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Depression and suicidal thoughts are natural. Society wants to
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Depression and suicidal thoughts are natural. Society wants to keep you alive so you can work work work.
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>>24397711
Very true. I don't see a counter-argument to what you are saying. Here's the deal with suicide as an action and making it illegal: We like to think that we live in a free-will universe where we have control over our own actions and thoughts. However society as a whole does not recognize this very simple fact and so we get into laws governing how someone should go about their everyday life and what is and isn't acceptable that they are able to do with themselves. Suicide can be seen as the ultimate expression of one's own ability to have complete control over their destiny. To be able to end your own life, not have it withered away by time, by working for others, by the collective deeming you unworthy and placing you in some sort of box. Honestly the right to end your own life is the ultimate expression of your own free will, am I wrong?
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>>24398020
suicide is illegal because it's destruction of government property
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>>24398076
Yeah pretty much.
>but muh created equal!
Well we're human property to the state which is our true God.
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>>24397711
If you kill yourself, the normies win.
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>>24398152
That's a spook and you know it.
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>>24398185
Well it's true. If us robots aren't around, who's going to keep the normies at bay?
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>Stress, loneliness, depression, boredom-the madness of everyday life. Ever-greater levels of sadness, implying a recognition, on the visceral level at least, that things could be different. How much joy is there left in the technological society, this field of alienation and anxiety? Mental health epidemiologists suspect that no more than twenty percent of us are free of psychopathological symptoms. Thus we act out a "pathology of normalcy" marked by the chronic psychic impoverishment of a qualitatively unhealthy society.
http://www.spunk.org/texts/writers/zerzan/sp001182.txt
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>>24398206
So somehow our very presence is going to keep normies at bay? By how, our lower chances and numbers of reproduction? And thus our way of life and experiences will be seen by history and just a sad dark age churned by the surge of technology? We need a bit more proactive strategy here anon.
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>>24398251
Well killing ourselves won't help, anon.
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Depression and suicidal thoughts are absolutely not natural you absolute dredge of human waste.

Natural selection has built in us survival mechanisms so we won't go extinct. The point is to reproduce and pass on your lineage. Not to kill yourself and have your entire ancestral background be for nothing.

You're spitting on the graves of all the poor fuckers who endured harsh winters and rabid animals just so you can shitpost like a faggot NEET on the internet thousands of years later.
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>>24397711
>tfw someone caps your post
Tree's doing fine, I'm getting a ladder to pick the fruit today.
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>>24397711

I'm glad you see the truth too anon. True enlightenment is to embrace the void.
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>>24398308
>normies are capable of this kind of anger
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>>24398207

this is all a product of better education, longer lives, and less backbreaking work. when man rises above the basic urge to keep his biological machine running he sees the futility of it all.
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>>24398308

Why do any of those things matter? Why do my ancestors matter? My existence was involuntarily thrust upon me. I owe them nothing.
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>>24398334
Hit a sensitive spot I presume?

If you want to be miserable and shitpost about it that's cool but the facts aren't exactly on your side. There's more evidence to prove that the willingness to strive forward in the face of adversity is more natural than quitting like a faggot and blaming your depression on society.
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>>24398372
>>24398308
>REEEEEE STOP HAVING FEELINGS AND MEMORIES REEEEE
Normalfags are so fucking retarded I swear to god. They enjoy getting kicked, wagekeked, plain keked, all that shit. How insane and retarded do you have to be to actually think being alive now is good.
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>>24398372
keep raging into the abyss and pretending any of this has value or meaning above what you ascribe to it

I'll be enjoying eternal freedom in nonexistence
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>>24398368
It's a slippery slope I guess you could say.

>>24398396
>REEE why aren't you a sad sack of shit like me REEE be depressed like me, if you're not depressed you're not natural

And you call me retarded? How about grow a backbone you thin-skinned beta c U CK
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>>24398402
so deep bro

dude pass the joint lmao
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>>24398396
Youre right anon :(

This 3d world of ours is scary and cold

I want to be happy thats all I want I dont care if its a gf or drugs or money i just want to be happy i dont want to suffer please please please
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>>24397711
>kill myself
>wake up
>find out I was in a coma the whole time
>tfw what you thought was reality was just a nightmare
>your waifu is real and is actually your wife, you were just remembering her
I fucking wish all of that could be possible, it would make everything so much more bearable.
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>>24397711
bullshit. Survival instinct is the strongest incting of every living beign. If you die, society fucked you up too hard.
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>>24398449
>3rd world

Where do you live m8?
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>>24398436
And i suppose you thought your little remark there was clever?
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Yeah but have you seen these dubs?
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>>24398462
i could say the same thing about you :^)
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>>24398459
3d as in not anime newfriend
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>>24398459
Not 3rd, 3d. Keep up.
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>>24398436

dripping with insecurity
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>>24398478
>>24398484
misread
So you wanna live in your chinese cartoons. Good ol escapism
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>>24398292
I agree, we as a whole are stronger if we choose to live together and to work together. What I'm saying is, how are we letting the "normies" win by not killing ourselves? Simply choosing not to fight might win the round but not the match anon.

>>24398308
That isn't even a decent argument anon. You are saying to do the right thing because that is what is expected of you. When as a human being you should be advocating doing the right thing because you honestly believe in your heart that you are doing good by yourself or your ancestors or for God or whatever you are getting at in your post.
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>>24398506
Well when the robots are away, the normies will play. If you kill yourself, nothing will get better.
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>>24398503
It's as valid a philosophy as any.
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>>24398506
The primary argument was that we have a built in survival instinct that's a response to real-world threats, thus making self-preservation natural

You guys are fixating and sperging over the ancestors part
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>>24398524

>implying I still have enough of an ego to care about 'normies'
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>>24398533
escapism is a philosophy now?

alright. if you want to live in denial of the world around you and call it a philosophy that's entirely your choice.
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>>24398538

appeals to nature are not arguments so we talked about the only actual argument you made
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>>24398450
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>>24398564

thanks for your permission
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>>24398506
Really, 'the right thing' in any context should be to diminish the overall quantity of suffering in the world. If you can never truly be happy, then the only way to do this would be to kill yourself. In doing so, you help bring the universe closer to its natural equilibrium in which suffering doesn't exist in any quantity.
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>>24398308
Dolphins were reported to commit suicide so yeah, suicide is natural like anything else we are doing, but still
>it is natural so it is completely ok maymay
>rape is natural
>killing is natural
also
>You're spitting on the graves of all the poor fuckers who endured harsh winters and rabid animals
Im sure they did it thinking that future generations will be grateful, not to fucking survive. Noone owes anyone anything, get over it. By the way people that invented computers which would let you write this pretentious shit wouldn't have a chance to survive in the wild like those you are talking about, so what was the point to talk about them.
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>>24398152

The normies already won
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>>24398564

>implying i live in denial when neither you or i even have concrete proof the other exists

you're the one wasting your time
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>>24398578

fake deep/10

nothing, the concept of nothing, is the only absolute truth
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>>24398608
nigger what the fuck are you saying. i'm right here, you want me to post a picture of my dick to prove I exist or something?
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>>24398524
Again, you make no sense.

>>24398538
Who else but our ancestors and their genetic memories to pass on these survival instincts? What about the ancestor part is wrong to fixate over?

>>24398577
So inherently existence is suffering? Well to be real with you if that's your core philosophy then suicide should be a real option for you because just by existing you believe that you will never achieve a state any higher than suffering, since existing is such a burden to you.
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>>24398586
>look it up
>dolphin commits suicide
>after he stops getting handjobs from owner
Is it bad if I want to kill myself over not having sexual release?
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>>24398670
In a completely neutral and objective response, it is perfectly reasonable for an animal to commit suicide if it believes that it will be unable to pass on its genetic material. Which is just as important as food or water to be completely honest when it comes to survival needs of an animal or species.
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Work work work?

Are you kidding me? I think most work this days is frivolous and replaceable. We are in the deathrattle of "the working man". Enjoy it while it lasts. I'm sure everyone would have much more fun playing "blame the welfare receiver" than actually thinking about what tot do when all of our jobs are automated.
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>>24397711
Lol cheer up faggot.
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