Dear Mr. Hiroyuki,
The board known as /jp/ is well-known as the Touhou Board.
85%-90% of the threads are Touhou-related.
Would you please consider renaming the board /2hu/ and making it a "Touhou only" board?
The original intentions of /jp/ as an Otaku board has failed.
Thank-you,
An Anonymous Poster
>>572496
Where will the vocaloid and monstergirl posters go?
There's no need to rename /jp/, and the occasional thread like >>>/jp/15448870 is nice. It doesn't have to be only Touhou.
I do wish the generals would go away though
Who is your favorite 2hu?
>>572498
>>572501
Then why can't Touhou have it's own board?
It easily could.
Why not have:
/2hu/ - Board for Touhou
This board allows posting of the Touhou PC games, fan games, fan content, merchandise and anything else related to Touhou content.
/jp/ - Board for Otaku
This board is for anything that is not fit for posting on /a/, old/obscure anime and manga, Japanese culture, Japanese Idols, Monstergirls, Visual Novels, Anime/Manga/Figure collecting, BuyFag threads and anything else that could be related to "Otaku Culture".
>>572496
You forgot to mention why you, as a 4chan user, care.
Do you actually want a touhou board? If so then, like you said, you pretty much already have it.
Do you want everything non-touhou to be removed from that board? If so then you know your problems are pretty small compared to a lot of other boards, so just deal with it, and this issue is hardly worth kicking a couple extra generals to the curb only to have to see them create new threads on /qa/ saying they have nowhere to post now.
Is there anything I missed? Please tell us why you want it.
>>572509
Should every franchise have its own board? No, fuck you
>>572516
I care because I frequent many boards on this site, and wish for this site to improve.
I feel that /jp/ is already a Touhou board, so renaming it wouldn't be a real issue.
I myself would rather prefer a solution like this >>572509 so there would be more discussions on /jp/ that are not Touhou, meanwhile having a Touhou board.
>>572517
I do not understand your hostility, as /jp/ is full of Touhou and at the point where it could easily have its own board. Why does Pokemon and MLP have its own boards?
>>572523
/jp/ is already the Touhou board though. With occasional threads that aren't Touhou, not counting the generals which shouldn't be there.
>>572509
/jp/ is already quite slow. There is not point to this.
>>572535
Then why not rename it to something that reflects this?
Or better yet, why not separate /jp/ into two boards?
One board for full-on Touhou posting and threads, and another for general Otaku interests? It's not easy to talk about older anime and manga on other boards, so having a board that encourages this would be great.
I don't see how this is a bad idea at all.
>>572501
Every thread that shows up more than once is a "general", don't delude yourself.
Every 2hu character thread is a general.
OC threads, visual novels, mahjong, denpa, even the touhou gameplay thread is a "general".
Aizu Wakamatsu cam is basically a general, you want that to go too?
You're getting mad at a word and that a thread contains that word.
>>572541
Because, as >>572539 said, /jp/ is slow and does not need a split. If /vj/ were created, then some of the generals in /jp/ like the KanColle, Elona, Valkyrie Crusade, Nutaku, and mahjong ones could go there at least. That would still leave monster girls and idol threads, but it would be a change for the better.
And there's no need to rename it. /jp/ has always been called /jp/, and had Touhou.
>>572545
>Every thread that shows up more than once is a "general", don't delude yourself.
That just isn't true. Yes, there are certain threads that show up often (for example, an Aya appreciation thread), but they are fundamentally different from threads in pic related, where you have people who most likely do not integrate into the rest of the board using mainly only those threads.
There are some generals which should stay in my opinion, such as the Touhou gameplay and yukkuri ones, so maybe I'm basing this too much on only what I want and not thinking of others, but those are Touhou related generals. I suppose it's good that these generals don't spill into many other threads (you will very rarely see a KanColle character thread), but KanColle and monstergirls really do have no reason to be on /jp/.
>>572560
I totally understand what you mean about /jp/ always being a "Touhou Board" but I think a more appropriate name could be used (like 2hu). That's all. It's just something that seems to make sense.
I doubt /vj/ (Japanese Video Games) will ever happen because the idiots of /v/ would always talk against it to the point of no progress. I would love it but Hiroyuki doesn't seem to care or acknowledge it. Maybe he knows that the majority of posting on /v/ is garbage, so splitting the two would result in /v/ becoming a literal /b/ 2.0. It's such an annoyance, since this site prides itself in being of Japanese origin yet we get nothing to exemplify this for gaming.
Anyway, a slow board doesn't make it necessarily a bad board. It's to be expected from a board about Otaku culture. Answer me this: why are Buyfag threads allowed on /a/ and not instead pushed to be posted on /jp/? Wouldn't it make more sense since the very nature of collecting Japanese figures Otaku? I really don't understand some of the rules of /jp/ and why they can't expand the allowance of certain content that would be suitable for it.
What /jp/ really needs is rules that state only touhou is allowed on it. It's only fair because touhou is the real board culture on /jp/. People that want to talk about other otaku things can go to reddit. /jp/ is for touhou and it's time you realized that.
>>572570
t. guy that spends all day bumping touhou threads off page 10 for three months
>>572568
>why are Buyfag threads allowed on /a/ and not instead pushed to be posted on /jp/?
I suppose it's because the figures or whatever it is they're buying in the buyfag threads are generally anime/manga related, and so it just came to be that they ended up on /a/. Same thing goes for DJT, which could have happened to be on /jp/ as well. I've gone to DJT a few times, and seen people complaining that it should be moved to /jp/. The same probably goes for the buyfag threads.
It's hard to please everyone.
>>572570
Restricting discussion to only Touhou topics would be boring.
>>572572
>It's hard to please everyone.
It's common sense. If it's not anime (series, ova, movies) or manga (series, oneshots, etc) then it should be on /jp/.
Even the rules of /a/ basically states that DJT should not be allowed. You could even argue the same for anime and manga figures and merchandise since it isn't really anime and manga.
The real issue here is that the boards aren't harmonious with one-another which leads to issues like this. If we had more content that was allowed on /jp/ like the buyfag and DJT threads then it would be less of a slow board.
This is why I care about things such as this. If changes like this can be made, the boards I enjoy would become better.
>>572588
Its not that DJT isn't allowed on /jp/, but the only language threads that get started are retards who think we're a personal translation service.
"Translate this pls"
"What program do I use to learn hiragana, is rosetta stone okay?"
We used to have fig threads but those fucked off to /toy/ for some reason, or maybe they moved back to /a/ after too much board wiping spam from the old shitposter days.
Honestly, I wish Touhou would go become a general on /vg/. 90% of all touhou threads are just some /d/ threads or random shitposts with a touhou theme so they can stay on /jp/. It's down to shit like "Which touhou has the best spleen?"and "Which touhou's nails would you clip?" and "Which touhou has the lewdest collarbones?"
They never get deleted no matter how much they don't belong, unless they're outright some /pol/ meme, or that 2am Flandre thread for no real reason.(surely, it can't be for quality reasons) A board for touhou would be even worse.
I mean if this is the way it's going to be, /jp/ might as well be NSFW, since it's already nothing but touhou "porn" threads anyway. There's nothing left to ruin.
Remove generals
>>572598
Stop trying to remove /jp/ culture
>>572560
When did those generals started showing up? I remember the mods force monster and kancolle out of /a/ and move them to /jp/ but they both came back because of the anime. Wasn't /jp/ made to keep touhou out of /a/? Sorry never been to that board.
>>572601
"Fat preggo touhous" is not /jp/ culture.
>>572603
GUST has been here always.
Kigurumi has been here always.
Elona just kinda happened long ago, its cutesy, very japanese, and old. Don't worry about it.
Kantai originated on /jp, actually had the choice to go to /vg/, and only showed up on /a/ because of the anime. You know like how "what's your favorite video game food" somehow passes on /v/.
The rest is literally idol shit and mobage.
>>572605
Touhou character appreciation threads are /jp/ culture, regardless of whether you call them "Fat preggo touhous" or not.
>>572598
>A board for touhou would be even worse.
For all the reasons you gave, it would seem a separate board for Touhou would be a god send for yourself.
Doesn't that sound good to you? A containment board for Touhou so /jp/ is left with great threads?
I personally would think that a separate board for Touhou would help weed out the not-so-great threads and enforce a more structured board with actual rules and guidlines. The state /jp/ is in now really shows that enforcement isn't very existent.
>>572496
this kills the /jp/
>>572611
They aren't character appreciation threads. They don't care whether it's about touhou or not. Touhou is just an excuse.
The Jay died in 2012, stop trying to save it.
/jp/ is plagued with awful generals and this is your complaint?
>>572645
It's a slow board. What do you suggest?
>>572670
What do you mean?
Yeah, everyone has their own ideas for fixing /jp/ but my opinion isn't really relevant.
We have these threads now and then on /jp/ and /qa/ and the only consensus that's ever really reached is "what the hell is /jp/ material according to mods?" with the only answer from mods other than dead silence is a ban for threads that apparently aren't /jp/ material.
Hell, a Sachiko thread was deleted the other day after being up for three weeks. I'm still trying to figure out that one.
>>572675
Sachiko has 14 threads!
>>572675
Well the rules clearly state what kind of content should be allowed on /jp/.
I think the issue is that the Touhou content clearly out-ways everything else posted. There are some interesting threads posted here and there but the majority of /jp/ feels like a Touhou general thread that gets auto bumped by borderline Touhou porn. The quality is lacking and its almost depressing. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing bad about Touhou, but I feel the board needs pruning.
There are some really interesting threads from time to time that is not Touhou shitposting, but its rare and in between.
I even asked on /a/ why buyfag threads aren't moved to /jp/ and the comment got deleted. I guess no one wishes to improve /jp/, not even the mods. What's the point of an Otaku board if it isn't being utilized? This site really puzzles me at times...
>>572677
We already know the current mods are cunts.
>>572675
>"what the hell is /jp/ material according to mods?"
3d generals, Japan sightseeing, and anything with touhou in it.
>>572496
>let's rename /jp/ to /2hu/
>let's name /co/ to /cape/
>let's name /mu/ to /rap/
>let's name /OP/ to /fag/
No, I'm tired of this bullshit. Let's just remove faggots who use boards carelessly.
>>572684
Apparently Overlord is /jp/ material now
>>>/jp/15457750
>>>/jp/15458039
>>572688
There's literally nothing wrong with light novel threads on /jp/. As long as you don't go thinking it's okay to spam nudes. However, they need to delete LN threads on /a/ or move them to /trash/ instead of moving them to /jp/.
But yeah, I forgot to add "random /a/ mods' favorite threads" are also /jp/ material.
It's a fucking mess
Nobody knows what belongs and what doesn't
/a/ mods treat it like some sort of pseudo-trash where they can push shit they don't like
Every day it gets more and more generals, making the board faster in a bad way.
Do something
>>572688
I thought it was a fucking joke at first. ``Lmao'', /jp/ truly has the worst moderation in all of 4chan.
There's nothing inherently wrong with generals.
The problem is 4chan's users, not the concept itself.
General/commentary/live threads on 2ch are plenty of fun.
>>572712
What's with them playing favorites for things too? RO is allowed but not other MMOs, Kancolle general is allowed, but not threads about individual characters. Gust is allowed, but not other Japanese games.
Look at this shit too. how is this not a low quality post? >>>/jp/15458355
There should be some sort of contest to see what's the most off topic, least quality post you can get away with while having a Touhou OP.
>>572721
>>572775
Did you forget to type a message or is a ``reaction face'' all you have to say?
>>572795
>There's nothing inherently wrong with generals.
>>572800
I wish being retarded was a permanent ban. We're on /qa/, not /jp/ and you mean textless image replies.
>>572802
I meant specifically textless anime images.
>We're on /qa/, not /jp/
I know, that's why I'm complaining here.
>>572802
Remember when ``reaction pics'' and ``greentexting'' were frowned upon by everyone on /jp/? Good times.
Is this why that one mod is trying to move some /a/ stuff to /jp/ to give it more variety while pissing off everyone?
>>572844
I don't know, but I personally would like more content and variety on /jp/ instead of millions of Touhou threads that are barren of quality.
Some shit barely makes sense anyway. Buyfag threads and DJT threads are allowed to stay on /a/ even though it goes against the board rules. What kind of backwards thinking is that? Why not move it to /jp? Sure, a lot of /a/ users think the board is shit, but after a while people will migrate once other quality content is allowed, posted and moved onto /jp/.
>>572926
Just fucking delete /jp/ and start a proper nijiura board.
>>572926
>Sure, a lot of /a/ users think the board is shit, but after a while people will migrate once other quality content is allowed, posted and moved onto /jp/.
/jp/ also thinks those threads are shit. You could do it, but the result would be very ugly.
>>572935
Old /jp/ is DEAAAAAAAD.
>>572816
Reaction images were only ever frowned on by the autistic no-fun-allowed police.
>>572937
You're not wrong.
What would actually probably happen is that users would complain, get banned, and /jp/ would have yet another completely foreign shitty general in it as it quietly lives out the rest of its life as /trash/ for /a/.
>>572932
>>572935
Maybe /jp/ is the issue then?
If they don't want conversation about figure collecting and learning Japanese...what the fuck is the point of having an Otaku Japanese Culture board if they don't like this kind of shit?
This just blows my mind.
>>572943
Because it never was an ``otaku board'', it was supposed to be like original /b/ but moot was a fucking retard.
>>572943
/jp/ used to have it's own monster girl and figure threads, and every now and then a Japanese language discussion thread pops up. There's nothing wrong with the topics in and of themselves.
The problem is that the mods would be lifting-dropping an entire community from /a/ into /jp/ that wants nothing to do with /jp/, has no appreciation for (what's left of) /jp/ culture, and will have no desire to integrate with whatever autistic standards that /jp/ imposes. When /jp/sies complain about the newcomers they get banned en masse while the /a/nons whine that "they didn't want here to be in the first place so if you want to complain you should complain to the mods." And we all know what happens when you complain about the mods in /jp/.
See also: MGG.
>>572949
Remember when posting "why is /jp/ so bad" was an autoban?
Also I tried staying in monster girl threads but they're WAY too autistic. Way too much, man. Those threads aren't healthy at all.
Probably should've added that I fucking love monster girls.
>>572947
>>572949
It's so fucking sad, cause /jp/ could have been such a fun and interesting board but literally everything about it got ruined and nuked to hell.
Would removing Touhou from /jp/ and making a separate board for it help /jp/'s future? Maybe we could start fresh...make it a glorious place.
Could this be the rebirth of Anime/Random?
>>572965
I don't know if Hiroyuki would even listen, he's only in it for the data and the money.
Also last time the idea of flipside boards (like Anime/Random) caught on, a lot of retards started making comparisons to Reddit and stuff until everyone forgot about it.
Maybe 4chan is beyond help, I dunno, but if Anime/Random, Nijiura, Anime & Manga Flipside, 2D/General or whatever gets added, I'll make sure to contribute.
>>572970
4chan idiots will label anything as le Ribbit.
This site isn't beyond help, it just needs better moderators, better moderation, a bit more structure, actual enforcement in each board's rules and have the user's recommendations heard. And some common sense.
If you look at Double Chan, that site is a fucking mess and truly a shining example of how nice this site is in comparison. It's not perfect, but 4chan is great.
Anyway, let us summon Hiroyuki to grace this thread. We need our prayers to be heard. Ohayou Gozaimasu-Desu.
Could we possibly get something like:
/jp/ - Anime/Random
/2hu/ - Touhou
???
>>572975
2hu doesn't have enough content to sustain 165 threads unless you really start scraping the bottom of the barrel for template threads.
I would prefer it if rule eight were relaxed and /jp/ were given some more autonomy to determine its own future in-house.
>>572620
>and enforce a more structured board with actual rules and guidlines. The state /jp/ is in now really shows that enforcement isn't very existent.
Are you serious? /jp/ is very strict. Most of the users there want less enforcement, not more.
>>572677
>Well the rules clearly state what kind of content should be allowed on /jp/.
The rules and the reality are two different things, anon. The rules themselves were updated to add thinks distinctly not allowed according to the old rules:
>1. All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).
While I don't hate these subjects (save idols), and in fact enjoy quite a few of them, that the rule was updated to directly include them shows that the mods themselves recognize it's not "otaku culture." These things were basically grandfathered into /jp/- if they became a thing today they could very likely end up on different boards like /mu/ or /ck/.
It doesn't help that "otaku culture" itself can be fairly nebulous- it's ultimately up to the meido to decide if something belongs and that is where we are today in this thread and nearly every other thread on /jp/.
>>572816
They still are, at least outside of generals. I don't consider generals as part of /jp/, however, and the fact that the cultures inside and outside of them are so different is why I feel this way.
>>572937
Mostly, yes. However, when you look at the various spin-offs (I can count 10 of them off-hand... How many damn /jp/s do we need?) they have their own issues.
>>573183
>/v/ poster buzzphrase.
If it's been around for long enough it becomes /jp/ heritage.
Though I suppose the other shit memes you mentioned are old enough to be /jp/ heritage by now, and that's awful.
>>573187
It was actually invented by a bunch of tripfags who thought that forcing it on /jp/ would increase quality posting, which it didn't. Feigning incomprehension never got anything what they wanted.
>>573200
So we should stick to the original "Please don't misuse the quoting feature."?
A celebrity board would fix a lot of things,
>No more idolshit on /jp/
>No more plastic gooks on /mu/
>No more ecelebs on /v/, /tv/, /co/
>>573314
You forgot
>More normalfags on 4chan
>>573316
If they wanted normalfags out of 4chan, they wouldn't allow phone users to post and make threads.
>>573313
"Who are you quoting" is a fucking shit-tier meme that was forced on /jp/ by complete fuckwits who didn't realize what a fucking awful idea elevating faux-retardation to meme status was. The fact that to this day there are people who still thought it was a good idea is fucking incredible. It's like you idiots have no fucking awareness at all.
>>573372
My god you're an idiot.
>>573376
And you're a complete shit eater, but fortunately, 4chan has plenty of room for everyone.
>>573372
>is a fucking shit-tier meme that was forced on /jp/ by complete fuckwits who didn't realize what a fucking awful idea elevating faux-retardation to meme status was.
Congrats you just described 90% of all "ironic humor" that started and left /jp/
>>573372
>>573372
Take it easy, anon.
>>573393
Irony was a mistake.
>>573313
The problem is with greentext stories though, not "misquoting", which is typically just paraphrasing what someone said or you're suggesting they meant to say.
>You will never
>Be this
>Do that
>my face when/that feel when
>Walk into game store
>Ask for battle toads
>Pay in spaghetti
>I was a bear
It's those sort of problematic posts cultured in /v/ and brought to /jp/ that the phrase "who are you quoting" was even meant to ridicule, but people use it for anytime someone posts anything using the quotation sign.
Just stick to "too green, didn't read" or something if you have a problem with people using it, instead of rushing to say it at every misguided opportunity.
Even more so since it degenerated into "wayq" by the crowd that thinks everything needs to be abbreviated and brought you such jewels as tfw, mfw, and kys.
>>573372
>elevating faux-retardation to meme status
This is tangential but this might have been the start of the current people of people acting like fucking retards for no reason. I really don't understand why its been the fad lately for people all over 4chan to act like actual babbling retards, not even "I was just pretending to be stupid" but thinking trolling means acting like a complete moron all the time. Warosu's ghost board might have been another factor.
>>573532
>Irony was a mistake.
At least people repost my dumb images I made about it. Maybe this is irony in itself.
Does the flanfly thread creator get banned whenever the threads are deleted?
>>573595
I really doubt it, otherwise they wouldn't be left up for so long all the time.
no.
love,
/jp/
>>574130
kys
>>574195
Please return to /b/ and let /jp/ have a conversation. Thank you.
If only we could get Buyfag and DJT threads out of /a/ and moved to /jp/ ...
Like seriously, why do we need two buyfag threads on /a/ at the same time?
>>>/a/143442773
>>>/a/143442871
This takes away board space for actual anime and manga discussion. Even the rules of /a/ state that this kind of content isn't suitable.
>>574198
I really do not want them on /jp/, especially since those buyfag threads usually feature anime/manga characters and /jp/ does not need more generals, but I admit that they do fit under "otaku culture".
Best case scenario they go somewhere else entirely.
>>574203
figures are literally one of the reasons /jp/ was created
though out of curiosity i looked in the buyfag thread, and it turns out that they're about as fast as /jp/'s fastest general and REAL SHIT besides
please don't send it this way
>>574203
It's fucked up.
Do the mods have some kind of agenda or some shit? /jp/ would become a lot better with content like this, but they barricade it to /a/. The rules of /a/ state it's only for media, while these obviously aren't that.
Why?
>>574198
Heh, buyfat thread with Sonico. That's pretty clever.
Maybe I'm just easily entertained by gradeschool humor, though.
>>574196
baka desu senpai
>>574211
>/jp/ would become a lot better with content like this
No, buyfag threads would not make /jp/ a better place.
>>574209
They usually are better, but the TWO on /a/ right now are pretty crap.
One is basically devoted for thicc girls. Why even have two threads for this shit?
>>574211
>/jp/ would become a lot better with content like this
I don't think a single person from /jp/ has agreed with you in this thread so far.
>>574214
Dude, /jp/ was literally made for content like Buyfag and DJT threads.
moot made /jp/ for Japanese content that wasn't /a/ media. How would it not make /jp/ a better place? It's already a slow ass board that could use some quality.
>>574220
You're somewhat more convincing than /sp/ telling hiro with a straight face that wrestling would be good for /asp/, but only slightly. What you're actually trying to do is offload garbage you don't want to a board you don't care about.
>>574217
We all know /jp/ is either filled with Touhou fap threads, idolshit, or a very small amount of interesting threads and posts.
Besides, /jp/ shouldn't even have a say in this. Content like DJT and buyfag belong on /jp/ because they do not follow the guideline rules of /a/.
>>574223
>Besides, /jp/ shouldn't even have a say in this.
Thank you for coming clean.
Now get the fuck out of a thread that was made by an intended for /jp/ users, and go bitch about your own shitty board somewhere else.
>>574221
>>574228
No, I would honestly like /a/ to actually be about Japanese media and /jp/ about everything else like it was made to be for.
I am pretty sure everyone would love /jp/ to be better but the current state of it is pretty abysmal.
moot wanted it to be like the old /b/ - Anime/Random but what we are left with is Touhou, Idols, and Dolls. Some stuff isn't even allowed that should be.
What happened?
>>574231
I'm pretty sure what what you actually came to do was to feed us shit and tell us to enjoy the taste, but I'll humor you for a moment.
>moot wanted it to be like the old /b/ - Anime/Random
The fact that /jp/ ended up like Anime / Random was a complete accident. It was something the users did without any prompting without him and something that, like, /b/, died after it became shit and everyone left.
>What happened?
Shitposting took over the board, the iron fist of moderation came down on the board like a ton of bricks, self-moderation became deprecated and was later banned, board culture was banned, and after that all that was left was a "high-quality on-topic discussion board" for various niche topics.
>>574236
Also, the userbase filled with no-fun-allowed ignorant shit-eaters who reflexively shit on memes and fun like it somehow made them a superior class of poster, and the staff started banning everyone who exceeded a certain threshold of autism, and between the two that removed everything that was ever remotely interesting about /jp/.
>>574236
So why are you against a fix?
Separating Touhou and have /jp/ naturally flourish on itself doesn't sound like a bad idea.
>>574240
Removing Touhou would extract the last consistent source of non-general threads in /jp/.
The resulting Touhou board would be either extremely shitty, dead, or both. There wasn't enough interest to support /th/ at the height of Touhou's popularity and there absolutely isn't enough today.
>>574242
I don't know what else to say then.
I guess /jp/ is stuck in it's current situation without any good outlook in site?
Would be nice to have a board where everyone can talk about stuff but most of the time it gets easily removed from /jp/ since it's so strict, and /a/ only (mostly) tolerates anime and manga.
>>574245
I suppose if enough people agreed the creation of /jg/ might be reasonably well-received.
Though a bunch of years back moot came to /jp/ and asked if we wanted any changes, and I think the general sentiment that any new auxiliary Japanese board would be replacing /jp/ rather than a new addition.
>>574248
Well this sucks.
Maybe someday things will get better. Could Hiro help fix things...I wonder what he would suggest?
>>574223
>Besides, /jp/ shouldn't even have a say in this.
Hello mod
>>574255
I fucking wish.
Wouldn't solve the issues in /jp/ though.
Well...maybe a little.
PROPOSITION: Creation of new board "/jg/ - Japan / General", for any general thread relating to any /a/ or /jp/-related topic.
Certain "legacy" general threads will be permitted to exist in more than one board. For these threads, no staff direction is intended as to which board is the "correct" topic.
These legacy categories are:
/a/ - immediately topical general threads (recurring series threads, etc) may be posted in /a/ or /jg/.
/jp/ - any topic that has been around on /jp/ from day zero may have a general thread in /jp/ or /jg/.
>>574231
t. guy who doesn't go to /jp/ and just wants to get rid of shit he doesn't like on /a/.
You do this every thread. Go away.
Figure threads should be in /toy/ and /toy/ should be told to stfu about them being statues and not action figures.
The way to fix /jp/ is one of two things
1. Delete /jp/
or
2. Delete /vg/
These boards are redundant with each other.
This thread is a good example as to why shoveling all meta into /qa/ is retarded.
>>574268
It's not retarded. It keeps the boards clean and we can call mods faggots without being banned by butthurt mods.
>>574265
>Delete /vg/
I see, you're one of those nutters who thinks deleting a board gets rid of its users.
>>574263
After reflecting on this idea for a whole half hour, it doesn't seem nearly as great as it did when I first thought of it.
>>574279
It's not it's users that are the problem and it's the exact opposite. All the people who played mmorpgs, who played im@s, who played doujin porn games, who played corporate porn games, who played VNs that weren't in Japanese only went to /vg/, along with some other topics. Deleting /vg/ would bring the topics back.
>>574272
This thread may interest some of you here.
>>574286
>Deleting /vg/ would bring the topics back
/vg/ generals are extremely fast and you're not accounting for the other generals (league of legends, overwatch, total war, etc) that would be misplaced if it were to be deleted
>>574268
What do you mean? Meta discussion is pretty much /qa/'s unofficial purpose.
>>572509
>old/obscure anime and manga
This is already on /a/, and it belongs on /a/.
>Japanese culture, Japanese Idols, Monstergirls, Visual Novels
These are already posted on /jp/.
>Anime/Manga/Figure collecting
This is anime and manga related. It is already posted on /a/ and belongs there.
Kill yourself.
>>574292
They can go back to /v/. /v/ is just full of shit anyway. Maybe if dead generals get pushed off faster, they'd start to give up on them.
Games like that don't even need generals over teamspeak or skype or something.
>>574298
>belongs there
http://www.4chan.org/rules#jp
I'm so sorry for your loss.
>>574351
The rules also don't state that figures should only be on /jp/ and not on /a/. Figures which are of anime/manga characters.
>>574293
The reason it shouldn't exist on /qa/ is because the threads tend to attract drive-by retards who don't know jack shit about the board but feel the need to make changes to it anyway.
>>574435
Oh, that's a fair point.
The mods don't really pay attention to this place as far as I'm aware, however. It's not like /jp/ doesn't get meta threads now and then, but much like this thread there's not going to be a mod or hiro post to show what they're thinking behind the scenes.
Get KanColle out of /jp/ please
>>574482
Why?
>>574730
It's an enclave of foreign users and the threads are 99% game blogging and stupid questions of the kind that really should be in /vg/ with the rest of the general threads. It helps very little that all discussion of secondary material went back to /a/ for some reason.
Though I suppose in this day and age people are incapable of discussion anything without a general thread for it.
>>574754
>the threads are 99% game blogging
isn't that the point of making a thread about a game?
What do you want them to do? Make "Which boat would you ride?" threads instead?
>>574794
I would personally prefer threads about the characters rather than having the game as a primary focus.
That said, game blogging is different from game discussion. Game discussion may involve discussing, say, unreleased content, or technical details of the game. Game blogging is primarily about what happened to you today.
>>574796
Oh man I can see it now
"which akazuki's exhaust port would u sniff"
>>574796
>Game discussion may involve discussing, say, unreleased content, or technical details of the game.
That's like all of 5 posts of content for any thread. Discussing details of the game typically involves talking about personal experiences too. Do you have a problem with people talking about their Touhou scores?
>I would personally prefer threads about the characters rather than having the game as a primary focus.
You would prefer "Post fat bote butts" and "What does Hoppo-chan's toes taste like" thread?
>>574801
>Do you have a problem with people talking about their Touhou scores?
If there was exactly one Touhou thread in /jp/, and it was completely dominated by people talking about their own mediocre scores, I think that would be highly unfortunate.
An individual's run of a certain Touhou stage is also likely to be more unique than an individual's run of a certain Kancolle map, but that's neither here nor there.
>You would prefer "Post fat bote butts" and "What does Hoppo-chan's toes taste like" thread?
The fact that most of /jp/'s threads are awful template threads doesn't mean everything has to be an awful template thread. At least Touhou has the excuse that everything interesting about Aya was discussed to death in the StB days.
>>574804
>>574806
>If there was exactly one Touhou thread in /jp/
There is ever only one gameplay thread.
The first post said "Get KanColle out of /jp/", as if the entirety should leave, and not just hate of a general. If you're okay with Kancolle in general, then why can't it have a game thread and character threads?
>An individual's run of a certain Touhou stage is also likely to be more unique than an individual's run of a certain Kancolle map
No, I actually want you to explain this. I don't play Kancolle, but you have more character and setup choices than you do in Touhou where you take one of 2 - 4 characters through the mostly same stages with the mostly same battles.
>>574811
>If you're okay with Kancolle in general, then why can't it have a game thread and character threads?
I'm not >>574482, I just stole his thunder. I just really dislike Kancolle general and don't mind the franchise itself so much (popular complaints from other people seem to be that it's dumb corporate bullshit and and has a lot of awful fans).
>I don't play Kancolle, but you have more character and setup choices than you do in Touhou where you take one of 2 - 4 characters through the mostly same stages with the mostly same battles.
In Kancolle, once you've chosen your setup, you're done. There's basically no route planning, decision-making, or execution. Most people know what the optimal loadouts and best ships are, and most of the ships that aren't elite are all statistically identical. The end result is that most runs end up looking pretty much the same, unless you're doing something spectacularly wrong.
It's a bit more acceptable during events when people don't actually know what the optimal everythings are, but those only come along once every few months.
>>>/jp/15465147
See, it's nice to have something like this for once, yet there are such negative comments telling people posting to go back to /a/. Why people want figures removed from /jp/ is absurd. If only we had a separate board for Touhou non of this would be happening.
>>574831
Because you're not very subtle in your shilling. Fuck off.
>>574831
They don't want figures off /jp/, they just don't want /a/ posters or anymore generals, most likely.
>>574833
Most of /jp/ is already a general, besides the obvious Touhou shitposting.
It doesn't help that the OP stated it as a general.
Why hasn't Hiroyuki come to talk in this thread? There are valid points made here.
>>574880
He's dead anon.
>>574880
He doesn't know what "2hu" is
>>574895
>Believing the "he cannot English" meme.
He can probably read better than you, anon.
>>574901
yap
I feel that the worse your life is, the better your /jp/ experience. I enjoy /jp/ a lot more when I'm in a slump.
>>574880
>Why hasn't Hiroyuki come to talk in this thread?
As like a fair few threads made over the past handful of months on /qa/:
>There are valid points made here.
Far easier to rock up to a rather misc thread, make a dumb random comment and distract a whole bunch of retards into thinking that he "cares" about the qualms of the userbase. It is a lot harder to randomly show up in a thread with a lot of well thought out points in relation to issues and make pointless distracting comments without coming across like a complete cock in the process. Maybe he is taking the experience of m00t with user interaction and trying to avoid this coming across like an uncaring fuckwit in larger measures.
>>574988
That's because you treat it as a place to whine about your life.
Why will mods just delete /a/ threads on /jp/ but will move "/jp/" threads from /a/?
>>575938
They're trying to move people, but /jp/ doesn't have any people to move.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/15474173
This isn't me, but I've noticed this before. Why is the /jp/ janitor so butthurt about people saying "for you" nowadays?
>>576178
The /jp/ janitor is butthurt about anything and everything. He wants to make /jp/ like reddit.
>>576196
What is reddit like?
>>576178
>Low effort baneposting
I hope that was a ban and not just a delete.
>>576208
There's high effort bane posting?
>>576212
I'd think tricking national news channels to quote lines from it on TV is pretty high effort.
>>575059
What? That anon is describing escapism and that's the opposite of the blogposting menace.
>>576206
No idea, because I still can't navigate reddit to save my life.
I've only seen other anons post about reddit being a super serious no-fun-allowed place.
>>576178
I report that garbage when I see it, too, as do other anons. Do you want the /tv/ audience, anon? I'll say it again:
Do
>>576217
you
>>576161
want
>>576170
the
>>576192
/tv/
>>575370
audience?
>>575854
>>576196
Thread-derailing McCarthyism is another thing that I do not want /jp/ to experience. Please don't bog the thread down with that dreck- I expect better from you.
>>576265
Sup, /jp/ janny.
>>576265
/tv/ is a shit board full of pedos. It should be deleted along with /r9k/ and frogposting made a permabannable offense.
>>576265
For [spoiler]free[/spoiler]
>>573372
I just accuse them of being new to 4chan and not understanding what greentexting is.
I know ZUN would be for this, anyone going to ask him at AX2016?
>>572496
No. Shut the fuck up and get out of /jp/.
>>576401
Greentexting is fairly new in the grand scheme of anonymous forums.
>>577526
No its' not
>>572523
Those boards exist because of containment
>>577711
How old do you think the internet is?
Arrows were used for quoting on BBS, Usenet, and E-mail starting in the late 70's to very early 80's.
>>577776
Thus they aren't "fairly new"
>>577784
"Greentexting" has its own meaning, however. It doesn't just mean text that is green- it's generally blog shit or passive-aggressive shitposting.
>>577789
So modern 4chan invented misquoting, blogging, and passive-aggression. What a world-changing site.
>>577791
Yes, exactly. I'm glad we could reach an agreement.
Do the people on /jp/ still sage as much as they used to even though sage is no longer visible? It must have really hurt the board
>>577801
I can't tell. Mods make anything they don't like, but can't come up with a good reason to delete autosage. All the generals just bump themselves up over and over and so do all the shit fetish threads.
I miss it being visible and outsiders taking it as an insult. I'd like to see the monstergirl thread guys reacting to half the posts in their threads being sages whenever they make a new one even when /jp/ poster are not insulting them.
>>577801
Sage is still extremely common and I still use it often myself. It's not unusual to be called out for bumping a thread with a non-contributing post.
>>577806
I doubt there are many sages in the monster girl thread. Most jpsies probably just filter it.
I often sage though. It would be interesting to see the number of posts/traffic for generals vs the rest of /jp/
>>577809
Those awful generals hit autosage in a manner of hours and can remain for a couple weeks due to the immense speed difference between them and /jp/. That damn monster girl general regularly breaches 2,000 posts despite the bump limt of 310. Does any other board experience this discrepancy or is this just /jp/'s legacy as /a/'s trash bin?
However, you are right- I reluctantly enacted filters on jaypee because the generals are out of control.
These generals will eat /jp/ alive.
One day you'll click on the board and realise that you can't find any legit thread above page 4.
>>577816
The AKB thread is just as fast.
>>577870
The also make a new thread when they hit image limit.
>>577819
So we can agree that we need to move all the generals out of /jp/, right?
>>578666
This isn't exactly a new consensus, however.
What are we supposed to do about it?
>>578702
Short of hacking into 4chan and taking it hostage, I don't think anything we do will work. Actually I'm not sure even that would work.
Looks like we are doomed to suffer for all eternity.
>>578740
>Looks like we are doomed to suffer for all eternity.
Taking it easy in this life and the next.
>>578666
I'm okay with them as long as they're 2d generals. Someone needs to figure out how to get all the 3d shit off the board.
>>579291
If anything needs it own board, its /idol/
Would also get the kpop shit out of /vg/ and /mu/
>>579296
Fuck that, just make some sort of worksafe /s/. It's not just the idol threads, is the people who want to come to a SFW board and post about JAV and gravure and kitty lingerie and other stuff that just amounts to random pictures of women tat they jack off to. I don't understand it at all, but idols could go on worksafe /s/ too.
Making an idol or celeb board in itself would be dangerous. Those /tv/ types would congregate there if they were allowed, and the idol thread members are probably creepy stalkers too anyway. If it were a secondary topic, I feel it wouldn't encourage them too much.
Or even just a General/Random to chuck any non-video game general off of whatever board no one wants it on. That way they won't have to worry about their generals spanning several types of media.
>>579291
Most of the 2D stuff belongs, but I still hate them as generals. Stuff like Monster Girls, though? No way.
>>579784
Why not?
>>579788
Monster Girls was just another thing dumped onto us because /a/ had another fit and mods listen to /a/ instead of the other way around like other boards. The speed and IP number in the threads, not to mention the culture, makes it clear that it's an /a/ outpost on /jp/ and I resent that the mods treat /jp/ as a trash bin.
>>579874
Except the monster girl threads are the most popular ones on /jp/, second only to 2hu
>>579885
That's because they moved a shitton of people.
If for some reason you moved the Shingeki no Kyojin threads to /jp/ they'd be extremely fast and popular but they would still be really shitty and they still wouldn't belong.
>>579894
Except the monster girl threads has a number of good drawfags and writers
>>579885
That's the point, though, isn't it? It's pretty strange for a slow board to have a general that regularly reaches 2k posts.
For the record, I don't have anything against the people in the general- I've just grown resentful over the continued growth of generals on /jp/.
>>579939
The current one was created one hour and 21 minutes ago, and has 1442 posts. That's about one post every 2 minutes. Holy shit. I made myself look through it and it's just not like the rest of /jp/ at all.
It really does seem like it should belong in one of the porn boards.
>>579901
>shit only /a/ cares abuot
Please do your job and report >>>/jp/15480634 before they try to become a general. Only you can prevent more 3dshit.
>>579939
>For the record, I don't have anything against the people in the general
Oh, but I do. They're incredibly fucking autistic, and I'm not even using it as a buzzword.
>>580049
Well they're fans of the ultimate pathetic fantasy: A world of virgin girls who want to kidnap you and just you and love and serve and have sex with only you forever and also they aren't icky human girls yet TOTALLY NOT furries. It's a subculture basically built around erotic RPG monster manuals. The worst parts of /tg/ and /d/ combined, with a layer of otaku fantasy frosting. Anything that breaks their imaginary world triggers them.
Someone should make a thread about mle monsters or monster girl yuri just to taunt them.
>>580072
So it's a self insert fantasy where you can be happy and find a waifu and it also has fetishes. Isn't that almost everything catered towards otaku?
>>580096
Nah, most stuff is yuribait or yaoibait or harems. Monstergirl fans are threatened by all that. Has to be 1 on 1 heterosexual relationships with no one else involved.
Ignoring the comedy shorts, mecha, and go-inside-the-mmo/fantasy world where the protag is the strongest ever type anime. Also the dark and edgy chuuni type anime.
>>580049
Calling out autism in a /jp/ thread sounds pretty bizarre to me, although the monster girl isn't part of /jp/ I thought I needed to say that.
/jp/ needs autism- it's both a resource for creating and maintaining threads and our barrier against intrusions.
>>580111
Nothing wrong about wanting a girl that'll love you and only you.
>>580122
I think you mean OCD, nothing wrong with that.
Monster girl threads are raw autism.
>>580072
Everyone is entitled to their fantasies, anon. You can say their general doesn't belong on /jp/, and I'd agree with you, but I don't agree with judging anyone's fantasies. I'm sure you'd say mine are pathetic as well, and I'm not offended, but it's not something that concerns you. Remember to take it easy and let bygones be bygones.
>>580124
There's lots wrong with that. It's borderline yandere for start.
>>580163
I'm explaining why they're autistic, not judging them.
>>580225
It's called monogamy.
>>580242
No monogamy is when you're with someone and they're only with you. They still have friends and stuff. Monstergirl stuff is about a girl kidnapping a guy, going back to a cave, digging a hole, and making a sex-pit they never leave from or talk to anyone else ever again while they feed off your semen.
Also there's nothing wrong with polygamy(if it's male and multiple females)
Hell, I won't even hate on girl-led multiple male harems.
>>580246
That's what I meant by loving only you. No bullshit harem nonsense or NTR or anything else you see in a generic harem comedy. Just you and her in as normal as a relationship you can get with them.
>>580252
>as normal as a relationship you can get with them.
They kidnap men and make them their sex-slaves.
>>580255
Perhaps the same could be said of all women.
>>580096
All it takes to appeal to otaku is a cute girl who's loyal and puts out. The bar for these things is not very high.
>>580163
Shit, I'll judge them. There's not even a love story there the way that the vast majority of more standard "otaku culture" fare is set up. You're falling in love with the concept of being kidnapped and raped. The girl, and whatever monstrous features she has, is just an afterthought.
>>580258
Okay, they fantasise about a slimegirl kidnapping and raping them. What's your point?
>>572603
We had kankolle and monster daughters before the /a/ controversy. Even if the topics are different, i think its mostly the same group of people, that's why it doesn't need to split. /jp/ is always an overlooked board, but its comfier that way.
>>580273
>i think its mostly the same group of people
It isn't, really.
>>580269
The vast majority of otaku culture crap is obsessed with characters. The monster girl thread isn't about characters, though. It's about template fucktoys and fantasy sexual scenarios. The entire idea is reductionist, because a slime girl, and every other monster girl, is just a set of fetishes. There's nobody upstairs.
Sure, the scenario of getting taken home by a slimegirl and fucked senseless is something we probably find enjoyable to some degree or another, but the people in the MGG thread aren't just enjoying this fantasy, they're posting about it and variations on it every day for a whole year. That in and of itself is just autistic. All of /jp/ is autistic, so that's fine in and of itself. Where it ets really surreal is when people get flamed into oblivion for bringing up any scenario other than monster-girl-fucks-Anonymous-for-life. Shit, who's purity are you even defending? When other otaku throw bitchfits over that kind of thing, at least they're nominally defending the virtue of a character or at least some sort of ideal.
>>580282
So you're saying you got upset when they threw you out for saying something stupid?
>>580285
I haven't posted in those threads since a moderator banned me for pointing out that a bunch of people ERPing with alp shit in the thread needed to get the fuck out of /jp/. This was in 2013.
It's a self-absorbed fetish general with no standards that should have never been moved to /jp/.
>>580289
>2013
Sorry, 2014. At any rate it was shortly after the great exodus.
>>580282
I think I understand where you're coming from a lot more now. It probably does belong more on a red board, and I'm sure the anons there would appreciate it as well.
It's nice to think of "What ifs", isn't it?
>>580289
That is a pretty shitty ban with how bad Alp posting is.
>>579788
>Why not?
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S15468769#p15469257
>>580298
It's them doing that? Huh.
I just assumed it was someone that liked the topic or character and didn't want the thread to die yet. It's improper behavior for a /jp/sie, but I didn't think it was malicious.
This is depressing.
>>580292
It was at the time when /jp/ was in full riot mode against having to take in MGG (spoilers: they lost that fight) so I imagine that the moderation situation there was somewhat exceptional. To put it charitably, anyways. It was still retarded though.
>>580291
I was pretty unhappy with it back in the day. These days it's just yet another ignorable general. I like to think that if it happened today it'd be stuck in the /trash/, though by the look of it /jp/ will have it for a long time to come.
/jp/ just needs more activity to push those threads off faster. Not spam activity, but enough activity that there's not enough room for those threads and every minor general.
I like how there's a lot of threads lately like various VN related things rather than being constrained to generals. There are some dumb /v/ tier threads too but what are you gonna do? People should start making non spammy kancolle and granblue character threads alongside the touhou and idolmaster ones. Also find some /jp/ related games/mods to talk about besides shitty DoTA.
This is unrelated to anything but check this shit. >>>/jp/15487950
>>580330
>People should start making non spammy kancolle and granblue character threads alongside the touhou and idolmaster ones.
This is literally the opposite of what people should be doing, It would just be a wave of new thread spam instead of the same old threads being bumped for 3 months.
>>580330
/jp/ doesn't like KanColle and doesn't care about Granblue. They won't make threads of either.
>>580350
I don't know if "/jp/" likes kancolle or not. It's always seemed to be a small group starting fake touhou vs kancolle threads. There is literally nothing wrong with the game itself being on /jp/.
>>580341
>It would just be a wave of new thread spam instead of the same old threads being bumped for 3 months.
You want the same old threads to be bumped once a week when it hits the bottom of page 10 for months at a time?
>>580358
They're only tolerating it for now because it's keeping to one general. They won't accept multiple character threads being made.
>>580358
>You want the same old threads to be bumped once a week when it hits the bottom of page 10 for months at a time?
What's the difference? Its just going to be the same soulless imagedumps, except it wont be forcing other better threads that are also slow off.
>>580368
Better threads like what? Other shit generals?
>>580395
Well I found the monster girl thread poster. Go back to your enclave and never come out.
>>580367
They make character threads once in a while and it doesn't go that poorly, really. There might be a couple agitated anons but as a whole it goes fine.
>>580282
I don't see why montergirls can't be moved to /d/ since it's obviously fetish material and all posts are sexual. That shouldn't be on /jp/.
I guess you could also argue that a lot of the Touhou posts are also extremely sexual but some of it is just shitposting so maybe stricter rules need to be applied.
>>580794
>and all posts are sexual.
no
>>580794
Mods have been deleting dumb touhou posts lately at least.
The thing with the monster girl threads is, like it or not, they do not leach into other threads, they actually produce OC, and the mods seem to have no problem with it.
Face it, /mgg/ isn't going anywhere
>>580794
I don't know why, but 2hu sexposting cracks me up.
Seeing
>Youmu's white pubic hair!
>I want to burry my face in it
Gives me a laugh.
>>581023
>we do what we want fuck u
-monstergirl posters
>>581023
What's with channers thinking OC is oh so great lmao
>>580282
>Where it ets really surreal is when people get flamed into oblivion for bringing up any scenario other than monster-girl-fucks-Anonymous-for-life. Shit, who's purity are you even defending? When other otaku throw bitchfits over that kind of thing, at least they're nominally defending the virtue of a character or at least some sort of ideal.
So you tried to post yuri or futa, got told to take your shit tastes elsewhere and now you want the threads out?
>>581180
What does
>any scenario other than monster-girl-fucks-Anonymous-for-life. Shit, who's purity are you even defending?
even have to do with futa or yuri? Why are you just bringing it up out of the blue?
