DER KRIEG 3: REVENGE OF THE GERMANS

>>316680
Wew lad. Alright. I wanted to also send an envoy to Japan to see if they are willing to buy some of our military hardware. Just not bring up the fact that we also sell to China.-KN

>>316696
You send an envoy to Japan, asking if they would be willing to buy some German military hardware. The Japanese ambassador has a hard time hiding his excitement, and tells you that they'd be happy to arrange a meeting with their minister of defence.

>>316735
No man can resist the German Engineering. Has the German "aid" turned the tide in China yet?

>>316747
China is currently experiencing the 1931 floods, which has hampered the Chinese war effort. The Chinese army has also only taught half its units to operate German weaponry, so the "turning of the tide" will have to wait.

>>316756
Damn. Well the Economy is still in the toilet, but at least Japan has an Erection for us. I want to continue to push our message of helping the economy across the country. We did it once, and we will do it again. Keep doing that until something bad eventually happens

>>316766
The Japanese have suspended erections for the time being.

You push your message of helping the economy across the country. It doesn't do much, since people prefer action to talk.

>>316847
That's fair enough. Well we do want open negotiations with Japan. They are a Strategic country, but I feel like we will have to eventually picl between Japan or China

>>316847
We should consider riling up the Zionists by starting to distribute propaganda against the British occupation of Palestine. Arm German Jewish bands who are "totally acting of their own accord and privately funded" and have them depart out of Italy to fight the bongs for Israel.

Also begin talks with Ireland and distributing pro-Irish propaganda in the United States. Fenian raid, make it happen.

>>316861
Yes, surely with Nazi Stormtroopers spreading Anti-Semitic rhetoric and committing hate crimes around Germany the Jews will just be happy to send all their able-bodied men to fight the world's biggest empire.

Ireland hates your guts like almost every country in Europe, plus they don´t want to get on the Brits' bad side.
>>316856
What do you wish to negotiate?

>>316883
Just the usual trade deals. We are a nation producing cheap goods. We just need to find buyers. Maybe have ease up on tariffs and look to us for some of their buying needs

>>316883
Yes?
Who gives a fuck about realism, try, at least with Ireland. At the very least we can look at negotiations with the United States too.

>>316900
I could see with United States, but you are gonna have a rough time with getting Jews to work with even Ireland.

>>316898
The Japanese say they are very interested i setting up a meeting to buy some military goods. They ask if you share their enthusiasm.
>>316900
>who gives a fuck about realism

I do.

>>316921
The German people see a long and very prosperous road ahead of us if we continue to work together.

>>316942
The German people see a long road, but it's not prosperous. They then wonder why you are pointing towards the Autobahn.

>>317010
We must get people moving. Our roads and bridges are new, but our people are sluggish. This great country needs a cheap family car that every German can own from working in a factory. Our roads need to be filled with both Caravans of trucks, and our own German people.

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>>316921
>Weimar Republic
>ever being effective
>acting as a united body
>nullifying the treaty of Versailles
>doing anything significant beyond being a patron of meme arts and dying
Listen QM, you're full of shit, this premise alone is unrealistic.

>>317097
Come on man, don't act like post-ww1 allies were not a bunch of pussies. Besides, it isn't even a republic anymore. There are like 3 big parties that have started taking over the government.

>>317097
>Weimar Republic
>ever being effective
>acting as a united body

>Ignoring the roaring 20's
>Ignoring that Hitler ruled the Weimr republic for almost a year
>Ignoring the fact that the Weimar Republic broke the treaty of Versailles via suspending reparations and secret infantry traing almost straight after the war

Lrn to history faggot
>>317106
You still have elections, although they are almost four years away.
>>317037
The idea of a car for every family, especially now in a time of depression and low wages, is just a pipe dream.

>>317156
Fine. Putting that on the back burner though. I hope to increase wages as we ship goods to Japan and eventually China. When they get their shit straightened, their large population will be a boon to our economy. For now, make sure the supply goes with demand and increase wages as the exports increase.

>>317156
Not to mention the reason Hitler came to power was two large groups of the Wiemar republic wanted to use him to gain a majority, sadly resulting in him becoming the all controlling dictator that caused WW 2.

Had they not being scheming so hard he wouldn't have gotten in. At least for another election.

>>317179
You have to make a trade treaty first to export good s to Japan. and increasing wages might hurt your competitiveness.

>>317222
Well eventually I want to make German goods for German people only. Of course the world won't like this, but if we get our economy on track first, it won't matter. As for the trade deals with Japan, I am sure that after I meet with the Foreign Minister, we can work out some deal.

>>317222
Make a Nazi China through propaganda, I want to see the Jews stopping that

>>317235
You schedule a meeting with the Foreign Minister. Decide what you are trying to sell him.
>>317238
You attempt to pitch the idea of making a Nazi China, and promptly get shut down, as the government has no interest in funding propaganda in a country on the other side of the planet so that they can install a party inherently hostile to them in China.

>>317270
"We are years ahead of any country in terms of Military technology, we have light tanks that can roll across plains, fuel efficient military vehicles, planes that will defeat any other in combat, and quality weapons of war. We also have ships ready to be sailed around the world that can match a ship twice their size and submarines that can take down battleships. The question I have for you is, what do you want?

>>317302
You sit down in the meeting room, rehearsing your speech as you wait for the Foreign Minister. Suddenly, a short, slightly chubby man with a moustache and glasses runs in, a piece of toast hanging from his mouth.
"S-sorry I'm late", he quickly says before devouring his toast.
"Y-you wanted to discuss trade? I'm afraid the General has insisted that it will be only in military equipment."

>>317324
>piece of toast
God damn it.
Well, while I am here to discuss mainly in military equipment, we cannot deny the fact that the world seems to be in some "funk". Having access to cheap goods could prove worthy. Anyway, we can talk about that later. Right now is about Advanced Military hardware.

>>317348
You suggest the idea of selling some of your military hardware to him, and his face ights up, although he tries to hide it.
"R-really? Well, I guess we could take some of your weapons off your hands, for a low enough price. It´s not like we want your hardware or anything, b-baka"
You could make a big sale here, but it wouldn't turn a large profit. Should you press for a higher price, or accept the deal as it is?

>>317363
"Lets not lie to ourselves. We have the best on the market, and we are not selling market price. We will go low, but not as low as you are talking. I have seen the excitement on you. I will not hold that against you, but do not lie to me telling em you don't want it. It is years ahead of both China and the U.S. What is your new price?

>>317388
The Japanese diplomat sweats noticiably, horrified at you calling his bluff.
"W-well, envoy-san, I guess we could spare a bit more cash, and we would really like having your military equipment in our inv-", he stops,
"our operations, ahem. D-don't take this as a sign or anything though, we don't need your big artillery in our army, w-we can manage just fine on our own."
You have successfully pressured them into paying more, although they won't like you for it. Do you sign now?

>>317428
Damnit, forgot trip

>>317428
See? Look how well that turned out for both of us. Now I am willing to sign right now, but we still have to talk about civil trading. Now while you are a small country with limited resources, you are able to stretch your dollar. If you ease the tariffs on our businesses, then you could have cheap, German made goods and your citizens will be able to pay for them. This is a deal I do not offer very many people. And those that I do offer it to, they accept.

>>317439
"L-lower tariffs? I suppose so, B-BUT NOT UNTIL we see ALL of the weapons you promised in our hands sorryforshouting".

And with that, the deal is concluded. You've made enough money to keep the government in the black for at least the next month, and the Japanes can use the weapons for whatever they're planning.
What now?

I'm going to have a bite to eat, i'll be back in ~30 min

>>317506
Now we must return to our Country. I want to check our manufacturing abilities and our factory outputs. Also I want to check in with Einstein and our research division to see if they got anything that will save our asses.

>>317530
Your manufacturing abilities remain unchanged, but your factory outputs are flagging due to protectionist policies being instated in France and the US. More nations are expected to follow suit.

Einstein claims to have made contact with an Indian scientist named Subhas Chandra Bose, and asks for you to bring him to Germany to help him. Apparently they have a theory that there exists another state of matter, with unknown quantum properties, that could be used as a weapon of mass destruction.

>>317699
Fine. Send a military plane to get him from whatever hellhole he is in. As for the output of the factories, I expected this. The developed nations will all do this, but if China pays off, and we can do something with Japan, we could have enough to stay afloat. I want a couple of people looking for any developing markets that we can nudge into.

>>317753
You try to look for developing markets, but they aren´t really a thing, Europe owning the rest of the world and all. Latin America is an option, though the US won´t appreciate you going into its backyard.

Word comes from Japan that they have launched an invasion of Manchuria following an incident in Mukden. The Chinese are asking to borrow more weapons in response.

>>317794
Tell China that we are no longer giving weapons for free. If they want much needed supplies, then they can trade land for them or buy it. Keep an eye on South America. Also, can you give me a few things Germany is Importing? Oil, stuff like that?

>>317806
We could arrange a deal where we set up mines and such in their lands where we extract payment using local workers and such. Forget conquests in Europe for land for Germans just send some to colonise china!

>>317835
That was the direction I was going for. If they deny giving land, we can just rape the land for resources using the local population as slaves

>>317857
Slaves is too harsh a word, I much prefer "minimum wage" workers. Let's just ignore the fact the Chinese don't have a minimum wage right now.

To be frank we could pay them in housing, food, entertainment (recreation room with shit they can't afford individually; music player and such) and a small amount of money (which they can sped in stores in-built into the site owned by us). The sort of deal where they can't really buy much but are far better off working for us.

We could even deploy some of our troops to act as security, who cares if they just so happen to assist the local warlord in conquering his neighbours.

>>317876
Alright. If we can't get actual land, we will use this idea and provide a little town for the "workers" to live.

>>317806
The Chinese claim not to have any money at the moment, not the land to spare, having so recently suffered a great flood. They suggest, however, that once they secure it, they'll give you Qingdao, as well as half of the Shandong peninsula.

>>317904
Any estimates on the population of the region?

Also ask if we can be allowed to establish German-state-owned industry outside of those locations?

>>317904
We should look into acquiring land and resources in South America as well. Discretely of course.

>>317921
I would assume so. I will only make the deal if we get all of the Peninsula. We are giving a lot of value. Especially since we are going against Japan. >>317904

>>317921
Somewhere around 8 1/2 million, with Qingdao making up ca. 3 million of them.

>>317958
Would there be any kickback internationally from us gaining these colonial lands?

Unless we are going to be embargoed to hell and back or something. Go ahead with it but push for more land, perhaps promise that we could train some of their troops?

>>317965
>Would there be any kickback internationally from us gaining these colonial lands?

Yes, Japan for one would be upset at the sudden German presence in the Yellow Sea, and the Allies have ports in China which would be threatened.
The Chinese will not cede more land, pointing out that it is as rich as the entirety of Bavaria.

>>317983
As long as they still agree to the trade deal, then we have a deal. WAIT. What do our military leaders say about the probability of China winning the war?

Make sodium potassium bullets for unarmored enemies
https://youtu.be/T85d7ST2yxU

>>317997
They estimate the chance to be the square root of -1.

>>317997
China's primary problem in real life was that the country was badly supplied, poorly armed, ill-trained and otherwise unprepared.

Our presence, supplying cheap supplies and weapons will certainly help to slow if not turn the tide of the war. Especially considering china has more men than japan so if they can equip and supply them they could win.

>>318002
I will take it up with the research division.
>>318006
Well shit.
>>318014
While that is true, we would have to supply an Entire Army's worth of Material. Something our country can't and won't do. If China wins a few battles, maybe we will take another look.

>>318028
We don't need to supply an entire army, like I said they were under-supplied but did have some stocks of their own.

Plus, there is nothing saying we can't offload a bunch of WW 1 surplus on them along with any outdated weapons, ships and such of our own.

Not to mention that we can train their troops to a higher standard (and make them loyal to us, for later taking control of china via coup).

>>318071
That is possible. Send propaganda and trainers. I will consult with the Generals to make a rough estimate on how much supplies would be needed

>>318071
>>318094
So will you accept China´s proposal?

>>318111
Well it depends. How much would we have to provide to turn the tide?

>>318113
To turn the tide? probably a years productions worth of equipment. Remember you sold most of your surplus to the Japs.

>>318113
We don't really need to turn the tide, the colonial lands alone are a great reward, not to mention the prestige it would give us...

>>318125
....Though seemingly it wouldn't take that much equipment to turn the tide!

>>318127
Against Japan? I'd say that sounds about right.
>>318125
Alright. We will give them unmarked vehicles and weapons

>>316680
I'm back bitches!

>>318140
Sup brah?

>>318139
That is kind of pointless, considering the japs will notice they are using the same bullets and guns as their enemies. Not to mention the fact that china suddenly gives us this huge bit of land, for "no reward".

>>318145
Hey, what's the current events? I'm a bit late on returning.

>>318028
If possible try with stronger alkalins like rubidium and cesium

>>318152
We are still dealing with the economy, primarily by giving the chinese and japs weapons.

From the japs we got money, from the Chinese we are getting a huge amount of land. The land is valuable for it's materials and also for it's 8 1/2 million population.

>>318156
That's for the eggheads up in the Alps.
>>318148
If they actually do win this war, we can say we are going in to help things cool down. Nobody will believe it, but it will be a cover. We will say that a convoy of ships were hijacked and all of their contents were stolen.

>>318166
Good... Wait. Why are we supporting Japan if we're supporting China?

>>318181
So we can get double the reward. When it blows up in our face though... Well we can deal with that when it comes.

>>318172
Or we could be honest, simply state the truth.


That we seek to have a colonial empire but didn't want to fight the western powers. Thus we decided to assist both sides of this conflict for money, needed seeing how most of the world isn't buying our shit, and for land to settle. Not to mention we could argue we needed a place to send our growing population.

While everyone's dicking around in China, Spread propaganda in Southern Germany even more, Especially in Baden, Bavaria, and Switzerland

>>318194
Well that would surely make both sides angry, and have the world see us as snakes, but it would be the truth. I'll keep this in mind as we continue down the road of war.

>>318181
We aren't supporting the Japs, it was a one time payment of goods for money. The Chinese we have a history of militaristic commerce with us supplying goods for money, resources and now land.


We are going to want to perhaps buy some land off of the Netherlands and brits in Indonesia. To my understand there was a large amount of rubber grown in the region which is a rather valuable resource.

>>318204
>Switzerland
>Southern Germany

So just to be clear, who wants to accept China's deal?

>>318189
That's dangerous as fuck, I say we put that money into our own stuff, like what if Dolfy wins? Prepare at home for a violent upcoming political season. Create HL2 style metro cops to help suppress Nazi ideals, for example.

>>318205
How would It make both sides angry? The Japs are doing the same thing and will be angry no matter what (because we stole their easy colony) and the Chinese won't really care considering if we didn't help then they'd have lost, not to mention they wouldn't offer the land unless they were willing to give it up.

Also it wouldn't make the world see us as snakes? Most powerful nations in the world currently maintain a colonial empire so they can have access to resources, manpower and such. They can't deny they haven't got into wars for land!


The truth is if anyone but the Japs gets angry because we want colonies, then they are horrible hypocrites or non-colonialists.


>>318221
I want to accept it, it provides additional population to tax, resources to trade and use and it gives us power projection in most nations colonies, making war with us seem like a shit idea.

>>318221
Here. I guess I would be the only one able to accept the deal but I do appreciate all the input.
>>318227
Then we would become the Nazis. We have our own party Soldiers and we have the Volksarm.

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>>318221
Yes I know Switzerland is not in southern Germany but I want to expand in there too

Did you actually think I thought that!? HaHA! My god! Somebody hi-5 this guy

>>318249
Do you want to give China weapons though

>>318227
It won't happen, most people in the world either currently live off of the results of colonial empires or are in them where they are unlikely to be told the nation ruling them is against their own existence.

As to Adolf winning? We have successfully kept the general situation good in the nation so I doubt they will suddenly decide to vote for this extremist party. Also we can't really create totalitarian police and then expect reelection.

>>318233
Well we should decide if we should ally with the Japs or China. Now, it's looking like China.

>>318269
Of course we want China, they are a far more useful nation. As of currently they aren't a god damn fascist autocracy like the Japanese!

With china we can make a large amount of money modernising their infrastructure, building (German-)government owned industries, training their armies and supplying it too!

>>318284
If we actually fix our economy, do you think we can build a country the size of China?

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>>318252
Sure but not Japan,
The New Germany doesn't support Tentacru colonies
>>318234
But better police doesn't need to be as strict as the Metro police. Just arm them better and don't allow Racists such as the NSDAP to join the force so they don't go imprison Slavs or kill Jews.

>>318304
Yes we can, the problem for our economy is that we have no one willing to pay for our goods with a reasonable profit margin. Mostly because america just went through a giant economic recession (which did effect our economy because they invested heavily in Germany) and most of the rest of the developed world hates us.

If we can turn china into a consumer nation providing us with cheap raw and processed resources then we can churn out cheap goods, weapons and other such things.

>>318314
Well we can deploy our Redshirts close to next election cycle.
>>318317
We do have a deal where we are their only trading partner. That is a lot of the population needing cheap goods. And soon we can pay our workers more. Maybe we could turn into a manufacturing powerhouse.

>>318328
That is kind of my plan, we build mines, plantations, roads, railroads and other such things in china, we then ship those to our held territories where they are turned into refined materials and then into the end products. All of these steps being government owned for now at least.

We should also build some shopping centres if we can, paying our workers money and "discount" coupons for our stores to encourage shopping with us.

>>318314
You formally make a deal with China, sending them all of your production for the next eight months as well as all of your surplus.

You begin creating a new police force, borrowing from the idea of a military police to create an effective counterweight against the SA. What do you wish to do with them.
Many complain that you still haven´t rebuilt the army, and that focusing on the police ignores the main, external problem.

>>318352
Alright. Do you think we could sell these properties to private companies?
>>318359
Tell them we are taking it in steps and training soldiers to work with people. How is our research division progressing?

>>318372
To be honest I'd keep them in goverment hands until either we feel they can be cared for by private interests (after the economy has recovered) or that the public is complaining about the government owning them.

If neither of those things happen, then I'd suggest keeping them for at least the foreseeable future.

>>318384
Right. But I think we can agree that the private sector might run it a little more efficiently.

>>318359
Arm the police better with MP40s, Bodyarmor, Gas Masks, and light military equipment.
By the way these police are for extreme scenarios and act as a SWAT team, they aren't the first line. Why not experiment with Kevlar instead of Steel to gain popular approval for a police force?

>>318388
I suppose but I feel we should hold onto the mines and railroads if nothing else.

>>318398
Is Kevlar even around?
>>318406
Right. I feel like the Administration could run it well.

>>318429
Nope, that's why I say try to create something similar to it.

>>318372
>>318398
You begin making a SWAT team of sorts out f your new police force to keep order. It awaits deployment.

You assure your party that you are training the soldiers to work with people, not weapons. The research is continuing as usual.

>>318445
Well you can put it on our long list of things to research. Below those bullets and bombs.
>>318481
Sounds good. Just keep a close eye on the Chinese-Japanese war

>>318481
No the new force IS the SWAT

>>318485
Well isn't SWAT an american thing?

>>318489
British have SWAT also. Many nations have SWAT because it is an abbreviation for Special Weapons And Tactics.

>>318496
Right. But couldn't we call it something else? It is still used for the same purpose, but we need it to be German.

>>318489
Yeah but thats the closest thing to this force. The difference is that ours doubles as a national Guard and is active at certain checkpoints

>>318525
We could call it like the German National Response and Defense

>>318507
Well there was one other acronym considered in real life;

Fast Action Response Teams


Take one guess why it wasn't used...

>>318534
Didn´t sound German enough?

>>318563
The acronym comes out thus; F.A.R.T

It is difficult to international training operations when most of the nations you could do it with will laugh at your acronym constantly.

The Kuomintang enter Qingdao, and quickly secure the Shandong peninsula to thwart Japanese incursions from happening. However, a scandal has arisen in china. apparently a small contingent of Japanese artillery was surrounded and captured just west of Mukden, quite clearly of German origin. The Chinese demand an explanation to how japan got such large numbers of German artillery, which has been confirmed to not be part of the Chinese supply.

>>318594
Ahhhh. Here we go. We can lie and tell them the Japanese got it from rebels that we sold it to a few years ago, or tell the truth that we sold it to Japan before we knew what they used it for.

>>318594
Shit must have been stolen we dindu nuffin

>>318594
"Simple, we needed money which you could not provide in order to fund our country for another month. The Japanese were willing to purchase our surplus so we assisted them."

>>318607
Germany wuz a good boy.

>>318606
>>318607
>>318609
The votes are currently 1 1/2 for lying and 1 1/2 for telling the truth. Which one is it?

>>318619
Tell the truth but say that we sold them the wares before they invaded and we had no idea on what they intended to use them for.

>>318626
This, we needed money, something the Chinese are unable to supply and we knew that the Japanese wanted weapons and such for something. We didn't know what.

>>318637
Literally the "We a good boy. We dindu nuffin"

>>318641
Not really, we admit that we sold them weapons, we explain why and state we didn't know where or when they planned to deploy them, hell for all we knew they planned on replicating our weapons using the bought stock.

>>318651
It's German engineering. It is too much for their feeble Japanese minds to comprehend.

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>>318626
>>318637
You decide to admit to the Chinese that these are your wares, which you sold to Japan. You excuse yourself by saying that you didn´t know that they were going to use it to invade China.
"You didn´t know? even a blind man could see what Japan was up to! Have you rice pudding in that skull of yours in lieu of brains?"
The Chinese rip apart your contract, and say you will never see a penny of Chinese cash, not a square inch of Chinese land.

Well, that's all for today lads. Perhaps more of the old players will

>>318666
Well fuck. Bad news and Satan Trips.

>>318666
*come back tomorrow. Have an unfinished map of

>>318666
All in favour on invading china say I?

>>318680
How? We can't afford it and we don't have any soldiers there except maybe a couple thousand. The Chinese have our tanks and guns. We walked right into this.

>>318682
The Chinese received very few of our weapons since we sold our surpluses to the Japanese.

As to a lack of soldiers, our nation has been calling for us to expand our army, why don't we fulfil that want?

As to not affording it, we can't afford anything without a market to sell shit to!

>>318689
You sold the vast majority of your surplus to the Chines, the Japs just bought the leftovers

>>318689
That's right. I forgot it was gonna take months to give them all of the supplies. Tomorrow we will talk to Japan about having a joint operation with them

>>318532

What about the Deutsches Republik Korps, or GRC in English?

What if we begin funding a space program/missile experiment?

>>319806
Uhh... Let's just wait a couple of years before getting into that.

>>319945
But we need to boost the economy, what better way to do so than a space project.
We wold also get rocket artillery on the side.

>>318666
War on China? Let's do it guys. Das U-booten sind aus? Full invasion until we get paid. Ocean Landings from the Philippines, and maybe get the US on our side in exchange for our assistance under the table in War Plan Red.
Noone steals our money, let's build a carrier if possible too.

>>320059
And if we can't from the Philippines, Osaka will work

>>320059
We have plans for a carrier, but we literally can't build a carrier. It would bankrupt the country and guarantee a Nazi victory next election.
>>320006
I know that NASA gives like 3 for every dollar spent or whatever is the ratio, but it also costs billions for an even functioning one. I do wan't you to try and get Robert Goddard from America. We will bring him here and teach him German. Tell him he has the full support of the German government for his work. Do this AFTER the German-Chinese war ends

>>320229
Can we at least work on missiles?

>>320240
After the war, go and try to get Goddard. If we get him, we can start working on his "rockets"

>>320262
>After the war.
>not during the war.
What better way to test a new weapon then live practice?

>>320264
Right, but we don't have any progress on the rockets and we need all of our material for the war. As much as I want to test it, we don't have any prototypes yet.

And we're back!

>missiles
It's the beginning of 1932 lads, rocket science is at least a decade away.

>War on China

That may be misguided, remember that the Chinese have the same equipment as your soldiers, and have A LOT more men than you.

But anyway, what do you want to do?

>>320480
Well Robert Goddard dabbles in it in America. But yeah, actual rockets are years away,
Alright, as China goes, they have some equipment. Some Surplus and maybe a month's worth. We are going to do a surprise attack on the peninsula on which we were promised. I also need a member of my cabinet to identify some valuable ports and mineral rich locations in China. Any takers?

>>320486
And how are you going to do that? The Kriegsmarine can only move around 50.000 men at a time to China, and it would take 3 months until the fleet returned back to Germany.

>>320544
I'll have to ask Japan for a staging ground. They might be mad but nothing a few hugs can't fix.

>>320582
We could even promise the Japanese a shared weapons development facility. Taking advantage of the fact our developers can produce better weapons than the Japanese.


Also OP/GM raises an important point, we have a small transport navy. I feel we might see reason to expand on this slightly, as transport ships would be fairly cheap to produce but would allow for larger primary landing forces to be sent.

Alternatively, we could ask Einstein to create some sort of super-weapon to allow us to destroy the Chinese.

>>320624
We could use some trade ships too. Stick the weapons inside of cargo containers. Also, I know he is working on something like that, but we can't just say to make a super weapon.

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>>320582
The Japanese say that they don't want you to invade, as their own invasion draws to a close and peace is in sight.
>>320624
You decide to build some more transport ship. Each transport can carry a good 500 men. How many will you build?

>>320669
Well fuck. We can't just launch ships from our island by Greece and expect them to travel all the way to China. Do we have any allies on the way there? Also couldn't we just rent cargo ships from companies?

>>320669
How many could we produce without putting unreasonable strain on the government budget?

Keeping in mind of course we are going to begin a rapid expansion of our land forces in the coming months, partly to assist in the invasion and also because our people want us to.

>>320732
The current budget could handle the building of ca. 50 transport ships, but there is always the option of raising taxes of cutting spending elsewhere.

>>320480
We can build STG44 prototypes and work on revolutionizing the country's military. And as for an Economic collapse, we could try to found a union like the EU with neighboring countries

>>320721
The only nations in the region with large naval bases we could launch from are; Russia, Britain, France, the Netherlands and probably one or two others I missed.

Three of those won't want us becoming more powerful unless we signed some sort of alliance or nonaggression deal at least.

One of those won't assist us considering we aren't communist unless we offer something in return.

Honestly the Russians might be our best bet or we could attempt the insane and get the Americans to let us base out of Guam or such.

>>320669
Ask if we can help, the Chinese robbed us and we will hand most captured land over to them

>>320761
>STG44
Those are still a good decade away, beginning to research it now would take at least 8 years

>>320766
Well the Americans are off the table. Russia still hates us. And the rest don't want anything to do with our military. I think we got screwed. We gave China free stuff and got fucked. I want to invade as much as the next guy, but they are around the world.
>>320761
No one in Europe wants us. And I don't want them

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>>320766
The Americans. The Rooskies hate our guts and America's second most spoken language at the time was German

>>320792
I mean we could put a few spies in America but it would take years before they could do anything of value.

>>320751
Build 35 such transport ships.

I then want to know something else, how many troops can we equip with our "standard" gear.


>>320761
A better suggestion regarding china; we could deploy some close air support vehicles brought by freighter once we secure a landing zone. They would certainly be effective against early tanks and any troop formations.


>>320781
>>320792
So it's settled? If we go ahead with an invasion of china we ask the Americans for basing rights?

>>320777
To build SMGs with Rails and a high Caliber?

>>320781
Not even Austria?

>>320798
We can't invade China. We can take and maybe hold that peninsula and the surrounding land, but not take mainland. The americans aren't giving us a base anyway. We would have to pay for it, and we don't have the money for it.
>>320808
Maybe Austria, but it is just one country. We have alliances with countries which I see is enough.

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>>320768
The Japanese say that China has started peace negotiations already, as internal problems and the loss of Manchuria proper have severely drained the KMT's ability to wage war. They have also set up a puppet state, Manchukuo, in Harbin, and do not wish to do anything that could jeopardise their victory.
>>320766
Or, you know, you could focus on Germany and Europe again instead of trying to intervene in a conflict half a world away.

>>320811
We should just realize we fucked up and move on. There will be a day where we invade China, but that day is not soon.

>>320811
Okay, but can we ask for our money that the Chinese owe us?

>>320799
Yes, historically research on them was started around this time and finished in 1932.
>>320808
Austria actually likes you, but feels a bit neglected.

>>320825
Then do some research! And as for Austria, send it military supplies and offer an anschluss

>>320825
Well then, in light of how the projects in the east have failed we should begin to develop closer relations with Austria with the eventual goal of absorbing them.

Perhaps we could offer to extend the autobahn into their country?

>>320819
No. They won't give us anything.
>>320843
We are researching vehicles and Einstein is doing his thing. You can add it to the list.
>>320848
Good plan. Give them an olive branch

>>320850
Additional plans would be;

1) Combined military training programs.

2) Equipment development (e.g the euro-fighter), programs

3) Exchange programs between our schools.

>>320861
We can do that but Austria isn't that big of a power I don't think.

>>320850
No I meant from the Japanese once they win.

>>320819
You can ask, but they´ll probably just tell you to go fuck yourserf.
>>320848
You begin improving relations with Austria, and send the Austrians an offer to extend the Autobahn to their country. They gladly accept.
>>320843
You offer the Austrians to be Anschlussed. They say they admire your boldness, but no.

>>320863
It really isn't but in saying that nor is Germany.

>>320868
We aren't the worst, but we are not in our prime.
>>320864
They are gonna laugh at us

>>320866
Shit when did my trip dissappear

>>320890
Alright. So build that Autobahn into Austria, cancel our invasion plan, and I want to try to see if we can install a few spies into America.

>>320940
This, cancel the construction order for those transport ships.

>>320940
You decide to build an Autobahn into Austria. They are now very friendly towards you.

>>321022
Alright, cool. Invite their scientists to come to our facilities to cooperate in research.

>>321027
We could suggest the mutual development of a new rifle to make standard to our armies, so that our nations armies can support each other more effectively in war.

>>321046
Ahhh. Yeah. If they agree, we will share the research

>>321051
We should probably decide on what sort of rifle we want to actually develop. Some sort of semi-auto rifle could be useful or we could buy a stock of BAR's and attempt to modernise / adapt to our rifle round. That'd give us a head start on developing a automatic rifle.

>>321027
>>321046
You decide to make a shared research agreement, which Austria, having few scientists of note, readily accepts. They are not sure about the weaponry part of the agreement though, as you are not allied with them.

>>321078
Well we need to look at the semi auto rifles from the Great War. I want more stability. Maybe look at the Mauser and do a complete overhaul.
>>321100
Well in that case, propose an alliance. We then can Anchluss them later

>>321100
Offer an Economic union like the EU? And offer an Alliance with them

>>321118
I personally dislike the Mauser series of rifle. I find it to be reasonably good rifle but I feel making a rip off lee-enfield MK 3 would be far better, even more so if we can get it semi-auto.

I am also confused, what do you mean "more stability"?

>>321138
The Enfield is good, but I do want to work on taking out the bolt. A for stability, we shouldn't need it for a rifle.

>>321154
True having a bolt-Acton rifle in WW 2 or anywhere else would be a serious penalty but the Enfield is a good platform to work from. As I said, if we can replace the bolt with a semi-auto loader then it will serve as more faithfully than most rifle families.

Alternatively, Bar's could be modified, using their design as the basis of a automatic rifle in our calibre as I suggested.

>>321177
Are we breaking history roleplay then? If we are, I want an M1 Garand rifle. It was beautiful.

>>321179
There is nothing to say the Germans would've went with another nations rifles as this basis of their own if Hitler hadn't been such a egotistical maniac, convinced that German engineering couldn't be beat.

Also the Garand is a lovely rifle but I prefer the Enfield, we could compromise with a BAR-based automatic weapon when we get round to developing that?

>>321196
Why not both? Make a Garand-Enfield sort of rifle, and a good and heavy firing automatic rifle.

>>321216
The problem is fusing the traits of multiple weapons is hard, adding more makes it far harder. We can secure a stock of garands to help us come up with improvements to the rifle though.

>>321237
Well I like the Enfield, but I LOVE the Garand. What would be the trouble of putting the reloading system into the Enfield?

>>321240
Ignoring the difference in calibre (which is ignored anyway since we are going to adapt it to fire german bullets) there is little stopping us I suppose.

Hell why not it'll at least produce a interesting result.

>>321246
I'm sure there will be some wiggle room.

>>321249
All we need to worry about now is the Austrians wanting a different rifle.

>>321266
I don't think it matters. We have more scientists and more productive capabilities.

>>321275
True but the reason we are doing this is because we want good relations. The rifle is something we could do by ourselves without any real losses.

I love how you are just here talking about rifles when you could just ally them

>>321283
They should be fortunate for such a good opportunity. But yeah, we should buddy buddy them.
>>321291
A good rifle is every German's right

>>321293
What we are really look forward to is getting a willing anschluss because that'll place us in a far better position internationally; Germany regaining it's land, peacefully.

>>321315
Especially since Austria is fairly developed. We will try in a year or so.

>>321330
If we can fuse our armed forces (air-force, army and technically navy even though Austria has none) when it comes to equipment and training, fuse our research projects, establish a common market, fuse our rail and road networks then we will be one country in all but name.

>>321346
Alright. At that point,we won't even need to annex it. Unless we want to.

Right, so have you come to a conclusion about Austria?

>>321356
At that point we could simply put forward a union of government, both to save money and also because we are both Germanic peoples. We should stand truly united against the threats the world poses.

>>321388
Yes, Joint production of a Garand-Enfield type of weapon, and the meshing of the trade networks.

>>321388
We will continue with the combined Austrian-German rifle development program. The goal of it being to create a Lee-enfield M1 Garand hybrid (semi-auto from the M1 but otherwise Lee-enfield unless M1 is better) loaded in a German rifle calibre.

As to other deals with them, see if they are willing to perform combined army training operations and might let us link our railways into theirs.

>>321397
>>321403
You tell the Austrians that you want to make a new prototype rifle with them. They recluctantly accept.

What now?

>>321416
Generally just improve our peoples opinions of Austria and try to improve relations.

See if they want an alliance with us.

>>321416
>Reluctantly
Fucking assholes.
Talk to them about meshing the transport system. Link any railways that have not been done so.

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>>321424
The Austrians are relieved at your offer of alliance, and readily accept. Austria is now in your sphere.
>>321426
You merge the rest of your transportation systems to Austria's. This will take ca. three months.

What now?

>>321530
How friendly is Romania and Bulgaria? Like on a scale of 100

>>321537
Romania: 65
Bulgaria: 90

>>321573
Alright. Lets work on Romania. Send an envoy and see if we can work on lowering tariffs for both countries.

>>321594
You successfully negotiate a bilateral reduction of tariffs between you and Romania. They like you slightly more now.

>>321786
Alright. My end plan is to get them to Anchluss. It will take more than just high likeness. Now, lets try the same with Bulgaria. We need to have people buy our goods.

>>321814
Anschlussing the Balkans would be a very divisive thing to do, and would require near-puppeting of the local governments. Why not anschluss something closer to home?

>>321874
This, we are going to try for Austria then we will see how close they are to us.

>>321888
Nice. Impressive. But, we should really talk about our end plan. If OP is going to go for a while, should we focus on an end plan? The takeover of Europe?

>>321915
Honestly? To eliminate the reasons the nazis come to power or kill hitler. That is the original goal of the game.

As to personal goals, I want to make Germany great again into a colonial power. It was why I liked the deal with china.

As to other goals, how about unifying all of the lands taken from us after WW 1?

>>321934
Well of course tell the nazis to fuck off, and make Germany a global power, but I want more just our land. I want all of Europe. In fact, I want it all. Except Africa.

>>321961
I agree with that, kind of. I don't feel conquest is advisable, lest we awake the sleeping giants.

However we can take lands in Indonesia, china and such for ourselves.

>>321980
What if we become the giant?

>>322001
If you think we can destroy America, Russia, France and Great Britain.

>>322010
Ha. No. But, we could become enough of a threat to ween them off of us. Now france, lets be real. Other than their large landmass, they are riddles with inefficiency. We have a lot of good traits that Hitler doesn't have. I don't want to kill jews. They are helpful. I also do now want to spend valuable war materials bring and killing jews at hige camps. If it did happen. We will have to play the long con, but I do want a German Empire.

So what are you going to do now?

>>322070
Just keep working to hold down the fort. With the new trade deals, we should see a little more money. Unless my ally has an idea. Also, we put spies in America right?

>>322070
See if Austria is willing to perform combined army training operations.

Check with the rifle program, what have they developed and when do they expect to be done.

Expand our army, navy and air-force without straining our nations budget surplus.

Go talk to our other allies like the Greeks, see if they would be interested in the rifle project.


An update on the Nazi party?


>>322101
Pretty much.

>>322101
A few spies have been put in america, but they haven´t had much luck. Apparently people with thick German accent are not considered trustworthy in the US.
>>322111
Austria agrees to joint army training, but where?

The rifle program is still only getting started, with motorized units being given the highest priority for funding.

You expand your military slightly, to 210.000 men, and have the navy build another destroyer. You also increase aircraft production, to 1 1/2 per day.

All your allies would like to join the rifle project.


The Nazis are mostly just chilling, although there has been a worrying uptick in Anti-emitic crimes recently.

>>322176
We will perform the training exercise near the German-Austrian border, as if we were performing a combined defensive action against an invasion from, let us say, the east.

Let our allies join the rifle project but they must pay a small one time fee to help fund it.

Grant an increase of funding to the rifle program to purchase factory space from private groups.

Send an increased number of our police to patrol Jewish-majority areas. Also create a data-base of who is perform these crimes, political alignments are a priority.

>>322224
Wait a minute, Hanz. The motorized units still have priority. If there is some cash left in the budget, it is yours. But the research division is my baby.
>>322176
Move the spies to the midwest.

>>322256
The idea of sharing it with our allies is a solid one, I fail to see your reason for complaint. It's not like I lowered their priority rather I am raising the rate of production just to avoid the present bottleneck.

>>322277
Give me an estimate on the rifle's completion.

>>322224
You set up a training exercise near your shared border. It goes well. You also let your allies in on your new rifle program, bu Romania denies paying a fee for research they´re not sure will benefit them.
Police are now more common in Jewish-majority areas, and tensions start to simmer down for now.
>>322256
You move your spies to the Midwest, to keep watch over the cornfields and soy farms.

>>322314
Hell if I know but considering they are producing it for our units they must've been successful in making one that met our standards.

As to when it will be finished? We alone have 210,000 troops plus the navy and air-force to equip. Add in the Austrians, Greeks, Romanians and Bulgarians forces to get a good estimate.

>>322343
Do we have a working prototype yet?
>>322340
I hope the spies will do their best to work into the German dominated governments in the flyover states. Also, divert 1/4 of the research division to the Rifle project. After that, get them back when the rifle is completed.

>>322340
Ask the Romanian if they want their troops to one day be surrounded and unable to use their own guns because they ran out of ammo and we are all using a different bullet from them.

Ask them if they don't want to be able to rely on our stocks of ammunition in times of war if their factories are hit.

Ask if they doubt a modern, semi-automatic rifle won't improve their armies ability to fight.

Ask if they don't want to foster closer relations with all of our allied nations.

Ask them all this then ask if they want to join one last time. They won't receive another chance but only if my partner in ruling agrees?

>>322374
What kind of rifle are you trying to make?

>>322405
>>321403
We had like an hour conversation about it

>>322412
Yeah and I'm not sure what conclusion you came to

>>322412
This.

I think we finally settled on a semi-auto fusion between the lee-enfield and the M1 Garand but loaded into a German rifle calibre.

There was also mentions of buying a stock of BAR's, to use as the basis of a Lee-enfield and BAR hybrid automatic rifle, but I don't think much came from it.

>>322427
Forgot to mention the BAR / Lee-enfield hybrid was to also be for a German rifle calibre.

>>322427
>>322426
Here. Also, the BAR idea is getting put to the side.

>>322450
I suppose that would be wise. We can develop a automatic rifle later when we see a need for one.

>>322427
Right then. This research should take around 30 months.

>>322504
Just to make sure there is no confusion;


The research for a semi-auto Lee-enfield / M 1 Garand hybrid loaded in a German rifle calibre is 30 months from the current point in time?

We should work on improving relations with Iran and help them with their industry and tech. Historically, Iran was very pro-Axis, but ultimately during the middle of the war they were invaded to prevent them giving another front to Hitler. With them on our side and with better technology, we'd have a strong ally that could secure middle eastern oil resources.

>>322527
That would give us access to a tactical resource we currently lack a huge amount of.

Personally, I think we need to get Austria under us first.

>>322527
Huh. That's actually a very good point.
>>322504
I want to schedule a meeting with Iran's "leader"

>>322536
It's the Shah :)
New Persian Empire when?

>>322571
I never really liked the Persians, but we can tell them that.

>>317097
Forgetting pick related
Gustav "I could have prevented this" Stresemann

>>322522
Yes, it should be completed in 1935.
>>322527
It´s Persia at this point, but you can still improve relations.
>>322536
You schedule a meeting with the Shah of Persia. He gladly accepts,honoured to have a great power besides Britain visiting his country. What will you talk about?

>>322614
We speak to him of our great reverence for the people of Persia and their history. We also speak of the similar struggles of our peoples, how we have been pushed around for far too long. It is time for our place in the sun, and only together can we claim it.

>>322450
Not anymore! I say we develop off of the BAR to make a lighter, cheaper, and better firearm that can function as a Rifle.

>>322703
That is part of the reason I suggested it; why bother doing the research when we can buy someones work and improve on it?

>>322614
"It is nice to meet with a leader of a country as large as yours. I come to bring news. I have seen how the British have mistreated you. They have neglected you and left you to rot. I see a future in your country, so I propose a a deal where we will trade almost without tariffs and you will have a dealer with only the best merchandise. From this, we will grow a beautiful relationship that can grow into an alliance.

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>>322646
>>322723
You speak at length with the Shah of Persia, and compliment his country, praising its history and its people. You then bring the matter to the British, and tell you that you wish to free Persia from their grip.
"This is good," the Shah says, "and I heartily accept your aid. I only wish for you to guarantee that you will stop the British from intervening when we leave their influence."
And with that, you leave. Two weeks later, the Persians leave the British fold, and go on their own path.
The British, however, intervene, demanding that the Persian reinstate the British institutions they kicked out or face military repercussions. They say it is only to curb "the excessively large German sphere" of influence in the world.

>>322903
Announce to Europe that Iran is our friend. Also invite them to our gun project. Also offer them a 25% sale on our military wares.

>>322903
Britan should still be jaded from the Great War, so we might be able to call their bluff. Still, I'm sure one of you should come up with a more clever response to them. I think we should say something along the lines of "We shall stop interfering with Persia so long as you stop interfering with X country."

>>322924
This.

>>322903
I would suggest we point out that the British sphere of influence is god damn huge, like 5 times larger and yet they are afraid of our country for assisting a country wanting to be independent.


Point out we have no deals with the Persians besides promising them assistance in getting their independence.


Point out to the Americans this is another nation wanting to be free from the British, rather like themselves once.


We Germans don't want war. We want peace, trade and advancement of all mankind. Yet these Brits play world police against us.


Do the Brits want to cause a second world war, do they see such a huge loss of life as a good thing!

>>322924
"Persia is a friend of Germany, and >>322924
we will not hesitate to help our friends in their quest for self-determination." The Allied nations are visibly upset at your posturing, but take no action.
>>322929
Which country should they stop interfering with?

>>322961
Issue this too.
>>322968
Is Iran pumping oil?

>>322929
"The Great War ended, but the persecution of the German people endures. We find ourselves a nation surrounded, the British claim us a menace, while they persecute the faceless and unnamed across the world; likewise do the French. What menace are we, those who would support the sovereignty of a nation as old and wise as Persia. Surely an era has descended where those who would boldly step forward for their brethren should be applauded. The citizens of the world should not stand for such oppression and the Good will and faith of the German People will not be dissuaded from their support of the Persian in his hour of need."

>>322979
Oh yes.

>>322982
And this. Pretty cool. Beat the British at their own game

>>322983
Alright. Try to trade military supplies for Oil. We can stop importing from non-friendly countries.

>>322968
Well it's not needed anymore because they backed off.
In general though, our foreign policy going forward should be to support nationalistic movements worldwide. That way we can brand ourselves as defenders of freedom, which could let us avoid conflict with the allies. We might need to make a clever deal with poland, but in general we could make the USSR the one that has to fight everyone instead of the other way around.

>>323030
I think an Anti-Comintern movement where we build some mutual defensive pacts and possible alliances with the Baltic nations and probably also Finland wouldn't be a terrible move.

But I too, like the idea of supporting nationalistic movements.

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>>323019
>>323030
As 1933 rolls in, the Persians (now the Iranians) have completely aligned themselves into your sphere, while the threatened British actions is yet to come. As nationalist movements across the globe are inspired by Iran's struggle (and quite a bit of German arms and cash) the world looks upon the dawn of a slightly different world. Only problem is, the Brits are sore losers so they've banned Persian ships from using the Suez canal and Strait of Hormuz, meaning that they´re kind of cut off from you. Something must be done.

And that's it for today, I'll see you tomorrow. In the meanwhile, here's a map of Allied and Italo-German spheres of influence.

>>323084
See you same time tomorrow. As for the Suez, maybe we can fund a rebellion. I don't know how our coffers are doing, but there is a growing sense of Nationalism in the world. Any suggestions?

>>323097
I think we should do something related as well, but an attack on something so distinctly British might be an issue this early on. Maybe we should focus on improving relations with the Brits instead, and get them to open up Suez that way. I think we should step up the anti-communist propaganda, and push the "common enemy" idea.

>>323084
>>323097
Why not court Turkey and start an overland route through the friendly Balkans?

>>323119
We assisted the Greeks in the invasion and conquest of some Turkish lands, they probably aren't happy with us.

>>323117
Alright. We can start this and look at the results.
>>323119
Turkey hates our guts. We will get nowhere there.

>>323140
Ah, I see. Improving British Relations or encouraging German shipping of all Iranian goods could be a better method then.

Also, is there a way I can read the first two threads? Catching up on what exactly we've done would probably help

Also we should get to working on a South American sphere at some point. Mexico is probably too close to the US for them to be comfortable with it, but reigniting old ties with Chile and Argentina would be a good way at having some strong allies there.

>>323166
Maybe give the work over to Panama. If we could close the Panama during the war, it could be extremely peaceful.

>>323182
US would definitely get upset if we try anything with Panama. If we want access that way, we might as well just try to boost relations with them.

>>323200
Well we don't really have as much use for the Canal as the U.S. So if an accident were to happen while they were moving a carrier group, it would postpone them for a few days atleast.

>>323210
In that case we might as well set up a group of saboteurs in hiding in panama, waiting to blow the whole thing sky high.

>>323221
Yep. Thats why we should form some sort of friend in SA

>>322982
I love this.
BoB when?
Mobilize and use our Civil Protection (The GRC) to raid British and French Consulates and Embassies.
>>323084
Gunboat Diplomacy? Fund a Rebel Movement in the Great White North (Canada) While Forcing German Ships through the Canal, escorted by Destroyers

>>323117
Fuck the Brits. The King should be tried for crimes against Humanity.
I say we piss them off more.

>>324484
Raiding Embassies is a big leap from where we are at this time

>>323151
Turkey may dislike you because of the war, but they don't like the Allies either. You could get them to be a bit friendlier with you if you tried.
>>324484
Gunboat diplomacy isn't really an option, considering your Kriegsmarine has six battleships against the entire Royal Navy+puppet navies.

>>324957
Whoops, forgot trip

I am of the opinion we should stop trying to piss off the British. Even if you want to you must realise we have more important things to attend to such as;

1) Asking the Persians if they want into the Joint Alliance Rifle or J.A.R.

2) Linking our transport network (both rail and road) up with the rest of our allies.

3) Repairing the economy

4) Further efforts to unify with Austria.

>>324990
But it might be impossible to not miss off the british

>>325002
The question is though is pissing off the British really the best idea?

They are fairly close with the french and many other such groups who we need to trade with. Both for certain raw resources and also so we can have markets for our goods.

>>325048
Well we need to do something with the Suez. Stage a terrorist attack and move troops in to hold the peace. Then we will ransom our troops departure for Iran's movement in the Suez

>>325082
The UK might not take too kindly to you deploying armed soldiers into it's land without permission.

>>324957
Build more and refurbish old U boats from WW1
>>324990
Let's work on all of them, in the meantime, kick the British out of their embassies and give them to others or turn them into money makers.

Besides that, Can I meet with Canada's Prime Minister?

>>324990
>>325095
You decide to improve the navy some more, by refurbishing some of your old U-boats.
You inform the British embassy that they are to leave the country, and that the Embassy shall then be closed. The British are more than a little upset, and threaten embargo on you.
The Canadian PM thinks that even talking to you is too dangerous, being a British dominion and all that.

>>325095
What are you doing? Open the embassies back up

>>325131
Well that is a shame.

Shall we get round to inviting the Persians into our alliance formally?

Adding their numbers to our own we will be a potent force, even more so if we can get the to use the J.A.R.

>>325131
Tell The Canadians we have no beef with them, and we are sorry that our affairs with the brits have concerned and harmed our relations. Essentially, apologize for everything that has happened in recent years.
>>325139
Fuck that, they've infracted the rule that any ship flying any flag can use the Canal.

>>325171
Fuck. That's true. I want to help Iran though

>>325141
The Persians happily accept being your allies and part of the J.A.R.
>>325171
The Canadians say they're sorry a well, but they can't do anything for you
The British maintain that Persia has been "highly aggressive" in its communication with the Brits and are therefore "a national threat". Thus they should not be allowed to use the canal in the interests of security.

>>325223
Supply the Persians with flags and identification papers from countries that are allowed to use the canal. Officially they're not Persian ships, just delivering cargo to and from Persia.

>>325240
This might work. We need to find a way to get the Persians through the canal. A false flag terrorist attack?

>>325271
That would work against us. Partly because it could damage the canal but also because the British are wary of such an attack or at least have announced as such.

>>325271
It's entirely possible that any connection back to us could cause a war. It's too risky to fabricate any kind of military action.

>>325287
Well giving hundreds of ships a year fake papers isn't a good plan either. I think we burnt our bridges of diplomacy. Maybe run a campaign showing children starving because of the lack of trade

>>325303
Fake papers =/= an attack on their soil. Smugglers have registered their ships to different countries for centuries to get around trade. It's one of the most common things done to avoid restrictions.

>>325310
This, I mean if all else fails then we can just invade turkey and work on getting a land connection that way.

>>325310
Sure but for an entire country to do it as a permanent solution? I agree attacking the brits is bad, but we need something for the long term.
>>325318
Maybe. Turkey is still fairly powerful and our economy is still in the dumper

>>325322
We have most of eastern Europe on our side, certainly have a tech advantage and if we perform some more combined training operations we will be far better trained.


There are just two things we need to figure out; who gets the land and what will be the worlds reaction?

>>325341
Well we can talk to our Generals. If they think we can pull it off, we will begin planning. If we are going to be the biggest force, we want the biggest piece. The world will not look kindly but they seem like they can't or won't do anything to us

>>325341
Eastern Europe hates you, actually. The Balkans is where your sphere of influence lies.
>>325318
You could also do covert operations in Turkey.

>>325365
I refer to the Balkans as eastern Europe as a matter of habit, I apologise for any confusion that might cause.

>>325365
Alright, talk to the generals and have them decide if we can have a war with turkey.

>>325378
No problem.
>>325420
The generals say that *technically* you could defeat Turkey in a war, attacking from both sides, but it would leave the country weak to Soviet attacks, and might spark n international crisis. Why not try to make friends instead? They're sure you could convince Turkey to lay some railways through them, for your mutual economic benefit. Of course, they´re generals and know jack about foreign politics, but maybe they're on to something.

>>325458
Alright, send an envoy to Turkey

>>325458
Well clearly we just need to strengthen our nation until such a thing isn't a risk. We can do this by assisting our allies in strengthening our economies and by further join development projects.

We'd be in a far better position if we could get Austria to unify with us.

>>325458
Sounds like we need to build a railroad.

>>325460
You send an envoy to Turkey, to a lukewarm greeting. They ask you to state your business.
>>325468
The economy is bottoming out right now, so it should start strengthening again within a few months.
The Austrians are still quite hesitant towards unification, not seeing what purpose it could possibly serve.

>>325491
Safety. But I want to talk to you about your, our position in the world. It has been known that you were at war with Greece. It is also known that Germany supplied weapons for this occasion. I come here with a proposition. The German people are building a coalition to protect against the colonial powers and we want you to be part of that. With that comes lowering of tariffs, entry to our high tech rifle project, lower prices on our state-of-the-art military equipment, and the protection of a mulit-nation Union with Germany at the helm.

>>325507
Not to mention being linked into the autobahn network as we expand it, receiving assistance in industrialising industries and generally just having a few hundred thousand more troops at your back just in case things get dangerous.

>>325507
"And why would we want your union? Turkish arms are ten times better than any foreigners', and the British and French are more than willing to sell us cheap goods from their colonies. You have proven yourselves to be scoundrels, and not to be trusted."

>>325614
Don't be ignorant. You know the German planes can outmaneuver any other plane and the tanks are the best of their kind. When our gun project completes, it will be the best firearm in the world. Not to mention the hundred of thousands of men you will have protect and fight with you. The goods the French sell you are cheap, but not quality. Germany has both cheap and quality goods that the world can't get enough of.

>>325644
"You may have a point, but why should we trust you? We can see the writing on the wall, you just want us as a transit point. As soon as we stop being one you'll discard us like last night's Börek."

>>325720
Once we link our autonomy and transportation networks together, it will be impossible to separate. You are an important ally

>>325769
>Once we link our autonomy and transportation networks together, it will be impossible to separate.
"This sounds like a threat."
>You are an important ally
"As much as we need allies, the British, or even, Allah forbid, the Soviets would be better than those who stole from us our capital."

>>325820
The Greeks stole the capitol and we helped because it gave us leverage when we needed it. Now we are strong and want to repay you by bolstering your country

>>325940
"If you wish to make transit through our country, that is fine. But we do not want anything to do with you or your wars."

>>326041
Then we would request a treaty of non-alignment. Germany promises to stay out of your affairs in the future if you agree not to join the British or French spheres, and continue to offer transit.

Hey guys. Back extremely briefly.

OP, please have my party as a minor party that maintains Saxony and represents the peaceful Left wingers.

I hereby declare that whenever there is a lack of enough support for a moderate major party, Green Party backs them so that the Far Right Extremest parties that be, don't win or do as much.

>>326076
The Turks accept your deal, and Persian and German goods flood through Turkey.
>>326112
Alright then, i'll take that into consideration.

There does seem to be a lack of activity right now, so if it doesn't pick up I'll end this session a biit early.

>>326171
Fantastic. I think we should work on our relationship with a few countries. Britan is someone we eventually want to like us, same with the US. However, for now I think we should work on a South American Ally. We'll send diplomats to either Chile or Argentina, whichever thinks more highly of us.

>>326202
You send a cadre of diplomats to Argentina. They are greeted with open arms, and improving relations seems like an easy task.

Alright, I´m going to call it quits for today. Hopefully there will be more people tomorrow.

Maybe when Austria joins, Liechtenstein will follow?

>>326503
Wait, my party office is there and OP said that I was in the majority there by 70%. Is it possible for them to join the JAR team?

>>326527
I wouldn't see a reason why we would stop them. Making our rifle more popular, and by extension German engineering, is always a good thing.

>>326559
Great. On the behalf of Liechtenstein, We accept and Wish to join Germany as soom as we achieve a border. Unless OP has another way to control them.

>>326310
I didnt play as much because my computer is getting fixed so I'm on my phone.

>>326310
And I was busy.

>>326559
I was playing Rising Storm last night, and I kinda fell in love with the BAR. I am sure that in the late 30's we can start work on our own Automatic rifle. Just for Germany though.

>>328969
I love the BAR because it was a solid gun, even more so when you consider it was the first "assault" rifle. The closest thing before it being stuff like the Lewis light machine-gun.


The reason I wanted to use it as the basis for our own assault rifle is because it would give us a head start.

As to other plans, as I am being dragged to a party tonight and thus can't play, we need to continue to improve our economy, improve world relations and strengthen our allies.

Alright, I'm back. Sorry for the delay. What do you want to do?

>>329124
Forgot trip

>>329239
So lets get all buddy with Argentina and see if they need any help and propose some low tariff trade deals.

>>329277
The Argentinians accept to lower tariffs, eager to get their agricultural products onto the lucrative German markets,.

>>329302
Alright. So our gun project is still some months away. How is Einstein doing in his field and what is the current state of the economy?

>>329324
Einstein is well on his way in developing his theoretical state of matter, which he has dubbed the "Bose-Einstein condensate".
The economy isn´t good, but it has begun its upswing, and GDP should return to pre-recession levels by early 1935.

>>329400
Alright, I want to invite Lichtenstein to be a part of the country. I think that is what the green party wanted

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>>329418
The Principality of Liechtenstein holds a plebiscite on whether to join Germany.
It wins by 55% of the popular vote. Around the world people ask, confounded, "What is a Liechtenstein?"

>>329418
>>329497
yay. Yes, any land that we can gain peacefully is a gain my party whole heartedly supports.

>>329538
Well; you've just gained 168 km2 of pretty poor land. What now?

>>329497
Alright. I want to permanently settle some spies in Panama. Have them hide some explosives in drop sites in the country

>>329497
We should meet with Britain now and discuss the state of affairs in the world. Points that we'll especially bring up is that Germany seeks no war with the Empire, that we only wish to see each nation rise to it's fullest potential. We should also bring up the increasing threat of communism, and mention that the greatest defense against Marxism is nationalism, which we are trying to promote.

>>329542
Have we developed solar power yet?

what have my unicorn start ups done in the past few years? has my elite university been built yet?


If we have solar power, I would like to invest in developing Liechtenstein so that they can produce power.

I would also like to help out their factories (if they have any, if not we should be a consumer goods factory).

>>329547
isn't Marxism caused by frustration with capitalism and fury that poverty exists while super rich people exist?

Then the counter would be a combination of showing how poor communist regimes leave countries, and invest in the poor so that they are less poor and thus have upward mobility.

>>329561
That and Jews :)
Jokes aside, mass investment in poorer countries, so long as we can find a way to make this benefit us in the future, is an excellent idea.

>>329545
You decide to send some spies to panama, to settle permanently. they will be ready in three months.
>>329547
The British agree that the two nations should be friends, and the best way to do that is to accept the terms of the Versailles treaty. Only under British guidance can Germany fulfill its greatest potential.
>>329561
Solar power is decades away,
Your unicorn start-ups have mainly just been keeping afloat, except one who misunderstood you and tried making actual unicorns to sell. They went bankrupt.
Your elite university is still a few weeks from being opened, with a decent amount of respected professors having been hired.
Liechtenstein is a country dependent on agriculture, tourism and just a pinch of tax avoidance.

>>329601
Tell them that they are hindering peace and the treaty is gone

>>329601
not bad, not bad.

I was hoping the startups were doing above afloat, but I suppose all they need to do is be there self sufficiently, increasing tech and making sure that if the market becomes more lucrative we have a massive head-start.

Okay, so an agri, tourist and tax avoidance country? sounds workable.
Do we have access to excellent farming knowledge dudes? if so, we could bring a few experts into Liechtenstein to make their farming more efficient. As for tourism, we could put some money (nothing major, just a little bit to give a helping hand) to skilled artists so that they might eventually have a good art display or something to boost visitor numbers.

OP, can my party be the Nationalism for All? Our party platform is to put Germany first, but promote global peace and prosperity for all nations, as well as supporting Nationalism worldwide. We are also extremely anti-Marxist.

>>329626
The British tell you that bellicosity will get you nowhere, and that negotiations will not happen unless you drop that attitude, young man.
>>329641
Unicorn start-ups are never guaranteed to succeed, especially during a recession. What tech should they be developing?
You don´t have the technology to improve Liechtenstein's Alpine agriculture, but you can pay young artists to go there for inspirations. After all, we don't need any more failed artists in this country.