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>>24132444
>>24132444
Shit tier but already got a nice comfy job
>medicine
>living to work at a shit job with shit hours saving shit people who don't give a shit and end up suing you for bullshit
Have fun with that
>I'm not even on the listTheology
>>24132444
SHIT TIER English lit reporting in. Putting off several essays as we speak. Spending my night watching after effects tutorials and wondering if I picked the wrong major.
All kidding aside, I love my studies. I only ever wanted teach anyway, I think stories are really important.
where is music?
>>24132559
My nigger, I'm in the same boat. Secondary or primary?
>>24132559
Have fun dealing with screaming monkeys who couldn't give two shits about what you're trying to teach.
I'm a freshman. Been here for 7 weeks now and still have no friends, only 2 people I talk to. Roommate is throwing a party on Wednesday and since it's veteran's day the library is closed and I have nowhere to go. Midterms on Thursday and Friday. Pretty sure I'm going to fail my Friday one
>>24132533
>theology
>enjoy diddling kids in the ministry father
>>24132600
>>24132559
this. students don't give a fuck about literature and it's taught like shit in high school.
>>24132471
my nigga
what time/region are you studying?
>tfw music major
>tfw girls love it when you play music for them
God tier Physics.
>>24132663
>taught like shit
Till I get there, yeah.
>>24132533
How are you liking it?
>>24132764
>Till I get there, yeah.
I dunno bro, if you like teaching that's great. But I could always tell the difference between a teacher who's been there a few years and those that have been there 5+
>that absent look in their eye
>wondering where their life went so wrong
>not caring about your future any more, just wanting a decent evaluation so they can keep their jobs
Fuck, I'd understand wanting to become a university teacher. People who go to uni are generally there to learn and are interested. High school is just a cluster of people who are forced to go
>>24132705
will come in handy when you're homeless and need change for mcdonalds
>>24132764
good luck trying to get kids not to rote learn entire essays. Most teachers start off idealistic like you before realising that getting students to actually learn is too much effort.
>>24132444
>not good at math
>everything from god to low tier is off-limits to me
H-history master r-race...
>>24132705
I play music for girls too and I'm not wasting any tuition dollars on it, kek
>>24132692
>>24132471
Just a question because I'm legitimately interested.
Sometimes when I play a game, read a book, watch a TV show I occasionally become infatuated with a character who's pretty qt. Like, when I played Bioshock Infinite I crushed on Elizabeth for a few weeks after.
Do you guys ever crush on people from history? If so, who? I just feel I'd do it if I were learning about cool people from the past.
>>24132444
God tier is
Engineering, Medicine, Computer Science, Mathematics, Teaching
The rest are shit and useless.
>>24132841
>tfw history is my passion
>tfw chose the STEM jewish lie because muh job market
>tfw suffering when I realize I threw my passion away
>>24132807
It may be because I grew up in a wealthier area, but all the teachers that I had in high school that had been there for a while were actually better and more enthusiastic at their jobs. I think attitude and location have a lot to do with it though. My uncle's a History teacher and he loves it.
If I can somehow get back on at the high school I went too, that would make my life desu
>hurr durr le STEM cockjerk.
As a History major, fuck you. My cyborg ass is heading to law school. I took a programming class and the worst thing was the smell. I'd rather not work in that musk daily.
>>24132867
>God tier is
>Engineering,
>>24132444
>Ultimate wagekek degree
>God tier
>>24132444
>MFW STEM has taken over the world
>MFW STEM fags think they are the best
>MFW OP's picture was probably made by a STEM fag
>MFW Communication Major
>MFW I enjoy it
>MFW Probably gonna get something make at least 60k per year
Yeah I know it isn't STEM related major but STEM fags are cocky, it's just one big circle jerk of STEM fags.
>>24132898
>>24132870
>>24132841
>>24132471
The fuck, what's with all the history majors on r9k? Yearning for a simpler time?
>>24132855
I don't really have any crushes because most of the people I studied are men.
Bismarck is my favorite figure and Castlereagh is a close second. I studied 19th century European history mostly
>>24132870
It might not be too late to change. I went in studying bio then switched my second year
Why is business always listed as bad? I am doing a degree in business management followed by a masters in international banking and finance. The job prospects look good and wages are pretty high...
>>24132899
>Respectable career that is necessary to a functioning society and requires considerable practice and training and brings in a decent wage.
>Shit
I think you might just be fucking retarded. The second Mountain Boat engineering becomes big, you will all see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Dk0dyziXY
>>24132930
I don't know, but it would explain the strangeness of history teachers.
>>24132939
my problem is that I go to a tech school now
literally threw away my chance at a private liberal arts school because of the STEM lie
so the humanities here are a joke.
>>24132930
I've always excelled at it and I love it, so why not? I am enjoying it and making excellent grades. I would have dropped out if I tried to stomach a STEM field that I hated.
>>24132922
>"Yeah well I ACTUALLY ENJOY my degree"
That's nice, so do I. So we both get a point for that.
I get points for a better salary, more respectful position and more prosperous career though.
>Studying law
>All the women (70 percent in my cohort)in my courses are legit sociopaths.
>Want to kill myself everytime im given a group assignment
>medicine
>god tier
>Have to examine mens penises and stick your fingers up their anuses
lel
>>24132951
You're fine m8, especially if you get your masters. It's general business that's shit.
>>24132764
This is me.
I'd like to get a doctorate, but the job placement out of the top university in the nation is 50% for someone focusing on literature. It's not even worth it.
>>24132764
>How are you liking it?
Eh, just started a few months ago. I have no plans to ever graduate and will likely drop out before spring or something. It's a good pastime though.
Good thing uni is free here.
I wish I could go back to uni, back when life was easy and meeting people/making friends was a million times easier.
>>24132951
It's because most guys in r9k don't have the personality to succeed in business, so they need to become doctors, IT guys, science guys etc
Actually that's my fear. Finance/econ major here, really strong analytic skills, but im borderline autistic in my behavior so im fugged lel
>>24132953
>engineering
>Respectable career
Autistic STEMfags mocking highly trained musicians and artists who are drowning in bagina? id like to see that interaction in real life
>>24132951
Most people get biz degrees from shitty schools but the school you go to for business matters a lot because all the networking comes from on campus recruiting and shit moreso than other majors
>>24132951
Business is fine, but to me (and all the other people who always put business in shit) is that it's such a general, non-specific degree filled with normies who just do it for the sake of doing a degree.
Put the effort in? Do internships? Specialise in a type of business? Great, you'll do well.
Stopped attending CC midway. Here's to next semester!
Who /english/ here
Who /english but not going to teach so unemployable/?
Who /loving every minute of it/?
>>24133066
This.
Business really heavily depends on the university you learn at as it so heavily relies on connections/networking.
>>24133037
Shitposting on the internet
>Respectable career.
>>24133092
>networking
fuck....why did i go for finance as a robot...im a fucking idiot
WHY IS MACHINIST NEVER THERE?
WE MAKE LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
WE MAKE THE WORLD TURN.
Also, fuck engineers. you faggots can always design shit but never know how to actually make it and then pretend you do.
>>24133090
I'm going to teach in China, Japan, or Korea. Fuck The American school system.
>medicine
150k mean
>spend your days looking at peoples infected body parts
>maths phD
>250k starting
>any job you want
>>24133117
how could you design something without knowing how to make it lmao? are you a retard? I guess you are since you're a machinist.
>>24132600
Lol then the two that actually give a shit can listen while the other 28 fuck off in the back. I used to work in a prison, it doesn't break my heart any that most kids are irredeemable, I really don't care. I'll be getting paid to talk about books. Nice try though.
>>24133117
so you're the equivalent of a chinese factory monkey, I see
ooga booga, here is my design, meet tolerance okay? Can you understand me, machinist?
>>24133092
I find the word "networking" deeply revolting.
It sums up everything I hate about normies. It implies the only reason they are interacting with people is to benefit themselves, to get ahead of others. They don't care about you, just what you can do for them. Any personal interest they feign is purely superficial.
>>24133130
>spend your days looking at peoples infected body parts
not even medfag, but that doesn't sound bad. I assume the autism factor on here is fine so most people would be grossed out by some infected vagina or blood or something but eh, could be worse
>>24133117
>Also, fuck engineers.
Ay now settle down, anon.
There are engineers and then there are Engineers.
Engineers like me absolutely adore the shit you make because you understand what we need to make the plants work. We're the guys who generate power/produce the materials with the gear you create. We would suck your dick if it wasn't awkward.
Design engineers, they can suck my asshole. I get you. They are the retarded fucks who think putting a necessary valve 30 feet above the nearest flat surface is a good idea...
Computer science, I only have a passion for the programming, math, and theory aspect but my shit school is teaching me IT shit as well. I fucking hate it I just wanna do research and theories but instead I'm learning technical skills. I majored in this to avoid people and now it seems like I won't be able to do that at all.
Maybe it's because this is only bachelor's might go into Master's but I can't stand being in school anymore to be honest.
>>2413316they design it and then when you place them in front of a machine, manual or cnc, they dont know what the fuck to do. designing and manufacturing are 2 different animals.
fucking retard.
Shit tier, minor in great tier.
Planning on going into okay tier for post-grad
>>24133215
this was meant for you.
>>24133160
Art is worst tier though.
Your art degree will bring you nothing but debt.
Have fun hanging your overpriced paintings inside local businesses hoping someone will buy the set within a decade.
>>24133197
Networking works in a way that if the person is good at what they're doing the company and the person who refers them also gets benefit out of it also.
Of course it works like that hypothetically but mostly it's who can suck that dick best and talk the loudest. It sucks but that's how the game is played
>>24133201
Thank you. designers and drafters drive me up the fucking wall.
"Hey the machine simply cant do that. You need to figure out another way."
"lolno make the machine do it."
theyre retards with a god complex.
>>24133215
Oh you mean manufacture, little boy. that's why we have people like you to do the menial tasks for us, why would we waste our talents doing layman's tasks?
>Civil Eng that low
Do people confuse it with building science or some shit?
>>24133278
>do the menial tasks for us, why would we waste our talents
this bait is strong. 6/10 for getting a reply.
>>24132951
Business only has decent prospects if you have the right connections and went to top tier schools. Even then it's parasitical bullshit. I'd rather be producing than speculating.
>>24133278
There has been more than one design engineer who has fallen from the top of a plant, nigger. Don't piss off the Operators.
>>24133296
Civil engineers are the retards who couldn't hack it with actual engineering.
>med student
>required subject for semester is "interpersonal relationships and communication skills"
>occasionally need to submit some reflective journal about communication skills with patients
>even I can bull shit this and get 100% on it no problem
>semester nearly finished
>have to submit sort of 'resume' type thing
>need to show how I've managed to make friendships and close relationships over my years in med school and how they've improved me as an upcoming doctor
>literally made 0 friends in the total of 5 years I've been here
>our med cohort is so tightly knit, everyone is friends with each other/knows each other, except me
>cannot pass subject without doing this
>subject pass is REQUIRED to get hospital placements next year
>just over a year away from becoming a doctor and I honest to god might fall here
Been drinking myself stupid for the last few nights as this is getting closer and closer. Everyone else is happy, relaxed now that exams are over. I cried in my car for 2 hours last night knowing that I honestly might lose it all.
>>24133337
i swear the operators/machinists are the equivalent of the specialist mafia in the military.
they may not be the head honcho, but they can get him fucked over REAL quick.
>>24132971
What school?
Are there any other schools in your area?
>>24132444
Electrical engineering here, although i think you might not mean what i mean since its mostly Computer science related
>>24132576
Music counts as art
shit tier drama :((
International Relations
>>24133473
>the normiest of fucking normie degrees ever
>degree is based around talking to other people and performing in front of crowds
Why are you here?
>>24132489
whats ur major & whats ur job?
>>24132993
this, fucking this, a fucking power struggle every fucking time
>>24133356
that's a fuckton of bullshit anon, good luck with that
>>24132444
History...
>>24133511
Hollywood needs me ;-;
>>24133369
That because a good company knows who makes them the money. If a football team sucks you don't cut the players.
>>24133419
Dude, it's bait. EE is one of the better engineering degrees even.
>>24133356
Shit like this is why I know I absolutely do not belong in med school
>>24133356
>med student
>didn't think he'd be required to learn personal skills
there's a reason they have interviews for med school you autistic fuck
>>24133650
Meh idk how american degrees work. Eurofag here
>>24133702
In US right now engineering of most types except like Aerospace/Nuclear are employable almost anywhere with above average salary, with those 2 being ones you just need to make sure you live in the right place for.
There is a new meme on here to troll engineers (I guess EE in particular) by mocking them in comparison to medicine.
I mean, doctors are telling people to not go into medicine now and it just doesn't seem like it would be as fun to do unless you get to be Dr. House and take painkillers all day, but that's just me.
Honestly the concept of any hard science being above most engineering degrees in terms of employment or salary is almost laughable. Engineering is the practical stuff that employers actually want. Unless you want to do research for a Uni nobody cares about string theory.
>>24133796
it's not new he's being doing it for a while now
>>24132444
>Interior designer.
>Shit tier
Pretty good.
>>24132444
serious question: does med school require you to be ridiculuosly smart? or is it more about hard work and memorizing?
>>24133922
Absolutely memorizing
>>24132444
>Great tier + Shit tier
Does this even out to okay tier? Or does it add up to God tier? Science and Business, super employable, feels good man.
>>24133922
Not all, but mostly memorising. Compare a 3rd year med student exam with a 3rd year physics exam and see which looks harder
>>24133972
>Compare a 3rd year med student exam with a 3rd year physics exam and see which looks harder
Med, easily.
>>24132903
Its the funniest thing ever. These people never make it out of hospitals and their degree is god tier somehow.
>>24132980
>More respectful position
>Prosperous careeer.
As long as you are a wage slave your poisition is A) not respectable B) Not lucrative
Its a joke. Enjoy wasting your life in an office getting 0.000000001% of company profit while people who genuinely have pride in themselves start businesses
You are drone no matter what degree you did no matter what fucking childish benefits your company gives
This will be the case until you grow some balls and start a business, stop being a child.
>>24132922
Brah, I'm not STEM either, but communications is literally the lowest, most academically fraudulent degree outside of women's studies.
Aren't you ashamed of yourself? I just couldn't love myself if I studied something that stupid.
Also,many of you don't seem to realize that the vast majority of you will become increasingly replaceable regardless of field of study.
>>24133369
We're the guys who work the shit day in-day out. If what the design engineers put in it absolutely retarded, you can bet your ass that we will be upset.
Doubly so when said design engineer just shrugs and tells us 'deal with it'.
Wrong fucking move when they tell us that at the top of a twelve-story tower.
>>24134406
I like how half of 4chan seems to be made up of wealthy business owners that made it big, because most businesses are successful and lucrative and everything.
>>24134406
yeah let me just read my START A BUSINESS guide to START A BUSINESS I'll just START A BUSINESS and I'll have millions you fucking retard. 9 out of 10 businesses fail for a reason.
>>24134428
A guy sitting outside with a kiosk / Food Truck employing 1 or 2 guys > You
Deal with it, child.
>>24132855
Not him, but I have a crush onMarie Antoinette.
What do you tell someone with a Sociology degree when you meet them at work?A big mac and small fries please.
>>24134445
STEM majors are getting real butthurt here. Its not nice to be reminded is it?
You can't sit there and pretend you are better than anyone making a god damn salary, reporting to a superior some god damn schoolboy....when there are people who have done way better than you in life....
There are people who couldnt do Algebra one let alone STEM making way more money and with way more influence.
STEM arrogance is ridiculous when there are people making real money being actual grown ups controlling their own livelihoods.
>>24134586
>>24134586
It takes money to make money, they say.
How are you gonna start a business off NEETbux?
all these stem master race circlejerk niggers are nauseating. But organic chem is my favorite class right now. Currently cramming for a history exam in about 8 hours and an econ exam tomorrow. I dislike both of those classes. Wish I could only take courses relevant to my major
>>24134586
>when there are people who have done way better than you in life...
>making way more money and with way more influence.
These criteria you set up actually justifies STEM arrogance ty.
Enjoy running your kiosk business because my salary makes more than you : )
Dropped out last week desu
>>24134620
Shouldnt you be completing report for your manager you fucking loser? You wouldnt want to get land up without your 2% increase at your performance review next month.
>>24133024
I'm a law student and I suffer from existential dread every day. I have high grades in all courses but chances are I won't ever get an appropriate job since I'm borderline autistic as well. Am I really fucked or is there hope?
>Chemistry
>oral exam in 2 hours
>super anxious
>don't plan on going
>will get 0 points out of 10
>>24134627
Can someone say these words to you
> "You are fired?"
>"I need you to complete ABC for me"
>"Who is your boss?"
>"Who do you report to?"
Take this L mate.
>>24134653
I don't know what this has to do with anything.
Answer how you are gonna start a business without money, if you have no rich daddy to fall back on.
>>24134666
Just go, what's it on?
>>24134692
>Just go, what's it on?
Inorganic chemistry
It's not hard stuff but it will last an hour and I won't be able to handle that
>>24134412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdjPVJPqJZg
Free yourself from the misguidedness.
>tfw history major because I'm very passionate about it
>spend a long ass time working on my degree after many years at a community college because I took time off from school to work
>realize it's an economically worthless degree so I'm thinking of pulling a double major with history and polsci/government or public administration then apply for a state job and rake in those gubment bucks like my dad did with his English degree.
>all the while my childhood friend is making close to six figures out of college because he landed a software programming job
>mfw my younger brother is probably going to do the same
The only glimmer of hope I have is that I have a good chance of getting published in a respected philosophical journal next April. I'm thinking that if I build up enough cred as a published author it might somehow help me out in the long run.
>>24134692
Its got everything to do with his mate, Im calling out STEM arrogance.
A guy cant fucking come on here and tell me about his god damn salary man. Gtfoh desu senpai.
Here's how you start a business without money, get a job, save up start your business as a side hustle until it makes enough to cover your expenses where you quit your job and finally become a man.
There's no excuse for STEM majors. Need to stop making these threads and figure out ways to use their little salaries to own their themselves.
They arent gonna climb corporate ladders, they aren't gonna make it past middle management because most if not all of you are autists.
There's no autist STEM majors in executive committees. Grow some balls. Grow the fuck up
>>24134787
>man starts choking in a restaurant
>his wife shouts out "IS ANYONE HERE A BUSINESS OWNER?"
>everyone laughs
>the man dies
>I fuck his wife
I love being a doctor.
>>24134858
i laughed
you should be my doctor
>>24134873
all good. hit me up when you need that prostate checked ;)
>>24134787
>get a job
How are you gonna get a Job that pays well enough that you can save up to starting a business when you don't have any qualifications?
How is your business gonna make enough money to sustain yourself while also benefiting from it in a way that is more meaningful that working a job when you have no qualifications?
This is not about STEMshitters, but your own, extremely idiotic and unrealistic expectations.
>>24134891
I will if you promise to be gentle
>>24134858
People like us are necessary for an economy to exist and thrive.
While you stick two fingers up some guys hairy ass, people like me are keeping the economy oiled.
Try again.
>>24135032
>implying keeping the economy oiled is more important than keeping the ass oiled
are you even gay
>>24135032
If all the people who keep the economy oiled die of prostate cancer, what is gonna happen to the economy?
>>24134994
This isnt about degrees in general. Its about STEM. This is about STEM majors being extremely arrogant for people who are merely wage slaves.
How is a guy who doesnt even own his own life that arrogant?
You are never going to be more than middle managment regardless of your STEM degree and you think you are better than anybody else?
You are never going to be anything more than some dork working 24 hours a day getting cholera sticking your fingers up some single moms vagina....
Guy pissed me off saying his position is more respectable. He is a fucking wage slave his degree doesnt matter, he is a slave, he comes in at 8:00 am and leaves whenever the fucking manager says he should.
Guys who own their own businesses, making money for themselves are in respectable positions which can also be deemed lucrative, not some guy in an office on some capped salary.
>>24132444
>Great tier
feels good
>>24135143
You do know that small business owners generally work even more than "wageslaves", right?
>>24135082
Grown ups who arent out here wage slaving would invest capital into finding solutions to the issue of people dying of prostate cancer.
Capitalists would solve that problem. Some guy in a white coat would form apart of the solution process started and operated by business owners investing their capital, again in this you'd just be a wage slave. A cog.
Hold another L.
>>24135199
>I just read Atlas Shrugged
lmao
>not going to class today
>>24135245
8 am was cancelled
>>24135176
doesnt matter they own themselves; nobody can say this to the small business owner;
>"You are fired"
>"I need you to do ABC before end business
>"Who do you report to?
>"I need you to stay later, come in earlier we need to finish ABC "
Why? Because he isnt a child who gets told when he should come and go, what he needs to do with his own fucking life...like some slave.
>>24132444
Medecine is TOP-tier wagekekoldry. Good goy, slave your life away for the better good of humanity and you will be rewarded immensely.
>actually believing this ruse
Medicine is 100% shit tier. Medkeks are useful idiots, and that's all they'll ever be.
>>24132533
that's lower tier than women's studies
electrical engineer here
lmao at the list, 10/10 :P
>>24135483
yeah seriously
you will have to work like 25 years to pay off the enormous medical degree collage debt, and then like 25 more before you are elegable for retirement.
50 years of looking at people dying, no vacations, being around old sick people, and hating your life.
BUT HEY, maybe it will be worth it in the end. maybe you will only work yourself into MILD crazy status, and be able to last 5 years of sweet retirement without killing yourself.
>>24135483
This guy gets it. Good lad.
>>24135593
I dunno about you, but my med school education costs me 20 Europeshekels a semester.
>>24134748
You're just kidding, right? That reinforces my point.
>>24135619
In America, everything costs like a million dollars. But using public money to create people crucial to the health of a nation is socialism, so it's a no-no here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/1-million-mistake-becoming-a-doctor/
I can't believe people in this nation even bother with medschool anymore.
>>24132444
Great tier and okay tier with a minor in shit tier pham
>>24135724
how the fuck does this minor/major thing work? do you guys always study more than one subject? how? why? are there any limits as to what you can couple?
Where does a criminology/IT sec double degree fit into that chart?
Just finished the semester about 20 days ago.
Already got my results, 3 credits and a pass, just a first year.
EE engineering major here. Currently in sophomore year and I'm starting to feel like I might not be cut out for this shit but I refuse to become Comp Sci.
>>24135750
For what reason/s did you want to become an electrical engineer in the first place?
I'm barely making it. kinda odd that failing assignments and test doesn't even phase me anymore.
How to deal with internship?
Have to do it graduate but I hate it, you're supposed to make contacts for later but all I've done is show how bad I am.
Comp sci. Btw
>>24135750
It gets a whole lot harder before it gets manageable, anon. Third semester is when shit hits the fan.
>>24132951
business is useless. the only useful parts are accounting, finance, and econ. everything else is just common sense.
Going back there right now after a week long holiday
jdimsa
>>24135863
Thankfully my school let us do a research project instead
Have fun wageless wagekek
Posted this in the previous thread:
Starting university next year. Does anybody here have any advice on how not to fuck up either academically or socially? I'm thinking about joining some groups and making new friends.
I want to try and turn a new leaf.
>>24135906
>I want to try and turn a new leaf.
Don't do it OP, it is not worth it
Accept your role as a worthless fucking loser, trying will only fuck you up in the long run
>>24135906
Studying by yourself in any serious subject is very difficult. I never had any friends before uni or during the first year, but I forced myself to approach a group of people that I know are studying together and ask if I could study with them. It was either that or failing the education. They were skeptical of me at first but eventually got integrated pretty well. They're not really my friends and I don't hang out with them outside of studies, but they help a lot with the work. Bottom line is you really need to find a group to work in at least. Make yourself as presentable as possible (hygiene, clothing, facial expression etc) and approach people. They will never, ever approach you, this much I can promise. You have to take the initiative. That's my advice and the only thing I know.
>>24135802
I liked the idea of designing circuits and stepping through logical elements. I can handle my classes related to that fairly well but Circuit Theory kicked my ass and I need to take it again next semester.
>>24135899
And You're not a wagekek?
You are doing uni now but why would you study and than not work afterwards?
Psychology desu
Even though my future will most likely be shit, I'm enjoying my 4 day weekends now
>>24133166
Dubs confirm. If you go through with it, even seeing 2-3 people give a shit about what you do will make you feel better and all and the money's awesome as well.
Physics 3rd year
Completely bored of it, 2nd year killed off any passion I had left for the subject. I probably won't get a first with how little I care about studying now, but I am just counting the days. Only 137 left until I'm all done here.
Gonna find me a comfy computer job and chill out.
Anyone else /studyingasahobby/? I'm going to take up a place at the uni but it seems fun and I have the money for it so why not?
I laugh at OP's chart. I'm a paramedic/nurse and emergency medicine is the worst fucking field on the planet. If you do enter medicine, make yourself private practice or a fucking specialist.
I hate my job and my patients. In a given week, I treat maybe 3 legit complaints in a system where I'm abused by about 40 other people.
>tfw physics and philosophy undergrad at the best US public department for philosophy
>tfw chronic anxiety and bronchitis
I just want to get into a grad school. Any grad school.
>>24136737
But at least you have the approval of /r9k/ that counts for something r-right
>>24136756
Fuck /r9k/'s approval. I don't need it, I'm trying to give you niggers advice, this is coming from a former robot.
What's so bad about Electrical Engineering?
>>24136786
My parents have a friend who makes dental prosthetics (or w/e they're called) it's a cushy private business and he's rich as fuck. Maybe becoming a dentist is the answer?
>>24136797
Most serial killers are electrical engineers. This is not a coincidence.
>>24136797
Everything you learn is obsolete by the time you graduate.
Indians and Chinese on H1-B visas.
Can be done by those with physics degrees.
Baby boomers never retire for some reason.
>>24136804
Yeah a specialty. It is, absolutely.
>>24132444
> medicine
> not the only industry that's being automated before our eyes due to artificially high labor costs driven by artificial limits on doctoral graduates
Have fun competing with the surgery and anesthesia robot.
PSYCHOLOGY.
I've done enough computing to work in it professionally and I've done a year of Biomed to help within the healthcare industry.
>secure date with oneitis
>panicking, sleepless, not sure if went went ok or if she just thinks I'm a friend
>read all this stupid shit like you should makeout and even sleep with each other right away (neither happened)
>just staying in bed not doing any of my work/reading, thinking about her
>I'm always the one initiating conversation anyways
This sucks to be honest it's too stressful I want to bail but at the same time she is/was my oneitis and it's driving my fucking crazy.
I am going to graduate this 4 year course without ever getting a gf. I slept with one girl and instead of fixing my problems and making me more confident it's just made me more needy and depressed. She was uggo as well.
>>24135750
>Electrical Engineering engineering major here
What the hell does that look like?
>>24135906
Whatever you do, network along the way or you will be u n e m p l o y e d. Assuming you don't have a relative that can hand you a career.
Four hours of sleep
Started smoking again last week. Have to do homework in the two hours of other classes before it is due because I spent 4 hours last night doing another homework.
>>24136935
How do I network?
>>24132444
How about teacher training?subjects are English (2nd language) and biology
>>24135869
>>24135750
EE here, I'm glad I got my AS somewhere else. Holy shit university is truly the worst possible form of school. There's a few teachers who have been good (been only two semesters, catch-up and junior) but shit, there's just too many people. And that's with half the class dropping out sometimes.
>will probably get an A, two Bs, and a C, at worst
>this will literally be my worst semester ever
>normalfags talk about how they're putting in 30 hours a week to get B's
Really guys
medfag
It's the motherfucking Marine Corps Birthday tomorrow and I'm getting WASTED with my fellow Devils
>>24134418
>machinists are literally monkeys who throw people off high places when they have disagreements
You've honestly confirmed every stereotype I've heard of machinists. You're the niggers of the manufacturing process.
>>24137007
>bragging about IQ that is genetic
wew
>>24137225
M E N S A N
E
N
S
A
N
You guys should really try being smart sometimes. I mean you feel like shit but at least you're not dumb.
>>24137222
I'm EE and I've seen shit I immediately thought "there's no way 90% of the people involved didn't see this and think it was a bad idea."
>>24137304
Smart is genetics I cant change my genes
Pretty sure I fucked up majoring in finance desu senpai. Don't have the social skills for this shit. Ho the fuck does a friendless, socially anxious wreck like myself "network"?
im doing a law degree but i despise humans or at least the ones i meet from here on in but i dont want to be a lawyer. what are some viable options? i think id like to teach it later on and probably develop some school of thoughts relating to the philosophy of law.
>>24137337
force yourself to approach people, don't attempt to become their friend, just try to get them to study with you
>>24137350
Teach.
>>24137350
Philosophers are not employable. Looks for a government/public sector job (the municipality, the tax inspection or similar) it's mostly sitting and pushing papers alone in an office. You literally cannot work with law in the private sector without negotiation skills.
t. 4th year law student
>pre-veterinarian
>discover I have phobia of blood
>just end my fucking life f a m
>>24132444
>economics/business
>make $15/hr designing websites
JUST
I belong to the Pharmaceutical Chemistry master race, bow to me and my superior knowledge
>>24132898
Have you read pic related yet nigger sempai desu senpai
>>24136737
F U C K
I was hoping to use CNA/EMT/Paramedic/Nursing as an escape from my shithole walmart retail job
>>24132444
What the fuck is "womens studies"?
How backward can the USA get?
>>24132444
>math
>great tier
I wonder where people get this idea, by itself a math degree isn't worth a lot
>hw due today
>exam tomorrow
>presentation Wednesday
>assessment Thursday
>hw due Sunday
>no time to recuperate
>can barely sleep
I'm very sick right now but no classes allow unexcused absenses. My week is always so busy and if I had a job on my days off I'd be so exhausted. Can't wait to drop out this semester.
>>24138946
You learn about your oppresshun
>only possible jobs are social work, women's studies professor, McDonalds employee
Who /MIS/ here?
>>24132444
I've always gotten a kick out of mechanical engineers. I know far too many that have graduated, primped their portfolios and discover that their swimming in an over saturated field (and this is coming from someone who works in pharmaceuticals).
>>24132444
My school has the top petroleum engineering program in the nation. all these people fell for the engineering meme and now they can't find jobs because the market is a shit
me?
>finance master race ;)
What about nursing f a m s? Give me a r8. I figure it's a very steady job that Is only increasing in need with the baby boomers aging. Plus they make bank in Canada at least.
It's not even easy to get into a registered nurse program here. You niggers lied to me. Even the shitty schools need 83%+ to be considered. I got rejected from my #1 choice because you needed a 90+ to be considered and I only had an 88%.
>>24132444
STEM is a fucking meme. Biggest mistake of my life. Quit while you're ahead unless you have been building, programming or engineering as a hobby since you were young.
Its really a huge waste of time to join a cesspool of FOBs and asshats that will probably work in desk jobs any way
You might as well get an easier degree for the same job. Literally business and economics will get you farther than STEM.
Especially if yourean entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs invent invest and find the people to make their plans a reality. Those people are the STEM majors. Know what you're getting yourself into. If you aren't living a comfortable life now don't go into STEM. STEM success also is primarily determined by how much your parents think you're autistic and leave you alone. If your parents don't agree you bet you'll have a hard ass time.
>>24139208
>finance master race
>kek
>large animal veterinary
>paid to go to school because job market is so desperate
>guaranteed a job and a house as soon as I get through grad school
>all school paid for
Cons:
>required to live in shit redneck town for 5 years
>have to regularly stick my hands in cows assholes
>>24133117
fuck off christian bale
>>24138946
My uni was actually going to offer "Male studies" but as you could guess it got shut down by feminazi's before it ever took off
i guess that's equality for you
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/lecturers-in-worldfirst-male-studies-course-at-university-of-south-australia-under-scrutiny/story-fni6uo1m-1226800150348
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/mens-course-about-health-not-anti-feminism-unisa/story-e6frgcjx-1226800934189
http://lipmag.com/news/in-brief-male-studies-course-not-endorsed-by-the-university-of-south-australia/
>>24132444
Medicine, but doing like shit. I'm about to do a test but i didn't study 'cause i'm a lazy pice of shit.
How can fix my shit?.
Pharmacy
Like medicine but you get to say no to doctors and don't have to touch people.
Considering dropping out/switching course tbqfh friends
My course jsut isn't working, its very badly managed, nothing is organised properly, and half the people I started with have already transfered uni or switched already
>>24139258
THIS
>doing programming
>I will never be as good as those people that truly love it and keep up with the developments everyday
>>24135199
Prostate cancer is a joke! It's the most survivable.
Who /biotech/ here?
>>24132444
>dafuq, isn't EE basically mathematics?
>>24132870
Similar
>Sociology is my passion
>Chose biology because I was told I need science to succeed
>Struggling through school and hate my life
I dream of a world where I accomplished my goals
>>24139355
What are you studying friendo?What would you switch to?
>>24139375
Medfag here
That's testicular and non-melanoma skin cancer buddy
>>24134769
Don't do political science. Its a shit degree
>>24132870
Same here friend.
>always wanted to be an artist
>sheltered as a kid so always on computer
>thought programming was interesting from an artists perspective
>decide to pursue more and go to college for STEM even with a scholarship
>shit happens and realize that it was a mistake and I'm not even good at it anyway.
I'm only in my first semester of the second year, so I'm probably going to quit after this, and keep programming around as a hobby while pursuing the arts.
>>24132444
Anyone who did geology/geoscience/geophysics at university in the last 4 years would tell you that it should squarely fit in worst tier.
35% unemployment rate where I live. Luckily I have a job for now.
>>24135245
uoft?
>>24135593
i make 250k a year, work 40 weeks a year (of which i work 4 days/week), and paid my loans back in 3 years
my hospital's pension plan pays 60% of my highest earning year after i retire, which should be around 200k or so.
>>24135553
>le tips fedora*
>>24139610
Anyone UofT Scarborough here?
>>24132951
Business is only bad if you don't focus on finance or accounting. Business administration degrees are literally a dime a dozen and only prepare you for a career in HR.
You're doing it right
I'm gonna try to salvage the last few weeks of this semester, but I know that I have to quit soon.
Already skipping classes all week, feel like shit.
Have no friends.
Told my crush for three years that I liked her and she just said "I dont know what to reply to that"
Every day seems like Im slowly dripping into madness.
Hold me tight and tell me everything is gonna be alright /r9k/
>>24133126
How could you pull that off though? I'm interested as well but it seems impossible
>>24139732
>told crush that I liked her
What is this kindergarten? I hope you didn't actually tell her you "liked" her
Pharm here. Currently building connections with big pharma and working to get a post doctoral fellowship in 2 years when I graduate. My motivation is to eventually break $200k a year so I can get a huge house and a trophy wife and show all the normies.
>>24133130
>250k starting
Yeah ok.
>>24139742
Not him, but I think he's talking about being one of those English teachers who teach abroad in Asia.
You don't even need a teaching degree, just a bachelor's degree in pretty much any field.
Not sure how much they're in demand these days, though. Since it seems like every white boy on the internet wants to do something like that.
>>24139898
Well, I'd be interested in something like that since I want to travel a lot, but I've heard the demand was quite low these days. No idea which other jobs can allow me to travel and lead a comfy lifestyle though.
everything sucks but at least uni gives me some social interaction
>>24139870
Good luck anon. If what I heard is true, you have a LOT of work ahead of you to achieve that goal
>>24139647
St George master race, hope you're enjoying Scarborough pleb
>>24133509
love the rich chinese international relations kids. One of them bought me a bike
>>24132533
tips fedora in an original way
>>24139963
>>24139647
>>24139610
hello uoft friends
>tfw having to go into class today
pls no
>>24139647
>scarborough
lol can you really say you go to University of TORONTO if you go the scarborough campus
>Environmental Science
I am a simple man of simple needs
Only true answer.
>>24140011
(O)HOHOHOHOHO
im writting comfy essays in my comfy bed all day
What program are you in?
>>24140080historygradyou?
THERE BETTER BE FREE FUCKING COFFEE
>>24140074
>tfw I went from mid to low and am now deeply regretting it.
>>24140080
architecture reporting innot a meme degree, swear
>>24132444
did art
>earn 6 figures
AHAHAHAHAH
>>24140406
>earn 6 figures
>>24132841
In medicine and technology there are majors/fields that require little/no math. Ofc CompSci requires math and IT is low tier but there might be other tech majors you can look into.
tought i had 40 pounds left
turns out i only have 20 pounds and its on its way to become a sack of weed weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyy
>>24140074
>doing what you love
>good
Youre doing it wrong. You probably drank the kool aid society poured for you when you were a kid by telling you to follow your dreams.
The real god tier is doing things that you can tolerate and make enough money for you to pursue your interests outside of work. Only exception: when your interests also happen to earn you good money.
God tier is self-employed, anything else is wagekek-tier. Did mummy tell you that your degree is prestigious? Top lel, enjoy working overtime for me before I replace you with a cheaper Indian. It's really sad to see so many intelligent people brainwashed into the university scam.
>>24140573
Your mom washes cheap Indians for overtime
>>24140573
>the university scam
free university doesnt seem like a scam to me tbqh
europe is the shit desu
>>24140539
You can live fine off a blue-collar wage, society just tells you you need to be a doctor earning six figures because they need your labour. Once you get the six figures society comes up with all kinds of materialistic bullshit to part you from your money so that you think you actually need the job. Once you have saved up for a house and car what more do you fucking need?
>>24140629
Still wasting your time. I dropped out and set up a business within the time it would have taken me to do the degree. They teach you so much bullshit, anyone who thinks university is to prepare you for work is deluded, it's just there to teach you random shit, employers just happen to use it as a yard-stick now.
Accounting major here. I transferred from community college to a small school mid-year and I feel like it fucked me up.
>do one shitty summer internship
>It's mostly accounts payable, want to kill myself every day
>working with some normie asshole from bigger college
>home for the summer so he gets this internship in his wealthy suburban hometown
>see on linkedin he's working for PWC now
I hate this motherfucker. Gets into big 4 because both his parents are CPAs and he goes to a big school where they actually recruit. Literally no accounting firms recruit at my school, we have to take a bus to a career fair elsewhere and big firms don't even give me the time of day. Oh well, he got his gf pregnant so I guess I win in the long run.
Now due to some stupid graduation requirement I find out I can actually graduate in december instead of spring like I thought (dropping my minor helped). Only this isn't really a good thing because I have no practical experience and I have no jobs lined up or anything. I was planning on interning for a firm and then getting hired after graduation, but it looks like that might be out the window.
>want to work audit
>interview with large national firm, not big 4 but just large enough to be good for me
>really want to work here, mail out thank you notes and everything
>just got turned down on friday
>feeling shitty ever since
>also interviewed with a small local tax firm
>don't want to do tax, don't want to work there, but feel like I nailed the interview
>still waiting to hear back
I'm so anxious waiting to hear from these guys, it feel like my only chance at actually having a decent career. Otherwise I guess I'll have to try to apply with my terrible resume for full-time work. I don't even know how that works.
Sorry for the wall of text, I'm really stressing about this and I wanted to get it off my chest. I fucking hate accounting, I have no idea why I picked this shitty profession. I should have just done IT or been a janitor.
Civil engineering also why the fuck is it low tier
>>24140697
still im having the time of my life just living a student life and still having good grades at comp sci
i dont know how things are right now but im pretty sure a comp sci from a top Uk uni will net me a good internship and later a better job
basically dont skip on education
How do I motivate myself?
I've been skipping a lot of my classes that I don't /need/ to go to, even though that'll start bad habits. I also can't get myself off of /r9k/, I should be studying.
>>24140697
Oh yeah so I run a design company and I hired some architecture grads, they were less able at CAD than me, could barely put together a wooden frame compared to me who had taught myself. I asked them why the fuck weren't they masters of AutoCAD after 4 years in university, they said "we just wrote a lot"
>>24140753
4chan will ruin your entire fucking uni career, legit
Limit it to specific times when everything else you should be doing that day is done. Set this habit now and you'll end up saving an extra 300 days of wasted time by the end of undergrad.
>>24140786
4Chan is definitely not what ruined mine...
>>24132444
Computer Science here.
It's tough.
>>24140889
so tough
>>24132559
U might enjoy checking out thug notes on you tube. Hysterical! Love, Grandma
>>24140731
oh shit the brainwashing never ends, this is another load of bollocks that the university you go to matters. Outside of Law, economics it doesn't fucking matter. You know why schools push kids into Oxbridge? Because it makes them look good. That is it. What grade you get in university is far more important. "top" universities are actually worse at teaching undergrad subjects because they are so wrapped up in their research. Universities that claim to be "top in undergrad studies" it's all marketing, the university I dropped out of was a top one and my department were letting in people with Bs when I applied then they suddenly hiked it up to A*s. Why? Because management told them to improve their image. The department stayed adamant that they never had a problem with B students but management decided they had to keep up with the joneses.
I have more evidence, After I dropped out I was pretty lost and applied to some apprenticeships. One was with a global engineering firm called Arup. I didn't get the job so I was considering returning to university and asked them where I should go, they said it didn't matter all they care about is what modules I did and my final degree class.
Over time I realized that I busted my arse in A levels just to please others. Could have chilled and got AAB but no they had to whip me into getting A*A*A as if there's really a difference in quality between universities who ask for the former and latter.
>>24132444
Med student here. Working my ass off and still only scoring the exact average on every exam. Shit's demoralizing af.
>>24132444
>medicine
KEK
enjoy being 12 hours awake
>elcetrical engineering
>worst tier
>>24140889
But cs isn't tough...its just babby math
>>24139431
No one?eat shit robot
>>24132444
>Comp. Sci
>Dietetics
>Biology
>Chemistry
>Economics
>law
>Motherfucking nutrition
how can all these be better than chemicial engineering
>>24141033
most people are awake 12 hours of the day
>>24141002
I like how everyone is ignoring my posts. Can't handle the redpill that you're really just following society's conveyor belt.
Geology. isn't even in the chart..... too good to be in a chart!
get rekt!
>>24141134
Yeah, the list is pretty crap. Chemical/mechanical engineering and medicine are really the only ones that should be in the highest tier these days.
>>24141033
>enjoy being 12 hours awake
are you insuating the average human is awake less?
>>24135736
You can double major with one minor or have two minors with one major.
I'm a CS major with a minor in Spanish and Japanese. It takes more time to get more than one degree, and is usually limited by what the uni offers
>>24141134
>>24141220
I's a meme chart.Everyone knows Medicine, Law and Engineering are the holy trinity of jobs.
>>24141254
>Engineering
building engineer here, literally jobless for over a year
>>24141186
you write too long posts to be read. still, I think the same way. that's why I didn't went for normal university
>>24141278
Building engineer.... You mean civil? If so, arguably the worst one.
>>24133575
One of the most important factors in mitigating the risk of lawsuits and the risk of losing a patient is being a personable, likable. Human beings are irrational, emotional creatures.
worst tier and 2nd year in, what's wrong with electrical engineering?
>>24141186
Maybe it's because you're just edgy.
>society's conveyor belt
Well tipped my friend.
>>24141278
At least you are smart af.
>>24141321
What university do you go to then?
And my post doesn't take 30 seconds to skim through. Whatever I can't force you to read it, the truth is there take it now or take it when your 45 with a mid-life crisis but you already wasted your life on what society wanted you to do.
>>24141334
In the Netherlands we have civil and building engineering, it's basically the same thing except civil does roads, bridges and water stuff while building focuses on buildings like houses, appartments and skyscrappers
>>24141254
Nah, law is a bad choice these days. The market is very saturated.
>>24141368
Well it is. Nobody ever asked me if I actually wanted to go to university, I was just taken to the computer room and told to sign up for UCAS one day.
>>24141380
Ah ok, different systems then.
>>24141369
Different person. But I think one of the main appeals for a STEM degree is not the workforce but that you can boast about how knowledgable you are. Success was never the goal, being a smartass was.
My only friend is studying a media degree. He's literally wasting 50k. He's two years in, and hasn't learnt anything he didn't already know. He has 2-4 lectures (maybe 10 hours) of teaching weekly?
What would compel someone to do something like that?
What kind of a retarded autist wrote this? Law should be in great tier. Sciencefags gtfo
>>24141406
Then S should be ommited desu
>>24141395
Did they literally force you to go to university? Was it literally against your will? If you didn't want to go I doubt anyone could've done anything to really stop you.
>>24141395
You're an idiot. I signed up for UCAS at school but they don't have any power to force you to actually go to university...
>>24133130
>150k mean
If you're not going into a specialization.
>cardiologist
>350k mean
>>24141395
I felt as though I was obligated to go too. It was a huge mistake, and I deeply regret it, but there's no need to be so edgy about it.
>>24141370
it's a bit special, it's called "Ecole Normale" It's a special school created by the state in order to form researchers and high-level teachers it's free and you're even payed. The lessons are very high level and you're almost sure to find a job at the end. However, the selection at the entry is quite hard and you have the obligation to work for the state after you graduated.
>molecular biology
I don't give a shit about science.
I just hope it looks good enough on my CV to impress the industry chumps.
It was either this or some humanities bullshit.
>>24136797
it was always placed in god tier and talked about constantly by those majoring in it so the new chart is to piss people off
>>24134666
with your trips, maybe you shouldn't!
>>24141431
>>24141470
Fucking retard just because there wasn't a gun to your head doesn't mean you weren't obliged to do it. It's like military service in some places. Even if it's not mandatory there is a lot of social pressure, you're not a man if you don't go etc. Likewise with high achieving kids you're basically branded a failure if you voice opinions about not wanting to go to university. I think I I did mention it to my aunt once and she was entierely adamant that I go. I remember before A levels in GCSE this smart kid shocked everyone by deciding to do an apprenticeship instead of A levels because his dad had a connection. Everyone said shit about him behind his back INCLUDING ME about how he was wasting his talent. Guess what, I saw the fucker in the local news for winning the apprentice of the year award or some shit, turns out he's a manager now.
>>24141576
Well at least you get my point
>>24141594
I don't mind vocational schools, at least they actually teach you practical skills and line you up with a job after it. It's the posh universities that get me where you have to learn shit for the sake of looking smart.
>>24141596
>mol bio
It's literally O-Chem for idiots.
>>24140034
>>24140011
>>24139963
i-im actually in the centennial college campus a 10 minute walk away. I thought more robots would be at UTS though.
no bully
>>24141774
What did you study?
>>24141794
Chemistry is glorified physics
>>24141860
>Chemistry is glorified physics
It is, yes.
It's a subsection so large that it has to be its own discipline, however.
Physics is just glorified mathematics anyway.
Still trying to finish my first essay ever
All the super-relevant papers people are referencing in the papers I've found are from 1970s and shit and you need to buy them for 30 pounds or something
>>24141881
>Physics is just glorified mathematics anyway.
This is true.If you are good at math you are god in today's world.
>tfw shit at math
>>24141860
>What did you study?
Chemistry lmao
>>24141927
>tfw good at physics but not maths
nobody will ever understand
>>24141774
I don't know what to tell you even though I feel the same way. I really wish I could have done it differently.
>>24141927
Mathematics is just glorified Philosophy, tho.
>>24141946
How is this even possible?
>>24141929
What business do you own now?
>>24132444
EET and computer science
Still don't get why eng. is so low senpai. More than twice the hours of art/science majors and no blowoff courses.
>>24141774
yeah you're right. I tried one year of uni, and it pissed me off so much I applied for this school. It was fucking hard to get there, but it was definitively the best decision I ever made
ENGLISH
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education specifically
>>24141927
>This is true.If you are good at math you are god in today's world.
>tfw only good at math and not good at anything else
>>24142060
So study math.
>>24139470
Currently on Architecture, its a new course at my uni and really badly managed desu, I want to switch over to digital media or something along those lines. The thing i like most about architecture is building stuff in 3d modelimg software
>>24141970
Product design hence the CAD.
>>24142075
I did. You can't get a job with a math degree without at least having other skills however.
>>24142194
finance?
>>24142133
How new is it senpai?
>>24142256
Finance requires being able to interact with people and use software. I'm trying to underscore just how useless I am at everything but pure math, I can barely even use R.
>>24141927
wth is that familia?
>>24142285
owh. and in the field of the research? My uncle also can't do anything but pure maths, and that's what hes does.
>studying communications
>literal toilet paper degree
I'm gonna join the army anyway
hopefully they'll take me in
>>24132444
not in it, but kind of wanted to be. Whats wrong with electrical engineering I thought trades were ok.
Anyone else /network_engineer/ ?
>>24142374
At least you'll have a degree. You wouldn't know what I would give to have a fancy one that I could hang on the side wall of a cardboard box.
I'm an electrician. I didn't even finish high school, so I'm not sure which tier I correspond to.
>finishing my undergrad
>going to apply to grad school
>the main college I want to get into for unrelated reasons is female-heavy
I'll be in a female-dominated program at a female-dominated school OH FUCKING BOYguess it's a good thing I'm already used to being in female-heavy communities
>>24132973
Because there are like 500 positions in north america that hold good jobs for History.
Unless you have a PHD from a really well known school, your not getting a job outside of teaching with history.
Yeah history is fucking cool, but reality is a thing too.
>>24132951
> The job prospects look good
Depends were you live, Buisness is one of the most common degrees, where I live you'll be lucky getting a job with it.
Also the types of jobs you can get with it are pretty fucking boring imo.
>>24135245
>tfw only go to class for two days out of the week for about 3 hours per day
>it still feels like too much work
I look back at how long I was spending at school in high school and I honestly don't understand how I did it.
>>24142261
Im in 2nd year and its the 2nd year theyre doing it, i was in the pilot group
>>24133001
> laughing at human biology
kek
>>24133356
ill be ur friend :3
>>24142411
God tier imho.How hard is it?
>>24134621
what school you in?
My history professors keep insisting that local and federal government positions are usually filled by history majors in an attempt to keep us from switching into something more lucrative. I don't want to make a lot of money, I just want job security. I've thought about going into teaching, but I don't want to be accused of being a pedo. The only good thing about this experience is that I won't have any student debts.
>>24132899
stop this meme man
>>24133356
Thar's depressing. It sounds farfetched but I'd go to a random hospital and ask for advice or even your classmates.
>>24132444
Shit tier but also learning statistics because I know that I need a job
>>24133356
Are there any nice professors/lecturers/student advice people you can talk to about this? maybe tell them that youve been so concentrated on grades etc that youve not done much socialising?
>>24142311
Kinesin. Literally the swaggest protein known to man. It struts its stuff along your neurons to make shit work, faam
Geography skrubs
Nice and wide degree
>GIS, physical geography
>useful
>love geography
>feels good
Depressed anxious and running out of money for food
>>24141523
>cardiologist
>being able to find a job in anywhere worth living
>all these History majors itt
My niggas plan on becoming a Teacher, the job market and pay is really nice in my country
>>24142833
who cares? I'd live in the north pole if I made 300k a year
>>24142806
that's not a neuron, thast's a microtubule
>>24142886
>the job market and pay is really nice in my country
Where do you live and can I move there?
>>24142907
Yeah. A microtubule inside the axon of a neuron.
neuroscience biggest mistake of my life. finished as a neuropsychologist closest thing to what I wanted to be
>>24142889
>shoveling snow in ice cold weather all day long
>having nowhere to spend you money
>fatass eskimo bitches everywhere you go
>only meat you can find is whale (muktuk) or seal blood or some bullshit like reindeer
yeah, no thanks. Id rather make 60k/yr and live somewhere nice than 300k in a shithole
>>24142886
what's your country? In mine, I got no fees, and even get payed 1300 euros to make teacher studies
>>24132444
Not an electrical engineer, but why is it worst? Doesn't seem bad
>>24142954
It's just memery.
>>24142954
It's a fine degree.
>taking the bait
>>24142926
ok, misunderstood you. but kinesin doesn't work only in neurons
>>24142911
>>24142947
Manitoba, Canada my province has really nice pay scale for teachers (not sure about other provinces). Both my parents are teachers and they make 100k a year (my mom could make more but she refused an offer for a higher position) so long as you stay with the same school division it is nice
Where would forestry fall?
>>24132870
Is this true? i'm in STEM but I love history and classics. Should I switch?
Im thinking about taking psychology, but I kinda find it stupid now. Kinda already have a Diploma in Counselling (it's fucking stupid). Should i go do something else? I can only do IT/Business/Management/Marketing and maybe Law
What should i do to not fuck up my life robots?
I'm I.T. it's easy I'm good at it
>TFW being good means i'm willing to fuck around with a computer for half an hour till its fixed.
I can also make enough money to support myself and what i want to do.
The only problem is I have to take programming and discrete structures. I liked low level programming that showed uses in everyday life now its just all storing and accessing data. I dropped both of them this semester and next I'm taking them with I.T. classes as well. to try and motivate me.
>>24142998
>100k a year
You better start building a wall, anon. I'm gonna hop the border and steal all those hard earned Canadian teaching positions.
What level did they teach? High school?
where my UofG bots at?
>>24134666
why not just go baka
I feel like shit. My teacher told me they think I'm the most promising student in the class but it's torturous to write. In the end, I spend so much time thinking about what garbage I am that I take longer than anyone else, and I'm never happy with my work. Sometimes I don't hit all the objectives because they seem too daunting to attempt. I don't know what to do. I want to die.
>>24132870
Right in the feels
> be humanities guy in hs.
> history, economics, (minus some of the math parts), political science (especially Marxism and authoritarian regimes)
> always hated math. Was fine with science stuff, it was always pretty cool.
>reach trig and Physics
> this is really cool too.
> parent's encourage me to go to STEM, and say v to "try it if you have the smarts to do it "
>reach school.
> it starts kicking my ass with homework.
> slowly get better, find cool classes.
> still hard as balls
> keep wondering if I'm making a mistake.
> wonder if Tech. communication should be my major.
Is there light at the end of the tunnel STEMbots?
>>24143096
My dad teaches geography in highschool and my mom is a guidance counselor. The more courses you take the higher your pay
Just switched to English Ed. Gon' be a teacher. The economy is going to turn around, and educators will be well respected, r-right guys?
>>24142976
>>24142981
I figured it was a meme but meme's sometimes are an just exaggeration of the truth
>>24143151
I do maths and economics if you want a stem/humanities combo that actually makes sense
>>24132471
History too.
>tfw shit tier
>>24142817
Really no /geography/ here? I'm disappointed Robots
>>24132930
To a degree. Also because it fills me with pride seeing what my ancestors accomplished
businessIT
JUST
>>24132471
>Decided to Law
>Only fucking history so far
I seriously hate my country's education.
Dropped out of dental school and got an engineering degree. A robot should not be administering care to sick people, it was reckless of the admission staff to put me in that position.
>>24134412
>but communications is literally the lowest, most academically fraudulent degree outside of women's studies.
You're entitled to that opinion, I even agree that women studies is pointless but I think Communication has way more value. I'll admit Communication isn't very popular but for instance my college has a lot of kineseology majors, I think that's a retarded major.
The majority of them want to do physical therapy and I agree that job makes a lot of money but I still think in terms of academic and knowledge it provides you nothing other then learning how to fix muscle issues. You're not learning anything of long term value....
My point is if 100 people said Communications is a shit major and 10 people said it was a decent major then I would still find value in it, I know it's a cliche thought but honestly if you value your major and choices then you'll never care what others think.
Do I think STEM majors are faggots? Not necessarily, Am I jealous? Most likely but at the end of the day I'm studying something I enjoy. I mean I'm not sure how much you actually know about Communications and if I took the time to tell you everything I know about it you'd most likely just say "Oh I already knew all that" or something like "Oh I don't see the benefit in learning that" I mean honestly there are a myriad of things you could say about it.
TL;DR Basically if you like your major and what you are learning then it doesn't matter what others say, granted most people will say if you aren't learning a trade/skill like STEM then your degree is shit.
> I just couldn't love myself if I studied something that stupid.
Again your opinion, I don't know what your major is but I could easily call your major stupid or view is as worthless. How would that make you feel? If you say that you wouldn't care then you most likely understand how I felt when you said my major was worthless and stupid, opinions, everyone has them.
I fucking hate my university.
>Wakes up at 6:30
>Class at 8
>Gets ready
>Go for class
>See a few of my classmate
>We wait for 30 minutes past 8
>Lecturer is no show
>Finds out class is cancelled
>Nobody informed us.
Class was cancelled today again for the 3rd time this month. I waited in class with everyone else like a dunce.
>>24132899
Why do people keep posting the same picture of mel gibson?
Also why do people keep comparing medicine to undergrad degrees?
>>24142817
>>24143229
Tell me about geography, anon. What is it like? It sounds interesting.
>>24143519
it's just one guy who makes the same threads over and over again
>>24143497
Eh. I have one teacher who can skip class two weeks in a fucking row. And he never tells us he will, he hopes to make it at all and makes us always go to his class.
>>24143497
My college has an unwritten/unspoken rule that if the professor doesn't show up after 15 minutes we all leave, granted I don't know if that rule is universal. We did the same thing in high school, actually the rule is that if it's a non PhD professor then you wait 15, but if they have a PhD then you wait like 25.
That's what I was told by some people....
>>24143170
It's a total meme. Notice how god tier is a graduate degree.
>>24143639
Yeah, it's universal.
>>24143639
>>24143497
>going to class
kuck.
>>24143644
Whats the difference between graduate and undergraduate.USA system is so weird
>>24143639
>unwritten/unspoken rule
That sounds more like commonsense.
>>24143662
Why are you even in this thread....
>Replying to obvious bait
>>24143692
why shouldn't i be in this thread? there aren't that many interesting threads going on right now.
>>24143677
You'd be surprised (well maybe not) at how many people lack commonsense, especially in the college setting.
>Making macaroni in the cup without putting water in it, when it specifically fucking says on the fucking cup to put fucking water in it.
You know how many times the fucking fire alarm has gone off in the dorms because of that shit this semester? Like five.....
Geophysics here. The course has very good employment prospects, but I'll have to work for an evil oil company.
>>24132444
>graduated with bachelors 3 years ago
>working shitty dead-end manual labor job
>want to get a masters so i can get a white collar job
>e-mail professor 3 times asking for a recommendation
>finally responds and says he'll write it
>2 weeks pass
>send him a reminder e-mail
>4 days later no response
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>>24143639
>doesn't show up after 15 minutes we all leave
That's perfectly normal.
It's called "cum tempore", which is Latin for "with time".
All times in academia are usually given with it, when nothing else is denoted.
It means that from the time given the even starts within 15 minutes.
There's also sine tempore, which means on point.
i.e. 10am c.t. is actually "between 10:00am and 10:15am". 10am s.t. is "10:00am".
what tier is dentistry?
>>24143904
why the fuck are you emailing a prof from 3 years ago
youre a sad failure
>only one qt in my classes this semester
>asked her out and she said no
I'm taking three science classes and calculus next semester.
There's no way I'm finding a gf this year.
What's the difference between Comp.Sci and IT? Why are they in two different tiers?
>>24133332
Off by one confirms you don't know what you're talking about
>>24133333
>>24132444
I may rant.
This kind of shit is what is wrong with society. Life is not some experience with objective social standards and tiers. If you live that way, you're living to make your parents happy, you're living for everyone else. Not yourself.
Life doesn't (or shouldn't) work that way. University doesn't have fucking tiers. You don't go to university to select your life's future outcome, or your potential success, even though that's a very common idea. You should be going to university to learn about something you love. If that's history, then great. If it's neuroscience, great. Don't do it because of the status. Don't do it so your mom can tell her friends "oh, my sons a DOCTOR". What the fuck, man. That's stupid. That idea of predetermination is what probably depresses most people going through uni. It's an idiotic philosophy to treat your life like a conveyor belt, where you're popped into the university machine, assigned a tier based off of what you did as a brain-dead teenager in highschool, and then proceed unrelentingly towards your retirement and death with a shiny metal badge that says "doctor" on it.
Fuck that. There are no rules. You can graduate with so-called shit-tier degrees and become hugely successful. The idea that you can't is just a comfortable little idea to prevent you from even trying. Unless your life goal is to impress other idiots who believe in the same thing, who cares. Your willpower determines your success, nothing else.
1/2
>>24132444
>>24144407
2/2
Go to the desert southwest and start making things with turquoise. Smoke weed. Take advantage of the regional traditions and do mescaline. Eat some mushrooms or drop acid and go to Vegas for a weekend. No rules. Fuck it. If you did that and died of an overdose, you'd have had a better idea of what life is than the people who pat themselves on the back for having a degree in pharmacology because it's a status symbol, and then go on to have a very by-the-books life because they're afraid of what people will think of them if they go wild and do something that THEY actually want to do.
Looking at life through such a deterministic lens will only give you anxiety about your future and regret over your past. Especially in the context of /r9k/, i can tell exactly why this shit was posted; so all of you can have a nice maudlin wank about how shitty your 'life choices' or lack thereof have been, or to lord over everyone else your shiny little badge that says Bachelor of Chemistry because it and its empty promise of prestige and success is the only thing you have in your empty miserable shell of a life.
Does that make any sense? I dropped 75 micrograms so don't take any of this shit too seriously.
>tfw going to choose criminal justice
>>24144452
>>24144407
Everything you said would be true if society wasn't run on money and capitalism.Unfortunately you need money and technical fields are better guarantee you will have steady well paid job.
>>24132444
who /shittier/ here? majoring in philosophy
>really like history, world events, international relations and politics
>minor interest in biology so majored in that so I could get a lab job or something
>doing well in all science classes but would rather major in something I actually have a passion for
>two years in so cant even switch majors without having to go to school for an extra year
>>24144680
>biology
>finding a job
top kuk
>>24144672
>TFW I have to take a philosophy class next semester to graduate
>TFW Nobody told me a philosophy class was required
>TFW I don't see the point in taking it
I'll probably still enjoy it, my major is communications so I can see how it might relate to it.
>>24144700
im getting a teaching certificate but i want to be a park ranger
I'll end up as a minimum wage lab tech testing people's piss
What are the comfiest majors and careers? Just looking for something that pays decently well, allows me to work on my own with none of the cubicle office culture bullshit and is interesting/has interesting people in the field
>>24144613
This tbqh fa'm. No matter what society says, your career determines most of your social standing as well as quality of life. People WILL treat you better and respect you more if you're a doctor rather than a plumber. Even though theyll tell you money can't make you a better person or buy happiness, they'll perceive you as a better and more attractive person if you have money (just like that personality/ looks correlation) and money will buy you all the prerequisites for happiness.
>>24144792
I wanted to be a ranger too but ive decided going to police academy after getting a bachelors is my best bet to get a decent job thats active and lets me have a bit of freedom.
>>24142465
Because in high school it was only 25% learning and 75% chatting with classmates or sneaking your phone.
The work was so easy nobody cared
>>24145110
>you will never work in wildlife those jobs you see on tv
>>24143497
Are you are retard? There's a rule in my college If the don't show up in 15 minutes. Even if they're late class is over.
>medicine
God tier, but I'd rather be doing anything else desu. All of my friends have graduated a year ago and making money whilst im still living on a student budget. Also since I'm in the UK they'd be making more money than me even though I've sacrificed more than them. Time to move to cali folks.
>>24145202
not with that kind of grammar you wont
>current senior undergrad
>just got back from doing undergrad research with prof for the day
>basically realized today that the past year of work I've put into research has been useless
>I have no fucking idea where we are going with this dead end project
On another note, I suspect being a senior in college is what becoming older feels like. You get to the point where death is just on the horizon and you aren't necessarily looking forward to it, there's just nothing else left for you here. You've done it all, experienced enough successes and failures to the point where you don't care anymore, all your older friends are gone, you just want don't give a fuck anymore and want to start whatever is next.
>>24144792
Nope, that job is prioritized for the chem and biochem majors.
I'll take a #5, hold the mayo. I'll have a medium fry and a chocolate shake. Thanks bud.
>>24132444
Why is philosophy and art shit tier?
Is it respectable here?
Film
But from the english school, not the drama. More of a screenwriting curriculum.
>>24144672
I honestly would have loved to study philosophy, but I just don't have the money to waste. Nothing else really interests me so I chose math because it's the closest thing and econ because you need to supplement math with something if you don't wanna go to graduate school and I don't care for hard science or CS.
>>24132444
music lol
what's up guys
>>24145251
Why would you want to? You have to touch nasty ass sick people. Fuck that.
>tfw when majoring in something I love, film editing and production
I've been so fucking happy lately since I switched my major.
I implore you robots to spend your time doing what you love as well.
>>24145842
>editing and production
I feel like doing the tedious work and not coming up with the ideas would suck ass. My dad has a business in wedding/event videography and I would never want to sit in vegas/avid/etc for hours on end. It's more fun to write.
>>24132444
Why do these top tier jobs have to be so damned uninspired and monotonous?
Can't we as a collective find a need that we can all agree is both necessary, fun, and pays decently?
>>24145887
I'm in control of most of my projects. I love editing because I can truly bring my vision to life. 1:1 from head to screen.
You're in the control seat when you're editing.
If I haven't gotten any friends by now is it too late? I"m thinking yes.
>>24143536
Well, it's a super wide ranging field. What specifically would you like to know?
>Going back to finish university in the spring
>Only class left is a Latin class
>Haven't kept up on my Latin at all
I really need to start studying now
>you will never be an engineer
>>24144452
>>24144452
You should post more. People need to realise especially here that you should do what the fuck it is that you want to do with your life.
>>24145842
I only love getting drunk and playing video games.
I wish there was something i liked that i could make money from.
>>24134483
Marie Antoinette was the biggest Stacy in history retard
>>24145642
Why would you go to college for those things?
I don't have anything against those things but for college it's best to study something you can do for a living.
>>24146243
Make video games?
>>24146265
I was studying computer science (or maybe it should be called computer engineering, i'm not in an english speaking country) and with that maybe i would have been able to make video games but i was miserable there.
I had to do so much stuff and i just couldn't force myself to study enough. I got drunk and played video games instead.
>>24141278
do HVAC
Who here /math/
I like analysis and topology the best
>>24146357
I'm studying business/economics/law (we don't pick one of those three until later) and we have statistics now.
It's more fun than the previous courses that were marketing and management.
>>24146467
business/economics/finance*
WHO HERE /bluecollar/?
>>24146505
It's too hard for me m8, i can only dick around in university for a few years before killing myself or maybe getting some dumb office job.
>>24138946
KGB created all these useless and meaningless degrees in the 60's when they infiltrated US university to try and subvert the country. The people who were apart of that original group became the next professors and so on. Now it's so ingrained in university culture it is impossible to remove, just as the KGB planned.
>mfw first year electrical engineering
I eat lunch alone everyday and I feel fine.
>>24146702
Fuck, I dont know about you but I like to eat alone and in peace. I can be social at times, but eating in peace and quiet is nice.
t-taking policing... am... am i good tier?
>CS student
>studying formal languages and automata
JUST
>want to pursue my love of the fine arts
>want to make money
>>24146835
If only I weren't surrounded by myriads of people. There is alone space for lone eaters here.
>>24146312
Computer engineering is completely different from computer science
>get grouped up with other CompSci students for any assignment
>they won't stop talking about Fallout 4
>people who don't game as much as I do are literally unable to focus on graded assignments for 5 minutes without getting off-track about video games
Chad is a wonderful person. Stacy can sometimes be a wonderful person.
Reddit and Tumblr from CompSci can go shoot themselves, though. They are the true scumbags of Earth. I hope they get shitty jobs in game development and don't do real programming.
>>24147171
This desu. There is nothing more distracting that that one autist in your CS class that insists on playing fucking LoL in the middle of class.
>>24147157
I don't know which one of those the thing i was studying was most similar too.
The programs aren't exactly the same in different countries. It was called datateknik. The school calls it computer science but it's an engineer degree. It's just not really same as in USA.
>go to same uni as my one single friend
>friend is LITERALLY a sperg
>he has made more friends so far than I have
I don't know why I bother
>>24144613
I agree with what you're saying. But I'm more saying you should reject society's conventional goals and a large part of society too, namely the parts you just mentioned (money, capitalism).
imo, success is not measured by social standing or wealth. It's measured by satisfaction. The problem is that most people become satisfied with money and popularity, while ignoring most of the other ways. You can be dirt-poor and unknown, but if you have a woman/man in your life that you love in the truest, purest, and most profound way possible and they love you in that same way too, then you, my friend, are incredibly successful.
After success in things like love and family it gets progressively more fanciful and less reliant on society/money/etc. Travel and exploration, self-improvement, self-expression, spirituality, sex, and drugs are the ones that readily come to mind. It's a spectrum of positive life experiences, really; at one end, you get the ones that require more patience and judgement, like becoming wealthy, cultivating relationships, social stuff, and at the other end you get the really self-involved things like self-improvement, sex, and even impulsive and volatile stuff like drugs.
So all I have to say is that life is about success. Success is about satisfaction. Satisfaction is about positive life experiences. Money and wealth are a very common path to success, but there's so much more to success, and therefore LIFE, than that.
>>24147285
What kind of classes did you take?
>>24135275
What's the big deal with being told any of that shit anyway? Does it hurt your feelings or make you piss your pants or someshit? Hahaha
>"You are fired"
Ooooh. Scary.
>"I need you to do ABC before end business"
Yeah I'll think about it.
>"Who do you report to?"
Your mom.
>"I need you to stay later, come in earlier we need to finish ABC"
Yeah... Maybe if I manage to wake up
If he fires you just get another job. Easy, assuming you aren't a retard.
>>24144999
A very materialistic view. You're entitled to it of course, but I would not want to live my life that way. Money does not buy all the prerequisites to happiness, and for those prerequisites that it DOES buy, let's be honest. Most of those don't cost all that much. You can be poor and still live a very successful life. My post here >>24147314 talks about that.
>>24132444
I heard its hard as fuck to find a job as a Pharmacy major, is that true?
And what kind of jobs can you get with Bio major?
>>24132559
I want to teach, too. Got any advice for a current freshmen? Honestly I wouldn't mind teaching any subject and I'd actually prefer elementary school. I dunno what I should major in though.
>got a degree in EE a year ago
>realize that I pretty much don't know/remember shit about the field that I spent 4 years "studying" in
now I feel anxious and a failure when I read a scientific paper in EE and it's like a unknown language to me
>>24141002
Top kek. I got A*A*A*A*A* in physics, biology, chemistry, math, and further math, but missed the oxbridge application deadline because nobody told me shit about it being on the 15th of oct.
I did manage to get into Imperial, but I goofed up when I realized I applied for ChemE rather than something cooler like CS.
So now I'm stuck at a state university in burgerland, which is literally the exact same outcome if I had just gotten BBBBB. You can't done goofed more than I did.
>>24147468
haskell, discrete mathematics, linear algebra, "digitalteknik" like a bunch of digital logic, assembler, c, java, algorithms and datastructures, parallell programming, programming paradigms, calculus, electricity (citcuits and fields), one course that i don't know what to call it but we used vhdl to make a simulated processor, statistics.
We had some more but i can't really remember now.
>>24143639
One of my profs has a postdoc in mathematics and he's 25...
>waits for eternity
>>24132867
how the fuck is teaching god tier??
My degree is better than yours cause i said so!
No mine is better than yours idiot cause harder!
I wish more of my bones were broken!
Muh paycheck mufugga
>>24147567
Don't you people have B.Ed in burgerland?
I'm finishing up my concurrent B.Ed/B.Mus right now
>>24148068
So I hear education major isn't good for finding a job.
>>24136726
where did pepe's last name come from?
>>24144792
Do forest ranger too, its similar more actually helping people ans less working the desk for a decade until you get promoted
Can someone explain economics major to me?
Like, what is that they do?
Thinking about doing that. I really would rather be a teacher but I figure I could minor in education or something.
I hear a lot of economics majors work government jobs. Is that a pro or con?
Please help.
>>24132705
tfw out of college and girls wont talk to you because no $
>>24132993
rape them
>>24148383
The comics
>>24148445
Most economics students work in private sector.
Usually at banks or consulting firms.
>>24148783
what kind of stuff do they do? wage slavery I assume.
Good pay?
>>24132444
>wow a degree ranking
>lets check
>wheres mine
>god tier: medicine, thats fair
>great tier: where dafuq is mine
>skip the other fuckers
>tfw when im the worst tier
>tfw im a meme
>>24149037
In not sure. I googled a bit about it yesterday because I'm considering it too but I still don't know.
>>24145842
>tfw no face
MD physician fag here. work 7 days on, 7 days off. 12 hour shifts. make 270k doing the bare minimum. kinda hard to maintain professionalism 24/7 when surrounded by diseasefags
>>24132870
>loved history and politics
>chose Finance and Econ to because greedy jew-kin
>regret setting in
>>24149144
I like the sound of it because it sounds versatile, enough. Can get into business, politics, maybe education too.
>>24149217
How was med school?
>>24132444
>art
>shit tier
>not realizing everything around you has been directly impacted by an artist
>>24132951
Don't listen to these fags, Business is useful as fuck and there are always going to be jobs for Business grads but only if you have personal skills and you have the confidence to succeed
>5 Papers to write
>First of them due Wednesday at 9am
>started none
how do I get motivated senpai
>>24133130
>>250k
>Not 350k + bonuses
U dun goofed negroid
>>24149289
Avoid distractions and go to the library. Who knows you might meet a qt on the way.
>>24132444
Guess I'm Shit Tier then with a Masters in Fine Art making 121k per annum. Oh well.
>>24149329
teach me your ways, anon friend
>>24149359
Sucking dick for $10 each, hard work but bills gotta be paid eh?
>>24132899
I love it when an engineer gets fired at my office. They all have that same, "I'm a fucking engineer, you can't fire me" look when their packing their shit.
They don't realize engineers are a dime a dozen thanks to the STEM lie that's been infesting our schools.
>>24132444
Am I better off in forestry, wood science, or agriculture?
>>24140539
good goy : o )
Just ten more years of university, just a couple hundred more dollars down the drain! I know you can do it!
>>24149359
Most people believe the lie that artists don't get paid well so they steer clear of the field.
Those who choose to actually go into the arts soon realize that it's not just doing shit willy nilly and expressing yourself all the time in what ever way you want, so that cuts out even more people.
Then those who do graduate have to compete with those who are already in the field. The rule of thumb is that if you don't end up working in your artistic field in the first 18 months after graduating you won't end up working in the field at all, so that cuts out even more people.
Finally you're left with those who have made the cut and got lucky enough to work and they end up getting paid 60-75 bucks an hour because engineers and scientists don't know how to make their products look good.
>>24132444
MEDICINE IS NOT GOD TIER! Doctors are overpaid overrated faggots
I'd say "GREAT TIER" should be "GOD TIER" and vice versa. I'm a mathfag but a friend of mine is a statfag, so you should include "Statistics" too.
>>24144203
who the fuck else would i ask? my borderline illiterate supervisor at my shitty $35k/yr manual labor job?
Depressed math major here, abstract algebra sucks
