You often hear normalfags coming here telling us to "just lift" and how this miraculously will make our lives better. While they do have a point that if we suddenly would wake up one day looking like Arnold, it certainly would make our lives better. The problem is that it's impossible for us to make that journey for the same reasons we're ugly miserable losers today.
Lifting is 99% genetics. Don't let anyone tell you different because this is a cold, hard fact. Ask yourself, have you ever seen a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face? No, of course you haven't. Your success in adding muscle to your body is related to the same genetics that decide whether you will have a weak jawline with an andronymous face or a strong jawline with a masculine face, your testosterone levels. There's a reason Chad can do a brosplit and party 3 times a week and still pack on more muscle than Eugene keeping a perfect diet and a serious program.
If you're a low-test betamale like most if not all robots are, lifting won't do anything for you. You will add a minimal amount of muscle and after years in the gym you will maybe have made the same progress a teenage Chad made in 1 month.
dur it's all genetics
if you suck at genetics go for similiar specimen
if lifting solves your 'problems' you didn't really have any to begin with.
>>24136833
Oh ye I would if we didn't live in a polygamous hook-up culture where all women can strike above because men have higher sex-drive and Chad needs a harem. A girl with shitty genetics will still get picked by some average guy.
This is why historically 90% of men didn't reproduce but almost 100% of women did.
>>24136867
If you're going to pull numbers out of your ass at least make them plausible. It's not the top 20% of men who get to reproduce, it's the bottom 20% that doesn't There's no lack of betas with wives and kids, they lead unhappy lives but they're by no means virgin basement dwellers.
>>24137293
You're right, 90% was TOO LOW of a number. In fact 17 women reproduced for every man in prehistoric society, ie the times before marriage was invented.
http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/17-to-1-reproductive-success
The reason betas still reproduce is because the remains of monogamous marriage culture still exists and women are pressured to marry a man and form a family at some point, meaning she will slut around for her best years and later settle with a beta. This is slowly disappearing though as women make more and more money and pologamy becomes more and more accepted. Soon women will entirely stop marrying betas and just fuck Chads until they're old and washed up and then just die alone when Chad no longer wants to fuck her.
>>24136806
meh you're kind of right. I guess I have good aesthetic genetics and i gain muscle pretty fast without much effort but I'm pretty sure if diagnosed, I'd be pretty deep in the autism spectrum. So yeah I guess having a normal brain that is able to socialize helps a lot too, probably more than the aesthetics you are talking about.
>>24137378
how odd that the women making money are usually less of a whore than the useless leeches whose only value is the axewound between their legs
You think you're going to lift and then everything will be OK?
>350lbs
>crash diet
>lose 150lbs in six months
>start lifting
>bodyfat under 20%
>newbie gains
>Aeropostale quarter zip pullover
>Old Navy jeans
>look like a normie, robots don't accept me
>still a robot, normies don't accept me
>what did I do this for?
>>24137448
If you're good looking you can't be a robot but then again if you're good looking you will get a gf by just existing.
>have you ever seen a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face
Of course I have you fucking retard
>>24137448
Welcome to cyborg life, a limbo with no happiness and no company.
Genetics can be overcome with steroids
every single person on this board has the ability to get them if they actually try instead of whining about it.
If you're worried about having kids some day then you dont belong on this board.
All in all, if you're gonna make excuses about poor genetics and not go for steroids then you're lifting for the wrong reasons.
Meeting self set goals> Health> being able to fit in nice clothes> dog shit> Impressing women with your new aesthetic
>>24137460
Give me an example.
>>24137448
>looking good, feeling better, and being stronger isn't enough
When you finally do get the validation you crave from other people, it still won't be enough.
>>24137457
Being a robot isn't just aesthetics, it's in your heart.
>>24136806
>If you're a low-test betamale like most if not all robots are, lifting won't do anything for you. You will add a minimal amount of muscle and after years in the gym you will maybe have made the same progress a teenage Chad made in 1 month.
>WAAAH WAAH I DONT LOOK LIKE ARNIE AFTER 3 MONTHS OF LIFTING
the main point is to be active. it doesnt matter if you lift or play a sport on a regular basis. Exercise will make you feel better, period.
so stop being a faggot and hit the gym at least 3 times a week.
>>24137486
In your heart, you're a script that bans people for shitty low-effort posts?
>>24137485
I like robot life and robot culture. Those are my people.
>>24136806
The odds of you not being able to gain any muscle are miniscule, and if that's the case it's usually due to low test, which you can get a prescription for.
>lifting is 99 percent genetics
no it's more dependant on how active you were as a kid. If you never exercised and sat inside all day, you're going to have a worse physique than a kid who played sports a lot and went outside. Nutrition is the second most important thinf, because depending on what you eat and how much, calories will determine how big or small you get. Last is effort, if you're not pushing yourself, you're not going to get anywhere.
>>24137497
No it won't. I've hit the gym for 3 times a week and been playing football 2 times a week for a year now. I don't feel better and I'm still a depressed loser also my body is basically the same as when I started despite a proper diet.
>>24137486
If you're good looking you will get social validation and have a good social status by default. Being a robot is about having low social value, not being a special snowflake in your heart that shit goes on tumblr.
>>24137531
You will gain muscle but it's extremely slow and you will never become really fit without steroids. Basically you're in the same seat as a woman.
Again, you can't give me a single example of a buff guy with a weak jaw and feminine face. Out of the millions of people posting pictures of their bodies online and you can't find a single one.
>>24137481
stop going on sluthate and obsessing over facial features.
>>24137536
>No it won't. I've hit the gym for 3 times a week and been playing football 2 times a week for a year now. I don't feel better and I'm still a depressed loser also my body is basically the same as when I started despite a proper diet.
>I don't feel better
Yes you do.
>>24136806
roids are the answer m8
>>24136806
kek,
face
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face aesthetics is the most important factor
>>24137579
He has a masculine jawline and headshape, it's just his ugly face making him look beta. Try again.
I can't even lift because of my scoliosis
>>24137577
>You will never become really fit without steroids
you can become fitter than 90% of Americans just by making a serious effort to actually exercise in the gym more than 3 days a week
>buff guy with "weak jawc and "feminine face"
see post below, the dude has a baby face
>>24137579
>>24137645
Fucking abominations, they would actually look better if they were skinny/lean
>>24137652
>his ugly face is making him look beta
you do realize that your jawline becomes more visible as your bodyfat decreases, right? he has a baby face
>>24137480
Aren't steroids unhealthy and dangerous and expensive?
>>24136806
>Lifting is 99% genetics
hahahahahahahahahahahaha oh fuck
Enjoy mediocrity
>>24136833
>If you're a low-test betamale like most if not all robots are, lifting won't do anything for you.
You forget some benefits that make it worth it:
1. More test build up during lifting/cardio means better/more frequent faps
2. Mind fog will be gone for some hours
3. You strengthen your bones and posture = longer painless periods on your pc
4. More energy = which will result in more shitposting
Lifting and cardio is not a meme
>>24137754
There isn't a single bodybuilder or a single athlete without a chiseled jawline and a masculine face.
>>24137756
Ye I agree and I do enjoy lifting but it will never do anything for me and I will never grow noticeably. I eat around 2700-2800 calories a day and 130-150 proteins a day and I made basically no growth after a year of lifting.
>>24137722
you can be on test year round for 700 aud at outrageous australian prices, not that expensive.
And not that unhealthy and dangerous if its just testosterone. What is unhealthy is a life time of not being desired by women.
>>24137812
almost like they all take exogenous testosterone.
the growth you expect from your natty training is the speed you will get from roids. The sad truth.
>>24137812
>I eat around 2700-2800 calories a day
ever day?
>I made basically no growth after a year of lifting
did your lifts increase?
>>24137816
my doctor said my t levels (low 200s) were fine even though they obviously weren't and won't give me the injections. i would have to buy the vials from shady online sellers. i've also read that in some people the body rejects the injection and stop producing testosterone completely. sounds scary
>>24137863
Yes everyday and my lifts barely increased and the most was in the first months. I still lift less than most girls. I've been stuck on a 50kg bench for 7 months now.
>>24137922
>I've been stuck on a 50kg bench for 7 months now.
you're doing it wrong then. post your routine
>>24137909
you stop producing because you are getting 3x your natty amount through the needle. You dont need to be producing.
Its not scary, I dont even notice my small balls. And if I come off (I just cruise at a low dose most of the year) they will return to full size and my natural production will start again.
I took the plunge to buy them online and it was the best decision ever.
Your body wont reject it, you're physically placing it into your muscle and bloodstream.
>>24137922
>50kg bench for 7 months now.
How tall are you, im 5 7 and I bench 62kg for reps. Also do you do all 5 big lifts? I feel like my bench only increases when my ohp does.
You definitely need linear progression to force your body to adapt, hence build muscle.
Maybe your sleep time is too low?
>>24137967
Stronglifts 5x5 + pull-ups and tricep work
>>24137976
It's my testosterone, I have the most beta face you can imagine and my jawline is a joke. No guy like me can become fit.
>>24137973
my problem is read horror stories about people who stopped taking it but their bodies didn't restart natural production.
>>24138004
Betaface here, I went to a gym once and couldn't lift the bar with the smallest weights
Embarassing 2bh
>>24137448
Man, this EXACTLY happened to me 4 years ago.
>what did I do this for?
I asked myself for a few months, after I decided to become the old me.
Best idea in my life, you should try it bro
>>24138005
It wont happen to you. Take clomiphene you'll be fine. Or don't, you will also be fine.
Do you want women to squeeze your biceps flirtatiously or do you want to masturbate alone forever? your call
>>24138024
>I went to a gym once and couldn't lift the bar with the smallest weights
Nothing wrong with that.
>>24137536
good looking = attractive face
women prefer a 8/10 with a shit body than a ripped and fit 4/10
>>24136806
>Ask yourself, have you ever seen a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face? No, of course you haven't.
Jeff Seid
>>24138790
b8, I hate on jeff too, but he has a well defined maxilla
>>24136806
Come on OP. There is always creatin and Testo Boosters, Just invest a couple of $'s and you'll be fucking Chads girl in no time..
Considering my story, I used to be weak and pale and lacked social experience. So something clicked in me and I wanted to lift.
It's really all about if you want to lift, then your confidence will improve when you start looking at your body and admiring it.
But I really don't know, because my story in trying to make it started with doing sports and reading literature and staying more diligent than before, but the main thing must be that you WANT to do it, that you want to make somewhere in life.
Crying for a lifeboat in your own puddle of piss is no bueno
>>24137378
The end is where you are wrong
Even when they are old they can still slut around, go to any retirement home or church and you'll find older washed up women still whoring around.
muscles are icing on the cake if youre already attractive but if youre ugly its like icing on shit theres really no point in lifting if you arent already attractive. do something more productive like learning another language
>>24139153
also right now I'm snapping and talking to a cute brown turkish girl who commented well on my legs so there is reward in keeping up yourself.
But as I say again, you're not going anywhere if you don't want to go anywhere. I wanted to stop being a frail pushover. I have improved and am in a better situation than I was before. The thing is to just do it.
>>24137448
>Aeropostale
>Old Navy
This is why normies won't accept you.
>>24138790
jeff is a roided faggot, anyone can take roids and bulk up
>>24136806
>have you ever seen a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face?
there's an infographic going around with about 5-6 of those guys on it. it was called ">lifting.jpg" or something
>>24137457
neither of those statements are true
>>24137485
even worse, you might get validation and realize you don't like it (since people talking to me triggers my autism, but when people ignored me I was happy because I didn't have to talk to them)
>>24139236
Thats what normies wear though
>>24137579
>implying George isn't an aesthetic god
when manlets lift it just makes girls laugh
>>24139236
normie middle schoolers and high schoolers where that shit
I know this isn't /fit/ but I'm curious if anyone knows a retail gym that actually has barbells and/or a squat rack so that I can actually practice deadlifts.
I don't want to pay fucking $50 a month to go to some elite weightlifting athletic training center but I also don't want to end up in fucking Planet Fitness where you get in trouble for showing signs of moderate exertion.
>>24137645
None of them look natural, you're only making OP's point.
Serious question; is OP an imbecile?
>>24139835
Where do you live? Every city usually has at least one gym with an owner that actually lifts so he knows what people will want in his gym.
>>24137480
Even on test you still need to train. Test won't lift weights for you. And genetics determines how many muscle fibers you have, not how big your muscles can get lifting for hypertrophy.
>>24139236
Maybe hes hispanic
>>24139835
>>24140120
Most local gyms are far cheaper too. There's a place where I live that's fifteen bucks a month for membership and they also cut the price of boxing lessons if you join to eight bucks per. These mega multinational gyms might have the newest equipment and whatnot but that's probably the only nice thing about em.
>>24140414
it's funny seeing 30+ year old fat manlet spics in Aeropostale clothing. literally what are they thinking
>>24140498
Its their culture shitlord!
>>24140498
They wear them I'm my country because fake Aeropostale / Abercrombie / Hollister is cheap.
OP's just a dumb cunt who can't cut properly. Probably only lifted for a few months before giving up like a whiny bitch
People like him will make any excuse not to do anything worthwhile.
>>24137812
>There isn't a single bodybuilder or a single athlete without a chiseled jawline and a masculine face.
That's because of their low bodyfats, you mong
When I cut down to 6% bodyfat, I had a chiseled jawline too and my face is round as fuck at 15% bodyfat
>>24136806
It's not all genetics, but you will hit a ceiling if your genetics aren't the best. You can still get some mass and tone, but don't expect 20+' arms unless you put in 3 hours a day 5 days a week
>>24140700
>lifting for 3 hours per day
lmao, end your life, clueless mong
>>24137448
Been there in 2012, the last time i tried to fit in, living almost totally isolated now. I still lift but every delusion of ever being part of society is gone now.
top kek to whoever thinks gainz can only be made by a select few. eat above maintenance, get off the computer for 1.5 hours a day, and man the fuck up. go to /fit/ and read the sticky. three years ago I was a 6'1" 245lb fatass. turned into a hungry skelly by crash dieting to 165. Now I'm 210 with a lot of solid muscle on me. Learning about weight lifting and eating right changed my life. it can change yours too.
feelsgoodman.jpg
>>24137608
Not that anon but really exsercise doesn't do shit for my depression.
I've felt more closer to killing myself now than any other point in my life. I still try to go to the gym 3 times a week for some weird hope that somehow in due time it'll fix something. It's been 5 months now, nothing's changed.
>>24140635
He shouldve seen at least a very slight gain after a couple months. He stopped because he didnt. Otherwise you end up like that other anon in this thread that wasted 7 months with nogainz. Cut the losses somewhere for fucks sake.
>>24140793
What if my maintenance costs are above what i can eat in a day? Always hungry, always eat and eat, 125lbs. Whats the best foods for stretching a stomach?
>>24137812
>>24137756
>>24138004
Same boat here, lifted really hard and did everything correctly and no progress. Was thinking about steroids, but don't want to fuck my body up.
I'm trying quitting porn based on a hunch that it will help with my T levels. The scientific literature hasn't evaluated whether it can have a role, but there is some reason to think so IMO.
>>24137645
My roid senses are tingling
>>24140793
Shut up fatso, no one cares about your journey from fat fuck to count who hopes everyone forgets he used to be a fat fuck
>>24140888
No gainers are incredibly rare. He probably didn't lift hard/often enough, eat enough or his form/ROM was poor
>>24140941
Height, weight and bodyfat before and after lifting? Routine? What was your diet like?
OP is right. been taking anabolics and lifting 4-6x a week and barely making any progress.
also 5'7 FMSU SENPAI
>>24136806
>have you ever seen a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face?
Quiet a few times yes.
>>24140935
Eat peanuts.
>>24141003
idk the numbers but
bicep curls 5kg x50 every day
eating mostly krispy kremes
>>24141054
hahah, epic!!
And to think I was actually going to try and help you
>>24137531
wait so if i didn't do much exercise as a kid i'm fucked for life?
I worry about being too weak to workout. Assuming i cant lift just the bare bar, i would be stuck with those little 5lb dumbells. I dont believe anyone has built a single fiber of muscle off of such a small weight. Would cost more energy to lift it than what strain it can give back to you.
>>24137645
guy in the upper left corner is my biggest nightmare. look at those hips. where are his lats?
>>24140000
nice quads
>>24141113
sorry man, i've just heard it all before. no one will accept its just hard gains/low t, even when they can't think of anything else to blame it on after a long conversation. just-world fallacy.
>>24141238
Go see your doc and get your T levels checked then.
What's your libido like? Do you have trouble getting erections? How much bodyhair have you got?
>lose weight, get a healthy body weight
>still miserable sack of shit loser
>put on muscle
>still miserable sack of shit
>make friends, start going out
>hate it and still miserable
I think it's something in our thinking robots that make us the way we are.
>>24141282
Yeah various symptoms of low T or at least something very amiss.
>Very little hair
>Look like teenager at 26
>No interest in social interactions
>Anxious
>almost no cum when I ejaculate
>no sense of sexual jealousy, literally have let friends kek me cause I don't care
But I do have a sex drive.
Been to the dr before and didn't get prescribed anything, my test was like 10% too high for TRT. Anyway where I am atm, I figure I might be able to fix it naturally by quitting porn and getting a life. Then again I could just be clinging to hope stupidly. I've done stupid amounts of research.
>>24136806
Hahah thats not true bro. I used to be a skinny guy who pulled his dick all day and I felt weak and inferior to other guys. Then I started lifting 4 times a week and grew big within the year. I no longer felt the need to fap so much and got higher testosteron levels which means my voice dropped and became more manly. Before I felt invisible and inferior, now guys make place when I pass them and most wimp out when I get into an argument. I get four times more attention from girls and people are treating me with more respect now. I can assure you mate, Ive been on both ends of the story.
>>24141466
you're not a manlet though
I'm so weak I can barely do 10 pushups
Me at the gym would be prime comedy material
>>24141436
Damn, go back to your doc, get another test done and if he refuses you again, say you feel your quality of life is impacted by your low test. Tell him you feel tired all the time, apathetic, tell him your sex life is affected ( :^) ) and some other shit
Be convincing and act sad, but be a little forceful too. He'll probably prescribe you Test
>>24141770
Was thinking about it, but think I'll try the natural approach first, give it at least 6 months. Would much much prefer to not depend on external test.
Just lift for the same reason i do because you hate yourselfand other people and want to be able to look down on them
>>24141054
You lift the heaviest weight you can lift eight times and no more, no less, and you do that three times. 50 reps is jacking off.
I've been lifting pretty casually for 2 years now.
Still pretty DYEL but whatever
>>24141283
Yes. Aspergers / autists prefer similar company.
>>24142128
This is pretty ideal though tbqh.
>tfw OP is right
>tfw I fell for the /fit/ meme and wasted almost 2 years lifting and eating right
>Would squat, deadlift and bench. Stress myself every gym day to succeed
>Still weak as fuck while Chad ThunderSquat can power out 2plate bench on his first day in the gym
It's a roll of the dice. It's all life is
>>24142195
Your routine is shit and you never tried
>>24142240
>Someone succeeds
>Everyone plays it up as a result anyone can achieve
>Someone fails
>"oh shit, not everyone makes it, better pretend failure doesn't really happen"
Normals everyone!
>>24141679
One of my good bros would be considered as a manlet, he started out lifting with me and had basically the same effects.
>>24142128
Looking good m8 how tall are you?
>>24137448
Tfw pull a Longbottom and go from ugly freak with no social skills to an incredibly attractive guy with no social skills. I'm so good looking that I'm more unapproachable than ever
>>24142272
I posted my dope body in this thread if you cant hit 2pl8s in 2 years its because your routine is utter shit probably some garb tier 3 day split like 300 45 minute sessions in 2 yrs absolute dick.
>>24142320
6'2
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>>24142128
>this dyel gets any attention
>>24141990
>absolute beast mode juggernaut gets ignored
The advice to lift is not so much about getting ripped like a bodybuilder. It's aim is to teach you a little discipline. You've spend your life having zero self-discipline, lifting will teach you to do certain excersises at a certain day of the week and to pay attention to what you eat and stop shoving shit food in yourself. It makes you think about what's good for you. And this spreads though other areas in your life.
>muh genetics
you serious?
>>24142434
That "beast mode juggernaut" (who is probably you) doesn't look nearly as good as the other guy.
>>24142434
lrn2 focus your photos if you want anyone to pay attention
>>24142371
>Dope body
Thanks Chad, nobody cares. Post your shit on /fit/ where you can get ripped apart by gymrats.
Lifting isn't even necessary. I don't lift at all, in fact Im a smoker, Im thin, and Im fairly out of shape. But my girlfriend is a solid 10 out of 10. Im not just lucky either, my last 3 girlfriends have been at least 8's, i dont have some secret formula, I suppose Im pretty charming, but that isnt effort thats just me honestly being myself. I think for some guys getting 10 out of 10s just isnt in the cards, I think ones attractiveness really just cant be fixed by lifting or even a wealth or status update. It takes a totally redesigning of an individual, and the person who just has it naturally is always going to outshine the person who developed it later in life. My father is a chad, and my mother is a stacy bordering on sociopathic. (extreme charm, cut-throat drive, etc.) And so I grew up with everything in place. Im lucky, thats all.
>>24142553
That's great buddy.
Now get the fuck out.
>>24142588
I dont think you sad sacks get to just come in, and take over a board ive enjoyed.
>>24142614
This is your last warning.
>>24142497
Im way bigger just cant photograph well. Curved edges
>>24142647
i didnt know steroids give you parkinsons
>>24136806
No one said you had to look like Arnold you complete retard. Your whole post is now invalid so I won't be reading it.
>>24142614
We do what we want
>>24142647
I said he looks better, not bigger.
>>24136806
I have weak jaw, feminine features and lifting still helped me a ton. If you want to keep making excuses though, then I'l just leave you to that.
>>24142461
this guy gets it teeeeee beeeeeee hAYtch
>>24142666
Thanks for the compliment all natty tho
Bigger= better
>>24142461
>Put discipline in
>Get no gains out
Didn't teach me shit tbqhwuf
>>24137448
What was your crash diet. Please tell me, I want to lose that much in six months
>>24142128
>chinlet
>>24143090
Coffee coffee coffee
In the morning, a small sugarless bread roll with a cheese slice.
In the evening, a salad, greens and vinegar only.
Water water water.
Eat with a teaspoon
Put hot sauce on everything
Practice the three d's: delay eating as long as you can, distract yourself with something else, decide if you want to eat or be fat.
Love Splenda
Never hide your eating. If you can't eat something in front of your friends, don't eat.
Chew each bite 30 times. Count them.
Any meal you are given, throw half of it in the garbage immediately. Eat less than half of what's left.
If you must taste food, chew it and spit it out.
Weigh yourself every day
Basically give yourself anorexia, and hope you can psychologically pull yourself out of it when you reach your goal weight
>>24143090
Oh, I forgot. Inb4:
>B-BUT Y-YOU C-CAN D-DIE F-FROM T-THIS
a) yes, you can
b) bariatric surgery patients can do it, so can you.
>>24143204
And take a multivitamin.
>>24143204
Absolute shit dont take advice from this loser reads like cosmo magazine.
>>24142434
it's because you're a manlet
>>24136806
>have you ever seen a a muscular guy without a chiseled jaw and a masculine face?
Jesus,just fuck off already with your anecdotal evidence
>>24143344
Yeah. Better to just kill yourself today, or go through the slow suicide of obesity, right?
ITT: externalization
>>24143392
kek look at his beta as fuck face
You've obviously never set foot in a gym, I've seen loads of buff guys with ugly faces and weak jaws. The reason they tend to have stronger jaws on average is because on average they have lower bf% so their faces are thinner and thus more defined. Most of you probably have pretty good jaws under that baby fat.
Yeah genetics is a HUGE part of it, and some dudes will get bigger easier than you, and probably look better, but why should you live life at the bottom when you could at least help yourself a little?
>>24143357
6'1 just like the other guy
Theres this extremely beta looking guy in my gym but hes extremely ripped
If you cant build any muscle, you dont bulk right. You probably wont be arnold but you can get more aesthetic.
Also, lifting increases your test, which will give you other benefits than just muscle growth
>>24143434
> dudes will get bigger easier than you
only manlets like myself gain muscle faster, this is a proven fact
why do you think you see so many muscular manlets? because it is literally easier to gain muscle than lanklets
>>24143393
No use DNP or intermittent fasting w cardio.why would you eat splenda and drink anything that isnt coffee or water legit reads like some girl shit diet
>>24143481
Not true, a 6'2" guy with high test and good genetics will put on muscles easier than a 5'8" guy with low test and shit genetics.
>>24143535
Yes, in a controlled setting like that. But that isnt the norm nor is it the average.
>>24136852
im huge and it didnt solve my social and women problems. Women are fucking all over me until they find out how autistic i am then its back to 5' prajeet
>>24143204
What if we are poor, instead of throwing the food out, can I save it for the next meal? Also, what if I don't drink coffee, can I just drink lots of water?
>>24143560
Yeah, indicating that not only manlets can put muscle on easily. It's a pretty crazy misconception actually, height has a lot less to do with muscle building than testosterone does.
>>24143530
>fuck up your shins running at 350lbs. Do some complicated meme diet.
Haha yeah, why wouldn't you do this??
Dumkoph, look in the mirror and decide if you deserve to eat. That's a fucking diet that isn't a meme.
>>24136806
Why not just try some fizzy lifting drinks?
>>24143585
Coffee is an appetite suppressant and it's mildly thermogenic. Learn to like it. As for the food, that's meals you're given. If you're at home, look at yourself in the mirror and weigh yourself, then take only the amount of food you think you deserve to eat. If you've got fat rolls, that will be a couple teaspoons of mom's casserole. Lettuce leaves dipped in vinegar and Splenda is fine too.
>>24143423
How is betaface fedined? The guy doesn't have a round face
>>24136806
Lifting is the ultimate robotic physical activity though. You don't have to talk to normies. The weights aren't going to let you down or betray you and not let you lift them because you're ugly. Maybe you're right, if you're born a low test skinny manlet, there's just a limit on what you can achieve but it's probably not as low as you think. Don't lift for girls it's not going to make your ugly face anymore attractive and it doesn't give you any social status. It's an enjoyable way to blow off steam and without it I'd probably have blown my brain out long ago
>>24143656
Im lower bf than you will ever be, chew 30 times and throw out halfyour plate is retarded. Eat bread is retarded. Eat low cal filling foodslike brocolli or tuna , swim or walk if youre 400 pounds. IF is always a good idea, tricks your circadian into wanting to eat only during an 8 hour period. No sugar at all. Multiple gallons of water a day.
>>24143940
>Im lower bf than you will ever be
kek. If your bodyfat is lower than mine you're training at a competitive level.
>>24143535
A properly propotioned 6'2, most guys around 6'2 tend to have a propotonally larger frame than manlets and average height people
Though taller than that are usually lanklets with frames smaller than people shorter than them
>>24144084
Youre 200 pounds with virtually no muscle at 20% im at 12-15% throughout the year
>tfw skinnyfat 6'2" with bitchtits and belly
>and 0 muscles
But thats wrong you fucking retard. I have an androgynous face and I'm built af, even without lifting.
>>24143481
bullshit. 5'7 manlet here and even with anabolic compounds i build slow. eat 200-250g protein a day too
>>24143764
Its not round, but its not very masculine either.
>>24144381
How much do you weigh? Just wondering
>>24141142
no, but you won't look as good as you could have
>>24136806
Absolute fucking bullshit on the chin part OP. I've seen exactly what you say doesn't exist, an athlete who lifts heavy as fuck but has almost NO chin to speak of.
