Why isn't kpop-posting a bannable offense?
It should only be bannable as off topic on /mu/. If it was moved to /s/ or /trash/, there would be no issue.
>>472574
taeyeon v2
>>472572
>kpop
>off-topic on /mu/
? ? ?
>>472572
kpop is music
kpop girls are music artists
unless rule 1 of /mu/ is rewritten there's nothing off-topic about it
>>472572
>kpop
>on-topic on /s/
? ? ?
>>472580
they don't talk about music though
>>472582
read rule 1 of /mu/ again, carefully
/trash/ kpg = personality discussion and gay erp discussion
/mu/ kpg = kpop and music discussion
>>472585
the only reason why i wouldn't want to migrate to trash is the because it's not a sfw board
>>472585
>/mu/ kpg = kpop and music discussion
(not true btw)
I implore the mods to look at any given /mu/ kpg and decide for themselves whether or not this is true.
>>472583
The tripfags and personalities moved to /trash/ the actual discussion is still in /mu/. The /trash/ thread is just people talking about dongs and vidya who happen to post pictures of idols.
>korean POP MUSIC
>not music
this is how dumb you guys are
>>472583
>There's a reason they're already in /trash/
yeah because /trash/ kpg is literally all the retard circlejerking personalityfags from kpg that never discussed music to begin with and just wanted a place to erp
/mu/ should be dealing with the daily grimes/lavren/tswift/whatever fotm meme waifu threads and all the shitty r9k tfw no gf threads ala "hey anon whatcha listening to" with some random cute girl attached, instead of one contained and easily filterable general
>>472592
post more shyrene
>>472589
confirmed for never going to the threads
>>472592
feels threads are dead
>>472595
There's a new /kpg/ thread every hour on the hour. This is diminishing to public dialogue and encourages most of the other stuff you described.
I've seen a couple threads asking what's wrong with /mu/ and how to fix it. This is like going to the doctor with a gangrenous tumor eating your heart and complaining of chest pains.
/kpg/ needs to go.
>>472601
We'll let the mods decide.
>>472609
you're delusional if you think one active easily filterable thread about kpop is more detrimental to /mu/ than, say, "redpilled" bait threads or spamming memey lyrics or the like
worry about /tv/ and /pol/ spewing garbage all over the board rather than some masturbating weebs hiding in a corner
ya'll just mad most of the people you listen to are ugly
>>472615
>most of the stuff you described
I'm not talking about that, as I said in my reply. Moving /kpg/ to /trash/ is a step in the right direction.
>>472617
it will change nothing but make kpop fags, notoriously good at shitposting, mad
it's a horrible idea
if you move kpg to a nsfw board you'll get threads about kpop music in your catalog which is probably going to harder to filter
>>472588
THIS
>>472618
You're right! So in the interest of not upsetting any shitposters, we should just disallow all moderation. Wouldn't want to anger anyone wanting to post off topic threads. Moderation needs to end immediately.
There are rules for a reason, man.
>>472629
no no no you misunderstand
the current situation is that they are happily posting in their own little cubby, hurting no one except newfags who don't know what a filter is
if you take that away /mu/ is going to be a shithole for months i can guarantee it
>>472633
>if you take that away /mu/ is going to be a shithole for months i can guarantee it
As if you couldn't have made it more obvious that you have a pertinent stake in this issue.
Mods; as you can see, the only posters that support /kpg/'s continued stay on /mu/ is /kpg/ themselves.
>>472648
>the only posters that support /kpg/'s continued stay on /mu/ is /kpg/ themselves.
4chan is not a democracy lmao it doesn't matter if more people want it gone than not
>>472649
I wasn't implying that it did. I'm saying only people that post in /kpg/ would laud it as substantial discussion. There's no need to be defensive.
>>472654
>There's no need to be defensive.
what are you talking about?
if posts/threads are breaking rules, report them and move on
>>472656
Anon... that's the point of this thread. Why are you here?
>>472657
because i lurk in kpg and don't want to see it get moved to a nsfw board
if the mods aren't taking action against kpg, they're not breaking any rules
i don't browse the rest of /mu/ because 99% of the threads are about artist/music i've never heard of, but there is a fair amount of music discussion is kpg when there are new releases, during other times it's basically /cel/ for kpop idols
>>472658
>because i lurk in kpg and don't want to see it get moved to a nsfw board
Not relevant.
>if the mods aren't taking action against kpg, they're not breaking any rules
Not true.
>i don't browse the rest of /mu/ because 99% of the threads are about artist/music i've never heard of, but there is a fair amount of music discussion is kpg when there are new releases, during other times it's basically /cel/ for kpop idols
Debatable.
The point of this board is to let the mods decide, anon. Nobody is forcing you to stand court martial or whatever.
>>472663
>Not relevant.
you asked me why i was here lol
>The point of this board is to let the mods decide
well, all we can do is wait then
>>472664
>you asked me why i was here lol
In regards to your confusion to
>>what are you talking about?
>all we can do is wait then
Indeed
there are people who talk about music in /mu/ kpg so a good compromise would be to just ban the people who make off-topic comments, oh wait, they already do that...
>>472673
>oh wait, they already do that...
False
>>472676
>False
i'm not going to restate it because i don't have proof, but unless you have proof of it being false, you're comment is equally meaningless as the part of my comment you quoted
>>472677
Keep it classy, /kpg/ ;)
>>472678
>unless you have proof of it being false, you're comment is equally meaningless as the part of my comment you quoted
>>>/mu/63449072
Over three hundred replies and no music discussion whatsoever.
>>472685
that's not proof of people who make off-topic comments not getting banned, for all i know they're all banned, or will be very soon, i could just as easily post a screenshot of someone getting blocked for making off-topic comments on kpg, but that's not proof either
point is, neither of us can get proof, but i assume mods can
>>472687
>for all i know they're all banned, or will be very soon
If they were, the off topic posts would be pruned. There is no moderation in /kpg/
>>472690
>There is no moderation in /kpg/
occasionally someone posts a jav webm in there and it usually gets deleted pretty quick, sometimes even before a minute has passed since the post, this tells me there is moderation
>>472694
the jav poster deletes it himself and doesn't get punished
>>472697
you can't delete stuff before a minute has passed though
>>472698
i don't believe it has lasted over a minute
>>472706
no and i don't need to prove anything to because you have no power lol
likewise i didn't ask you for proof, because i don't have any power either
i'm sure mods can see the activity of the janitors and it'll show they are taking action
>>472709
>>472709
>no and i don't need to prove anything to because you have no power lol
Again with the defensiveness. I'm not a mod but a mod is going to be reading this thread. If you're here to make your case, you'd do well to provide proof. There's no need to be crass.
>likewise i didn't ask you for proof
See >>472678
>>unless you have proof of it being false, you're comment is equally meaningless as the part of my comment you quoted
Settle down, take a breather. You're getting really worked up for nothing.
>>472713
the thread is about banning kpop posting, you're "proof" is about lack of moderation
so basically all you're saying is, janitors, do your job better, very different from making "kpop-posting a bannable offense"
>>472727
/mu/ is a board for discussing music and artists, most of the comments are about the artists which is not off-topic
if there are off-topic comments that are being reported and not being addressed, you haven't posted any and i'm not reading through that 300 post thread
actual off-topic comments do get addressed, like the example i gave and didn't provide proof for. i'm sure mods will already have access to the proof who will be the ones making the decision anyway
>>472732
>/mu/ is a board for discussing music and artists, most of the comments are about the artists which is not off-topic
This thread is to discuss the discrepancy in understanding of this rule.
>if there are off-topic comments that are being reported and not being addressed, you haven't posted any
See >>472690
And here's another one while I'm replying.
>actual off-topic comments do get addressed
No, no they don't.
>>472739
>This thread is to discuss the discrepancy in understanding of this rule.
i'm sure mods will take threads like pic related into account while making their decision
>>472747
No disagreement there. The majority of Grimes posters should also be banned.
>>472739
>No, no they don't.
btw to the mods who can presumably see history of bans and such, constantly restating this lie probably loses you a of credibility with them, it certainly shows me that your deductive reasoning has significant room for improvement , given that you admit there is a discrepancy in the understanding on the rules
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Like seriously, this is such a non issue compared to the other problems /mu/ has
>>472753
>loses you a of credibility with them
huh?
>deductive reasoning
uh, "no".
>given that you admit there is a discrepancy in the understanding on the rules
Among /mu/ janitors, yes, the board rules are clearly being misconstrued to fulfill their own interests.
>>472757
See >>472609
The damage goes beyond the general thread.
>>472633
>if you take that away /mu/ is going to be a shithole for months i can guarantee it
I'd just like to point out to the mods that this anon just threatened to spam /mu/ if you decided in favor of moving /kpg/ to trash.
These are the people in favor of it staying on /mu/
>>472759
>huh?
didn't you say
>mod is going to be reading this thread
if you're telling outright lies such as "there is no moderation" (and the mods will definitely know it is false) the rest of your case will be looked at much more critically and it's already a subjective matter so it doesn't work in your favour
>>472763
Well seeing as how I'm not a mod and you're not a mod and neither of us have access to a
>>history of bans and such
it is intellectually dishonest to state that my claim is an "outright lie" when you've failed to provide proof that would state otherwise. You've been unnecessarily rude this entire thread and I don't appreciate your presumptuous attitude. If you want to talk about a case being
>looked at much more critically
see >>472761
>>472778
>it is intellectually dishonest to state that my claim is an "outright lie" when you've failed to provide proof
you seem to not understand that mods will have the proof and can't you see it's much easier to prove that the statement "there is no moderation" wrong than prove right? i have first hand experience of getting banned on kpg for an off-topic comment, do i need to post proof here? no. i know for a fact you don't have evidence that there is no moderation as it would contradict my experience which makes me confident what you said is a lie, it doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not.
>You've been unnecessarily rude this entire thread
i disagree and i think you're one word or short replies like "uh, "no"" are pretty rude but i didn't call you out because it makes no difference to the outcome of this thread
>see >>472761
well if he does spam /mu/, he'll just get banned, i'm pretty sure they'll be able to handle one guy
>>472796
Yeah, ok. There's a difference between an "outright lie" and just being wrong. Your experience, i.e. your anecdotal evidence that you're exaggerating for the sake of accelerating your narrative doesn't amount to anything substantial. A "lie" would imply that I'm somehow withholding or misrepresenting deeper knowledge, neither of which I'm guilty of, so go ahead and cut the shit.
>well if he does spam /mu/, he'll just get banned, i'm pretty sure they'll be able to handle one guy
That's irrelevant to the point that /kpg/ is prepared to break rules and throw a bitch fit if things don't go their way.
>>472798
>you seem to think janitors and wrong and you understand the rules better
As I said in >>472759, the rules diction is being misconstrued to fulfill their own interests; they understand the rules and are interpreting them in a way that it allows for their exemption from the rules.
Please read the thread before posting.
>people are actually arguing about this
>>472812
>/qa/ is actually a board that exists
>>472658
>if the mods aren't taking action against kpg, they're not breaking any rules
Cunt, ignoring something does not mean its approved. Fuck off with your newfag tier retard logic. Just because something isn't being removed it doesn't mean it is allowed or not against the rules, it means the mods aren't seeing it.
>>473181
Based retard
>>473181
rules allow artist discussion, unless they change, i don't think anything is going to come of this thread
>>473204
Please learn what a fucking shift key is, you fucking retard. I wasn't arguing for either side and was pointing out you are a fucking retard who is the problem with your 'if the mods do nothing it means it is approved everytime' stupidity. Kill yourself.
>>473222
so in other words, you're not adding anything to this thread, why comment at all?
As long as they stick to their general on /mu/, I dont really care. They're at least pretty good at not leaking out all over.
moot also made a statement on the kpop generals at one point, saying they allowed them their general but banned any kpop posts outside the general, as far as I remember.
>>473224
Because you are a fucking retard and your general should be purged with you for encouraging idiots like you to be posting. You literally outed yourself as cancer when you went
>x is allowed because mods havent banned us for it yet
>>473226
> I wasn't arguing for either side
ok, but now you are right, or are you going to backtrack again?
it's not about "banning us for it yet", it's about not banning for artist discussions at all, because it's within the rules of the board
non-artist and non-music comments do get removed, as per the rules
you seem a little tense, have a listen to this to calm yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpMm64suALk
>>473229
>>you seem a little tense, have a listen to this to calm yourself
Kill yourself.
>>473225
>They're at least pretty good at not not leaking out all over
You have no way of possibly knowing that. You share a board with these /r9k/ tier NEETs. Do you really think they don't post to other threads?
>>473250
Sure, the posters themselves might be posting in other /mu/ threads, but they're not bringing the kpopfaggotry with them. I can't remember a single time I've seen someone post anything kpop-related on /mu/ outside their cancer general. If the presence of that general is what's bothering you, it's actually probably the one thing that can be successfully filtered and forgotten afterwards.
>two and a half hours go by on a very slow board
>this guy >>472900 thinks he needs to bump the thread
A very clever way of showing one more reason why the "General" mindset is a disease.
>>473281
Based retard. If /kpg/ bothers you so much just filter it you autistic fucking faggot holy shit LOL.
It's not specifically about kpop generals, it's all generals. The make insulting/troll/bait/porn/shitpost posts in an effort to keep the thread bumped to the top of the catalog, even when they have nothing to talk about. People with that habit are rude. Bored and nothing to do, they encourage shitposting and trolling only so thread doesn't die due to a lack of interest. It's bid to stop the poor thread from being "unfairly" booted off the catalog by raising the shitpost flags.
>I'm interested in what this thread is about!
>oh no, the thread is about to die/become inactive!
>better troll/bait/porn/shitpost to keep it alive, that will show how much I care for it!
Short, pointless comments to gain short, pointless replies. People often treat generals like a chatroom. 4chan isn't a chatroom.
>>473324
(100% true btw)
