Newfag mod on /a/ tries to move LN discussion to /jp/. There's literally no reason in splitting Overlord discussion to two different boards by leaving manga/anime on /a/ and LN on /jp/.
If you don't like it then make your own imageboard.
they sure do let their power get to their head.
they should try and learn their place though.
Hirrroooooooooooooooo!
>>549586
>says the teenager claiming about the moderation of a privately-owned website
Delete /a/
Create /jpa/
>mods enforce rules on /a/
>some people from /a/ complain
Another day on 4chan.
>>549588
I'm actually a little girl thank you very much.
>delete /w/
>create /w/ - Weeaboo shit
>rename /jp/ - Japanese Music
problem solved
>>549590
>Overlord manga discussion is allowed on /a/
>Overlord anime discussion is allowed on /a/
>Overlord LN discussion isn't allowed on /a/
How is this okay? It's literally the same, the only difference is the form.
>>549584
Go and **** yourself
>>549602
Actually, I might be okay with this change. LNfags would finally shut the fuck about the "secondaries" bullshit.
>>549606
just enforce the rule about starting flamewars instead of splitting communities.
>>549606
Alternatively you could just read the fucking book.
>>549610
I'm sorry, was it /a/ or /lit/?
>>549612
No, this is Reddit. Compartmentalize all the things!
>>549613
You're not helping your point
>>549614
If what he meant by this is explained in the book, why the hell wouldn't you read the book? Too busy with homework?
>>549583
Someone post the screen cap of the mod saying LN belongs on /a/ and would never get removed
>>549616
never mind I found it
>>549602
/a/ - Anime & Manga
A lot of anime and manga are adaptations of light novels, visual novels, regular novels, video games, based on real life historical events etc. so it would be insane if they didn't allow discussing the source material in threads about the anime/manga adaptation. It would stifle and retard discussion if you only allowed discussing the adaptation and banned everything else. No one wants that, except maybe people who get butthurt over being spoiled on 4chan.
But there's a difference between allowing discussion of source material in threads about the anime/manga adaptation and making daily/weekly threads about the source material and discussing source material only, never even bringing up the anime/manga adaptation at all.
>>549619
>at the current time
sorry about your luck
>>549622
Did they stop basing shows off LNs now??
>>549623
No but mods obviously updated their stance on the matter.
Nipplemod all over again?
I haven't been to /tv/ for game of thrones threads in years, but did they get moved to /lit/ between airing seasons?
What constitutes LN discussion? If a new series of Index (for example) came out there wouldn't be that much discussion relating to the new episodes aside from the quality of the adaptation because the actual content came out years prior.
If an LN has one or more associated manga, is discussion of the LN allowed in threads relating to the manga?
>you can discuss a 3DPD live-action adaptation on the anime and manga board but not the script.
some mods concern themselves with the most retarded shit
http://desustorage.org/a/thread/142312215
>perfectly decent thread about the Pokemon anime
>83 posts, 37 posters
>this one specific shitter that usually shows up in them to shitpost about some crazy vendetta he has against /vp/ shows up and posts his usual crap
>thread gets deleted instead of the 10 or so shitposts he made
Is this some new janitor at work?
>>549626
sure looks like it. We better get Hiro to get his ass on /a/ right now
This is seriously bullshit. This faggot ass newfag mod is just making up rules as he goes along. This has to stop and soon.
>>549583
Please Hiro, we need you. Stop this autistic mod from deleting Overlord threads just because he doesn't like skeletons.
Rule 1 for /jp/ needs to be modified. I know it says Light Novels need to stay on /jp/, but considering most anime are based of LN's, this needs to be changed
>>549727
https://twitter.com/hiroyuki_ni
Tweet at him. That faggot mod is also moving High school DXD threads to
>>549683
Probably the same mod. Pokemon has always been allowed on /a/.
Meanwhile streaming trash and blogging normalfags all over the place.
>>549731
Yes, this and the increase of ironic shitposting, which is, according to our lord and founder just shitposting, are problems we have to solve as soon as possible.
Why are mods global anyway? They don't know jack shit about other boards.
Will it cause bias in judgement? No, it will promote accurate decisions on any thing happening on the board because it's a mod's homeboard.
Assign at least two and have them check on each other's actions to avoid shit like this.
>>549583
Has that mod ever been to /jp/? There hasn't been a LN thread there in 5 years. What a retard.
>no LN discussion on /a/ after years of precedent which allowed it
>at any given time a bakers dozen LN adaptions of anime/manga, with moonrune spoilers fueling discussion
>now suddenly banned en-masse thanks to new mod wanting to stroke e-peen
BOY OH BOY NO WAY THIS WILL NOT END BADLY
I'm not too opposed to it
I'm getting kind of sick of going to /a/ to discuss an anime and having spoilers from the LNfags ruin it for me
particularly with shit like BnHA and Re:Zero this season
anime, manga, and LN discussion gets forced into the same thread and 9 times out of 10 the people who read the LN don't even bother to spoiler important plot points
along with every time they're asked to spoiler it they always blame the other person
>"read the primary, secondaryfag"
>"get gud"
when they could just use the spoiler tags for their actual purpose instead of memes and erp
sure /jp/ is just as autistic that they've convinced themselves that they are the 2hu board, but if people insist on splitting the communities by "primary" vs "secondary" and start flamewars and spoil to start shit, then good riddance, move them off
>>549800
BnHA is a manga. You would still get spoiled if LN threads were on /jp/. I agree that people should use spoiler tags more, though. I usually just avoid threads for adaptations since I know it's just going to be discussion of the source material.
>>549800
That's never going to change regardless if it's moved or not.
>>549804
the problem with that is you can't discuss adapted material at all then
and what's even the point about going on /a/ at that point
BnHA was more about both being forced into the same thread
you have the manga that's 100 chapters ahead of the show and has all of these spoilers while the only anime discussion allowed is in there, with all of it because /a/ insists on 1 thread per series or they flip their shit
>>549800
/jp/ is deleting all the LN threads started, out of all the board /jp/ is the most anal about sudden change and outsider interference.
So the mod is not ensuring nospoilers for babbys, he is just throwing discussion under the bus with no alternative.
Not to mention it is retarded to split discussion of a franchise between it's anime/manga and the LN it's adapted from.
>>549811
>nospoilers for babbys
how about you try that again?
or I mean, you could follow the rules that say to stick spoilers the anime hasn't reached yet in spoilers
that's kind of the point of having those tags, not so you can make jokes or do gayboy erp with each other
>>549583
He did the same to DxD, Horizon, etc.
He's basically forcing everything LN related to /jp/.
And now look at this:
>>>/jp/15332711
>>>/jp/15332810
They sure are delighted about it.
>>549800
No matter what and where you go, you won't stop anyone from spoiling it.
Temporal bans or complete bans for spoiling should simply be enforced more strongly and people will stop automatically.
Nobody on /jp/ discusses anime to begin with (or LNs), and if you force something like Overlord/DxD to /jp/ after the anime stopped airing and people want to discuss future material, you are officially and effectively killing all discussion on mentioned series.
>>549811
I don't know who's idea it was to start the only Overlord thread in /jp/ with something that can't be found in the catalog, but there is one up: >>>/jp/1533271
That said, this used to be impossible because the rules for /jp/ explicitly banned LNs with animated adpatations from 2012 until very recently.
>>549808
Yeah, and that sucks. But this isn't the solution. Maybe some kind of /aa/ - Airing Anime might help solve that, but a new board would be pretty extreme.
The current system works fine, Mod is fucking up a long working system and not providing a alternative.
>>549817
Even more boards are a bad idea.
The current system was working just fine, LNs with a manga/anime adaption are allowed on /a/ and that's it.
I feel sorry for the people who actually want to discuss the huge amount of translated WN/LN material without any form of adaption, but there's currently no way for it.
They get deleted on /a/ and are dead on /jp/.
This whole LN business, since it's been getting more and more focus (just see the amount of damn adaptions per season and the translations going on) should get a whole new overhaul, rewriting the rules; but certainly no new board.
>>549824
then what about the people who want to discuss the actual adaptation without "x dies next episode" or other bullshit like that in every single thread?
you're not the only group that wants to enjoy or discuss the material anon, and as it stands LNfags don't obey any of the rules about spoilers and frankly either don't give a fuck or do it on purpose to start an argument and shitpost
if you fags are going to create divisions already, I see no reason why you shouldn't be pushed to your own board or own section
you can be there and be free of the "secondaries" you all hate so much
>>549826
As I see it, that's also the fault of the mods. Or did you ever see anyone getting banned for posting spoilers outside a spoiler tag even though it's written in the rules?
I certainly did not, and I've been frequenting this site for a very long time.
That's why I said that it needs a whole new overhaul and in my other post that mods need to be more extreme when it comes to spoilers.
Or do you think an anime/manga only board, without any mention whatsoever of source content, would stop anyone from spoiling it That's not happening, some kid would simply change board to spoil you guys because he thinks it's funny.
Could it be because overlord is a shitty unnecessary general and someone wanted to give a warning shot?
>>549826
You'll be spoiled regardless. Moving LNs elsewhere is just going to make it end like /qst/. Quests have their own board now, but all the big ones stayed on /tg/ like literally everyone expected, changing fuck all and only making the people who dislike them even more mad.
>>549826
"If you don't want to be spoiled, don't go to the threads."
Is what I'd like to say, but I agree. If we enforced proper usage of spoiler tags since the beginning of time, it wouldn't come to this.
But since this is 4chan, no one gives a shit to the other guy. Enforcing proper usage of spoiler tags would be really difficult to achieve.
>>549838
No, stop baiting. This isn't an isolated case. Read the thread.
>>549838
That'd be cherry picking in that case, as there are several 24/7 generals on /a/ that are not explicitly /a/ related.
The rules for /jp/ state
>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.
Notice the emphasis on translated visual novels, but not light novels.
Translated light novels with anime adaptations do not explicitly belong on /jp/, and it is intellectually dishonest to imply they do.
>>549841
>Translated light novels with anime adaptations do not explicitly belong on /jp/.
You literally quoted a rule explicitly saying that /jp/ is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese light novels.
>>549838
Generals typically happen for every franchise whenever a new "thing" come out, whether it be a new chapter, episode or release.
All that discussion has to go somewhere and rather then multiple threads with different topics it is cleaner to have all discussion in the one thread.
Generals turn to shit when they exist without a purpose, one month or more without new material stifles conversation and creativity and should be feeling the heat by mods. However Overlord just had a new book released after months of waiting so naturally much discussion was to be had.
Mods losing control, double standards up the ass and not providing a decent alternative made them responsible for the sudden chaos on the board. Just let it peter out naturally, there wasn't a problem before.
>>549843
And you literally ignored the latter half of the post. Why would they very clearly state where translated VN's can be discussed, but not translated LN's?
>>549843
Good fucking luck selling this to /jp/ then.
Anything that isn't Touhou is considered off-topic, not even an exaggeration.
>>549844
there's nothing wrong with letting multiple threads exist for an anime or manga when new material comes out, there will be 4-5 threads and then the next day something else comes along
and it avoids the shit of when a general stays for way too long and turns to shit
>>549845
Because translated VNs are explicitly permitted on /vg/, even though they are not "video games."
There is no reading of the rule that suggests that translated LNs are not permitted on /jp/, not any more than translated Vocaloid material and translated Touhou doujinshi is not permitted on /jp/.
Welcome to the /jp/ dumping ground and enjoy your stay.
>>549767
There's one right now ackshully
>>>/jp/15124089
It's a fairly niche thing for /jp/, though.
>>549850
There is also no reading of any rules that translated LN's with anime adaptations can't be discussed on /a/.
You still haven't told me why they haven't clarified that translated LN's are specifically only allowed on /jp/, and have only restated the rule.
>>549849
>there's nothing wrong with letting multiple threads exist for an anime or manga when new material comes out
Holy shit, you have no idea what you are asking for. The board acting as a massive spastic whenever something new comes out with ten threads to the one show because you don't see a need to contain the autism.
>>549853
>There is also no reading of any rules that translated LN's with anime adaptations can't be discussed on /a/.
There's no reading of any rules that say that Iron Man and RWBY can't be discussed on /a/, but they still can't.
>You still haven't told me why they haven't clarified that translated LN's are specifically only allowed on /jp/, and have only restated the rule.
If the board says it is the board for X then it is probably the board for X whether that X is translated or untranslated. It doesn't say that translated manga is allowed on /a/, but it obviously is.
>>549850
If we changed some things, it'd be great, right?
>Because translated LNs are explicitly permitted on /a/, even though they are not "anime & manga."
There is only difference in medium, the content are shared, both are not interactive like video games, not real life, tells a story, and may or may not have pretty art like anime and manga.
>>549849
You try making a thread on /a/ for anything that already has a thread up. It'll die before reaching 10 replies.
>>549855
>There's no reading of any rules that say that Iron Man and RWBY can't be discussed on /a/, but they still can't.
False equivalences, and therefore non-arguments.
>It doesn't say that translated manga is allowed on /a/, but it obviously is.
>1. All images and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga.
It doesn't have the word "Japanese" in front of it, meaning that the language the manga is in is irrelevant, as it is implying ALL anime and manga is permitted.
/jp/'s rule explicitly hold the term "Japanese" before LN. Do you understand the differences or do we need to do this again?
>new DxD thread on /a/ only discussing the anime
>still gets pruned
anime isn't allowed on /a/
>>549860
>False equivalences, and therefore non-arguments.
There is no equivalency to be made. There is exactly one rule that permits the discussion of light novels in the rules right now. That board is /jp/.
>/jp/'s rule explicitly hold the term "Japanese" before LN. Do you understand the differences or do we need to do this again?
Does manga cease to be Japanese after it has been scanlated? If a rule was made expelling manhwa from /a/ that stated, "Only Japanese manga may be discussed," would you say that they intended for translated manga to be expelled from /a/? No, because that reading would be contrived and retarded.
>>549846
I'm not letting this one slide.
multiple idol generals
mahjong general
kigu general
fumo general
doll general
Translated VN general
Untranslated VN general
monstergirl general (thanks by the way)
elona general
vocaloid general
onahole general
kancolle general
valkyrie crusade general
some DOTA mod I can't remember the name of general
general general
general general general GENERAL GENERAL GENERAL GENERAL GENERAL
>>549864
Manwha is actually forbidden on /a/.
Do you browse /a/ or just theorycrafting?
>>549867
I've seen Tower of God discussed without people getting banned the way they'd be banned for discussion a Western comic.
>>549869
Because mods don't know what exactly is allowed and not allowed in a board they don't visit frequently. Which is the source of the problem we're always having. Mods like Nipplemod and this mod don't know /a/ and just glances at it when reports are piling up. This is also why I find global mods to be ridiculous.
>>549870
How did this disconnect even happen?
Why do we have newfags in moderation position even though they don't know anything about this place?
[spoiler]Why did moot leave ;_;[/spoiler]
>>549864
>There is exactly one rule that permits the discussion of light novels in the rules right now. That board is /jp/.
It permits the discussion of Japanese light novels, and very specifically states this. Why would translated VN's be allowed but not also state that LN's have the same opportunity?
>Does manga cease to be Japanese after it has been scanlated?
Does an LN stop being related to anime and manga when it's adapted?
>If a
Irrelevant. We are dealing with actual existing rules right now.
>>549870
Whether the rule is "correct" is not is one thing, but as written, you are permitted to discuss translated light novels in /jp/. I don't think anyone would claim that translating material causes it to not be Japanese anymore.
>>549874
>Does an LN stop being related to anime and manga when it's adapted?
Are RWBY and Iron Man related to anime and manga because they've become adapted?
>Why would translated VN's be allowed but not also state that LN's have the same opportunity?
Because stupid fuckwits from /jp/ tried to force all translated VN discussion into /vg/ after claiming that /vg/ was the "VN board" (which it is, if not the only VN board) and the mods needed to shut these people up.
>>549866
You are asking for a flood of DxD, Overlord, Index and every single other big name LN adaption to shift discussion to /jp/ where it traditionally isn't and you see no problem.
Massive rift would immediately erupt between the /jp/ oldfags not used to this level of sliding from discussion usually seen on /a/ and the newfags now forced onto a board they have no relation to otherwise.
Discussion would be non-existent as each thread is different levels of REEEEEEE GET OUT, if you want an example of how it looks have a squiz here
>>>/jp/15332711
>>549877
>RWBY
It is adapting western trite so I'd argue that only the manga would be related to /a/. Any content discussing the original content should be deleted as it is inarguable not /a/ related.
>Iron Man
You've brought this up twice now but I'm admittedly out of the loop, are you referring to the comics and movies?
>Because stupid fuckwits from /jp/ tried to force all translated VN discussion into /vg/ after claiming that /vg/ was the "VN board" (which it is, if not the only VN board) and the mods needed to shut these people up.
So then why is /jp/ the LN board when LN discussion there is an extremely recent thing? And by extremely recent I mean like the last 6 months, where before around that point there wasn't any threads for years. Why the liberal application of authority just now?
>>549602
/a/ literally tells people to go to /v/ all the time if they want to discuss an anime adaptation they don't like.
>>549878
>Massive rift would immediately erupt between the /jp/ oldfags not used to this level of sliding from discussion usually seen on /a/ and the newfags now forced onto a board they have no relation to otherwise.
They were all killed in the great /mgg/ invasion. Now it's nothing but battered wives clinging to past glory and moderation apologists.
>>549880
>It is adapting western trite so I'd argue that only the manga would be related to /a/.
There is no written rule suggests that things get to go into /a/ simply because they are Japanese. I understand that in reality, the LN industry is closely connected to the anime and manga industry in ways that Rooster Teeth is not. That said, I am reading the rules as they are, not as they "should be."
>You've brought this up twice now but I'm admittedly out of the loop, are you referring to the comics and movies?
Wikipedia says that the Marvel anime adapted Iron Man, Wolverine, X-Men, and Blade. I haven't seen it.
>And by extremely recent I mean like the last 6 months, where before around that point there wasn't any threads for years.
They have popped up every now and then, just with minimal activity. As for why they're trying to make something happen now, your guess is probably as good as mine.
>>549875
This is a point another anon raised earlier, he suggested in an overhaul in the rules. When was the rules last updated? We got a new owner and even he has his own stance on things just like in the Nipplemod event. We're not idiots to blindly follow what Moot wrote years ago, if it's causing problems because times are changing, we need to amend it. And people are not even following rule #2 of /a/ so there's that too.
as shown in the picture here >>549619
Mods in the past knew the culture and unwritten rules of /a/ & /jp/ in which they acted upon. So why can't the new mods do it? Because they don't care as it is not their home board.
>>549880
Global Mods looking at the statute rather than the organic common law of the boards for what is acceptable then being surprised when the mod from /sp/ fucks up when applying their vision to /a/.
>>549878
What I meant is that you were painting an image as if we, the users of /jp/, have any input on what happens on it. I was hoping my hatred of generals was apparent in my post but I guess that's just the nature of text.
/jp/ probably has more spin-offs than any other board, certainly per capita, and anyone still posting here has grown passive and lethargic to ye olden /jp/.
Here we go.
DAL was next.
I even went there to warn him about the mod:
>>>/a/142332821
>>549881
That's not quite true, is it.
/v/ is /a/'s boogeyman, in the same way that Reddit/Tumblr/"The SJWs" are for a lot of other boards. If a series generally generates low-quality discussion, the "go back to x" spam is a quick way to get rid of it.
>>549891
>/v/ is /a/'s boogeyman, in the same way that Reddit/Tumblr/"The SJWs" are for a lot of other boards.
4chan hasn't been low key enough to have boogeymen for years.
Those "boogeymen" have a very visible and unironic presence, and ultimately led to moot resigning.
>>549875
Where were you when posting Yotsuba, our site mascot, got banned on /a/ by an ignorant mod?
Also regarding this new mod, I've seen some threads get deleted completely at random just the other day, like a Big Order thread, and I think a Kiznaiver and a Kabaneri thread? As far as I could tell they weren't breaking any rules but they just 404'd without any explanation.
Deleted/Moved threads so far on that I have noticed.
Date A Live, DxD, Horizon, Overlord.
DAL being the most recent one just a few minutes ago.
Does he want us to turn /jp/ into /a/ or what?
>>549902
/jp/ has always just been a more elitist /a/ :^)
>>549897
Oh God I had forgot that incident.
How the fuck do they select mods?
>>549896
>Moot resigned for any reason other than being scared shitless by the fappening
I love /v/'s conspiracy story time.
>>549897
I'm fairly sure that didn't happen the way that /a/ claims it happened.
>>549907
I personally like the food analogies.
>>549907
>implying it wasn't /pol/ and the cuckening that did it
One true power
Christ this mod is still going at it? Where the fuck is Hiro?
>>549909
It happened that way, just like /a/ got a massive prude for a mod who took the term blueboard to mean ban anything not in a headscarf.
>>549912
7:30am in Japan, maybe he's having a nice lie in.
>>549902
I got banned for making a Log Horizon thread. I swear if this faggot mod is still at it when I'm back from uni
>>549909
It clearly happened, as it was a public ban with red text for all to see, a thread with a clean Yotsuba picture as OP pic.
>>549920
A thread that was made for the purpose of subtly implying that the mod was a faggot who didn't know the rules, though.
>>549919
I got a 15 minutes warning from him as well today, and as I can see it in this thread, are are probably several more.
>>549905
I don't even want to imagine the shitstorm it would cause if suddenly all discussions of shows based on a light novel were shoved to /jp/. But this is apparently what the current mod wants.
>>549897
Do you mean this?
>>549926
Yes, that's exactly it.
No matter how you look at it, even if it was meant as a joke, it's plain blasphemy.
>>549927
He banned that thread because you were using Yotsuba as a shield to defend threads that are mostly about wanting to fuck lolis will passively-aggressively trolling the mods.
Now, MAYBE he deleted the thread because he was a huge fucking newfag, but that's not that what I'm seeing.
>This is your date thread on the front page
>LN threads are deleted
"anime was a mistake" - Hayao Miyazaki
>>549928
while*
>>549877
>Are RWBY and Iron Man related to anime and manga because they've become adapted?
RWBY is /trash/ related.
>>549932
you can't spell trash without a
>>549929
>generalshit moved out of /a/
I fail to see the problem. Dealing with the cancer at last.
>>549928
See
>>549914 and >>549922
Banning literally anything that looks like a child on /a/. We called that day the lolicaust.
Auto-public ban only happens with Yotsuba when you are sexualizing her. They could've just silently taken down that particular thread with Yotsuba if they didn't like it.
Yotsuba getting banned isn't the real problem there, it was the mod being ignorant and having a power trip. That's also our current situation now.
>>549934
>>generalshit moved out of /a/
Quick check tells me generals are still on /a/, friendo.
>>549933
/ごみ/
>>549936
Just a matter of time my friend. Baby steps.
>>549939
I seem to be remembering these words being said for years.
>>549935
>Banning literally anything that looks like a child on /a/.
Maybe. But that was not a "clean" Yotsuba thread and you know it. It was a weaponized Yotsuba thread, designed to shit on the mods.
>>549941
http://archived.moe/a/thread/59058217/
Read the last post.
>>549941
sometimes a retard's just a retard.
>>549941
What are you smoking? It's as clean as a cupcake, the only one with the dirty mind is the one who says so. Like (You).
And like I said, it served its purpose, it showed the mod was having a power trip and idiots trying to defend it.
>>549940
Hey I'll take what I can get. Even if we don't get them all, the removal of a few is steps forward in my book.
>>549952
If was a few steps towards actually removing generals, maybe. What this boils down to is a very liberal interpretation of the rules. Why is live action allowed to be discussed on /a/ if the source material isn't, for example?
Unfortunately, generals will never be banned from /a/. Most of the staff probably haven't even been on 4chan before 2013.
what's even the point of /qa/ anymore? does an hiro even post on this board after the introductory period?
>>549981
actually yes!
this board is the reason why /his/ and /qst/ are a thing, and why nipplemod never got his way.
>>549981
He posted a few days ago.
https://desustorage.org/qa/search/capcode/admin/
>>549981
/qa/ was created for moot's final Q and A. No one bothered removing it. As most people forgot about it, it turned into a really laid back meta board.
Then the dreaded announcement was made for hiro's Q and A and the board was flooded with shit.
These days it's /q/2.0 with significantly less admin and mod posting.
hiro is mostly AWOL and mods are in IRC.
Where do you cross the line with LNs? Is any LN talk banned, even in a thread that has a current anime adaptaion airing? What about after it finishes airing?
This just opens a can of worms that didn't need to be dealt with. There's no point in splitting the discussion of a franchise whose mediums are so intertwined. You're just splitting the community and pissing off the people who browse both boards.
The rules need to be either clarified or rewritten, because under current precedent LNs that have no adaptation belong in /jp/ and those that do are in a limbo state of technically belonging on /jp/ but being welcome and most active on /a/. Add to that the fact that mods have been iffy on their interpretation of the rules and have previously explicitly allowed LN with adaptation threads on /a/.
If it were me I'd just allow all LN threads on /a/. They're much closer to the spirit of /a/'s discussion and if they were as popular at the time of the rules being written as they are now they would have been included in them. Content wise, being a fictional medium, they're much closer to manga and anime than they are to /jp/'s core interests. Add to that the fact that they're commonly adapted into manga and anime, and the fact that many original anime end up having an accompanying LN series written during or after their airing.
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/15332711
I wonder how many deleted posts there is going to be.
>>550005
/jp/ janitors do it for free
Make a "Japanese Translated and Not-translated Novels, Light Novels and VNs regardless of anime/manga adaptations" board.
/jtntnlnvn/
>>550015
Just make a generals board and shove all of them there.
>>550015
>make another dead board!
If people migrated then these threads wouldn't be around.
>>549767
Confirmed to have "visited /jp/ once 5 years ago and never went back". Fuck off.
>>549841
>>549845
>Why would they very clearly state where translated VN's can be discussed, but not translated LN's?
>It doesn't specifically say this very specific one thing goes here so it doesn't belong here.
Fuck straight off, /a/'s rules don't say shit about Light Novels at all, so they clearly don't belong there.
Its a light novel, guess where it goes. There is no distinction between the two.
>>549846
Also confirmed for never going to /jp/.
>>549880
>So then why is /jp/ the LN board when LN discussion there is an extremely recent thing?
Also confirmed for never going to /jp/.
>>550005
Probably keep going as long as people don't talk about the LN and instead just shitpost.
Is that really so strange to /a/? To see shitposting deleted?
>>550022
>being this confrontational
Also confirmed for podracing
>>550022
>as long as people don't talk about the LNs.
They never will. LNs don't belong on /jp/. Confirmed for never going on /jp/.
>>550022
>LN's go on /jp/
LMAO
>>550025
Taking it easy is suspended in times of war. Everyone should know this.
>>550026
>>>/jp/15124089
>39 days old
>zero WAAAAAH MODS posts
Gee fucking golly, anon.
>>550029
Which is why LN's belong on /jp/ and have quality /jp/ posts to match.
No shitposts in here, boys.
>>550031
>39 days old
That only proves no one anywhere wants to talk LNs on /jp/.
>>550032
Hahaha oh boy you wanna pull the "quality posting" meme here?
>>>/a/142337895
>>>/a/142338269
>>>/a/142337665
>>>/a/142335468
>>>/a/142333889
>>550031
>>550032
In all seriousness, what's the point of such a thread? There's next to zero discussion and there a bit over 100 posts after bloody 39 days which clearly shows just how much /jp/ is interested in LNs.
Make a thread like that on a board with interest in them and they will reach this in a matter of hours.
>>550037
>>>/jp/15026236
>60 days old
>>>/jp/14940514
>73 days old
Nobody wants to talk about touhou or idolmaster either, according to your logic.
>>550032
Huh, that's weird. The Highschool DxD "Light Novel" thread has been on /jp/ for almost half a day and people have yet to discuss the LN.
What could possibly be going on?
>>550042
Nobody wants to go to /jp/ period. Even their oldfags all left alredy.
>>550042
You're comparing half a catalog of touhou and idolshit to 1 LN thread.
That's a lot of talking spread evenly, if you ask me.
/jp/ has and will always be /a/'s dumping ground for shit we don't want anymore. Deal with it fags.
>>550047
Because mods treated /jp/ like a dumping ground for shit that's in gray areas, surprise surprise.
>>550050
>Literally nothing wrong with a board
>Refuse to use board because of made up stigma
I bet you were terrified of cooties as a child too.
>>550050
>we
Speak for yourself, queer.
>>550055
>>Literally nothing wrong with a board
you can't post nipples on /jp/.
They should just tear down the wall
>>550050
>we
Fuck off.
>>550058
Yell loudly on /qa/ until hiro sees it I guess, thats how every change has worked in the past few months.
>>550059
Yes they should. The /jp/ split was unneeded in the first place, and it has even less of a need now. Or maybe a simpler 2D board vs 3D board.
>>550068
>Or maybe a simpler 2D board vs 3D board.
Exactly what I was thinking too.
Most of /jp/ is now dedicated to discussing idol groups and jav anyway, and that discussion is the only thing that doesn't belong in /a/.
Everything else is /jp/ is tangentially /a/ related and should be moved there.
>>549583
LN is as /a/ as manga is. We're not going to stop posting it.
>>549583
Overlord threads fucking deserve it in the first place. Being cancer generals and all. Don't try fucking pretending that shit isn't cancer, look at it
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/142312534/
Are you 12 year olds or something? The fact you people tried to imply the thread is a 'community' is the instant you all deserved the hammer. The mod is most likely using the vague rule to give you the beating you deserve.
>>550074
I don't think many people who like Overlord are smart enough to know /qa/ exists.
They had it coming for being off-topic shit. On an unrelated note, did Monster Monsume finally be told to get bent?
This is like when the mods decided the two or three /co/ based video game threads weren't allowed on /co/, but the dozens of /tv/ threads are allowed to stay up all the time. Why get rid of the a couple of LN threads that have an anime/manga adaptation, but leave all the buyfag, drawfag, cute, tv, etc threads up? These new mods just seem to make everything personal and can't moderation fairly across the board.
>>550074
Overlord threads have been shit for a long time. I stopped visiting them a long time ago despite really liking the series. But now that a new volume is actually being translated, a lot of non cancerous people want to talk about it again. Its an odd coincidence that this new rule didn't start getting enforced until the new translations started. I'm thinking a Yen Press employee somehow became a mod.
>>550074
If it were only Overlord, and if the punishment was really only just because the thread was there for no reason, sure.
Read this thread and you'll see that said mod deleted everything LN based that did not explicitly discuss its manga/anime content but shifted toward the LN content.
And the recent Overlord threads were discussion and sharing the translation of the newest volume, so it did not deserve the deletion in the first place.
>>550081
>of a series you don't like?
Good thing this isn't the case! I was reading the bloody thing since early on. Yes, I want the fanbase to fucking burn. I want you bunch of retarded 12 year old anime generalfags who ruined actually good threads with your cancer. This is also 4chan, the threads aren't a community and the fanbase is irrelevant.
>>550084
>Overlord threads have been shit for a long time.
No, they still are. Look the things. I've gone into them everytime out of curiosity and they were still bad. I didn't even bother with the initial translations of v10 threads because they didn't even hide who was fucking making them. Yes, I'm mad, I'm mad that I can't talk about something I like without having to deal with all the fucking stupid cancerous bullshit.
>>550084
That doesn't explain why the Konosuba thread is still up. It's discussing the LN translations released today and was also licensed by Yen Press. This is definitely a mod with a specific grudge against Overlord itself.
>>550093
More like against anything he doesn't like. Highschool DxD threads for example are being pruned/moved and they were hardly discussing the LN enough to warrant it. I believe DAL also got shit on.
>>550093
And because of his specific grudge against Overlord itself he went ahead and deleted the Horizon and Date A Live thread, moved the DxD thread to /jp/, and left the KonoSuba thread be?
Yeah, just his personal likes/dislikes I'd assume.
These are the actual rules for /a/ posted on the home page. LNs aren't mentioned anywhere, but notice #4. Live action threads are allowed as long as they're based on something /a/ related. Wouldn't that cover LN threads then? General LNs and ones that don't have an adaptation shouldn't be allowed, but ones that do should be fine under this rule, right?
>>550099
But /jp/ rules explicitly allow LN threads, which is why everything is getting moved there.
It's all up to how you interpret the rules.
>>550074
Then why have good threads like the Kawakami threads been deleted too? Mod probably doesn't even browse /a/ in first place.
>>550099
>wouldn't that cover LN threads
Since when are LNs live action? It specifically says Live Action, not "anything which has had an anime or manga adaptation". You're digging your own grave.
>>550092
I don't even read the series m8, I just find it interesting how hard you're trying to generalize a group of people just because you're mad about some shitposters.
>>550108
>some
It would be a non-issue if that were the case.
>>550103
except /jp/ is being even more autistic than /a/ and removing anything discuss the series if it isn't just, HMM BOY THAT LN I SURE LIKE DISCUSS THAT LN
>>550103
>which is why everything is getting moved there.
Mods don't require precedents to shove things there.
>>550107
The argument is that between live action shows and LNs, LNs are closer to being /a/ related content.
Since live action shows are allowed if they are rooted in anime, LNs should be allowed if they are rooted in anime also.
>>550099
There's no way to even avoid that.
Let's say they adapt a manga into an anime, now, if you like it or not, the anime is simply the advertisement for the manga and the discussion will sooner or later shift toward the actual source material, which is in this case the manga.
And now simply replace manga by LN in the above sentence.
Forcing a discussion of something with a manga/anime advertisement to /jp/ just because you're not explicitly talking about the manga/anime (and there's no way you can enforce it, the discussion will shift naturally) is plain stupid and kills it for good.
>>550107
Don't be pedantic. There is no LN related rule for /a/ so you have to find the one it fits under best. Rule 4 say deals with a type of thread that would normally belong on a different board, but its allowed if it contains /a/ related material. If there's an exception there, then that same exception should apply for Light novels, as well as things like buyfag threads that clearly belong on /toy/ not /a/ unless you apply rule 4 to them too.
>>550108
>about some shitposters.
There isn't "some", the entire thread is a bunch of shitposters. It's a fucking general.
>>550119
Then don't visit.
>>550120
>Just ignore it dude!
First they came
>>550119
That was the case before. There was definitely a strong case for it to be labeled an unneeded general before the vol 10 translations were dropped. But mods started deleting the threads when it was normal discussion about currently translated content instead of when it was a shitposting general, the opposite of what they should have done.
>>550122
That's not an actual counter-argument.
>>550124
Telling people to ignore shit they don't like isn't an argument to begin with.
Shitting up the board is shitting up the board, regardless if you are present for it or not.
The mods should at least move threads instead of deleting them. Don't act like this is some long standing rule that everyone is breaking. This is a new direction and you shouldn't be punishing people or removing things without properly telling people first and giving everyone time to get used to it.
>>550124
>Then don't visit
Nice argument.
>>550128
They are being moved, look at the DxD thread.
They just deleted overlord because there was like 10 of them up.
>>550120
No, I want to talk about overlord, I don't want to deal with literal cancer. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.
>>550130
>They are being moved, look at the DxD thread.
It got moved after 300 posts to what is tantamount to autosaging it.
There were several attempts to discuss the anime solely on /a/ and they were pruned.
>>550133
I didn't say they were doing a GOOD job, but they are moving them. Sometimes.
>>550132
>Why you're so special and must have the board groomed to your specific liking.
Dank argument dude
Shitting up the board is shitting up the board, regardless if you are present for it or not.
>>550130
Only that one was moved, everything else was deleted.
>>550132
The filters were for hiding specific things you didn't like. Such as a fucking series or video game. It wasn't added to hide actual problems and make hugboxes like you are suggesting.
>Why you're so special and must have the board groomed to your specific liking.
Why are you so special that you must force your cancer on a board that has never wanted it?
>>550136
>he can't even address the point
>>550132
>Why you're so special and must have the board groomed to your specific liking.
The irony.
>>550141
>he posts non arguments and expects arguments in response
This is some mental gymnastics I can get behind
>>550130
The DxD one is the only one that's been moved. The overlord one was made after several had already been deleted on /a/. There's no sign of the index, kawakami, etc threads. This is not good moderation. This is a mod acting like a selfish brat. Communicate with your community before changing the way things have been for years.
>>550136
"Shitting up a board" is just your opinion. This isn't about your opinion. This is a complaint about a recent change in moderation that doesn't make sense. You aren't even arguing for or against this, you're just sitting in the corner shouting "Pay attention to me instead" and adding absolutely nothing.
>>550146
This.
Moving accomplishes nothing because they all just make a new thread back on /a/ and get away with it, and leave a big steaming pile of shit on /jp/.
They probably wouldn't shitpost their own threads as hard if they weren't able to just go back and keep making more.
>>550149
someone is an elitist about /jp/ I see
>>550146
then I want people to actually fucking do shit about spoilers
I'm sick of either not being able to discuss anime on /a/ or have to give up any kind of suspense or plot driven anime because autists don't give 2 shits about spilling the beans to "muh secondary babbies"
>>550152
And why shouldn't he be? Things have been fine for years. The /a/ people want to stay on /a/ and the /jp/ people want to keep things the way they've always been there. There's absolutely no reason for this new moderation. No one likes it except for the mod doing it, and the one edgelord here who's on summer vacation.
>>550154
People have always spoiled shit, fucktard. The golden rule has always to not go into threads if you don't want spoilers. Grow up. People want to discuss certain things, so they will.
>>550155
I'd have no problem with Overlord on /jp/ if they were actually being allowed to exist on /jp/.
Instead there are no new posts allowed apparently
It's being hit from both /a/ and /jp/ until the fandom is just banned
>>550156
>don't go into threads
>don't go into any thread ever
then why even have /a/ at all?
>people have always spoiled shit
>people have always been dicks and broken the rules, sorry we can't enforce the rules anymore
where do you even come up with this shit?
I am absolutely sick of it, I've had 2 series this season ruined for me because when I go into the anime discussion thread there's always 10 or so faggots that think they're hot shit for dropping the LN into google translate and telling everyone the next big spoiler
fuck that shit, actually do something if you're going to have a rule about it, don't just throw your hands up in the fucking air
>>550152
Listen here, faggot. Read very carefully.
>they all just make a new thread back on /a/ and get away with it
>They probably wouldn't shitpost their own threads as hard if they weren't able to just go back and keep making more.
Boy this really sounds like I want them to leave and stay gone, doesn't it?
No, you dense prick. I'm saying they wouldn't shitpost in the threads they have on /jp/ if there was actually any enforcement of this shit beyond a single thread.
If a bunch of /a/ wants to talk about LNs on /jp/? Great! Let them!
But they aren't. They won't. They don't want to either. Moving one thread just makes one shitty thread where they complain, then they go back to /a/.
It doesn't fix anything.
>>550158
Yeah, /jp/ mods aren't cooperating with all the new LN threads over there. There must be a clear guidance.
>>550161
Rulefagging is cancer, fucktard. The rules have always been meaningless and only board standards have ever really been enforced.
How fucking new are you? You sound incredibly new. Fuck off. People discuss what they want and if they want to discuss content further than the adaptation. deal with it. If you don't want spoilers, don't use /a/, simple as that. This has always been the case and always will be. Go back to fucking mal if it upsets you.
Nobody wants this mods. Even the arguments for it, aren't really for it. Its just people arguing for other things like no spoilers or no generals. No one is saying this particular decision is a good one.
>>550163
they aren't. though.
Go to /a/, they have 0 threads.
mods are going overboard and just banning everything, trying to force over to /jp/, while the /jp/ mod is just deleting EVERYTHING
Nice welcome party
>>550164
Same thing happened with the /vg/ mods when the /co/ mod kicked those threads off. It took a couple of days before /vg/ decided to be cool and let them stay there. People were banned for no reason over it though. I wonder if this is the same mod, and he just took over /a/ for this month or something like that.
>>550169
/jp/ is probably just a janitor trying to enforce /jp/ culture as she should. He's probably waiting for another mod to come around that will tell this /a/ one to knock this shit off.
>>550172
>/co/ moderating /a/
Wouldn't be surprised. Isn't there some /u/ shitter mod who comes to /a/ to cherrypick shit he doesn't like?
>>550163
The people interested in LNs in the first place won't even look for a thread on /jp/ but on /a/ because of the amount of adaption and because it simply makes more sense.
Especially if people started reading it because of an adaption. There's no way they will even come up with the possibility of going there since, well, they watched the damn anime or read the manga after all.
>Anime & Manga
>Otaku Culture
Oh, I wonder where I will go if I want to discuss the LN I just read which is basically an anime or manga in written form?
>>550174
>enforce /jp/ culture
He's just deleting meta posts. If he was enforcing /jp/ culture the threads would be deleted.
>>550169
>>550164
>/jp/ mods aren't cooperating
>while the /jp/ mod is just deleting EVERYTHING
Yeah quality fucking posts being deleted left and right. Golden on-topic posts about the LN such as
>"Boy, janny's on a roll today. Ganbare janny!" -Anonymous, 2016
>"Seriously fuck that newfag mod on /a/. We need Hiro badly to sort this mess out" -Anonymous, 2016
>"well I only see touhou on the board and everyone else fucked off" -Anonymous, 2016
>"No one is ever going to come to /jp/ to discuss Light Novels. That mod can suck a dick." -Anonymous, 2016
>"So is this thread going to be babysat by mods until we get another unwanted general?" -Anonymous, 2016
>"Fuck you guys. Go back to /a/ or go to /lit/ if you want to discuss LNs instead of spreading your shit on this board." -Anonymous, 2016
>"no 1 knows...... mod being stupid" -Anonymous, 2016
>"then the mod will delete this thread again... coz stupid" -Anonymous, 2016
>"will this get deleted too???" -Anonymous, 2016
What a fucking disaster! Call the fucking police.
>>550168
I think it's good, I'd rather have the LNfags gone
if the people here are any indication, they're incredibly elitist for odd fucking reasons and can't think even for a second about anyone else or using control+s if they're going to talk about something
send them off to /jp/ or their own board I don't care, but I'd just like to be able to enjoy /a/ or actually be a part of threads without having to worry whether or not the next post I read is going to completely ruin that one series I kind of like this season
fact is LNfags hate anime and manga along with the people who watch them, and they want to be a part of their own special club, so why not let them?
send them off to their own board or to /jp/ or wherever else
>>550182
>send them off
They won't migrate, we've been over this lad.
>>550182
>/a/ needs to be my hugbox
uh
>>550182
>/a/ calling someone else elitist
Heh.
>>550182
Again, you're problem is just about spoilers. That's on you. Go make a new thread asking for that to be enforced more if its really that important to you. That doesn't mean we should change the way things have been for years just because you can't control yourself. .
>>550182
LNfags are no diffferent to mangafags, animefags and vnfags, anon. The only difference is that LNfags ar low enough to eat MTLs.
>actually be a part of threads without having to worry whether or not the next post I read is going to completely ruin that one series I kind of like this season
Fuck off newfag.
>>550187
He's not /a/. He's from MAL and he's upset that people don't hold public dialogue at his comprehension.
>>550182
Boy, I sure love generalizing. I also hate how every animeonlyfag is a whiny little bitch like you.
>>550182
How To New The Easiest Way Tutorial
>>550182
>LNfags are one solid block of people that don't want anything to do with anime and manga
Holy strawman
>>550192
>someone disagrees with me so hes a shitposter
Are you a generalfag as well?
>>550192
>/a/ doesn't migrate
>/a/ is not a hugbox
>this is shitposting
wewest of lads
>>550182
Spoilerkid, just leave already, really. Nobody cares. The rules aren't even that hard about spoilers.
It's RECOMMENDED to use tags and spoiling on purpose MAY result in a ban. The majority isn't even on purpose.
Spoiler tags are actually being used quite well on /a/. Especially in adaption threads were every second post is basically "spoiler please."
>>550182
I don't even care if all LN threads get moved to /jp/, but they're almost always franchise threads that freely talk about anime/manga/LN/drama CDs and whatever else is to talk about. And they've been on /a/ for a long time.
Are we supposed to keep separate threads on /a/ and /jp/ depending on the focus on the thread? Seems a bit ridiculous, to say the least. Just decide on something. Right now this is a grey area.
>all this butthurt
Generalfags BTFO.
>>550199
Why is it so hard to talk about just the LN or just the anime?
>>549583
I didn't know that moderation actually existed on /a/.
>>550203
>general
These are mostly threads that are anime and manga that get some source material discussion and then deleted.
The actual Light Novel general, when a moon comes out, gets deleted within an hour at most.
Let /a/ related stuff stay on /a/ or get rid of all non anime/manga threads. That means no more buyfag, off to /toy/ with you. No more waifu bullshit, off to /c/ with you. No more drawfags, off to /ic/ with you. No more "I'm going to post this every day" fish girl. Delete that shit right off the internet.
Be consistent mods. Don't cherry pick things based on your personal opinion.
>>550199
It already has been decided. moot said LNs belonged on /a/ when /jp/ was created. I remember people had doubts on whether he even knew what a LN was if VNs were /jp/ and LNs were /a/. Mods confirmed this several times later. This is just one mod on a crusade without any actual rule changes.
>>550205
if you consider trashmen throwing your neighbors trash on your lawn doing their job, then yeah
>>550205
/a/ would be better off without them.
>>550207
>wanting to get rid of every day until you like it
Confirmed newfag.
I agree with everything else though.
>>550204
Because this is 4chan, not a traditional forum. Threads don't have a topic, only a conversation.
>>550209
moot's long gone though. There's really no one to reign in mods anymore.
>>550209
"ok, KS can go in the board i'm creating to address the bazillion problems /v/ has. but generally, VNs and LNs go here, and we are not making a /vn/."- moot, on the creation of /vg/
>>550212
I don't want to get rid of any of it. I just want the mods to stop being hypocrites.
>>550198
no, it's important to me, I'm sick of it happening time and time again when I start to like an adapted anime
you're effectively telling me that I should just drop it because mods are too lazy to enforce any kind of rules and because you want to be an elitist prick with your friends and drop spoilers on the "secondaryfags" you hate so much
>>550214
It's rein, anon, like a horse.
And there's me. I've been working out.
>>550216
You should be careful what you ask for. A long time ago, /jp/ asked for "consistent" moderation. They never recovered.
>>550182
>LNfags hate anime and manga
>>550215
>KS is at over 3k threads
>>550216
But none of it belongs on /a/. They should be removed.
>>550218
Please stop posting and lurk moar for 2 years. Otherwise, fuck back off to MAL.
>>550222
they do love complaining about how the anime butchered the source and flooded the fanbase with retards, it's like the number one thing you hear outside of the generals have no standards
>>550218
yeah and you just keep replying instead of fucking off
>>550229
None of the people actually talking about the LN are being deleted, just the meta complaining faggots.
Is it that shocking for /a/ to see moderation?
>>550227
I think you're letting a vocal minority shape your opinion of an entire community
>>550232
who's discussing the LN in the highschool dxd thread right now
i'll wait
>>550231
>3 years
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>550229
/jp/ mod is only deleting meta discussion like he should. /a/ mod is deleting anything actually discussing anything occurring in the LN and even some things that happened in the anime and leaving the meta discussion alone.
>>550218
You said that in here several times already and you were told that you won't avoid spoilers no matter what the mods do, be it banning, creating new boards, etc.
The only way to avoid a spoiler is not to go into the thread, there's absolutely no other way. If you want to discuss it, be prepared to be spoiled and that's it. Grow up, like someone already said.
This discussion is totally pointless.
>>550232
oh really?
"wtf" is now a meta complaint?
EVERY SINGLE post needed banned?
Just acknowledging the move deserves bans?
Fuck off jannie, you are why I don't want to go to /jp/, I mention the anime and I get banned
>>550232
Yeah, normally discussion just goes on naturally. Only obvious troll threads are removed completely. Its weird seeing people going through and taking out individual posts. Its not a bad thing, but the /jp/ mod would probably be better off letting people just vent for a few days before shutting down all the complaining. No one is happy about this right now and if you let people get it out of their system, they'll get over it faster.
>>550240
Anime discussion goes on /a/. Get bent.
>>550232
>>>/jp/15333343
really needed deleting huh? You're going to say this isn't overboard?
>>549583
You faggots absolutely deserve it.
Now /a/ just needs a ban on generals much like your kind.
>>550234
Who really talks about the LN in those threads at anytime? That's one discussion that probably needs to go to /c/ instead of japan. All they ever do is post those card game images over and over.
>>550247
Because the resident DxD population is on /a/ when they do post. They are currently waiting for the next season of their anime to start.
>>550245
A link back to another /a/ thread made after being told to go to /jp/?
You tell me, dude.
>>550245
Literally all the posts that were deleted deserved it, except for the ones telling the OP to fuck off.
>>550241
That's what /qa/ is for.
>>550240
>posts low quality garbage like 'wtf'
>expects not to get banned
absolutely cancerous
lurk more and read the rules
>>550239
so now I'm not supposed to go into a single thread on /a/?
when a new episode comes out and I watch it, I'm not supposed to talk about it, because if I do, there's gonna be a LNfag right there to tell me "hey kid, he dies in the next 2 episodes, don't get attached"
given how pretty much everything is an LN adaptation, none of the LNs are translated, and people seem to always bring up spoilers every single time what's the point of even going to /a/ then?
am I only supposed to discuss 5 year old shows that no one cares about anymore because they're finished?
>>550242
no, I'm sick of it, and I'm sick of being told to fuck off when I bring it up
I'm going to talk about it if I want
>>550252
>48 IP's
These are just the people who care enough to check this board for recent drama.
>>550253
wow so low quality, very welcoming board you have, not at all a shithole that no one would ever visit besides touhou autists
>>550254
you're being told to fuck off because you're a dumbass
so fuck off
>>550246
Generals are here to stay fag.
>>550256
>low quality
Ironing.
>>550256
>welcoming board
This isn't Germany, nobody has to welcome literal trash. Take your AOL summer netspeak and fuck off back to whatever naruto forums you crawled out of, kid.
>It's a "Overlord kiddies and animeonly's discover /qa/ episode"
Where's my popcorn?
>>550255
To be fair, how many people even know qa exists? If you're not using an extension and just looking at vanilla 4chan, its not listed at the top or on the home page. Plus the mods are deleting all the posts telling people to come here to complain.
>>550256
So, which shithole did you come from? Reddit, MAL, anisuki?
>>550254
Kill yourself. We might take you a little seriously when you stop talking like a 12 year old and learn what English is.
>I'm going to talk about it if I want
And people are going to talk about the source and compare it to the adaptation if they want. Animeonlyfags truly are fucking cancer, please refer to my post for other anon.
>>550262
Removing all generals from /a/ would mean removing the Precure thread. Hiro's not going to allow that because Precure fans in Japan have a reputation of being batshit insane axe murderers.
>>550258
Yea, not likely faggot. Going by the recent trends of communication with hiro, he's probably going to visit boards soon. Guess what the biggest complaint on /a/ is for a fucking long long time! Guess what is basically the most hated thing on the board! That's right, fucking generals.
>>550267
>There are at least some people in here who were genuinely fucked over by this mod
DxDfags and DALfags as well as Kawakami dudes who usually keep to themselves as far as I know got shit on.
>>550267
>genuinely fucked over
>wah I can't discuss my Chinese history novels on /a/ anymore even though I could just do it on another board
Yeah you're right, that does sound serious.
>>550267
>I guess it hit the DALfags the most.
Hasn't that long since had its translations stopped? Didn't its translator have a giant bitchfest because people on /a/ were accepting summaries from an anon?
All these people replying to that one spoiler guy. Just ignore him already. He's not worth it. Still, this thread really is pointless isn't it? Do mods even look at this board anymore, do they even care?
>>550240
Context, anon. /jp/ is laid back but that thread is a war zone.
>>550268
Most hated things on /a/ are crossboarders and mods.
>>550267
there is a way to avoid them f people actually use the spoiler tags or they don't force anime and LN discussion into the same general because "lol, only 1 thread per series"
>>550266
Damn, you're right. Thankfully, those cunts are in futaba instead of this website, so he'll be safe.
>>550272
>Do mods even look at this board anymore,
Only swaglord and I think Troid lurk /qa/. Or, well, I can't say swaglord lurks. He loves to shitpost and pick on idiots here.
>>550277
>troid
good job you probably summoned him
>>550269
kawakami guys seem the most chill of all the LN people. They have their thread when a new chapter comes out, and then it dies off and they go away till a new one comes along. They aren't the nonstop general waifu fags like DxD or DAL. Its a shame they're getting punished by this douche mod too. They probably will just stop making threads all together now.
>>550270
>going on other boards
>>550272
This vocal minority of shitters have been crying about LN content on /a/ for years now. No one in power cares and we continue to post LN content. I'm just here to smell their angry fumes.
>>550275
>hey don't force anime and LN discussion
4chan threads don't have a topic, only a conversation. Don't be retarded. You do understand what this means?
>>550270
t. guy who was never on /a/ before late 2015
>>550271
No, volume 14 translation is continuing but isn't being hosted publicly because of Kadokawa.
Some anon has access to it and has always been dumping the newest chapters on /a/ when the translation was done.
Earlier today, he started dumping chapter 4 of volume 14 and the mod deleted it a few posts after he started.
>>550279
>They aren't the nonstop general waifu fags like DxD or DAL
Yeah I posted in DxD and Kawakami for a while. On DxD's note it's usually best to stay out of waifu shows in between content releases.
>>550285
>t.
Whew lad. Go back to /int/ or wherever that meme came from.
>>550276
Is he even in Japan at the moment?
Last I heard he was living in France, although he was at Reitaisai recently.
>>550285
>t.
Cancer.
>>550289
Your lack of denial on holding an opinion on a board you don't frequent or are too new to know anything has been noted.
>wew lad
How about the kancolle threads. They're based on a game. Shouldn't they be moved to vg or something.
>>550289
Are you going for a case of irony here, anon?
>>550276
No, there are people there in those threads who live in Japan and watch it on tv. So he's not necessarily safe.
>>550293
>thinking generalfag mod-kun would remove one of the generals he likes
>>550294
Honestly I'm just baiting for (you)'s. You don't think mods are actually going to do anything based off this thread do you?
>>550280
>le my board is an island fag
You're the reason "board" ""culture"" is just a hive of shitposting.
>>550298
>""x""
I'm sorry, who's the authority on shitposting now?
>mod deleted a post telling him to delete a Konosuba LN thread
>didn't delete the Konosuba thread
Power abuse and bias if I've ever seen one.
>>550280
You do understand the crossboarding hate has never been about actually using other boards, right? Right newfag? I'll put it in a way you might understand.
>When in rome, do as the Romans do.
People like you are some of the real cancer. Taking shit so fucking literally and serious and being incapable of reading between the lines.
>>550300
Fuck this thread. How is the Konosuba LN?
>>550303
Funny.
>>550293
Millions died in that stuggle. Let their cursed souls find what little peace they can.
How about the Daily Japanese Threads? Those are as /jp/ as you can get.
>>549606
>LNfags would finally shut the fuck about the "secondaries" bullshit.
I would laugh long and hard if this all happened, because mod-kun couldn't deal with the anal annihilation after being called a filthy secondary in a LN thread.
>>550303
The context is fun.
The way said context is translated and written in, is not so fun.
>>550300
>open up Konasuba thread
>only blatant shitposts are deleted
>>550300
The translators have said they're going to stop doing their "fanfic" translation now that yen press has officially announced it. Leads more to the theory that this moderation is more about shutting down fan translations than enforcing nonexistent rules. YP employee confirmed to be the new /a/ mod.
>>550310
Fuck off madokafag.
>>550314
Never watched it, is it any good?
Time for an LN board?
Can the people piggy-backing on this thread to bring attention to their own little issues (i.e. anti-general fags, anti-spoiler fags, etc) fuck off and start their own thread to highlight their own issues?
This thread is about whether LNs should be allowed on /a/, so stop shifting the fucking goalposts, you faggots.
>>550315
It's not bad, but it's better watched without knowing anything about it so it's probably not worth it for you. Because if you've been on 4chan any amount of time you probably already know all about it.
>>550318
>butt-blasted general faggot
>>550317
>generalfaggotry
Fuck off.
>>550318
>This thread is about whether LNs should be allowed on /a/
But we already have the answer for that. Yes, if it's a LN that has an anime/manga adaptation. Like it always has been.
>>550317
You should ctr+f "migrate"
>>550317
There's really not enough content to call for one, you're talking about 3-5 threads here. Plus you would end up with the same problem. People would want to talk about everything related to a series, so you'd have anime and manga being discussed on the ln board.
>>550318
This thread is more about the basically unwritten rule we had all this time which was suddenly fucked up by a mad.
And that is, allowing the discussion of a LN as long as it has a manga or anime adaption.
But I don't mind them fixing the LN issue altogether.
>>550322
actually, its a thread about how the later has suddenly changed and we want it to go back to the way its always been, back to the way moot specifically said it should be.
>>550318
No, how about you fuck off with your generalfag shit.
>>550325
What issue? There are more pressing issues on 4chan than the discussion of source material in threads that are about the adaptation of said source material.
Shit like Naruto not being a bannable offense anymore.
>>550306
Worthless. They're only good for the pastebin.
>>550326
>the later has suddenly changed
Except it actually hasn't because the mod is selectively enforcing his new "rule" by allowing LN discussion on /a/ of series he likes such as in >>>/a/142282036
>>550328
>Naruto
>pressing
Stop trying to fit in. DBZ and other shonenshit are bigger problems.
>>550328
That ended because of mod overreach too. Everyone was fine with no naruto, then a mod decided on his own that ment no Bleach too. Moot like Bleach so he came in and told the mods to stop discriminating against certain series.
>>550327
So you admit that you don't actually care about the original topic, and are just here to promote your own agenda?
>>550331
>Stop trying to fit in. DBZ and other shonenshit are bigger problems.
I was just giving an example.
>>550330
To me, its more likely this mod only knows certain series are LN based. That thread starts specifically talking about a new episode so he probably thinks its anime related. I bet he's only going into threads that start out talking about LNs, then keeping track of what those LNs are and just focusing on them. Either that, or he his a Yen Press employee.
>>550328
I don't know what to call it, issue or problem? Whatever.
If you want to talk about a popular LN which has no adaption, it will have an active discussion on /a/ until a mod finds the thread and deletes it. Because either it has, like stated, no adaption, and even if it has one, sooner or later something like that will move toward a LN/WN general like almost all MT/Kumo/Shield Hero/etc. threads have.
And when you make it on /jp/ it will simply die without even reaching five replies.
>>550335
>That thread starts specifically talking about a new episode
Except it isn't. It's a joke. The series ended at one cour. And they keep increasing the pretend episode each week when a new LN translation comes out.
>>550335
>Either that, or he is a Yen Press employee.
You've posted this garbage twice now, and I really cannot tell if you're serious. I sure hope not.
>>550318
that's not what shifting the goalposts is
shifting the goalposts would be if someone said LNs don't belong on /jp/ and were showed LN threads on /jp/
if they then said "well they shouldn't be there anyways, we like it on /a/"
that is shifting the goalposts, there were shown to be wrong and they backed up their position so they wouldn't be wrong anymore
just say stop piggybacking on our issue
>muv luv thread still up
Come on mods, send that to /vg/ where it belongs too. Or /jp/ since Schwarzesmarken is a LN, I don't mind either way.
>>550343
>muv luv
>belonging on /vg/
Sup newfag
>on /jp/
Sup retarded newfag
>>550346
Sup generalshitter.
>>550347
I already told you a month ago that it belongs on /m/, fag.
>>550346
It sure as hell doesn't belong on /a/ and its general is cancer.
>>550335
No, it's specifically a LN thread as that "episode" doesn't exist and all the posts are about the LN. It's also a Yen Press licensed LN. This is very clearly a case of "stop posting what I don't like" by a mod.
>>550338
I know, but the mod doesn't. That's my point. This mod doesn't seem to know much about anime, manga, light novels, or /a/ He's just randomly trying to enforce a rule that's never existed before. So all he can go on is thread titles. That one clearly fooled him. Also, I don't even really believe that. Im more just reaching for a reason why he's cherry picking certain series, other than just a personal grudge thing.
>>550348
Anything that belongs on /m/ belongs on /a/ as well, retard.
I think the mod has no idea what he's doing at this point. Even the new janitors have an idea of what a shitposting is.
>>550348
Oh right I forgot about /m/. Wherevers fine, just so long as it's off /a/
>>550349
>has 3 anime
>a shit ton of manga
>doesn't belong on /a/
You're only basis for an argument is that some threads don't bother to discuss those.
>all thes weeaboos whining
No wonder Hiro doesn't post often.
>>550350
Its Yen press, but the translators just announced they were dropping it because Yen Press finally started working on it. I don't believe that has anything to do with it either way though. Looking at the overlord thread now, the mod seems to be leaving some ln discussion, and just deleting posts complaining about him or directly linking to translations. That makes it look like this is more anti translation than anything. Maybe they got a C&D letter and are actually trying to obey it.
>>550356
And on the opposite of the spectrum
>delete this board i dont like it
>ban all those dirty weeaboos i dont like anime
>ban all this shit 4chan was made for
></q/> post
No wonder Hiro doesn't post here. Anti-weebosses are fucking stupid.
>>550356
>people complaining when inane shit happens to them
Holy fuck, tell me it ain't so lord!
Just keep Overlord threads in fucking /a/ and ban the cancerous attention whores.
It's that fucking easy.
>>550357
I think that's more likely than a rogue mod
that YP or some other licensing company is on kiro and the mods' asses about TLs going around
>>550357
No. Because I tried just making regular discussion about it ignoring the drama and my posts got deleted as well.
>>550361
>It's that fucking easy.
Nothing's easier than pushing it all onto /jp/.
>>550363
Shit never would have been taken seriously if moot was still around.
>>550359
More like everyone is a stupid whiner that can't be pleased.
>>550366
leaving well enough alone is easier.
>mods never post with capcode after the nipplemod incident
kek I guess they think they can play batman now.
>>550370
Clearly not, since it gets moved to /jp/.
Nothing is easier that that.
Why do people consider /jp/ as /a/'s trashcan?
>>550373
Because it is.
>>550371
They do, even if it's just robot "this thread was moved to x" posts.
>>550375
Those probably aren't even real posts, just the side effect of pushing a button somewhere.
The mod is blatantly abusing power now, 15 minute bans for people complaining about the move no-one asked for and mass deletion of actual discussion if it involved the LN, making the thread look like a schizophrenic shit-heap.
>>550374
But Iike going there. There's no bait posts 24/7 unlike /a/ and no shonengarbage.
>>550361
Unfortunately, it will always be easier to just delete or move entire threads than individual posts.
>>550371
They rarely did anyway. Which is a shame, since even a little transparency and clarification would go a long way. Regularly making pronouncements (even unpopular ones) would be better than leaving us all in the dark wondering what the hell is going on when they actually do something.
>>550378
There's just waifu posting 24/7 and idol/kancolle garbage.
Yukarin is a cute! CUTE!
>>550380
Those aren't shitpost/bait desu.
>>550380
woah that's my mom dude
When will mods delete /a/? A bunch of spoiled brats is what they are.
so the mod is now not deleting LN discussion, just posts that have links to the LN translations.
>>550383
>When will mods delete /a/?
Do you also consider blowing up the Three Gorges Dam to be a viable tactic if you live in China?
>>550383
Hell yeah. And they should delete /b/, /v/, and /pol/ while they are at it. Surely nothing would go wrong.
>>550385
>Three Gorges Dam
Sorry, I don't understand weeb shit. Speak english, please.
>>550384
And anyone complaining about the mod.
For anyone reading check this archive
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/142336734/#142343619
And compare it to this thread
>>>/a/142344003
See the mass deletion? Make up your own mind on whether its justified, from my perspective the severe mod interference with complete lack of mod communication on what looks like a one-man crusade is a total abuse of mod power.
>>550387
Literally not a single word in that sentence was not pertaining to the English language. Are you sitting in a pile of your own feces right now?
>>550387
Are you 12?
>>550388
but what can you do about it? There's no mod oversight, and this will continue as long as the mod wants it to, or until people give up and bend to his will
>>550380
>KanColle
Funny you mention that, I used to be on /a/'s KanColle threads for over a year until they manage to reach a level below horrible.
>>550389
He's probably an underaged spoiled brat who doesn't know what a gorge is.
Thanks for proving how much of a retard you are, mod. When moot added the LN bit to /jp/'s rules back in 2012, LNs were nowhere nearly as popular as they are nowadays, and the amount of anime based on LNs was much, much smaller. Today, LNs play as big of a part in anime as manga does, and thus forcing discussion regarding it away from /a/ is completely fucking stupid - however, because you have no interest in anime you don't know this, right? That's why you can only base your decisions on what's written in the rules instead of trying to make sense of things by yourself.
I'll use this chance to ask Hiro to remove the LN part out of /jp/'s rules as well because it's done too much damage by now, thanks to mods who don't know shit.
>mod deletes every post that shits on him
>mod deletes every post with overlord fanfic links in it
>mod doesn't delete pastebins in other threads
Yeah, this seems to be a personal issue and not connected to the rules in any way.
>>550393
>KanColle
Who are you quoting?
>>550392
>implying LNfags will just up and leave when there is nowhere else to go
>implying /jp/ is accepting with open arms the coming flood of DxD, DAL, Index and every other seasonal adaption
We fought off nipplemod, this cunt will fuck off in time too.
>>550398
Yeah, I said kancolle. Don't misquote me.
>>550399
Since when has anyone ever given a shit what /jp/ thought?
>>550400
A baiting 12yo.
Well I'm on 4chan after all.
>>550403
moot did.
>>550399
I just keep thinking about how this is exactly what happened with co and vg, and the mods won there after a week of everyone being pissed off about it. Granted there's more ln people on a then there were vg people on co, but in the end, if there's a commitment to constantly deleting something, eventually people will give up trying to post it.
>>550403
We don't and never will, but they aren't going to accept dirty foreigners in Touhou country without endless shitposting for a move no one asked for.
>>550400
>mouthbreather in damage control
Next thing you're gonna say is you didn't look up what a gorge was.
>>550407
>a
>co
>vg
Fuck off.
>tfw got a 1 day global ban yesterday for posting a cropped porn face on /g/
Is that normal? I don't post on /g/ often.
>>550409
/jp/'s shitposting potential per capita is at record lows, pretty much every major 4chan board can outdo it at this point.
They were proud, but their spirit was broken.
>>550416
What broke their spirit? How did a people so skilled they coined ironic shitposting become so tame and slow?
>>550419
/mgg/
can't self-moderate when the moderation is against you
>>550419
2 nukes by moot.
>>550416
/jp/ was never a "shitposting" board.
What are you even talking about?
>>550419
generals.
>>550350
I'd say it's more of a "I hate you so I'll use the smallest nick in the rules to delete your threads" case. This has happened way too much already.
>>550430
I was posting in those threads so I'll give you the nutshell version as I can remember it.
Very gray area topic on /a/ that morphed into a general from monster monsume and attracted all the shitposting and other typical general shit that follows (ie fanfiction). Mods get tired and force it on /jp/.
/jp/ old guard is forever kill
>implying the mods didn't delete the overlord threads because he didn't want to get spoiled of his favorite annie may
>>550420
I don't get how this contained general on the board that was told to contain their shit by moot himself could have destroyed everything as hard as you anti-generalfags imply. They seem to even be well-behaved enough to know that /jp/ is slow as fuck, and stay in their thread until it's almost dying on page 10.
>but cancer and
There's cancer everywhere on 4chan.
>>550434
You do know that there was a time before that, right?
>>550430
I am.
/jp/ never was and never will be a "shitposting" board.
The term "shitposting" has no positive connotations. Only cancerous crossboarders and secondaries like you use that term positively.
>>550437
Yeah, and those days aren't the days that chased all content creators out and brought in a new era of iron fisted moderation. Its that period of zero moderation in between that earned /jp/ the reputation as purely shitposting. The raw and hostile version of /s4s/.
>>550436
Because /mgg/ did not originate on /jp/, and is one of the few cases where a large /a/ exodus comes to /jp/.
>>550439
If you didn't enjoy the /sp/ explosion at their mod then you lack all sense of humor.
>>550445
/sp/ aren't even people.
>>550449
They really aren't. Anyone got the collab of that one turbo autist who stalked a tripfag?
>>550436
The old guard and shitposter remnants of /jp/ joined forces for the first time in their miserable lives to push MGG off the board, but were cut down like cavalry charging machine-gun emplacements.
>>550439
There's a fine line between shitposting and funposting. Sometimes shitty posts are funny. Lenfried MOST ICHIBAN boyfriend's posts were all shitty but they were kind of funny.
Militarizied shitposting that invades and destroys regular threads, while sliding everything of value off the board is very different.
>>550451
I have the PDF somewhere.
>>550452
I honestly don't give a shit about what whatever you're talking about.
If it breaks the rules, I simply report it.
>>550457
You're doing god's work.
>>550430
So the monstergirl thread on /a/ used to talk about all kinds of monstergirl media, including stuff that wasn't anime. Because of this, it attracted a gang of dedicated shitposters. It was literally the same people coming in day after day and making the same shitposts. It was revealed that a mod was encouraging the shitposts to kill off the monstergirl threads. So after literal months, the writing was on the wall and we got kicked to /jp/.
mugen
>>550457
>no fun allowed
wew lad I bet you're upset whenever a designated shipost thread reaches bump limit
>>550457
And what did you do back in the days of old /jp/ when the only rule was "all things otaku welcome"?
>>550457
I bet you sided with the mods during the /sp/ uncivil war you cuck.
>>550461
>it's already been 2 years
>>550414
/g/ doesn't like meatbags.
>>550461
Why couldn't this happen more often?
>>550457
>rulefagging
Rules are guidelines, only thing that matters rule wise is the culture of the board.
>>550469
because killing boards is not the solution to temporary problems
>>550469
Because it's a mod doing the opposite of what they're supposed to do?
>>550469
Because it broke two boards for weeks and led to anarchy?
Because everyone unanimously agree the result was worse?
>>550473
>disgusting circlejerk told to fuck off
Seems good to me or is there something I'm not getting here?
>>550473
The mods are only here to ban cp and enforce board culture. Banning generals sounds exactly like what they should be doing.
>>550481
>banning generals increases post quality
I bet you want to ban /pol/ and /b/ too as well. I bet you wanted to ban the /mlp/ general on /co/ whilst it was a thing, before they became so much of a problem their autism conjured a board.
>>550485
>strawmanning
Deal with it faggot, generals are cancer and are everything 4chan is not. Containment is also not the answer, so, don't try using your faggot /mlp/ example.
>>550481
Luckily we're not talking about generals here. We're talking about threads discussing specific things related to anime and manga, such as a new chapter of the source material being translated.
>>550486
>can't handle a little strawman
wew lad
>>550489
No, the comment chain was about the anon asking why the mods don't shitreck shitty threads like generals more.
>>550486
Banning generals when there is new material to discuss leads to flooding into other threads and multiple threads started. This happens on every board faggot just filter the thread if they poke your autism button.
>>550492
>multiple threads
Oh no! Whatever shall we do? It's not like that's how 4chan has literally always operated.
>>550492
There is nothing wrong with multiple threads. There is something wrong with people bitching that anons make more than one thread for something. That is the way 4chan has always functioned. There is nothing wrong with 50 threads for one topic.
>>550491
Because MARK MY WORDS mod died.
>>550478
Actively allowing and encouraging shitposting, one of the things mods are supposed to prevent, on threads they don't like instead of actually trying to find a compromise or doing their job. We've seen what happens when we allow mods to make judgments based on their feelings.
Anti-general crusaders really prefer a hundred threads shitting the entire board? Fucking really?
>>550495
>>550494
Oh you like those fun multiple threads?
You weren't there lads, you weren't there when /co/ has to share a board with MLP whenever a new episode came out. Imagine the front page being nothing but horse pussy as far as your scroll wheel can roll.
An avalanche of autism every week until the generals came along.
We don't like them, they encourage circlejerks, namefags and retarded injokes that go on way past their time. But you don't know the alternative. You don't want to know.
>>550499
They want chaos. Hiro also wants chaos. It is inevitable.
>>550495
>There is nothing wrong with 50 threads for one topic.
You've never seen a board during a big event, like when the first season of Korra ended, or when a new character was revealed for Smash 4 have you?
>>550499
Congrats, its almost as if most people who are against generals are people who have been here for a long time and were here before general cancer invaded. Yes, that is how 4chan operates. If one thing is getting a hundred fucking threads at once, it is probably a shit storm or something incredibly popular. Such is how 4chan operates.
>Anti-general crusaders
Calling anti-generalfags crusaders is dishonest as well considering generalfags are literal invaders.
>>550499
Do you honestly think every topic had a bunch of threads before generals? Guess what, one would usually be picked and be the most popular one and the others would die off. The difference is they would actually have something to discuss since the topic hadn't been discussed to death in general #1678
Purging generals has it's upside though. The catalog will move faster and make the board actually active.
>>550509
Big events always explode out of generals naturally, look to /pol/ this November regardless of the result to see an all-week shitstorm that far exceeds one thread.
Generals are just an uncomfortable alternative to keep autism during downtime at a minimal.
>>550503
>they encourage circlejerks
Thankfully, tripfags still get called out with a decent frequency. It's also not possible to have a circlejerk if everyone's anonymous.
>namefags
They also get called out every so often. They're also 100% newfags and impersonating them is easy enough.
>and retarded injokes
Every fandom for any one thing has that.
Any argument against generals can also be applied towards any other thread on the entire site. People hate them either because most people also hate them, because /vg/ has a terrible reputation, or because they don't want to see threads about things they hate on their board.
>>550501
It is almost as if you are complaining about something that has always been a non-issue.
>>550507
No, I have seen big events. Guess what? That's how 4chan fucking functions. I generally enjoy them instead of bitching about how fact 4chan is running as intended. Something big happened so people are making a big deal out of it! FUCKING WOW.
Big events don't happen very often and are normally the result of something popular. Why would I complain? Using them as an example is also dishonest because they ARE RARE. On-top of that, even if the 50 thread thing was common, most of those would die at 20 posts like 95% of threads on 4chan always has. In addition, every single one of those threads would be higher fucking quality than every general.
As expected of the overlord /q/ thread defending cancer generals.
>>550515
Oh no Anon read my post I agree they are necessary evil, but you know as well as I that namefags and circlejerks are a feature at epidemic levels in all generals. I see no fix in sight so just grin and bear it.
Faggot mod is now asleep and would you look at that the post quality and discussion immediately improved.
>>550520
Wait, /q/ is the one defending generals now? I though /q/ and /qa/ have always been against them.
>>550521
I see namefags absolutely everywhere nowadays, though, and I don't recall seeing them too often on generals and threads that might be called generals a while ago. It seems to be just an influx of newfags from somewhere else who saw a name field and thought they had to fill it.
>>550477
>Because it broke two boards for weeks and led to anarchy?
You sure about that?
Because I remember that happening, and after a couple of bitchy threads like this everything went back to normal.
"Weeks" you say?
Are you sure it was "Weeks" and not "A day, with mild grumbles that were largely drowned out by everybody else following"?
>>550515
>People hate them either because most people also hate them, because /vg/ has a terrible reputation, or because they don't want to see threads about things they hate on their board.
It is almost as if generals go against everything that is 4chan? It is almost as if they fucking kill boards. No, that can't be the case.
>>550521
>necessary evil
They aren't. Containment isn't the answer.
>>550520
I actually like discussing thins an not having them pushed off the board by twenty identical threads because every sperg is freaking out over some dumb shit I don't care about.
>>550526
>everything that is 4chan
So contained and recurring threads about a subject in particular go against everything that is 4chan? If people are acting like retards in any of them, it's their own fault, not because it's a general.
>>550532
>im going to switch the meaning of a word right down to the bare fucking bones to ignore the argument
Fuck you.
Remember when "Condense your threads!" was the big meme?
Now its "REEEEEEEEE GENERALS"
>>550525
No faggot, one day drama isn't recounted by board vets years later as the big event before the downslide.
>>550535
Those condense your threads anons were always a minority that were told to fuck off. It wasn't a requirement or something forced, it was polite posting etiquette to not spam shit no one cares about. It was a etiquette that you weren't required to follow.
>>550531
>dumb shit I don't care about
Tough shit, because everyone else does. 4chan isn't catered for you faggot.
>>550537
The joke is moot and other mods have made stickies telling people to condense threads back before "generals" even became a phrase. Duplicates on other boards did and still do get pruned. Being a depressingly new retard with your revisionist attitude is what needs to fuck off.
>>550536
>recounted by board vets years later
Jesus christ get off your high horse, or do you really think a few threads that get deleted on /a/ is a fucking great catastrophe hearken back to the fall of rome?
>>550531
Yea and guess what? No one cares faggot. 4chan isn't a traditional forum. If you want to discuss something, make a thread. Doesn't matter if one is already up, if you want to make a thread, just do it. If it dies, its because its shit and no one cares. If something was getting 20 threads, its because its popular or something big happened. Welcome to 4chan fucktard.
I wish the catalog got removed.
>>550540
No nigger, we got asked what killed /jp/ and we gave you an answer.
You underplay it and say it was one day drama but you clearly weren't here when it happened because even if you disagree on it being the catalyst event it was something that wasn't settled as a mild grumble on an afternoon.
>>550539
So why are you complaining about 4chan not catering to you?
>>550541
>I wish the catalog got removed
Fuck off no-one wants to look through a mountain of shit to see something decent.
>>550540
Condense your threads by moot and mods didn't mean generals, it meant don't spam shit no one cares about. Exactly what I said. Like as don't make 50 threads for fucking Naruto. No one is going to get upset if you made 5 threads for an airing anime and most people won't be bitching if something like code geass happened. If anything, most people join in on that.
>>550534
If that's what you're complaining about, then please give me the correct definition of a general, as I can't at all see the difference between a general and a thread that gets remade often.
>>550537
>It was a etiquette that you weren't required to follow.
And I'm thankful for how people are better behaved than you. I enjoy having my home board not be dominated by any one thing outside of big events, thank you.
>>550541
>>>/rules/v/
>Please refrain from reposting. If possible, try to skim the board for threads pertaining to your topics/info that may have already been posted.
Even the rules for a board as bad as /v/ encourage using the fucking catalog to look for threads about whatever you want to post. Please don't be an ass and spam threads just because MUH GENERALS.
>>550543
>monster girls moving to /jp/ killed /jp/
Loving every laugh, anon.
>>550543
MGG didn't kill /jp/'s shitposting spirit, it only rang the funeral bells. What really killed /jp/ was the long war between shitposters and staff.
The board is still perfectly usable if you want to discuss on-topic things with on-topic people.
>>550550
>mods being caught shitposting and interfering with threads they don't like
>mods putting their feelings over doing their fucking job
A cancer is a cancer anon, no matter what funny colour mole it takes.
>>550546
>don't spam shit no one cares about
This is 4chan, anything can be considered "shit no one cares about". As said previously, it's proper etiquette to look for a thread about whatever you want to talk before making a new one, or it would be if people weren't so afraid of having their threads being labeled generals because reddit and tumblr found /vg/ and dominated the entire board, causing the reputation of it and generals as a whole to plummet.
>>550556
Spam of anything in particular has always been liked even less.
>>550558
Spam generally implies a lot. 10 threads for something isn't generally considered spam unless it is something stupid no one likes.
>>550553
The only actual job the mods have is deleting cp. Mods have never been required to do anything else unless told to by the admin. You are thinking of jannies. Mods delete shit because they care or well, in modern times it seems to be some sort of power wank. The mods have always basically modded by personal feelings. It was just that it used to generally be in favour of the users of a board.
Ok guys, pack up. Original topic discussion has ended. Thread has been hijacked by anti-general fags.
This is why I use 4chan mostly for fun posting and Reddit for serious discussion.
I told you lads.
>>550568
There is no 'hijack', it is just 4chan running as intended. Threads don't have topics.
>He actually thinks this leads to any sort of conversation.
>>550568
>being this bootyblasted
Dude....
>>550568
>conversation naturally evolves
>ALRIGHT GUYS THREAD OVER START A NEW ONE
>this is what generalfags actually believe
>>550576
Red best girl.
>>550576
4chan is not a forum.
>>550585
Then why the fuck are you typing at me right now, you inbred fuck? Start posting images because this is an IMAGEBOARD.
>>550571
But one of the reasons why you hate generals is because they go off-topic.
>>550586
I don't want to share my images with you though. ;^)
>>550587
There is a difference between organic conversation and forced conversation made by idiots trying to keep their thread alive AND blogging about themselves like anyone cares.
>>550588
Left: any thread and any general on any board
Right: /vg/
>>550592
>forced conversation made by idiots trying to keep their thread alive AND blogging about themselves like anyone cares.
But that doesn't ever happen.
>organic conversation
So it's okay if a thread you like derails but not if a general for something does the same, right?
>>550596
>But that doesn't ever happen.
No words.
>>550596
Don't try to argue with anti-generalfags. The amount of doublethink they have to output would likely kill an average man through aneurysm.
>There's too much shitposting in generals
>So I want 20x the shitposting in the form of new threads instead of contained to one I can hide.
>But also I want mods to clean those threads because I hate spam
>But make sure they don't all group up in one thread either because that's bad for arbitrary reasons.
>>550600
This passive agressive attitude is typical for generalfags. Are you a landwhale?
>>550600
>taking every literally and shit out of context to try and push your shitty threads
The only argument that has ever been presented for generals is that they are contained. An argument that a. is false containment is just a petridish b. goes against everyway 4chan has ran and is something spouted by people who don't want to adapt to the climate here and just want neat clean forum culture here.
There is also a difference between shitposting and fun posting, even if the line is thin. You are literally stripping peoples argument to bare bones, strawmanning them all because you refuse to accept that your thread format has been hated on the site since their very creation and were something that was forced on people here.
>>550606
Okay, but what does this have to do with Overlord light novel?
>>550599
>By concept they exist in the right.
Yes, because by concept generals as you say only exist on /vg/. People who don't want their threads to die exist in every board.
>>550605
Aren't you doing exactly the same thing?
>>550606
>false containment
That's because people are either retards who don't use the catalog, or anti-generalfags such as you.
You're the one who seems to be strawmanning here.
>>550612
>Aren't you doing exactly the same thing?
No.
>>550612
>because by concept generals as you say only exist on /vg/.
No, they don't. Just because they don't have fucking general in OP, it doesn't mean it isn't a general. Pay more attention to the fucking boards you use. There is also a massive difference between people not wanting their thread which is actually still going and retard OPs not wanting to accept their thread is shit and fucking people trying to keep a thread alive just because it must be up.
>That's because people are either retards who don't use the catalog, or anti-generalfags such as you.
No, don't be retarded. I don't have to fucking look at the catalog, refer to >>550563 image. I like how it was ignored as well. Not just is containment retarded, it is just a fucking petri-dish. This shit happens and shows itself even in fucking /vg/. 4chan isn't a forum, containment is not an answer here to anything. If you want to defend your cancer threads, come up with something that isn't containment, it isn't a answer. It's never a fucking answer and /mlp/ isn't an example. In-fact, it only supports my side. /mlp/ only made everything worse on both sides.
At this point of time you are literally just going no u.
>>550618
But >>550563 is exactly the same thing as >>550588 in text form. It doesn't do anything to prove anything other than trying to convey criticism through exaggerated humor.
>containment is not an answer here to anything
It is, however, proper etiquette when you remember that more than one people uses the site. Therefore, if there is already a thread about something, you should either try to use it or make your own thread if you dislike how posting is going in there, not just make a hundred threads to talk about every single aspect of that because FUCK GENERALS GRRR (although if you're like that then you don't give a shit about etiquette anyway).
And /mlp/ made everything worse because it has a fucking terrible fandom, not because it's a containment board or because it started as a general. The quality of any general, or any thread for that matter, obviously depends on the quality of the community for that subject in particular.
Mod is still deleting Overlord threads by the way.
>>550641
Good.
>>550644
How is deleting anime and manga related threads good?
>>550646
Light novels, not anime and manga.
>>550644
They should delete Sakurafish threads instead.
>>550650
Still related to the anime and manga. Why can't it be a side discussion?
>>550628
>more than one people uses the site
Great thing to bring up! Someone did once say that changes to 4chan shouldn't come at the cost of fellow anons. Guess what! Generals come at the cost of your fellow anons. Generals are for the 30 people who live at them and sacrifice every other single person who wants to talk about that topic. On the topic of community as well, a board is a community, a thread is not. A general is the culitmation of trying to put a community into a thread. Generals are something that turn a board from a community into a bunch of different threads about different topics who never interact with each other. There is also a difference between etiquette and generals which are a cultural requirement. Etiquette isn't required to be followed and is something that can be bent when following.
> not just make a hundred threads to talk about every single aspect of that
Wow anon. Congrats! That's how threads on fucking 4chan work. You make a thread about some aspect of something and the conversation goes from there. 4chan isn't a fucking forum. OP isn't a fucking topic setter, only a conversation starter. You are trying to argue in favour of generals while disregarding basic shit that makes up 4chan. And when you are trying to defend generals, you do it by shitting on people who don't like them or bringing up what other threads do.
Everything else about your post is either no u or you saying no you're wrong without providing any reason fucking why,
>>550650
99% of anime are advertisment of LNs. Are you implying that all of them should be banned from /a/?
>>550657
Did I stutter?
>>550655
So in other words people should dictate how they want the conversion to flow and not get mad when somebody takes it or the board in a direction they don't like?
>>550655
>Generals are for the 30 people who live at them and sacrifice every other single person who wants to talk about that topic.
Fucking what.
>Generals are something that turn a board from a community into a bunch of different threads about different topics who never interact with each other.
But the willingness to do that varies from board to board. On /a/ for example, why would someone who watches this show about manly men give a single fuck about or want to interact with people from threads for this show about cute little girls? Some (if not most) boards promote isolated subcultures by default because that's what their subject is like by default. The existence of an official catalog makes this even easier to do.
>OP isn't a fucking topic setter, only a conversation starter.
Yes, a conversation starter for that topic in particular. People are still free to go off-topic whenever they want in any thread unless nazi mods are around.
>And when you are trying to defend generals, you do it by shitting on people who don't like them or bringing up what other threads do.
You're doing the same when your only examples of what makes a general bad are an exaggerated comic and an exaggerated post.
I still haven't seen any of you try to define exactly what makes a general and what distinguishes it from recurring threads about popular matters, by the way.
>>550683
I've had people tell me that them using the word general is the problem. I really don't understand it.
I want to go on /a/ and make a Mumei's Left Nipple Specific, no talking about the right nipple or Mumei as a whole, save that for the Mumei General. Only the left nipple, specifically.
This is well deserved. Stop making threads when you got nothing new to discuss. Wait for the spoilers to be translated, which is soon. LN should be allowed on /a/ if it had an anime so if that's the problem then the mod is just being retarded.
>>550693
the spoilers are being translated every few hours and posted in the threads, meanwhile the threads are discussing what was just translated.
If you're going to start pointing fingers at what has new content there are a lot worse /a/ threads
>>550683
>On /a/ for example, why would someone who watches this show about manly men give a single fuck about or want to interact with people from threads for this show about cute little girls?
Because that has never been what 4chan is like. A board is a community, you are forced to interact with every user of the board and that sort of shit was what always made this place fun. Isolating and containment is forum culture and doesn't belong here. I fucking hate /u/tards with their 'hetshit' tier posts and yaoifags, but I'm not going to ask to hugbox and have them removed from my sight. What are you, a fucking child? Grow up. Outside of the threads for your homoshit, you are going to be forced to interact with everyone you hate. Why should that be any different in the homothreads? People you hate are going to use them as well. You don't get to run away and the climate of 4chan has always forced you to interact with every type of person. There is no reason for that to change other than people being little bitches with hurt feelings. If there is someone in there you don't like, either grow the fuck up and just ignore them or do what others do and piss them off because its funny. You don't get a hugbox here. Such is the life of web2.0fag.
>Yes, a conversation starter for that topic in particular
No, he is just a conversation starter. Nothing more. He started a conversation with a specific topic, where it goes depends on who is in the thread. A good way to put 4chan threads is that its a friend group sitting at a bunch of tables connected together. Someone starts the conversation and everyone goes from that. You aren't limited to the OP, but, people just generally do so because they want to talk about it.
The post wasn't even exaggerated, it highlighted key differences between the two things and I'd personally say the image is an understatement.
>>550683
>define difference
>recurring thread
>someone makes it out of nowhere because he has something to say and people see it with interest and talk
>thread moves organically, it has different people in it everytime most of the time and then ends when people have nothing else to say normally without the thread hitting bump limit which only exist to prevent never ending thread its not a requirement
>general
>not organic
>always up
>made and then when it ends people make another straight away or after a few hours
>arent made to actually discuss anything they are made just because x has to be up so that people "might" discuss it
>always the same people
>even when there is nothing to discuss it exists because these people have autism and have nothing better to do then bump threads for discussion that gain "might" happen
>if there is no discussion instead of just letting the thread die it gets bumped with forced discussion that probably will create nothing so theyll image dump instead
Obviously, this isn't always literal. But, the key difference between a recurring thread and a general is that one is organic and made by someone because they have something to say and want to discuss something. The other just exist, generally for the sake of it and on the off chance discussion might happen instead of just fucking letting the thread die and wanting until you have something to discuss or something to say. There is a reason generals get compared to forums. The concept is the same and the concept culturally and mechanically does not belong on 4chan.
Fuck captcha.
>>550706
Way to completely ignore the given example. The fanbases for both shows mentioned are usually pretty different, and while it isn't rare for one of them to show up in the other's thread to call everyone a faggot, most of the time they just keep to themselves talking about the kind of shows they enjoy with like-minded people. Expand this example a bit and you'll get people talking about different kinds of games, music, sports, and so on. Every thread for every single subject, or even every set of related subjects, can be considered a thread for talking about those things in "general". Every thread can be considered a "general". Even if "generals" didn't exist, nobody would be forced to interact with the rest of the board if they were in a thread about something they have interest in.
And, obviously, people inside a /vg/-style general are never united either, there's always plenty of things to talk about in the topic for that general and plenty of opinions to have.
>If there is someone in there you don't like, either grow the fuck up and just ignore them or do what others do and piss them off because its funny. You don't get a hugbox here.
And that's exactly what happens in generals as well. Just because they talk about one topic in GENERAL doesn't mean they aren't allowed to have different opinions.
Is this needs mod still at it? And where the fuck is Hiro at?
>>550884
He's probably asleep. If he starts it up again tonight, we should make a new thread her about it
>mods already given up enforcing the new rules
This is why nobody likes you faggots, you try and do something, there's backlash and you just give up. Now all the users think you're bitchboys that can be pushed around and only remember when you pissed them off and gave up.
>>551045
There was never a new rule to begin with.
Just some mod who went on a rampage.
>>551045
Wait the mod seriously fucking gave up?
>>551438
>Overlord thread on /a/, including LN discussion
>none on /jp/
Sure looks like it
>>551455
>none on /jp/
You really love spouting bullshit huh?
>>>/jp/15332711
>>551472
>ctrl F Overlord
>no results
Sorry senpai, I dont browse /jp/ often so I missed it there.
>>551481
The fucking 12 year old who made the thread titled it weird.
