What is it about us that we can't get gfs? There are people uglier than us with gfs, people with shittier personalities, disabled people, people with social anxiety all with gfs.
I just can't pinpoint exactly what is wrong with us.
Many of us have bigger problems that we should solve before getting a gf but we make something completely out of our reach our goal so we can wallow in misanthropy instead of changing it. Robots at least.
plenty of people here have gfs
The only thing that unites "us" is that we don't have gfs.
Combination of fear and limited opportunities.
>>24353881
Simple. Inferior genetics exacerbated by poor conditioning due to exposure to less-than-ideal environments
It's a certain combination of those plus the fact that we are usually not in the right place at the right time to find people that like us enough to look past the bad.
i don't know
sometimes i feel I am being punished for what i did in a past life
or maybe I'm dead and this is hell...i guess that's the most realistic option
Not wanting to settle for the ugly fat chicks we deserve.
>>24353888
this, desu.
it also doesn't help that there are simple ways to improve life bit by bit but the majority of lil' bots seem to wait for things to be given on a silver platter. i'm sure most of the guys here could snag a cure significant other if they work around their issues and find ways to cope.
It's not like having a relationship automatically means your issues will be over, but believing you're okay is one step to achieving peace.
>>24353881
>Shittier people
Doubtful. No one is shittier than a 'robot'.
Society, and especially women, has been conditioned to find a specific set of social characteristics attractive, characteristics which we lack in an order of magnitude far below average.
>>24353941
>it also doesn't help that there are simple ways to improve life bit by bit but the majority of lil' bots seem to wait for things to be given on a silver platter
>people keep using this meme
Well, I can't speak for all of us but for me it's a combination of a lot of things. If you compare me to a female's ideal boyfriend I come up short in almost every criteria. Where do I even start..
>mildly ugly (~4/10)
>live with parents
>NEET, no job, no money
>No car
>Social skills need serious work (think swag or game)
>No social status (this one is really important, only recently have I started to realize how attracted women are to status)
Just a manchild in general. Almost the polar opposite of what a woman usually wants. What we really need is a mommy gf, someone who will bully our dicks (you know you would enjoy it senpai) and nurture us until we can reach at least a marginal level of manhood but that's nothing more than a fantasy.
I have problems, man. Mommy problems. I think a lot of this board does.
>>24353990
it sounds like a load of bull, i know, but it really is true. but whatever, who cares.
>>24353906
>There are people uglier than us with gfs, people with shittier personalities, disabled people, people with social anxiety all with gfs.
OP just mentioned that.
>>24354017
Keep on rolling on with those strawmen you have there
>>24353965
Another meme
>>24353881
Maybe your cult mentality, faggot.
Because we are looking for that undefiled, pure, Virgin qt. We don't find them because they don't exist once they reach the age of 18. We will continue our search regardless. Call it thickheaded boldness if you must.
>>24353965
You'd be surprised. It is true I am a parasite sucking on the blood that is your tax dollars while posting in this shithole and breathing your oxygen. It's also true that I and most of us are completely benevolent, law abiding citizens. I'm actually very generous even with the little I have, I would give you the shirt of my back if only you asked for it. You can't put people with severe social problems in the same category as murderers, rapists, etc. It doesn't make any sense, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. There's no real rehabilitation for people like us either because as of right now we are a fringe group, I think that will change here quickly as more young adults struggle to find work and live at home later and later into their 20s. Young men in particular are dropping out in record numbers. It isn't even recognized as a problem yet but it will be. Today it's me. Tomorrow it's your kids. Mark my words.
>>24353941
>it also doesn't help that there are simple ways to improve life bit by bit
Can we stop this meme? I have a good life other than having no friends and being lonely as fuck. I'm financially successful, sociable, fit, keep my self washed, etc... but I still have no friends and I still am a KHV. There's nothing more I can do to improve my life.
>>24353993
Getting these things doesn't matter, I have a car and a good job and I still don't have a gf. Being attractive is the only thing that matters
>>24354048
Please leave normie, this is a robot board
>>24354085
Epic meme dude
I wonder why you don't have a gf :-|
>>24354077
then learn to live with it. jesus it's not that hard. get hobbies, enjoy your own company, do whatever makes you happy. look for an answer to it. or seek help. depression is a bitch.
>>24354077
I'm at the stage where the only thing I could "improve" is my lack of love life also.
I wish they'd just stop giving the runaround and just tell us what exactly is wrong.
>>24354048
>Implying the masses don't have a cult mentality
"We are many but we are one" is a common ideology for normies.
>>24353881
>What is it about us that we can't get gfs?
I don't talk to other people unless I have to
>>24354111
>using the term depression so liberally when the guy established that he has everything but friends and a gf
lol
>>24353965
most normal people treat me far worse than robots do
>>24353881
here is what i think: our personalities are very "inward" and self contained. there's just nothing for women to connect to.
>>24354119
Do you live in a third world country or something? There are many sects of people. You just like generalizing everyone so you feel comradery with other fuck ups.
>>24354113
>they
There you go again, dismissing the possibility that there are multiple people of variance, it's 'us' or 'them'.
>>24353881
>want gf
>aggressively hate myself
>foolishly hoping that maybe someone finding some worth in me would make me want to live life, if only to make them happy by taking better care of myself for them
>>24354083
Are you sure you have lowered your standards enough? Maybe you're completely oblivious when someone is actually interested? You're socially active and actively meet new women?
I'm like a 3-4/10 and I still managed to get a girlfriend, granted it was a landwhale but a gf nonetheless..
I have to stress the part about being socially active the most. It sounds cliche but it is a numbers game.
>>24354177
>when someone is actually interested
Damn nigga, that's a funny ass joke.
>>24354177
whats the point in even having a gf if shes a legit landwhale
>>24354162
Most women dislike yes men, you may all be edgy online but you are most likely yes men irl.
They like mystery, someone who challenges them. Not all of them mind you, but most women don't like boring people, even if you're the most interesting person online, you aren't that interesting in real life. Your two personas have a vast experience gap.
>>24354077
This
Social 'skills' are innate. They cannot be learned. For the past 5 years I've really been working hard on it and I onlonsee marginal improvement see. That is more due to hiding power levels than anything though. My social skills are exactly the same.
>>24353965
Murderers and rapists and people who are a scourge to society are better than robots?
>get a psycho girl to say love within a week
> hot Latino girl I tried to date in high school says her friends ask her who that cute guy she's with is
> lose virginity to 3/10 at 19
> fucked friend and she never talks to me again
> haven't gotten laid in 3 years
>try meeting a GUY on tinder to see if maybe I'm gay
>suckered his Dick for 5 mins
>can't tell if gay of it didn't like his tiny Dickinson
Now I sit at home workout and avoid all contact with girls because I don't know how to talk to them
>>24354212
If you're autistic, yes.
If you have any sort of intelligence you can easily learn how to be social.
>>24354177
>I'm like a 3-4/10 and I still managed to get a girlfriend, granted it was a landwhale but a gf nonetheless.
Woah buddy, hold it right there. Saying you have a landwhale for a gf is equivalent to you wanting to fuck a dude. No thanks anon, I would rather die a virgin than date a nigger magnet.
>>24353881
I'm just worthless, I can't make anyone happy.
We're boring, our emotions have become blunted and inexpressable on the outisde. we seem to lack life force and vitality. not only that but women can sense when guys like us just desperately WANT them for happiness and to have some meaning in life, this scares the hell out of them so they back the hell away. they dont want a guy who needs to be with them in order to feel happy
>>24354163
Various different people can still give you the same vague, staged advice.
>>24353941
I started doing this quit a few years back, slowly improved myself while being NEET.
Got /fit , educated myself, started up my own internet-biz to sustain myself, still live with parents though, since they're cool. Pay for rent though. Got a car. Got myself out there and meet with women.
But whatever I do, I can't get passed the first 2 dates. First date is ok, usually with me talking about where I've been and what I did, since the woman has near to no interests. (been around the world with parents as their dolmetscher a lot, do quite a few sports like windsurfing, kiteing snowboarding so I have my share of storys)
Second date we usually do something together like going out together, or some chill thing like playing billiard together, stuff where you can goof around without feeling constrained, so that I can gauge her humour and behaiour when less constapated.
And usually, when I think about the third date I'd rather stay home, jack it off to some porn and play vidya. No idea how to fix it. Not even gay, since I regularly skip out on meet-ups with my male friends from Uni aswell. I feel like the 4 years NEET-dom have turned me asexual and into a loner or something. Maybe it's because I don't like to waste time on things that only make my life harder, fuck.
How to be motivated by getting poon again, bois?
The fun thing is that I can allways motivate myself to do workouts no matter how tired or fucked I am, since I do it for myself, to see how far I can go. When I was younger I had that same drive for women. What changed?
>>24354212
>For the past 5 years I've really been working hard on it and I onlonsee marginal improvement see
What was your routine?
>>24353881
It's primarily because we're ugly.
Look into why people as ugly as us have GFs. Betabux is the most common reason. Are they even getting sex from these women?
When you're an ugly male, you have no social value in current society. All the social 'skills' you may have will be crushed when people immediately want nothing to do with you.
>>24354239
"I-I'm a good person, why don't g-girls like me?"
>>24354212
"I-I was b-born socially incompetent I'm doomed!"
>>24354197
"The only girl god will allow me to get is a fat one! Fuck you god why have you forsaken me?"
>>24354163
So your argument is
>robots have no individuality and they reject others people individuality
>but normies never do it because they are good and robots are evil that's why they don't get fulfillment teehee ;^)
>>24354239
>than
*then
>>24354250
Read self help books then, you seem to need someone to hold your cock while you pee.
>>24354197
I don't know, in my head it was better to be with her than no one. As I heard a turbonormie say one time, "a gash is a gash". Pussy is pussy. I don't really regret going out with her, I regret going out with her under the pretenses that I was going to be able to commit long term. I wasn't really attracted to her and it created problems rather quickly.
>>24354196
Unless you look like shrek himself or something if you set your sights low enough you will find someone that will take you. Even if you do if you go yet lower. Meet more women. That's all you can do. It's more productive than posting on r9k anyway.
You sure you're not oblivious? I've seen some pretty ugly dudes with girlfriends.
>>24354263
That's the thing, I'm not as far gone as you because I'm not a retard.
I don't believe in 'normies' and 'robots'. I believe in shit people that bring you down, and decent people that don't bring you down.
Both 'groups' you choose to create contain both kinds of people, to be fair, you're definitely in the shit group.
>>24354206
Possibly. I can't tell stories. At all. It seems like everyone has tons of stories to tell, constantly. I've done shit but I couldn't tell any story in any detail.
>>24354177
>You're socially active and actively meet new women?
Nope, go work then go home and play video games then go to bed. I have a 17,000 car and a 22,000 per year job at 24, but I'm Chinese and a manlet.
>>24354305
are you me?
when i talk to people, after we cover the basics (what we do for work/school, our family) I have absolutely nothing to say after that. Nothing
>>24354285
So wait, explain when "a gash is a gash" applies and "don't stick your dick in crazy" applies.
Also, I'm pretty sure I do but i know the number one reason is because I'm a boring shit. THAT is the number one chance killer.
>>24354285
>You sure you're not oblivious? I've seen some pretty ugly dudes with girlfriends
In a particularly bad time I got really desperate and just studied and studied on "signs" that girls are interested. I've since let up on that, but it's still pretty easy to notice. I haven't noticed anything my way once since then really.
>>24353881
>>24353881
It seems like the majority of you guys either stopped caring or have some warped perception of females and how relationship should be.
>>24354308
Well there's your problem. Try to get involved with something where you can meet people without looking like you're there to meet people. Maybe pretend to be an alcoholic and go to AA or something, I don't fucking know. What I do know is you won't get a gf sitting on r9k.
Just keep lowering your standards and trying again and eventually you will win. Believe it or not women have a sex drive too.
>>24354305
There's also a time and place to tell stories that can't really be explained. Obviously you can't just go up to a girl and be like "yeah I once went snowboarding" she'd think, "ok, why are you bragging about this to me." In my experience there are three types of people.
1. The storyteller, likes talking about their own experiences, hard to get a word in cause they like jerking their own cock.
2. The listener. Likes hearing stories about your life, things you plan on doing. Don't have much to say can be perceived as boring.
3. The Hybrid. A back and fourth conversationalist that is the most enjoyable to speak to if you have something to say and genuinely care about what they're saying.
A lot of people end up recycling their stories, most people don't do many cool things.
>>24354111
>depression is a bitch
Not depressed. I'm happy with my life, and I enjoy my hobbies, but I'm just lonely as fuck. How do you not get that?
>>24354206
>Social 'skills' are innate. They cannot be learned.
I mean, to some extent they can be learned. But if you don't start off with a basic amount, you're pretty fucked. I was diagnosed with autism awhile back, and, while I'm not using it as an excuse, I at least know why I'm like this and why it won't improve.
>>24354227
>If you have any sort of intelligence you can easily learn how to be social.
I'm intelligent, but I never learned how to be social. I doubt it's something you can easily pick up late in the game anyway.
>>24354262
>>24354281
Now you're going all out with your shitposting
Just leave will you? You not helping or adding anything to the discussion.
You're like a kid tapping on the glass of an aquarium
>>24354298
You keep on saying not to put people on groups but you keep putting me on the "bad" group, because that's convenient for you.
You keep ignoring individuality of every poster in here and you tell everyone in here that they do the same thing
>>24354370
>have some warped perception of females and how relationship should be.
Explain
>>24354227
Not t. Intel
Fuck
Not true. Otherwise STEM departments would be known for their God tier oratory skills.
>>24354254
I make a point to greet everyone I see with a smile, a wave if I met them before, and I make smalltalk with various people every day. I've been wagekeking and going to CC so I get a good mixture of new person and old person scenarios to practice conversation. After all these years there are only 3 who seem to enjoy talking with me and I think it's more of entertainment for them. What will autismo say today type shit. Even though I add everyone on Facebook and trade numbers I never get invited out and they never want to go out with me when I invite to movies, dinner, or drinks. I have kind of invited myself and tagged along with classmates to lunch before but I'm not really included in the conversation even when I bring up relevant shit. One stacyStook a y too. One Stacy took a group photo of us at Wendy's and put it on Facebook. Everyone in it but me was tagged. I'm not usually one to pick up on subtle cues but I think that means something.
>>24354227
>>24354262
You reply to the same post twice?
>>24354382
"easily" no. It's still not impossible. Nor near impossible. I do understand how joining a social group can be daunting though especially when they are already established. If you work with people you have a decent gateway. Oh, you were diagnosed with autism. Yeah, that could be an issue. A very big issue.
>>24354381
I would definitely fall under listener. I do seem to like just watching and listening to what people get up to. I can't be fucked with doing it myself, it's just interested observing.
Not even remotely appealing to any girl, though. They want to be pulled along in the whirlwind of other peoples adventures.
>>24354382
Let me answer for our trjpfag friend here:
>No you dumb you put people in boxes and that's bad cuz it's bad alright? And all of you are exactly the same but i'm better dan u becauze mommy says so.
>>24354281
That's not my point. "They" is just the easiest catch all for people in general, be it from here, "normalfags," or whatever. I'm not dismissing that there are multiple people in this, I'm pointing out that everyone is pretty shit about giving help on this sort of thing.
>>24354380
I used to be pretty social you know, partied did MDMA with friends, spoke to random girls at parties, but I'm just unattractive
>>24354252
>me
>>24354381
I'm definitly the first one, kek. I can talk hours and hours about things I went through and do but get easily borred with people who don't have things in common with me. If we do have common interests though, I usually are able to talk about those for hours and hours, but it's mostly because I do them.
Am I a narcissist?
We're definitely not the worst of humans out there in sum, but I think the problem is this:
If you come to 4chan, you're probably smarter than the average person. I justify that by stating that it takes someone smarter than the average person to deal with an anonymous forum with no repercussions for your statements, and to allow for shear deviancy and weirdness.
Anyway, if you're smarter than average, you're most likely more self-aware than most people. That self-awareness is what hinders us from gfs and bfs - we realize we're not that good. We realize that there are a lot of people better than us, and that we wouldn't be very good for the person we're dating. Our only real hope is fairy tale romance by virtue of the woman coming up to US and pronouncing her love for us, a verification to know that we are actually wanted.
>>24354334
Almost, m8. I shy away from chatting about work/school because I don't do anything. And my family is as uninteresting as I am.
But I can chat shit about politics, videogames, religion and other bollocks.
Seems like you need to get the basics out of the way first, though.
>>24354390
I've gotten to know you, you're shit.
I've gotten to know other people, they're not shit.
You however are moving the goal post and not grasping what I was saying. YOU are putting people you have never met into these groups, "normie" or "robot xd epic!" You assume all "at least slightly social/functioning people" are bad! and evil! While the retarded shit stains, are good because you can relate!
So you're in your circlejerk of comfortability and never run out of cum.
>>24354419
>anyone can learn social skills, even autists
>except for autists though, lol
>>24354429
Refer to
>>24354427
This is the most original content we have evr seen gookmoot
>>24354455
Holy shit you have zero ability to introspect or you lack self-awareness do you?
>>24354441
I like to think the average robot stands on that fine line of intelligence between smart enough to see what is wrong but too dumb to do anything about it.
Like a lesser journeyman at everything, incapable of anything more.
Probably bullshit, though. Everyone thinks they're smarter than average.
>>24354431
Probably to some extent, it's not inherently a bad thing.
>>24354416
No.
>>24354400
English please.
>>24354429
Then do your own research, ask people who used to be shit at interaction for their best advice.
>>24354441
>tfw dumb as a brick and self aware
>>24354461
when did I say that?
I didn't know he was an autist. Read this post if you want to be difficult, like a fucking toddler.
>>24354227
"Yes" was in response to, "yes it is impossible if autistic" and/or near impossible.
>>24354495
Lol
>>24354441
I agree we're more self aware in general, but I doubt you are. How could you not think you're better than the average person? I think I'm better than 99%+ people I see. They set the bar very low. The only problem is not knowing the correct timing to say 'fuck shit nigger nigger piss fuck party whoo bro yolo dank fuck fuck whoo'. In literally every other way I am better than literally everyone else.
>>24354353
A gash is a gash applies all the time. What I mean by this is no matter if it's a 10/10 perfect qt or a 1/10 deformed landwhale their pussy is going to be roughly the same. Don't stick your dick in crazy applies only when you deem it necessary, getting intimate with someone that might freak out and accuse you of rape or something is shady for obvious reasons.
As far as telling when a girl is interested, it's pretty intuitive. At least it is for me. Flirt with them a little bit and see if they reciprocate. If not immediately drop the idea of ever being with them, this is not the time for oneitis. If they do reciprocate continue ramping up the intensity until their body language tells you to stop.. assuming you're in a situation where it's appropriate to do so. The dating approach has never worked for me, it's always been when I can tell a girl fancies me and I reciprocate affection. If nothing else learn how to flirt.
>>24354501
>Then do your own research
I do, a nigga just likes to vent sometimes.
>>24354525
Mentally ill internet product.
>>24354419
>It's still not impossible. Nor near impossible.
>Oh, you were diagnosed with autism. Yeah, that could be an issue. A very big issue.
Th-thanks. I can't do basic shit like remember peoples' faces or understand body language. How do you expect me to join a social group when I have no concept of basic social interaction? I do a hobby that gets me consistently around the same people, and, while I talk to them during the hobby, they've never want to interact beyond that.
>>24354455
>that anonymous guy sure posts a lot, that one person has a lot of time on his hands. I think I got him figured out though, that one anonymous person
>>24354535
Venting is healthy but it can lead to blaming others which will lead to self ostracization.
>>24354499
tbhfam i'm a physics major; I know that I'm smarter than average
Are you willing to stop obsessing over your 2d waifu?
if yes then you can find a gf
>>24354501
Pou did reply to the same post twice. How can you deny that when the evidence is right before everyone?
>>24354549
But that is the same guy, you fucking idiot.
Or it's someone with severe brain damage replying to me, replying to the person who posted originally.
Perhaps you're the person with severe brain damage!
>>24354501
>Then do your own research, ask people who used to be shit at interaction for their best advice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/socialskills/comments/1hv1ut/former_shy_here_i_recently_did_a_30day_social/
>>24354455
>So you're in your circlejerk of comfortability and never run out of cum
Last time i checked your mother actually liked the fact that we never run out of jizz
>>24354501
What do you mean by "English please."? Try using whole sentences. It's easier to tell you how and why you're wrong when you write like a grown-up.
>>24354525
This is narcissism or distorted perception, probably a combination of both. What I can tell you is you think you're a lot smarter than you really are.
>>24354554
Not in you know what the screen looks like compared to a face.
I get the feeling some of you tripfags like to assume all of us have no mental filter and spill our /r9k/ garbage face to face with the few people we talk to.
>>24354557
Careful with that ego, lad. But good. Keep that interest going. Focus on it and get good at it. Definitely don't drop out for any reason. Need skills to pay the bills.
>>24354560
That's the joke you fucking idiot HOLY SHIT
>>24354546
I'm faceblind myself, I'm sorry to hear your struggles. I'd suggest that you're not meeting compatible people, but for all I know you're missing signs.
>>24354528
Flirting is awkward as hell and I do not have the looks to pull it off, and like I said before I can guarantee I've never had anyone look twice at me.
>>24354575
Epic mom joke and cherry picking!
>>24354576
Englsh pl
>>24354588
I'm not talking about you going to people and saying "YOU ARE THE REASON I'M SO FUCKED UP" but more so in the whole you thinking "man I'd be amazing if all these fuck ups didn't fuck me up!" It's poison.
>>24354574
Try using some more damage control, i'm sure you'll convince people doing damage control
>>24354587
I don't have an exact number of whatever smartness units I think I am. I'm speaking comparatively here. I'm smarter than everyone else as evidenced by objective feedback. Whether I am a million times smarter or just twice as smart as the average person doesn't matter to me. It's hard to tell anyway since most projects are either successful or unsuccessful, and in tests they max out at a perfect score. Iq is useful but it is a metricmetric for potential and doesn't really reflect smarts, which is related to but not equivalent to intelligence.
>>24354641
le smug anime girl face
Kill yourself, I take solace in the fact that you have folders dedicated to 2d.
>>24354653
You started out by saying 99% of people you see, now you're shifting it to "the average person".
Get help.
>>24354639
>man I'd be amazing if all these fuck ups didn't fuck me up
Nah, senpai. Some people are made to be fuck ups. The amazing people have to have some kind of baseline to go from.
>>24354656
>he gets triggered by chinese drawings
>>24354685
You can always find fulfillment in your life, you don't have to be the next Kanye.
>>24354614
Well you better start getting good now. I don't have good looks either, man. I'm like a 3 or a 4 depending on who you ask. I don't have social skills. I don't have money. I'm a NEET. I live with my grandma. Point I'm trying to make is that you are probably just as eligible a bachelor as I am. The one thing I can do is flirt. I can't even explain how to do it.. it's intuitive. I don't want to be not helpful but you might be better off googling it. If you can get them to flirt back you stand a pretty good chance of bringing it to the next level, whatever the fuck that is. I almost never get past the flirting part. I've told you everything I know and that obviously isn't much.
good luck man
>>24354656
>I b-better call him a we-weaboo
You should learn something from your mom, at least she's able to take it like a champ
>>24354692
Good picture, saving, it's all mine.
>>24354678
Sorry, I guess I overestimated your understanding of basic mathematical relationships. If 69 is higher than 2, it can also be higher than 2^2, 2+2, 22, etc.. Moving goalposts refers to an actual concept. I'm assuming you're using it correctly. Please tell me if you don't know what that means either.
>>24354715
My butthole is too tight cuz, sorry to disappoint your homoeroticism.
>>24354701
>You can always find fulfillment in your life
>>24354400
>I make a point to greet everyone I see with a smile, a wave if I met them before, and I make smalltalk with various people every day. I've been wagekeking and going to CC so I get a good mixture of new person and old person scenarios to practice conversation. After all these years there are only 3 who seem to enjoy talking with me and I think it's more of entertainment for them. What will autismo say today type shit. Even though I add everyone on Facebook and trade numbers I never get invited out and they never want to go out with me when I invite to movies, dinner, or drinks. I have kind of invited myself and tagged along with classmates to lunch before but I'm not really included in the conversation even when I bring up relevant shit. One stacyStook a y too. One Stacy took a group photo of us at Wendy's and put it on Facebook. Everyone in it but me was tagged. I'm not usually one to pick up on subtle cues but I think that means something.
Have you heard this book call the Law of Power? There's a law that suggest that you make your self scarce and avoid commitment in the group. This is used to garner respect and force the people to pursue you. Your situation reminds me of a friend who always try to tag along, but in the end everyone finds him annoying because hes always making himself available to hang out and try to get along with everyone.
In my experience, being an introvert (most likely on the extreme side) I have a tendency to shut people down and reject invites to hangouts. The funny thing is the more I remain aloof the more people try to drag me into the group. It gotten to the point where I was tagged on fb, but I deleted those photos on my profile. I think here I am making myself scarcer and exploiting the simple psychological truth that people desire things that they can't have. That's how I would explain my situation.
>>24354653
Yeah this is narcissism
You're not actually smarter, you just tell yourself you are. Not only tell yourself, you're convinced you are. So convinced it has become a permanent part of your personality.
I usually don't play nice with tripfaggots but you really do need to get help if you think you're this superior.
>>24354441
Great point.
Although, I don't know if that's intelligence, or more that we're seeking answers because we're lonely and have time for this stuff.
But, from my own family experience. Most are hideously ugly like me, yet they manage relationships. Which are all severed in short time, recklessly have kids who have no future, most pay alimony, child support, etc... yet keep getting up and screwing themselves more.
It's easy for me to feel like it's a lack of intelligence and self-awareness, but I'm not exactly happy myself.
>>24353881
>disabled people
>people with social anxiety
you do realize neither of those things affect relationships that much, right? you nigger.
the only thing that matters is looks and personality.
you just are deluded and in reality possess both of shit caliber.
I honestly believe it's almost completely circumstantial.
I'm actually suggesting that people who are 20s and 30s aged virgins with no dating experience are just very unlucky.
>>24354741
That's fine, then you won't.
:)
>>24354733
You think you're a lot smarter than you actually are, and that will be your downfall, if you're curious why you're a fuckup, start with that.
>>24353881
No job = no money = no gf.
>>24354075
i'll be ur pale skinny asian gf if you shut the fuck up, my good man.
just keep the b8 to yourself.
>>24354762
Thank you, i'm glad we established that.
Its a pussy sellers market. Every girl can install tinder and have 1000s of thirsty betas begging for the chance to spend money on her. The only way to win is to get on a plane and get out of the first world.
>>24354755
>disabled people
>you do realize neither of those things affect relationships that much, right?
wew lad I guess retards have no issue with relationships then?
>>24354782
I have a job and money, but no gf. Or even a normal friend.
>>24354706
Damn. Daunting, but I guess I can't really do much about that.
>>24354828
I mean /r9k/ seems to have lots of issues with relationships.
>>24354850
I was where you are before I had quit my job.
I had a job and a car and I was in school, and still nobody was attracted to me and I never made any friends or got dates. I'm mildly handsome too.
>>24354828
There are plenty of retarded people in relationships senpai. Usually with other retards but I digress. I wouldn't say it causes no issues but it isn't a 100% dealbreaker.
How about that. Retards can do something none of us can do. That's a pleasant thought.
>>24354894
I think that just highlights how fucked a lot of us are.
I think the problem is the self awareness. We think about it too much rather than acknowledge it and move on.
realistic 8/10 here with a winning personality, i've had my pick of women throughout life yet never had a gf. I want one but I've just never accepted one and i don't know why. Some of us are just meant to be alone
>>24354932
Overthinking to the point of paralysis, yeah. I don't want to get all fedora in here but you'd be surprised how far you can get just off of instinct. Being attracted to someone is instinctual and recognizing when someone is attracted to you isn't really a conscious thought process for me.. it's natural. Try to stop thinking so much and just let yourself go for a little while, if you overthink and overanalyze every action you're going to freeze up and spaghetti.
Just chill the fuck out. I got one more turbonormie tip for you guys. I used to be friends with a chad and he told me his secret. It's alcohol. Things get substantially easier when you're both drinking. Even though he was a turbonormie chad he was an alright guy. He called it his potion. It works. Just be careful, consent starts getting shady when the female is drunk even if the male is drunk too. They could potentially pull the victim card.
>>24354122
this tbqh onii-senpai
>>24354818
I absolutely hate tinder. I hate what it stands for. I hate what it means. I hate its popularity. I hate the inevitable consequences of it.
It's easy, super-fast online dating that promotes affairs and promiscuity. And, what's worse, is that it's trendy. Trendy and socailly acceptable.
>>24355220
it doesn't work if you are not black or white
>>24354252
Do you fuck them?
>>24353965
I'm a good empathetic person
>>24353881
i dont know where to meet grils
simple as that tbqh. i havent met a gril in almost a yearshe asked me on a date
>>24354441
>4chan
>smarter than the average person
>>24354077
>just fix your life, bro
This is the just world fallacy in action. They think the fact that you are a khv is a result of some sort of lack of character while the reality is probably blind dumb luck.
>Have a decent job
>Have own car
>Go to parties
>Do drugs with friends
>Talk to girls all the time
>Still a virgin
I'm a failed normie, it's worse than being a robot. girls just don't find me attractive because I'm short and thin
>>24355450
No nigga they think you're a "bad" person, a "nice guy" or a "creep"
>>24355483
Then bulk up
>>24355494
>Then bulk up
Yeah spend 3 years weight lifting just to get laid by a 4 or 5/10 girl that hasn't done shit. 3 fucking years of hard work and dieting just to shag an average slut off Tinder.
No fucking thank you
>>24353881
To me a girlfriend is a girl who is reasonably attractive and stable, who I can share a bit of my life with as she shares hers, and we exist in some mutual state of happiness and sexy times.
But finding and keeping a reasonably attractive woman is hard when you're not all that attractive yourself, which is something I'm working on now.
>>24355284
Yeah, but the other ethnicities get arranged marriages.
>>24353888
Sounds plausible
>>24353881
The part where your personality and life goals revolves around nothing but "I want a gf". Even on a primal level, any woman can instantly deduce from that that you would be a completely empty husk of a human being were she to grant you your wish.
Live for something else.
My problem is that I haven't actually tried to approach a woman in at least the past 6 months. Sometimes I half-halfheartedly try online dating but get discouraged really quickly.
>>24355884
>this meme again
I don't really think women care that much if you make her a focal point in her life, it depends on the individual girl.
They all want the same basic shit, they want to "feel" a certain way. You can't fault them for wanting to feel in love in order to, well, be in love.
Yeah, part of it is not being too needy or desperate but on the other hand I find it's complex because each girl responds to the same thing a little differently. Whether or not a girl responds to your personality and advances and physical appearance in a manner that's positive enough to warrant sexual escalation depends on a variety of factors that aren't immediately seen or understood.
But we're starting to get some clues about it. Like, obviously girls like muscles, or tall men, or "confidence" (but only when the confident guy is already attractive). Then there's this nebulous concept of "value" , which apparently means taking interest in others and making others laugh and smile, but I think what should always be stressed is attractiveness. How you groom, how you talk, how you walk, etc., basic shit you do to fair well in a job interview, and a date. Doesn't need to be perfect but if you suck at being attractive then god help you.
>>24356003
Does it matter though? I don't think women really want to be approached. If they don't send signals to be approached I usually don't bother. I kind of wait for signals or something on their end, in a way it's like waiting for them to make the first move, only it's done covertly rather than overtly.
They already have so much choice and are so picky that I'm not even interested in trying to market myself to them, they can figure out what they want since they are so entitled to their perfect guy. If I'm not the guy she thinks is perfect for her I won't waste my time.
>there are people uglier than us with girlfriends
No, there are not. I'm at best a 3/10, just imagining having sex with myself makes me sick, I'm just that fucking ugly. I know a fat fuck who's just as ugly as me and he has a fat girlfriend just as ugly as we are that even I wouldn't have sex with. That's how it is, genetics and luck. If you really think it's your fault that you're a robot you're delusional unless you're a 6/10+ and you willingly choose to become a worthless NEET instead of trying anything else. Seriously, if your face is under 6 you might as well not even bother, lifting doesn't do shit, I'm also 5'9 so fuck my genetics in particular. It's over. If you are under 5'11 and your face isn't at least a 6 just end it, it doesn't matter how much you study/work you will never have a decent girlfriend and if you're an autist like most of us are you also have good a chance of being friendless. There are no people uglier than us that have actual girlfriends, if such a person exists for you then maybe you're just being retarded and not really doing anything to improve your condition cause if a person uglier than you has a gf it means you also stand a chance.
>>24356013
Women want some sort of value in their partner, just like men do. However, men think having a vagina means having enough value. Women aren't sex crazed in general, though, so having a penis is not enough value.
>>24356077
>shut the up
>>24356386
Please kill yourself with a too-short nylon rope.
>>24355884
>Live for something else.
like what faggot? there's literally nothing to live for
>>24354077
Just curious, have you tried any social activities where you would meet people, like a meetup or sports league? I think something like this could help me make friends but I'm kinda scared to try.
>>24356572
But that sounds needlessly painful.
>>24356613
Then kill yourself.
>>24356618
Great, can't wait to inflict myself on others and ruin their experience. Good idea.
>>24356672
>Then kill yourself.
why? i might get a gf one day
>>24356672
I need you to show me how to properly kill myself, please make a demonstration.
>>24356697
Noone has a reason no reason to consider you.
>>24356713
please explain what exactly there is to live for if no gf
>>24356618
>have you tried any social activities where you would meet people, like a meetup or sports league
Yes. I shoot USPSA at least 12 times a month. I've even competed in a team 3 gun match, but I don't think I'm friends with any of them. They've never asked for contact information, and we've never interacted outside of shooting.
>>24353881
Ridiculously high standards. For all the ranting you do about women expecting perfect men, most of the gfless robots here have even higher expectations.
>>24353881
you dont believe in yourself
you dont practice.
normies get gfs because they believe in themselves, try and fail 99 times and the 100th time they get the QT
>>24354212
100% not true. Almost anything can be learned if you have the right guidance and work hard.
Social skills and more importantly being charismatic are a lot harder to learn and have a larger component of natural skill than, say, playing a sport or learning an instrument, but it's definitely still possible.
>>24356752
>A girl who is loyal, reasonably smart/mature and at least a 6/10 in looks is unrealistic
K f.a.m
>>24356797
>Almost anything can be learned if you have the right guidance and work hard
>you just have to work hard and everything will work out
There are a significant amount of people here who can never learn social skills, no matter how hard they try.
>Video games and Porn
Thats my excuse.
T b h familia
>>24354400
>I make a point to greet everyone I see with a smile, a wave if I met them before, and I make smalltalk with various people every day. I've been wagekeking and going to CC so I get a good mixture of new person and old person scenarios to practice conversation. After all these years there are only 3 who seem to enjoy talking with me and I think it's more of entertainment for them. What will autismo say today type shit. Even though I add everyone on Facebook and trade numbers I never get invited out and they never want to go out with me when I invite to movies, dinner, or drinks. I have kind of invited myself and tagged along with classmates to lunch before but I'm not really included in the conversation even when I bring up relevant shit. One stacyStook a y too. One Stacy took a group photo of us at Wendy's and put it on Facebook. Everyone in it but me was tagged. I'm not usually one to pick up on subtle cues but I think that means something.
Keep trying man. If you find someone you trust you should ask them directly whether you're doing anything strange which is turning people away, hopefully they tell the truth.
Good luck
>>24356386
It's not just about women being pickier and wanting things other than sex, which I don't even think it's true that all men only want to get their dick wet.
We are no different from women in that we prioritize sexual attraction initially, I don't think either gender should be faulted for this.
My point is that what women like can be so specific, that combination of sexual attraction + compatibility is vastly different from one girl to the next. I've encountered enough women who became attracted to me based on my initial looks, the most extreme example is a girl telling her friend straight up that she wanted to fuck me. However, exactly zero women have made me feel like I'm somebody she finds compelling and worth spending her life with, and exactly zero women have shown interest in anything with me long term...which is what really bothers me. Being rejected sexually is one thing, being rejected because she doesn't think you're compatible (she thinks you're kinda boring) is worse. Idk.
>>24356855
In which case you should see a psychologist and work through your social anxiety with them. Unless you have a diagnosed condition, I can't see why you couldn't develop enough social skills to get by.
why would i want a gf when the average girl has over 30 sexual partners by 25. think about that for a second and with each one of them partner probably 20 acts of sex on average. that is 600 acts of sex.
if you are okay with this you're a kekold by default so you should just know that. most guys are okay with girls being on birth control but this is a huge red flag because she is only on birth control to have unprotected sex with numerous men. there is no other logical reason that someone would poison there system with such medication. now fun fact 10% of females have had three abortions by the age of 25 which is a small outlier but then you realize the other 90% are actually on a medical invasive contraceptive - birth gate in-utero mechanism, birth control medication, etc.
females are exceptionally hedonistic, intellectually blunted, etc. their behaviors really speak for themselves. even feminists that think they're 'empowered' really aren't. they just like every other female have engaged in large amounts of consensual sex and while yes they're not asking for rape they ask for consensual sex at least 200 times if they're at least 25 with 30 different men. i'm not a statistician but i can speak numbers, stats when it comes to defending myself against an evasive non-altruistic third party encroachment which is the females who have engaged in a debate with this me.
>>24356980
I don't have social anxiety. I'm successful outside of social circles. I have multiple meetings every week with people I work with, and I don't have any anxiety with those.
>Unless you have a diagnosed condition, I can't see why you couldn't develop enough social skills to get by
I have autism, among other associated issues.
I work all weekend and go to school all week, and as a result don't have a social life. I'm normal in all other respects but I don't know how to meet similar people with my schedule
that paired with the fact that I'm terrified of rejection and have never even tried flirting with a girl in my life, let alone cold approach
not a virgin though
>>24357013
I am a 33 yo old fag. I used to be the same as you guys, sitting home, cranking it constantly to newsgroup porn and chatting with qt3.14s who were complete unavailable. Like anything else in life, you need to start somewhere, and if banging some trailer trash whore with 30 sexual partners before you is going to build your confidence, then so be it.
I've had a few long term relationships and the only thing I've learned from them is once you're mildly successful, women just want to control your life and guilt you into whatever suits them at the time so they can show off to their whore friends who are equally as useless.
The women I've met today can barely boil an egg, let alone do anything particularly useful, so might as well just treat them as children/playthings while you focus on developing yourself and your life, and this will not happen overnight, especially when you're sitting at home cranking it to inet porn and playing vidya.
Get out of the house, go for a walk, talk to people, volunteer, do something social, make a network. The biggest, most important thing in life isn't money/status/power, but a solid network of friends, good, bad or indifferent, and the ability to deal with people who are manipulative, assholes, and what not.
Getting fucked over in life in inevitable and it will hurt for a while, but you have to do it to know how to handle it and become a stronger person. Having a girlfriend isn't the be all , end all of success. In the end, there are guys out there who are tired of fucking supermodels, and you're going to have a hell of a lot more fun getting hammered with your buddies and going out and causing trouble than listening to little miss perfect and having her run your life for you.
>>24357675
>you're going to have a hell of a lot more fun getting hammered with your buddies and going out and causing trouble than listening to little miss perfect and having her run your life for you.
You've hit the nail on the fuckin head there man, damn.
>>24356802
it is unrealistic, when you're no longer 12 you'll understand
>>24354174
100% same senpai. Honestly, I'm considering dropping out of school and quitting my part time job to be a NEET because the only reason I would need either is to support a family and that's never happening.
I will never get a gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diBvnO5M-I8
>>24354889
Do you miss the job?
>>24356864
This is what happened with me. A girl straight up kissed me. We spoke on the phone for 2 months and went on a date. We split up because she thought I was boring and incompatible.
Honestly getting a gf made me feel even worse.
I'm an extremely frustrated person.
When I met her I was 18 and she was 16, I lost my virginity to her when I was 19 and she was 17, but it bugged me for a long time that I'm dating a person which was sexually active since high school, simply because I wasn't, simply because the person I loved, or I thought I loved was one of those people that made me so frustrated when I was in high school.
And this is just the beginning of it.
In the end I ended up breaking up with her because of it, I feel much better now having casual sex with women I don't know or care about. If you've wathced how I met your mother i'm basically barney, trying to fix my fucked up personality and high school sexual ineficiency with lot of meaningless sex, and hell, i think it's actually working.
>>24360292
>inb4 v&
In civilised world we don't get jailed for having sex with someone 13 months younger who acutally looks older than you
>>24357675
>having male friends
c-u-c-k
>>24354111
>improve yourself!
>"I have"
>W-well then live with it!
Literally empty platitudes. Go die die fire.
