What the fuck is up with the janitor deleting anthro-requests/images in the /co/ drawthread, when anthro caoon characters are a large part of /co/'s history.
And while we're talking about stupid shit. I haven't been to /d/ in years, but who the fuck thought it was a good idea to put up a rule banning western art, not to mention subjects that /d/ was made for in the first place?
First time in a /co/ drawthread? This shit has been happening for years now. The /co/ drawthread is the most moderated drawthread on 4chan and probably the most moderated thread on /co/. Other drawthread you can make NSFW requests but on /co/, you get your request deleted and probably banned as well. I think they even have a list of characters like Panda Delgado that they will delete on sight regardless of request.
>>491372
furries OUT.
NOW
>>491372
>What the fuck is up with the janitor deleting anthro-requests/images in the /co/ drawthread
>anthro-requests/images
Hmmm not sure
>>491386
You got a problem with Bugs Fuckin Bunny?
>>491384
Did something happen or is it just the result of the mod/jan being an asshat?
>>491401
Mostly the latter; it's really been blatant lately because half of the spam posts will be left alone while certain characters will be deleted on sight no matter what the request is.
You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
It's right there in the rules, fur fag
>>491372
Although I dislike the sudden and sporadic crackdowns /co/'s been having, this is one that I'm ok with.
>>491442
Yeah except it killed the one thing that's kept me on this shit site for so long.
/co/'s Hunger Games are dead and with them, I'll follow.
>>491404
>anthropomorphic ("furry")
In this context that must mean furry PORN, I can't imagine that I would get banned if I post an ordinary screenshot from a Disney cartoon.
>>491457
>/co/'s Hunger Games are dead and with them, I'll follow
>implying that they can even kill it anymore
If they had acted during the first 2 months maybe, but at this point, it's too late.
A mod is going to have to be on /co/ 24/7 every weekend for the rest of his life if he wants to keep them dead.
>>491404
Deleted/slapped with ban evasion for posting Regular Show characters.
I seen it with my own eyes.
>>491482
I hope his dedication to keeping the games down and deleting even remotely furry drawthread requests leads to him dying of malnutrition/getting burglarized and shot or something.
One of these days the dream will be realized.
>>491505
How long is the typical life span of a Mod?
Whoever is the mod on /co/ for the weekends really needs to be replaced with someone who actually knows the board culture
>>491467
You would thing that wouldn't you? Furry mean any slightly suggestive pic featuring animal characters even if said pic comes from actual footage of a show shown to kids.
>>491511
As long as the admin wants them to be a mod.
WTF? WHY DID OUR POSTS GET DELETED?
We were just having a conversation about how slow the drawthread was going.
>>491523
Eileen from Regular Show is the least suggestive furry in anything. Even Claire from Harvey Beaks is more cute..
>>491523
So you will be banned now?
>but who the fuck though it was a good idea to put up a rule banning western art
Moot when the made the rules of the board almost 13 years ago. Not his fault you retarded ignored it for years then got pissy when it was enforced.
>>491534
Hm alright so lets ban all nudity and offtopic on /a/ too then.
>>491372
Actually, it's worse. They are now deleting and banning all image.jpg and image.png posts seeing it as spam and/or ban evasion because of the "purrsday" and "false phoneposting" making the janitors think that I am one of the shitposters. I can no longer request from my phone due to this.
>>491384
Friend you don't fucking understand.
>>491401
Yes.
>>491404
Posting Heathcliff gets you 30 days for ban evasion.
Posting Hugh Neutron gets you 30 days for ban evasion.
Posting Joy gets you 30 days for ban evasion.
Posting Julia the autistic puppet from Sesame Street gets you a pat on the back.
In a single thread over 100 posts were deleted.
All posts referring to characters that have arbitrarily, with no rule-related reason, and without any communication warning that this character is bad news, end in deletion and bans or ban requests.
All posts referencing the deleted posts or even just the fact that posts are being deleted are deleted and given bans or ban requests.
As of yesterday, posting from phones is now guaranteed to get a 30 day ban.
I've been lurking in the /co/ drawthreads and that page listing recent bans since this whole thing started, and by the patterns of deletion and banning, both based on the actual content "what is being banned and deleted" and the inconsistency in when it happens; blatant spamming and furry posting can be ignored for several hours, then suddenly deleted and banned along with dozens of other posts that made note that there was a spam post, I believe that this is the work of a single janitor backed up by one or two inconsistent mods, not a new system of moderation thought up and endorsed and practiced by mods as a whole.
Sorry this post went on for so long and sorry if it seems so angry or whiny, but I wanted everything out in the air because I came to this board to ask you guys if it would be prudent or effective to contact the mods about this issue. The janitor and mod backing him up obviously do not care about the quality of the board or the rules of 4chan, and this whole ordeal doesn't look like it's going to blow over on it's own. Is this the place to contact mods with issues like this? Just post our issues here and hope they find it? Or should I use the 4chan feedback thing?
Any help would be appreciated.
>>491747
ahahahah brilliant. now if only they would do that on /tv/.
This is the worst janitor I've ever known on any board. Any image.file is deleted even if it's very obviously something that was just edited in paint. Anyone that mentions they're on a phone is banned. An ever-growing list of characters is making a kill list and they are all fully human and break no rules. A fifty post conversation regarding a big project for us to draw was just purged.
This mod/janitor started increasing his activity because of some recent truly awful shitposting but he's making these threads worse than the shitposts ever could
Here's the thing:
Lewd requests have been moved to /co/.
Lewd anthro requests have gone to /trash/, where it belongs.
But what about non-lewd anthro requests if the character in question is /co/-related?
What's even weirder here is that those request and deliveries are removed from the Drawthread only. If you go to a Prequel or Endtown thread you'll see a lot of anthro art with characters from those comics and no one bats an eye.
Maybe it's the problem with the Drawthread. Either the anons there are cancer, reporting everything and janitors delete stuff because it's the easiest way, just nip the thing in the bud.
Or there's a janitor that is overly watchful of the drawthread.
Considering how shit /co/ general drawthread has become lately (10 fold since the April Fools joke people apparently can't seem to let go) and how much stuff is deleted from it I wouldn't be surprised that it has more attention from the moderating staff. But could we please get some kind of compromise about non-perverted "furry" art if the characters are from /co/ media?
I know furries usually bring the drama, but drama arises from creating a community and discussion as well as making a persona of yourself and that is something that doesn't happen in /co/ at large. Maybe drawthreads are more exposed to it because drawfags put their names on, but in general they prefer to talk off-site.
They started a joke, they won with their joke. But they didn't know when to stop, now these are the consequences of their actions.
>>492052
>Posting Heathcliff gets you 30 days for ban evasion
>without any communication warning that this character is bad news
>>492078
I actually prefer the new rules given that /coc/ is now welcome. In the past two days the drawthreads have mostly been fine. Or at least they WOULD be fine if it wasn't for the janitor who is making such poor decisions that I'm almost inclined to believe he was one of the spammers in the first place and this is his special way of extending the drama.
And let's not forget janny deleting quite appropriate things like
http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=33162
and
http://the-collection.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=33164
Yes, I'm still salty about him deleting them. Since when are non-lewd women is suits wearing cat ears against the rules?
>>492078
Damn, I mean "lewd requests have been moved to /aco/".
>>492088
>In the past two days the drawthreads have mostly been fine
It was shitposting followed by shitposting with more shitposting and then a ban cascade.
Seriously, I get that Addy or whatever her name is was an April Fools joke. Now let go of it, she's not even that interesting. There are separate Weekend /co/ creation threads and OC Donut Steel threads, stick her in there.
Only shitposty drawfags draw her anyway.
Also gonna namefag here just to be more snooty about it. There's a reason I've been mostly drawing in the Infinity General on /tg/ lately.
>>492088
/coc/ was always welcome
>The janitor is one of the spammers and is increasing the drama
That would be an excellent plot twist
>>492082
Personal feelings on rule-breaking or borderline rulebreaking content, both yours and mine, are not relevant in this issue.
It's not a matter of spammers meeting banhammer justice or furries belonging in the trash, it's a janitor who makes up their own rules on how to moderate and follows every deletion with a request for ban evasion. This is a blatant disregard for proper moderation as well as the rules of 4chan, and possibly even an active attempt to destroy a well-loved /co/ tradition.
>>492096
>It was shitposting followed by shitposting with more shitposting and then a ban cascade.
Exactly, but they want that, they think they're being funny.
Since we're on the topic of power-tripping mods/janitors and /co/, I haven't seen a single thread for that Hunger Games whatever since last week.
Did they finally kill it off?
>>492104
It went to /trash/
>>492102
Yeah and if you say anything at all they go "U mad about drawings? hurr durr have fun"
>>492107
Really? I'm looking through /trash/'s catalog and all I see are those avatarfag games.
So they're dead. Great, there goes my weekend.
>>492096
I've no idea why some people don't grasp that others find her genuinely fun to draw. I think she's interesting because her design keeps shifting over time and some funny jokes have come out of it
>calling Dabble a shitposting drawfag
The Donut Steel and /coc/ threads receive little attention. But I don't want to get into again because this discussion has already been exhausted and it doesn't belong on /qa/. I'll just say there's no good reason to exclude OC other than personal preference. It's unfortunate that extreme shitposters had to immediately run the first popular OC into the ground.
>>492109
That's the worst part, but alas.
What we can do.
Can someone explain what is wrong with phoneposting? I genuinely don't understand.
>>492117
It's a meme, you dip.
>>492117
Nothing at all. But your dear friend shitposted wanted to use it to spam their shitty jokes. So no it's being banned.
>>492115
>first popular OC
Where did Golden Girl come from?
>>492115
>there's no good reason to exclude OC
There is a great reason: not from /co/ media.
If you want OCs being drawn, you should go to deviantART.
>>492122
She's part of the /coc/, since last year if memory serves me right
>>492115
You find her fun to draw, but tell me and i'm not being rude, just wondering, why aren't you drawing her for yourself? or for those that find her funny.
>>492122
Not in /co/ history, just in the context of what's been happening recently.
>>492117
Some shitposters (might have) used their phones. A lot of image.jpg was posted. Then people began joking about image.jpg and (presumably) fake phoneposting with "image" filenames. Now being on a cellular device or mentioning one gets you annihilated
>>492140
They even was discussing how they were going to shitpost about "phoneposting" the thread before they started
>>492126
This is actually wrong. "Western cartoon origin" refers to the art style and not the medium (this is why Donut Steel threads are even allowed). This was explained by someone in an absurdly autistic pastebin but I don't have the link for it.
>>492128
Did I say I could personally draw? I'm a requester but I've heard from others that they enjoy drawing her.
>>492145
>"Western cartoon origin" refers to the art style and not the medium
Okay, that is some /a/-tier bullshit.
A thing either is from a cartoon or a comic or it isn't. Avatar is very far removed from typical "western cartoon artstyle" of it's time, leaning more towards animesque and yet is certainly /co/, same with Totally Spies.
Cartoons are extremely diverse and it's hard to pinpoint a generic "cartoon artstyle" in the first place. Closest you'd get would probably be something roughly Looney Tunes-style.
Also OCs is exactly the kind of cancer you wouldn't want furries to bring. It's not that far removed from fursona. The no-OC rule is what protects the Drawthread from those.
>>492166
>The no-OC rule is what protects the Drawthread from those.
That was solved on the first day and everyone agreed with keeping those away.
>>492166
Avatar's produced in the West. "Western origin" obviously doesn't only refer to the art style but I was referring to the context of OCs in particular. There's no one specific Western style but it's very easy to label something as an anime style so one would generally start with things that don't look like anime.
Your latter point is mostly personal preference. I can single out many requests in the drawthread that I'd label as cancerous already. The rules established in the new OP also disallow particularly bad or lazy OCs. In practice, I've seen only mild requests for good looking OCs not counting Adelaide or something overtly ironic and poking fun at the rule.
/co/ has the most retarded janitors out of any board.
>>492171
Exactly as the posters it seems.
TWEET HIRO
>>492177
Honestly it is why we are in this mess.
So many shitpost out control.
>>492180
It's kind of funny that lately Drawthreads are at their most civil at Caturdays.
>>492182
The only drama is for those who cant stop mentioning the janitor. Otherwise everything is nice, I hope it lasts.
>>492178
HOW?
>>492193
https://twitter.com/hiroyuki_ni
>>492194
That is interesting.
>>492195
i thought this was common knowledge
>>492194
How do we plea for help?
>>492202
Tell him that /co/ drawthread seems to be unfairly moderated which fuels people to shitpost more in rebellion. Maybe work out a once a week Caturday privilege.
>>492202
You can't, your argument would have so little sense for him, it would be so uninteresting - that probably you will get a ban from the man himself, for making him wasting his time with your complaint.
>>492206
Excuse me, your Autism is showing
>>492206
>>492208
>Sneaking in a Caturday privilege
Yeah, if we ever compose any message to directly send to the moderation, in Twitter or in feedback or even in this thread, we should be careful with what we ask for and not get ahead of ourselves.
Whether you want the April Fools OC banned forever or allowed shouldn't be conveyed to mods. The complaints with the janitor are valid and warrant mod attention. Anything beyond that is just whining or trying to get something out of this mess, and may very well cause mods to just ignore it altogether.
>Those imgur links
Surely there is a better, less likely to end in mass bans, more likely to get other mods on our side, way to go about this.
>>492225
Mass deletions or mass one-day bans?
>>491372
And yet, and YET, this guy allows a Legion of Doom RP thread.
Well done, well done. the most infamously banned thread on /co/ is back and allowed once more thanks to the worst mod in a long time.
>>492350
That is the curse of Adelaide. Nothing we can do.
What's the deal with /co/, anyway? I always see the people there talking about how they're one of the best boards when in reality all of their threads suck and they have bitch janitors who delete anything that's remotely hostile or vulgar.
>>492364
Clearly you are too hostile and vulgar for the best secret club.
>>492373
Clearly.
>>492184
This is somewhat like saying that the only reason someone is getting kicked in the nuts is because they complain when they're punched in the stomach. Wiping any request made from a phone is not acceptable. Wiping any conversation that you personally find to be in bad taste is not acceptable. Banning someone for delivering a drawing? What the FUCK? How would you like it if you made a delivery and got kicked for 30 days (which has happened to more than just Adelaide)? Not only this, but the content that is being purged is wholly inconsistent. Nonsensical flame bait is left untouched, usually if it praises the janitor or calls a certain drawfag a virgin. Any post that otherwise acknowledges what's going on or says that this is maybe not okay, even if it's level-headed, is destroyed. Even if your posts haven't personally been touched by the janitor it should be very clear from viewing the deleted content that this needs to stop. Anons are NOT in the wrong here and they shouldn't turn a blind eye to this. Rule abiding requests and deliveries are getting deleted in a drawthread for Christ's sakes.
>>492356
Very funny joke but I'd like to remind you that the shitposters did more than just spam Adelaide.
>>492380
You started this, now it's time to face the consequences.
>>492380
The curse had developed beyond Adelaide, to the point, it doesn't involve her anymore. This caused the shitposters to evolve to no longer depend on a host, as they can now create their own.
>>492396
I don't defend anything or anyone, but it was our stupidity that led us to this situation. We had a whole day to shitposting, and it was great. after that we should have stopped, but no, and we are now paying the consequences.
I'm one of the people that got hit with a ban from the recent events. Thankfully it was for "spamming" and not "ban evasion" so I only took a vacation for a few days.
>>492184
I mean this is true in a way but how do you expect anons to not bring the janitor up with what's being deleted? It's completely asinine. Would you rather they took it lying down and allowed him to purge any and all content he doesn't approve of? He has always been somewhat of an annoyance in these threads but as of late he has been going berserk. I'm guessing that you haven't felt his wrath yourself so you don't have much to feel sore about but there are people that have done literally nothing wrong being slapped for up to a month. This includes drawfags whose only crime was posting a delivery.
>>492413
>>492160
Yeah. It's embarrassing how easy this is to spot.
>anons start to complain about/discuss the deletions
>someone posts "well people were breaking the rules next to you so OF COURSE you all should suffer indiscriminately you idiots"
>others point out why this is stupid
>eventually a wall of text rant is made that's mostly expletives and calling everyone in the thread a retard
>this is never deleted
>meanwhile responses that say "this is kind of wrong and here's why" are wiped clean even when they contain no cursing or insults
>>492160
Alright cut the shit, you're the faggot responsible for spamming the threads with the Callie requests and evading constantly like the faggot you are.
>>492427
Really? that fucker was playing with us all this time!?
>>492427
Even though this can't be proven one way or another, it doesn't make what he says invalid. The janitor has always policed the drawthread according to his tastes and nothing else. Recently it has escalated to the point where it can't really be ignored.
I also think it's interesting that the posts I quoted were deleted. I sure hope people don't start being purged for raising issues in this thread...
>>492434
>>492427
>>492436
The super twist, he's the new janitor!!
>>492438
Make them fight each other, make them fight the janitor, make them fight those who don't want to fight, fight yourself.
YIFF IN HELL FURFAGS
is it a crime if i want to draw someone's anthro related request?
i dont mean to be picky
but characters from that gumball cartoon are fairly easy to draw so i pick those for practice
this has not been a fun week for the drawthread. this janitor is out of control. he did a good job containing shit posts but now he goes too far. one of my favorite drawfag is maybe gone forever because of this. fun and board safe requests are deleted. waifus that he hates are deleted, apparently Jimmy Neutrons that he hates are deleted. deleting the cats for years was stupid and autism. this simply unforgivable.
>>492413
>>492160
>people call janitor dumb for deletion
>are deleted
hehehe he has followed us here.
>>492462
read the thread, it no longer furfags. its everyone.
>>492467
So you only complaining now because the mods are attacking non-furfag requests.
>Several posts critical of the janitor are deleted.
>Things in defense of them left untouched.
Wow. I'm sure they'll claim it was all the same person or something like that but none of the deleted posts read that way.
>>492474
Not him but people have learned to accept and live with the anthro deletions. Contentions have been raised but nothing ever came of them. /co/ is honestly kind of used to being under this mod's boot. But now that he has branched out his shitlist, far too many people are feeling the consequences. All of the recent threads read like a jumbled mess. I'm glad that more anons have received a wake up call from this.
>>492476
that is exactly what the current banned page shows. I'm guess the spammer made this thread
>>491442
The sudden and sporadic part makes me think a big part of it is because they're getting replaced and don't like the idea of being able to troll people any more.
>>492482
It shows the last one was for ban evasion but not the others. Again, they don't read like they were written by the same person.
Though ban evasion is kind of an iffy proposition because we don't even know if the original ban was justified. It doesn't look like it'd take much.
>>492482
...You do realize that people have already explained that the "ban evasion" bans are mostly handed out falsely, correct? How far are you going to go in calling those that think this is unfair a samefag?
The biggest joke here is that this thread is out of that faggot janitor's jurisdiction, and he definitely knows about this thread; so he's just sitting there getting mad, and he can't do shit about it.
If you're reading this janitor, I was one of the guys who had originally supported you deleting spam. But then you started handing out ban evasions and somehow I got one for no reason, along with other people uninvolved.
Not only that you started deleting shit that doesn't break the rules at all.
You're a faggot.
If anyone cares at all, I'm the guy who made that huge assblasted rant that was left up by the janitor.
I am currently banned for ban evasion.
>>492501
btw I'm using public wifi.
Hence how I'm able to post right now and didn't post earlier.
>>492501
Rest in fucking pepperoni
>>492497
Don't play innocent
>>492507
Guilty or not, he's 100% correct. I've seen several drawfags get the boot for a delivery that follows the rules. There are enough testimonies in this thread that have gone untouched to prove his claims.
>>492510
How does that even work? The janitor claims it's somebody evading a ban and the Mod just goes with it rather than actually looking into whether or nor its true?
Looking at the Bans page, I can buy that though since there's a ton of them and they're almost all /co/ and drawthread/janitor related.
>>492510
Your original ban(s) were for, again, spamming Callie requests and flooding the thread. Don't play innocent
>>492515
Would you like to tell that to every last person that has received a ban?
>>492514
mods can see ips and do bans
>>492514
janitors can't ban people
>>492515
How do you know this unless you're a member of staff, and even then how can you claim it's true if many anons in this thread have reported a false ban for evasion?
>>492521
I'm sure some are indeed legit claims, but the majority of people claiming to be "falsely banned for evasion" are blowing it out of their ass. Regardless, it would be better to go through the proper channels to get a false ban appealed, like the official IRC channel.
>>492526
Except they're not because I've seen it happen to different drawfags. Even the ones who aren't being banned are being deleted or blocked for nothing. Threads are being ruined and requests not to mention LENGTHY discussions that do not deserve it are being deleted. You also still did not answer how you know what an anon has supposedly done specifically
>Just appeal the ban
This doesn't fix the root issue at all. The drawthread has always been poorly moderated by a tyrant
>>492526
Since you seem to be fairly confident as to what is and isn't true here, I'd like to ask you if you sincerely believe that every last deleted post in here belongs to the same person. I can see it with a few of the posts (one Anon even admitted to it) but not all of them, especially not the ones that happened a while ago.
/co/ mods have always been shit
paranoia over furries in 2016 is fucking Goon-tier autism. At this point anti-furry retards are way more annoying than furries, and not nearly as self-aware
>>492526
>IRC channel.
HAHAHAHAHA
If you go to the IRC channel and try to appeal a ban you get banned from IRC. Instantly.
why do you think everyone evades?
>>492140
>Being on a cellular device or mentioning one gets you banned
Weird. I mentioned being on one while delivering a request and they didn't ban me. Is it because I didn't have any spamfus in my pic or am I lucky? I already posted 3 deliveries and mod did not ban me yet
I got banned for my post on the mass ban drawthread, for mentioning a deletion of my request Danny Phantom to be drawn in a silly manner
>>492546
It seems to be inconsistent. It usually happens in quick bursts when the janitor is lurking.
So is it safe to discuss the janitor's wacky antics here? Does he or his mod lackey have any jurisdiction here?
Technically complaining about the moderation is grounds for mod intervention. I hope that if we get a mod to notice this thread they will understand that we are not criticizing the moderation, but a clearly rogue individual or very small group.
I can honestly say that in all my time on /co/ I have never had any real issues or complaints with any of the moderation. I respect the mods and wish them best in their dealing with this, and hope that they understand the situation.
>>>/co/81653752
>>81653545
>Garnet mistaking Spiral for a fusion.
So why was this deleted?
I just made a request and this post was greyed out.
>>492549
>they will understand that we are not criticizing the moderation
But we should criticize the moderation. Things never should have gotten to this point. The mods here have too much power and nobody to answer to. Hiro needs to get rid of all of them and bring in new ones. I'd rather the 2ch mods take over than moot's crop of retards
>>492553
The janitor wasn't a fan of the request. That's basically how he picks and chooses things from the way threads have gone the past several days.
>/d/ - Hentai/Alternative
>hentai = Japanese anime pornography
>Japan = Eastern nation
OP, fucking kill yourself.
I just entered these thread but this is pretty flapping ridiculous. Request and discussion gone left and right
I smell damage control in some of these posts!
>>492526
I was actually banned for ban evasion. My post was made without any current ban and from the same IP, device, browser, etc. I had been using all along, of fucking course, and the post itself was actually a warning to another anon who who wanted a second drawthread to avoid the janitor with that he should not actively attempt to outsmart the janitor or moderation.
I actually did go through the steps to getting a false ban removed; the IRC was very helpful. I PM'd a mod's account, an hour later they responded to me, and they got it removed within a half hour.
I'd strongly recommend going through the rule-abiding, official route in dealing with your false bans. Not only will multiple requests for the repeal of the same false ban from the same thread raise mod awareness of the issue if this thread doesn't, but evading bans is only making things worse. Not only has it given the janitor the bright idea to ban phones, but it actually helps him build his case if any mod takes action against him. Same goes for spammers, of course. Every blatant spam post you feed him to delete is another blatant spam post he can point to as justification.
If there's any kind of confrontation or punishment for him, he has a shit ton of ban evaders to point to as actual, genuine rule-breakers in the drawthreads that warrant increased moderation. Mods will eventually find this thread, they will eventually do something about the janitor, and when that time comes we need to be sure we haven't given him an inch of validity to stand on.
And again, at the risk of sounding like I'm kissing ass, I also want to make it very clear that I mean no disrespect for the moderation. As I expressed with my summary of the IRC, they have, in my experience, been nothing but helpful, reasonable and understanding, and I hope that they will continue to do so and help us out with this.
>>492560
You don't understand, this guy is bad news.
>>492560
>/d/ - Hentai/Alternative
>Hentai AND Alternative
/d/ has had Western Art for ten years, retard.
>>492570
western is banned on /d/
it got moved to /aco/
>Someone just arrived in the drawthread for their first time since this all started.
>They are actively questioning why so many posts are being deleted.
>I am actually too afraid of being banned to warn him to stop.
What has this janitor done to me. Regardless of what happens to him or the drawthread, I can't help but feel he has already won-if not against the drawthreads, then, at least, that he has already beaten me.
>>492567
I somewhat agree with what you're saying, but a few evaders should not validate what is happening here. This janitor is using barely any discretion or judgement in his deletions. I've seen posts with non-phone filenames deleted. I've seen deliveries deleted. I've seen discussion regarding large-scale requests deleted. Not to mention that this is very likely the same person that has been removing requests that are even the slightest bit anthro for years.
>>492570
>slash = and
Holy fucking shit you are stupid. YOU ARE ACTUALLY THIS STUPID.
Hentai/alternative is ALTERNATIVE HENTAI.
>>492573
I know that, idiot. And it was fucking stupid, because now everyone on /aco/ complains about /d/ and most of /co/ just posts cheesecake and what SHOULD go on /aco/ on /co/
>>492583
only place I see complaining on /aco/ is that diaper thread, its calmed down a bunch
>>492579
And yet the board housed Western Art comfortably for almost a decade until the mods decided to try and sabotage /aco/
>>492586
The past doesn't fucking matter anymore, only the part where it's for alternative hentai only. Try arguing with somebody whose IQ isn't 176
>>492585
Most people gave up because the mods did what they always do and hid behind their wall of silence. Most threads either died off or have two seperate threads, and both /d/ and /aco/ fetish threads have art from both the east and west. It's a complete clusterfuck but until these bastards are thrown out on their asses this whole site will keep going to hell.
also there's a whole slew of deletions that just happened again over on /co/
>What I am interested in is that has a janitor ever been justified in this behavior before? Regardless of who is spamming or whatever? I do not hear of this degree of lack of foresight + personal bias often
I don't quite understand why this got deleted (it may have been Anon himself trying to stir trouble) so I am tentatively reposting.
>>492592
>The past doesn't fucking matter anymore
like the past of having a functioning drawthread?
The mods do this shit all the time. They kill boards and threads left and right on a whim and they don't ever have to answer to anyone. Those fucks deserve to die.
I don't go to /co/ very often so I had to check several desu storage threads to understand what's going on here. I'm stunned.
First I'll say I agree with most anons here that this is ridiculous. Don't want to waste time sounding like a broken record. There is definitely at least one spammer that evaded in these threads but it is easy to spot the shitty bait posts from the decent requests let alone some of the other things that got deleted.
Second I will say that this mod's activity seems to have slowed down right as this thread began to blow up. He realizes that he went too far for sure. I think even if he never deletes a post again that he should have to answer for the recent mess especially since his antics are apparently not limited to this incident.
Third it is weird to see what had been deleted ITT. Some admit to evading and are not deleted while others are. But I did notice that muchh of the wiped content seemed like their first post in the thread. Not to sound like a conspiracy nut but maybe these were removed to decrease the unique post count and make it seem as though the issue is not that severe. Maybe just a crackpot theory but that's my two cents,
wew that banned page
>>492659
wait what banned page
>>492663
http://www.4chan.org/bans
Page of recent bans. No archive as far as I know. And not a complete list, a lot of recent bans not listed.
Worst part is that this isn't much worse than it usually has been.
>>492659
I really, sincerely hope that the mods who handle appeals or the IRC get some kind of memo or notice this shit themselves so they understand that 90% of /co/ ban evasions this week are completely false. It really makes me sad to know how many people are getting kicked out for a month, especially the ones that only showed up on /co/ for weekends or whatever and would have no way of knowing the situation like >>>/co/81655119. Guy walked into thread, asked why Jimmy Neutron was getting deleted, and was given 30 days ban for "ban evasion". It's fucking disgusting that this has been going on for so long.
You can't even argue that it's for encouraging spam or garbage outside /b/ or anything arguably valid like that; that's not a 1 or 3 day ban, that's a whole month, a length intended for a completely different rule.
How often do mods check this board? Is it more effective to send them feedback on the feedback page? And is there anything we can say or do that could improve falsely banned users' chances of getting an appeal?
At this point I'm also still really worried about mods reading this thread wrong and getting us in trouble for complaining. Have mods done this in the past? Has anything like this situation ever occurred in the past? I've always tried to stay out of moderation drama like this, so sorry if I'm being new or anything.
Sup, I found this thread through the drawthread.
>>492659
Something is quite wrong when the majority of the whole site's bans are for /co/. Even if a good chunk of these are an actual ban evader there are too many innocents caught in the crossfire. And then there are the posts that are simply deleted which makes the thread beyond annoying and prevents drawfriends from ever seeing many of the requests or having even smidge of fun. I see a 40+ post conversation between at least four people wiped out last thread. You cannot tell me that was one ban evader.
>>492659
Looking at the drawthreads in the archive over the past few days and this thread, it has been suggested more than once that this is an extendes temper tantrum due to the impending switch in janitors. After seeing that list, that seems a fairly good bet.
>>492706
Also, why couldn't a mod have simply commented by now if it were only one easy to spot evader being banned? I think it's because they know that normal posters have also been punished. Not only that but this is someone with a history of deleting content at their whim. Putting a concrete identity to these actions will do nothing but reaffirm the fact that they should not have done this or really anything they've ever done to the drawthreads..This entire situation feels beyond clumsy and like they have never once given a fuck.
>>492728
Contact Hiro
>>492728
>maybe this is a gaggle of extreme autists
That's exactly what it is. People talk about the banning like that shit happened out of the blue and there wasn't a bunch of guys shitposting in the thread hard about some OC waifu since April 1 forcing to threads to hit the bump limit in a few hours. Hell, they are still doing it because they can ban evade constantly while others can't or won't and those are usually the drawfags who come there to draw ifn the first place.
>492744 #
The gaggle he was referring to is a potential group of mods, I believe.
Almost all of us are aware of what led up to this (and in fact address it in our posts) and we still do not find this moderation acceptable. Actually, it was always a problem, just not to this degree. The flooding also ceased after the attempts to spam Callie. But even if we were being hit with the same degree of Callie spam to this day it wouldn't excuse what else has been deleted. The staff on other boards don't deal with spam by banning unrelated bystanders, or at least I damn sure hope they don't.
>>492140
What does "image.jpg" have to do with phones? Is it related to iOS or something?
>>492829
Yes, all iPhones for some stupid reason bind the filename "image.jpg" to all uploaded images. It's unchangable as far as I know.
>>492364
I think some people there must actually like it. /co/mblr isn't just a joke.
>>492728
>does anyone have ideas on how to send fucking help?
Go to the IRC.
You need to make an account, which includes registering with an email, and make sure it's one you actually have access to, because it will send a security code to it. Then join 4chan's chat and click on a mod's name in the current users list next to the active chat, select "query", and attempt to appeal your ban.
Or if you can wait the 3 days for an appeal to be made available to "ban evaders", you could try that.
I don't want to be called out for spamming this thread or aiding phone posters or anything, so I'm afraid I'll have to stop here. If you have any more questions, check out the "Banishment" section of the FAQ or the Rizon forums.
Hope this helps, and thank you very much for not wanting to "fight dickery with dickery". Ban evaders only make this worse for everyone involved, and I'm glad to see your trying to get help while staying above that.
Ok, let's play a game.
Find the posts that were deleted for no reason.
Just keep in mind that is is possible for people to delete their own posts.
https://desustorage.org/co/search/deleted/deleted/
>>492866
It's over anon. The janitor calmed down.
>>492842
He won't go to the IRC because he knows exactly why he's getting banned over and over and over again
>>492974
Doubt it. They either realize that people are actually paying attention and need to lie low or, more likely, just haven't been on as much.
Sunday and weekday drawthreads are always more quiet than Saturday and Friday evening drawthreads even with many of the same requests.
>>493151
>cripplechan
Ayy
killyerself
>>493192
Oh shit, it's true.
>>491385
>2016
>still being so emotionally stunted that you lose your shit over people liking something that doesn't even effect you indirectly.
lmao yiffbags BTFO
MODS = GODS
>>492987
First of all, I wouldn't keep making these kind of statements so confidently. It's basically the same as saying "Hello yes I'm a member of the staff" which is not good whether you are or aren't.
Second, these deletions are becoming so perplexing to me that I tried to track down the person in question this time. It looks like it's the same anon that made these posts: >>>/co/81659630 >>>/co/81659653
They were made at almost the same time and they have the same low caps posting style. Note that all of his posts have not been wiped, which means that he most likely didn't receive a 30 day ban for evading. So why was he deleted from this thread? Or was he given a ban based on his opinion ITT alone?
Despite the fact that this janitor seems to have settled down, I personally don't think that excuses what happened this weekend, not to mention his moderating style in the drawthread over the past few years. And despite some people's insistence that it's all one evader, no moderator has come to tell us this officially to dispel our concerns. I would like to hear straight from the horse's mouth how this moderation is acceptable.
>>491404
the furry part of that rule needs to be removed, it's way too vague to be useful, and just leads to bad moderating/janitoring like what's currently plaguing /co/
>>492425
It's almost like being able to be banned for mentioning the moderation was put in place so shit moderation can never be called out
>>492544
>anti-furry retards are way more annoying than furries
I agree with you fellow Furrynonymous.
>>491404
>i like vague rules that can be used to fulfill personal agendas
>>492364
>all of their threads suck and they have bitch janitors who delete anything that's remotely hostile or vulgar
That's part of why /co/ thinks their shitty board is so awesome. Because they're "nice."
>>493914
Its bullshit really. The thing that gets me the most pissed off is when they give you a global ban for stupid shit like responding to a shitposter. Ban me from that specific board you fucktards.
Resetting my router is annoying as fuck.
I mean i wait out my totally just ban like a good cuck :^)
Bumping dis
Is it over? Drawthread seems normal today. Hardly anyone's mentioning what we've been through last week, but those few that did have yet to be slapped with a ban evasion.
>>494169
Anyway, that's just the current state of things.
Not trying to argue with you or say we should delete this thread or let it die; this could very easily just be the one day the janitor is busy with something else. Things could go to shit again soon without warning. Maybe it is best to keep this thread up a while longer, just in case.
>>494179
Hardly anyone in the drawthreads mentions it because they've learned better. It usually nets you a warning at the very least. I'm sure there are others that would except they're banned.
This thread should absolutely be kept up regardless of this mod's current activity or lack thereof. They shouldn't be let off the hook just because they've stopped for now because they've always done whatever they wanted to the drawthread. Not only that, but they're messing with other parts of /co/ too (there's another /qa/ thread on this).
Just dropping it and letting these threads die will do exactly one thing: allow this member or members of the staff to take a huge dump on us again.
>>494194
>Other thread
Link?
And I didn't know they had started deleting and banning people in other threads, thanks for the warning.
>>494200
Alright, thanks.
Hopefully one of these threads gets noticed.
Why not just use /ic/?
>>494538
1. It's /co/ related.
2. Do you know what a drawthread is?
>>494544
Yes I do. Drawthreads are also /ic/ related, as you are posting artwork that you have done. If your threads are being deleted, then go somewhere else, such as a board that will allow them, because you are not tied to one board.
>>494538
Everyone on the /co/ Drawthread should go to /ic/?
What?
>>494544
>2. Do you know what a drawthread is?
Against the rules? Yes, I know that.
>>494547
>/co/ drawthread
>Against the rules
You're just embarrassing all of us at this point, son.
>>494547
>something is against the rules (if you say so)
>it's never mattered until someone could use it to get rid of stuff they dont like
>this is ok
wew
/d/ is a god damn wasteland with only the most closeted homosexuals and their 30 fuckillion gay-ass futa threads.
>>494545
That's pretty inane. Every moderately active board has a related 24/7 drawthread. None of them are being forced to consider leaving their home board because of anything like this.
While you're at it, would you like to tell this to the fans of Nick shows and any cartoons containing animal ears?
>>494552
>forced to consider leaving their home board
What are you talking about? I just told you that you aren't tied to one board, why are you pretending that you can't post on /co/ at all? Just take the drawfag threads to a drawfag board. There is no such thing as a home board, the whole website is available to you.
>>494553
It's not more suitable by any stretch of the imagination at all. It sounds like you're not familiar with the culture of literally any board with a drawthread, nevermind the fact that it's MOST board related on /co/ (or that they aren't for critique).
>>494553
>he cant fathom more than one person thinking that's dumb
>>494554
Okay, I'll rephrase. None of the boards besides /co/ are being forced to consider taking a large and active general to a barely related and dead board with a different user base solely because of moderation that does not align with the board's rules in any way.
These threads do not have a closeted community by any means and many who aren't regulars will not be aware that this has happened. You also ignored my point that things other than the drawthread are affected by this, check the other /qa/ thread.
>>494558
Filename for you.
>>494556
>culture
Board culture on 4chan changes constantly, if mods want something gone then it goes.
>>494561
>barely related and dead board
>different user base
An art board is not related to OC drawings? What the hell are you talking about? All boards are for their specific mediums. If it's a video game? /v/ unless specified by one of the sub boards. Is it a comic or cartoon? /co/. Cooking? /ck/. So why wouldn't art go on the art board? Who cares about the user base? You still have it in your head that people are stuck in one place, and that is patently wrong. If people don't know, they can be told about the move, I don't know who is telling you that it would be a secret.
>>494562
This doesn't change the fact that /ic/ is for critique and these drawthreads are not. The drawthreads are not being deleted in their entirety but rather policed with an absurd degree of bias that disregards the actual rules of 4chan. Even the mods are expected to uphold these rules and they should be called into question if they aren't.
Again, I have no idea why you keep avoiding the issue where this moderation applies to much more than the drawthread.
>>494570
>/ic/ is for critique and these drawthreads are not
Says who?
>disregards the actual rules of 4chan
Which ones?
>avoiding the issue where this moderation applies to much more than the drawthread
We're talking about the drawthreads are we not? If you want to talk about something else then make a different thread about it. I'm just staying on topic instead of venting all of my frustrations in one place.
>>494569
By this logic, all board drawthreads should go to /ic/. You're aware that /a/ and /v/ constantly have them, right? The content within is all related to the medium of the respective board. It's also the most related to /co/ by far seeing as how these threads produce Western cartoon style drawings as well as comics. If you weren't aware, Original Character threads are allowed on /co/ in their entirety.
A board as large as /co/ has people coming in and out constantly. There's zero chance that a single thread will make everyone aware of what's happened to the drawthread. But this is a moot point since you're asking for a thread to go to a less related board because of a mod that disregards the rules.
>>494574
>By this logic, all board drawthreads should go to /ic/
Yeah, it sounds like you're getting it.
>You're aware that /a/ and /v/ constantly have them, right?
What does this change? Nothing.
>There's zero chance that a single thread will make everyone aware of what's happened to the drawthread
Who is talking about a single thread?
Guy, you are not making any goddamn sense. You're reading words that are not there, and it is doing absolutely nothing to serve your argument that board culture trumps board convenience. I'm not even bothering to reply to everything you say because frankly, I don't see much good in asking "What are you talking about?" to every sentence. Please take a little more time to think about your replies if you want to change my mind on this subject.
>>494572
>Says who?
Everyone within the drawthreads since they were ever made. There are separate threads for critique on /co/. And yes, they are also allowed.
>Which ones?
Would you like to tell me the rule that disallows posting Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Oddparents, Heathcliff, King of the Hill, and The Loud House?
The "no anthro" rule is being heavily twisted to the point where posts involving innocuous shows such as Ducktales, Looney Tunes, Gumball, and Regular Show are being deleted. And no, most of them aren't sexual in nature.
Anyone posting an image with an iPhone filename or mentioning they are on a phone has been banned before. Some people that have delivered board related drawing requests have also been banned.
>>494575
Board convenience trumps culture and it's more convenient to have a /co/ drawthread on /co/.
The drawthreads themselves are allowed - if they weren't, the mods would be deleting them in their entirety. The issue is instead the extent to which they're policed and the fact that moderation is inconsistent and biased. This is true of every last thread on /co/.
Thanks for playing devil's advocate by the way, at least the thread's on page 1 for a while longer.
>>494577
>if they weren't, the mods would be deleting them in their entirety
Mods aren't on at all times of the day, /tv/ often sees NSFW threads up for hours at a time, and /v/ often has threads about SJWs with no mention of video games. This isn't a reliable argument.
>it's more convenient to have a /co/ drawthread on /co/
It would be more convenient to post porn on /co/, too, but that's why we have more than one board.
>>494583
I'm not playing devil's advocate, I'm asking that you put some thought into using this website. If that's the devil then every board is /b/.
>>494584
>Mods aren't on at all times of the day
When they are on, the drawthreads stay up. No entire drawthread has ever been deleted unless the mod in question personally didn't enjoy the picture used as the OP.
>It would be more convenient to post porn on /co/
That would be against the rules, which drawthreads aren't.
>>494585
>personally didn't enjoy
Really? Now you're putting words in their mouths? Maybe every board is /b/ after all.
>>494587
The pictures in question didn't break any board rules and they're maintaining silence on the matter so they only conclusion is that they don't enjoy the pictures. If you have a better idea of what it could have been, you can offer it.
Mods have always been deleting SFW anthro stuff and citing Rule 3 as the reason.
What is and isn't "furry" seems to depend on the mood of the janitor that stumbles upon the image.
>>494593
It's mostly characters who are not at all furry. You need to check this shit out before you post what everyone here is already well aware of. And not just so you don't clutter the thread with the same shit that's been posted several times already, but so that you yourself can see just what the situation is, because it is pretty fucking incredible and a sight well worth seeing.
>>494607
I'm fine with people repeating what's been said if they're a new unique poster because it lets others see how many are aware that this is a problem.
