Yuri is defined in the global rules as being of Japanese origin, yet content such as live-action, cartoons, and other non-Japanese comics are not deleted on /u/. The board's rules should either be updated to confirm that western/3D threads and images are allowed or should be enforced as is.
>>472158
Only after you and your shitty mod stay away from /a/.
>>472172
If you care so much about yuri being discussed on /a/, then you should get rid of all the western content on /u/ first. Then /u/ might actually be a usable board instead of what is it now.
>>472198
No, you see I have no problem with yuri discussion. The problem is those /u/tards who try to turn non-yuri shows into yurishit with their faggot goggles and those /u/tards who use stupid shit like 'hetshit'.
>>472203
>/u/tards who use stupid shit like 'hetshit'.
Those kind of people majorly stem from the western fanbases on /u/.
So anyone know who the hell is troid is?
>>472248
He's a yurifag moderator who babysits the YuYu general on /a/.
in this itt: cucks
>>472248
I know that he is a terrible person who claims that he is right, has been harassing scanlators for years and it is one of the reasons he had to shut down his own scanlation. He has tried to steal content from other groups and pass the credit off as his own work.
[spoiler]Oh wait, wrong guy, I confused him for a bigger retard[/spoiler]
>>472158
The fact that the sticky has a post dedicated to western 3D TV and movies, the numerous western threads that are never deleted, the mod/moot comments about allowing it and the fact that anytime people complain about western, the posts get deleted should probably be enough to confirm to that western/3D threads are allowed.
If they weren't allowed, they'd be deleted.
>>472373
Even the sticky self-referentially points out that 3D isn't technically /u/ material.
And the mod/moot's post that talks about western content on /u/ never outright allows it. They instead talk about preserving the status quo, neverminding the fact that it shouldn't have existed in the first place. The fact of the matter is that the situation has changed from 2013: there is significantly more non-yuri discussion then there was 3 years ago, 4chan has a new admin, and a place to actually post western porn (/aco/) has been created. One can only wonder why the rules haven't been changed when it is so easy to update the rules, especially if the whole moderation teams agrees with the rule change.
Good old /q/a, boards should fit my definitions of what belongs there!
>>472429
Does it still count as my definition if it's the same as the global rules' definition?
>>472422
> One can only wonder why the rules haven't been changed when it is so easy to update the rules, especially if the whole moderation teams agrees with the rule change.
Probably because /u/ is likely only one of several boards under the current mod's watch, and rule changes generally aren't done when there isn't a problem, and the only problem is people bringing this argument up every now and then, and it gets deleted pretty quickly and everyone goes on with their lives.
>a place to actually post western porn (/aco/) has been created
This has been gone through a hundred times already. Like most content on /u/, the majority of the western/3D/etc content is not sexual. It is discussion, it doesn't belong on /aco/. /u/ by its very nature is a topic specific board that draws content from other existing boards.
There is no reason rule wise, why KLK, Pandora, Madoka, SnK, etc, can't be posted on /a/, or Kancolle/Touhou/Idol on /jp/, or Nintendo, Life is Strange, and the general game thread couldn't be posted on /v/ or /vg/. Just like the /lit/ thread is exactly what it says, and RWBY/GF/Korra/Webcomics could all fit on /co/.
/u/ exists as a place to post specifically female x female content that could be put on other boards. It's fairly silly to complain about "/aco/ now existing" when there are six boards on which the japanese yuri could be posted (/a/c/e/h/d/jp/). It's like a containment board, but self-containment.
>>472434
>global rules
You are using that wrong.
>>472443
>rule changes generally aren't done when there isn't a problem
Tell that to /d/'s mod who is removing all western content from /d/ despite most of the userbase being okay with western content in the first place. Of course it makes sense that the same moderation team that decides that western shouldn't be allowed on /d/ turns around and says that should western to stay on /u/.
>Like most content on /u/, the majority of the western/3D/etc content is not sexual. It is discussion, it doesn't belong on /aco/.
/u/ is not special. There is nothing stopping anyone from discussing the series that a particular image is from on any porn board. /u/ just does it more than any other.
>content that could be put on other boards
By that logic, you could combine /e/ and /h/ or /a/ and /co/ because it's all porn and animation at the end of the day, right?
Ultimately, if it's the userbase who decides the extent of the rules, there is a fair percentage of people who don't want western on /u/, seeing as how it keeps being brought up despite everything. That's not even factoring in the amount of people who refuse to visit /u/ because it has western content in the first place.
>>472502
>By that logic, you could combine /e/ and /h/ or /a/ and /co/ because it's all porn and animation at the end of the day, right?
That's my point. The entire idea behind /u/ is femalexfemale content, western /u/ discussion doesn't belong on /aco/ any more than KLK /u/ discussion belongs on /h/. Just because it's western and on rare occasion involves porn, doesn't mean that overrides the main topic which is GL, just as Touhou being /jp/'s exclusive domain doesn't override the main point of the /u/ Touhou thread, which is GL.
>Tell that to /d/'s mod
That whole thing was a shitstorm, but /d/ and /u/ are very different boards.
>There is nothing stopping anyone from discussing the series that a particular image is from on any porn board
/d/ is a porn dump, /u/ has a great deal more SFW content than NSFW content. It would be offtopic to have a /u/ RWBY thread on /aco/ if 95% of the images posted are cute fluff, not even ecchi.
>there is a fair percentage of people who don't want western on /u/
I think the majority by a wide margin just doesn't care.
>it keeps being brought up despite everything
So does hibike and anticrack, but that doesn't mean that pairings that aren't Madohomu don't belong on /u/. And really, absolutely nothing is lost by not having those people who refuse to visit. Frankly I'd rather "I'm triggered! Delete content that offends me!" newfags fuck right off back to the anime forums they came from. This is 4chan, suck it the fuck up, threads you don't care about, and report shit that actually needs reporting.
It's not hard.
Bump for removing shit from /u/.
>>472509
>The entire idea behind /u/ is femalexfemale content
Who decided this? Your definition of /u/ being a board about General F/F is no less arbitrary or correct than /u/ being about Japanese F/F.
>/d/ is a porn dump, /u/ has a great deal more SFW content than NSFW content.
Originally, /u/ was created with the explicit intent in mind to be a NSFW porn dump about Japanese media. There was more discussion and SFW content because the userbase decided they wanted that kind of content. And I can guarantee that in the beginning, more of the userbase didn't want non-Japanese content on /u/ than those who did or didn't care. But, those concerns fell on deaf ears (because moot/the mods didn't really care) and those people moved on from /u/ like I'm sure many would do today if, for example, Futa/Female was suddenly moved to /u/ for whatever reason. But if you don't like it, just hide those threads, right?
>I think the majority by a wide margin just doesn't care.
This is what all these arguments eventually boil down too. And there's no way to solve it, so these arguments are going to continue the end of time.
>>472158
futa are now allowed on /u/ because if you don't recognize them as real women you are a shitlord
>>472567
>le unfunny ironic post
>>472563
You weren't here "in the beginning" you disingenuous sleaze.
>more of the userbase didn't want non-Japanese content on /u/ than those who did
>those people moved on from /u/
More lying to underscore your points. This is pretty sad.
>>472172
>>472198
>chicken and egg discussion
Why not do both together.
>>472443
>>472509
>There is no reason rule wise
True, but there was also no reason for WWE threads to be moved to /asp/. Yet it was done anyway. Why? Because the majority of /sp/ wanted it out. And the board was better off for it.
What I think is, while it's true that rules are important, the consensus of the board's users are just as important. If something isn't welcomed in a board, leaving it there will just incite shitposting, which does no good for the board. There is no reason for the moderation to leave it as it is without coming to an agreement with the board other than to wave their e-peen as a show of power.
>That whole thing was a shitstorm, but /d/ and /u/ are very different boards.
That in no way excuses moderation which is inconsistent to such an extent. You're implying that moderators can moderate boards anyhow they wish just because the boards are different.
In addition, it wouldn't have been so bad if the problem just ended there. The thing is because of it:
>And really, absolutely nothing is lost by not having those people who refuse to visit.
is not true, because they simply spill over to other boards instead and shit up their communities (like /a/; see >>472172). So some members of those communities leave, and in turn shit up other boards' communities. And so on. In other words, just because they leave a board doesn't mean that they'll go to some anime forum or something; they can just as easily go to another board and shit things up. In the end, all you're achieving is pushing the problem to another board, and sweeping the whole thing under the rug.
Also obligatory
>Kancolle
>small c
>>472563
>>472674
>leaving it there will just incite shitposting, which does no good for the board
But the amount of shitposting about this is unbelievably low. Mugino alone causes more problems than the entirety of vocal anti-western posters. Which is why I made the comment about it being very likely that most of the board just doesn't care. I don't fundamentally disagree that the rules should be updated, I'm just trying to point out that if something is going to change, given the general lack of problems caused by western threads (which are mostly self contained), the previous mod views on it, and the current mod views on it--the change would absolutely be in favor of western threads.
Such a change is only going to increase the number of western threads, so aren't you really just working against your own (I asusme you don't want western threads given your views on /aco/'s existence) agenda?
>moderators can moderate boards anyhow they wish just because the boards are different
They have to. You can't moderate something like /jp/, /c/ or /d/, and /u/ the same way. They serve different functions as boards and require different approaches to rules.
>simply spill over to other boards instead and shit up their communities
And you'd rather appease them so that they shit up /u/ instead? It's not like /u/ is to blame for /a/ having shitposters and autists who get triggered by things they don't like. I don't understand why you'd want to draw such posters to /u/ from /a/. It's bad enough we have to deal with anti every now and then. That, more than anything, is going to incite shitposting, because those particular autists are the group on 4chan that has taken to the idea that things they don't like should be removed via so much shitposting that mods are forced to delete threads.
>>472816
>>472674
>>472563
It seems a whole lot easier to just report posts that are actually a problem than to push the west/non-west thing.
I report posts by the namefag Manly Man constantly, because he is the worst kind of "westernfag". I.e. from the steven universe thread and posts shit quality art that frequently has man-jawed tranny looking "females". And it's very rare for a reported low quality post to go undeleted in my experience.
But if the problem stems from a handful of idiots that don't understand quality control or what a female is, there's no reason to remove a large amount of content over it. The only western thread I frequent or really care about is RWBY, and it has a fairly high amount of good quality art, including actievely generated content from Japanaese/Taiwanese artists. Pic related.
I don't lurk it, but Frozen seems to be in a similar situation, and also produces good quality eastern content >>>/u/2010585.
Metall/u/rgy and the drawthread are both good fun and fundamentally western, the /lit/ thread seems like a pretty cool place, Korra seems hit or miss and there are a whole slew of korean/taiwanese series that also don't fall under the Japanese-origin banner.
Why push for the removal of all of that instead of just reporting dumb people who do dumb shit, regardless of where the content comes from?
>>472674
>True, but there was also no reason for WWE threads to be moved to /asp/. Yet it was done anyway. Why? Because the majority of /sp/ wanted it out. And the board was better off for it.
Moving that faggot general to /asp/ was the worst mistake hiro has made so far as it doesn't belong on /asp/ and just caused those whiny faggots to just shitpost all over /asp/.
>>472630
I never claimed I was here in the beginning; however, /u/'s original userbase was basically an off-shot of /a/'s. And we all know how tolerant and welcoming /a/'s userbase was.
These threads disgust me. I wish you people had all died along with /q/. Nothing but hand-waving and rationalizing to try to get something you dislike banned from a board where it's been at home for going on 10 years.
