I am not saying it is not sad what happened in Paris, but guess what people, if you want to sympathize with people as a human, you have to do it always, and with everyone, with no preference. The other day there were 2 attacks in Lebanon, and they have been barely mentioned, and now everyone lose it for Paris...
Not to mention Iraq, Syria, Palestine, many African countries, India, Pakistan.... And many many others. A human is a human despite the location.
Enough with your selective humanity and sympathy.
Of all the disasters that happened the other day we lost nearly 115,000 people. France, Japan, Baghdad, Beirut, Bexico. Yet on the day, and the few following, there was next to no mention of any other disaster than the Paris attacks. It only killed 120 people and hospitalised 300. The world HAS given into fear; fear sells. Preying on our most basic instinct in the name of profit.
Do not fear terrorism, they have no power over you. Fear the media and government won't soon change what is a disgusting system that prey on the weak in the name of profit, leaving people on the streets. We, as human beings, are born with morals that need to be acknowledged. As economies grow to a peak never before presidented in history we are seeing a rising percentage of corruption, crime, homelessness and sadness.
We care more about 120 westerners than we do 115000 people from developing nations. Insulting to humanity really.
We're sad about terrorism happening where it's not a daily event.
>>24306180
>Palestine
where's that?
>>24306189
This. We've turned a blind eye to the Middle East because happenings like that are "normal" there. Which is immensely fucked up when you look at it with that perspective, but what do we care? As long as our lives can continue as normal no one gives shit. It's only when they come knocking on our door that we begin to care.
>Equating sand monkies with europeans
m8
>>24306230
yeah europeans have more blood on their hands.
>>24306180
What would you have the masses do?
>>24306180
>if you want to sympathize with people as a human, you have to do it always, and with everyone, with no preference.
That's not how it fucking works, you actual autist.
Guess what, people have sympathized and marched with the people in Gaza before this, perhaps instead of just drawing stupid, cyinicalcartoons you do something
>you should care equally about someone getting shot in a criminal part of town as you would about someone getting shot on your doorstep in your cozy suburb
how about no
>>24306180
nobody cares about the sandies, stop pretending you do.
you just wanna feel special that you're acknowledging all the other people who died somewhere else.
can nobody grieve for anything now?
if your family gets murdered should I tell you to stop your selective humanity and weep for some goatfucker in bumfuckistan?
you're the worst type of cunt.
>>24306180
lol isn't Palestine getting way too much media attention?
I remember seeing like 3-2 broadcasts per day about a Palestinian shot by Israeli army. Yet they don't mention the fact that he tried to stab bystanders.
The media is fucked
>>24306180
1/ you can't say this to people in the West or they'll get mad at you
2/ it's easier to empathise with people closer to home
3/ every time something does happen close to me I take an equal amount of time to consider what maybe caused this attack and what other tradgidies may have happened across the globe today and how that it is a small slice of the bigger problem.
Did I pass your test op?
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>>24306305
Mediated rality we live in.
We're controlled but don't know it.
Our thought's feelings..
Felt for us.
>>24306180
Why would I care what happens to them? They failed to contain the problem in their own countries which is why Europe is now getting overrun with sandniggers...
Sand niggers aren't people OP
I don't quite understand the picture. Of course people in the west are more concerned with terrorist attacks in the west.
>>24306416
The people aren't at fault.
They aren't having any fun.
Politicians treat people like puppets. They don't care..
It's sad.
>>24306513
If they wanted a nice country they could make one, not leave and go to one, and make it a shit country.
>>24306529
Leaving your home is so easy isn't it?
Fuck off.
It's your home.
>>24306549
Seems pretty easy to all the "refugees" going to Germany.
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>>24306529
I think we're talking about two separate groups..
I hope so.
>Westerners care more about things that happen in the West than we do about things that happen in niggersville
Wow I'm shocked by that revelation, I'll be sure to go feel bad about caring more for productive white Europeans than goat-fucker dune coons
>>24306513
Maybe if the people stopped being populist, tribalistic retards this wouldn't happen? I'm not saying the west is a bastion of democractic meritocracy, but the level of political discourse over there for the average person is even worse than ours.
>>24306563
Fuck em
We tried to help.
You can't help what can't be helped..
uff..
Helping just hurt more.
Who the fuck cares about third world countries
>>24306180
>A human is a human despite the location.
no, they aren't. quit spouting this. i feel no sympathy towards those who wish to override my individual freedom, which covers the majority of people in iraq, syria, palestine, african countries, pakistan, and, yes, israel. in western countries, (and, russia, just so the russian shills leave me alone for once) we don't see the majority of individuals wanting to instate religious law defining how we live our lives. whether or not you want to admit it, OP, there are humans that are a detriment to our species. you are harmful to humanity, as a species, if you want to rule us using ancient laws that no one takes serious anymore. it's incredibly telling that western, christian nations (again, i'll include russia and their eastern orthodox nature to avoid hate from russian shills) wanting us to be ruled by mosaic law.
the simple fact is that the majority of muslims want us to live by shariah law. this can be verified by pew research. whether or not they are committing horrific acts is irrelevant, because those committing the acts gain their support, especially financially, from those who hold similar ideologies. if you want to persecute me for drawing mohammad, you are a detriment to society, and i really can't feel bad about what happens to you.
>>24306579
spoiler alert: germany sided with the middle east in both world wars. sorry, m8.
But France is like a brother country to me, whereas the sandnigger countries aren't. I feel closer to them, that's why I empathize more with France.
>>24306513
How come that only in underdeveloped shit country shit is going down?
Is it really a coincidence that all the bad and cruel people are in the same region? These people would hurt their family over pride, kill people with different religion and generally be super bigoted towards anyone. You can't excuse their monkey culture by war, they only know rape, punch, hit, kill, steal, savage. It takes time to reform them to western standards and when we take thousands of them, its clear that some will be left behind. If you are the only italian family in a town in the USA, you will learn english, but if you live in little italy, you most likely won't and keep your values of pride and familia and mafia alive. Good luck with reforming shit skins.
>>24306621
>muh freedom
goatfucker in bumfuck nowhere doesnt care about you either
stop feeling so self important you fat limp wristed neckbeard
>>24306180
I know! its 2015 people! why should we care about a white country getting attracked during peacetime?
>>24306809
Why don't libkuks apply that "It's 2015!!!" shit to their precious Muslims? Is it because only white people are expected to be civilized?
>It's 2015 and you STILL stone homos to death?
>It's 2015 and you commit honor killings?
>It's 2015 and you still behave like it's 1015?
>>24306778
i really don't care. i don't use religion as an excuse to justify the persecution of innocent people. the majority of people in those countries do. my sympathy level is off the charts, as in, it doesn't exist.
by your implications in this post, you believe you can take the moral high-ground over people like me, yes? tell me, anon, why do you want to take the moral high-ground for people who want to strip you of your freedoms? why are you fine with civilized people dying? how would you react if you lived in a world where the majority of people were muslims and shariah law was not just tolerated, but treated as absolute law? is this a world you favor?
>Enough with your selective humanity and sympathy.
This is what we need more of, desu. We shouldn't be made to feel for beings just because we typically share the same number of chromosomes.
>>24306861
does this really need explaining? muslims, in most of the countries in question, are socialist. it's beneficial to their general cause if more of them exist, which is likely why they are also more open to immigration from these shitholes in the first place, because they are able to gain power. strength in numbers.
>>24306927
I understand why the libkuks with political power support the sand nigger invasion, but I don't understand how leftist commoners have a mental block that blinds them to how Muslims treat gays, women and religious minorities
>>24306180
>Not to mention Iraq, Syria, Palestine, many African countries, India, Pakistan.... And many many others. A human is a human despite the location.
i agree with ya mang, its just that its weird that this would happen in paris of all places. thats why its such a big event. paris i suppossed to be a romantic getaway, for normies.
>>24306180
sorry but thats bullshit
what's your breakdown on the 115000 people killed?
~130 in paris, very few in japan (no confirmed deaths yet iirc), < 100 in lebanon from two bombings, can't find the baghdad figure rn but I'm certain it was less than 50, and there's no confirmed dead in mexico
even if each of these had 100 die (this did not happen) you wouldn't even break a thousand
what the fuck are ye chatting senpai
Because Paris is the last place you'd expect to get attacked.
What did they do to anybody in recent years--fuck i don't know---a long time? I have no clue what their history is or the blood on their hands, but this is the first time I've heard anything involving them besides satire.
For hundreds of innocent people to be harmed in this place is sickening. They let these sand niggers in and got fucked for it.
Why do we have to accept a group of people who shit on peace handed to them. You literally just have to stop fucking your own kind up/shitting on the sidewalk and you could work on your shitholes instead of infesting other's hard work.
this is a very complex issue
to be quite honest with you
WE DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR THE DARKNESS THEY LIVE IN
>>24306180
I'm French, and I only care about people who I feel close to. I feel close to my Euro Brothers, my Burger brothers and Asian brothers because they don't cause rampage whereever they go.
Sorry If I don't care fucking niggers, and sandniggers that are ruining my country on a daily baisis, sorry If I don't care about fucking immigrants that invade my country to ruin it.
So yeah call me master edge but those shitholes can burn, they 100% deserve it they can behave like human beings so they will die like animals.
>>24306180
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516
brits get in here
>starting a serious thread on r9k expecting people not to shitpost
I appreciate your braveness anyway, OP
It's because paris is mainstream
>>24306264
It should be you fucking hypocrite
>>24306180
You pieces of shit parading your false sympathy disgust me in every sense of the word. Don't you fucking lie, you didn't know or give a fuck about any other attacks, but hey, now that there's a tragedy in a first world nation (where these types of things are not common and are, conversely, an absolute anomaly when compared to those other strife-ridden countries you mentioned) and a lot of people are paying attention, suddenly all you fucking egotistic asswipes are coming out of the woodworks pretending like you actually knew and gave a fuck about what was going on in other places of the world so that you can pretend to be some worldly, altruistic humanitarian of higher moral character. That's what it's all about, right? Gotta make sure you one-up everybody in a time of mourning and despair by pretending you give slightly more of a fuck than they do, right? Expose everybody's "hypocrisy" when you're really the biggest hypocrite yourself?
And, yeah, wow, people feel more strongly about a culture/peoples they directly/more closely identify and relate with. What a fucking surprise! That doesn't make them some heartless, narrow-minded, uncompassionate prick. Go fuck yourself.
>>24306290
Is this what our civilization turned into?
Dude you're the perfect example of why I'd wipe out everyone from this damn planet
>but guess what, if you want to sympathize with people, you have to do it all the time, with no preference
You actually don't. You're retarded. I'm glad you think you're smart, though.
>>24307112
Holy shit a literal sperg.
>>24306621
Are you that retarded? ISIS wouldn't even exist without financial help from amerikek and CIA
Litterally no sandnigger could financially help it's cause like CIA did
>>24306180
Why are political cartoons so fucking dumb?
>>24307138
He has a point though.
I'd love to stop the violence because it's really fucked up what the civilians go through. Paris was a shocker because if it's under attack, that means literally anyone could be wiped out just for fun by these people. Over something petty as beliefs at that.
I don't want to be harmed and there's no way of knowing if the local gas station worker is peaceful or has false intent.
wow, you're an idiot.
for westeners, when this shit happens in another western country, it's a revelation that it can actually happen to them too, that it is not actually just happening on TV in third world countries, but it could happen to your neighbor country or even your own, your friends and family can actually be killed in a terrorist attack because it can happen at any time where you live, and that's why it's causing mass hysteria.
whether you want to admit it or not, this shit happens all the time in countries like you mentioned, people are used to it, it's not new, it's not happening right where you are, it's somewhere else and you're safe, no one you love is in danger, so you naturally care less, and that is simply human nature, your instinct is to care for people who you have a direct connection with
i can agree with you that leftist "we're all equal"-types are fucking hypocrites, because they won't be willing to admit that they care more about france than lebanon and palestine, but the people who can rightfully admit it, are not.
oh, and sandniggers aren't human so who cares tbhfamdesu
>>24306180
>A human is a human despite the location.
Here's your error.
>>24307138
lol good thing you are about as significant as an amoeba and can't wipe your own shitty ass, muslim cum guzzler
Western world cares mord about the western world.
The desert probably cares more about the desert.
Also there are attacks in the desert all the time, it's not as shocking.
The west is all I care about. It actually bribngs me quite a lot of joy to know a sandnigger or niggernigger is killed. I want all third and second wolrders to kill each other. Good riddance. The earth belongs to white people and the continued existence of nonwhites is an affront to actual human beings(white people)
I care more about 1 westerner than I do every non westerner to have ever existed and will exist.
>>24306180
When are you gonna give this up?
Nobody cares about Muslim countries, they are universally shit.
>>24306180
Shitskin killing shitskins isn't newsworthy.
>>24307394
>>24307420
Yup.
Same reason libshits ignore when blacks gun down blacks until they want to grab our guns.
>>24306180
>White civilians getting killed in their homeland is the same as terrorists killing other terrorists.
eh people get all up in arms about abused puppies and post sanctimonious shit about it on social media and then go to a restaurant and eat the flesh of cows and chickens who were tortured to death. white people consider white life to be puppy life and dark-skinned life to be livestock.
>>24307138
you are a raging faggot and it makes me sad that you have such hypocrisy in your post
>>24306529
>If they wanted a nice country they could make one
Ignorance: the post
>if you want to sympathize with people as a human, you have to do it always, and with everyone, with no preference.
why?
Anyone dumb enough to believe in a goat raping god that promotes beheadings and child molestation deserves to be killed on the daily, who cares.
THEY'RE NOT THE SAME AS US, THEY DON'T SHARE OUR BASIC VALUES AND THEIR RELIGION IS INHERENTLY VIOLENT /scarytruths
Feeling closer to those of your own kind is perfectly natural. It's healthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
There has never been a period in human history where there was no strife or violence occurring in some place
There is no "standard" for human compassion
>people more untreated in abnormal occurrences, news at 11.
>>24306180
I don't fear terrorism but there is a clear difference between it happening where it doesnt normally occur and it happening where war is constant.
>>24307616
because otherwise your sympathy is nothing but driven by selfishness and thus not true sympathy
the current situation is, because it's a western country, a LOT of people are talking about it and concerned with it
and when those people talk to you, they expect you to feel the same and act the same, if you deviate from their expectations you will be shunned one way or another
and thus, if you abide by their rule to only sympathise with france because it's "western", you're only trying to avoid being shunned by normies yourself, your intention is not to have sympathy with the victims without any hidden selfish agenda but only to avoid the sanctions and criticism of your peers
there might be some racist agenda mixed within this, but I'm not too sure about that
I literally feel no sadness or remorse for this whole pairs thing.
Yeah it sucks that people died, but I don't know any of these people personally and it hasn't affected me in any way shape or form.
I'm not even a sociopath or anything I'm just..I don't know these people. I'm not gonna change my fb profile pic or any of that other shit the normies do to feel like they care.
Normies only care about the appearance of caring.
>>24307912
this
there are only 2 true emotions you can have towards these news, anything else has a hidden, selfish agenda
>don't care at all because I don't know these people
>truly feel sympathy for the victims but no more than any other victim of terrorism anywhere else in the world
lol they all got shot
>>24307864
>"it's not sympathy unless you support someone who statistically wants to stop you doing what you want and replace it with goat fucking and prehistoric laws"
How kek can you get?
That's because Paris has higher cultural, intellectual, and economic output.
Paris is old as balls, and represents the first seed of "france" begin to sprout and defend its silly ass.
Beirut has always been under attack.
Beirut will always be under attack.
You have two friends, one has fucking HIV and the other's fine.
They both show up one day with faces covered in sores.
That's what your HIV friend always looks like, you're going to ask your normal friend what the problem is.
>>24307122
What if I've cared about and even traveled to those "strife ridden countries" does that mean I can claim the moral high ground then
>>24306180
>getting sad because sandniggers are blowing themselves up
well yeah it's saddening but they're doing it to themselves so
>>24306180
Lol, lrn2history. The civilizations of the middle East have been killing each other since the literally dawn of civilization.
In a thousand years, this period in the middle east will look no different than the thousand years prior.
>>24306180
>every time someone dies the world needs to stop
>go in
>"OMG AMERICA STOP MURDERING PEOPLE YOU MONSTERS!!!"
>leave
>"WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT STOPPING VIOLENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST"
Let them burn.
>>24308170
All civilizations did this. Are you forgetting that not even 100 years ago Europe did the same thing? You talk about history but it is clear you only focus on the last decade because that is all you know.
>>24308293
Nice way to put words in my mouth, I never stated shit about Europe
>>24308284
Nobody wanted you in there at the beginning. But now that you have ruined every country in the middle east with "freedom" fighters you funded and armed it is your responsibility to fix it.
>>24308325
>mujahideen have existed since the 7th century
>"It's ur fault"
top kek
>>24306180
Basic psychology makes us care more about people who are closer to us geographically, culturally and politically than those who are far away. Go back to school.
>>24308321
Yeah you only implied it. If you didn't, your whole post is meaningless.
>>24308339
a lot of these faggots got all their opinions from fucking Adult Swim shows, it makes sense that they're liberal degenerate tards who couldn't guess at what the Ottoman empire was.
ITT: Tragedy Hipsters
>>24306241
white people are worth more than shitty niggers and sandnigs
deal with it nigger
>>24308339
Mujahideen were never a problem in those countries before you created the Taliban and AQ. They were also never a problem in Syria before you started arming groups that later evolved into ISIS. Your wars and involvement has completely ruined the region.
>>24306180
Who gives a shit about shitskins bombing shitskins
>>24308396
>the Ottoman empire is the same as modern terrorists
Nice knowledge of history you have there.
>>24308376
You should probably consider some type of education
>>24308428
if all we ever do is fuck things up then why do you want us to "help"
You've seen what happens when we help them. They go apeshit and kill eachother and then regional genocide #20392732 happens.
But no, according to you it doesn't matter that the middle east should be able to manage itself because "a bloo bloo bloo some fucking kid washed up on a shore and died"
>>24306219
This. There's no such place.
Also I hope Sweden is next.
>>24308468
Because you are the ones who are supposed to clean it up. All it really requires is to do what the Russians are doing and everything will eventually fix itself.
>You've seen what happens when we help them.
No I actually haven't heard of any genocides that weren't perpetrated by people you armed.
>he saves pictures of dead kids so he can pretend he is a real tough guy
I didn't say shit about refugees btw.
>>24306180
>you have to do it always, and with everyone, with no preference
Or else what? Misanthropic bleeding hearts will feel even more bad?
Fuck them.
>>24308545
>Because you are the ones who are supposed to clean it up
how about no, faggot. Just because warhawks like John Mccain and Obama wanted to arm ISIS doesn't mean the public did and this next election is going to prove that.
>>24306180
Whoever made that image has a slight disregard of human life.
>>24308600
Your people voted for Obama*2 so they obviously did.
>>24308621
>i do not understand democracy
That's nice.
>>24308621
he ran on ending the war in Iraq and winding down the conflict in Afghanistan. People elected him because they don't give a shit about the middle east and prodding at the anthill. His second election was because the opposition was Romney who ALSO wanted to blow up millions of brown people so it was going to happen either way.
>>24308638
You vote for someone that represents you. Obama represents the voice of your people and so do all the congressmen in office.
>>24308650
So you had two top candidates who wanted the same thing? Either your political system doesn't work or Americans really wanted chaos in the ME.
>>24308448
Their methods, yes.
>>24308670
> Either your political system doesn't work or Americans really wanted chaos in the ME.
a little bit of both.
>>24308655
>your people
I'm not American.
I do, however, understand that elected officials do not directly enact the will of each person that voted for them.
Some people voted for a different person, some people didn't vote at all, others voted for the candidate that won, but do not agree with everything they do.
Democracy is not so simple that everyone in America agrees with every action of Obama.
Please try to be less ignorant.
riddle me this OP,
who would you feel more sympathy towards if killed: your mom or a colleague. answer carefully because remember: all humans lives matter equally right?
>>24306180
>Implying I give a fuck about geopolitics outside my own country
>Implying I care about sandniggers
>>24308670
>So you had two top candidates who wanted the same thing?
>having to ask that
Why do you think we only have two parties?
They both represent the same interests, have for dozens of years.
News flash: people don't give a shit about third world countries until they catch the fuck up with everyone else.
They got themselves into most of the shit that happens there, due to their culture, politics, religion, etc. They need to fix their shit so death and destruction isn't a common occurrence, then we'll all start caring.
>>24308621
Oh you mean when he was up against Romney who is even more of a war hawk?
Hillary won't win the next election against pretty much anyone but Bush. Because Bush is the only one that loves war more than her.
>>24306180
Boo hoo nobody cares that a country full of bomb makers with names nobody can pronounce blew up,again, for the hundredth time.
Why don't you go fucking Allah ahkbar yourself you dirty fucking dune coon,you filthy fucking sack of shit you make me want to go burn down the local fucking mosque
>why are westerners more concerned with attacks on the west than eastern in-fighting?
Let me guess, >we're one race, the human race! Get realistic, OP.
LET'S BURN DOWN SOME FUCKING MOSQUES
>>24309126
Pretty much this.
Everyone has had about enough of everyone else's shit at this point.
We're well past the point of cheek turning by anyone now. Might as well go all in.
>>24308725
>what are the bretton woods institutes?
>what is structural re-adjustment
smfh
>>24309156
Muslim Kristallnacht when
Palestine doesn't exist, how can terror happen there?
>>24309162
Two things that aren't my fucking problem, that's what.
>>24306180
They purposefully kill civilians and only civilians. We don't.
>>24309243
this level of ignorance is euphoric at the least
Who said I want to pretend to sympathize with people as humans?
This is an anonymous imageboard where people don't need to pretend to care for things for social recognition.
I care about the people in Paris because white people are already falling in numbers due to birth rates and our countries are falling to shit. I find comradery (firefox doesn't recognize that as a word, fuck you firefox) in others like me, but not those in Africa or some other brown area.
Humans are tribal. No amount of meaningless grandstanding on social media will change that.
>>24306180
>boy genius on his high horse forgets that 1. People don't cares about France either and 2. People shouldn't sympathize with cultures that would kill them if given the chance.
So we're humans too right? Sympathize with us while we encourage the extermination of the terrorist world, which does include many innocent people. If you can't, then you're a hypocrite
>>24309359
Camaraderie, my friend :)
>>24309432
I think it's a regional thing
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comradery
>>24306180
It's not that people think that what happened in Paris is sadder than what happens in the Middle East or Africa, it's just that it is not the norm for terrorist attacks to happen in First world countries. It's kind of like the joker pointed out in the Dark Knight: people are fine with horrible things happening as long as it is what's expected. If we as a people got as upset over everything happening in third world places as we did about France than the world would basically be impossible to live in because these things are so common.
>>24309359
>Humans are tribal.
Only uncivilized humans are tribal.
>>24309544
>I'm more human than human
Time to cook my pasta
https://ose.utsc.utoronto.ca/ose/story.php?id=2135
>Previous research shows people are less likely to feel connected to people outside their own ethnic groups, and we wanted to know why,says Gutsell. What we found is that there is a basic difference in the way people's brains react to those from other ethnic backgrounds. Observing someone of a different race produced significantly less motor-cortex activity than observing a person of one's own race.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Salter#Diversity_research
>More ethnically homogeneous nations are better able to build public goods, are more democratic, less corrupt, have higher productivity and less inequality, are more trusting and care more for the disadvantaged, develop social and economic capital faster, have lower crime rates...
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0095660
>Our analysis shows that peace does not depend on integrated coexistence, but rather on well defined topographical and political boundaries separating groups
http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2013/study-asks-is-a-better-world-possible/
>policymakers have attempted to create communities where a diverse group of residents not only live close to one other but also interact freely -in other words, neighborhoods that are both integrated and socially cohesive.
>The more integrated a neighborhood is, the less socially cohesive it becomes, and vice versa.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-06-25jl.html
https://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/
>Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam, author of Bowling Alone, is very nervous about releasing his new research, and understandably so.
>His five-year study shows that immigration and ethnic diversity have a devastating short- and medium-term influence on the social capital, fabric of associations, trust, and neighborliness that create and sustain communities.
I think, at least for some, it's not about the terrorism, or the people who died. I realize it would be hypocritical to only care for those who died in France and not the rest of the world, but I care about the political ramifications. It could spell military involvement, which would be a pain in the ass, honestly.
>>24309544
I think you mean sociable humans.
>>24306180
Given this got posted on /r9k/ it's prolly a troll, but hell lots of people think this so I'll post.
I can't stand social media's moral competition: who can be the most outraged and who can be the most outraged about the most outrageous (read: correct) things.
I see people in my FB feed posting this shit about how we shouldn't be posting about france but about the middle east or kenya or wherever--the same people who I have never seen post about any of these things whatsoever. It's true that fucked up shit happens regularly in certain parts of the world, but does that mean we need to participate in moral one-ups-manship? Really? When people have been murdered?
>>24309563
It isn't a surprise that most normies are against the basics of civilization. The only reason they are a part of it is because their parents shat them into one.
>>24306180
hahaha oh wow
>>24309633
>participate in moral one-ups-manship
It's nothing like that. Some people are tired of the fake grief and want to expose their shit.
>>24309336
>help these mud slimes
>why?
>because you owe them
Why do I owe them anything? I didn't get them into this mess. It sucks that someone else played a role into getting them into this mess, but I don't inherit that.
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So if you grieve a family member dying, you're a hypocrite?
>>24306180
>Developing nations
That's a polite way of saying uncivilized hell holes where getting butchered is an every day occurrence.
They were a bunch of brainwashed Belgians. Trust me don't feel sorry for sandniggers that come from here. The last shooting in france happened by a Belgian muslim too. They genuinly get brainwashed by priests and shit. And they are usually shit. Inb4 Ameridumb complainiong about their 5%nigger rate don't make me laugh please
>>24309686
It's not fake grief. We care about France. We don't care about mudslime shithole #321342
>>24306219
"the occupied territories," if you prefer
>>24309778
>We care about France.
lol no. Let me see your tears /pol/tard.
>>24309839
Could you remake your post and make it coherent this time?
>>24306621
>those who wish to override my individual freedom, which covers the majority of people in iraq, syria, palestine, african countries, pakistan, and, yes, israel
I'm pained at how retarded this post was.
I guess growing up in a wealthy suburb with good schooling and attending a high tier university made me really believe people as dumb as you don't exist, but that was naive I guess.
let the south secede, you inbred retards aren't even part of the same cultural dialogue as literate, northern-state Americans
>>24309126
>>24309156
>>24309195
do you know anything about:
>Islam?
>The Arab World?
>The Middle East?
>19th/20th Century History?
and no, what you heard on Fox/CNN/MSNBC (broadcast news is a joke, and if you get your news from TV you're a bona fide retard, heads up) doesn't count.
get off 4chan and read a book sometime.
>>24308396
Ottoman expansionist policy was driven by secular and territorial motives, and there is substantial scholarship which indicates that the religious authority was subverted to the will of the Sultan and used as a justification for non-religious expansionist motives - ex. Ottoman War against the Safavid Empire.
Sometimes I think I'm the only person on this website who knows literally anything about the Middle East, but I mean if you insist that reading the WSJ makes you the expert I'm not here to convince you of anything.
>>24308339
Political Islam is a largely 20th century phenomena
there's the (you) you were craving
>>24308284
>Destabilize region throughout the twentieth century by deposing progressive governments to protect imperialist interests
>Genuinely surprised when anti-West factions become the norm in the region
...
>>24309981
So in one case the state controlled religion and in the other religion controls the state?
>>24309981
So the conquered people's religion made no difference? Muslims and non-Muslims were treated equally, as were Pagans?
Of course the empire was driven to expand because that's what empires do, but Islam was a key aspect of its culture and how it regarded those it subjugated.
>implying I gave a shit when paris got attacked
Nigga I gave up on humanity years ago, we are all walking shit.
>>24306180
As soon as the media needs to justify destroying and overrunning white society, then they start looking at all the shit THEY'VE been ignoring for the last 10 years, and saying "See? YOU deserve it, even though 80% of the actual citizens were against these wars"
Fucking liars.
>>24309686
Eh. I speak french and have lived in france. I have friends there, so when I heard the news I was quite worried simply because some of my friends work in Paris.
Those who are "exposing" "fake grief" are doing it to show just how truly and deeply aggrieved they are and how those who grieve for paris aren't grieving as authentically.
It's literally a moral hipsterdom. "I was feeling for the disasters of the world deep in my heart before it was cool."
That said, the west is quite comfortable with terror and enormity so long as it doesn't come knocking. But that doesn't make it any less lame to one-up people over the internet because you think you feel oh so much deeper for all these other disasters. Social media's outrage competition sucks.
>look how righteous i am! i care more than you guys!
>waah why am i so much better than everyone??
this is you fucking retards sound
get off your high horse jesus christ
>>24310108
>Muslims and non-Muslims were treated equally
more or less, although there are different policies based on religion regarding forced conscription at different times throughout Ottoman history (as in pre/post Tanzimat)
>as were Pagans?
no, there is a distinction between people of The Book (Muslims, Christians, Jews) and others.
Islam was indisputably a key cultural facet of the Ottoman Empire, but they didn't give a shit if you weren't Muslim, so long as you paid Jizya (tax on non-Muslims Ottoman subjects) which is approximately equal to Zakat (obligatory Muslim charity as a function of net income/wealth) so in reality, the notion that non-Muslims within the Empire were treated especially poorly isn't really true. You were far better off being a Christian or Jew in Ottoman lands than a Jew or Muslim in European lands.
>>24310051
This is, of course, talking about 16th/17th century history, so getting on a high horse about separation of Church and State is a moot point, since no comparable movement had come to fruition in Europe by this point.
But regarding your post, that's a complicated question; sort of?
>>24310216
>I have no point and I never seen a nigger or am a nigger waaah
>>24309927
>all this projecting
Look m8, if I could go back in time and stop MI6 / CIA / BP from fucking up Iran, giving aiding Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war, supporting mujahideen and Osama against the Soviets, and just generally fucking about in the ME all the time without any oversight I would.
But it's too late for all that.
It doesn't matter what we do now, they fucking hate us and want us to die.
How do you deal with ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, all these fucks? Gas them, level the entire city, kill everyone they ever spoke with.
It is the only way now.
No amount of OMG-WHAT-YEAR-IS-IT-EDUCATE-YOURSELF bleeding heart bullshit will change that.
>>24310258
if you have any interest in Ottoman history, Caroline Finkel's "Osman's Dream" is a good resource; I'd supply other books, but I actually can't find my research bibliography right now, it's a few semesters old, so I might have deleted the document
>>24310264
>waah i can't read
>>24310258
I really don't believe that, especially the pagan part since there is a very clear distinction between them and, as you said, the "people of the book".
. If they were seen as equal they would not be so subjugated and forbidden from testifying against Muslims in courts or holding onto their children instead of becoming janissaries or the like.
They would not have been regarded as subhuman for not submitting to Allah.
Empires are not happy things, even if it's not white people that run them.
>>24310183
>grieving as authentically
You are getting it all wrong, people like OP do not give a shit about France or any other place. They are just showing you that it is possible to sympathize for everyone. This is of course designed to make you feel bad because you only changed your FB pic for French metalheads but not the Lebanese or the guy that tackled a suicide bomber to save his daughter.
>>24306180
3rd world countries don't fucking matter. Is this news to you?
>>24310277
>they fucking hate us and want us to die
Who's they? Do you really think even 1% of the middle east wakes up in the morning with a personal grudge on you and your freedoms? The only people that have anything against the west is the terrorists.
>>24306180
This thread just shows how normie r9k has become. Tragedies have always been the source of amazing jokes and the killing of dune coons has always been a nice ten minutes on live leak
>>24310491
>1%
>let me just pull numbers out of my ass
That's nice.
Look, whether it is 0.00001% or 25%, it doesn't change what we have to do.
>>24310491
Are there any "terrorists" who aren't nuslim.
Don't call them terrorists, call them what they fucking are. They're fundamentalist Muslims. Pure, unashamed, perfect islam.
>Europe
>The White Man's ancestral home
>France
>The pioneer of Western political thought an philosophy, one of the most renowned empires in history
And somehow we should care about some shitskin countries that literally get bombed every single day. France was innocent. France was at peace. This attack violated France, and because of that it violated all of Europe.
>>24310871
>France was innocent. France was at peace.
Pretty sure France is in NATO dude.
>implying any Syrians give a shit about some American dying in a car accident
>but muh everybody is equal
