Myers Briggs thread / INTP central
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
>ENTJ
>Feel left out because nobody banters me
>>24149434
I knew INFJs were normies. INFP and INTP forever.
>>24149857
Fellow ENTJ here.
Nobody banters you because you're probably really bad at it.
>>24149989
It's possible.
>>24149434
INTP here
It's all over red rover
>>24149989
Terrible banter, friend.
>>24150016
>>24150090
You're really disappointing me right now, Anon.
>>24150157
Yeah, well you're mother.
INFP niggers i'm the best
>>24149912
INFJ here. We're more /cyborg/. We can be social and accepted as a normie might, but we also fear rejection and abandonment. We will never feel like we fit in perfect and it will be the bane of us.
We feel shit, man.
>>24150234 I respect that spongebob usage right there
>>24149434
Well, might as well end myself now.
>tfw social but rejected
>tfw so alone
>>24150234
>We're more /cyborg/.
What a fucking farce. Anybody who uses that word is a normalfag. Plenty of people feel insecure, you're just a whiny faggot and you have no idea what it's like to be truly alone.
>>24149912
I disagree, Si is the normalfag function and we don't use it and its the demon in our shadow. We along with INTJ are essentially the most anti-normal types, the difference is INFJs use Fe so we can fake it, this is why we have people like Hitler and Gandhi, if you read that stuff about Hitler from his friend he was a proto-robot who learned how to fake it. We're really good at converting people one vs one.
>>24149434
>INTJ is 50% socially participative and 80% socially dominant
Really? Seriously? Who made this chart? I want to choke the little fag.
>>24149434
>INTP
NORMIES GET OUT!!!
GEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!
OOOOOOOOOUUUUUTTTTTTT!!!
>>24150356
Hello brother, it's nice to see another one out there...
>>24150356
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i'm INFP bruh
>>24150320
>you have no idea what it's like to be truly alone
Sure is groundless accusations around here.
lol it's /r9k/ what did I expect
>>24150426
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>bruh
You make me ashamed of being an INFP.
INFP reporting in.Please end my suffering ;_;
>>24150452
ow you hurt my feelings
>>24150320
>Everything is either black or white
>You are either one thing or another
>No how dare you share a bit of column a and column b!
You super autists are insufferable sometimes.
>>24150474
my mannnn, suffer all day amirite?
>>24150444
It's most likely true if you call yourself a cyborg. That generally means you have a friend group.
>ENTJ
>Extravert(59%) iNtuitive(28%) Thinking(59%) Judging(16%)
>You have distinct preference of Extraversion over Introversion (59%)
>You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (28%)
>You have distinct preference of Thinking over Feeling (59%)
>You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (16%)
It feels good to be the correct type.
Question for those who do things the wrong way all the time: why?
>>24150487
Cyborg is a term for social, even well adjusted people to feel special. It just demonstrates that you believe normalfags are thoughtless, and that, despite consorting with them, you cannot truly feel close with people because of your "dark sense of humor" or "deep-seated insecurity". You think of yourself as a soulful observer of human interaction when you go out, get drunk, fuck women, and banter with the m8s. It's narcissistic and kind of pathetic. There is nothing wrong with being a normalfag, and if you have friends you talk to more than once a month you are one. Don't pretend to be something you aren't to feel included in an anonymous "community".
>>24150234
>Fe-aux
>cyborg
kek
>one chance at life
>be INFP
>tfw no gay INFP bf
>>24149434
Got entp seems somewhat accurate.
How am I meant to know whether I rely more on feelings than analysis when making a decision?
>>24150670
>feeling the need to type this all out
>>24150777
Don't take the test too seriously I get different results all the time. You're more likely too lie if you base your decisions on emotions the test is silly.
>>24150777
The fact that you're asking this means it's analysis.
>Lucky trips
>>24149912
>rarest type
>normie
>>24150670
Nice mental gymnastics, again not everything is black and white.
Pic related is what a cyborg was meant to be. This picture and its variants have been around longer than your little 'robot' circlejerk.
>>24150821
Funny, I consider 8 to be lucky trips. Thanks anon.
>>24150820
I heard that, not sure why so many people put so much stock in it
>>24150789
>four sentences is too much to type
>being this out of ideas
Was I on the mark?
>>24150333
>implying hitler wasn't a genuinely caring leader who loved his people
>>24150670
>Don't pretend to be something you aren't to feel included in an anonymous "community".
>to feel included in an anonymous "community"
>to feel included
>anonymous "community"
>>24149434
ISFP
Introvert(66%) Sensing(25%) Feeling(3%) Perceiving(44%)
You have distinct preference of Introversion over Extraversion (66%)
You have moderate preference of Sensing over Intuition (25%)
You have marginal or no preference of Feeling over Thinking (3%)
You have moderate preference of Perceiving over Judging (44%)
I've seen friends' change, but I've been ISFP for around 5 years now, don't think I'll change any time soon.
>>24150845
>I don't like parties but I go to them anyways
So you're just retarded? Thank god I'm an INFP.
>>24150909
Do the scare quotes upset you? If you care about fitting into an anonymous community where nobody knows who you are and nobody would care if you left, that's just dumb. Why would you give a shit about being excluded from a group which basically circlejerks over being losers?
>>24150870
Of course he did, but in his youth he acted exactly the same way robots do. If Hitler was around today he'd obsess over his waifu and arguing on chinese image boards.
>>24150982
He would probably still be a normie though. He maybe autisic but he always really smart and strong willed. Many spergs make it today except you didn't because you are a supper sperg in mama and papas basement.
>>24149434
>ctrl-f
>"istp"
>0 results
Anyone else know this feel?
>>24150971
>If you care about fitting into an anonymous community
>care about fitting into an anonymous community
>care about
>an anonymous community
The joke here is that the only person who cares about this concept is you.
>>24149434
>ISFJ
>6w5
>no ENTP gf
>INTJ
Pretty autistic. I wonder if it's better or worse than being a INTP.
>>24151054
I just can't stand seeing people so confused about their identities. I had to make those people honest with themselves.
>>24150971
No, you're just twisting things now.
Do you watch anime?
Kurisu from S;G is an INFJ
Umaru is an ENFJ but you get the idea, same with Kirino.
>>24151042
Yes exactly, a sperg who can fake it to make it.
>>24150982
Probably. He was even a weeaboo.
>>24151242
>believing the faggots that type fictional characters
>thinking Kurisu is a robot or even a cyborg
>thinking it means anything that you're a "sperg at heart" when you're surrounded by people who cuddle with pillows to avoid crying when they try to sleep
Have tested INTJ, INFJ and most recently INFP
What the fuck is wrong with me
>>24151042
But the Western world today is so different.
Especially in the US, people are more naive and generally dumber than they were when Hitler was alive. If he came of age in 2015 America he would probably experience a severe disconnect from society and have trouble functioning.
http://similarminds.com/personality_types.html#.VkFAbuJ9th5
This is a list of traits over-represented in your type based on personal report. No sugar coated bullshit, a lot of types are mostly negative.
>>24151242
>using horoscope archetypes unironically and attributing them to imaginary cartoon characters
this is bait
>>24151400
But he was polish bro and then German. Not American.. You're an idiot.
>>24150982
Hitler was most likely an INFJ. Ni/Fe is the perfect tool to manipulate people according to your vision, and as an INFJ you can rationalize your actions with your internal logic framework (Ti ).
>>24151443
I mean austrian
>>24151043
Every single time.
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>>24151356
http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/infj-or-intj.php
http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/infj-or-infp.php
>>24151349
Nevermind, you clearly can't grasp what I'm trying to explain to you.
>>24151436
>Stop having fun
>>24151443
It was hypothetical you autist. I imagined him as an American because the US is the most influential country in the modern world.
Germany and Austria today have been heavily influenced by US culture too.
>>24151436
If you can analyze a real personality, why not a fictional one?
People have written entire books on single characters.
>>24151043
i am very well acquainted with this feel
>>24151576
Don't bother, they're probably a feeler. And sensor.
>>24151548
>Most influental
What? So that half assed reason would be 'why' Hitler would live in America? America is basically more negatively influental than possitively. No.. You are the autist bruh trust me haha.
>>24151487
>http://www.celebritytypes.com/test/infj-or-intj.php
well according to this I came out INTJ
Maybe I am the super autist
>>24151436
>thinking that comparing MBTI to horoscopes is a valid comparison
This is the easiest way to spot normies, they'll parrot this over and over again without even thinking as to why it's completely inaccurate.
>>24151487
>test INFJ
>have thought I'm INFP for a long time, although I used to test INFJ
I always straddle the line between these two types. Virtually every descriptor for both types in >>24151422 applies to me.
>>24151513
>Nevermind, you clearly can't grasp what I'm trying to explain to you.
This is the laziest cop out ever, dude.
>>24151043
Istp here.
>>24151691
Those tests are unreliable, you should determine if you use introverted or extroverted intuition first, then go from there. Or use one of the better, but still inaccurate, tests.
http://www.25quiz.com/
http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm
>>24151746
It's completely inaccurate because horoscopes have no damn basis in reality; but of course baby boomer pop science has everyone convinced that shit has merit.
>>24151678
>America is basically more negatively influental than positively.
Agreed.
But my point was that even Germany today is influenced by US culture, and it's illegal to even question the Allied version of World War II.
The whole Western world is so Americanized that it might not matter whether he grew up in Germany or the US.
>>24151778
The first one gave me 34/33 split on INTP and ISTP
I hate the sliding scale style tests, because there's no real metric of what the difference between a 2 and a 5 is so I end up sitting middle of the road too often. That's probably why I keep getting different results.
>>24151810
Wow. Do you.. really believe that? Really? You think litterly everything comes from America? Fuck man you people are sheltered from the world yes it would make a diference. It doesn't really matter much but still man.
>>24151769
Because you won't listen to me, I typed her in a thread here a while ago and other anon agreed she was an INFJ. I wouldn't put her as a Cyborg either but she goes online and can talk to people normally.
My point is I don't fit in and can't relate to normalfags, /r9k/ used to be where I felt at home but I don't fit in this perfect little mold you assholes created so people made another term for these kind of people. How ever for some reason this upset you so much you have to lump me together with the people I can't stand.
Really you guys always complain about how you have no friends and shit then when somebody who can relate on some level comes along and you instantly dismiss us. I don't get it, I would much rather talk to a robot and would even help them if I could than some boring mundane normalshit. Guess you guys really do like wallowing in your own pity but so do I, I just don't take it out on people.
>>24151972
I mean it doesn't really matter this entire thing that's what I meant
>tfw INTP schizoid
>tfw can't comprehend 99% of the complains on /r9k/
>tfw it's a good feel
>>24151994
I'm sorry. That paragraph I wrote about you was pretty accurate, but I like you anyways.
>>24151786
>horoscopes have no damn basis in reality
The month of your birth is a predictor of what will happen to you, like, you have more chances to have a depression or to play in the NBA depending of the month you were born in.
Give a look at the book the Outliers, it has a chapter talking about it.
It has, of course, fucking nothing to do with planets and stars. I guess our ancestors just noticed a trend and made that funky narrative to explain it.
> Scorpio, Leo, Taurus and Cancer signs are the most likely Signs to earn a 6 figures salary
>>24152294
Its sounds like you are believing the bullshit you are spewing. Please tell me I am wrong.
>>24149434
I wish I was ESTP so I could match my waifu
>>24151513
>>24152294
Maybe the effect on gravity is what effects peoples mood and in the early years of your life this can influence your personality? I'm just theorizing here, I used to find astrology interesting but I know it's pretty much bullshit.
>>24151163
>I just can't stand seeing people so confused about their identities. I had to make those people honest with themselves.
This is some next-level autism.
>>24151043
I am become that feel
>>24149434
INFP male here.
Socially submissive huh? Makes sense to me. I'm ok with it though, I like the way I am.
>tfw 4w5 INFP
>tfw will never be good enough
>tfw don't know who I am
>tfw woe is me
>>24152485
It pains me to see people like you, you're so clueless.
>>24152695
>It pains me to see people like you, you're so clueless.
How so?
Enlighten me, wise one.
>>24152715
>>24151163 was just a desperation post. I was cornered in the banter and I had to change my position.
>ISTJ
>Wagekek: The Personality
>"Socially Participative"
>Only do work when required, avoid any other interactions
Any ISTJ slaves here?
>>24149434
Intp here. Tend to have a few close friends but too socially rejective for bsing, not good at networking either. However some women do like me, usually after they get to know me, some of them are fine too. Basically low profile, clicked with my click, strong point is my mind and that people say I am unique. Girls who got a little too much going on upstairs for a boring Chad like me.
>>24152427
The book Outliers gives several examples and explanations.
For example in some sports, they're scouting "talented" people at a young age, and people born the same year will be in the same group. At this age, being born a month earlier may make a difference in ability, and you'll be chosen over the other kids who're just slightly youngers.
>>24152344
I'm just noticing that horoscopes are just as good as MBTI and other recent stuff using a more "modern" approach about bullshiting, that's all. I'm not saying it's any good or reliable, just that it isn't worse.
> Libra are about 30% less likely to get divorced
> Virgo are the less likely to have many kids (no surprise here)
> Sagittarius have almost one extra sex partner on average than the other signs
istp
constantly wondering why everyone can't be as awesome as me
>>24153070
>I'm not saying it's any good or reliable, just that it isn't worse.
Bullshit. MBTI is at least a theory on how the human brain works and it's measurable to an extent with brain scans. You can see activity in certain areas that correspond to specific functions, and it's been shown that the amount of brain activity varies greatly from person to person - or type to type, if you want.
It may be pseudo-science and it's most definitely not entirely correct, but with the advances of neurosciences, we might just see in the future.
Astrology doesn't have shit going for it.
Intj here. I wish to kill off all the esfjs of the planet. Istjs stop being so dense, enfjs stop being so emotion of stupid things that don't matter and infps should all become traps and everyone is happy.
>>24152485
Autists can't process other people's feelings.
Infp here. Seems like a lot of us are infp
>>24153070
>Outliers
Might give it a read, I've been meaning to read Carl Jungs stuff but I'm not sure where to begin. Do you know where I can get a pdf or something ?
>>24153357
So autism is Fi / Te ?
>>24153482
haha what a crazy coincidence
>>24153546
Not him, but Fi is internal and conscious, relating to one's own feelings. I don't see that as a typical trait that implies autism. Te is, if anything, a sociopath function.
Also from a site quoting a book
>There appears to be evidence supporting a relationship between type INTP and Asperger's. Whether this relation is a matter of definition, degree, or actual concurrence remains to be seen. The question of misdiagnosis should be taken very seriously, since some of the treatments for autism have been determined to be "torture" by civil rights groups, and the victims of "therapy" show symptoms of fullblown PTSD.
http://oddlydevelopedtypes.com/content/intps-and-aspergers-syndrome-0
>>24149434
I'm INTP and got placed here
>>24153652
Sorry I was sort of joking as autism tends to be be common amongst INTJs as Fi is their "eternal child" function .
>>24150356
It's so bad to be INTP?
>>24153737
While I can see that happening, the INTP's inferior and very often repressed Fe indicates that they can't read other person's emotions very well or at all, and thus it should be much more likely for them to have autistic tendencies.
Ni-doms, paradoxically even INTJ as rationals, can often read people very well as well as between the lines.
>>24153928
Oh I see what you mean, sort of like the inferior Se in INxJs is why we're so hung up on sex?
>>24153251
>MBTI is at least a theory on how the human brain works and it's measurable to an extent with brain scans.
Brain scans have been done for Zodiac Signs too, and, surprise, they also gave "results". Your brain is (very slightly) different depending of the month you're born in. It includes a greater chance of Schizophrenia or having less grey area than a Scorpio.
If I had a brain scanner, I would probably waste taxes money on that kind of bullshit too. It's just too damn funny.
> The only plausible thing I've read so far about MBTI is the correlation between INTP and personnality disorders.
>>24149434
>ENTJ
>Post on this shit board
What the fuck man
INFP here
>tfw no INFP bf to build a shelter from the world with
>>24154029
January schizo here
I would never want to be a summerfriend
They don't appreciate the beauty of winter like we do
ENTP here. Does anyone else know what it's like to be thoroughly extroverted yet you always get rejected because your interests are different or because you are ugly as fuck? I only have one or two normal hobbies to talk about with people and girls won't even touch me because I'm a solid 2/10
>>24153972
Yeah kind of like that. It's either battling and suppressing the Se or, when under extreme stress, overindulging in Se experiences (drugs, sex, food, any addiction including vidya, etc.).
>>24154029
>Your brain is (very slightly) different depending of the month you're born in.
This could, for instance, be because the exposure to the sun is greater/smaller/longer/whatever during certain months, which could have some kind of (scientific) effect we don't know of.
You can say the same thing about Virgos having less children: exposure to certain measurable factors can make changes in gene sequences more likely.There's a "fat" gene, a gene that makes cheating more or less likely for people. It's entirely possible that there's some kind of sequence that influence the wish to procreate.
Bottom line is, astrology explains it with divination crap, when in fact, pretty much everything can rationally and logically be explained. We're just too primitive and ignorant to be able to do so yet.
One of the <5 ISFJs of /r9k/ reporting in.I get to somewhat fulfill my protection urges so that's something.
>>24154229
Your exposure to sun will mostly depend on how much you go out and it will vastly differ from person to person. If we speculate everbody goes out at same hours, it will depend on which parallel you're on. Even seasons will differ depending on which hemisphere you're on. And no we aren't too pirimitive or ignorant. One group of selected people will always differ from another group no matter what criteria you're applying there. Tying that with the month of birth is plain old pseudoscience.
>>24151043
>>24151927
This test gave me ISTJ, another gave me ISTP. But the judging/perceiving margin on this test was so small (3%) that, as noted in the results, I'm probably just somewhere in between ISTJ and ISTP.
So... right in the middle of the road, according to OP's chart.
>>24154587
>Your exposure to sun will mostly depend on how much you go out and it will vastly differ from person to person.
And that's when your genes are created? Okay.
>>24154587
The example with scientific explanations based on month was just to say that even if months had any influence (I agree that they don't) there would still be a logical explanation.
>>24151100
>ENTP
> Everyone thinks I'm the biggest bitch before I even open my mouth.
ISTP reporting in
>>24154803
Not him, but I'm intrigued if you are a female ENTP. Why do people think you're a bitch? How do you differ from more stereotypical women? How do guys react to you?
>>24149434
I took this awhile ago and got INTP.
I didn't really think much of it. The self can't be categorized into 16 types. Ever person has a distinct genius, and observations on life only they would make.
INTP-A with an INTP-A gf
I'm the highest value male and female of our respective communities.
She makes me feel like a man and I make her feel like a woman. We're both so gifted in our own right.
Lesser types come to us for advice which we give out readily and happily. ENTJs fear us because they can't control us.
>>24154866
ENTPs are just giant cunts, both male and female.
Who would have guessed arguing for the sake of arguing and thinking you're better than everyone else aren't likable traits?
>>24154971
What's that A at the end?
>>24154971
>we're the highest*
>>24154898
You're too fixated on type descriptions and don't understand what MBTI is about. Look at the underlying model with the functions and you'll understand how it's not entirely unreasonable to catagorize people into 16 types.
http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/16Types/16Types.cfm
>>24155012
Assertive versus turbulent (T)
It basically means you're emotionally stable and not a bitch.
>>24154803
>Dat strong personality
would beta orbit desu
>not worthy of an ENTP atm
I need to improve myself first
>>24153685
INFJ.
This is mine.
>>24155046
No, It is unreasonable.
I'm not saying this out of some hubretical opinion of mine, but I seriously doubt that taking a limited test can pinpoint one's "personality." Freud would be apeshit over this.
Our conscious mind doesn't really understand what we want or are. Our conscious decisions to answers the questions is proof enough the tests are skewed out of control. See humans will input an idealistic imagination of what their personality is, but really what make us human what gives us our innate divinity in our heart of hearts, is our sub conscious. This is also assuming the input data even means anything.
Most of the time our true personality doesn't show as we conform to society and routine.
Emerson and Thoreau were both drawn to the forest. For when we are lost, we find ourselves.
Listening to a computer program about the categorization of your personality is antithetical to personality. We can't be define, we are unique pieces of the universe, god's machinations, science, or whatever you want to call it.
Only when we return to the sepulcher of earth do we become non-distinct.
As Walt Whitman would say, every blade of grass is deserving of a poem.
Do not allow your self to be a collective entity anon.
>INFP
>second-to-last in annual income
>most likely to commit suicide
>socially the worst type
>and I'm gay, fat and ugly
It's a hard life.
>>24154159
mayfag here
i hate summer
>ESFJ
any other normies here? haha probably not you guys are all losers
>>24154229
>There's a "fat" gene
But in most cases lifestyle and diet have more to do with it.
>>24155245
Getting dick is a lot easier than getting pussy.
>>24155311
I don't just want dick though senpai.
I want love.
>>24154803
http://www.celebritytypes.com/entp.php
Makes sense. Most of the ENTPs have a please-smack-me face.
>>24155237
As I said, you don't really understand. Your type isn't determined by some kind of test, it's determined by introspection and discovering your function stack, i.e. how you perceive and process information. Personality type is NOT personality.
Looking at your own replies, despite the test giving you INTP as result, it's much more indicative of Fi/Ne/Si (INFP) reasoning than an INTP's Ti/Ne/Si.
>>24154898
>giving people this much credit
>>24155237
>Freud
I stopped reading there.
>>24155237
Why do people with no Psychology-related knowledge bring up Freud in any discussion, especially if he's wholly unrelated to the subject at hand? Is it the person attempting to pretend that they know what they're talking about? Confusing behavior.
>>24155307
True, it's the classical nature vs nurture thing, and nurture is most likely the much stronger force here.
>>24155484
Although it's true that some races store fat more readily than others.
>creative, smart, idealist, loner, attracted to sad things, disorganized, avoidant, can be overwhelmed by unpleasant feelings, prone to quitting, prone to feelings of loneliness, ambivalent of the rules, solitary, daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness, focus on fantasies, acts without planning, low self confidence, emotionally moody, can feel defective, prone to lateness, likes esoteric things, wounded at the core, feels shame, frequently losing things, prone to sadness, prone to dreaming about a rescuer, disorderly, observer, easily distracted, does not like crowds, can act without thinking, private, can feel uncomfortable around others, familiar with the darkside, hermit, more likely to support marijuana legalization, can sabotage self, likes the rain, sometimes can't control fearful thoughts, prone to crying, prone to regret, attracted to the counter culture, can be submissive, prone to feeling discouraged, frequently second guesses self, not punctual, not always prepared, can feel victimized, prone to confusion, prone to irresponsibility, can be pessimistic
INFP is truly one of the worse types.
>>24151100
>INTP
>5w6
>no ISFJ gf
>>24154971
tfw no INTP gf to be cold and autistic with
>>24154971
;;;____:;;;;;;;;; you gotta be living the dream
Well at least there's no dissonance.
>>24155592
We're actually both really warm people.
But we can discuss anything logically, even things that should offend us. I tell her about everything /r9k/ says and she agrees with it.
INTP gf is pretty solid, much better than my ENTJ (giant, crazy, whore/cunt) and ESFJ (retarded)
I'm an INFP. I have no friends, I'm horribly lonely, and I don't know if I'll graduate college because I keep trying to kill myself. I want somebody to hear about my life and feel that I'm worth saving, but I'm far too paranoid about women hating weakness to ever tell one about everything that happened to me, or even that I feel lonely.
>tfw no bf
>>24155636
I'm actually ridiculously happy. I'm incredibly lucky to have her in my life.
What's your type?
>>24155659
Funny, types with mirrored functions (swap I/E and J/P) are said to be very good combos for partnerships.
>>24155551
There's nothing positive about being an INFP. INFP females are really annoying feminists, and INFP males are beta bitches.
INFP's role is to be weaker than the rest.
>>24155704
INTP and I don't know whether im assertive or turbulent, doesnt matter
How did you meet her?
>>24155422
>>24155437
>>24155399
>>24155442
Firstly, I openly admit I have no in depth knowledge of Freud, but it's a very common name when talking about the sub-conscious or "The tip of the iceberg" in the human mind.
If you would prefer I could have said something about Edgar Allen Poe, Charles Brockden Brown, or Nathaniel Hawthorne. I could talk all day about my interpretations on the sub-conscious mind, and that's what it is an interpretation.
Emerson famously said he'd rather never read than become a satellite and lose his place as system, or something or other. I'm just telling you my own views on this, and giving you a name that invokes the topic I'm speaking of.
Also, I will admit I didn't read the article completely on what this test means, because frankly I disagree.
What our brain perceives is whatever fancy we throw onto on object. Even the most rational mind can be deceived into believing in ghosts when the lights are dimmed and the person is weary.
The best way I can describe further with what I mean is that scene from Deep Space Nine when Sisko made contact with the god-like entity. The entity kept telling him he existed in the memory of his wife dying, and he didn't really understand. Until he broke down in tears and realized that in every waking second he relives the scene of his wifes death. No matter how he tried to present himself, that was really where his mind existed whether he realized it openly or not.
I do not believe the self, or an individuals thoughts can be analyzed. Sometimes things just don't emerge in our brain on a day to day basis.
Sure you can tell me I'm wrong, but honestly I don't really think I can be convinced otherwise. I understand the other side of the argument, but I simply disagree with it.
>>24155728
Yeah, I'd agree to an extent. There was something electric about my ENTJ.
But ultimately what we valued in ourselves and other were the same, but for completely opposite reasons and I wasn't okay with that.
>>24155742
INFP here, studying to be a doctor. It's fucking weird, because I have to act all confident with patients and stuff, and I really can't bring myself to that. On the other hand, the feeling of treating someone makes me imensely happy. INFP is a strange type.
>>24149434
ISTJ MASTER RACE BITCHES
>>24155766
She sat down next to me on the coach at a party and I asked her Myers-Briggs type and if she's had any weird dreams. It proceeded from there and I wound up staying up until 11 am talking with her.
She dated the ENTJ alpha male of my community but they broke up pretty quickly. He and I kinda vied for dominance on the floor and I wound up winning due to being available to help people.
She and I hung out as friends for about 2 months. We both wanted to date one another but both played our hands too close to our chest and didn't reveal any signs. It all eventually exploded with us being really upset with one another and she finally said she liked me and it moved on from there.
>>24154971
>"I" type
>valuable in any way
Hahaha.
>ENTJs fear us because they can't control us.
Nobody needs to "control" a spazz like you. Just letting you flail around like a retard is entertainment enough.
>>24155810
>What our brain perceives is whatever fancy we throw onto on object.
It's not about the what, it's about the how.
>Also, I will admit I didn't read the article completely on what this test means, because frankly I disagree.
That's why you can't possibly be a Ti-dom. An interested INTP would dissect the theory and point out it flaws with logical reasoning.
I only have teriary Fi myself, but your posts have written Fi-dom written so much over them, it's not even funny.
>but really what make us human what gives us our innate divinity in our heart of hearts, is our sub conscious
>true personality doesn't show as we conform to society and routine.
>Listening to a computer program about the categorization of your personality is antithetical to personality
>We can't be define, we are unique pieces of the universe, god's machinations, science, or whatever you want to call it.
Everything you say is basically about how the individual is unique and must not be a sheep but authentic.
I could go on. It's ironic that your own posts prove that the tests are shit, but you can make good assumptions about how the functions work together.
>>24155810
Such an INFP.
I didn't even read your post; I just saw all the people's work you were referencing.
Get this in your head dude, no one gives a shit about your taste in anything; it's all subjective.
>>24155908
Not at all. You were born to be a wage slave and live a mediocre life as a normie.
>>24155924
Nice, lemme guess, a buttblasted ENTJ who can't accept they're not better than someone?
You guys think you're pretty smart but you're brutes when it comes to thinking.
>>24155877
Yeah I get that.
I'm surprised you went into medicine. Most INFPs I know went into softer fields.
>>24155910
>She sat down next to me on the coach at a party and I asked her Myers-Briggs type
You talk as if most people were aware of the MBTI, at least in your community that I dont know what it is, are they
>>24155910>>24155910
>We both wanted to date one another but both played our hands too close to our chest and didn't reveal any signs. It all eventually exploded with us being really upset with one another and she finally said she liked me and it moved on from there.
What a wonderful and stereotypical display of a shriveled Fe.
>>24155924
hahaha someone's hit
>>24156009
>You guys think you're pretty smart but you're brutes when it comes to thinking.
MBTI is not an indicator of intelligence...it's a personality type thing.
Way to make yourself look like a fool. Are you really this desperate for something to feel superior about?
>>24155939
Define logic then, I would venture to guess every single person has a unique logic that lead them to their actions. I can't see inside your head, but there is some process some function that drives the things you say.
Every single person uses perfect logic when trying to speak their ideas. So to me, I am dissecting this argument with my logic. What other logic should I use on a subjective matter?
Sure their is perfect objective logic in topics such as, math, but there isn't really much that has a stringent ruleset. For example, I'm a CS major, and I have to use very precise and scientific logic to solve problems. Thing is I really could care less in situations with less restrictions.
Our duty as scholars and inhabitants of this world is to explore nature (nature being everything around us). Having a preset mentality or following others interpretations just seems like a hollow existence.
Sorry to the guy who said no one cares about my tastes, but the best analogy I can give is Hamlet.
He was the Prince of Denmark and found Denmark to be a prison. He made the assertion anything can be a prison in the right mindset.
Don't die a death like a slave, hoping to be a free, and scared.
Acknowledging that you think a certain why is just another prison, another conformity you apply to your self.
>>24155940
Also, I realize you are trying to shit on me, but you have spoken my point exactly. It's all subjective. There is no definitive thought process, unless we confine ourselves to it.
>>24155910
>She sat down next to me on the coach at a party and I asked her Myers-Briggs type and if she's had any weird dreams. It proceeded from there
Honestly that's a bad sign if that's how the relationship starts.
>>24156118
Wow, that's condescending, but I guess you're probably envious/jealous so you're attacking me and her to feel better about yourself.
It's okay, buddy, just be yourself and you'll find your dream girl.
>>24156195
>Drawing the wrong conclusion
If you don't get it; you don't get it. Just don't attack me based on your ignorance.
>>24156205
You should understand that if everything is subjective, then even to call something subjective isn't and objective answer.
>>24156262
You made a direct assertion and I refuted it.
You can leave now, this "YOU MISUNDERSTOODDD!!!" crap is kiddie shit.
>>24156213
You've never dated an INTP then.
>>24156205
>I would venture to guess every single person has a unique logic that lead them to their actions
You're right in that both Ti and Fi (both introverted judging functions) are subjective.
Your reasoning is entirely based on an internal framework of values though. The framework makes sense to you, i.e. it is logical, but it's not the logic that is defined in MBTI or that an NT would predominantly use.
>Sure their is perfect objective logic in topics such as, math, but there isn't really much that has a stringent ruleset.
Classical left brain logic is commonly associated with Te (extroverted thinking) in the theory.
>>24156052
I still get anxious sometimes, but it's way better than it was before.
>>24155910
Jesus christ you sound like an insufferable retard. Thank goodness you found someone as stupid and petty as you to spend approximately the next six months with before she leaves you for a real man.
>>24156241
Chill the fuck out man, it was a joke. I thought someone who knows about type theory would understand. Besides I already have a girlfriend I'm happy with.
>be me
>INTJ
>got the smarts
>introverted af
>no motivation to do anything
>fail university
>fml
ENFP here. Sup guys!
>>24156241
>I guess you're probably envious/jealous so you're attacking me and her to feel better about yourself
Lol people are punking on you because you're making yourself out to be the biggest faggot in the universe right now, not because they "envy" you.
>tfw no gay INFP bf
I want to make somebody happy
>>24156378
hey hey hello
>>24156367
Find something you actually enjoy and has the potential to give you autonomy in the long run, then get good at it.
>>24156290
Okay I'll spell it out for you.
There's ways of going about a problem, either solving it through hard work or through creativity.
From my limited experience, ENTJs often will not stop to question a problem, they will simply face it head on.
INTPs tend to go about solving a problem in a roundabout way but often be wishywashy on ever actually trying to get in there and doing the work.
These are only two examples but highlight the comparison I was trying to make
Intelligence doesn't have much to do with that.
I'm honestly surprised no one has used the "brute force" terminology in regards to problem solving.
>>24156419
not him but how?
>>24156472
>defacing the original chart
>>24156472
I was doing ICT at uni because I thought I was good at it, but eventually it got boring and I started to hate it.
I have no idea what else I would enjoy doing.
>>24156350
Shriveled fe triggered me.
It was a big problem I had when I was younger and it greatly improved as I matured.
So I saw it as an attack on my character. Shriveled is such a strong word.
>>24156288
I'm not sure what you mean. Could you expand?
Subjectivity/Objectivity is such a hard situation to keep straight. Because to everyone there is local objectivity and subjectivity. So things I might consider objective might be subjective to you.
>>24156317
I won't deny that the test could be a good classification of a rough template for how the brain might work, but I think submitting to this ideology on a personal level is not a good idea.
At a very basic level, the thing I want to enunciate is that people identifying as a a certain brain framework is a bad thing. It's one more constraint people will put in there head. One more nagging impulse telling them to act a certain way.
I can see it as a language for scientists/scholars to try and start analyzing the brain. It gives some type of diction to have a conversation, but again I think it's harmful to the individual.
It's kinda like taking a career aptitude test, and using that as guidelines for your life.
I will admit seeing people in this thread using their result as a determinant of who they are makes me sad.
I don't really know how else to vocalize this concern, but I hope at least someone understands.
>>24156473
As an INTP whos been dating an ENTJ for almost 2 years now, I can see this.
Im more of a small detailed, in-my-head planner type, but never doing anything.
My gf is more of the big details planner/do-er
Everybody who tests as a sensor should be killed. The world would instantly become a much better place.
>>24156343
I don't know why you'd say that. What makes me sound retarded and insufferable?
>>24156538
pls respond originale commant >>24156085
>>24156378
ENFPs are my favorite type! You guys are sooooo much fun!
>>24156472
INFJs' picture should be John from the So Cash pasta
>>24156569
they should just be never in a position where they need to take big decisions
robots are pretty expensive
>>24156551
>It's one more constraint people will put in there head. One more nagging impulse telling them to act a certain way.
Au contraire. Society usually drills you to do things a certain way. Especially for intuitive types that's ways that are all but natural for them (sensors are said to make out 70% of the population). By understanding how your brain prefers to perceive and handle information, you can break free from what was literally drilled into your brain and grow as a person by focusing on what you prefer, what is natural for you.
The theory/framework is a good one. It's up to people to make use of it as they see fit. If they make use of it in a "bad" way, it's not the theory's fault.
>>24156608
They also alienate everybody who's actually a human being, though. At best they should be segregated and made to work in camps.
>>24156595
I know not what I do!
It seems to work though.
>>24156551
It's understanding that nothing is objective even that idea within itself.
It's a paradox, so saying "It's my subjective point of view" doesn't cut it.
Do what you feel because it's justified, but understand you can't justify it
>think of multiple inefficient ways to handle a simple problem
>never implement any of them
>don't get money for thinking
God damn if I haven't thought up dozens of useless ways to store image data.
>>24156085
Most people have taken the test at one point in time so you can bring it up and they might answer.
I'm attractive/charismatic/confident enough that they will feel like they're the awkward one if they don't know what I'm talking about.
>>24152838
>>24154621
>>24155908
Fellow ISTJs! Enjoying mediocrity?
I get INTJ from time to time, this ever happen to you?
>>24156689
Well it's not very popular around here
>>24156562
Seems about right. Be careful with ENTJs, they tend to "trade up."
>>24156645
Let me guess, you're an NTP
>>24156714
You sure?
I'm in university so maybe that's it.
An ENTJ went around the floor and got everyone's type so that was pretty useful for me.
>>24149434
INTP here, apparently its meant to be a curse, i find it "enjoyable" for a lack of better words
>>24156607
INFJs are the exact opposite of John.
Or was that your point?
>>24156734
Of course.
>>24156763
I do too. My constant exposure to people complaining about being bored and lonely made me realize at a young age that I was lucky.
>>24156761
Yeah at least not here in shitty villages
>>24156803
INFJs are basically introverted Chads
>>24156810
What country?
(domo arigato mr. roboto)
Who /ISFP/ here?
>>24156810
An INTP in a setting like that won't thrive; I'm sorry, bro.
Have you looked into exploring spirituality? Intuitively understanding the logic of it gives you strong presence among people that can't be denied. In a small setting like that, you could really start changing your environment to fit your mold better.
Am I the only ESTP in this thread?
>>24156713
Eh I know INTJ is supposedly master race, the majority of them are arrogant as fuck though. I can't believe a letter difference really matters, I'm ISTJ but apparently having an S over an N makes all the difference, I mean shit we have all the same letters except the second one so we can't really be that far apart.
>>24156607
John strikes me as a stereotypical sensor.
>>24156835
How?
(thanks mr. robot)
>>24156636
I love that response!
Tell me some cool stuff you do! Got any stories?!
>>24156871
It makes all the difference. Si/Ne vs. Ni/Se couldn't be more different.
>>24156867
I have an ESTP best friend. Really cool guys, you guys always do fun stuff and have good experiences to share.
>>24156867
probably
do you genuinely feel attachment to this board or do you just like messing with people?
>>24156871
INTJs are really shitty actually.
I'm an INTP and my older brother is an INTJ. He always trashes on me for doing stuff he doesn't do because it doesn't fit his worldview.
I love him, but fuck dude...you're not always right...
>>24156974
Messing with people probably.
ESTPs are always starting shit haha
>>24156977
>He always trashes on me for doing stuff he doesn't do because it doesn't fit his worldview.
Like what?
>>24156977
Good luck, once Ni/Fi has decided that something is right, it will remain "right" in 99% of the cases.
>>24149434
INTP ENTP ISTP are all REAL NIGGAS
so how do you be INFP without getting keked
i want a GF but I don't want her to kek me cause I'm socially submissive
>>24157018
Like listening to a band he doesn't like, or discussing interest like literature and philosophy with my friends.
I'm in college, dude fuck. It's not even like I'm being edgy; we all have a genuine interest in the subjects we're talking about.
>>24156842
quebec, canada
>>24156846
i figured out not long ago that my incredible lack of will was because i never had a father figure, not necessarily because of the lazy intp meme, living with a single mother and 3 sisters
in the city or in a shitty village nothing drives me, but im sure a wife would, and to be a complete man I think I like the tranquility of the countryside better, I have plans for my family-to-be
And if you mean theology, occult and all that stuff, yes,
>>24157021
Yep, I remember telling him the location of somewhere on a map and he said I was wrong.
I had the map in my hand, and showed him exactly where it was and that I was right.
I was wrong.
>>24156871
>S for sensing(observing) N for intuition(imagination
So yeah, I don't think it's a stretch for some people to use both
>>24157086
Yeah that's just immature, unless you're being annoyingly loud or something.
>>24157134
*meant immature of your older brother
>>24157100
I think the only father figure an INTP will accept is an INTP.
>>24156977
Well, that's a bit weird then. If there's irrefutable evidence that you're wrong the INTJ would usually accept that. Maybe he's just a bit immature?
>>24157134
Haha, yeah at first glance I was kinda confused.
He's gotten better about it now.
It doesn't help that he's also my older brother.
Not much room for me to have authority.
>>24152681
same lol
>>24157220
Meant to quote >>24157112 desu
>>24152681
What are those autism numbers before your type and where can I take the test?
>>24156835
>tfw young chad
>chased and kissed by girls in elementary school
>friends with everyone
>parents divorce
>hit teenage years and hit major depression
>do literally nothing for a decade and become a self imposed hermit (neet for years after high school of course)
Feels bad man. I just want to contribute to society and have someone to cuddle with at night, but I'm just a fucking wreck of a person. Fuck.
>>24150316
you got it backwards yo. INTPs reject social advances, not vice versa
>>24157231
>>24157220
He's very proud, and I'm his younger brother, so naturally him being wrong doesn't sit too well.
>>24155939
It could also be they are low on the scale, so can jump between feeling and thinking
(i am 90% logical according to the test and i agree with what you are saying about this person, i feel almost insulted in a way by what they are using as "logic", i deal with stuff similar everyday with my emotional friends)
>>24157289
I know an INTP who is also a schizoid, and, although he's uncomfortable with real intimacy, he views people as great entertainment and good connections for substances. You're just a try hard if you stand in the corner at parties only so you can tell people to fuck off when they approach you.
>>24156806
I know right. Their problems are so simple, i usually solve them in second after talking to them. its very disappointing
INTJ/INTP with 1% in judging here, so I guess I'm autistic either way. Great.
>>24152138
>tfw INTP
>tfw I relate to this guy
>tfw it's a good feel
>>24157545
INTPs are schizoids, INTJs are autists
