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How is b short for "random"?
How is k short for "weapons"?
>>482708
moot used japanese naming conventions until 2006.
>>482708
I always thought /k/ was for Kalashnikov
>>482708
/b/aka gaijins
/k/atanas
duh
>>482735
I'm only going by what some other /qa/tard told me once , but I think /k/ is short for Kikan jū 機関銃 (machine guns) I think moot was naming things for what the names were on one of the jap boards or something.
>>482708
because it's random to have a random letter for the random board
>>482775
lol that's really random
/a/
/b/
>>482866
/b/ existed before /a/
>>482873
I think that's an oversimplification. It was a hybrid board that was split up. It was called /b/ - anime/random
>>482708
It's based on archaic spellings of the words. Formerly in the English language, they used to be "brandom" and "kweapons", but the b and k were gradually dropped off because they were silent. Which brings us to where we are today.
>>482708
*sheathes /k/atana*
Heh..... nothing personnel, kid
>>482878
And why was the first board called /b/ when /a/ would have been more logical?
>>482893
Because it's called /b/ on futaba.
>>482908
What do you mean?
>>482915
You're retarded
Some of the names are from Japanese words, although the specific way is not always obvious.
/b/: Mi bunrui (Uncategorized)
/d/: Doujinshi (Self-published work)
/g/: Gijutsu (Technology)
/k/: Kikan jū (Machine gun)
/o/: Ōto (Auto)
In other cases, the obvious choice of letter was already taken, and so the most prominent sound in the word was used. That's what happened with traNsportatioN.
>>483037
the best post you've ever made
this is the standard by which i will hold all subsequent posts
>>482713
Nice buzzword new man
>>482708
Because it was originally /a/ - Anime/General and /b/ - Anime/Random.
Over time the Anime/ part was removed from /b/ but the letter remained.
>>483120
No.
By the way, don't expect anyone to read the stuff in your pic.
>>483129
>I am literally incapable of reading but still irrationally believe that I am correct.
>>483120
Holy fuck what kind of revisionist history trash is that?
>>483129
>don't expect anyone to read the stuff in your pic.
that image is so old man
i can look at the thumbnail and immediately recognize it
>>483132
It's just a dishonest way of discussing things. Images are images, nothing else. If you want to discuss and debate then please write it as a post.
>>483136
What part of it is incorrect? You can't just say "THAT'S WRONG BUT I'M RIGHT!" and expect to be taken seriously.
>>483147
http://4archive.org/board/qa/thread/340964
>>483153
That's a link to another site. I never click those.
>>483160
It's literally an archive of this board you autist.
>>483160
the search function is kinda shite but it seems to be the only site still up that archives everything on this ambrosial filigree locality
>>483165
Not an official archive. "4archive.org", that could be anything, maybe a virus site.
>>483171
Right, and desustorage could be too. It's not, but the possibilities are endless when you're a paranoid schizophrenic!
>>483175
show me a better derp_commander post then
>>483175
>ANYONE FROM A DIFFERENT BOARD THAN ME IS A NEWFAG
>>483149
The character limit on this board is too low to properly list everything wrong with it.
Sufficed to say,
>That means that at its roots it was a website meant for people who enjoy anime
>The main userbase are "People who enjoy anime".
>Because 4chan is a website for people who enjoy anime
>Anime posting users rarely derail threads
and
>These users are a minority
are probably the most laughably wrong and inflammatory statements in that abomination of an infographic.
I like where this thread is going.
>>483183
Oh, so your problem is selection bias. You're new enough that you never saw back when damn near everyone here was a weeb, so you think that your experience on /pol/ today is an accurate representation of the entire history of this website.
I suppose on whatever board you're from, anime is the root of all evil and without it there would be no shitposting, right? Don't worry, anon-kun. Big bad anime is definitely the problem, not the users of your home board.
>>483189
Oh make no mistake, I was here before you, that's how I know you're full of shit.
>>483120
Fuck you for that pic
I you knew the fucking weaboo tripfag circlejerk cesspool that is the /a/ part of /g/, you would like to purge it too
>u are just mad cause you r not liek nimu
Go
fucking go to that board, a glimpse at the first page should be more than enough.
>>483211
Long time /g/entooman here, I don't see what you mean. Yeah, the weeaboo tripfag circlejerk is fucking obnoxious, but if you declared exterminatus upon all anime you would just have a tripfag circlejerk.
The tripfags would continue being obnoxious without anime and the shitposters would continue shitposting without anime.
In what way does purging anime actually help?
If I post in here will it turn into Google+?
>>482708
b was the folder name moot used for his random folder (mostly porn and anime)
FUCKING IDIOT ASS FAGGOTS
FUCKING IDIOT ASS FAGGOTS
2chan inspired 4chan
2chan had /b/ on it
moot fucking stole 2chan
/b/ came along with it
FUCKING IDIOT ASS FAGGOTS
FUCKING IDIOT ASS FAGGOTS
>>483176
Your failure is acknowledging his existence in the first place.
You double fail by indicating that you actually have a special place in your brain with a profile of his internet personality that you're currently using to judge his past and present posting quality by.
>>485149
It's interesting that futaba's /b/'s (there's more than one) are specifically 2D, so moot must have intentionally decided to ignore that and allow 3D and all the other type of crap that gets posted on our /b/.
What a faggot.
>>482735
>jeez!! >.>
>>482735
Please lurk more friend. You don't belong here yet.
>>482708
/b/ was named afters 2chans random board /b/
>>485436
Oh, you wanna fight, do ya? *adopts a boxing stance* LET'S DO THIS!!! >:D
>>482708
How is op short for "newfag"?
>>483183
Except that is wrong. moot himself on /q/ even said this shit himself.
>complaining about anime on a site *founded* for japanese shit
I'd post the image, but I'm not on my normal computer. Will post in a few hours if no one else does.
>>483047
That post is also literally copied right out of a screenshot. It isn't even a good post, because he didn't even do it himself. He didn't even fucking bother to correct the mistake the fag in the cap made himself
>/d/: Doujinshi (Self-published work)
Derp_cancermancer once again proving all he knows about the site is what he read up on ED like the le oldfag le he is.
>>482883
This is the correct answer.
>>485470
Except it isn't wrong. moot's own screencaps from the time contradict what you're saying. He says himself he never intended the site to be for anime but that anime posters were the only ones who posted in the beginning so that's why he initially catered to them. The real purpose of the site was to be an alternative to all of Something Awful and not just ADTRW.
see >>483136
>>485596
>He says himself he never intended the site to be for anime but that anime posters were the only ones who posted in the beginning so that's why he initially catered to them
Nice try revising history, but moot disagrees. Everyone already knows the site was made by moot to talk about anime and other Japanese shit. There is quite a few posts about this on /q/ as well. Pulling w2ch screenshots out with him saying something else doesn't change the fact of what the site was founded for, everyone knows it and the fact moot himself has even stated it himself.
If it wasn't founded for japshit, moot wouldn't of cared so much for anime posters globally considering he lost interest in anime very early on.
>>483037
moot named the fetish board after the indie board?
top kek, way to fuck the translation
>>483120
/a/ was created two months after /b/
>>485607
I'm not revising history. Look at the screenshot yourself and see what moot said.
>Everyone already knows the site was made by moot to talk about anime and other Japanese shit.
No he didn't. Let's quote moot in 2003 from >>483136 :
>4chan is not ADTRW only, in fact I wanted it to be broader.
Frankly what moot said in 2013, which is what you're going by, is irrelevant. He might not even remember what he said 10 years before that. The world2ch screenshots don't lie.
>>485305
gotcha
>>482873
No, it didn't.
>>485621
Anon, are you actually illiterate? moot himself said that 4chan was founded to discuss Japanese culture, which it was. You are obviously capable of reading your own screenshot, but evidently not understanding it.
>4chan is not ADTRW only, in fact I wanted it to be broader.
Everyone is agreeing that you're allowed to discuss more than just anime on 4chan, it would be ridiculous to assert otherwise. That doesn't mean that it wasn't founded to discuss anime.
It seems to me that you're just militantly anti-weeb and as such are intentionally misinterpreting moot's words to support your nonsense argument.
>>486145
moot, 2003: I want this site to be a diverse community.
weebs, 2016: 4chan is an anime website DESU DESU DESU!!!!11111!!!
>>486145
>It seems to me that you're just militantly anti-weeb and as such are intentionally misinterpreting moot's words to support your nonsense argument.
It's more the opposite. You're adapting moot's original intent to fit your own revisionist model of history.
He said himself:
>The reason ADTRW currently encompasses the board is the fact that they're actually posting, and not brooding up half-witted anti-4chan remarks here.
This implies that was never the intention in the first place. He even goes on here >>483193
to solicit ideas for other non-anime related non-imageboards because he never intended the site to be dominated by japanese cartoons in the first place.
I'm sorry, you are entitled to your opinion, but the way I remember things /b/ - anime/random was making fun of japanese culture from the getgo and not embracing it as is widely portrayed by wapanese revisionists.
>>486152
>4chan is an anime website DESU DESU DESU!!!!11111!!!
Where has anyone said that? You are claiming that moot is wrong about the website that he founded, the other side is agreeing with him.
>>486155
Anon, you are aggressively arguing that moot is wrong while his own words as a basis for that argument. Will you just state your thesis or something? Because your argument is all over the fucking place.
>>486162
Your assertion is that it's all wrong? Literally all of it? Because >>485607 is moot himself confirming that it's correct.
>Frankly what moot said in 2013, which is what you're going by, is irrelevant.
>I am going to actively disregard statements by this website's founder that don't adhere to my confirmation bias
>>486159
moot didn't found this site to discuss japanese culture. He wanted to create a western 2chan, a diverse community with a variety of topics.
Just read my pic: >>486152
Notice how he didn't even fucking mention anime.
Let's face it, you weebs are trying to re-write history. It feels like even moot tried to do that later on.
>>486164
Here I'll copypaste what I wrote in >>483183 for you because you are apparently bad at this.
>Sufficed to say,
>>That means that at its roots it was a website meant for people who enjoy anime
>>The main userbase are "People who enjoy anime".
>>Because 4chan is a website for people who enjoy anime
>>Anime posting users rarely derail threads
>and
>>These users are a minority are probably the most laughably wrong and inflammatory statements in that abomination of an infographic.
>>486167
>moot didn't found this site to discuss japanese culture
>moot is wrong and i am right because i am. i know better than he does why he founded this website.
Also, none of that is mutually exclusive with the other side of this argument. It was founded to discuss anime. When 4chan was founded that was its only function. As time went on, moot expanded it to other topics.
>>486168
So your entire argument is "I don't like anime, so that image is wrong"
Fantastic. Thanks for posting, we all learned so much from your shitposting.
>Anime posting users rarely derail threads
So you browse some shitty board where shitposters occasionally post anime. That doesn't change what this website was at its founding.
>>486173
>So your entire argument is "I don't like anime, so that image is wrong"
No you're ignoring my argument, which has been clearly stated here >>483183, and putting words into my mouth about anime. And no, you don't get to change what this website was at its founding with your revisionist favoritism crap.
>>486173
What moot said in 2003 is what matters, not what he said 10 years later.
4chan was NOT founded to discuss anime, it was founded to be a diverse community. The anime board just happened to be the first moot created. Later on he made more boards, just as he always planned to do.
Sorry, weeb.
>>486177
Your argument is disagreeing with those statements. The first three can be summarized with "I don't like anime so no one does" and the other two can be summarized as "I have an extremely small sample size but am absolutely confident regardless"
You're claiming that anime posting users often derail threads. If it's that common, how about a citation? Let's make this easy on you. If it's as common as you're implying, it should be trivial for you to find ten examples of anime derailing threads.
>>486178
>I know more than the founder of this website. moot is wrong because his direct statements don't fit my revisionist view of history.
>>486183
>I'm going to ignore what moot said in 2003 because his direct statement doesn't fit my revisionist view of history
Fuck off you delusional weeb.
>>486187
You already saw a direct quote from him saying that you're wrong. What more proof do you want?
>>486183
>Your argument is disagreeing with those statements
No actually that's just the beginning of my argument. Then I back it up with >>485596
and >>485621 and >>486155, which you are apparently ignoring because you have no argument.
The rest of your post about anime posters derailing threads is mostly just moving the goalposts. Is this your first day on /qa/? I don't even have to go to an archive
>>485742
>>486188
I showed you what he said in 2003. That's all that matters, what he said ten years later isn't worth anything.
What more do YOU want?
>>486191
Are we reading different posts? Because I see you endlessly quoting moot saying nothing to support your stance.
>>486193
His initial statements aren't even mutually exclusive with his later ones. He said that 4chan is for more than just anime. That's it. He didn't say "LMAO GTFO WEEBS YOU'RE NOT WANTED HERE" like you seem to be reading. He founded this website to discuss anime and Japanese culture and later expanded the range of topics. His quote from 2013 directly counters your point while his quote from 2003 tangentially supports my point. In what way are you the victor here.
>>486198
>Are we reading different posts? Because I see you endlessly quoting moot saying nothing to support your stance.
No, we're reading the same world2ch posts but you're ignoring that moot specifically says this isn't an anime site because it's apparently too painful for you or something.
>>486191
Shit, forgot to reply to the rest of your shitposting.
>The rest of your post about anime posters derailing threads is mostly just moving the goalposts.
>Telling someone to support their assertions is moving goalposts
Whatever you say, anon. Either way, that isn't even relevant. Some /pol/ack got triggered by anime and complained about it here, so someone fucked with him by posting anime.
>>486206
>you're ignoring that moot specifically says this isn't an anime site
Where? Quote it directly. Because your favourite quote of "4chan is not ADTRW only, in fact I wanted it to be broader" doesn't support your stance at all, it just means that moot wanted to discuss more than just anime eventually.
>>486198
Nope, stop making shit up. 4chan was NOT founded to discuss anime, it was founded to be a diverse community. The anime board just happened to be the first moot created.
Why is this so hard for you to accept? I posted the very first news post from 2003 and somehow that's worth nothing to you. Seriously, fuck off and stop wasting our time. You keep embarrassing yourself.
>>486206
It's like you can't even read.
>>486212
>Some /pol/ack got triggered by anime and complained about it here
If it didn't happen weekly and not just with /pol/ then I might take you seriously. But again, that's a minor point.
>doesn't support your stance because it contradicts my deeply held worldview*
*fixed. In reality you've been proven wrong and you're having a hard time coming to grips with that. I'm sorry if it destroys some cherished false-history narrative you've been telling yourself all this time but I'm not even the only one saying it.
>>486218
Why is it so hard for you to accept that the founder of this website might possibly know why he founded this website?
Where the fuck are you people coming from? Anime is far less prevalent now than it was years ago, yet you faggots are louder than ever.
>>486219
lol
>>486220
No, anon. I'm being serious. Get me a direct quote and explain it to me. Because all of your quotes have either supported my argument or been unrelated, yet you're acting like you've already won despite not having even a single point on your side.
>>486221
They're salty that despite their best efforts, they cannot kill anime entirely and it keeps having amazing successes.
>>486226
Protip: they didn't support your argument like you seem to think, and they were more related than you seem to realize. In fact they prove you wrong, but again that whole denial thing...
inb4 the /a/utist damage control brigade gets dispatched
>>486228
Then fucking explain it, you haven't done that even once. You just grab a quote that supports my argument and say "LOOK AT ME I JUST WON THIS ARGUMENT".
>>486229
Your argument is literally "I know why moot founded this website better than he does; Here is something that moot said as proof that you shouldn't listen to what moot said."
Do you seriously expect to be taken seriously with that argument?
>>486230
>brigade
Contain your paranoia.
>>486233
>Then fucking explain it,
Alright Senior Spoonfed, here we go:
>4chan is not ADTRW only, in fact I wanted it to be broader.
How is this not clear as the bells of the St. Peter's Basilica to you?
>>486233
No YOUR argument is literally "I know why moot founded this website better than he does; Here is something that moot said as proof that you shouldn't listen to what moot said."
Stop embarrassing yourself.
I'm using what he said in a news post from 2003, you refer to some obscure post from 2013.
>>486236
See >>486212
>Because your favourite quote of "4chan is not ADTRW only, in fact I wanted it to be broader" doesn't support your stance at all, it just means that moot wanted to discuss more than just anime eventually.
He is saying that he wants to expand the website beyond just anime. You are using that as an argument that he didn't found the website to discuss anime.
>He founded the website to discuss anime and had the intention to expand to more topics, therefore he didn't found the website to discuss anime
Do you see the flaw in your logic?
No one is claiming that you're not allowed to discuss anything but anime. Your quote would be a perfect counter to it if that's what people were actually arguing about.
>>486238
>N-no you!
Wonderful argument.
See >>486173
I'm not saying that you shouldn't listen to moot. I'm arguing that the founder of this website knows best as to why he founded this website. Those news posts aren't mutually exclusive with the concept of 4chan being created to discuss Japanese culture.
>>486238
your news post just confirms everything I've said. After my world2ch screenshots moot made this post, he made /g/ and /s/, the first 2 non-anime boards. moot clearly didn't want this site to be anime themed but you have to understand that we're treading on /a/non's deeply held beliefs here and something he's no doubt circlejerked about the wapanese revisionist history at great length with his board peers in the past, so we don't have a chance of convincing him of anything here today.
>>486241
Look my man, I'm sorry but I'm just going to agree to disagree with you. Not only do the screenshots back up what I remember but I'm not the only one who remembers it the way I do. This was never an anime website beyond the anime boards, but that isn't to say anime/manga and japanese culture was not welcomed.
>>486243
Please save my pic for future use against revisionist weebs.
It's almost scary how delusional they are at this point, they really believe their own lies.
>>486242
moot himself stated that it was created to discuss Japanese culture and later expanded to more topics. You are still using moot's words as an argument that you shouldn't listen to moot's words.
>Please leave 4chan and never come back.
I've been here for ten years. I'm not leaving now just because of your aggressive shitposting.
>>486243
>He made the anime torture porn board. That's proof that he didn't want this website has nothing to do with anime.
You sure convinced me.
>I'm just going to agree to disagree with you
Literally the only rational thing that you've said. Everything else can be summarized as "I'm correct because I am. Look at this quote! It's proof that I'm correct! Want more proof? Look at the exact same quote again! Obviously I'm right!"
>but I'm not the only one who remembers it the way I do
And I'm not the only one who remembers it the way I do, either. moot is one of the people that agrees with me on this, while your peers are aggressive shitposters that want to eliminate anime entirely.
>>486250
>believing direct quotes from moot is revising history
It really seems to me like you're the one with a revisionist view on things.
>>486251
Nope, moot never said that back in 2003 when he created this site.
>I've been here for ten years
Ah, so you weren't here during the first years. That explains why you ignore that era and everything moot said back then.
I want /r/4chan to leave.
>>486256
I'm not ignoring it, you're misinterpreting it. I've already explained ad nauseam why I feel that way and your response is "How is this not clear as the bells of the St. Peter's Basilica to you?"
You are actively misinterpreting information and you're so far gone that you refuse to even acknowledge that you're lying.
Fuck, it's like you have an active data filter up to prevent you from even perceiving anything that would shake your fragile anti-weeaboo psyche.
>>486251
>guro
>anime torture porn
>not cat torture and ogrish
hilarious. next you will say anime was the point of /s/ too.
>>486260
I'm not that anon, you're arguing with two people at once.
How is it even possible to ignore facts and lie as much as you do? Are you trolling or are you really that insane?
>>486265
>I'm not even that anon
Really? I had assumed it was the same person, your posting style and level of arrogance is identical.
>How is it even possible to ignore facts
What facts have I ignored? You have posted quotes that don't further your argument at all.
I have a direct quote from him stating that this website was founded to discuss Japanese culture. You have a series of posts he states that he wants to discuss more than just anime here. How does one invalidate the other?
>and lie
Where have I lied? Feel free to point it out, I'll be waiting.
>>486270
Really, because you have managed to keep us apart earlier ITT.
I have the very first news post he wrote back in 2003.
moot states here that he wanted to create a western 2chan, a diverse community with a variety of topics.
No mention of anime.
You posted something he wrote in 2013 as a reply to an anon.
A news post from 2003 is worth more than a post from 2013 when we're discussing why this site was founded.
>posts from 2003
>its about what he wants the site to become
>post from 2013
>its about what the site was founded for
>arguing about what the site was founded for
This argument is fucking stupid.
>>486273
>Really, because you have managed to keep us apart earlier ITT.
I was sure I was replying to the same person, but I addressed each post individually rather than each person. At what point did you jump in?
>moot states here that he wanted to create a western 2chan, a diverse community with a variety of topics.
>No mention of anime.
What, were you expecting him to say "Uguu I'm so kawaii desu desu. This is an anime-only zone desu~"
I don't understand why you think that it's impossible for him to have founded it to discuss Japanese culture with the intent of spreading it into a variety of topics.
>You posted something he wrote in 2013 as a reply to an anon.
Different anon posted that, but good try.
>>486278
I posted the 2003-news post.
moot wanted to create a western 2chan, a diverse community with a variety of topics.
/a/ was the first board he created, that's it. And the purpose of /a/ was to discuss anime, not "japanese culture".
>Different anon posted that, but good try.
Sure, buddy. It was a different anon.
>>486277
>making arbitrary distinctions between "become" and "founded for" as justification for your board superiority complex
I see what u did ther bby
>>486281
Not the anon you're responding to but even tanasinn.info contradicts the shit the weebs are saying ITT
>November 8 - Two more imageboards are added: /a/ (Anime) and /l/ (Lolikon), because /c/ was flooded with NSFW images. moot announces the future release of a database of archived 4chan threads that requires a paid subscription, which had been suggested by Spork, a mod, a week before. By this time /b/ lost the anime/random subtitle and became just a random board
>>>486281
>/a/ was the first board he created, that's it.
It this what that other anon is arguing with? That's fucking hilarious.
>>486281
>Anime is not a part of Japanese culture
Are you feeling alright, anon? Shit, what if this entire stupidity is caused by you having a stroke? That would explain literally every part of your argument.
You should go to the doctor, anon. I'm worried about you.
>Sure, buddy. It was a different anon.
I could post a screenshot as proof, but I'm sure that you're too paranoid to accept that as valid proof anyway.
>>486284
>The United States of America has become a hotbed of corruption, therefore they were founded to become corruption.
10/10 logic right there.
>>486285
No, I'm arguing with the direct quote by moot. >>485607
>>486292
>Good thinking there, genius
That's exactly my fucking point. That anon was being an idiot by implying that there is no difference between what something has become and what it was founded for.
>My arbitrary post is inherently more valuable than your arbitrary post just because it supports my argument
In what universe is this even close to being true?
>>486290
Calling anime "japanese culture" is a fucking insult to the japanese people.
Are you actually insane? What the hell is your problem? How can you just ignore a fucking news post from 2003?
great thread
A+++
would tl;dr again
>>486297
>Calling anime "japanese culture" is a fucking insult to the japanese people.
Saying that it's not is an insult to the Japanese youth and the multibillion dollar industry that has had and will continue to have a significant impact on said Japanese youth.
>How can you just ignore a fucking news post from 2003
I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that it doesn't support you like you think it does. This anon summed it up the best >>486277
But I'm sure that to you that post is somehow arguing in your favour, considering how you've bent information so far in this argument.
>>486292
>my vague, out of context mootquote from 2013 is more relevant than the other anons' specific news items and world2ch posts from 2003
Nicely put. This weeb is literally insane.
>>486303
Dear god. It's time for you to stop posting now.
Ace thread, guys.
>First side
This site doesn't and has never had anything to do with anime or Japanese culture. This news post about what he wants the website to become proves it
>Second side
This site was founded on it. Moot said so himself and with his actions.
>First side
B-but that doesn't mean anything! How am I supposed to rationalize my hatred of weeaboos if moot was also a weeb?
I'm really proud of all of you, great job.
>>486307
>This site doesn't and has never had anything to do with anime or Japanese culture. This news post about what he wants the website to become proves it
What a great misrepresentation of
>This was never an anime website beyond the anime boards, but that isn't to say anime/manga and japanese culture was not welcomed.
>>486306
Go on, explain more about how you're right because *obviously* you are, how could you possible be wrong?
>>486309
Take your pills.
>>486310
I left them at your mom's house.
>>486308
>This was never an anime website beyond the anime boards
No one is saying the opposite. moot said (and I agree) that this website was founded to discuss anime. Over time it expanded to include more, but the main userbase was still people who enjoyed anime, hence the fact that most boards were dedicated to it.
>>486310
10/10 argument. Don't bother elaborating on your point, you've clearly already won.
>>486313
>that this website was founded to discuss anime.
But it wasn't though. moot said (and I agree that this website was never intended to be anime oriented.
>>486314
Mind providing a direct quote? Because you (or someone else, I don't even fucking care at this point) used a quote earlier that said something to the effect of "4chan isn't only anime, it will discuss more topics than that," which has been pointed out by multiple people that it doesn't actually support your argument.
Alright anon, let's change gears a bit. Let's look moot's first actions.
First board was created: /b/ - Anime/Random
Next board: /h/ - Hentai
Happening concurrently: The rules page describes /b/ as a test board which will later become an anime board
Next wave: /c/ - Anime/Cute, /d/ - Hentai/Alternative, /w/ - Wallpapers/Anime, and /y/ - Yaoi.
But yeah, the website had nothing to do with anime.
>>486314
>this website was never intended to be anime oriented.
Correct. He only catered to them in the beginning because they were the most prolific posters. That's why he eventually stopped using japanese naming conventions when he made boards like /v/ and /tech/. He also made /z/ at the same time because he wanted it to be more like Something Awful than a conventional japanese anime imageboard.
>>486318
The Japanese video game board is also named /v/, though.
Your move.
>>486335
What do you think that proves? It might be a bad example if you think /v/idya and the futaba /v/ are the same, but how does it invalidate any of the post you're replying to?
>>486318
>He also made /z/ at the same time because he wanted it to be more like Something Awful than a conventional japanese anime imageboard.
Nah, mate, what the fuck are you on about. moot made 4chan because he wanted to run away from SA. If he wanted to become SA he would of did it by making the site pay2post.
>>486352
>would of
Opinion discarded.
>>486352
>moot made 4chan because he wanted to run away from SA.
He didn't say he wanted it to be SA, He said he wanted it to be a "diverse community" of something awful and world2ch users as he put it in the news post, including those on the ADTRW subforum of SA.
>>483170
>the search function is kinda shite
I'm sorry, I really don't have the time to make a better and proper search :( nor the hardware right now. I don't want to end up like fgts.jp, loading horribly slow
-4Archive admin
>>486949
Stop using emoticons, retarded, you make yourself look like a 13 year old minecraft player.
>>487440
What if you've been using emoticons since before the guy who invented minecraft was born?
>>487443
Stop either way. You should be able to convey emotion without adding in something like xD in your post.
>>486167
>Notice how he didn't even fucking mention anime.
Are you fucking illiterate? He literally says
>By trying to start flamewars between 2chan, world2ch, and 4chan, you're just hurting the web-based English anime community
>>487450
Yeah but moot was trying to start flamewars himself between 2chan, world2ch, and ADTRW by creating 4chan.
>>487451
Yeah I was just pointing out that moot did mention anime in the news post. I guess that other anon is too stupid to even read the screencaps that he posts.
>>487450
No mention of anime in the context that was referred to earlier ITT. Anime was not mentioned as a part of what moot wanted 4chan to be.
>>487456
He obviously considered it part of the "English anime community."
>>487462
He said that he wanted 4chan to be "an active and diverse community". "Everyone is equally welcomed at this site".
From another thread:
>>487430
moot mentions that 4chan was "a cool 2chan clone", but with a few unwanted side effects: ANIME OTAKUS. He also refers to these people as: complete wastes of human life.
>>487462
Of course, but the point is that it was never the purpose or the sole focus of the site. Non-wapanese people who didn't distinguish between western and eastern animation who were from SA but not from ADTRW were always welcomed and encouraged to come, which means revisionist infographics like >>483120 are pretty silly.
>>487462
He obviously refers to /a/, the anime board that was of course a vital part of the "English anime community."
>>487464
>Of course, but the point is that it was never the purpose or the sole focus of the site
No one in this argument at any point in time has ever stated that, yet you still argue against it anyway.
>>487473
Look at the image that started this pointless shitstorm. It likens 4chan to the Runescape forums. Runescape was never the sole focus of the Runescape forums. Would you use this statement to conclude that the Runescape forums therefore had nothing to do with Runescape?
That's the logical leap that you're making.
>>487477
The only leap in logic is that Runescape forums are somehow comparable to 4chan in any way, shape or form. What an apples and oranges comparison.
>>487477
But 4chan wasn't created as "animechan", you fucking idiot. It was founded as 4chan, a western counterpart of the diverse 2chan.
>>487483
You're right, and when it was founded it had a single board that discussed anime.
Then it got another board. This one also discussed anime
Then it got another board. Guess what topic this one discussed? That's right, also anime.
Sorry anon, but both moot's words and actions support the fact that it was founded to discuss anime.
I don't understand why you are so aggressively opposed to this concept. Did a weeaboo kill your parents or something?
>>483136
>myself
Makes me laugh every time. He never did any of that shit himself.
The only thing he did himself was buy the domain and hosting.
How about at least posting the relevant context of that post.
http://world2ch.org/dramabomb.html
>>487488
moots news post from 2003 says otherwise, you stupid weeb.
He said that he wanted 4chan to be "an active and diverse community". Not an anime site.
>>487490
m00t said a lot of shit over time, newfriend.
That doesn't change how we used the site fundamentally.
As far as I'm concerned anything after after 2006 to be not part of 4chan and should be removed.
>>487495
Nope, he refers to /a/ as part of the English anime community, not the site itself.
>>487501
>he refers to /a/ as part of the English anime community, not the site itself.
He never mentions /a/ in the post, he just talks broadly about the site. He's referring to the site itself.
>>487501
>Nope, he refers to /a/ as part of the English anime community, not the site itself.
/a/ didn't exist yet when he made that news post.
![Nicaea_icon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T5x5TQn.jpg "Nicaea_icon[1].jpg")
ITT The Cybercouncil of Nicaea argues what anime jesus did
>>487507
Anon, is it really that hard to just admit that you were wrong? No one's trying to force you to watch anime, they're just pointing out the facts.
>>487509
You've been proven wrong so many times ITT by various different anons, but you don't give up. Take your pills and stop posting.
>>487509
Not him but he isn't wrong.
>>487501
/a/ wasn't made when that post was made, newfag
>>487507
You are talking about a time that a few of us here actually remember being apart of.
To say the site wasn't thematically a site for discussing things related to anime and manga is really pushing it. It dominated the context of discussion and if you tried to have conversations relevant to the majority of boards that exist at the moment, it wouldn't happen or it would be wrapped in subtext that newfags who dominate these boards wouldn't understand unless they were familiar with the memes rooted in anime and manga, and the related pop culture surrounding it. It would be like going to a forum dedicated to fans of the Manchester football club, and using their misc discussion boards to claim that it wasn't a site by and for football fans.
It's just a bit desperate, anon.
>>487517
Oh fuck off will you. You've been posting in this thread for days and you keep getting BTFO'd.
Stop making a fool of yourself. Weebcunt.
>>487518
Like I said earlier, 4chan wasn't created as "animechan". You can't compare this with a Manchester United-site. This site was founded as 4chan, a western counterpart of the diverse 2chan.
>>487519
Turn down the paranoia, anon. I could take a screenshot, but I'm sure that wouldn't satisfy you. I'm just posting here from my phone while I'm waiting for my Physics class to start.
Wait twenty minutes and you'll be rid of me.
>>487523
A weeb phone-poster? The /a/-hivemind would not approve.
>>487522
>Like I said earlier, 4chan wasn't created as "animechan".
It was created for people who wanted to primarily discuss anime and manga, anon.
>This site was founded as 4chan, a western counterpart of the diverse 2chan.
No it wasn't. That was the rhetoric m00t used to try and draw more people into his little site and compete with other sites at the time.
I was actually fucking here at the time, anon. It wasn't a general discussion site and was nothing like 2ch.
>>487522
You're incorrect, but I'll play your game anyway.
He referred to this as a Western counterpart to 2chan, but he also stated that bringing flamewars here would hurt the English anime community. How could it hurt the anime community unless this website was part of the English anime community?
>>487528
Even worse, I'm primarily a /g/entooman. Both boards must hate me.
>>487536
>Stop lying.
I'm not lying, anon.
>>487536
>he referred to the anime community residing at /b/
Go ahead and point out in the screencap where he specifically refers to the fanbase on /b/.
>>487536
>Everyone is equally welcome at this website, as long as you keep your drama and warring elsewhere. By trying to start flamewars between 2chan. world2ch, and 4chan, you're just hurting the web-based English anime community.
He was obviously talking about the entire website, not just a subsection of /b/.
>>487536
>that's not the same as the entire board or the entire site.
Anon, how many boards at that time were not related to anime, manga, etc.?
>>487546
>He referred to the anime community residing at /b/
He literally doesn't.
>>487546
>where he specifically refers to the fanbase of the entire site.
>By trying to start flamewars between 2chan, world2ch, and 4chan, you're just hurting the web-based English anime community.
He talks about the whole site, not just a subsection of /b/. He doesn't even refer to any specific boards in the post, so your argument is very flimsy.
>>487548
Yes he does.
He also mentions that 4chan would be "largely image and comedy based". No mention of a specific anime theme for the site.
>>487544
moot said he only created so many anime boards in the beginning because those people were the only ones posting. He didn't understand why that was but called the Otakus "complete wastes of human life" and was trying to get more non-ADTRW goons to come.
>>487553
That's just your biased interpretation of what he said.
>>487556
Look in the mirror and tell yourself that.
>>487546
>Go ahead and point out in the screencap where he specifically refers to the fanbase of the entire site.
Right here. I even highlighted it for you. He even explicitly states that he's talking about the whole website.
>>487554
>Yes he does.
He does not mention /b/ anywhere in the post. You are fucking illiterate.
>>487556
How so? He never singles out a specific board or fanbase, so the only logical conclusion is that he's referring to the whole site. Anything else is just grasping at straws.
>>487463
>WAKAchan
RIP Wakachan, you fought bravely.
>>487566
Will you point to what makes you think that? Because to me it doesn't look like he never even references a board, let alone a subcommunity of a board. He only ever references the entire website.
It really seems like you're making a baseless assumption.
>>487571
Two different sentences. The first just states that everyone are welcome at this website.
Then he mentions the "The English anime community" that will suffer from flamewars. Quite naturally, because this sub-community of early 4chan probably had close ties to Japan. Many of them could probably read japanese.
>>487576
Two sentences, one thought. Everyone is welcome as long as they keep the warring elsewhere because all it will do is hurt the English anime community.
>>487576
>Quite naturally, because this sub-community of early 4chan probably had close ties to Japan.
Not that guy, and I'm not going to pretend like I was there, but based on all available evidence I think it was also because /b/ - anime/random was filled with guro and porn that had nothing to do with anime. pic related has been floating around for years that gives an idea of the early demographics.
>>487578
No, two thoughts.
The non-anime community of early 4chan would of course not suffer from flamewars with 2chan because they wouldn't even understand that a flamewar was happening.
>>487581
You're going to need to elaborate. He said people are welcome on the website as long as they keep their warring elsewhere. If they didn't, thus bringing their flamewars to the website, moot said they would be damaging the English anime community.
In this scenario, people are openly warring on Anime/Random, the only board that existed at the time. You are saying that only anime fans would notice/suffer from the flamewar that would be consuming the board. I don't follow the logic.
>>487580
>Fucking pedos!
>Wait till I show em my
>collection of Gay nigger cocks
Who is this BC person? I like him.
>>487592
>A flamewar with the japanese sites would only be understood by people who can read japanese
Correct, but you don't need to understand the posts for them to be destructive to the community. 4chan at the time was very small and 2chan was very large. If a flamewar broke out, it would be like if /pol/ decided right now to war with Krautchan's /fit/ board. Most of Krautchan wouldn't even understand the arguments being made, but that doesn't mean that their community wouldn't suffer from it.
>>483120
>mac-linux-windows friendship society
topkek
>people unironically using moot as an argument
Why? Not only does he have nothing to do with the site anymore but most people here don't even actually respect him. They may be grateful for what he has done but don't really hold his opinions in high regard.
The only people who think he's the word of god are /a/. Not even ""weebs"" (/jp/ hates him). Literally only /a/utists suck moot's cock and nobody else.
>>488028
/jp/ got along reasonably with moot before the unrestricted shitposting era began.
>>488028
It's precisely because /a/ treats moot's word as the word of god that the weebs ITT are in denial about what he said in the screenshots.
>>488048
I wouldn't be so cocky, obnoxious shitposter. The weebs are retarded, but you can't even out-argue them. What does that make you?
>>488063
>he thinks I'm one of the people arguing
Wow this is really personal for you huh?
>>488069
>new IP calls you stupid
>S-shut up! Y-you're just one of the weebs!
Not even him, but you're retarded.
And your tone is the same as all the other "new people" that aren't new IPs who suddenly appear and talk about how great the anti-weeb side is.
>>488079
>>S-shut up! Y-you're just one of the weebs!
Where did I ever say that?
>a news post from 2003 says 4chan is part of the English anime community
>a post from moot 2013 says 4chan was founded to discuss Japanese culture
>a slide from 4chan's 10th anniversary says anime, doujinshi and other things related to Japanese culture are the main focus of the site
>moot's last interview about 4chan was that he hoped that the site would "go back to its roots" under Hiro, as in, being mostly about hobbyist interested in subjects related to Japanese culture
>but no, none of this matters! this one thing moot said in one sentence invalidates all the others!
This fucking thread. It's like people are talking to a wall or something. Painful to read such retardation.
>>488125
>many different world2ch posts and many different 4chan news items from 2003 and 2004 confirm that moot never intended this to be an otaku or anime oriented imageboard
>one out-of-context screenshot from 2013 says moot founded the site to discuss japanese culture like it's relevant somehow
>OC from 2003 and 2004 /b/ barely has any anime references
>weebs insist the 10th anniversary panel is relevant somehow
>moots last interview about 4chan was that he said he had outgrown anime and didn't consider himself to be a ween anymore. ,any other anons agreed
>but no, none of this matters! The wapanese superiority complex always reasserts itself in the end!
Indeed.
>>488125
>a news post from 2003 says 4chan is part of the English anime Community
Nope. People have BTFO'd you plenty of times about this. The anime community was just a part of the first board (Anime/Random).
You keep ignoring the important first part of the news post. 4chan was meant to be an active and diverse community. A western 2chan, not an anime site.
>>488133
>Nope. People have BTFO'd you plenty of times about this.
Calm down with your goddamn paranoia. You start screaming samefag every time someone disagrees with you, even though it's almost always a new IP.
>>488132
>many different world2ch posts and many different 4chan news items from 2003 and 2004 confirm that moot never intended this to be an otaku or anime oriented imageboard
He doesn't say anything about that. You are putting words in his mouth. He DOES say that the site was founded to discuss Japanese culture primarily, which is true. It shouldn't come off as a surprise for a website based on another Japanese website to focus on Japanese culture and everything related to it.
>one out-of-context screenshot from 2013 says moot founded the site to discuss japanese culture like it's relevant somehow
How is it not relevant if it's about the site itself and a statement directly from the person who created it?
>OC from 2003 and 2004 /b/ barely has any anime references
Now you are just flat out lying.
>moots last interview about 4chan was that he said he had outgrown anime and didn't consider himself to be a ween anymore. ,any other anons agreed
He doens't say anything about that. I will quote him in his own words
>4chan has gone through different arcs in its lifetime. I think maybe, with a Japanese owner, it'll go back to its roots. When it started, in the first two or three years, it was very much steeped in Japanese culture and anime and video games and people who were hobbyists with a keen interest of Japan. And that gave way to what we think of as the golden age of the /b/ random board where it became this progenitor, this wellspring of internet culture and memes and whatnot. I don't even know what I would call the third or most recent arc. It's settled into being a broad image-centric discussion site. But I wouldn't be surprised if 4chan goes back to its roots and doubles down on just being very nerdy and some of the activist tinge moves on to communities that are better suited to that.
>>488133
This "anime community" was literally the whole site back then, you retard, otherwise he would make that more clear.
>>487463
Why would you link to something which is moot very clearly referring to Wapanese posters. Do you even know the meanings of these words? They sure as hell don't refer to people who like anime or anime fans.
>>488150
Forgot to quote this other one
>weebs insist the 10th anniversary panel is relevant somehow
It's not relevant because it proves your newfag pretending to be oldfag ass wrong, right? Get fucked.
>>488155
>the primary focus
>is discussion related to Japanese anime, manga, doujinshi, culture, and language
This entire argument is fucking pointless anyway. Even if moot did or didn't intend for it to be an anime imageboard, doesn't mean that anyone should post off topic shit on peoples boards. With the exception of reaction images because those are harmless [spoiler]except ponyshit[/spoiler]
Anon, just give up. He's been shitposting across multiple threads about this for several days now. I know, his arguments are incredibly easy to destroy. He will continue to believe that he has won.
The only winning move is not to play.
>>488166
>he
>>488162
Where do you see me arguing in favor of that? Of course I don't want to see people discussing anime where it's not relevant since it has multiple boards dedicated to that, but to say 4chan doesn't have strong ties to anime and basically everything related to Japan in general is to be extremely dishonest.
>>488168
Yeah, he. One person making the same arguments while typing in the same style and using the same kind of reaction images. Either it's one person or those smaller boards have a more powerful hivemind than I was aware of.
>but to say 4chan doesn't have strong ties to anime and basically everything related to Japan in general is to be extremely dishonest.
That's a long way from the half-truths and misinformation in >>483120 which started this whole mess.
>>488169
Huh?
I thought I was implying that I agree, 4chan does have ties to anime and Japan.
>the primary focus is discussion related to Japanese anime, manga, doujinshi, culture, and language
But the argument is inconsequential anyway.
>>488159
>moot said he only created so many anime boards in the beginning because those people were the only ones posting.
[citation needed] Also, if this is the case. You do know this only fucking destroys the entire '4chan wasn't anime back then' and '4chan was founded for japshit' argument, you know this right?
>He didn't understand why that was but called the Otakus "complete wastes of human life"
Yea, that is referring to Wapanese posters, you retard. You do know what the word means, right?
> and was trying to get more non-ADTRW goons to come.
The only SA board he ever posted the fucking thing on was ADTRW. [citation needed]
>>488159
moot was talking about a specific kind of anime fan in that post. He didn't Gaiafags on his site basically. Notice that he made that post on Something Awful's anime sub-forum. It wouldn't make sense to say that his own community that he was part of wasn't welcome there, would it?
>>488179
You do know that the fact that moot wanted to expand his audience besides more than just the group he was part of has nothing to do with the site being focused on Japanese culture or not, right? That' his own word. They don't contradict each other. He would surely confirm that if we asked him about this.
>>488183
>He would surely confirm that if we asked him about this.
Whether true or not (which I doubt), it's this assumption on your part that is one of the reasons why people can't stand weebs and their defenders.
>>488189
He literally put this in a slide and straight out said 4chan was founded to discuss Japanese culture before. He would be just repeating himself.
>>488179
That doesn't say only anime posters were posting or that he wanted other goons to post. You taking that shit out of context. It was that ADTRW was a large number of the posters because they actually posted. moot also basically revised this statement on /q/ when people were asking stupid shit about ADTRW. ADTRW was only at best the main posting force for a few hours as the site was spammed on tons of other anime forums and quickly was overran by non-goon anime fans.
>4chan is not ADTRW only
>>Everyone is welcome as on as they dont start trouble (aside from a flame (read: suggestion) board that may go up soon.
Neither of these even state anything about the site being other types of goons. It implies there are other posters that aren't ADTRW goons.
None of this shit contridicts anything people have been saying. 4chan was every clearly created for Japanese 'culture', however, moot had the goal of later expanding on the topics it discuss. In addition, for a long fucking time, it still held that anime type theme. In-fact, the site still has that theme whether you want to agree or not.
>>488194
At least you've finally acknowledged that there is more than one screenshot where moot says this isn't an anime site.
>>488192
That's like moot wiping out on his bicycle in front of the cool kids and saying "I meant to do that." In truth he had no control over who was coming to his site in the beginning and was surprised to find it mostly ADTRW users considering how he had advertised it elsewhere. It really showed the want for a large part of the non-ADTRW goon community of the time to move somewhere else where they wouldn't have to pay $10.
Hey, how about we all stop dwelling on the past or giving a shit about what moot wanted because he was obviously just as clueless as everyone else
Instead let's focus on the future. In the future this should be an anime only site.
kthx bai
>>488197
Now, why are you moving the goalpost? You know that this is just a bunch of speculative bullshit neither you or me can confirm. I prefer to deal with facts only. Only statements directly from the person who created the website.
>>488199
Hey dont get me wrong, smug weebs are annoying as fuck, but if 8gag or some other bogeyman raided >>>/a/ and >>>/jp/ for a week or something then I'd be there defending them with smug anime pics like any other anon here. Somehow I don't think they would do they same for my home board but I'm actually okay with that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
>Launched on October 1, 2003, its boards were originally used for posting pictures and discussing manga and anime, as the site was modeled on Japanese imageboards, particularly 2chan. The site quickly became popular and expanded, though much of 4chan's content still features otaku, anime, and other Japanese cultural influences.
>>488211
"used for" is not the same as "meant to be"
>>483037
Thanks.
/n/'s naming was because moot didn't know how to delete his boards for some time (why /hc/'s front door was locked instead of it being deleted) so he made it the first thing he could think of a new board for, though.
What does /cgl/ stand for?
>>488214
>Thanking derp_cancermancer for his post which was literally ripped out a screencap with his le epic i read ED i know everything about 4chan
>>485166
No, /b/ was anime/random. It got eventually changed to just random with introductions of anime specific board.
