idea.
>>24398584
I mainlined that shit
now I don't know what to do with life
I like going to farms in other countries and working for room and board and a low wage though
>>24399244
it won't work
feminism is mostly successful because it preys on men's instinctual desire to protect women.
no-one on society has an instinctual desire to give a flying fuck about men, that's why MRAs and MGTOWs are derided and mocked at best, or charged with crimes if they're unlucky (like Greg Allen Elliott)
>>24398557
I feel the same; I don't formally identify as one because I don't want to be associated with the more retarded aspects and proponents, but the core tenets are sound and pragmatic.
>>24398585
The Japanese herbivores do seem to be taking it to its logical conclusion. By the way look up the behavioral sink.
And if humanity should go extinct because of it, it serves them right for treating men as disposable.
>>24399284
>it won't work
It _is_ already working, albeit for other reasons.
>>24399244
knowing your target demographics and including their interests in your marketing plan doesn't imply giving them control. but even if that was the case, your thinking is that you're going to beat feminists at their own game? don't forget that almost all men are pathetic slaves to whatever women want, too. it's one thing to be a lonely loser who wants attention, it's something else when you want that attention for talking shit about the actual rest of society (as opposed to what feminists do, talking shit about "society" despite getting support from nearly everyone)
>>24399291
That's the beauty of MGTOW. It's not about DOING something. It's about NOT DOING.
>>24399187
post more of these
>>24399384
More of what?
>>24398986
Hilarious. Unfortunately for you MGTOW is immune to shaming tactics and finds you pathetic.
>>24398992
was gonna say this
It's much easier to satisfy men's standards than women's.
Fact is, sexbots are a bigger threat to women than to men, because female sexbots would have far fewer criteria to satisfy for men than male sexbots would have to satisfy for women.
Female sexbots have to look good, be nice, get fucked on demand, and not get fucked by other men. That's it.
Male sexbots on the other hand would have to be charismatic, handsome, hot, funny, have a high status high paying career, style, and be approved by the woman's friends in order to best satisfy feminine imperatives.
The former is obviously much more feasible than the latter.
Synthesizing Stacy is easy as pie; pretty face, hot body, and a wet hole.
Synthesizing Chad is basically impossible.
>>24398514
>being this bitter
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>>24399354
>It _is_ already working, albeit for other reasons.
i don't think so. i don't see anyone really paying any attention, and i don't see many people really identifying as MGTOW.
in real life, i've seen a couple of slightly weird looking dudes holding up MGTOW posters as a form of student protest once. they were doing it at a slutwalk that had like 200-300 female protesters.
by my estimates the MGTOW community is about 1/10th the size of the pro-GamerGate community. it's still pretty insignificant. i'm talking here about people who actively identify as MGTOW compared to people who actively identify as pro-GamerGaters
the community is too small to effect any kind of change from women by itself, the media has barely given them any attention at all, let alone positive attention, and legislators have given them ZERO attention at all (quite the opposite in fact, more pro-female legislation like "rape by deception" is being proposed all the time)
>>24398354
Hello, brother. I'm a MGTOW. It's great. Do what you like.
>>24399399
looks more like femdom fetish porn than male feminism
>>24399147
>someone else who holds your beliefs is, so I win either way
How do you think this is a real argument? Well, someone out there who supports modern feminism is mentally retarded, so I win. (Hint: it's actually you)
>>24399435
>why the fuck is this a tihng
to stop you from posting banal, pointless shit like you just did. next time, don't bother.
>>24399441
Not at the moment maybe, but you need only look at Japan and the herbivore men to see how things can change.
>>24398585
>MGTOW is unnatural and would probably be the end of the human race if taken to its logical end by the entire male half of the species.
>posts picture of an underwear model
The same argument could be made about lifting, trying to look like Justin Tayler, or anything else.
If everyone became a farmer, we'd never have any roads. Herp derp.
>>24398354
am i supposed to agree with this because you took the time to photoshop your shitty views on cool pictures,diagrams with nice font??
>>24399521
that's literally how most kickstarter campaigns are successfully funded
>>24399441
Men are beginning to wake up, look at how much the MRM and anti-feminist sentiment has grown over the last five years.
>>24398354
They're laughably pathetic. What's even funnier is that most of them would drop it in a heartbeat had they had luck with women like chad does.
>>24398747
>>24398939
>>24398964
>>24399037
>>24399084
>>24399102
>>24399187
>>24399354
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>>24399413
These are hysterical. Not hard to see why no one ever takes you guys seriously.
>>24399550
I doubt it, MGTOW is a reaction to male disposability and discrimination against men, not being unattractive.
They'll be taken very seriously when the herbivore trend comes to America, the amount of men refusing to get married is already growing.
>>24398986
I posted these in another thread the other day and it sparked good conversation, so here it is again
relevant to the "where are all the good men/why so many manchildren" bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uYengUXFG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hwXDjbgms
Jordan Peterson is right as usual. Even if he does sound like Kermit.
>>24399542
>Men are beginning to wake up, look at how much the MRM and anti-feminist sentiment has grown over the last five years.
i don't disagree with you there; i think more men and women are waking up to feminist bullshit as time goes on.
but people in positions of power are almost universally pro-feminist. obama not long ago came out repeating to the nation the same tired old wage-gap myth despite the fact the equal pay act has been law for over 50 years. fucking anita sarkeesian and zoe quinn went to the united fucking nations to argue the case for censorship of people who disagree with them.
and just yesterday, university of york cancelled their International Men's Day 2015 event because a handful of feminists wrote a letter claiming it was inherently "misogynistic rhetoric" to talk about the male suicide epidemic. this is the same university that celebrated and created a week's worth of events for International Women's Day 2015. the day before they cancelled it, the 4th male student committed suicide that year (compared to 1 female student).
sure, more men and women know feminism is bullshit, but in terms of actual change, there has been zero. in fact, it's getting worse for men, day by day.
and while i'm optimistic for the future because i believe that eventually society will come around, i also believe it's going to get a lot worse for men before it gets any better.
>>24399606
>MGTOW is a reaction to male disposability and discrimination against men, not being unattractive.
Not a chance. Nothing more than fox and the grapes. I find it tastefully ironic that one of those images mentions women hating something that would not benefit them or take away their privileges yet incelibate MGTOWs do the exact same thing: rebel against a system that does not favor them. The current system doesn't not favor men, just weak pathetic beta bitchboys who can't measure up in society. MGTOWs constantly spout snippets evolutionary biology as a basis for woman being materialistic whores, but it's that same biology that makes them selective. They're just mad because they don't get picked, so to speak.
>They'll be taken very seriously when the herbivore trend comes to America,
o i am laffing
>>24399612
huh, post I was replying to was deleted so I'll re-post
>>24398894
That's exactly what they are.
Sign of maturity and being a man is responsibility associated with starting a family and being productive member of society. That's how you grow up from childhood.
"mgtow's" and other mra derivatives are bottom of the barrel incompetent males who dream of the good olden' days of arranged marriages by mom and dad and maybe even slave ownership for the more deranged cases.
My only worry is that group of men will get more and more desperate and could become a source of sexual crime. But I hope the government realizes that will take action accordingly.
>>24399435
>shitposts
>complains about the robot
>>24399700
Unfortunately for you, the days of men being disposable providers and protectors of women are coming to an end.
>>24398354
MGTOW really only works for people that are attractive to begin with. They are exactly the type of people that have copious amounts of sex but do not want to settle down so they say they 'go their own way' pumping and dumping. It just happens to be that there are a few confused incels who want to be just like those guys and think the group is for losers like us.
>>24399749
Even if they are unattractive it deprives women of beta orbiters.
>>24399700
top kek
"bottom of the barrel" by men's standards, or by women's? Are we comparing to the top 20% of men, or the middle of the bell curve? By what metric are you bashing the men who honestly appraise women's value and decide to identify with other men who have opted out of marriage in favor of their own goals?
I'm excited to see what happens with the student debt bubble, desu.
Men can't consistently outcompete the government in funding women's modern lifestyles. The only reason it's happening currently is that this is hidden behind mountains of debt taken on by students, parents, and the gov't. One at a time, men are waking up and refusing to bail out women by marrying them.
And this marriage drought is coming at an interesting time. That student debt bubble is starting to reveal itself. Women have more debts and worse degrees. Things are going to turn sour in the next 10 years for a huge number of women, and we'll see how many men want to take on the debt of washed-up SJW-spouting Stacies.
Male Angst is why I cry, MGTOW 'til I die.
>>24399749
Some of us date. I've been with my gf for 6 years. never getting married, never having children, will kill her if she attempts any shenanigans, and she knows this.
You can be a MGTOW however you want, but you probs shouldn't get married, and cohabitation is right out in most places.
>>24399681
>Nothing more than fox and the grapes.
Don't make 'Women are shit' the mantra of your life. You'll just come off as a crying cunt, like the Feminist who makes 'Men are shit' her mantra.
If you don't like the modern woman, then just disregard them, don't spend time thinking about them and how you hate them.
That being said, most of these MGTOW fellas wouldn't be able to get a woman anyway so it's borne out of desperate betas looking for a reason to lash out due to their lack of mating potential. Just disregard the whores and get on with your lives you sad sacks of cum.
>>24399441
>and i don't see many people really identifying as MGTOW.
MGTOW is not a movement. MGTOW is an attitude. Men are MGTOW without calling it "MGTOW" and without knowing that MGTOW exists.
>>24399441
>it's still pretty insignificant. i
What about that pic >>24399354 don't you understand, troll. MGTOW has already a huge impact.
Tradcons and feminazis are pathetic, they actually think that if they keep shaming MRAs and MGHOWs they will just go back to being disposable providers and protectors of women.
>>24399681
tick tock, biological clock
>>24399402
No more plantation.
>>24398354
I try but I'm so fucking lonely and bored
>>24399992
>What about that pic >>24399354 don't you understand, troll.
the part where it's just one guy giving his opinion and two fairly empty assertions about why some men might be unemployed.
>44% of men said there were jobs in the area that they weren't willing to take
gosh, so a bunch of unemployed men don't want to stoop to menial labor and would rather play video games an collect NEETbux?
how exactly is that a "huge impact"?
and for what it's worth, i was specifically referring to the positive impact of MGTOW, not the negative impacts of feminism.
>>24400064
Implying that MGTOWs don't have sex.
>>24399749
I mgtow with a single long-term fwb. I've told her I don't believe in marriage but that I expect sexual exclusivity. We've been together 6 years and the arrangement works. All I want is a warm hole to cum in and then cuddle a bit. I try to see her at least once a week. Sometimes I'm busbusy, sometimes I'm not or I'm extra horny and find time despibeing usybusy
Despite being busy is what above should read.
We have our own lives and she's kind of aa spergy retard.I'd be sad to lose her but I'm set on no marriage and made her get an iud 2 years ago. That should work until I get vasalgel.
>>24400082
>to the positive impact of MGTOW
The positive impact of MGTOW is that men feed the beast (the women-privileging system/government) as little as possible.
>so a bunch of unemployed men
44% = a bunch. Yup you're just a troll, or stormweenie or cunt.
It's funny to see how much cognitive dissonance is needed by these pathetic betas to convince themselves that the reason they are still virgins and can't attract anyone is because they choose to instead of because they are losers that no one would ever love.
I mean you have even created a movement to spread your pathetic excuses to all the other betas so it sounds more legitimate, it's like a little child yelling about how much he doesn't want something in the hopes that someone will give it to him.
>>24400111
Wow, so much butthurt in one post. Sorry, shaming doesn't work anymore.
>>24400109
>44% = a bunch. Yup you're just a troll, or stormweenie or cunt.
??? what are you even talking about?
the quote is referring to a poll commissioned by the New York Times of unemployed people. 44% of the male respondents said they didn't want to take a shitty job. they weren't asked why. it's not 44% of the entire population unemployed because of MGTOW or some shit like you seem to believe.
did you even look at your own image?
>>24399929
>things that didn't happen
I find it cute how you guys try to justify your actions.
>>24400039
Not like I can have children anyway. Nor do I need a provider. Your point is null. And to answer your image, the reason for that is because that is the only way you can respond to me without any actual substance to your argument. You guys hate when women use the "you're just a lonely pathetic virgin" yet you indulge yourself in the same smear tactics you like to chastise others for. You guys are nothing more than the other side of the same coin that is radical feminism.
>>24400131
>DON'T BETA SHAME SHIT LORD
>DON'T VIRGIN SHAME
As a fellow virgin, I still think you're one pathetic FUCK
>>24400111
>it's like a little child yelling about how much he doesn't want something in the hopes that someone will give it to him.
Lolwut? This must be the stupidest example I have ever heard.
>>24398354
The theory is fine but giving it a name and preaching it just makes you look even more thirsty and pathetic. Sour grapes, that's all.
>>24400109
>The positive impact of MGTOW is that men feed the beast (the women-privileging system/government) as little as possible.
i disagree, the positive impact of MGTOW would be change of the social dynamics such that men and women are treated equally both legally and socially.
such a change has not happened, but is one possible outcome that MGTOW could achieve should it reach a critical mass.
MGTOW only exists because it is a stance against certain legal injustices and social attitudes towards men. were those injustices and attitudes to change, MGTOW would go away. that is the goal of MGTOW. that is the positive change MGTOW seeks to effect.
>>24400151
>it's not 44% of the entire population unemployed
US has 100 million out of work. 44% of 50 million = approx 25 million men.
That money they suck out from the welfare state and don't pay as taxes. Plus unmarried unhappy cunts.
White cunts' suicide rate is rising by the way. Wonderful.
MGTOW is already working.
>>24400177
See this
>>24399929
Save me the trouble of posting it again.
>>24400177
Not as pathetic as you are. What kind of person thinks that being a disposable bodyguard and living ATM is a good thing?
>>24398354
I think it's the Beta Uprising.
>>24400232
>living ATM
>>24400245
Or maybe a Chad manouvre to take more women from others.
It's funny how losers who couldn't get laid if their life depended on it are the ones most into the MIGTOW movement... Just an observation!
>>24399929
Foxes don't eat grapes
>>24400293
Not everyone is a sex-obsessed normie, norman.
Besides, it's not even the point, MGTOW first and foremost is about refusing relationships with women, sex is optional.
Most betas can find a woman to settle with and have some sex if they are willing to betabux away. But some people have some self-respect.
Losers always existed anyway, at least now they are becoming self aware and are refusing to play the game just because they "should".
>>24400293
You have a citation of course? I thought not.
>>24400221
>US has 100 million out of work
[citation needed], because last i heard the unemployment rate was more like 5%. i'm willing to bet you're including retirees and children in that statistic for some reason.
>This one slut who thinks denying us her holes makes her opinion matter
>>24400293
>doesn't want to play the game
LOSER LOL
>plays the game
GO AWAY YOU FUCKING CREEP, COME BACK WHEN I'M NOT AS MUCH GOOD LOOKING AND MY BIOLOGICAL CLOCK IS TICKING
ITT
>roasties getting toasties
>whiteknights being KekS
As Usual fellow robots
female friends are a waste of time
>>24398354
Interesting enough but I feel feminist are doing more harm than good complaining about it. I mean if they truly wanted equal rights they shouldn't give a shit about dudes refusing to populate this dying planet with another NEET
>>24400293
>It's funny how losers who couldn't get laid if their life depended on it are the ones most into the MIGTOW movement... Just an observation!
you really think this guy couldn't get a partner if he wanted one?
>>24399681
>>24400313
Grapes are poison to foxes.
Dat poetic justice.
I have a girlfriend and we love each other and it's fine. She makes a lot more money than I do, and gives me a lot of emotional support, makes me food, gives me footrubs, Etc even though she works a lot harder than I do. The only thing I can really give to her is emotional support and companionship, and she's content with that. Why should I subscribe to any of this nonsense?
>>24401632
so NAWALT but you idiots always forget one thing, majority of women are like that you braindead moron
>>24401722
I'm not living with the majority of women. And I'm entirely certain you haven't met the majority of women--I'd go as far as to guess that your experience with women is generally narrow.
this entire philosophy, if one can deign to grace it with such a label, is individually self-serving by design. There's no larger-scale social goal, just an aggressive system of tactics where the end goal is the elimination of respect for others, because it's inconvenient to recognize mutual humanity, and the gain of personal reward without personal effort.
So again, what gain is there for me to subscribe to a vitriolic system of baseless aggression other than showing "solidarity" for a tiny group of self-deluded angry little men that have far less in common with me than the average woman?
faggots
>We r beyond women we swear!!!
>Literally all they talk about is women
