Remove flags from /pol/.
>>534620
It would be nice to go back to the custom flags that moot had made especially for /pol/.
I agree, flags do nothing but encourage shitposting and off-topic discussion
>"I could counter your well presented argument but since you have an indian flag I'll just say POO IN LOO"
>>534623
Still don't understand why they actually changed those. Especially since it's so easy to fake flags.
>>534734
Do I have to remind you again?
Do you still not learn after your month-long ban?
>>534620
Nah. Heard all the reasons why and nah. It's funnier this way. 4chan is a website about being funny.
>>534880
What's funny about it?
>>534620
bring back the optional flags
>>534734
POO
IN
>>534895
Haha exactly.
>>534620
THIS
I'm so fucking sick of it, it's LITERALLY /b/ 2.0
/int/ is horrible but at least there's no topic there
flags turned /pol/ into a shithole
before flags
>make a thread
>have a discussion
>people try to be rational
after flags
>make a thread
>people don't reply to others, at most they reply to Candains, Aussies and Poo in Loos
>whenever an argument comes up, someone posts ">flag" and all discussion screeches to a halt
AND THOSE FUCKING ANNOYING RAREFLAG POSTERS FUCKING MAKE MY BLOOD BOIL
>>535618
Are you a Bernie supporter anon?
>>535654
Of course not. I'd probably skip the vote if I was murrican.
>>535657
Well that explains a lot then
While /pol/ can be pretty stupid, they're right about Trump anon.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but a billionaire knows how to handle money. A bum who didn't have a stable job 'till 40 doesn't on the other hand
Socialism might sound noble, but then you realize you're not rewarding good behavior, but you're actually encouraging ghetto behavior since you get free stuff for simply existing
You should reward work and I'm all for that. Sure give benefits to people, but only working ones. You aren't entitled to free stuff from birth.
>>534620
Pajeet please
>>534734
I'm going to agree with you.
Flags are pointless and encourage attention whores.
Anyone can change their flag with a VPN.
I concur, IDs too. /pol/ lost a lot of its culture when IDs and flags were introduced.
>>535749
You mean reddit culture? /pol/'s quality significantly improved with the flags and IDs.
>>534623
Nah, those were shit.
>>535777
Those were good, and moot went through the effort to make them for /pol/ in the first place. They might as well be put to use on some board like [s4s] or /b/ if not /pol/.
>>535659
this, and crooked hillary is insanely corrupt, it would be extremely harmful to elect her, trump can't be bought as easily because he's already rich as fuck, he doesn't need a new ferrari when he could buy a dozen if he wanted to
>>535776
lol no.
Did moot ever mention why he added flags in the first place? What was his reasoning?
>>535896
I think it was one of many punishments for /pol/'s majority participation in gamergate
>>535901
I know, I meant why he added them for /sp/ and /int/.
Hey guys, I need some help with rare flags here.
First off, what is the flag that looks Nicaragua with darker blue colors?
Second, what's the flag with the black background and the green bridge-like structure?
Third, what the fucking hell is "Portoia"? Apparently it was posted once on /int/ in 2011 with Zalgo text before being deleted. But where did that weird-ass name and flag design come from?
>>534734
DESIGNATED
>>534620
Yes please, I want the custom flags back so much.
>>535903
/int/ was probably the point of the board
/sp/ has international sports so it's board relevant
>>537095
All those flags are troll flags except for Mayotte, Marshalls, Western Sahara, Bouvet Island, FST, NMI, USMOI, old Libya(unobtainable/defunct), Antarctica, (British Antarctic Territory is from the extra flags extension), FAMFAMFAM (famfamfam.com unobtainable of course).
If you want legit ultra rares try getting the elusive A1 and A2 flags, they default to some weird variant of the Andorra flag though.
Also why the fuck is Heard and McDonald Island not on that list?
It's one of the legendary impossible three (Bouvet Island, Heard and McDonald Islands, and Western Sahara).
t. /int/ flag pro
The minute those horrid flags are gone /pol/ will become worth lurking on once again
>>534734
detected
>>537768
I too was 12 at a point in my life
>>537904
POO IN LOO RAJESH PAJEET SINGH
>>535776
Yes ids and flags are reddit culture
>>537908
moron
>>537938
POO
IN
LOO
Why not make it optional?
>>534880
4chan used to be a website about being funny. Now it's a website about being hurtful. I find it sad that even the mods think that being edgy is the way of 4chan.
>>537936
2channel, world2ch and Futaba Channel had IDs long before 4chan and Reddit existed. IDs are as part of chan culture as anonymity. They are the counterbalance that prevents people from abusing anonymity, like samefagging. If you think samefagging isn't a problem, you're dead wrong. Samefagging can steer the conversation by creating the illusion of consensus where there is none.
>>537960
Doesn't matter. That is not pure anonymity and that's it. If someone gets baited by samefagging it's his problem for not being self decisive
>>537956
mods are from redd it so yes they do think that way
>>537974
The desire for "pure anonymity" and hostility to IDs is mainly a /b/ thing. That sort of culture grew out of the days of the Habbo raids when the entity of "Anonymous" came about. Before that, nobody cared that there were thread-wide user IDs. Only reason someone would care is because IDs prevent them from having their "truly epic lulz" from trolling and disrupting threads.
>>537956
>4chan used to be a website about being funny. Now it's a website about being hurtful.
4chan was always a website about being hurtful you fucking retarded fuckwit.
Fuck off back to Rajjit's /r/designatedporn subreddit you piece of shit
If they stayed in their own board I doubt many people would be against removing flags. But since the vast majority of your board is such toxic shit, we only see fit to cripple your posting quality. It's only fair.
>>537983
Stop resetting your router Pajeet, you're meant to shit on it.
>>537981
t. redditor who came to 4chan in 2016
>remove flags
>remove ids
>remove images
>remove text
>remove /pol/
>>535331
>before flags
>>make a thread
>>have a discussion
>>people try to be rational
This never happened.
>>538000
Yes it fucking did. I have been on 4chan since November 2014, and there was RATIONAL DISCUSSION. It was practically comparable to Reddit.
And just because I'm admitting I previously used Reddit, does NOT mean I am a Redditor now.
>>535659
You do realize actual socialism is about meritocracy? "To each according to his contribution" rather than "To some according to their labor and to others according to their wealth"
Free stuff entitlement socialism is an abomination. The only free thing should be higher education that leads to good careers to people who can make good use of it it rather than just those that can afford it.
If you have a fairly smart poor kid who could become a productive engineer to make America great, but can't afford college and can't get a full scholarship, that's wasted potential, productivity, and tax income if he becomes a burger flipper instead.
>>535860
He's spent a lifetime trying to get richer, and cutting deals to get richer. Of course he can be bought out. The fact that he has a big corporation, just like Cheney and Halliburton just makes it easier for him to launder dirty money. Trump has certainly gone out on many ventures that netted him relatively small amounts of money. His threshold for doing things for money isn't outrageously high.
>>538015
>You do realize actual socialism is about meritocracy? "To each according to his contribution" rather than "To some according to their labor and to others according to their wealth"
*Dips gebora*
Communism has NEVER been TRULY done
Free market rewarding hard work? Don't be silly with this free market stuff rewarding highly sought out skills like being technologically literate and knowing how to make a profit off of a product, that's just shitting on people.
If the system was fair, why are most rich people white? Clearly racism is at the center of this oppressive regime
>>538016
>Communism has NEVER been TRULY done
Socialism is not communism. Of course communism has never been done because communism is stupid and stateless and post scarcity.
>Free market rewarding hard work?
It rewards work. It also rewards people that already have money for no reason except they have money.
>Don't be silly with this free market stuff rewarding highly sought out skills like being technologically literate and knowing how to make a profit off of a product, that's just shitting on people.
It also rewards people who have enough money to fund these things, and gives them money for funding said things. The rich guy doesn't even have to do any work figuring out what to fund. He could just hire a hedge fund manager.
Also, there's such a thing as market socialism. Just because the USSR decided to go full retard central planning dictatorship mode doesn't mean markets are exclusive to capitalism. Not that I'm even advocating socialism.
>>538024
>Socialism is not communism
>>Free market rewarding hard work?
>It rewards work. It also rewards people that already have money for no reason except they have money.
Sure, maybe you have some kids spending their parent's money, but that's no different than welfare queens who take YOUR hard earned money and spend it on frivolous shit
Only in one scenario, the person earned their money, on the other they stole it from you
>It also rewards people who have enough money to fund these things, and gives them money for funding said things
People create jobs > Get paid money for creating jobs
Mind blowing
>The rich guy doesn't even have to do any work figuring out what to fund. He could just hire a hedge fund manager.
Someone has to do the thinking part. Look at all the lottery winners, they're probably all billionaires by now! Oh wait...
>Also, there's such a thing as market socialism
oxymoron
if you're being regulated by the government, you're not free
>>538026
>Socialism is not communism
So you have Lenin saying socialism is not communism right in your quote. And in the context of his quote, he was talking about why they had to go to socialism before communism. So there you have it, socialism is not communism. According to Lenin you need socialism before you can get to communism.
>Sure, maybe you have some kids spending their parent's money, but that's no different than welfare queens who take YOUR hard earned money and spend it on frivolous shit
I don't think you understand. The system is extremely rigged towards investors and rewarding investors, because everyone is so desperate for investment, that they're willing to have investors more money to invest with in order to get a shot at investment.
>Only in one scenario, the person earned their money, on the other they stole it from you
Earned implies work. Both of them want to rig the system to get money directed at them. I'm not advocating for welfare queens anyways.
>People create jobs > Get paid money for creating jobs
No, they get paid money for hiring a guy who creates jobs using the money.
>Someone has to do the thinking part.
Which is not necessarily the person who owns it. They only have to be smart enough to hire someone to manage their money.
> Look at all the lottery winners, they're probably all billionaires by now! Oh wait...
They're retards.
>if you're being regulated by the government, you're not free
>free
You do realize markets don't have to be completely "free" from government regulation to be markets, don't you? You realize most markets today are influenced by some form of regulation. Are you saying this isn't capitalism?
Are you using the term "free market" in the classical sense, or the modern libertarian sense? Maybe you should read a book, like Wealth of Nations some time.
>>538036
>So you have Lenin saying socialism is not communism right in your quote. And in the context of his quote, he was talking about why they had to go to socialism before communism. So there you have it, socialism is not communism. According to Lenin you need socialism before you can get to communism.
It's the same thing, only one without any money at all
>I don't think you understand. The system is extremely rigged towards investors and rewarding investors, because everyone is so desperate for investment, that they're willing to have investors more money to invest with in order to get a shot at investment.
Maybe because, I don't know, people with lots of money are essential to have a booming economy? Why does China and India get all that work done, but are still 3rd world shitholes? Because the work is imported, it didn't naturally occur in the ecosystem.
>Earned implies work. Both of them want to rig the system to get money directed at them. I'm not advocating for welfare queens anyways.
The money got there somehow, so at the very least 1 person in the family worked their ass off to get all that wealth. Again, lottery winners don't have their wealth forever
>No, they get paid money for hiring a guy who creates jobs using the money
So they created at least 1 (one, uno, ichi) high requirement job. How many did you create?
>Which is not necessarily the person who owns it. They only have to be smart enough to hire someone to manage their money.
Still has to hire someone. Plus they don't work for free, so pony up.
>They're retards.
precisely
>You do realize markets don't have to be completely "free" from government regulation to be markets, don't you? You realize most markets today are influenced by some form of regulation. Are you saying this isn't capitalism?
It isn't . Plus an environmental regulation is way different than being owned by the government.
>>538051
>It's the same thing, only one without any money at all
He's literally saying they are not the same thing.
>Maybe because, I don't know, people with lots of money are essential to have a booming economy?
Lots of money is essentially to having a booming economy. There's no evidence that having an investor with $100 billion adds to the economy more than 100,000 millionaires. In fact, market principles would seem to indicate there would be more competition therefore greater efficiency.
>Why does China and India get all that work done, but are still 3rd world shitholes? Because the work is imported, it didn't naturally occur in the ecosystem.
I've already stated that investment is important, you've added nothing new.
>The money got there somehow, so at the very least 1 person in the family worked their ass off to get all that wealth. Again, lottery winners don't have their wealth forever
Literally, Rothschilds.
>So they created at least 1 (one, uno, ichi) high requirement job. How many did you create?
But they didn't get paid the market rate for the labor of creating one high requirement job.
>Still has to hire someone. Plus they don't work for free, so pony up.
And the investor still isn't getting paid the market rate for the labor of selecting a hedge fund manger.
That's the problem, it's not affected by the market the same way.
>It isn't
Well then apparently according to you markets don't exist, or something.
>Plus an environmental regulation is way different than being owned by the government.
You do realize markets without government interference have all sorts of market distortions anyways. This has pretty much been documented since market economics was first written about. The question is if you philosophically believe government regulations can fix market distortions or if they add to them.
>>534620
No! You have to go back Paco
Build Wall
For those unfamiliar with Pajeet's anti-flag rampage:
https://desustorage.org/qa/search/text/flags%20pol/type/op/
https://desustorage.org/qa/search/text/flags%20int/type/op/
https://desustorage.org/qa/search/text/remove%20flags/type/op/
https://desustorage.org/qa/search/text/flags/type/op/start/2015-09-01/
He has been going at this for nearly EIGHT months now.
How does it feel, Pajeet?
How does it feel that eight months have passed and the mods shit on you like you shit on Ramanasthanajamanadan Avenue?
>>537999
>>537999
Flags in and on themselves aren't even that much of a problem, it's the fucking country-specific IP-based ones that are. They have nothing to do with the board and its supposed setting/topic yet got introduced out of the blue for no clear reason at some point, while the custom political/on-topic flags all got removed without any explanation as to why this was taking place.
It was fun as fuck back then to be posting under a flag denoting your prefered political allegiance and BTFOing your opponents posting under the opposite flag to it. Now all that is gone though and has been replaced by this nonsensical /int/-style shitposting which derails the whole point of the board. Old proper /pol/ pretty much died when those custom flags were replaced by the forced country ones
>>538114
>everyone who hates flags is a shitposter/shitperson
ebin bost
REMOVE THEM FROM /SP/ RIGHT NOW
THEY ADD NOTHING BUT /INT/ TIER (REDDIT) """BANTER"""
>>538918
>Pajeet is a frogposting Redditor
No wonder he's fighting for a safe space.
I don't like the identity politics of flags. Make them optional and/or bring back silly flags
>>538921
The only time flags make even a little sense on /sp/ is for very international sports events like FIFA world cup or olympics.
At any other time they should be disabled.
>>538994
Stop talking to yourself Pajeet
