Fantasy civ quest ep.3
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>>348334
We are the tribe of Rog, a early-bronze era-level human civilization.
54 years ago the shamans lost their connection to the Gods and with that their magical powers. Our tribe settled at the ocean's coast and developed, colonising nearby areas, increasing our population and advancing in technology and wealth.
Notable things that have happened - we slew a Water Dragon, peacefully took over a goblin mining community, welcomed and peacefully settled a demon warband on our lands and discovered a neighbouring human tribe that we are trading with.
The last news we heard were of a foreigner arriving in the town Kulargar. He calls himself a priest and is able to cast magical spells without the aid of artefacts(the only way our shamans are able to perform magic these days) - he says he has come to spread the word of the Gods.
Year 54
>>Population:4330 humans, 450 goblins, 570 demons
>>Food production:8/10
>>Food stockpiles:8/10
>>Resources:8/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks
>>Economy: improving fishing, improving agriculture, improving husbandry, basic textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture:writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 100 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Other
Rolled 16 (1d100)
>>353000
>H.Other
Talk with the priest
Buglar my new village name is Inkport
I'm going to be rolling for my clan talking with the priest and learning more from him.
Rolled 22 (1d100)
>>353000
>E.Government & laws
Roll for clan exploring west searching interesting things to kill.
>>353000
Bulgar I have a question.
Will our assets come into play later as the civ moves though the years?
Rolled 12 (1d100)
>>353000
>F.Exploration & colonization
We join Great Crow's expedition west if it goes to the lake. Otherwise, we split off and make our way there ourselves. I imagine our weapons right now are a mixture of self-defence weapons such as shortswords and fishing and farming tools such as spears, knives and pitchforks.
Rolled 57 (1d100)
>>353000
>G.Research & development
Dark shamanism magic!
How does this work? Do we make our own village?
>>353056
You can either be a tribesman and play it like a normal civ or you can be a faction leader.
>>353056
No it's a mixed system of civ and factions. If you're not part of a faction then you just process our civ. If you have a faction you can work together with other factions to get things done.
For example my faction was able to explore and settle on the island. If you make a faction I could help you along the way if you help me.
>>353063
Would it be cool if I made a mercantile faction near Cape Bullhorn? I was thinking something like Dwarven sailors who instead of actually producing goods, they are just master merchants. They have some production ability but more refined goods. (Think Dwarven Venice) I even have a name. "Stone-Beard Mercantile Society"
Or do I pick one that's already made?
Rolled 88 (1d100)
>E. Government and laws
Get some Hammurabi shit up in this
Also rolling to check for metals in the Daemon quarry
>>353070
>>353074
You can make a human, or goblins, or demon faction
You can't have dwarfs yet since we don't have dwarfs in our civ. But if you want to be traders I'm at a prime place to trade. I just need good traders to work with me.
But be warned the demons and goblins are not liked and their not known for trading. You can be a human trading faction
>>353027
Yeah
Forgot to rename your new settlement to Inkport, will do it on the next mupdate. It's still a village for now though.
So here's the faction and magic rules. I'll put them in a pastebin.
FACTION RULES
You can choose to just be a voice from the tribe, a nameless clan chief or such, which will let you to vote on all issues however you want, the classic civ-style.
You can also put on a name and craete a faction. Factions must abide by a couple of simple rules.
If your faction hails from outside our civilization, it must be accepted into it by vote.
If your faction is native to our civilization(any of its races) you are limited to whatever knowledge, equipment and technology we have at the present.
When creating a faction, give me a text that describes it nicely - if it doesn't break canon, you get the green light from me.
There is one stat you need to write down and update - your assets.
An example clan's assets can be
>Medium amount of farmland; large cow herds;the village of Bullhorn; the great warrior, Bikk
This system is made to allow RP between factions as well as interactions - several factions worked together to found the village of Nayte, for instance. This way we get actions that are independent from the main civ's for the turn.
Now, here's the thing - if you want your faction to do something during a turn, you have to focus your efforts on that, so you don't get to participate in the general vote(Food production, culture, construction etc.). So every turn you must choose if you want to influence the civilization itself or focus on your own tasks, maybe working together with other factions - or against them!
MAGIC RULES
Every race has a natural level of magical strength. That serves as a multiplier, essentially.
Magic does not come from nothing, it needs fuel - either honest prayer, sacrifice or an artefact(potions, magic items and such, which store a set amount of magical fuel). Magical power can also be granted from one being to another - the method by which the shamans of old performed their spells was sacrificing living beings to the elements and recieving their magic in return.
A being's natural magic power amplifies the effectiveness of magic fuel - it is possible for humans to pray to another human, giving him magic power, but that same amount of prayer would be more effective on a deity. Same goes for sacrifices. That is why the traditional way is mutually beneficial and efficient - let's say10 units of magic fuel can only give a human 3 magic power. They can give a demon(stronger magical affinity by nature) 6 magic power, a magic being(like Wave) 8 magic power and a proper God - 10.
Therefore the way of the Gods is to promise power, get sacrifice or prayer and return a portion of what was gained.
Still, nothing is stopping a human from seeking magical power for himself without a God's help - you can use it however you want that way.
One last thing - magic requires fuel and skill that is taught.
voting E
Rolled 7 (1d100)
>F Exploration
Rolling for our sucess in meeting the wise man in our neighbours
also putting down my assets before I forget
>Large amounts of wealth and land
>Skilled craftsmen
>Marriage and close contacts with the Kulargar
Attention - I want all active factions to give me a current description of themself and to list their assets.
E - government & Laws
Currently each of the three communities is ruled separately - the demons are led by one named Fernius, the goblins are represented by a workers union and the humans are led by a chieftain. Any clan leader can become chieftain. Every spring there is a Contest, at which those who wish to take the place compete against each other and the current chieftain(if there is one that they wish to replace) to determine who deserves to wear the Dragonbone crown.
What should we do?
A.Write down some laws
B.Abolish chieftainism, clan leaders will make joint decisions!
C.Challenge Chieftain Luwerg at the contest! He's gotten old now, fresh blood is needed.(Human faction players, if you want you can send your leader to take part in this contest. Dice will be rolled to determine the result, I'll roll one for Luwerg, anons can roll for generic non-faction contestants, which will keep the crown away from the hands of any of the factions)
D.Other idea
>>353076
Shit...I like Dwarves. Alright I guess I will stick with Scottish looking humans.
So here goes:
The Steenbaard Council is a group of mercantile-minded citizens who thrive on refining goods (jewelry, columns, fine furniture etc) and sell it to the richer inhabitants of Rog. However, their next talent is the uncanny ability to harness the wind and sea to their benefit and therefore are known to be shrewd yet master merchants. The system of worship among the Steenbaards is a sort of idolatry in the natural world around them and have deified these natural occurrences. Everything from the sea, to fertility, to the North Wind and so on. Having established their own independent society on the far northern tip of Cape Bullhorn, they strive for grand riches and a economical utopia.
The natural features of Steenbaards are that they are very tall but strangely appear stocky at the same time, never skinny but never obese they are usually muscular in body type. Hair variants are bright red to a dark brown and usually have brown or blue eyes. Some of the lower class citizens have fishing boats or a small crew of five if they are a captain while the richer citizens can command fleets and armies and house untold riches. In this society, wealth translates to influence.
Assets: Long sea coast for fishing, small village of makeshift huts, amalgamation of sea-faring vessels.
Is all this okay Bulgar?
>>353100
>C.Challenge Chieftain Luwerg at the contest! He's gotten old now, fresh blood is needed.(Human faction players, if you want you can send your leader to take part in this contest. Dice will be rolled to determine the result, I'll roll one for Luwerg, anons can roll for generic non-faction contestants, which will keep the crown away from the hands of any of the factions)
Of course Great Crow will challenge Chief
Great Crow Clan
Clan took big losses during dragon fight.
Hates non-humans.
Dislikes sea.
Dislikes magic, but recognizes it's strength.
Enjoys alcohol and taming wild animals.
Assets: Small clan of warlike hewers and skilled hunters, for some reason clansmen are stronger than your average human.
Creating a new faction
Faction: The Goblin Inquisition
A very small number of goblins and their demon associates who deal with any goblin who have the thought of rebellion or independence by turning them into sacrifices for shamans. They mostly act in secret and their long term objective is to become a legitimate institution.
Assets: Unsteady supply of sacrifices, Secret headquarters with torture chambers and a smithy, 20 goblins and 4 demon inquisitors
>>353100
Voting A
>>353100
>A wooden fishing village with a strongly blessed anti-evil protective moat
>A small amount of farmland
>15 fishing boats
>Musical instruments (drums and bells)
>>353100
A. Only HUMANS can lead our clan
Goy clan is a xenophobic, mercantilistic clan of old bloods, craftsmen and traders. Our main goals is to forge as many relations as we can with fellow humans to get them to trade and ally with us
Assets
>Great wealth
>Owns large tracts of land in Dragonstomb
>Marriage and good relations with the Kulargi
>>353107
Also 30 humans, my bad.
>>353100
A
Malt's Night Stalkers
Assets
Black magic tablets
Town of Nayte
Large plot of Fertile soil for gardening
Clan of skilled Shaman's and Alchemists
Alchemist Lab
>>353107
Good, but on the talents, it can easily fit with our civ's knowledge of the Gods
Back in the day, shamans would commune with the elemental gods - Storm, Flame, Wind, Earth, Water, Light, Darkness and Ice.
Your clan could have a line of shamans that worship Wind, Water and maybe Storm.
Now, I get that a lot of people want to be merchants and merchant-minded clans, but keep in mind our current population, territory and technological level. A very small percentage of the population can realistically sustain itself purely on trade, the economy is focused on producing stuff.
That's sort of a personal feeling of mine desu, it's like the saying too many chieftains and not enough indians, it's related to the modern-day economy as well, I want to see people making actual products or at least providing services and have trade be something that links producers and consumers together, not the center of the economy. Trade has such a spot in most people's minds because it is more romanticized, in a way, but it's the farmers, artisans, miners, fishermen and builders who actually make an economy.
Now, as our civilization advances and we discover more nations, trade can play a larger role.
This is mostly me expressing my opinion. In my job I sometimes make deliveries to the beer factory of my city - the area is in use by various companies nowadays, but none of them are producing anything, just importing goods from elsewhere, which makes me REEEEEE every time.
>>353100
A.Write down some laws
Only human can lead the tribe
The Godric Clan from it's start were hunters, liking how they lived until farming become a new things.
They were mostly farmers on the mainland, but when land was discover at sea the leader of the clan Tor moved the clan to the island. Their they farmed the fertile soil, started mining it's metals. Some of the clan took up fishing and build a small port on the island.
As time past and the village grew a new place was settle since the island was becoming overpopulation. The clan also got a trading port put on the island so their traded with the other tribe while at the same time fell in love.
The Clan for the most part like to train when not working, so everyone has some knowledge of weapons
>Big Population
>Village of Godric Isle
>Village of Inkport
>Mine of Godric Isle
>Trading Post of Godric Isle
>Large amounts of wealth and land
>Marriage and close contacts with the Kulargar
Clan of mostly famers/ranchers, while the other are hunters/warriors
Hates non-humans. But willing to work with them.
Magic is useful, but can be a danger
Enjoys alcohol and becoming stronger
Assets: Land and animals, Clan of Trained farmer and rancher, fishers, some traders with some skilled hunters in the mix.
Want the human race to proper
Hates the Demons and Goblins
>>353121
Goy Clan maybe we can work together in the future you like Humans, I like humans. Win win.
>>353133
Alright that sounds better, honestly. My next choice was a more industrial/naval power.
Instead of being traders, we could produce stone and copper and be a producer of seafood as well.
Consider me industrialist now. New Name still the same assets: Steenbaard Hegemony. Rulership is still decided by wealth, but instead of gold and jewelry, it's based off of who owns the most raw goods. Sticking with this.
>>353120
(A faction of humans who believe in the ideal of purity and distrust other races They are fond of music, poetry and traditional wooden architecture. They view Chieftain Luwerg as weak and foolish for being too friendly with non-humans. They make an exception for Wave as a sort of benevolent, natural ocean spirit. They are fond of wearing seashells and carrying beach-sand with them in their pockets or in leather flasks.)
>>353134
I forget to say but my clan worships the old elements gods preying for their return.
>They settle on the island to build a temple to the fire element. They were just getting all the needed materials first
So who here wants to help build a fire temple in the volcanic island, so we can call back the fire element god.
>>353142
We could help each other, Hegemony Clan
>>353144
Also I agree with you Poets of the chieftain being too friendly with non-humans.
Want to form a anti-demon ledge to stop more humans from turning into demons
>>353150
That sounds good! However, I was thinking our clan would be more open to non-humans, profit is profit in our eyes.
By the way Bulgar, if you want me to write down concise religion/magic, just say the word.
>>353100
A small group of newly-converted demons who seek to better the lot of the civ as a whole via public works and technology, as well as make a name for themselves and secure a place in history.
Assets:
>Mid-sized quarry full of granite, possibly metals
>70 craftsmen, proficient in stonemasonry, bronze-smithing, and a few fire mages who are still basically glorified matchboxes
>residence in/partial ownership of Nayte
>workshops in Nayte
>>353142
You still want a village to have in Cape Bullhorn, or will your clan stay in Dragonstomb(the main town, has copper and stone nearby, more people around means more commercial traffic as well)?
Also, do you want your faction to be a clan(several bloodlines that stick together, usually hereditary or electoral succession) or a professional union(proper guilds are still a bit beyond our development, but we can still have a union of craftsmen and such).
The human clans gathered in Dragonstomb. A large boulder was brought and shaped to become the Lawstone - on it are written the laws of our people, crimes and their punishment, how we are governed.
The mysterious priest has settled down in Kulargar and begun preaching the word of his Gods. He appears to be able to cast magic spells, the likes of which no shaman has ever seen, without the aid of any artefact or sacrifice, which he uses as proof of the power of those Gods he speaks of.
Year 55
>>Population:4420 humans, 470 goblins, 570 demons
>>Food production:7/10
>>Food stockpiles:7/10
>>Resources:8/10
>>Morale:8/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks
>>Economy: improving fishing,advancing agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture:writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 130 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Other
>>353133
Can I have some info on what the original troop of demons that came here have? Like if they own any land how many fight and and their leaders name? I'm thinking of making a faction about them focusing on the original demon group.
>>353134
Well it makes sense to put down everything.
The clan makes most of its money to survive by planting the ingredients to make potions to sell to others/explorers. Malt's great grand father found the tomes while farming, and slowly over the years learned a few spells that lets him raise enough money to buy his own land and start his clan. Many of Malt's elders died at the last big battle, leaving the clan with a fraction of it's shamanistic power.
With Malt's leadership, the clan moved and created a new village to the east. A new village that lacks amenities but space for limitless expansion.
The clan's back bone are their shamans and alchemists.
Assets
>Village of Nayte
>Alchemist Lab
>Vast amounts of land around the village to expand
>Fertile gardening soil
>Tablets of dark magic
Wants the rise of the shamanistic power, prays to the dark god
Magic is their bread and butter, Alchemists are those who didn't cut it as shamans
>>353150
I think i'll build an alter soon then go for mass producing magic potions soon.
C
Let's make an aqueduct
To all you playing my Civ thread quest, there seems to be a problem, I can't run more than 3 active threads at a time, and none of them have been Archived yet, so we have to continue from the first thread. Sorry for this inconvenience my players.
>>353159
Rolled 41 (1d100)
>>353153
Roll for clan exploring west searching for interesting things to kill.
>>3531513
>Which factions wants to do something together
>Make a fire temple
>Anti-Demon Party
>Pro-Human Party
Any factions want to work together we can help each other in return
>>353153
I appreciate your patience, I still want it in Cape Bullhorn because it's unexplored and as such, ripe for pickings. I was thinking a mixture of both in a way. You know how Venice had the Dogedom? I was thinking that in a way, 5 families who have a patriarchal head of house and power is translated to actual goods, but for game-rule sake, clan. Also our shamans worship Earth, Sea and Ancestors.
Rolled 33 (1d100)
>>353153
Alright I'm going to start building a temple for the fire element in the volcanic Island
Here is my roll anyone is welcome to help me.
>>353153
>second row from the bottom
>' SATAN '
You can't fool us, demon!
Anyway, this turn we're going to dig a well for Seashell Village. If we already have a well, then we launch another expedition west to the lake.
Rolled 68 (1d100)
>>353153
H. Build An alter to the dark god of old at Nayte
>>353176
I just want the greenlight from Bulgar before I begin making decisions and choosing what to do. I feel like I gotta iron out the details.
Rolled 29 (1d100)
>>353178
>>353183
I think Bulgar already gave you a green light, just roll to help me, and when you go exploring for a good mine my people will help you.
Rolled 36 (1d100)
>>353190
Alright, rolling for helping Tor with fire temple.
>>353190
Mind, helping with the dark god alter, we've got a good roll. But All the help we could get would be appreciated. And I am ultimately looking to bring all of the gods to look on us favorably again. Just looking to get the dark gods power first then move on after he tells us how we can regain their favor.
Goes for anyone really. Any help is appreciated.
Twice now, we have had poor luck when trying to explore the western forest and the lake - our people mutter that it must be haunted by dark spirits, or complain that our armour is not sufficient. I would be very glad if another human faction would join us next turn on a joint expedition.
>>353207
Will I've roll already, and my clan really don't like the dark god, since it a pact made with blood. But if it's not with the dark god I could help, if their something for me.
>>353155
The original demon warband came in from the west. They number 500 and are led by a big guy named Fernius. Demons have strong bodies and strong magic affinity, but they can not naturally reproduce and were never on good terms with any of the old gods, which makes them rely on sacrifice and artefacts to power their spells. A demon is made, not born - a mortal signs the pact with a demon and drinks from their blood. If they survive they transform into a demon over the next 48 hours. Pacts only work given consent - free will and self-determination is something that demons value a lot and covet - they don't like being ordered around to do something they don't want to. Demons have long lifespans and could possibly live forever, but usually die of violent causes, quite commonly from fighting another demon.
Fernius is strong, wise and charismatic and has led this demon warband for 30 years now. They've roamed the lands and grown their numbers over time. Under his leadership infighting is no longer a cause of death, only injuries and hurt feelings.
Demons are strong and make good builders, craftsmen and laborers. In this warband about half of the demons focus on fighting and training most of the time, while the other half is more peaceful and has contributed to our economy, building strong stone houses for the warband in Dragonstomb. Demons make poor farmers, hunters and fishermen for some reason.
I have two ideas for a demon faction
>Demonic warriors(led by some tough guy, not Fernius though, he leads the entire horde)
>Demon craftsmen(think of some fancy name, maybe something about masons) - these guys are tough, but enjoy the finer things in life - arts, crafts and pleasant company. They are good builders, masons, smiths and artists - they like to make interesting and beautiful(by their standarts) things. Don't like stuff like mining and chopping wood so much.
>>353212
We would be happy to, maybe we together can find a pure human colony?
>>353212
I would like to help if you'll be willing to allow some of my clan to settle with you. Pure humans of course.
>>353207
We're happy to help with dark magic research, and dark magic in general, but we're not really about following deities. We can help with the construction of the altar, but we'd not interested in helping out with the worship or favor-winning.
>>353216
I say warriors! Nothing like a good challenge, Har!
>>353232
Otag would you like to help us Me, Goy, and Poets clam explore and settle a pure human village together?
>>353216
I like the Demon craftsmen
>>353231
Great. Roll for it I guess.
May be better than my roll. Also I am thinking of Expanding the gardens so we can push out more magic potions, and help with all kinds of magic, across the board.
Or do you recommend focusing on dark magic research for the next few turns.
>>353216
>>Demon craftsmen(think of some fancy name, maybe something about masons) - these guys are tough, but enjoy the finer things in life - arts, crafts and pleasant company. They are good builders, masons, smiths and artists - they like to make interesting and beautiful(by their standarts) things. Don't like stuff like mining and chopping wood so much.
I like the idea
IMBORAND RULES FOR CLANS :DDDD
Let me make something clear, a rule to keep things balanced.
If you have a faction, every turn you must choose either to work on your own project. work with another faction on something or to vote on the civ's development. ONLY ONE.
This is in the name of balance, let's try it out for a while.
>>353168
All right, green light's yours. You got a village in Cape Bullhorn and some folks residing in Dragonstomb as well.
>>353226
You've got the green light
>>353247
I thought that would be the rule, I am helping Tor with his temple. I gotta 36 however...
Rolled 7 (1d100)
>>353252
Fear noy i shall salvage this calamity!
Rolled 45 (1d100)
>>353247
Rolling to explore the western forest and hopefully find the lake, and claim it as the site of a pure human colony split between us three factions who have decided to explore it.
Rolled 10 (1d100)
>>353244
Rolling to help with the Night Stalkers' altar to the dark god. We're more interested in working on securing Nayte for right now, but soon as you start working on independent dark magic, we'll be all in. We live in the same town and nobody else much likes us, friendo. You're about the only humans who tolerate us, ,so wherever you go, we're coming with.
Rolled 39 (1d100)
>>353259
Helping Poets set up a colony and a place within it.
>>353216
Faction Name: The Free Masons
Ever since moving to dragons tomb they've been able to focus on their crafts easily and contribute and bring wealth to the demons with their creations. Their on good terms with the night stalker clan and some of the goblins including the clan which is now known as the demonic league, however they've been facing opposition from some of the other clans in the village. Many in particular love the art of smithing and architecture.
Assets
>land in dragons tomb
>Many demon craftsmen
I'm not sure if I should have more assets or not but I'll see if you green light it.
>>353263
>Dark gods strike again
Don't fuck with the dark gods, they're like inky but as an entity that doesn't post.
>>353269
I'm going for a more open society in our area. Can't turn away a good profit if it comes our way. Gonna wait for Bulgar to post to do a development roll in our area.
>>353279
Want to help us set a human colony that your clan can be a part of?
>>353283
we'll can't roll til next turn and i'd rather work toroward making the Godric Isle our common capital hold.
>>353279
lol, well I was hoping he got more than a 68. but still I got the 68 and with his help. Should get something decent done.
>>353273
We welcome all who wish to come to Nayte and expand. We have fertile lands, and silver mines to our north. With goblins being the major miners, the goblin union is on good terms with us as well.
>>353282
It's not turning away a good profit, we could find some good resources on the exploration.
>353289
Also that a good idea since my island is pure human, if the demon and goblins ever raise up and take over that can be a good stronghold.
All right, so for the turn(Year 55), the tribe has chosen
Construction
What should we build? Pick one or two(will take more time)
A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
B.Improve our infrastructure
C.Improve resource-producing buildings
D.Improve agricultural buildings
E.Improve defences
F.Other idea(if a faction wants to ask the civ to support their construction project, you can also try this. Promise something in return and you may get enough support)
>>353299
>A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
>E.Improve defences
>>353299
B
If I am gonna be a producer of raw goods, we need to hook up a road my way.
>>353299
F. Shipyards for bigger boats so we can explore the seas
C
>>353299
A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
B.Improve our infrastructure
>>353299
>A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
>E.Improve defences
So what do you think about my Faction?
>>353299
>A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
>E.Improve defences
>>353313
It's pretty good.
I did need a faction of master smiths.
>>353299
D
E
>>353299
>A
>E
>>353273
I like that, greenlight.
Your skills will definately be sought after by other factions who want to build stuff. You can use that for your own gain - have them support your agendas, amass wealth from being paid for your skilled work - be creative, set goals, dream big!
>>353299
>A.Expand the fighting pit, make it a proper arena with spectator space and rooms for the fighters
>E.Improve defences
Rolled 71 (1d100)
>>353320
Rolling to Build the Godric-Notajo fort on Godric isle.
>>353329
well I am not sure what became of our alter.
But What are you interested in doing next?
I am thinking of Inviting the Free masons. And expanding the village.
>>353313
Having a few skilled masons and blacksmiths would be great for tools,armors, and weapons. Also for the future of Nayte of course.
Rolled 39 (1d100)
>>353349
I still think we need to wait after this turn, if not supporting with this roll
Tell us Bulgar when we should roll to limit prerolling
>>353349
We're trying to only do one thing per turn.
Every anon or faction. Can either support the civ or help another faction out. cuts done on less things going on at once which is good. Less clutter, at least that is a good reason. unless that is for next turn. which you should just save for the next turn.
>>353358
well he did announce the year so i took as if this was a new turn.
>>353365
Well we'll see if it works, if not then Bulgar should explain things in his next post.
>>353350
Between a 68 and a 10, I'd say it got done but not very well. I say invite the freemasons, and get to work on expanding Nayte's influence. Maybe prospect for some mineral wealth of our own, since all we have is our quarry, which has a bit of copper and a lot of rocks.
>>353379
So long as the naytes can supply us with materials to work with we'll happily aid you and the naytes in future projects. That way we all benefit.
>>353295
B AND E
>>353385
All the stone you can eat, friend! You'll always have a place in town if you ever tire of Dragon's Tomb.
>>353358
Only roll once per normal turn(the ones that start when I've posted the civ update and given the many options). If you want to do something of your own/help another faction out.
We've traded with the Kulargar to get a stockpile of marble for our finest masons to use. We haven't found any deposits of marble within our current domains yet, though there could be more hidden riches underground that we've yet to discover.
We've expanded the defences of our settlement. With the help of the demonic masons, Dragonstomb is now defended by proper stone walls! All the other settlements have nice wooden walls, with towers and gates.
The demon masons have used the marble we bought to expand the fighting pits, building a nice arena, with a flat central area that is covered in smooth sand(that helps absorb the blood) and two levels for spectators that surround the fighting pit. There's underground chambers in which weapons are stored and fighters can rest and train.
This is without a doubt the most impressive building we've ever created, visitors from the Kulargi tribe are truly impressed.
The Kulargi seem to be very distrustful of the demons though. They were skeptical when they first met them, but had no previous knowledge of them. Even though the demon community hasn't really done anything particulary strange, the Kulargi have not only not gotten more used to them, they've become even more wary. Maybe it's that priest? His popularity is rising, many in the tribe have accepted his faith in the last 4 years.
I'M MAKING FACTION ACTIONS AN OPTION NOW, USE IT IF YOU WANT TO ADVANCE SOME PROJECT OF YOUR OWN OR SUPPORT ANOTHER FACTION
Year 58
>>Population:4800 humans, 500 goblins, 570 demons
>>Food production:6/10
>>Food stockpiles:6/10
>>Resources:8/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,advancing agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 140 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
Rolled 87 (1d100)
>>353426
>H.Faction project
Time to build the Godric Isle fort.
For now it'll suffice for it to be small.
Rolled 46 (1d100)
>>353426
>>H.Faction project
Shrine to the dark god at Nayte
>>353426
Before I vote, would anyone require my people services in return for a reasonable offer they would give in return?
Rolled 60 (1d100)
>>353426
>H.Faction project
Rolling to support my faction
I'm this turn going to help build a fort at my Isle since Obelix is helping. But next turn I'll help the poets clan explore a new place. For now can people help me with my fort it can be a pure human home, if anything thing goes down we can go their.
>>353434
With the Natajo's help, Godric Isle now has a fort with a small stone perimeter, a strong wooden wall with stone reinforcement, several towers and some longhouses and a large hall inside the walls.
>>353426
>A.Food production & growth
Rolled 70 (1d100)
H
Capture dissident goblins to sell as sacrifices
>>353426
>A.Food and Production
Rolled 93 (1d100)
>>353426
> H. Faction project
Rolling to build stone walls around Nayte
Rolled 62 (1d100)
H. Faction Project
Search for deposits and immediately begin work of mines.
Rolled 14 (1d100)
>>353426
>H.Faction project
Gaining Demon fighting experience by fighting them in fighting pits.
>>353448
Did you include my help or do you take the highest roll from the people helping the faction?
>>353426
OP, have we founded our colony now? Unless anyone objects, I propose we call it Lakefound.
Or do I have to roll again?
>>353463
Poets, sorry I didn't help you this turn. Obelix helped with my fort and I couldn't leave him hanging. I'll help supply/found the village next turn.
>>353426
Bulgar i wanted to ask how are we standing on horses. Do we use them in the military or just from transport. I was thinking if making a faction wich is centered on husbandry(i had horses in mind) or if that isnt available then general agroculture.
>>353457
Nice, with that roll, there should be plenty of room for growth.
I was thinking of building a barracks here at Nayte. So my fighters and your warriors can train and have a standing army to push any enemies that could come from further east.
>>353460
We've got a situation.
It's obvious that it would happen with so many rolls at one time.
Demon uprising fuck.
Also Inky how should we name the fort?
>>353476
Good call, we can do that next turn. Sorry I didn't help with your roll, didn't see it until mine was posted.
>>353445
I would be interested in the expanding of Nayte. of course lodging for your faction and a place of equal rights.
>>353482
I don't know, but I trust you can come up with a good name. Something that means being pure since it's a all human island.
>>353488
Would you like us in charge of creating the barracks or do you have something else in mind?
Rolled 59 (1d100)
>>353463
Rolling to establish our shared colony
>>353426
Assuming that we've founded Lakefound as a joint pure human town, we fortify it with a fence and pointed stakes, and dig a well.
>>353495
Well we should now have damn good walls.
I was thinking of living quarters for us all. I plan to make this a city for all.
But Barracks could easily go first. Have village guards, to deter crime and raids of any sort.
Rolled 15 (1d100)
>>353502
And if we haven't founded the town yet, then this can be our founding roll instead of our well and fortification roll.
>>353490
I'll propose "Dragonslayer's last stand" ,"Dragonfort" or "Smokyhold". since it's on a volcanic island.
I'm not good with fantasy names.
>>353504
Sounds good! Now how do we divvie the rolls between the three of us?
Rolled 83 (1d100)
>>353426
>H.Faction project
Rolling to create a barracks in the town of nayte that the nightstalkers have requested us to create.
>>353502
>>353501
>>353510
I'll help you two guys next turn to build up the town, but for now your clans are welcome to come to my fort if the demons, goblins, or the dark magic human rise up and try to take control.
Guys I think we need to form a anti-Demon party the demons are getting stronger at this moment.
>>353511
>Dragonslayer's last stand
I like this to be the full name of the fort
>Dragonfort
This be the short hand version.Want to form a pro-human party. Helping the other human factions when they need it?
>>353514
Well seems our barracks problem is done.
>>353517
We seems to be having a food problem that may come up soon. I think We could get an aqueduct, expand the farms, and increase living quarters. Should have many more of all kinds of people moving to Nayte.
Increasing trade and just available man power.
What do you guys think?
>>353525
I'm fine with the idea of such a party as long as it doesn't forbid us to help other people as well sometimes.
I'm not anti-demon though i do share your concern over their growing influence.
>>353463
You got it, will include it in the next map update.
Lakefound village and its surrounding territory is split between the goy clan, seashell poets and Godric.
>>353462
Eh, it was a team effort. I started writing before I saw your post, but I'll count it this time as well.
>>353473
Few in our tribe ride horses. We use them for transport, they pull chariots(only military use at present), carts and(somewhat primitive) ploughs. It's the same for the neighbouring tribe.
>>353460
Your fighters all got blown away(metaphorically, none were killed, though some were maimed). These demons are so strong, some people are starting to use "as a demon" as a description of something that's just too much, or too hard.
"It's tough as a demon's back, this armor, trust me!For 100 silver Dragonmarks it's yours"
"Hey, you had enough Dragonmarks yesterday, what happened? Got robbed?"
"That fucker Ygran wins like a demon at dice. He probably cheats like a goblin, that fuck."
"What's a goblin ever done to you?"
"Fuck demons and fuck goblins. I'm moving to Lakefound, it's all humans there."
>>353532
Like I have said, so long as we are provided the materials and compensated we'll happily aid any projects you wish us to create.
>>353539
I got a pretty good roll on searching for ore veins and sources. Was gonna start centering industrial area around the first mountain where we found ore, like a symbolic beginning. By the way ALL are welcome. Demons, Goblins, Humans we don't discriminate.
Rolled 72 (1d100)
A - food
What should we improve? Last time we discovered the uses for salt as a food preservant.
Pick one or two
A.Improve our crops
B.Improve our herds
C.Improve our hunting
D.Improve our fishing
E.Other
Also, I'm rolling for the number of humans that will convert to demons this turn.
>>353525
With all due respect dude, all we've done thus far is make a coliseum for everyone, attempt to provide clean water inland before being shot down by the water godling, and promptly leave town and build a fortified town for all the spooky people to live in, since nobody likes us. The two demon factions rn are a bunch of jack-of-all-trades do-gooders and craftsmen. I really don't get what you're afraid of.
>>353553
>A.Improve our crops
>B.Improve our herds
>>353553
B
E start drinking milk
>>353553
> A
> B
I want to make sure we're nice and sustainable
>>353553
B
D
>D I also want to improve fishing industry since I am on a coast
>E Search for salt deposits
>>353553
>C.Improve our hunting
>A.Improve our crops
"DEMONS!"
>>353553
Fishing! :D
Wave Chasers
Followers: Some Fishermen who pray before and after the fishing.
Relations: Seashell Poets are providing poems which function as prayer in return for protection blessings.
Assets: Resplendent Wave a Sea-Serpent Nymph godling, with portfolios of fish and water. Temple in Dragon's Tomb. She appears on the dragonmarks currency.
Weaknesses: No monetary resources.
Spells: Hydromancy Lvl 3, Fishomancy Lvl 1, Water Breathing, Water Purification, Holy Water, Fishery Blessings
Active Blessing: Holy Water
>>353553
>A
>B
Demon influence increasing everyday, it's getting dangerous now
>>353550
Right, forgot about your roll, was gonna answer it.
You find marble deposits southwest of your fishing village(GIVE IT A NAME). They're not too massive, the Kulargi have more, but you've started building a quarry. You've got the rights to the quarry as you founded it, but you can allow other workers there if you want or keep it for yourself(Your current population would only be able to extract a portion of what can potentially be obtained). If you want to lease mining rights to another faction, discuss it with them.
>>353553
>A.Improve our crops
>D.Improve our fishing
>>353556
That's what the demons say all the time, but you'll just wait for your time to strike. You'll just waiting for more demons to get stronger and stronger. Just stay in you town and stay away from the Godric clan. If you try anything I'll fight back.
But for now just stay at your little town.
>>353576
Wave if the demons ever try anything against us human will you help us? Also I help the poet clan most of your followers, start a pure human town.
>>353556
That power you gain comes from somewhere. I do not trust that it comes from nowhere.
Also, I sincerely doubt you can build an aqueduct system more efficient than "Appoint a priest to Wave in each city that wants free clean water."
>>353553
A
B
>>353525
We would be very happy to join a pro-human alliance with your people.
>The poets with their ocean shells,
>Their swords, their sand, their drums and bells,
>And the men of Godric, and of GOY,
>Set off west at break of day,
>There to found a humans' town
>Between lakewater and the ground,
>Surrounded by the forest boughs.
>They named this pure new place Lakefound.
>>353586
Considering that my last spell purchase was "holy water" and I put a blessing on the Seashell Poets, what do you think?
Resplendent Wave senses a dark pact over the souls of demons, regardless of their behaving right now. There is a reason the light gods particularly hated them.
>>353603
Good to know that. Also thanks for all the help you did. I at first had doubts about you, but I guess I was wrong.
>>353578
Towns name is Tholach, after a venerable ancestor who was a fierce warrior as well as fisherman.
Attention to all factions:
The Steenbaard Hegemony has called out to all able-bodied workers and intelligent foremen to help in the production of marble, paid compensation will be made. Also, any fishermen are welcome to settle down in exchange for a 5% fishers fee out of every profit. You will be working with our men and women in the field and ownership will still be under Steenbaard rule until further notice. You can reach us by port at the far northern tip of Cape Bullhorn and a shipwright will meet you there for inspection.
>>353618
Uh... I am a water/fish goddess... But I have undertones of life, growth, healing and purification. I really don't want to be named the Drowned.
>>353618
Trueborn Dragonslayers
Cause we killed the dragon not the gobs or demons
>>353621
You should see about getting the goblins as labourers, currently they've been the ones mining in the mines and supplying everyone their ore. Thats so far thier main place in this society.
>>353592
Tell you what, seeing as we're trying to work for the benefit of all, we'll let you know if we ever find out there was part of the demonic contract that makes us all some kind of sleeper agents. Far as we're aware, it just means we detest vegetables, had to give up any connection to any kind of god, and are significantly worse at farming. We just don't understand your prejudice, especially given that the League in particular was human just a decade ago. We really are on the same side here.
The idea with the aqueducts was to grant greater control over the water, to allow for storage in cisterns, better irrigation, fountains, baths, and greatly improved access inland, for when we inevitably expand beyond nearby water sources, all stemming from a point or a series of points of purification administered by either you or your priests. It'd be less work and more benefit for everyone. We respect your decision to not allow us to help you do what we thought you were aiming to, but we just don't understand the wanton hostility, even after we offered to pay upfront and handsomely. How can we prove that we want to help, Ms. Wave?
>>353636
It's more like a free call out to any citizen who wants to make a name for themselves. It's also a sort of welcome wagon to any faction who wants to acquire wealth but is more open-minded to the idea of goblins and demons as well as humans.
>>353644
It's not that we hate the Demon, it is just that you're too good and the population see that and an action must be taken to countre balance this fact by reducing your reputation so that less people turn Demon.
You should see this as flaterring really.
>>353647
We can't really help you there as demons dislike mundane tasks like collecting materials, but if you ever need something built or loads of equipment made feel free to tell us.
>>353621
We've a quarry of our own, full of stone tougher than any you'll find around that we'd love to share with you if you'd allow us to use a portion of your marble. Granite for marble, harvested by our own workers. How about it?
>>353644
It's not that we hate the Demon, it just that demons are known to be evil, and are turning humans into demons.
>>353647
You should really think about it. Cause goblins are really picking up. op said there were about a thousand goblins over a decade ago. he just hasn't really updated the population. So there are bound to be many. I may start to employ some for farming and wood gathering and such soon.
Alright making a vote for our alliance's name.
Since we'll be called like that by everyone other people can vote i guess.
>A.The Sea Dragons
>B.Trueborn Dragonslayers
>C.The Purity Alliance
>D.Human Dragonslayer Alliance
>>353644
How to prove that you want to help? Not the question.
Unless I knew for 100% there is no taint on your souls, I would not trust you. And my senses as a godling are telling me you are anathema, only your own because the dark powers have not come to claim their debt yet.
>>353629
>>353642
>>353643
I don't mind an egomaniac name (I am Resplendent wave of the Pearlescent Sea), but it doesn't correlate to the ocean.
Purity Alliance also doesn't correlate to the sea.
Sea Dragons work, but we have more triumphs than simply the slaying of the dragon.
Glorious Union of the Pearlescent Sea?
One thing I worry about is the pro-human-ness. I'm more anti-demon. I sense no taint on the souls of goblins... They're just weird and a bit monstery. But I'm was just a sea-serpent nymph before becoming a godling.
>>353674
Our logic is simple, nothing is free. Your power comes at a terrible price whether you know it or not. Thus, you must be purged
>>353661
>>353668
Aw shucks, we've necessitate d our own smear campaign!>>353663
We have, because all they've done so far is make a bunch of sacrifices and generally try to figure out why the gods, and the dark god in particular, left us. We don't mess with deities of any kind, but yeah, we're totally fine with dark magic. Even have an affinity for it. We've got nothing against you, but it's easy to see why you guys in particular wouldn't like our methodology much.
>>353675
Glad to hear it! We'll begin trade and cutting immediately.
>>353678
We respect your decision, as always, but we really wish you would at least give us a chance. Hopefully we can work together in the future, for the good of the tribe.
A&B - crops and herds
We've grown our fields and pastures, bought some chickens from the neighbours, started making dairy products from cow and sheep milk.
We've expanded our fields, started growing more fruits and vegetables to add a variety to our diet. We've developed more tools and make better use of our animals for working the fields. Turns out their excrements make the soil more fertile, huh.
Years pass by, population increases.
Year 63
>>Population:5250 humans, 570 goblins, 620 demons
>>Food production:8/10
>>Food stockpiles:7/10
>>Resources:8/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,medium agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 150 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
>>353703
So were the projects we helped the Naytes with built?
C. Construction
Road's don't build themselves....or, do they?...
Rolled 80 (1d100)
>>353703
>H.Faction project
Strategy change. Now OBSERVE demons fighting at pits to find their weak points and devise anti-demon tactics.
Rolled 26 (1d100)
>>353703
>H.Faction project
I'll to link Lakefound to some profitable trade convoys.
>>353703
so..What about the things that happens at Nayte?
before I make a choice.
Rolled 2 (1d100)
H
Scout for some copper
Rolled 20 (1d100)
>>353703
>H. Faction Project
Fortify Lakefound
Rolled 18 (1d100)
>>353703
>H. Faction Project
Fortify Lakefound
>>353703
>H.Faction project
Fortify Lakefound with sharpened stakes, a trench and a fence.
MAP UPDATE
Tell me if there's something I'm missing!
Rolled 9 (1d100)
>>353742
>>353733
He does but he needs to confirm if we have them at least. Cause the 68 when we we worked together to build the alter don't know if we got that.
So once we get the confirmation it will work out.
The barracks and fortification should have worked perfectly but we still need the green light from him.
>>353733
Its better to get confirmation from him, that way we dont think it was made but it wasn't enough and vice versa.
H. Faction Project
What with how like 75% of the factions involved in the anti-demon alliance are fishing/island/coast based, I'd like to start enchanting shrines to maintain fishery blessings across our much wider areas, and develop my fish magic further.
>>353749
Ok we're boned.
Rolled 46 (1d100)
>>353703
H
Can a anon help the factions?
Help lakefound
Rolled 65 (1d100)
>>353761
Let's see if I can keep up the stream of 93s.
>>353743
If quarries are getting labeled, then there should be a granite quarry on the east side of the river that we own. May or may not have a smattering of copper in it, thanks to an 87 I rolled when prospecting for metal in it.
>>353757
>>353752
Fair enough, I just feel bad for the bastard, with all the factions doing shit at once.
>>353769
Yes, you can.
>>353772
Good job doing work, while most of us failed
>>353773
I think things will get better when the factions cleanly split into two/three alliances.
And then worse when they declare war on each other.
Unfortunately, I actually have to go.
Someone take over, any anon will do. Sorry about this.
>>353718
The head seems to be a demon's biggest weakness. Those who fight each other only go for the head in desperation, it's one of the few unwritten rules if you want to be respected by your opponent in demon dueling that the face is off-limits.
Big horns sometimes help with blocking hits, but can also be something to grab on to.
I'm having trouble keeping up with all of your individual projects desu.
Link me to successful rolls and projects so I can confirm them.
>>353777
Since when can anon's help a faction roll?
We more than welcome you to make a faction though. Human factions are popular.
>>353769
Anon helping a faction would be just non-faction folks helping them, migrating to their settlements or whatever.
>>353784
Oh boy, can't wait to see how combat gets handled.
This is genuinely the best kind of clusterfuck, man. Normally I hate when quests allow this kind of thing since it encourages endless tripfaggotry and special snowflake-ism, but this has turned out to be pretty balanced, and the main plot and civ are still advancing. Really pleased, desu. Also pls no war. I just want to do science.
>>353791
Nayte now has a nice barracks and strong stone walls. You managed to find a decent quarry nearby that made logistics easier.
>>353769
>The factions failed to fortify,
>They wondered they even try,
>'TIll anon rose and with some sticks,
>Rolled to help, with 46.
>>353796
Fuck it lets just explore
>>353811
Next turn, we have to wait.
Rolled 62 (1d100)
>>353703
>>H.Faction project
Seeking the dark gods patronage at the alter.
>>353800
Coastal settlements all have shrines to Wave that allow an attending follower, versed in magic, to cast lower-level fishomancy spells without her having to come over personally.>>353801
The Free Masons have contributed greatly to Nayte's development, building an altar to the elemental God Darkness.
The shamans still can't sense him in any way, but it's a nice place otherwise to grab a beer, discuss alchemy and Darkness.
>>353789
When a bunch of anons voted to build me a temple and put me on our coinage. _3
>>353787
Here you go. I'm enhancing shrines for fishery blessing magic, and upping my fishery blessings in general. Rolled a 63 (By the old skill system, enhancing Fish Magic to lvl 2 and getting an enchant power). Proof below.
>>353761
>>353772
Alright, potential Sea Dragons/Human DragonSlayer Alliance/Glorious Union of Pearlescent sea, we need to make a definitive list of what our name is, who's in the alliance, and create a "combined assets" sheet.
So that we can present it in one bloc to the overworked OP, so he can take us as a group when he considers "Wow, a pretty high percentage of people hate the demons."
Rolled 29 (1d100)
>>353703
>H.Faction project
Since a majority of demons are im Dragons Tomb, I roll to create a great hall for the crafts demons to have a place to gather and to share any newly discovered techniques and to craft their creations. Humans may partake also should they want to come.
The demons will appreciate thise who help this project.
>>353831
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DfG82EMu9gMFK2RBllP6e_JbTYb8cL-lV6Z79uU684E/edit
Here's a google doc for our faction to talk on. If I did it wrong, let me know.
I propose a faction project truce next turn.
No turn projects.
We should focus on our tribe as a whole sometimes.
>>353846
the main problem is that the file isn't public.
Rolled 25 (1d100)
>>353835
Should probably actually remember to roll
>>353851
I think I fixed that, at least for getting in. Got a Buffalo and a Dolphin now. Is editting enabled?
>>353703
Clan Erden
Long before the Great Storm shamans of clan Erden utilised earth elements to better agriculture, and even more than other shamans they felt great affection to the earth and all the beings that dwelled on it. But after the Great Storm they found them self cut off from their magic and the elements they fell into disarray. Those couple of years after the Great Storm were trully dark for clan Erden, they lost all their prestige they built trought the years, almsot all posesions they owned and almost turned to begging to survive. But then in the darkest hour of clan Erden the youngest son of the clans former leader Ulrich rose up and took over the clan leadership. He said that he still feels the connection to the earth and that the connection stayed in the hearths of mebers of clan Erden. He promised to make clan Erden great again! He took a loan from clan Goy and bought farms from other clans and viliagers. Connecrion to earth and the creatures that dweled on it still ran strong trough the veins of clan Erden. Will clan Erden retake its place in society or will it perish and be forgoten in the tides of time.
>Asets: lots of farms outside of Dragons Tomb and Firsthold,small estate in Dragon Tomb,great affection to earth and earth magic
>Goals: Short term is repaying the loan to the Goy clan. Long term is retakong its place in society and gaing a monoply on agirculture.
I will wait until Bulgar greelight this. Also i would like to know if Clan Goy is okay with me getting a loan from themI added that part because i could think of another way for a fallong house to get money.
>>353884
Let's explore west.
Jesus man, all the faction projects
From now on the rule is as follows - your faction may not do projects two turns in a row!
With the various factions within the tribe focused on their own projects, no general advancement is made in a while.
It's now year 68 and Chieftain Luwerg has passed away.
Someone has to take his place
If you are a human faction and want your leader to try his or her luck at the Spring Contest, give me a 1d100 now.
If you're an anon but don't want the factions to have too much power, you can also give me a 1d100 roll for some unaligned dude that tries his luck at the Contest.
At the end I'll also roll for some unaligned dude.
The candidate with the highest roll will become chieftain!
If you want to get the support of someone else(they'll have to refrain from having a candidate of their own) you can ask them for their support, maybe promise them something if you become chieftain.
If you want to support another candidate's efforts, roll a 1d7. Your roll will be added to theirs as support.
LET THE CONTEST BEGIN
>>353870
That's a great faction and I hope to see more like it, as agriculture is the backbone of our economy.
Green light
>>353888
I got trips, but forgot to mention something
ALSO GIVE A NAME AND DESCRIPTION OF YOUR CANDIDATE
for fluff
>>353888
I assume demons can't support factions either?
Rolled 44 (1d100)
>>353888
Say no to non-humans today!
>>353900
This is for the chieftain of the humans.
Demons have their lord Fernius and individual communities within it have their own leaders.
Same applies to goblins.
Rolled 49 (1d100)
>>353888
>SCHLOMO SHEKELBERG FOR CHIEFTAIN
>Exile or slaughter those demons, cant trust em
>Trade, trade, trade
>Invite the holy man
>Enslave Gobs
>Alliance or better with the Kulargi
Rolled 78 (1d100)
>>353888
Rolling for my leader to be chief fluff later this
Rolled 43 (1d100)
>>353888
Oops.
Rolled 2 (1d7)
>>353922
Supporting Tor of Godric
>>353915
I will support you for chieftain if you release us from the loan we owe you.
Rolled 59 (1d100)
>>353915
>>353901
Well I don't appreciate the sever anti anything else. Since we all just want to come and be prosperous together I will throw my hand in the race.
>>353888
Rolling to lead.
I promise to be fair with everything as i can. Only major rule I have set in for will be Faction will only be able to work on their own project once every three years.
>>353934
Sure, sure, your loan isn't that much any ways
Rolled 6 (1d7)
>>353945
Okay. Rolling to support clan Goy.
Rolled 2 (1d7)
>>353941
Rolled 1 (1d7)
>>353941
I don't want to get stuck with anti bullshit/racist again.
And wasting time focusing on one faction of bullshit.
>>353955
I am a man of my words. Clan Erden is still weak and hasnt fully recovered, the thing we need most now is friends.
>>353888
btw can you fix the goblin population? should be much higher since it was higher than 1,000 last thread.
Rolled 3 (1d7)
>>353922
Anon for Godric. I like to see what a faction cheif will do.
>>353970
My clan is shamans an alchemists. I am sure we can figure something out.
My clan has been farms for ingredients for generations now. And We've nothing but land and fertile soil.
>>353922
Seems like you will win baring bulgar wins with some one unaffiliated. Would you mind implementing a rule So we only work on factions once after x years. to keep us moving forward.
>>353986
That was already implemented.
I have a question how do I make a faction?
>>353991
Think of a backstory that fits within our civilization(the only magicians we have are shamans, the only gods we know are the Elements, there's also Wave, of course). Give them some location they are centered in from the existing settlements, maybe. What is your faction's primary occupation, what are your short- and longterm goals - stuff like that.
>>353870
Here's a really nice example
And you keep a tab of your Assets, notable things you have - farmable lands, villages that you own, heroes, etc.
Don't make it too OP, let it make sense and most importantly - have fun!
>>354009
Thanks, I'll try to make one.
Rolled 17 (1d100)
Godric's leader(still waiting for fluff) seems to be the strongest candidate, with 83 points.
Now rolling for the neutral nice-guy Baugar, a candidate from Bullcoast.
>>353989
I have a proposition for the mighty god Wave. We wish to build an irigation system that will boost our grain output and help the agriculture in general. We are hoping thaz Wave,being a water goddes, will help us in our project(Most of the farms in ancient history were near great ribers and had some sort of irigation). In exchange we promise that we will give 5% of our collected crops to Wave and her folowers for 4 harvest cycles.
>>353986
>>353837
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1igot-hoTvFSjDmBtGO4DyJpXbjWuJsdXrmIshlxYeE0/edit?usp=sharing
Get in here nerds, they have a secret club, so do we.
>>354026
Um, OOC, do we have the technology for irrigation yet? I don't think that's something one or two factions would develop.
Also, what's your opinion on demons? I'm afraid I have an embargo on humans who associate with them.
Godric's leader has been chosen as Chieftain of our tribe. Count that as an asset. Your votes now count as 2, since you're the chieftain and you have a certain authority. Overstep your bounds or prove yourself unworthy and you may find your position challenged next Spring.
Remember the new rule! If you voted H last time, you're not allowed to do it this turn. If everyone does H and there's not enough votes for something else, time passe by.
Year 69
>>Population:6000 humans, 620 goblins, 620 demons
>>Food production:7/10
>>Food stockpiles:7/10
>>Resources:7/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,medium agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 160 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
>>354024
As much as you tried, you've recieved no visions and no messaged from Darkness.
>>354015
Oh yeah the Fluff, due to old age Tor of Godric passed on his dream of being a clan and leading the clan to his son Wolfe.
He was born on the island the clan settled on, and grew to know the values of farming, fishing, mining, and fishing. All from being on the island.
Tor son (Since Tor has been alive for 40+ years) is really popular with the humans with his message of being pro human and making the tribe great again, better than ever.
He was able to gain support of some human tribes due to his father support and win the right to be called chief. He want to make the tribe the best tribe he think it could be.
He thanks everyone for their support, and will welcome us to a new golden age.
>>354034
Fluff
>>354034
>E.Government & laws
Supporting Godrics new legislation that's incoming.
>>354034
>>D.Military
>>354034
>>D.Military
>>354034
>>D. Military
>>354034
>C.Construction
Next turn I'd appreciate if the Daemon league or the Night stalkers help me with the great hall. Also I I dont think pursuing contact with the dark god would really be feasible since they abandoned the people but thats my opinion.
>>354034
>E.Government & laws
The chief has called for a review of the laws of the land
>>354034
E. Government and Laws.
>>354033
Hmmm. Well for the technology part we could argue that we are atleast advanced as ancient Mesopotamia or maybe Egypt so i guessed that will be okay, i will check with bulgar. We in clan Erden have a strong bond with the elements(for the most part earth) and we dont find Demonic magic appealing and we dont have interest in fighting or training soldiers so they physical power is worthless to us, and they suck at farming.
>>354049
Done and done, friendo. Better workshops help everyone.
>>354034
E
Making a faction is hard, so I'm just going to vote
>>354049
Considering this would be a faction roll. I think you should wait till next turn. I can full endorse you then. Either way seems like E is going to win.
>>354034
By the way, this happened.
Faction-Bloc:
Name: The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea
Members: Resplendent Wave, Auberyx of the Notajo clan, Tor of the Godric clan, Seashell Poets, The Goys
Notajo Assets: Traders/Dragonfort/Godric isle’s/Seashell Village/Lakefound/lods o money/inky’s luck :^)
Resplendent Wave Assets committed: Fishery Blessing shrine/priests. Embargo on blessings for demons or those who associate with them. Holy water moat for the seashell poet guys.
Godric Assets: Village of Godric Isle, Village of Inkport, Mine of Godric Isle, Trading port on Godric Isle, Fort on Godric Isle, Port of Godric Isle, Port of Inkport, fertile farmland on Isle, Lots of land in Inkport.
Assets of the Seashell Poets: Seashell Village, fishing boats, farmland
Goy Assets: Great wealth, lots of lands, marriage with neighbour, basically jews, lakefound village
Policy: Pro-Human, Anti-Demon, Mixed-Disposition on Goblins.
>>354034
Bulgar is it okay that Wave and i make a project about irigation? Taking into account that she is a water goddes and that we have been taking care of earth for a long time and that we plan to better the agriculture both for our clan and the whole civ.
>>354069
I was saying For next turn, but thanks for the support should my roll not be high enough.
>>354034
>E
>>354073
My help would have to wait until next turn (there's a cooldown on faction actions now), but with your amiable ties to Goy who just joined the Sea Dragon Union, I think I'd be glad to help.
Vote is currently 2 in favor of E.
>>354058
We rely on the river for irrigation, but could do research into agricultural techniques(either through A or G).
We're now developing our government & laws
What should we do? Pick as many as you want!
It's good to give suggestion in detail, that may earn you support for your proposal.
A.Improve laws
B.Change our government type
C.Develop bureaucracy
D.Develop law enforcement
E.Other idea
>>354098
>E.Demon-free zones.
>>354098
>D.Develop law enforcement
>B.Change our government type
A democracy
>>354072
I like this, it takes a load off my shoulders and makes things interesting.
Good to see this sort of thing, blocs aren't mandatory, but certainly add flavour
>>354098
>D.Develop law enforcement
>>354098
>D. Develop law enforcement
>>354098
>D.Develop law enforcement
>A.Improve laws
>>354098
E. Demon Free zones along the coast and any territory we trade with our brother tribe in the north-east. They don’t like the demons. And Wave doesn't either, what with the whole, promising to drown them thing. Gotta keep good relations with our neighbors.
>>354098
>E.Demon-free zones.
I'm going with demon free zones, since their are humans and some goblins that don't like Demons at all.
With this law in place it will limit the tensions with the races, and lower the fights that could break out.
Also this demon free zones along the coast and any territory we trade with our brother tribe in the north-east. This will get our neighors to like us more since they don't be scared by the demons.
Keep up good relations with our neighbors
>>354119
Huh, it's almost like we were reading the same script? :P
>>354114
>>354036
Simce irigation can be improved through research and food production i have new and more ambitous proposition. Us 3 could developt the lands on Rodric island making it into a self sustaining island(its an volcano island making it rewlly fertile). This way the food will always be stockpilled and sllow Rodrick island to survive without help from the mainlandmight help in a event of a siege if shit happens.
As a sign of good will i will support the Demon-free zones.
>>354098
E: Demon free zones
>>354139Goddamn my spelling is shit,sorry for this i am on my phone trying to type the fastes i can.
>>354098
>D.Develop law enforcement
>>354139
Godric island, but nifty, thanks Ulrich!
>>354139
Thanks Ulrich,
>>354119
I'd like to bring up, that demons are not disturbe liked by any goblins. So that's just false.
As far as the north east that's true because that priest is spreading what we assume is hate for demons.
And as for humans that's only specific clans that have hate for anything non human.
Can we not go full hitler and keep your stuff together.
>>354139
you're welcome to The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea If you want.
Woo! Original goblin faction her so here are my assets:
1/5 of the goblin population
goblin ghettos
>>354160
There's also the godling who preaches "Hey, I can sense a taint on their soul telling me they're anathema."
And there are five factions with different ranging views on the goblins, who are also non-human, and generally don't have any set policy for/against them. But they've united against the demons.
>>354160
I'm not going full hitler (It's RP)
Also I talk to the the Demons and reached a agreement with them.
I'm not going to have they killed, that'll ruin the fun of the guys playing their factions. (Pretty good RP by the way)
(It is RP guys, it's for fun)
The Daemon League, speaking on behalf of itself and the Nightstalkers, have come to an agreement regarding territory and Demon conversions with the Notajo and clan Godric.
We will not look to settle further north than Nayte, or convert any humans of any known tribes, and look to settle to the south exclusively, on the condition that we be left in peace to pursue our own goals, and still contribute to the progression of the society.The Free Masons are welcome to join us, if they so desire, but were not included in deliberations.
>>354160
Dude the original group and the QM started on /pol/, if you didn't see this coming I don't know what to tell you. We didn't put up the stone walls at Nayte for nothing.
>>354098
CHANGE GOV TYPE: We want elected mayors of each village.
We've given a dozen reliable men the training, equipment and authority, granted by the chieftain, to be enforcers of the law (SUGGEST SOME NAMES FO THESE DUDES). Their efforts are focused on catching criminals, guarding the newly-enforced demon-free zones and whatnot. The enforcers may command some of our professional soldiers if need be, but are not expected to go out to war away from the tribe, so they're not part of the army.
We've revised some old laws and written some new ones, particulary in regards to our two new implementations - demon-free zones and law enforcement.
The demons are unhappy with the tribe's decision.
Most of the Kulargi tribesmen have accepted the priest's teaching about the "New Gods".
Year 70
>>Population:6150 humans, 650 goblins, 620 demons
>>Food production:7/10
>>Food stockpiles:7/10
>>Resources:7/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,medium agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 160 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
>>354165
I will gladly accept. I will provide the Aliance with lots of food and my breakthrought in agriculture are shared with everyone, but i offer very little in terms of production(anything not connected to agriculture atleast) and of military.
>>354173
Jesus I didn't even know our fellow goblins lived in poverty
We need to push for better living conditions or some sort welfare for less fortunate gobos?
>>354187
>>D.Military
>>354160
We're not going full hitler, we just like those big, stinky demons away from or kids thank you
>>354187
>F.Exploration & colonization
Let's go exploring to find new land for our tribe.
>>354187
>>E.Government & laws
>>354187
H.
The Goblin Workers Union is petitioning for the goblins to keep some of the tin they mine. Please vote:
>A:No
>B:1/5
>C:1/4
>D:1/2
>E:All of it
>F: We'll pay them a wage.
>>354192
Actually, the GWU petitioned and built a goblin ghetto. We have comfortable living conditons, and the new houses are made of clay.
Rolled 36 (1d100)
>>354187
>H.Faction project
Since a turn has passed since I last tried I should be able to do a project right?
Once again we will try to create the great hall in Dragons Tomb, there the demons may gather and share their crafting techniques and their creations. Goblins and humans are welcomed to join also.
>>354212
Wow, the dead god of the volcano really disagreed with me. :(
Sorry Ulrich!
>>354177
In our defense, you were just a magical fishperson when you showed up, Ms. Wave. You wanted only a place to stay and to help the community, and those humans who would form the League supported your bid. We want exactly the same, and built our own place to stay. For all the 'taint on our souls', you're the one who seems to be dead set on conflict.
>>354187
>F
>>354203
F.
I hope they like fish.
I might be consistently late, but I think my faction could have interesting impact on the plot that civ bulgar could utilize.
I want to create "The Knights of Solomon"
The basic fluff is that a few clans that have historically contributed many great chiefs and were close to the god of dark decide that demons must be a creation of the god of dark in order to fight the degeneracy of the lesser elements. Their general belief is that the god of dark created all sapient beings, but others were turned astray by the other elements. In an attempt to save his creations, he created the demons to act of their own will, uncorrupted by worship of incapable deities. They elect a leader, who all will be named after the first man to welcome the demons: Solomon. They act to ensure that the demons are protected within society so long as their actions are in line with the dark god, and make efforts to convert others to dedicating their lives to the dark god. While many demons find the cult's faith silly, some who have embraced the culture of the Rog tribe are moved by the sermons and help them act from the shadows. Many have taken to call them crusaders, because of the fervor of their sermons and dedication to their causes.
They number around 110 humans, and 30 demons.
Assets include loyal demons, faithful berserker-like warriors, and wise clan leaders, as well as a small amount of farmland from the founding clans.
They are stationed mostly in Dragonstomb, but have small sects throughout the lands.
Rolled 45 (1d100)
>>354216
Sorry, lost track of which turn it was. Change from F to >H
Rolling for Great Hall with Masons
>>354203
>>A:No
>>354203
The wage is the currency by the way. WE DO HAVE CURRENCY.
Rolled 19 (1d100)
>>354187
The enforcers should be the dragon Teeth.
H Scout for a new copper mine
Union and maybe demons assist me. We don't want to be boxed when they will call for us to be purged.
>>354187
H; Gobbo tin petition
Rolled 29 (1d100)
>>354187
>H. Faction project
Making Godrick island self sustaing by building farmlands on the fertile soil of the volcano island.
Rolled 24 (1d100)
>>354187
H
Helping Ulrich I want us to have lots of food
>>354234
Seconding Dragon's Teeth for the name.
Also, by the way, Wave will side on your side if there is ever a call for a purge. She's one of the more pro-goblin on the Goblin issue inside the Sea Dragon Union.
>>354250
You guys must be cursed or something considering you ALL consistently get shit rolls.
Um so...
Last 2 threads I was the only Goblin faction.
So can the other gobbos reply and explain their factions? Also, can you vote >>354203
>>354203
A. Never goblins
>>354203
A
No tin for goblins
>>354220
I wasn't even magical when I showed up. The humans gave me my power.
Also, I'm trying to add something for OP to play on. Aka, the God vs Demon conflict. As Wave becomes more and more of a God, Demons seem more and more wrong to her. She doesn't know why, but as she gains more traits of the gods, she feels the demons are more and more wrong. She's assuming that's because they're something wrong with them, not with her. But she could be wrong.
>>354203
>F: We'll pay them a wage.
F then
>>354280
Very well
I recast my vote to F
>>354203
>A:No
>>354272
(Was supposed to be RP, I get you, the conflict is fun. Figured that would be what QM is going for, since he announced the arrival of the Demons as a major plot point. I saw an edgelord faction and couldn't NOT join. Keep it up man, you play the role well.)
>>354227
I like this idea, you've got the green light.
>>354250
All these bad rolls are the will of the Dice God. Despite your combined efforts, you've been unable to create a working irragation system this time.
>>354244
You only had enough resources to build a decent hall, not quite reaching what you expected, but it's better than nothing. You'll be able to make it fancier and bigger some other time.
Now, for the tribe's decision
Exploration and colonisation!
PICK THREE
A.Explore the seas
B.Explore the west
C.Explore the east
D.Explore the south
E.Found a new village somewhere on the map
F.Allow people to settle hamlets(nameless settlements, grouped-up farmsteads and such) in the land between our named towns and villages - more living space, farmland and resources will be ours, but they are more exposed to dangers, which is why we'd settle only in the interior of our lands
G.Other
>>354295
>D. Explore the south
>>354295
I think The Sea Dragon Union should explore the Sea, The Demons should explore the south, and the Goblins should be allowed to expand out into the lands between their mines and Firsthold, seeing they've decided to take a wage instead of being provided shelter/food/protection and will have to provide it themselves now.
>>354295
>D explore the south
The goblin villages are south, let's hope we find allies!
>>354295
>B.Explore the west
>D.Explore the south
>F.Allow people to settle hamlets(nameless settlements, grouped-up farmsteads and such) in the land between our named towns and villages - more living space, farmland and resources will be ours, but they are more exposed to dangers, which is why we'd settle only in the interior of our lands
>>354295
E Goblin and Demon Village
A
C
>>354295
>A
>B
>F
>>354295
>A.Explore the seas
>B.Explore the west
>F.Allow people to settle hamlets
>>354295
>B.Explore the west
>D.Explore the south
>F.Allow people to settle hamlets(nameless settlements, grouped-up farmsteads and such) in the land between our named towns and villages - more living space, farmland and resources will be ours, but they are more exposed to dangers, which is why we'd settle only in the interior of our lands
>>354295
Forgot to vote, damn
>D
>>354295
>A
>B
>F
>>354295
>A.Explore the seas
>B.Explore the west
>F.Allow people to settle hamlets
Just a option but the Goblins should be allowed to expand out into the lands between their mines and Firsthold, seeing they've decided to take a wage. So good for you goblins
>>354322
If you're being paid wages, you can buy your own food. Build you own farmhouses.
Before your soul was sold to the company store, so to speak, where you worked but earned nothing, but had everything provided.
Now, you get paid. You might make enough to feed yourselves and shelter yourselves and then have left overs and grow and thrive. You might make too little and starve and die of exposure.
>>354345
We will, obviously. That's what we agreed on.
A, B & F (Correct me if I'm wrong)
We'll allow hamlets to be settled, we expect the goblins to expand in the area around and to the north of Firsthold, starting to make food of their own and not be confined to their part of town.
Now, give me ONE roll for exploring the seas and ONE roll for exploring in the west
Petition for the goblin tin mines to be opened for everyone as the goblins no longer enjoy a special position now
>Aye
>Nay
>>354356
Congratulations on graduating from forced labor to equal members of society with a near monopoly over a vital resource!
Rolled 8 (1d100)
>>354363
Go to the sea.
Rolled 1 (1d100)
>>354363
west
>>354363
Nonono!
We like the south!
The goblin villages are in the south!
Remember?
>>354370
Dice gods why
>>354378
We need something to communicate over as we're both in the same faction. Any ideas of your own?
>>354365
>Aye
>>354373
What kind of monster did you find in the west
>>354365
>Nay
>>354388
I've been planning for a while to send a wagon south to find goblin villages.
>>354365
>Nay
>>354392
i'l repeat this again, he found nothing, but something found him for sure.
Rolled 17 (1d100)
>>354365
>Aye
>>354365
>Aye
>>354365
Aye
>>354365
>Aye
almost forgot myself
>>354365
>Auto
Nay!
>>354365
>>Nay
>mixing gobbos with humans
>ever
>>354432
>Equality.
WE BUILT THE MINE YOU REALISE.
WE WERE MINING PEACEFULLY AND THEN HUMANS FORCED US TO MINE FOR THEM
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO THE KINE.
THEY DID NOT BUILD IT
WE OWN THE MINE, IT IS OUR PROPERTY!
>>354432
we will find other ways to make them shekels. for now we lick our wounds
>>354436
THOSE FUCKERS WILL HAVE TO MAKE THEIR OWN MINES.
They can use the land, but not our mines.
>>354436
This makes me change my vote to aye
WE BUILT THE TRIBE YOU REALIZE
WE WERE TRADING PEACEFULLY AND YOU FORCED YOU WAY INTO OUR TOWNS
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR TOWNS
YOU DID NOT BUILD IT
WE OWN THE TRIBE, IT IS OUR PROPERTY
>>354365
Aye
>>354436
Speaking as a person who was here since the literal first post, I remember them joining willingly for food and protection. Because we rolled bizarrely well for the diplo check.
Also, sure, its your mine. But we can work in it now. We can build other mines in the same area to mine tin. You don't have special privilege now.
>>354436
We didnt force you. We clearly gave you a choice : surrender or die . I remeber you jump onto us latching for protection. I remeber alowing you to live in the towns. We gave u wage now we want something a little in return and u shout at as! Trully shamefull!
>>354449
>You did not build it
YES WE DID. WE BUILT THE GHETTOS NOT YOU.
>
>>354436
>>354437
If you made QM adjust your pop stats, they might take you more seriously. You're supposed to be at what, 3kish right now? And besides, you're not some cave-dwelling little pack anymore, now you've got houses in Dragon's Tomb and are set to out-breed the humans pretty fucking quick. I remember when you signed on, and it worked well for everyone. Play to your strengths and make a gobbo town, dudes. Separate but equal is the theme with races atm.
The main expeditions didn't produce much results, but we've drawn a map of the things we've discovered anyway in recent years without special effort
The Kulargi tribe has grown and seems to be trading with some other human civilization to the east, from where the priest came.
To the south we've discovered three warring goblin tribes, roughly 200 gobbos in each of them
Each tribe owns a mine and they frequently clash over some gobbo going into a neighbouring mine to steal some of their ore or mate with one of their wymynz.
Year 71
>>Population:6300 humans, 675 goblins, 620 demons
>>Food production:7/10
>>Food stockpiles:7/10
>>Resources:6/10
>>Morale:7/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,medium agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 160 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
>>354457
YOU BUILT HOUSES IN OUR TOWN
YOU BENEFIT FROM OUR LABOR
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING GOBBO
YOU'RE LIKE ABBOS AND JEWS PUT TOGETHER
>>354457
We gave you the ghetos. I remeber you begging for us to alow you to live there. Many of the clan leaders where there and they remeber.
>>354461
BUILD YOUR OWN MINE NEAR OURS AND IT'S OK.
But use ours and it's not!
>>354460
>>B.Culture & religion
>>354462
Not anymore you gobbo cunt.
>>354474
Hey, I changed my vote! Don't make it look like I'm defending these mine-niggers!
>>354465
Idiot. We built them, not you. You allowed us to build near the town, but we BUILT them.
>>354460
>I.Mine conquest.
This Mine is rightfully mine
>>354460
>C.Construction
We can easily help with this.
So when are the gobbos pop stat going to be updated since everyones saying it should be massive now? So they can actually be taken seriously.
>>354460
Wave would like to consult with the Priest. See where she fits in the grand cosmic scheme. She feels like she's been becoming a god, but whenever she strays too close to certain places (such as the volcano, or the places where the Night Stalkers held dark rites), she feels that the mere echoes of the old gods far outreach her power and are still horrible and alien.
>>354460
>I.Mine conquest.
The the mines we'll be stronger than ever before.
Rolled 27 (1d100)
>>354460
>H. Develop weapon good for crushing demons heads, something with enough reach so even average sized-human will be able to hit with and won't be obstructed by horns.
>>354489
*With the mines
Also we don't have to kill them all if they surrender to our army
>>354460
>H; GWU tries to subjugate the gobo under our banner to capitalize on them mine shekels
I'll roll later
Hey hey guys.
>>354474
Whatever. The mine is mostly dried out, and we're still better miners. Our wage doesn't even decrease. You're just wasting miners, which will reduce your population of miners in your other mine, and we gave you the tin anyway, so you're paying us to help u work.
>>B. Culture & Religion
>>354460
I
Take over the Goblins
Rolled 49 (1d100)
>>354460
>H. Civilize the Gobbo tribes to the south, offer lodging in Nayte if they agree to civilize and share ore.
>>354509
They don't have to leave. It's just that we can come.
If you want to vote on forcing the Goblins out, Wave will have harsh words with your sea-trade.
>>354509
WHAT! WE DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE
YOU are ALLOWED to mine WITH us. The mines are OPEN for everyone. Everyone includes Goblins. So we still get to mine.
>>354489
I. Mine conquest
But support the copper tribe and have them become our vasals
We could always Enslave The Gobbos.
Mine conquest time
We're assembling our men to go south - we've got more than enough troops to easily conquer these gobbos, but how shall we go about it?
A.Slaughter them all and take the mines for ourselves
B.Enslave them
C.Convince them to become part of our tribe like our own gobbos
D.Other
>>354520
We may have to if they stay this uppity.
>>354521
>B
BUSINESS IS A BOOMIN'
>>354521
>D.Other
Convince them to become vassals to us, and make all Gobbos that live outside of the Goblin mine village move there or back to their village.
>>354521
>A.Slaughter them all and take the mines for ourselves
>>354521
>>C. Convince them to become part of our own tribe like the gobbos.
I want you people with your shit rolls to try.>>354524
We NEVER agreed to this!
>>354521
>C
No need to oppress nor kill innocent gobs
>>354530
Sorry I can't vote on your side this turn. :(
>>354521
>A.Slaughter them all and take the mines for ourselves
STOP RESISTING
>>354537
It's not Oppression if The Tribe benefits!
>>354521
>C.Convince them to become part of our tribe like our own gobbos
>>354543
Except it is if its on the forced labour by gobs.
>>354521
>A.Slaughter them all and take the mines for ourselves
>>354552
why should we roll?
It's a vote
>>354521
A
I'm going to vote for A
Also Goblins of our tribe, you're better than the other goblins. You have a place in our hearts.
>>354521
>A Slaughter them
>>354563
Now, now.
These new gobbos have a place in our mines.
>>354566
Yeah you're right they already dug their graves.
>>354557
Because you don't instantly do well just because the majority says so.
Civ Bulgar is gonna make you roll anyway, that's always been how it works when you fight.
>>354575
And we'll roll when he prompts us, not some daughter-fucking ,dagger-eared heathen.
>>354575
Yeah so?
They're gobbos in mines, we're the greek army.
They may have bronze, but we're coming at them full force.
They're an actual threat they have copper and tin, they must be removed from our clay.
>>354558
But goblins all together yes? ALL goblins should have the ability to become productive citizens of Rog. Imagine how'd that make us look on the international scene
Our demonic warriors were itching for a fight - they led the fight and we sustained almost no casualties in conquering the mines. We've taken it all for the tribe now, joint ownership unless some new faction is created based there.
Many of the goblins in our own tribe are upset.
Year 72
>>Population:6500 humans, 700 goblins, 620 demons
>>Food production:6/10
>>Food stockpiles:6/10
>>Resources:9/10
>>Morale:6/10
>>Buildings: wood and straw houses,stone and brick houses, sheep pens, wells,palisade,wooden walls, granary, great forge,dirt roads, docks, barracks, arena
>>Economy: improving fishing,medium agriculture,medium husbandry,improving textiles, improving crafts,bronze, horses, silver, Dragonmarks, trade
>>Culture: festivals, writing on stone, slew a dragon, improving arts, Lawstone
>>Military:Bronze-armed militia, chariots, demon warband, 160 hoplites
>A.Food production & growth
>B.Culture & religion
>C.Construction
>D.Military
>E.Government & laws
>F.Exploration & colonization
>G.Research & development
>H.Faction project
>I.Other
>>354585
>>D.Military
>>354585
>>B.Culture & religion
>>354585
>>354488
>Wave would like to consult with the Priest. See where she fits in the grand cosmic scheme. She feels like she's been becoming a god, but whenever she strays too close to certain places (such as the volcano, or the places where the Night Stalkers held dark rites), she feels that the mere echoes of the old gods far outreach her power and are still horrible and alien.
Wave did this last turn, any results?
>>354550
The priest is residing in Kulargar, where the locals have built a temple to his New Gods.
We'd have to send a delegation or invite him over.
>G.Research & development
Let's make some ships to explore the new tribe we've been hearing about.
>>354585
>G.Research & development
let's get some greekfire and better ships.
Also ballistas could be cool as well.
>>354585
>F. Exploration
Time to find slaves.
The more we have to build with the faster we can do some cool building projects.
>>354597
>invite him over
Rolled 73 (1d100)
>>354585
>H.Faction project
Now that we have a base to the great crafting hall, we will use some of our wealth aquired from doing jobs for the people to purchase marble and stone to enlarge and make it more grand.
>>354585
>G. Research & development
Better transport to travel further than chariots and carts can take us.
>>354597
Yeah, and Wave spent an entire year to travel there (more like a couple days because Kulargar is a coastal city) and ask to meet him. Wave is a local goddess, so I'd think he'd be interested in the convo. Or did he refuse to meet her?
Rolled 43 (1d100)
>>354585
>>H.Faction project
The Goy clan wishes to mine copper
>>354585
Research & Development.
Wave likes more ships! :D
>>354585
>H
I will be claiming the copper mine that we have recently conqured.
>>354613
Where are they?
>>354620
you forgot the roll.
>>354622
The farms? There are some outside of Firsthold and Dragons Tomb.
>>354631
Is the wage higher than the mine?
Rolled 72 (1d100)
>>354620
Forgot to roll
>>354637
You are a mine worker correct? If so the pays are the same as a miner.
R&D time
PICK TWO
A.Horse riding
B.Better boats
C.Agricultural methods(irrigation)
D.Better tools and stuff
E.New military experimentation
F.Natural science
G.Magical science
>>354648
>A
>B
>>354648
>A.Horse riding
>C.Agricultural methods(irrigation)
>>354639
You've claimed the copper mine. You can send your clansmen there to work or hire gobbos if you want to. They're the most experienced miners around, while your clansmen are good farmers mostly
>>354648
E
B
>>354648
>B.Better boats
>F.Natural science
>>354648
>B.Better boats
>F.Natural science
>>354648
>G
Sacrifice some folks to them Gob Gods for them sweet magicks
>>354647
Sure. All 140 goblins in the GWU are now working for Ulrich outside of Firsthold while the women and children prospect for gold by the river.
>>354648
>A.Horse riding
>E.New military experimentation
>>354648
>B
>F
>>354648
>B
>F
>>354648
B and F
>>354658
If sacrificing folks isn't illegal, can we please make it illegal?
Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>354654
Weren't there TWO mines we conquered? That's the reason the gobs were fighting for in the first place correct? Seeing as how Ulric over there laid claim to one of the mines, I'd like to lay claim to the other, in the name of GWU
>>354675
You either just discovered something magic or a shit load of iron my green friend.
>>354675
Nice crit
>>354648
People that voted faction project shouldn't be allowed to vote in follow-up vote as well, I think.
>>354675
You've already voted this turn though luck, nice roll tho :^)
>>354648
>F.Natural science
>G.Magical science
>>354671
Why? And don't bring up ethics when our tribe just exterminated two gobbo tribes for minerals
>>354675
Bummer on wasting that roll.
>>354689
Because Resplendent Wave was solidly against that as well?
I am hiring goblins to work in my copper mine. The condition are the same as when the goblins had in the tin mine alongside good wages and a meal.
>>354681
I've never been so triggered in my life
But at least I got that sweet role
>>354697
Nono, we work on field.
>>354675
Fucking nice.
Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>354700
rolling can be fun as it's own game but i will agree that it's better if it earn you a whole mine.
>>354705
What the fucks goimg on!? TWO 100s in a row!
Rolled 27 (1d100)
>>354675
Our first 100, folks
The goblins of our tribe have taken over the tin and stone mines we recently conquered.
>>354664
You've made the great hall you originally envisioned at last.
B&F on research
We've designed stronger ships that can travel further and faster - biremes!
We've started studying the sciences of the natural world as our wisest men discuss matters of philosphy and mathematics and seek to apply theory to practice one day.
Now rolling for Main Story event
>>354705
HAX
>>354705
Holy. As soon we aren't rolling for actual things, the 100s come out.
>>354705
The gods favour us this turn
>>354713
Um, did you not note that it was an illegal roll? He had already voted. He can't do a faction project and vote.
>>354703
Sure, but there is the other goblin faction plus other goblins who curently arent in any factions.
>>354713
yeah even if it's a 100 both 100 doesn't count he already voted for something else.
you can't do H and vote i think.
Jesus fuck guys
Okay
Didn't see it
Doesn't count
Tin and stone mines are still communal
>>354740
It's okay, bulgar. You're doin' great so far.
Also we got our first and second 100 in a row, 1/10000 odds.
We should seriously reflect on this for a moment.
>>354746
Indeed we should.
>>354740
Thats a massive shame to waste that 100, but since there were TWO 100s in a row there should at least be some massive event because of the fucking odds of that happening.
>>354754
If Bulgar had rolled a 100 that would have been 1 in million, you have almost as much chance for that to happen than to have your heart on the right side of you chest.
>>354746
Let's do something to reflect this event. A vision for GOD or something really big. This never happened in the 70+ thread we had before
>>354746
I think Wave's probably gonna commemorate the event by slinking under the old pier and hugging her aquaman pillow crying over how the fancy new gods don't even want to meet her.
>>354763
yeah that's two separate votes.
but you can't vote two times on the same vote or vote
>>354763
Yes, you can. You're voting on something that you did not choose as an option.
A ship from Kulargar has docket at Dragonstomb. From it a party disembarks - several elite Kulargi warriors, clad in bronze armor and wielding spears, swords and shields and a rather old, but healthy-looking fellow. He is wearing a simple robe and holds a wooden staff.
He introduces himself as the priest Svetnal. He has spent the last two decades converting the Kulargi to the faith of the New Gods.
He displays his powers, casting a spell that creates a globe of light, moves it around some then has it dissapear. One of the Kulargi warriors cuts his own palm and gives it to the priest, who promptly casts a spell that seals the wound.
For several hours it continues and there's no signs of him using any artefact - our shamans sense very little magical power stored in his staff, not enough to fuel those spells that he keeps casting.
"I have come to spread the word of the True Gods. Ask what your soul wishes to know and you shall have an answer."
>>354791
Will the humans go to hell because they slaughtered those Goblins in the mines?
>>354791
"Do I have any relation to them? How do they feel about magical beasts that have become godlings? Do you already have a goddess of fish and water, or is there room in the pantheon for one more? Why do demons and places connected strongly to the old gods feel so wrong?"
>>354791
Will I be the richest person in Rog?
>>354791
What is the will of the Gods you speak of?
>>354791
I'm chief
"Who is your god that grants you mightily powers?"
"From where did he come from?"
>>354791
What is the true nature of Demon-kind?
>>354809
*"From where did you come from?"
"Are the Demon kind really evil, with in them?"
"How may one process powers like yourself?"
>>354809
>I'm chief
You don't get to bring clans man.
He work for the masked druid, the holy man.
Alright we'll bring them aboard the ship.
lots of loyalty for a priest.
he didn't swim so good who wants to try next?
I think he's wondering why a man would shoot a bow before throwing him offboard.
>>354791
What does your god offer us?
Can we also learn that kind of magic?
Is your faith organised(do they have a pope)?
>>354791
Why is our magic dead?
Should we purge the goblins and demons to restore them?
Are demons allowed to live?
>all the fucking heretics and heathens itt
>>354828
It's not dead! You just have to get it from me now. :(
>>354836
But where do you get it from?
>>354838
From you.
Magic is wieeeerd.
>>354838
Worship, nigger. Weren't you paying attention last thread? Speaking of which, any factions wanna convert to my cult?
>>354840
Sounds like meme magic to me
>>354841
Nah our faction bloc already worship wave try your luck with the demons.
>>354843
Fishomancy!
>>354841
It was a big jokeFor you :^)
>>354844
I'm accepting all takers, senpai. Although I can't promise that we won't try to drive Wave away. She is corrupting our people. If she declared herself a servant of dark, however, it'd be a different story.
>>354845
Warrior fish spirits when?
>>354844
Demons don't worship by definition, which really fucking sucks, 'cause spookybloc is awful lonely right now. Can only BUILD WALL for so long before you get a little bored.
>>354854
That's not true. They tend not to worship, but you can, which is evident by the fact that bulgar greenlit my cult which includes some demons.
>>354854
just go to arena for your bloodthirsts
>>354854
Kidnap and sacrifice some children like demons do
>>354791
What does your True Gods teach it followers and what are the True Gods laws.
>>354865
Gobbo child snatchers already in that business. We need to monetize that too. We'll snatch your kids you don't want for that sweet moneys
>>354867
Glory to the Sea God!
Water for the Water God!
Coral for the Coral throne!
HEAL
EXTINGUISH
DROWN
May the Tide never turn!
>>354854
Well you could always build other intresting things like how I basically made an awsome great hall to share ideas and provide demons a place to gather and make things. Basically a big crafting guild.
>>354858
Perhaps you could undertake a project to createan area or worship for your cult or use the project to try and convert the populace.
>>354809
The Gods of the Holy Pantheon are thirteen in total -
>Abagar the Wise
>Charodei, Lord of the Arcane
>Batahl the Trickster
>Drana the Healer
>Mor, Lord of Death
>Kovag, the Smith
>Stoman, the Warrior
>Zemel, the Farmer
>Ezdar, the Tamer of Beasts
>Divata, Lady of the Wilds
>Juras, Lord of Justice
>Gyolas, Lord of the Seas
I am a lifelong servant of the Pantheon. I hail from the east, from the Human Kingdom of Patrias.
>>354805
To bring order, unity and peace to the world after such a long period of darkness.
>>354802
The first demons were spawned from hell and it is those demons that led the attack on your mine and did the most killing. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, the cycle continues. Unnecessary violence is a sin and life is sacred.
>>354803
You are similar to the dragons. Those who do not know the words of the Gods sometimes take to worshipping beings such as you. The people of Patrias were forced to worship a trio of flaming dragons and their demonic allies, but the Gods gave us the power to defeat them.
Though you may not harbor ill-intent, you are not a true God. Gyolas is Lord of the Seas and I shall pray that he make his will known to you soon.
>>354871
Not as nifty as a salmon killing machine. Or a fucking shark on legs. Water can't beat that shit
>>354880
Goddamnit I wanted my fortune told not a rambling about dragons and dust will I be rich or not
just got here what I miss
>>354880
Disgusting. I say that we ban the worship of this religion in our realm. If the kulargi disagree, then we shall have to make them see the light(or the dark)
>>354887
Read the damn thread if you want to find out.
>>354887
Racial tensions and gob slaughter. Welcome back cent
>>354887
lots of faction happening.
Basicly Inky and me as well as Goy/ulfric and wave fucked every other faction :^D
>>354858
Forgot about those 30 who joined up. That's actually kinda neat. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. Nayte's big, beautiful wall is always open to you and your cult, Solomon. The Night Stalkers are sure to welcome any help with worshiping the Dark god.
>>354896
sorry I'm late my phone ran out of data so I couldn't post while I was out
>>354880
The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea shall accept this pantheon if Wave is accepted as the wife of Gyolas and Queen of the Sea.
Wave would like to take time in communion with the priest to arrange this before hand.
>>354880
"Cool, that'd be awesome! I'll just keep water purifying and fishery blessing stuff till then. I like the sound of this, what with 'unnecessary violence' being bad."
"Some of my followers are already saying I should marry Gyolas." Wave gives a wink wink nudge nudge. "So, to humor them, is he single?"
>>354804
Wealth must only serve as a reward for honest work and to be used as a tool to make trade easier. It should not be a goal to pursue in and of itself, such are the teachings of the Pantheon.
>>354806
The Gods reside in the heavens above and their power is supreme.
>>354811
Demonkind is a relic of a war from centuries ago when the gates of hell were opened into this world. Those gates were shut, but some demons made it into this world - the original demons, they are called.
Demons defy the will of the Gods at every turn. Their acts of depravity, their violence and blasphemy are all affronts to the Pantheon. Any boon they may have given you is but a temporary lure for the purpose of claiming your souls, condemning you to eternal hell.
>>354825
Those who are earnest in their belief and diligent in their studies are granted the gift of magic from the gods. Our earthly faith is led by the High Pontiff of Paitras - the one who is most in touch with the Pantheon.
>>354828
Goblins are not inherently evil, unlike the demons. Goblins may be savage, scheming and treacherous by nature, but they posess the spark of clear conscience that humans have as well.
Demons must not be allowed to spread their taint. Those who would agree never to do so may be spared, though their souls are forever condemned to Hell.
Your magic is dead because you worship false idols of deities that no longer exist. The only true Gods are those of the Pantheon.
>>354918
Further talks will be had.
Is this all you good people wish to ask?
>>354918
"See, they're already getting ahead of me. Come on guys, don't put that on me. I'd like to meet him first."
"But yeah, the pantheon doesn't seem bad. What kind of service do they want from us? Sentient being sacrifice is right out, but I get the feeling you don't do that, right?"
>>354922
>Demons Evil
>We've literally haven't done nuffin yet here
I'm not sure I like this guys tone.
>>354922
Well, shit. I guess we'll just have to use our supernatural-soldier powers for good.
>>354922
Yes. I tire of their presence. They have arrived here only to insult our gods and the people who have put their hearts and souls into our mighty tribe.
>>354922
I have a question.
How do we ward off evil magic or weaken evil magic? Like the ones Demons and others may have.
>>354939
Nah, if people want to be one we'll let them, meanwhile this guys outright saying were bad just for being a demon and having a pact when we've already done much for the people here. I'm with solomon here regarding this guy.
>>354922
Who rules the kingdom of Paitras?
How big is the kingom?
Are there any other kingdoms similiar to Paitras?
>>354941
Is our chief actually taking these insulting claims legitimately!? You are spitting on our gods and ancestors!
>>354922
Holy shit remove religion now calling for holy crusades
>>354952
THANK YOU. You're alright, for a gobbo.
>>354939
We agreed not to recruit, and not to convert humans from Rog or Kulargar. Self-determination is kinda our deal, so if others ask, we'll let them join. Doom is a pretty sweet ride so far, not gonna lie. The whole "functional immortality" thing is pretty fun. Plus, the more demons for the league, the more science. :^)
>>354953
Do not let this man convert anyone and send him on his way. We've endeared enough insilt , to me and our tribe
>>354955
Your lifespan was 120 years, I thought.
>>354960
The chief should look into this "king" idea, and figure out what exactly a "kingdom" is. Sounds interesting, and a little more advanced than what we've got going on here.
>>354955
Also we're going to honor our agreements, since a Godric keeps their word.
>>354960
Don't push it Wolfe we already have Ulfric on our side.
>>354964
No the oldest one was 120 and even he wasnt sure how long he will live.
>>354960
He is insulting the demons by saying that they are inherently evil and they are tricking us with their contributions to our society, and insulting us by proclaiming our gods as falsehoods! You are clearly lacking in wisdom, chief. A virtue my people are famous for. Allow me to advise you. Can you not see through this facade?
>>354964
Thats the oldest one when he first cane to us, he's still alive and kicking as the leader of the hoard making him older now. They have no idea whats the max age but we can assume they're functionly immortal.
>>354975
They also said that wealth should be used for good purpose
>>354964
Nope, that's the max we've observed so far. Nobody's actually dropped from age yet. Nothing mentioned about visible aging, either, so effective immortality seems to be the rule, though the violence usually displayed by non-league demons usually seems to claim most pretty quickly.
>>354966
And we intend to honor ours. Not looking for any trouble, but pretty soon 70~someodd daemon scientists is gonna get wimpy, so we will eventually let other people join. Just not humans from Rog or Kularg, as agreed, and we won't settle further north than Nayte ,at any longitude, as agreed.
>>354981
Let me do the talking here.
(((Forgot to mention one of the Gods, Domna - Lady of Hearth & Home)))
>>354925
The Pantheon condemns the old practice of sacrificing living beings to fuel magic.
Honest prayer is all the Gods demand and in return many blessing will be yours, you will learn much and be able to live better lives, provided you follow the ways of the Pantheon.
>Thou shalt have no other Gods beside those of the Pantheon
>Thou shalt hold sacred life and not take it in vane
>Thou shalt not sacrifice souls for any purpose
>Thou shalt respect thy elder and obey thy laws
>Thou shalt recognize the limits of the Heaven, Earth and Hell and never seek to cross those limits
>Thou shalt seek to act towards others as you would have them act towards you
>>354941
The magic of Domna, lady of Hearth & Home, is the magic of protection against evil spirits.
>>354948
Paitras is ruled by King Batrian I, annointed by the High Pontiff as is the will of the Gods
To the east of Paitras lie the dwarven realms.
Most of the lands in the south are unsettled.
to the north, on the other side of the Godsjaw sea, lie the tribes of the northeners, human heathens.
We've had contact with elven explorers from the northeast as well.
>>354960
Chief Wolfe, if you were to accept the will of the Pantheon, you would be given the blessings of the Gods and the title of King.
OP, you're probably gonna need to call a vote on how we respond as a whole to the pantheon.
Like
A. Pantheon is super welcome, here, let us make you the religion.
B. Pantheon can try to convert people, but it's on you to do so.
C. Get out.
And
A. Oooh oooh, can Wave be part of the Pantheon?
B. Wave stays.
C. Finally we can be rid of the fish.
And
A. Yes, kill all the demons!
B. Uh, we'll say they can't pact any more people, but they stay.
C. The demons can do whatever they like.
>>354985
>thoses echos
are you trying to say something to us Bulgar?
>Chief Wolfe, if you were to accept the will of the Pantheon, you would be given the blessings of the Gods and the title of King.
Oh boi HERE WE GO
>>354985
You can clearly see he's offering this "blessing" so the chief will try to convert the populace. Not only that by accepting it you are clear as day condemming us demons.
>>354988
>A. Pantheon is super welcome, here, let us make you the religion.
>A. Oooh oooh, can Wave be part of the Pantheon?
>B. Uh, we'll say they can't pact any more people, but they stay.
>>354988
>B. Wave stays
C. Get out.
C. The demons can do whatever they like.
>>354985
Don't fall for the promise of false titles. Their offer of Kingdom is like paper gold. It is worthless to them, and only holds meaning to one who craves it desperately. We are the only authority needed to declare ourselves a kingdom, and should not bow to any authority.
Also, no god should tell us where the boundaries of exploration lie. If we desire the heavens, we shall settle the heavens!
>>354985
I Chief Wolfe of the clan of Godric, will be honored to accept the will of the Pantheon, may they bring everyone to the light.
>A. Pantheon is super welcome, here, let us make you the religion.
>A. Oooh oooh, can Wave be part of the Pantheon?
>B. Uh, we'll say they can't pact any more people, but they stay.
>>354988
>Get out
>Wave stays
>Demons can do whatever, PROVIDED they hold up their end of the bargain
>>354999
NONE OF THE ABOVE
IMPEACH CHIEF WOLFE
>>354985
>Thou shalt recognize the limits of the Heaven, Earth and Hell and never seek to cross those limits
"Awwww..... I've been wanting to ride a whale into the space between the stars ever since I became magical.." Wave pouts.
>>354988
>Get out
>Wave stays
>Demons can do whatever, PROVIDED they hold up their end of the bargain
Solomon just explained what they are, I can only hope the rest can see that.
>>354988
A
A
B
Time for some new gods
>>354988
>A
>A
>B
>>354999
TRAITOR! HEATHEN! GIVE HIM TO THE SALTY BRINES
>C
>B
>C
>>354988
Gyolas will take you as wife. He himself can not come down to the Earth, however.
How do you wish that to happen?
Only Wave votes on this
A.Be transported to Heaven to reside by him for eternity(Your faction no longer has Wave physically around, you will be followers of hers)
B.Have it be ceremonial, but you must stay here for as long as your physical body lasts
C.If you can't be with your husband, the deal's off
So, let's call several votes for the others.
1.Will we accept the Pantheon as our religion and reject the Old Gods?
A.Aye
B.Nay
C.Kill this blaspheming priest in the name of the Elements!
2..Demon factions vote on this
A.Agree to not spread demonblood further(Your presence will be tolerated, but your numbers will never grow)
B.Reject that proposal(if the tribe accepts and joins the Pantheon's faith, well, oosh)
>>354988
A
A
B
>>354999
Wolfe buddy, let's not forget that this guy came outta nowhere and started decrying everything we've been doing here since literally day 1 of year 1. You really wanna be recognized as a 'king' by some random fuckers to the east, who, thus far, have managed to send one pithy missionary? We've got the beginnings of demon fire magic, Wave's water magic, and a basis for continuing both, not to mention the research the Night Stalkers are conducting. PLUS, Solomon's cult is working on talking to the Dark god. He's got party tricks. Do you really wanna bend a knee to party tricks?
>>354988
C
abstain
B
>>355018
>B.Nay
B.Reject that proposal(if the tribe accepts and joins the Pantheon's faith, well, oosh)
>>355018
>C.Kill this blaspheming priest in the name of the Elements!
B.Reject that proposal(if the tribe accepts and joins the Pantheon's faith, well, oosh)
>>355018
Can't vote
>A.Aye
Can't vote
>>355018
>A.Aye
Glory to the Dragonwolf!
Glory to the new gods!
Glory to the The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea!
>>355018
1.Aye
New gods
>>355018
>Abstain
>B
This fucker's outlived his welcome
>B
We made a deal, and intend to honor it fully. No converting people from Rog or Kularg. To limit us forever is just plain cruel, especially given we never tempt people or lie to them about the pact. Wouldn't be self-determination if they didn't know everything when they agreed to it.
>>355026
I hate you.
>>355018
>B.Nay
>B.Reject that proposal(if the tribe accepts and joins the Pantheon's faith, well, oosh)
We will not refuse to pact a willing human simply because you're being swooned by a foreign missionary.
>>355018
>C
>A
>>355036
you're not a demons faction you cant vote on proposal 2
>>355018
>A. Aye
>>355033
I thought only Gobbers were the Jews here, you know sneaky, mischievous, traitorous and greedy?
>>355048
Goy faction, dude.
>>355001
You can vote for that after this.
> B. Convert
> B. Wave Stays
> B. No more pacting.
Wave would prefer to know more about the gods before committing.
>>355018
"Wow.... that's a super ... heavens... Um..."
"I... I'd love to, but that's my romantic side. My place is here. I am Resplendent Wave of the Pearlescent Sea. That's here, right in my name. And I probably shouldn't marry someone I've never met. May I simply remain as a protector goddess of this country and of this sea, for as long as I live? It sounds wonderful, but at heart I'm still a bit of a frightened fish, and I have so many who follow me here, and I couldn't abandon them."
>>355064
Convert is Aye Wave.
do you say Aye to the Dragonwolf king?
>>355064
Wow, super unclear I was there. B Convert was for the "The pantheon has to convert it's own people."
All right guys, this is an important point of the Main Story and it seems we're approaching....conflict.
This is to all the players
Are you ready for it?
Factions will have to pick sides. At the end of it all, one side will triumph and enforce their will.
Don't be upset if you end up on the losing side though! I'll seek to make it all balanced. If you do end up losing your faction, you can start another one or continue as anon.
ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE?
>>355076
Not in the slightest! But I have lots of tough friends who are. I'm sure we can do this.
>>355076
I JUST WANTED SCIENCE YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOTS.
Bring it.
>>355076
We have the chief!
We have mines!
We have forts!
We have boats!
We have the magic!
We have the power!
WE'VE GOT THE TOUCH!
Glory to the The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea!
May the tide never turn!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52--FKUQgU
>>355084
Sorries, I roleplayed too hard.
>>355085
We got the gold and redneck goblin miners. Were ready for this shit
>>355076
I like how the demons just wanted to build and do science and people went pol on them when there better craftsmen than everyone they have and were generally peaceful. Lets see how this goes.
>>355076
Well obviously the Knights of Solomon reject these pathetic heralds and their false gods.
>>355090
Gobins why do you want to fight with the demons? Fight we us and with the Gods' help we'll all be saved
>>355097
Actually he said Goblins will still be damned to hell.
Also
FUCK OFF HERETIC
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>>355090
The demons never wanted to help you, they even voted against you when you wanted to keep a monopoly.
They won't fight for you , why do you fight for them?
>>355100
Uh, no. That's not there.
He said they're more innately evil than humans, but they still possess the spark of conscience and can be good. They just have a harder time of it.
>>355097
'Saved'? From WHAT? We have done NOTHING this entire time but build and be peaceful, productive members of society, and the actually warlike ones have formed the vanguard of the tribe's army since they got here! You're spitting in the face of every last attempt at cooperation we made, and you have the gall to claim to need saving? The fuck kind of king are you?
>>355090
Get to Nayte before shit breaks out. It's got the best walls of any settlement around and we've got reasonable armaments, and the facilities to produce more with whatever ore you can carry.
>>355097
You abandon our religion due to a simple missionary, Attempt to rid rog of demons, who did NOTHING but fight for us and craft some good ass crafts, but a foreign missionary just so happens to come by and you switch up faith
>>355100
Those are clesr lies. The priest said that goblins have a spark of good in them and they are not damned souls. Dont try to divide us at the moment we need unity the most!
>>355106
>Goblins are not inherently evil, unlike the demons. Goblins may be savage, scheming and treacherous by nature, but they posess the spark of clear conscience that humans have as well.
Demons must not be allowed to spread their taint. Those who would agree never to do so may be spared, though their souls are forever condemned to Hell.
What was that again?
Sorry that I must use your thread for this Bulgar, but its a great way with communicating with my players. If any of you are up for me to continue, I'm continuing it now.
>>355109
Let's prepare for civil war, then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gGG4fpGB_w
Every faction has to take a side now
Also, list your assets please
A.Converting to the Pantheon
>Demons who do not resist will be allowed to live freely, but won't be able to spread their blood
>We will accept the faith of the New Gods and gain access to their magic, knowledge and become a higher form of government
>Relations with our neighbours will improve
B.Reject the pantheon
>Refuse to be bound to the will of any foreigners!
>Keep the demons free
>Pursue whatever goals we want that the Pantheon wouldn't approve
>Get on the wrong side of those civilizations that have accepted the Pantheon
>And get on the wrong side of the Pantheon
C.Stay neutral in this conflict
>Regardless of your opinions, your faction does not want to fight. Whatever happens, you will roll with the flow - your faction won't be destroyed no matter what
>>355108
They're also the fact that the missionary's whole sphiel agrees with Wave, who currently has SIX factions worshipping her.
>>355114
B.Reject the pantheon
>Refuse to be bound to the will of any foreigners!
>Keep the demons free
>Pursue whatever goals we want that the Pantheon wouldn't approve
>Get on the wrong side of those civilizations that have accepted the Pantheon
>And get on the wrong side of the Pantheon
>>355114
>A.Converting to the Pantheon
Demons you cannot win we have 83% humans in our demographics.
We own All coppers mines!
You have no chance of victory here, flee, surrender OR DIE
Clarification on goblins
You have the potential to be good just as much as humans, even if your natural inclination is different. This goblin tribe has adapted to life together with humans, so you can join any side [spoile]Though I'd imagine staying (((Neutral))) would be most profitable for you[/spoiler]
>>355111
>hey guys just abandon our gods and listen to the people that showed up and called our religion bullshit and also fuck the demons that have done nothing but good
>WHY ARE YOU DIVIDING US OMG UR SO EBUL FADIJFL:NDAJFKL:DSANJFKAL
fuck off
>>355114
The Knights of Solomon reject the pantheon. Our assets are the wisdom of our clan leaders, farmland, demons, dedicated warriors willing to die for the dark, and the blessing of the dark.
>>355108
We didnt have a religion except Wave and she is accepted. The only thing we are getting rid of is dark magic and the dark gods. The priest says that there is salvation for your race if we walk the way togheter.
>>355114
.... I really want to be neutral, but all my followers have chosen to convert. I... Guess I'm going to be drawn into this war...
Converting to the Pantheon.
Name: The Sea Dragon Union of The Pearlescent Sea
Members: Resplendent Wave, Auberyx of the Notajo clan, Tor of the Godric clan, Seashell Poets, The Goys,Ulrich "Bronzehand" of Erden
Notajo Assets: Traders/Dragonfort/Godric isle’s/Seashell Village/Lakefound/lods o money/copper mines/inky’s luck :^)
Resplendent Wave Assets committed: Fishery Blessing shrine/priests. Embargo on blessings for demons or those who associate with them. Holy water moat for the seashell poet guys.
Godric Assets: Village of Godric Isle, Village of Inkport, Mine of Godric Isle, Trading port on Godric Isle, Fort on Godric Isle, Port of Godric Isle, Port of Inkport, fertile farmland on Isle, Lots of land in Inkport. Marriage with neighbour
Assets of the Seashell Poets: Seashell Village, fishing boats, farmland
Goy Assets: Great wealth, lots of lands, marriage with neighbour, basically jews, lakefound village
I urge King Wolfe to call forth his allies by blood that he made through marriage to honor their call to arms in this holy war.
>>355114
C for now. I will give out loans, ore or mercenaries to only the WAVE faction. Pantheon I refuse to do business with. If pantheon tries to step on our property we will retaliate
>>355114
>A.Converting to the Pantheon
Godric Assets: Village of Godric Isle, Village of Inkport, Shared villiage of Lakeport Mine of Godric Isle (Copper and other metals), Trading port on Godric Isle, Fort on Godric Isle, Port of Godric Isle, Port of Inkport, fertile farmland on Isle, Lots of land in Inkport. Great Marriage with neighbor.
I'm going to call forth my allies by blood from the nearly village as we share the same faith. They will gladly fight with us.
>>355114
>A. Converting to the Pantheon
Lots of farmland outside of Dragons Tomb and Firsthold,copper mine, and 140 goblins who work on the fields.
>>355139
You're saying you wont have anything to do with pantheon yet you're supporting wave?
>>355114
>B Reject the Pantheon
The Daemon League's Assets:
>Town of Nayte, co-owned by Night Stalkers
> Extremely well-built stone walls surrounding Nayte
>Stone workshops in Nayte, able to produce refined stone, basic mechanisms, and various bronze goods
>Granite quarry not far from Nayte
>Marble from trade deal with faction whose name I can't remember
>fledgeling fire mages
>roughly 70 demons, craftsmen by trade, but passable warriors, slightly better than a peak human
I feel I should mention, the Night Stalkers' player isn't on right now, and they live in Nayte and are also widely disliked, for their worship of the Dark and work on creating dark magic. How will their assets be handled, given that we share a city that I assume is about to be besieged? For what it's worth, the guy who runs it saw this whole thing coming, so I think he'd reluctantly join the demon revolt, if only to avoid being a new pantheon's bitch.
>>355139
Also my assets are as follows
Tin Mine
Gobbo Ghetto
Farmers beneath Godric tending fields
Bare dish
Tin Stockpile
Embargo on Pantheon faction
Crafty gob merchants
>>355136
Wave Chasers
Followers: Some Fishermen who pray before and after the fishing, priests that man the shrines.
Relations: Seashell Poets are providing poems which function as prayer in return for protection blessings.
Assets: Resplendent Wave a Sea-Serpent Nymph godling, with portfolios of fish and water. Temple in Dragon's Tomb. She appears on the dragonmarks currency. Shrines in every coastal settlement.
Weaknesses: No monetary resources.
Spells: Hydromancy Lvl 3, Fishomancy Lvl 2, Water Breathing, Water Purification, Holy Water, Fishery Blessings,
Active Blessing: Holy Water
BIG ONE: These were her stats when she was being worshipped by 2 factions. She is now being worshipped by SIX, and has not done any major miracles or upgrades since that happened, and should have a ton of power saved.
>>355151
You are alone demons, what can you do against an army of thousands of mens?
Surrender and you punishment for this treason against the kind will be merciful.
>>355114
You guys are choosing to abandon our history and culture on the demands of others.
>>355151
Correct.
>>355164
>You''re alone
>only demons respect the old ways and won't bow to foreign gods
t. carl cuckerberg
>>355165
We shall not forget who we are who wolfe is.
The Dragonwolfe king he who is the one true king of Dragon Tomb and who will groom the heir who shall be The King of Man!
>>355165
I pick B.
>>355170
That's not neutral.
>>355176
Anon votes on faction shit is factionless people joining factions, right?
>>355173
>the one true king
>of a civilization that decides leadership based off of a contest and not blood
>>355177
Trade is no allignement in a war.
>>355176
Link it to the bulgars post so he'll see it
>>355171
>the old ways
Long before u demons came here and just barged your way in we had the power of the elememts and worshiped The Gods who have abandoned us. You wish for us to remain weak so that one day u will convert us all into demons
>>355177
I'd still not be in open retaliation against the pantheon, I embargoed them yes but I didn't call my men to attack them
>>355114
A
Can anons pick a side?
>>355184
We dont actively try to convert you guys, only if a man wants to do so we'll let them become one.
>>355114
B
We need to believe in our own gods.
We got an island, we'd got all of our holds mostly humans and following the chief.
No true human will follow demons and cults.
We've got mines, most of them in fact.
We've got boat.
We've got warriors.
We've got the royal set of dragon armor.
And we have a magic fish and a Magic priest.
>>355209
>just entered quest
>start voting
it's not because you're using your phone that we don't know that it's samefagging.
>>355209
Well this is weird. I have a new I'd guess cause I'm back but in a different place. But I've been here for a while.
>>355114
How are you going to handle The nightstalkers assets since they've always supported us. You should be aware their town is very well developed and should have a decent size fighting force due to the barracks.
>>355184
Really? That's why we've been converting everyone against their will, right? Stealing children in the night and using the elderly for all our dark sorcery?
We were humans like you, not thirty years ago. We were born and raised here, with many of you. And now, you reject us, spurn everything that we've done in the name of Rog, in the name of the tribe, for what? A senile man from across the sea? For the favor of gods so weak that they speak through a single missionary, and empower him to do barely as much as any of our shamans could? And now you make up lies to comfort yourself, to convince yourselves that you're fighting some kind of holy war. You're pathetic, all of you. Solomon is right, you're cuckolds, watching the rape of our culture and our history, our very essence, just for the first handful of party tricks that come your way.
You're a disgrace to Rog and everything he did for us. Our ancestors will welcome us into the afterlife, Traitors. What will your new gods do for you?
>>355216
Let's not start any samefagging accusations.
We'll take the tides of fate any way they fall.
Hell, starting a thread about Resplendent Wave and our boats evacuating everyone because we lost could be fun.
>>355206
These gods are not deserving of our worship. They are dead. The demons worship other dark gods and can turn on us in a snap of a finger. Demons are not to be trusted.
>>355223
>What will your new gods do for you?
What do you ask anyway you're faithless.
You'll see for your yourself what they'll do to YOU
>>355228
What? We dont worship any dark gods. They dont like us and we dont particularly care about them. Theres only 30 demons that worship something over with solomon.
>>355228
You lying kike, the only demons that worship anything at all worship the dark like us.
>>355234
"surprisingly" you're the anon who posted the less.
I think anons shouldn't vote on faction wars since they are factionless.
And realistically no true Human would be against the removal of dark cults and dark practices and the assimilation of a new pantheon that shall make us an empire like none others.
>>355246
>the removal of dark cults
How the fuck is our ancestral religion that every member of our tribe practices a fucking cult? Your nose is showing you fucking twat.
(A small communal outpost-village was founded to link the new mines to our civilization)
Okay, so here's the map
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG SOMEWHERE
It seems the blocs that are shaping are the >Demonic Bloc(all the demons, the population of Nayte and maybe other human sympathisers, let's say a total of 620 demons and about as many humans)
>Pantheon bloc - allmost all humans+Wave
>Neutrals - goblins and some humans in the south - most of the mines are neutral
Dragonstomb will be interesting, since it's got a population of 3000~ humans(including women and children!) and has maybe 400 demons(all strong folks) there and it has stone walls. Nayte has the dark-aligned humans and the rest of the demons and also has stone walls. All other settlements have wooden walls, Godric Isle has a fort.
Correct me if I'm wrong on anything
>>355246
Auberyx is right, no human would value anything like "tradition" or "culture" or "identity". I mean, we're all about the multikulti around here, aren't we? Let's just make this foreigner king, in fact! Yes, foreigners are always so much wiser than us! And we wouldn't want to offend anyone, oh no!
Shill harder, cuck.
>>355223
You have pldged your soul to the dark gods. You used to be our brother but betrayed us for more power, one can ask if u did it once you will do it again. Demons have originated from hell, they may come ar you with a smile only to stab you in the back. I am trully sorry for you and wish that you could become normal again but alast u can't replace a sold soul. I will pray for you poor and tortured soul.
>>355246
Dude, stop being a dick or I'll go neutral. Even if they are samefagging to win, it doesn't matter.
I hate to mix OOC and IC like that, but if I have to use an IC reward for you to stop mucking up the thread, I will. Chiiiiil.
Holy shit where's bulgar
>>355257
What? Why would the vast majority of humans be in favor of changing their faith at the whim of a foreigner?
>>355264
Because the chief is for it.
>>355246
Are you mental?
The dark God is one of our elemental gods of our history and culture. Are you even bothering to read? Or are you just pulling shit out of your ass?
>>355265
pretty much this
>>355257
You could add my farmlands which are near Dragon Tomb and Firsthold.
>>355258
You're trying to pass becoming a Demon and sacrificing people to the dark gods as "culture"?
You're no more that barbaric savages and we return you to hell.
>>355265
I don't think that really applies to a tribal culture.
>>355257
I find it hard to believe so many humans would drop their age old religion at the drop of a hat, but this honestly seems pretty balanced, gameplay wise. I say run it. Maybe mention all the herbs the Night Stalkers have been growing, though they hadn't found any huge use for them yet if I remember right.
>>355257
Word is our strategy will be to call on the Kulgari to help us expel the demons, seeing they are also under the pantheon.
>>355264
The hate for demons and sacrificing virgins perhaps?
They might not love our cause but they will certainly hate yours with a burning passion.
>>355272
Please tell me when we've sacrificed people and forcefully converted people. Go on, show me.
>>355264
Because they are aligned with the main clans, haven't seen or heard shit from the Old Gods in 73 years and have seen the power of the New Gods.
Demons seem scary, New Gods seem good to these simple-minded folks. To them the Old Gods don't matter so much.
>>355257
Yeah that seems like a big jump.
To say most of a tribe will change the religion they have been practicing since Thier forefathers at the drop of a hat, does not seem realistic.
>>355277
>The hate for demons and sacrificing virgins perhaps?
What the fuck is up with your lies?
First of all, there is no hate for demons outside of your foreign religion. Second there's no sacrifice involved in becoming a fucking demon.
>>355279
I get a majority being pro-status quo, but it just seems a bit too maby for such an intense change in their way of life.
>>355279
Also Bulgar I'm going to call in the Kulargi tribe for help since I have marriages with them. Also having the same faith.
>>355278
The night stalkers have an history of sacrificing to the dark gods and we received a bad omens for it multiple times.
Our people don't consider the dark god as a true god but a dark entity.
>>355265
Godric, I can't guarantee the safety of my gob farmer's on your fields. As I am neutral and not on good terms with the pantheon I must recall them for the duration of the war. However as a parting gift, I will leave some gold in their place to buy supplies
>>355281
Wave is anti-demon, and a significant portion of our population worships her.
>>348994
^proof right there.
>>355279
Also I'd like to call for the aid of all neighboring civilizations, citing our current situation as being just as real a threat for them as us, promising to return the favor if they face such a threat.
>>355277
>>355272
>>355283
I'd love for you to mention where in our rituals we sacrifice anything other than the blood of a demon for an initiate to drink. At least get some half-decent propaganda. And the Night Stalkers accidentally blew up ONE guy, after successfully establishing contact with the Dark god, the ONLY god to speak to us since the Storm. Tell us what YOU'VE done, Notajo. How have YOU contributed to the spiritual growth of the Rog?
>>355284
It's alright but once this blows over I'll like you to work it again.
>>355288
We murdered the only neighboring civilization that didn't worship the pantheon.
>>355290
He's started worshipping MEEEEE. :D
>>355288
We know that these "Norsemen" are not worshippers of the pantheon. If your side could get word to them, their help could be enlisted.
>>355292
Of course. Good luck, and if you need any help I will be here
>>355288
I would like to note that there isnt any neighboring civilization, except maybe some goblins.
>>355301
How long until the outbreak of the war? Do we have time to send an envoy?
Rolled 46 (1d100)
>>355301
I'll roll to petition their aid. other rebel factions should do the same if I fail. What of the chinks?
>>355303
We stand corrected. Must have been when I wasn't here. Or when I was listening to Red Alert.
>>355315
Also, I would like to reference your earlier threats in that Obelix remains as cunty as ever.
>>355319
at least i don't insult people and worship the dark god like and edgy teenager :^)
>>355301
The Norsemen will not be likely to get word from the demons as the human and wave control the sea. So it's impossible to travel to the Norsemen
>>355323
I'd rather be a blunt asshole than a lying kike.
>>355326
They'd have to cross the river indeed.
>>355332
We have demons on both sides of the river. Nayte and Dragons Tomb.
>>355326
>impossible
Because all humans hate demons and the wave is all-powerful.
>>355330
I see that you're getting quite angry now that you see that you enlisted in a war that you can't win.
>>355342
I'm angry because you decided to abandon our entire way of life because some guy performed a parlor trick.
>>355323
The only dark god are the night fags
That are worshiping one of the gods in Thier history and culture.
>>355346
C'mon nigga roll to establish an alliance
>>355346
Not only that just by fighting people were getting blood that we can use to super charge ourselves.
>>355290
And how did u demons actually get here in the first place.Let me remind you, you went trought our teritory, kidnapped our scouts, came to the gate and gave as an ultimatum. We only asceptes because we were scared for our lives. Nobody likes demons,nobody trust demons, the only people to convert were you 70 crazy demon worshipers. Demons are still strangers to us who just invited them selves in. So dont sell me that "what have you done for this civilazation" clan Erden has been a part of this civilazation a hell if a lot longer that your demons. My clan raised countless shamans who worshiped the Old Gods. But they are dead, their death almost destroyed ny clan and you claim its a test. Your ancestor gave creation to a demon worshiping weakling. So the next time you speak about heritagge and what people have done for the civilization look first at yourself then at everyone else.
Rolled 12 (1d100)
>>355351
Rolling to make contact with the Norsemen
It's almost 5 am here
I think the war itself should be in the next thread.
I announce it here every time
https://twitter.com/conannister
UNFORTUNATELY, I probably won't be able to make the next thrread today(Sunday), so most likely on Monday.
Okay, so here's revised stats for balance.
>Pantheon side:5000 humans(of all kinds) + Wave + Priest + most of the settlements
>Demon side:620 demons, 700 humans + Fortified town of Nayte + large alchemical store
>Neutral side:700 goblins, 800 humans + most of the southern farmlands and mines
Dragonstomb will be heavily disputed.
Both sides can search for other nations to call to their aid.
Any objections?
Guys.. This is getting out of hand. The arguing is getting not fun.
I'd like to petition OP to make 1d100 roll, with whatever modifiers he feels is appropriate for which factions are stronger, and that faction wins.
We've shown we're all too emotionally attached to wage a war on each other without angry shitposting at each other.
>>355360
We'll either way this was really fun, loving the faction system!
>>355357
This looks fair. See you Monday, Bulgar.
>>355360
Nah, it's all in good fun. At the end of the day it's a bunch of anonymous assholes playing pretend on a dirty corner of the net. The fight sounds like fun, it seems fairly even, and QM said losers could come back with new factions or as anons.
>>355362
He gets it, I love this shit!
>>355360
The arguing is fun for me senpai. I have no ill wiil towards them. It's just bantz.
>>355357
This faction system is preety good.Also you could add my farm land wich are located near Dragons Tomb and Firsthold.
>>355357
And i think i have like 140 goblins working on my fields.
>>355373
I've marked down the farms between Dragonstomb and Firsthold as Erden's farmland.
Now, on Monday the thread will start with the three sides making preparations, we need to gather up the players first before the dice start rolling for battles.
Think up of ideas and war strategies until then! You've got this thread to use and I'll check it often.
>>355359
You don't have an alliance with the norsemen, you have an alliance with the easterners.
>>355382
The goblin factions said they'll leave and compensate you with fragon marks for the trouble if a i remenber.
So, to make sure we understand the potential of an individual demon, the smallest of them is about 6'2", they're all vastly stronger than humans, and have an affinity for magic, fueled by the blood of various sentient creatures, right? With human blood being roughly equivalent to that of a large deer?
Further, seeing as all the PC demon factions are smallish, how are we to assume the ordering of the demons as a whole is being conducted? Are we temporarily controlling Fernius, or did our factions rise to prominence in the tensions?
>>355389
I think that faction was talking to Godric. The faction that works under me is the Goblin Workes Union and they havent made any statements, so i will keep runing things as if nothing changed
>>355415
I never hired the goblins as far as I know. They just thought they were working for me.
>>355405
Also, we should clear up how many of our hoplites are sympathizers. I'd take a hoplite formation over an equal formation of demons in level field combat. But there are only 150 of them, last I remember.
>>355405
I'm going to assume I'll be controlling Fernius and all the demons in dragons tomb while you'll be controllimg the demons in Nayte.
We'll also have to take into account we should have the best gear due to the fact were extremely skilled smiths. Also the fact the longer we fight the more powerful our magic will become.
>>355428
Would that put me in charge of the human rebels?
>>355405
Correct statements, though human blood is more useful than that of a large deer, said deer would be the second-best thing around.
I'm controlling Fernius as a character. A new player can create a demon warriors faction that's led by Fernius' 2nd in command or something like that.
>>355425
Almost all of the hoplites are on the Pantheon side - they are soldiers sworn to serve the chieftain.
Before the actual battles begin next thread, we'll have time to clear these things up for one last time.
>>355428
Only if you're willing to sacrifice prisoners.
As far as accessible magic right from the get go goes, you're outclassed by Wave's built up power from the Bloc and the Pantheon.
You have the long haul advantage in magic, but I'm pretty sure the first couple of engagements we'll have the advantage, until Wave's stored power is spent.
>>355433
What do we need to clean up?
>>355435
We dont need prisoners when were literally tearing people apart on the battlefield. Also you cant do anything to us so long as we aren't near the water. So that clears us up to attack almost every settlement except for the one you live in.
>>355433
Nayte had its own barracks for quite a while now being fully trained soldiers.
>>355436
Exactly what kind of bonuses 2 of the 3 demon factions being master smiths and craftsmen gives, and what exactly our fire mages can do when juiced up on human blood.
>>355435
Really not looking to take more blood than necessary, but yeah, it's gonna be the only way for us to win, especially given that we're going to be defending for most of the war inside the two settlements with stone walls.
>>355444
If just killing people on the battlefield counts, if everyone on Wave's side says "For Wave!" when they kill someone, then it's just whoever kills more people that gets more power.
>>355445
Forgot about this as well, but that was a Night Stalker asset, so I don't really know what's going on with them. Their player has been gone for several in-game years, and wasn't too crazy about fighting when I spoke to him, but I'm pretty sure he'll be more than ready to take to the offense now.
>>355450
I think you misinterpreted that, we use blood to juice us up. The more we kill the more is spilled. We can use that to juice us up more if a battle is very long.
Wave would happily help you relocate if you were willing to leave. She would love a peaceful solution.
To use blood as sacrifice, you need a live captive(or at least a recently deceased and mostly intact one) that you must commit to turning into magic fuel(not an instant process)
In a battle with magic, the two sides would have to stock up beforehand. The winner can take prisoners to sacrifice if they wish.
A potential tactic would be to capture civilians for sacrifice.
>>355465
That clears things up then. It'll be easy to get prisoners if fighters surrender. If we really need to we just use some civilians, also how potent are the Naytes potions compared to blood.
>>355461
I like you because you seem pretty benevolent overall, but the first thing out of your mouth when you met us was a threat to drown us if you ever got the chance. Following that, you shot down our proposal to try and spread the flow of clean water to all the people in the tribe. Forgive us if we don't especially trust you at this point, with your entire alliance brandishing their spears, as generous as your offer for us to leave everything we've built since we got here peacefully is.
>>355465
Dragon's Tomb is going to be bronze-age Stalingrad. :/
Oh btw I probably won't be able to make the start because a friend wants me to go canoeing with them, but I'll let The Daemon League handle my faction.
Just be sure to proselytize within the cities to bolster our numbers.
>>355465
Hello it's not to late for me to come up with a faction is it
>>355515
>>355520
Just a neutral comment , you guys might have to make a choice between getting support from humans and sacrificing civilians like >>355465
suggest.
So good luck guys, plan well and have nice canoe ride.
Fight well guys there's no merit in beating an opponent that doesn't give it it's all.
>>355529
You can post one now and if bulgar isn't here he'll come back and green light it or not. Just saying there's an opening for a faction regarding the demon warriors.
>>355529
I'm saying you can join us humans.
>>355515
I'm honored. I'll be sure to have your boys be as full of psychotic zeal as possible.
>>355535
Yeah, it's gonna be a fun ride. Lots of aspects to consider. You do your best too, man. I honestly don't know who's gonna win at this point, but either way, the story is gonna change pretty significantly, and it's gonna make the history of the world richer regardless.
>>355529
Demons do it better ;)
>>355546
>The best option would be sacrificing left over cattle and deer and whatnot.
will be hard since it's all that demons can eat since they're not big on veggies.
you guys have a lot of strategical problem to work out.
>>355546
>prisoners are fair game
Prisoners are not fair game, you'll never be trusted if you do that to humans
>>355550
We'll be doing it to people who fight that surrender, were not going to kick down doors and eat babies.
>>355552
>we're not going to kick down doors and eat babies.
That would have actually been your best bet.
>>355552
The humans don't surrender after they know they sacrifice them. I'll cause them to fight to the end until of being used up. Also eating babies noone will be willing to help you. not even your human friends if you do that.
>>355558
Regardless, some will surrender in the early stages as they wont know this giving us plenty of fuel for the future. Also, not all people will die, some will be knocked out from wounds and taken prisoner that way.
Faction name: blood clan
Damon warriors that want to be independent of all gods they don't hate the gods they simply want to stand on there on own and not rely on someone else strong.
>>355478
Gosh, the way no one reacted to that threat I thought no one read it. Thanks for having read it.
It was actually a political gambit to convince the demons to settle away from the coast, which meant Dragon's Tomb. But, at the time, no one cared or feared Wave because her worship/power was much less.
>>355597
Is this good enough for a Faction
>>355597
You have to take into account your assets, a leader name (cant be Fernius has to be something like a second in command), then you should be good.
>>355607
assets you mean what I'm good at and the leader name is Scourge
>>355618
Assets as in what your faction owns to would fit in with the setting and the people you have. Like you'll have demon warriors and some land in Dragons Tomb. Its up to you to think about some other things they may own.
>>355357
Buglar you shouldn't make the fight more balance, if the human side has more support from the start. You shouldn't try to help the side with less support.
If you been deal a shit hand, let them play with it, not cheat to make it easier.
>>355597
>faction name: blood clan
>damon warriors that want to be independent of all gods
wew
Is this supposed to be a parody of Coldsteel?
>>355670
What Coldsteel?
See you all next time. :^)
>>355668
Not exactly cheating. Demons and Night Stalkers DO have everything on there, just assumes that there's some Dragon's Tomb rebels in there, which is probably a result of anon support for the demons. Tbh if it weren't for the demons seeing how this was gonna go down early on, and being generally OP, this would be a massacre.
>>355702
Still going to be a massare for the demons
>>355707
We'll see, man, we'll see. :^)
>>355707
Not really, the human military is only slightly larger than all the demons combined, and all demons fight. We also use dark and fire magic when humans have none except for wave who only applies in water and that priest guy. Then theres that Nayte has its own barracks and is essentially its own city with trained soldiers. Not even adding the fact that some of the civilians there will probably want to convert also.
>>355711
Even if some how the demons win, the next door village will come and kill you all. It's best for you to give up.
>>355714
One's you start killing humans, they don't want to convert.
>>355717
You do realize a majority of demons live in dragons tomb which we can easily take bums off the street or sacrifice captured soldiers? Meanwhile the people of Nayte complete support the demons and have a stock of magic potions to fuel the demons there.
>>355726
Their is 400 demons in dragonhold. The army is station there, demons are separated from the humans. Their is a police force and army their that can kill the demons before they try to arm themselves. Their also the case with 3000 humans their that don't like it that demons are buring the town down and sacrificing humans, losting you human supporters everywhere that's not in Nayte
>>355737
You're literally saying a scenario where we get completely caught off guard while the army has had prep time when everyone knows whats going to happen dude. You're also saying the entire human force is there and not there being a decent sized presence with the rest being sprinkled around the other large towns, while also putting that all the humans will put down their lives like radicals instead of letting the military try to deal with it. Also, why would we burn down our home?
>>355748
:^) Because your demons, you guys are evil. Willing to burn you home just to kill humans.
>>355759
cut them some slack.
Also it's sad that it's sad that it's come to this you know.
Really i would have prefered to keep them without their ability to "reproduce" instead of outright killing them all.
My stance from the begining was that i'm ok with demon but not them multiplying.
>>355748
Just leave him man, we'll see how it goes when it happens. Let him imagine what he likes, we don't need to stoop to the lows that they want us to. We're only monsters if we let them make us monsters.
>>355771
>We're only monsters if we let them make us monsters.
you've choosen to be monster by literally becoming vampire that ask before turning people into vampire.
You've also choosen to become monster in our eyes by refusing the new gods for your "right" to multiply.
But don't worry we'll give you proper terms of surrenders when it's over, everybody doesn't have to die.
Just enough to make a point.
Just don't expect us to let you win this.
>>355783
But even then after the fight their be neuter so it's better to make them new factions and but to sleep the demons.
>>355797
It's their first uprising the do deserve punishement, but maybe not death.
>>355804
That depends the anons playing them feel like they want to go down fighting rather than give up.
Also if a lot of humans died I don't think the rest of the factions will want to spare them.
>>355809
You should probably listen to Obelix and Inky. You really sound like you have the mental capacity of an 11 year old.
>>355783
A vampire needs blood to survive. We do absolutely fine without anything to do with humans, and offered our various services to you since the demons arrived. We don't turn people against their will, hell, we AGREED not to turn people from Rog or Kularg, even if they asked to be. We had an agreement, and you all nullified the shit out of it by forcing us to NEVER expand our numbers, while you all breed like mad. One dooms us to irrelevance, the absolute antithesis of my particular faction, the other is a fair deal struck with the more numerous population. We had a deal, you broke it, and then attempted to play the wounded party when you followed it up by getting rid of effectively all of our civ's cultural history by trading it to the FIRST foreigner to show up and do some magic tricks, talking about this distant kingdom that's totally trustworthy and great.
Even if we'd accepted the terms, we'd already be dead. If we die fighting, then there's at least the honor of having made you work for it, instead of bowing down as soon as you asked us to.
>>355821
Did someone call my name?
I was just looking back at the thread and saw this.
>>355809
Anon it's all for fun, we'll see what happens next thread.
>>355821
Solomon even if I'm going to face you in battle soon, I hope you the best. Make sure you have your A-game.
>>355804
Hi Obelix. Let's come up with a plan on Monday together, until then see you.
>>355825
>and you all nullified the shit out of it by forcing us to NEVER expand our numbers, while you all breed like mad. One dooms us to irrelevance, the absolute antithesis of my particular faction
600 demons is important even in a city with millions of people, you could have gotten support.
>We had a deal, you broke it, and then attempted to play the wounded party
well 73 demon shifter wasn't nothing when we had 2800 people. We felt like you kindda we're planning an uprising and it kindda proven us right.
>you followed it up by getting rid of effectively all of our civ's cultural history by trading it to the FIRST foreigner to show up and do some magic tricks
To be Fair we refuse all the religious culture we had that had no basis or was negative, we didn't throw wave off the window because she was THE only actual god that did shit in our tribe.
>talking about this distant kingdom that's totally trustworthy and great
Nah they're not trustworthy, we know that but they do teach magic and their god seems pretty legit.
>Even if we'd accepted the terms, we'd already be dead
nah you'd be craftsmens and maybe hero's of our Kingdom, maybe not liked by the religious but you could have jumpstarted research coppernic style and done all the useful thing we needed opposant of our pantheon to do.
> If we die fighting, then there's at least the honor of having made you work for it, instead of bowing down as soon as you asked us to.
There is no honor in death when your cause stay unfinished.
>>355847
How is it an uprising when you are forced to defend your self just to maintain your way of life?
>>355847
>600 demons is relevant compared to a million
>we were planning an uprising
>preparing for a possible purge is an uprising
Our only cultural trait is the importance of free will, by not letting us do that you effectively take that away. You seriously can't try to act like you're in the right when we just want to be able to keep our homes and beliefs with the pantheon hating us like that when it wants us to not do the ultimate act of free will that is the pact. By taking your deal we lose our free will in the eyes of the demons. We've already tolerated the demon free zones.
>>355866
Your way of life was to be abandonned when you crossed the gates of Dragon's tomb.
But yet still we accepted thsi part of this culture even if was unffective we've let you pursue less menial labor that your physique would urgue us to give you,we've feed you while you were unwilling to farm.
We've been more than tolerant, our single request was to not turn our populations into demons, is it that hard to understand fom a human point of view why this is important?
>>355847
We never had any kind of plans to rebel. We even left and founded our own town with the Night Stalkers, the human clan that was also feeling the heat because ONE shaman got set to frappe, and we didn't want to cause trouble. The one god you kept was VERY vocal about wanting us all dead, and banning all interaction with us on pain of embargo. Great Crow has spent virtually ALL of his shitty rolls looking for ways to explicitly murder demons more effectively. You banned us from the entirety of the fucking coasts, ensuring that we could never so much as fucking step on the beach, or else we'd face severe punishment. There was constant talk of purging this, exile that, and several fucking chieftain candidates ran on that as a huge part of their platforms. But yeah man, I'm sure that once we were a tiny little minority, it all would've gone swimmingly. I mean, if you were doing all this while we could've very feasibly beaten you, I'm sure it only would've gotten better once you could crush us, right?
I like you because you're a straight shooter, man. Don't bullshit me. You can't act as though this is all perfectly reasonable behavior when we went as far as BUILDING OUR OWN TOWN to stay out of trouble, and you (collectively, not specifically the Notajo) kept pushing for us to face more and more restrictions.
If we win, there will be very reasonable terms, that I promise. Just don't sit and play the victim in all of this when I wanted to science shit, Night Stalkers wanted to talk to God, Masons wanted to build pretty things, and the one genuinely violent Demon faction was like 70% human, and still ultimately wanted to talk to God.
>>355885
It's going to be alright man.
>>355897
I just wanted test tubes and beakers n' shit. : (
>>355870
>Our only cultural trait is the importance of free will, by not letting us do that you effectively take that away
Free will doesn't mean validating others will to turn into demons.
Imagine if that would happen in modern society where traditionalism disappeared, Society would collapse for sure to hedonism and individualism, the very tenets of your culture against which i am against.
Also 600 would have been relevent if you accepted you would have keept your fort and likely would have been made lords of a region.
>>355885
>Great Crow has spent virtually ALL of his shitty rolls looking for ways to explicitly murder demons more effectively.
I'd like to say that he's not part of our power block and when Inky asked for weakness of dark magic i called him out for search a way to negate the demons.
Also i tolerate Wave 's hate for demons since you'll literally never have anything to do with her, Demon's are craftsmen not fishermens.
>You can't act as though this is all perfectly reasonable behavior when we went as far as BUILDING OUR OWN TOWN to stay out of trouble, and you (collectively, not specifically the Notajo) kept pushing for us to face more and more restrictions.
You've decided to align against our power bloc what did you expect to happen once we dominated the votes?
For us not be against you?
You would have done the same on some level maybe not as much i admit.
>Just don't sit and play the victim in all of this when I wanted to science shit, Night Stalkers wanted to talk to God, Masons wanted to build pretty things, and the one genuinely violent Demon faction was like 70% human, and still ultimately wanted to talk to God.
I don't really tolerate talking with god over and over when god is not on the line and you always roll under 30 for that but i can give you the fact that you only wanted to build shit.
Maybe being more artists than fort builder would have convinced us that you bear no ill will against us.
Anyhow don't get too mad i don't want you to make this personal, i'm sure that if you want to start a new faction or keep yours with reasonable terms of surrenders.
However if you do want to surrender i advise you do so before we assault the gates of Nayte.
Anyhow the main undecisive battle will heppen at Dragon's tomb we may hold a diplomatic discussion after it.
Okay I'm going to write this one more time
Faction name: blood clan
leader name is Scourge
They are warriors that see great potential in themselves and when they moved into to dragons tomb they bin learning everything the humans know about combat sense there skill were good enough too kill a Dragon there goals pretty simple they want to be the best warriors this world has ever seen and to get rid of people that get in the way of progress
Assets
>land in dragons tomb
>Many demons warriors
Is this good enough for a Faction
>>355917
Obelix bro you got some place to talk in private, since I want to go the battle plans with you. We don't have to do it today, just before the battle
>>355925
>and to get rid of people that get in the way of progress
>Happymerchantface.jpeg
I guess it's good enough this war may let you make an in medias res introduction though i hope you don't get stubborn because this war will require lots of tactic on both side (or inky's luck on rolls).
Also you character developpement might take a strange turn at the end of this war wether you win or lose.
>>355931
I suppose the usual will do, if you have a gmail we can talk on hangout too kindda like skype.
>>355939
I can do hangout, but I don't feel like talking so I'll just write the stuff to you. lets go to the google doc and handle it from their
>>355917
>Free will doesn't mean validating others will to turn into demons.
Why does everyone keep pushing this we only convert those that come to us. Even then very few come to us. Our culture wasn't even against you guys until you droped it for that old guy that came, and then were just fighting to keep our ways.
>You've decided to align against our power bloc what did you expect to happen once we dominated the votes?
We've only been doing our own thing peacefully while you guys have been staunchly anti demon when we've done nothing. Over in Nayte was in response to hostilities against the night stalkers and the league. Meanwhile The Masons themselves even made many great buildings that helped everyone like the hall for the people to learn and the town wall.
>>355933
What Happymerchantface.jpeg
>>355963Happymerchantface.jpeg
>>355950
again vampires that don't drink blood and turn only willing people are still evil.
If a criminal comes to you and you give him demons powers it's still your fault.
Giving people power for their ability to breed and do hard labor is evil.
>We've only been doing our own thing peacefully while you guys have been staunchly anti demon when we've done nothing
Anti-demons got big when you started converting people as a bulgar roll and basicly everyone though to themselves that demons have more political representation by factions than their actual demographic and we had to stop that.
So we either impeded your growth to make people joing human faction instead of always going for gobbos or demons.
I mean there's like 3 gobbo faction, 3 demons faction 1 god and like 8 humans?
It's pretty inequal so we had to do something from a player point of view, and from and RP point of view i'll agree that we just followed most of anti demons because it's easy to use group mentallity to creat a coallition when you've got something to fight for.
>>355982
So you're argument is that were just evil with no evidence and that people shouldn't get the choice to become one simply because,"we dont like it". The bulgar role was willing people dude, at least now you've admitted why you're doing this like we've been wanting you to do. Hey, it RP so do as you feel, its just a game.
Wew lad, stories write themselves sometimes.
>>355925
You've got the green light, you control about half of the professional demon warriors, the rest answer to Fernius.
Other anons who want to make a faction, just write up some text description of it, has to make sense within the civilization. List your assets and I'l check it out to see if it's good.
Example:
Clan Civbul
Clan civbul is old human blood, they're not the richest or the strongest, but they've got most of the lands in and around Bullcoast and are somoe of the biggest ranchers around these here parts. Their leaders like to ride to war in chariots.
>Assets:Most of the lands around bullcoast;Large herds; War chariots
>>355917
I regret that the war had to come to pass, and I regret that we can't work together until the dust settles, but I understand now that there's just no way we could've been friends. Your judgement has been based on the assumption that we would eventually attempt to seize power in a violent coup, ours was based on the assumption that we would eventually be attacked for our differences. We were always diametrically opposed, and the mutual distrust was just too great for any real relationship to form. This only could've ever ended with war.
RP aside, I do think it's genuinely hilarious that both sides of our little conflict were constantly shaping their grand strategy around the assumed betrayal we were both attempting to avoid.
Also, demonfags, get the fuck in here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1igot-hoTvFSjDmBtGO4DyJpXbjWuJsdXrmIshlxYeE0/edit?usp=sharing
Gonna put together a skype or a hangout or some shit to talk strategy.
Rolled 46 (1d100)
Rolled 9 (1d100)
>>356654
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>356324
Good luck
>>356282
Faction Name: Iron Legion
Leader: Cassius Whitevayne
A warrior faction that has recently risen out of the fighting pits of DragonsTomb. They based their base on the tip of bull coast and own most of the lands there. They believe in the war god stoman which they renamed Mars. They own a new type of metal called iron. They can't make anymore and only have a small amount of iron weapons. They are armoured in mostly bronze armour and carry large rectangular shields. They train everyday in their hold in the bulls coast. The soldiers when off duty are farmers and herdsmen.
>Assets: heavy infantry (Legionaries), Most of the lands in bulls coast, Tiny amount of iron weapons. (No current source to create more iron weapons). Large herds. small Village at bulls coast
>>359220
Also love adventuring...
Rolled 16 (1d100)
>>359037
Same to you, man. glhf
>>359220
Cool faction but I don't think Civ bulgar is here so I think you are going to need to bring it to the new thread when it's is up
>>359220The name Stoman comes from Steel, incidentally
Good idea, like it, but I can't allow iron yet, even if you can't make any more. There will be a time for that in the near future, but we are strictly Bronze-Age right now.
I'd say keep everything bronze right now maybe call yourself Stoman's leagion or Mars' legion if that's how you want to call Him.
Also, today's civil war will have to be in one of the previous threads because /qst/ is slow and hasn't archived them yet.
Mods, if you can see this, I'd like the two previous threads I made to be sent to the archive so I can continue with a fresh one.
>>359581
should we sage them to make them reach page 10 bulgar?
>>359581
Okay Cool.
>>359581
Well I can keep the name. And then we can name the "new" metal iron after this faction after we find it
>>359614
Iron is boring this is a fantasy world, you could have had a much cooler material for your weapon, Our king has a Dragonbone greatsword.
You could have asked to get Volcanic forged Bronze to sound cool if you want to focus on forging artefacts and cool weapons.
>>359590
>>359603
Let's see if it works
>>359581
If you do it in an old thread could you put a link in this one?
>>359614
So you're probably gonna get this asked in the next thread, who are you going to support? The demons who dindu nuttin, Or the humans that chose the pantheon. Or just remain neutral and be looked down upon if the pantheon wins for worshipping mars.
>>359627
>>359614
I would like to point out that the pantheon has a smith god, "Kovag" and that siding with us will give you access to the best forges in the burning volcano of Godric isle and would make sense if you are humans.
Also you could go neutral and try to deal with the greeddy gobbos.
Or go with the demons who own no metal mine but are fine craftsmens, artisants without metal but yet prous and unwilling to kneel and bend.
Heres the thing..
Only the god of light looks down on the demons.
The war and forge god probably side with them.
I mean if you look at the greek gods they had wars against each other and shit.
Why dont we escalate the conflict further
And Have different gods do stuff
>>359646
The whole pantheon is pretty set on the "demon are evil thing"
I doubt any god would side with the demons who are faithless.
>>359637
Isn't there only one human owned mine deep south and the rest are owned by the goblin jews? All of which are south save for the silver in the east which is where we buy our metal. Unless you found one on the island and I didn't see that.
Also, you're not the only one with great places to craft stuff, I built a great hall where all races could learn and make great creations.
>>359651
We own a mine on Godric isle.
A copper mines.
And also another copper mine down south, but goblins do own most of the tin.
And i doubt that the talent of you master smiths can outvalue the usefulness of a dragon's molten fire from Godric island in the art of smithing.
>>359650
Did you ask them ? :^)
>>359655
The Volcano is not in exploitation at the moment as it is not active.
You have some copper in Godric isle and one copper mine in the deep south. The goblins have the tin.
Metal production would only matter in a longer war, by the way.
>>359655
I dont know man, our people have been doing this for decades fine without a lava forge and we've been doing fine providing demons and people with master work gear and architecture.
>>359646
The gods in general don't seem to like us much at all, but we're not looking to fight them. We just want self-determination, and are more than fine with magic and war as long as it's not for the benefit of some faraway deity. It should be noted though, there are a handful of demons that worship the elemental Dark, so it's not impossible for demons to have faith, we're just naturally inclined against it. We'd love to have you on our side, and think you'd make a fine addition to the forces of Rog loyalty.
>>359655
Just a reminder that we can easily strip your combatants of their arms and armor, and melt it down or reforge it easily. Work that would take a human days can be done by a demon in a day or less, thanks to retardstrength.
>>359660
"Demonkind is a relic of a war from centuries ago when the gates of hell were opened into this world. Those gates were shut, but some demons made it into this world - the original demons, they are called.
Demons defy the will of the Gods at every turn. Their acts of depravity, their violence and blasphemy are all affronts to the Pantheon. Any boon they may have given you is but a temporary lure for the purpose of claiming your souls, condemning "
"Demons must not be allowed to spread their taint. Those who would agree never to do so may be spared, though their souls are forever condemned to Hell."
>>359665
I would like to point out we've done nothing of the sort they accuse us of doing here, unless you count us destroying fighters in the arena or when you wanted to march on the gobbos.
>>359665
That was the word of your one foreign priest. He could be mad, or worship an entirely discrete set of gods from our elemental spirits. Everything you're basing your hate and distrust on is either prejudice or the word of a lone missionary, whose gods are so mighty and so worthy of worship that they didn't see fit to stop our offensive existence themselves, or to prove our supposed 'evil' nature, when we've done nothing but help the tribe.
>>359663
>Just a reminder that we can easily strip your combatants of their arms and armor, and melt it down or reforge it easily.
That's only if you win a battle demons, even if bronze can be recast i doubt you skulls can.
>>359667
>I would like to point out we've done nothing of the sort they accuse us of doing here, unless you count us destroying fighters in the arena or when you wanted to march on the gobbos.
That was not the point, i'm not accusating you of all theses thing but just pointing our that theses Gods will not follow you.
>>359671
>That was the word of your one foreign priest. He could be mad, or worship an entirely discrete set of gods from our elemental spirits.
He did do magic trick, that does validate him as pretty legit.
>Everything you're basing your hate and distrust on is either prejudice or the word of a lone missionary, whose gods are so mighty and so worthy of worship that they didn't see fit to stop our offensive existence themselves, or to prove our supposed 'evil' nature, when we've done nothing but help the tribe.
I Do believe that demons must not be allowed to spread as they wish, their individualism and will for personal freedom above all other values such as sacrifice has a greater potential to doom us in the future than a small war.
Unless you believe an Individualist society can survive (and then you're clearly mistaken since you live thank to the peasant who do all the boring work to feed you) you're clearly in no place to think you should command yourself and never receive Order from the community who feed you.
>>359684
Ah, so you've admitted for the second time its mere prejudice.
But can seriously tell me why you think were just free loaders taking food? The craftsmen making many things and help on man town projects leading to us to be wealthy. The Naytes are with the demons trying to talk to their god and do their science thing. Meanwhile the fighters are fight in the pits and are you're most valuble assets in wars.
>>359665
These demons in our country aren't really spreading anything other than infrastructure for our towns and city....
Then again I worship a War god and we are kinda like mercenaries..
Dragonmarks or Dem demons be free
>>359689
Please remember how well a band of mercenaries-turned-heroes would be treated in our lovely equal society. With humans, goblins, and demons all having equal representation under their own kings, you would be VERY well respected, and would have far more to your name than your single hold.
Not to mention, our friends the Free Masons are quite wealthy thanks to their work. I'm sure they'd be happy to incentivize your support upfront. ;)
>>359689
When the war thread starts(in around 2 hours, I'll have some courier work to finish inbetween) every faction will have to declare itself to either one of the two sides or stay neutral for the time being.
It is quite possible that the netural factions(Mostly goblins at the moment) will decide the outcome of the war.
Logically, if you are a warrior's faction, your decision makes sense.
We've only learned of the Pantheon just now and have yet to be taught the words of the New Gods, so you're probably not the most religious at present. Clans like yours will be sought-after allies and you can market yourself to the highest bidder.
>>359689
If you insist on being paid we can arrange that due to our work bringing in many dragon marks since our craftsmen ship is highly sought after. We can even throw demon smithed gear during the war as their will be plenty of metal to recast during it as a sign og good will.
>>359687
>But can seriously tell me why you think were just free loaders taking food?
You pursue all work of artisanship instead of being farmer which we need much more than other things.
You solely eat meat, which is hard to produce and harder to live off of.
All that you've done is build your own safety fort and attacked goblins of your own volution with our support.
If anything you have been a pretty non-outgoing bunch , mostly building things inbetween demon.
I think you guys suffer from lack of cooperation with humans because of your nature non lowborn nature that "forces" you to pursue things that make more money and are more prestigious.
Which i think just mean Demons don't want to farm because they want fame and wealth above trust and patriotism.
You fight for yourselves and we fight for our tribe.
This is what this is about, a fight between a point of view that is traditional to demons that the individual must be free regardless of consequences against our point of view that the tribe must flourish wether through freedom or the sacrifice of freedom.
All you've done is what you were expected to do and nothing more, and if you did anything more it was for yourself.
Had you been artists who build statues in Dragon's Tomb for all to see it would a been a selfless act, but all you've done is wall yourself in , in your secluded Town of Nayte and occasionally fight for us when you had no choice.
You've not earned you keep, each time you did something for us you had no choice in the matter which mean somethings when you guys value freedom, it means you're not with us.
When we build a bloc, you've build a wall don't get suprise if the conflict kept escalating.
Also are you all ready for an amazing thread?
The first legend?
A Dance between Man and Demon?
The war of the land between Hell and Heaven?
>>359725
DATS DEMONIST
Also do you want to make an offer for the only war faction in the game to join you?
>>359735
Do you accept payment in cooper and written owned favors to your legion?
>>359736
dragonmarks + Bronze and stuff +Favours
or
Copper + Favours
hmm
>>359747
Consider the fact that you'll be able to set up a forge on Godric Isle and that demons have no mines and don't own the silvermines.
Dragonmarks are worthless in times of war.
What you need if a real alliance.
And with the side who is more likely to win.
We do have plans for you.
>>359747
>>359751
Remember that every demon is worth at LEAST 2 peak humans. You join us, and our already fair odds of winning a DEFENSIVE war using the best walls of any settlement get even better.
>>359772
We've got an okay stockpile, and all the farmland at Nayte is available for human use, since demons only eat meat.
>>359778
>Remember that every demon is worth at LEAST 2 peak humans.
They're not, a few arrows and all you'll be is dead.
We hold mutiple holdings with walls.
We are defended by a river and the sea.
We are numerous and you are few.
Number will defeat strengh when the tactics are good.
>fair odds of winning a DEFENSIVE war using the best walls of any settlement get even better.
Good luck feeding on those while our army stand outside
>>359786
>We own the herds on bulls coast... and plenty of farmland there
Your supplies are on the other end of the criver and the whole damn region.
You'll never even reach Dragons's Tomb with thoses herd.
We've got multiple holding there.
Free Masons just got banned for unkown reasons, Said he'd be back in 5 hours at best, 21 days at worst. Guess mods assumed sagebombing?
>>359804
just checking if i'm banned.
>>359804
So mods won't listen to my requests to have the old threads archived now, but they'll ban someone who does something I ordered on my own threads?
MODS
Un-ban Free Masons and archive fantasy civ quest 1 and 2 please
The blood clan simply want to make sure The Free Masons don't die they are the smartest of the demons and we are only fighting because we can't breed so we see the complete stop of recruiting as a death sentence
>>359832
>we are only fighting because we can't breed so we see the complete stop of recruiting as a death sentence
If you think this is a death sentence and will fight to the last because of it we will show you what a true death sentence is ,do you realise this fact?
You don't have to die, we only accepted this pantheon and ordered you to stop making pact with our people.
You could either accept theses conditions or die and only those who choose the first option can claim they do want their clansmans to live.
>>359843
So are you saying that if we surrender that one of your Factions won't go crazy and try and kill us all when our backs are turned but still with that said I wish we didn't have to fight and the only way we would surrender if The Free Masons did that too like I said I don't want to see the smartest of the demons die
>>359871
Well Wave will still hate you like always.
But we won't actively try to kill you all.
Our stance was always that we have no problem with a single demon tribe that can't multiply using our people.
You guys can go to Nayte and steal people from the eastern tribes for all i care, but if you stay and fight we won't be afraid to force you out of your silly fort and behead thoses of you who won't surrender.
>>359875
That was already thhe deal we worked out with Godric, until you decreed that we wouldn't be able to reproduce AT ALL.
>>359889
You guys should have just tried to do it behind our back and let us do our thing and be apathetic about demons in general.
You could have settled for discreet transformation that are less numerous.
If the faith wouldn't have noticed you could have likely pay us to fuck off and shut our mouth.
>>359875
Wait are you saying we can still recruit people they simply have to not be from your Factions I can work with that.
>>359912
nah they must not be From our kingdom and you must do you best to hide it.
Otherwise we'll have to follow the pantheon and purge demons.
Next thread when?
War when?
>>359929
War soon enough.
I reckon i an hour or so.
If one of the thread hit page 10 and sink.
>>359940
I'm here
>>359929
>>359946
I want to get off the boat to godric isle.
>>359948
We're never getting off the boat.
>>359915
Okay can agreement to those terms but I still can't surrender if the Free Masons fight in this war
Are we seriously having pseudo-peace talks now? I'm all for peace, but the engines of war are still turning, and there's a lot of people ready to tear shit up. If you can stop the other humans, I can speak on behhalf of the Night Stalkers and the Masons.
New thread is up, get in there. Once enough players are assembled, the war itself will begin
