Going to try 5-htp to see if it will improve my mood and reduce my anxiety. I just took my first capsule an hour ago. I think I feel some subtle effect already. Is this the normie pill?
It's pretty subtle but it works fairly well imo
Used to combine it with St. John's Wort (something that might not be entirely safe in all cases) back when I cared enough to medicate myself into not feeling bad
>>24390645
>I just took my first capsule an hour ago. I think I feel some subtle effect already.
anon discovers the placebo effect
>>24390645
Take Sam-E instead.
It's more expensive but it's worth it.
That feel you have right now is pure placebo. Take it for a few weeks and you might "feel" different. It's not going to turn you into a confidence filled, happy-go-lucky normie but yes, it'll help stabilize your mood. Neuro student reporting in for questions I might have context on
I used to eat this shit like candy during my rave days so I could roll every night.
>>24390978
Explain this supplement to me as someone who's never heard of it before.
>>24391299
Boost serotonin levels
>>24390978
>neuro student
So you should also be aware then that real SSRI anti-depressants have consistently tested about as effective as a placebo in cases of mild-to moderate depression
I use it before, and especially after, using ecstasy to help with serotonin levels. I'm sure there'll be some faggot who tells me it doesn't do anything, but it makes me feel better so whatever.
Here are some actual herbs that actually work, you can thank me later losers.
>Ashwaganda
This will basically nuke your anxiety away.
>Kava kava
Helps but not as good as ashwaganda, good for mild anxiety/sleeping
>Phenibut
Not an herb, helps a fuck load though with anxiety.
All legal, all available online. They changed my life.
>>24390645
I bought some 5HTP a while ago and every time I take one of them I get a really uncomfortable upset stomach. Hopefully it doesn't work so that I'm not missing out on something useful.
>>24390645
I've been using it for a year now. Stopped using it 2 days ago because it was making me stupid, brain fogs or something, and I need to study. It also gave me horrible headaches and killed muh boners sometimes.
>>24390645
I used to take that and L-tryptophan and honestly I never felt better.
>>24391356
Actually, taking them before using XTC can lead to seratonin syndrome. You should probably Google that to make sure you're using it correctly.
>>24391393
>All legal, all available online.
Kava is restricted in some countries like Australia.
>>24391299
Neurofag here. The other guy said it basically how it is. 5-htp is serotonin which works opposite to SSRI's or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. SSRIs are what your doctor gives you for depression and mood and basically works by blocking the proteins that take serotonin out of the synapses between your neurons. By taking serotonin its thought that it might increase your serotonin levels, but the chances of ingesting 5htp and it actually making a neurological difference is slim. Like 80% of serotonin is used in the gut so by ingesting small amounts it'll likely never reach your brain.
If I were you and I reallllly wanted to give it a try, I'd double the dose it says and eat them on an empty stomach perhaps right in the morning 45min to an hour before you eat breakfast to hopefully have it make it to your bloodstream and cross the blood brain barrier. And that's IF serotonin can cross the blood brain barrier. Its a fairly large molecule so I'm honestly not entirely sure
>>24390859
It's real to, just kinda subtle. I felt a slight warm glow inside.
>>24390645
Don't forget to take them on an empty stomach, insulin totally negates its effect.
>>24391330
the problem with that study is that the severity of depression in that study is based off of the HDRS, which while it is probably the best tool we have, is still not a very good way to truly evaluate just *how* depressed someone is
Furthermore people who are in the mild-moderate depression category tend to have their depression stem from external factors- losing a job, having a tragic event in one's life, tfw no gf, etc. Of course a pill won't help as much in those cases
you're referencing the 2010 jama or nejm right? (i cant remember between the two)
>normie pill
>not phenibut
>>24391480
>to
*Though
It's the current time so im really tired (dutchfag here) srry
>>24391330
SSRIs work differently for everyone. Its still a fairly new branch. I'm not going to argue what you said because its somewhat true for some people. But its unfair to say its all bullshit placebo. We know mostly why it works for people but we just don't entirely understand why it doesn't work for others aswell. This is why SSRI research is a huge thing. I work in a pharmacy and people taking SSRIs find a benefit in them, so to me, the important part is that it makes them feel better with nearly no serious side effects
>>24391477
>If I were you and I reallllly wanted to give it a try, I'd double the dose it says and eat them on an empty stomach perhaps right in the morning 45min to an hour before you eat breakfast to hopefully have it make it to your bloodstream and cross the blood brain barrier.
This will make you feel sick. I've tried it before based on this same advice.
>>24390645
that+L-theanine+D3
>>24391393
any downsides to ashwaganda?
>>24391538
Thanks for the correction, I wasn't aware it'd make you nauseous. Was it doctor prescribed advice or some retard on 4chan like me?
>>24391535
> I work in a pharmacy
> Promoting the pharmaceutical jew
>>24391598
People on 4chan say to take it on an empty stomach to feel it more. Maybe it does work for them but it makes me nauseous.
The only way I can take 5-HTP without that problem is to take it with food but that may negate the effects it can have. When I tried it I took it for only 2 weeks but I did not notice a difference in my mood.
>>24391560
I already take the D but maybe I will have to get L-theanine. Does it make a big difference?
>>24391649
>People on 4chan say to take it on an empty stomach
yes read >>24391480
>I did not notice a difference in my mood.
It's pretty subtle. In return, it doesn't seem to have any side effects.
This is always a tradeoff with drugs.
>>24390645
this shit made me chill around people but also drowsy as fuck in general, i barely could drive desu
that shit gives you liver damage stop
only take it if u have the prescription drug that stops it being metabolized in the liver, otherwise u are harming urself.
OP here I don't think it's placebo, usually I can make myself feel anxious just by myself but trying right now it seems to have taken the edge off. Also now feeling a bit of drowsiness. Like I said not a very pronounced effect.
desnt work for me. Now I only use it the day after taking MDMA.
Do noporn and nofap to stop abusing your reward system. Your dopamine levels will get back to healthy levels and you can actually enjoy life again.
Stop eating sugar because it also damages your reward system.
Also go vegan. Fresh fruit and veges are full of natural sources of seretonin and dopamine.
>>24392070
>Do noporn and nofap
>go vegan
Might as well kill myself while I'm at it
>>24391477
according to wikipedia it does cross the blood brai barrier
>>24392247
Except that most of those things I'm suggesting you give up are only pleasurable in a very fleeting sense. If you get your dopamine levels ordered, the world becomes magical again, you begin to love engaging with things, learning new things, even dealing with people is significantly less tiring (I'm saying this as a highly introverted wizard).
>>24392413
Any tips on dropping porn? I can't go more than 5 days without jacking off and just do it out of boredom
>>24392560
There are a variety of things you could try. If you use Firefox, Install leechblock. You can set up a ban or an allow list, setup a password and basically lock yourself out (put the password somewhere where you'll have to go to an effort to get it, so you don't just disable leechblock the moment you're tempted). You can also set your monitor to black and white only while you're attempting to reset - I've found that the colours of porn are a major 'trigger' for relapse. If you come on 4chan you might have to disable images from loading automatically.
>>24392413
I've been abusing my dopamine system since I was like 8. I have autism and the rise of god tier hedonistic devices such as the computer was really my downfall.
I've tried hiking for a week in the wild (didnt see a singe screen) and within hours of coming back home I was back to my default level of depression.There is no turning back from this.
>>24392930
>and within hours of coming back home I was back to my default level of depression
Because of porn?
If that's the case you need to setup your computer to be in complete lockdown so you simply can't access porn at any time you're online. It can mean a lot of inconveniences in other ways but the benefits will be immense.
>>24393042
>Unironically recommending nofap
I've done nofap for like 10 days but then I got so many raging hard boners all the time that I just had to fap. It only works if you are addicted to porn.
Me, I just watch it like every 2-3 days for 10 minutes. How else am I supposed to combat tfw of no gf?
>>24393104
Teach yourself not to tolerate sexual images in your mind. The moment one arises, note it and start thinking about something else instead. Train yourself not to focus on sexual thoughts.
>>24391393
phenibut is a fucking godsend, some anon a while ago recommended it in a thread and i love him for it
my first dose was only 1.5g and i felt completely calm for the first time in YEARS, that feeling of anxiety in your gut just completely disappears for 8+ hours depending on how much you take
also i've had some intense dreams and fantastic naps while on it
>>24390645
So I was looking at the pricing of 5HTP on Amazon on some of the products say they suppress appetite. I am pretty skinny and am trying to gain weight and have to force myself to eat because I dont have an appetite.
>does it decrease appetite?
>what are some of the side effects?
>>24393151
>Teach yourself not to tolerate sexual images in your mind
This works for a while, but like I said after a week or so it happens even when I am doing something else, like studying. I'm a 21 yr old male who lifts so I guess I'm pretty high test.
I suppose it will go down a lot when I'm like 30, but for now, a fap a day keeps the feels away.
>>24393215
Ok, why not try doing it once a week, though?
>>24393326
I used to but then I relapsed when I was particularly down. I'll try again starting now!
>>24393182
I have read in other descriptions that say "kills cravings" which I think is more apt based off how I've felt the last few hours. I have appetite trouble as well and I just ate a snack and my actual appetite doesn't seem affected.
>>24391480
Placebo is real
A better drug is go quit being a little faggof
>>24392396
Its also not serotonin but a building block/intermediate.
nb Not that it really matters.
>>24393104
Chastity cage, associate sexual pleasure with pain.
