Hiroyuki is cheating on us!
https://twitter.com/hiroyuki_ni/status/709123894578388992
i uh .... what?
what a very silly man
Are we literally cuckchan now?
What the fuck is he even doing? He's fucking embarrassing us by doing this shit.
Does he think he owns hispachan?
So let me get this straight: he does an AMA on a sight that he doesn't even own? Seriously he just lost a lot of respect from me. For him to do this is a slap in the face to all of 4chan.
He may not realize it, but it shows he cares very little about this place that he'd rather go there and do an AMA instead of on here.
>>467005
>he cares very little about this place
I saw Hiro posting here yesterday, what are you talking about?
>>467008
Prove it. Also he really does need to control the shitposting on here. He can't just do a wait and see.
>>467009
http://desustorage.org/qa/thread/464263/#465072
>>467005
moot did an AMA on Reddit, who cares
I'm guessing Hispachan are our allies I guess now, seeing as most of the users post on here. Also learned some things from that thread
1. He has a great deal of respect for the users of 4chan
2. He is in support of the weebs on this site. So yeah westacucks BTFO
3. He eats dogs
4. If he does buy Hispachan, we could very well see a merger between us and them.
>>466998
kek
>>467018
>2. He is in support of the weebs on this site. So yeah westacucks BTFO
He could say he shat on Anime DVDs and fed them to his dog and you would still say this.
>>467018
Who are the allies of 4chan?
420chan, country-based imageboards (hispachan, 55chan, krautchan etc), GNAA, are there more?
He is connecting to other chan sites I think.
>>466979
Hiro speaks so many languages so terribly. Oh my god. I love him so much.
>>467009
And why exactly do you think there's anything that needs to be done?
>>467026
4chan has no official allies. There are occasionally mutual enemies.
>>466979
He's probably trying to buy the fucking site.
>>466979
This motherfucker can barely speak English.
>>467026
I think the textboards (4-ch, world2ch, 6ch, tablecat) should count as allies.
>japan
>competence
pick one
PICK ONE FUCKING ONE
>>467049
Kys
Why in the fuck does hiro keep avoiding this question?
"When is Venezuela going to be unbanned?" "When will CANTV (Venezuelan ISP) be unbanned?" "Why is Venezuela banned?" "Can you unban CANTV?"
Seriously, both moot and hiro avoided these questions, when are they going to be answered? Venezuela has been banned for more than 6 years.
>>467054
>Venezuela has been banned for more than 6 years.
good
2ch hates our guts, atleast the gamer community part of them
>>467018
>3. He eats dogs
He didn't just say he eats dogs. He said he once ate a dog IN KOREA. How could you not see the jab towards Koreans?
Why you say you no like Hiroyuki?
>>467026
there is a chan for almost every single country out there
>>467074
Most people seem to like him okay. People don't understand what he's doing.
>>467049
I'll pick Japan.
>>467013
He did?
>>467026
But all of those hate us.
>>467095
Most of those chan's userbase don't.
>>467035
Have you seen the amount of shitposters ruining boards like /g/? And the lack of moderation? And the janitors who delete anything they don't like?
>>467039
I think the users there want him to buy it.
>>467009
It's up to you to decide
>>467026
>4chan buys out Lainchan
>>467108
I haven't seen a decrease in activity. People like it that way. They like coming to a place that frustrates them.
>>467008
>>467026
>GNAA
You do realize they were on the main antagonizers of early gamergate?
>>467855
Silence knave. You shouldn't meddle with forces you don't understand. To mention them is to summon them from their unholy slumber.
>>467855
Are you trying to imply anyone who actually cares about 4chan gives two shits or even likes GG?
>>467900
GG is an important part of 4chan history whether you like it or not.
>>467931
The Holocaust is an important part of German history but most people still don't celebrate it.
>>467931
>important part of 4chan history
>important
wwwwwwwwwwww
>>467935
Okay? I didn't say we should celebrate GG, only that we recognize its impact. It impacted 4chan, game culture, and journalism in a big way.
>>467940
>It impacted journalism in a big way
See, this is why nobody likes gamerGate, people come up with the most retarded shit to inflate its importance.
>>467940
The only impact niGGers had was bringing a bunch of loud retarded underage brain dead idiots to 4chan. Nothing else.
>>467092
Goddamn I feel old. Stop it.
>>467054
Theres only one reason to ban a whole country. Sorry if youre too stupid to figure it out.
>>467864
Is GNAA even still around? I haven't heard about them doing anything in years.
And while we're on the topic, anyone knows a working Last Measure mirror that isn't flagged by every browser in existence?
>>467943
>>467946
GG is constantly mentioned within the mainstream media. Fuck, they made a god damn Law & Order episode based on it. Take any kind of media / information class in school and it'll probably be at least mentioned, if not deeply analyzed. The only thing to come out of 4chan to impact the mainstream more in the last 5 years or so is the Fappening.
Note: I'm not a GGer. I'm empathetic towards them and certainly prefer them to their opponents, but I recognize the movement had a lot of issues from the start.
>>467943
Its because a large part of /v/ are either underage or /r9k/ types that dont get out much and have literally no hobbies aside from video games.
I guess they slept through the History class on Yellow Journalism too. This shit has been going on for 150+ years in all of journalism but /v/ acts like they exposed a real scandal or something.
>expecting product reviews to be unbiased and totally unfucked with by the makers of said products whose paychecks depend on good reviews
Its so mindfuck ignorant and naive itd be cute if they werent so obnoxious about it.
>>467955
Just because it is mentioned, it doesn't mean it actually had a impact on anything.
>empathetic
Why would you be empathetic to a bunch of shitposters?
>>467957
Yes. Its mentions reflect its impact.
>Why would you be empathetic to a bunch of shitposters?
Most aren't shitposters. Most have genuine frustrations with gaming media and the way they've kowtowed to feminists over the last 5 years. These are frustrations the vast majority of gamers literate on the issue share, but most aren't revolutionary enough to actually do anything about it. GG was not the best way to go about it. The issue they started with was easily (even though disingenuously) discredited and made it very easy to make the narrative anti-woman rather than anti-feminist-infiltration-into-media.
All that said, GG redpilled me about the media. It made me realize that the "leftist media" is actually thing rather than a conservative conspiracy theory.
>>467955
Whoop de fucking do, NBC made a 30 Rock episode based on some guy falling in love with his anime fuck pillow. Guess that makes dakimakura mainstream America too.
>The only thing to come out of 4chan to impact the mainstream more in the last 5 years or so is the Fappening.
Yeah, 4chan is pretty irrelevant, isn't it? But it still hasn't made a "big impact on journalism." Fuck if I know what happens your "media / information class."
>Most have genuine frustrations with gaming media
Just because you're frustrated doesn't mean you're not a retard. Or a shitposter, for that matter. I visited 8ch's GG board early on and it was full of some of the most delusional culture warriors I had ever seen.
>>467969
>Most aren't shitposters.
wwwwwwww Most were 'I FUCKING HATE SJW' shitposters, not people who cared.
>redpilled
Post discarded.
>>467969
>muh cultural marxism
>>467970
Media circles are very aware of gamergate. It's seen amongst them as a very deadly movement and they spent a lot of time trying to hamper it to prevent others from cropping up. The deletion of comment sections in many mainstream websites is directly related to GG. Not to mention it has probably the most heavily contested Wikipedia entry ever.
GGers weren't shitposting, at least not on any other level than channers shitpost. There was plenty of autism though, which reflects the makeup of the kind of people who care about video games more than anything. I respect what they were trying to do though.
>>467976
>>467979
You should hate what SJWs stand for if you care about the artistic freedom of your medium or just if you selfishly don't want to see the things you like taken away.
You don't think anime isn't next? You think something like Bakemonogatari could be made in an SJW-controlled anime industry? Have some foresight, dude. Anime is on its way to becoming mainstream with some of the movies in the works. The film industry is trying to do to it what they've done to Western comics. That's going to bring in a whole new audience and a lot of "feminists" who will start complaining about the "misogyny" and whatnot in anime and manga. Not to mention you've got the Olympics in Tokyo not too far away. Japanese government is going to start banning shit themselves if they feel it's going to bring the country shame.
>>467981
>Media circles are very aware of gamergate. It's seen amongst them as a very deadly movement and they spent a lot of time trying to hamper it to prevent others from cropping up.
Care to back up these assertions? Among real journalists, I mean. As in, not anyone who has ever written an article about a video game.
>Not to mention it has probably the most heavily contested Wikipedia entry ever.
Gamergate being popular among a bunch of angry nerds on the internet does not translate into having "a big impact on journalism".
>There was plenty of autism though, which reflects the makeup of the kind of people who care about video games more than anything.
So, ignorant manchildren.
>Japanese government is going to start banning shit themselves if they feel it's going to bring the country shame.
There it is again, the "they'll come for Japan next" conspiracy theory desperately shilled across 4chan's weeb boards for years in the hopes of getting people to give a shit about Gamergate, by people who don't know the slightest thing about Japanese society or politics.
>>467981
>You should hate what SJWs stand for if you care about the artistic freedom of your medium or just if you selfishly don't want to see the things you like taken away.
Just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean I'm going to act like a fucking intolerable retard and then proceed to shit where I eat. And no, anime isn't next. Japan couldn't give two fucks what the west thinks and hardly cares about things like feminism and shit. The only thing they'll even try to hide at best is loli and that sure as hell won't be through laws. They'll just try to keep it out of sight. Keep your delusions to yourself when you know fucking nothing.
Your moralfaggotry doesn't belong here.
>>467986
>>467996
>Care to back up these assertions? Among real journalists, I mean. As in, not anyone who has ever written an article about a video game.
Gamergate was all over BBC, CNN, NBC, NYT etc. in its prime. Obviously the epicenter is the gaming media, but a lot of these people have contacts within the more mainstream media and have been able to craft the narrative as a result at that level. You seem like you have some awareness of the issue, so I'm sure you've seen these articles and TV stories.
As for the "they'll come for Japan next" conspiracy, this is a completely reasonable theory to anyone who HAS followed Japanese media. I'm a genuine anime fan. /a/ used to be my home board, and I spent way too much time following anime and anime culture.
Japan has ALREADY started (de facto) banning shit they don't like as of 2010 or so by declaring that certain manga, based on their content (such as incest themes) as essentially pornographic, and can't be put on regular store shelves. And a few years after that, there was a huge fight in the Japanese diet in which lots of anime and manga were close to being banned / regulated under a "nonexistent youths" portion of a bill. It was very close, especially since it was a part of a bill made to protect ACTUAL children. Fortunately guys like Ken Akamatsu were able to successfully get the anime/manga portion removed, but it's still a tense environment for the industry.
The main argument for these bills, along with the standard "think of the children" argument, is that they reflect poorly on Japan, that Western countries think it's weird. Japanese culture is certainly sensitive to this. And it's not like the average Japanese person actually likes raunchy anime/manga or otaku. If you think the Olympics aren't going to be significant, that the Japanese government isn't going to be bothered by all the people going through Akihabara and seeing all the fetishy shit they have lying around, you're both just being naive.
>>468000
>Japan has ALREADY started (de facto) banning shit they don't like as of 2010 or so by declaring that certain manga, based on their content (such as incest themes) as essentially pornographic, and can't be put on regular store shelves.
Also, I should note that this was in Tokyo at first only. Other prefectures did it too but obviously Tokyo was the big one. The anime/manga industry even refused to go to a convention in Tokyo for that year as a way to protest.
>>468000
>You seem like you have some awareness of the issue, so I'm sure you've seen these articles and TV stories.
I don't watch television. I do read internet news sometimes, but internet news reports on everything. Moot making Google was in the news. Most people don't care. Hell, most of 4chan doesn't even care.
>a lot of these people have contacts within the more mainstream media and have been able to craft the narrative as a result at that level.
A great and plausible theory, but still no proof or even circumstantial evidence that there has been a "big impact" on journalism, or at least any more than any other mildly interesting news event of the last 5 years.
>Japan has ALREADY started (de facto) banning shit they don't like as of 2010 or so by declaring that certain manga, based on their content (such as incest themes) as essentially pornographic, and can't be put on regular store shelves.
Oreimo is still sold on the front shelves of stores nationwide and have been plastered across the trains of municipal subway cars.
I imagine that you're referring to the Tokyo Youth Protection Law, which is quite conservative, though if you're going to argue that Ishihara was motivated by SJW considerations I'd like to see it. And it's just utterly disingenuous to claim that things that have to be put in the R-18 section are "banned." Might as well say that pornography is banned in Japan.
>If you think the Olympics aren't going to be significant, that the Japanese government isn't going to be bothered by all the people going through Akihabara and seeing all the fetishy shit they have lying around, you're both just being naive.
Japan is going to put the fetish things into the top floors of their stores behind all sorts of other vaguely pornographic shit to the point where only people who are looking for it are going to find it. Which they can already do. The Japanese animation and manga industry is not entirely clueless.
>>468000
>Gamergate was all over BBC, CNN, NBC, NYT etc. in its prime. Obviously the epicenter is the gaming media, but a lot of these people have contacts within the more mainstream media and have been able to craft the narrative as a result at that level. You seem like you have some awareness of the issue, so I'm sure you've seen these articles and TV stories.
And yet it will quickly be forgotten doing nothing and effecting nothing except being on the news. GG had no impact on anything except costing gawker shekels. Being on the news means fucking nothing. GG changed nothing and did nothing. Stop being delusional. I've even been on the fucking news myself and you can't claim I've impacted anything because of it.
>>468006
Who did you kill?
>>468007
You.
>>468008
THEN WHO WAS POST
>>468012
i was going to make this exact post (in lower case) but was too insecure to make it
truly victory goes to the bold
>>468002
It had plenty to do with it. Japanese feminists actually had a lot to do with the bill.
But that's not even the point. The point is that Japan is sensitive to what the rest of the world is thinking about them, and that they'll start changing shit if it makes them look bad (they have been doing so since the 90s).
Oh, and I didn't even remember to point out the whole Rapelay thing back in 09 or so. When the mainstream media caught wind of it and started shaming Japan. Japanese eroge industry decided to basically gave the finger to non-Japanese customers. What are they going to do when there is this huge spotlight on Japan, tens of thousands of tourists, billions of people watching, as a result of the Olympics? It's not something you can just hide away.
>>468014
>Japanese feminists actually had a lot to do with the bill.
Source?
>Japanese eroge industry decided to basically gave the finger to non-Japanese customers.
They're not a relevant market. The domestic market is. You might as well expect a nation to ban pornography because the Olympics is coming.
>>468004
I'm really not going to put work into showing GG's impact to you. It's pretty clear and can be seen with a simple Google search, but think what you want, dude.
There's the Tokyo law. That was back in 2010, and several manga ended up being discontinued as a result. Many more will never even be considered due to the chilling effect. Then then there was the federal bill being considered a few years ago that would have increased regulation for anime/manga content. This was the bill Ken Akamatsu was fighting against and it was a huge deal for a month or two until the anime/manga portion was taken out. Both bills actually had a lot of involvement from Japanese feminists and UNICEF. They've actually been one of the major reasons these bills continually crop up, actually.
The point is that these things exist, and exist in part out of a fear of what other countries think of them. If you allow the limits of artistic freedom and acceptability to be defined by SJWs here in the West, particularly in America, you will increase the chances of their influence being a defining factor in what Japan allows its own people to do.
>>468019
>I'm really not going to put work into showing GG's impact to you
You should have said that to begin with and we'd all have saved a bunch of time.
>This was the bill Ken Akamatsu was fighting against and it was a huge deal for a month or two until the anime/manga portion was taken out.
Akamatsu has fought against a bunch of things. The one I remember the most notably (because it ended Negima and replaced it with all-around shiftest UQ Holder) is the one that reduces the rights of authors in favor of publishers. Which one are you referring to in particular?
>If you allow the limits of artistic freedom and acceptability to be defined by SJWs here in the West, particularly in America
GamerGate has done very little in advancing the cause of what should have been a simple issue about the right of consenting adults to jack off to anything they please. If anything, it's permanently tainted it.
>>466979
>Hiro uses fanart of himself as an avatar
Now THAT is cute.
>>468017
>Source?
UNICEF has been the leading voice behind these bills since at least 08.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oukin-uk-japan-pornography-idUKT20430220080311?sp=true
>They're not a relevant market.
Basically, the Western media caught wind of rapelay, feminists complained hard and started calling Japan to change their laws. Japanese eroge industry responded by banning non-Japanese IPs from even going on their sites. Again, the point is that they're very sensitive to what Westerners think of them, and there is an environment in which they're going to have literally billions of foreigners looking at them. Its reminiscent of the problem China has where people go around spitting on the streets. It's damn well the case that when the Olympics were coming up, China clamped down on it and people stopped doing it for awhile.
>>468023
> Which one are you referring to people in particular?
https://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/throwingdownthegauntlet/
> GamerGate has done very little in advancing the cause of what should have been a simple issue about the right of consenting adults to jack off to anything they please. If anything, it's permanently tainted it.
Gamergate exists as resistance against social justice warriors. If groups like them did not exist, we would already be living in an SJW utopia.
>>468019
>There's the Tokyo law. That was back in 2010, and several manga ended up being discontinued as a result.
It reclassified like five rather obscure series as "porn", meaning they had to be put in porn sections of stores rather than among the comics they really belonged with. That's it.
>>468029
The bigger issue is that many manga will never be made and that mangaka are now limited in what they feel they can do. It has restricted the range of expression in manga.
>>468028
>Gamergate exists as resistance against social justice warriors. If groups like them did not exist, we would already be living in an SJW utopia.
Thanks, haven't had such a laugh in awhile.
>>468028
>UNICEF has been the leading voice behind these bills since at least 08.
I see that they have been campaigning for it, but this still doesn't show us that this is the work of Japanese feminists groups as opposed to, say, a traditional moral majority.
>Japanese eroge industry responded by banning non-Japanese IPs from even going on their sites
Because they're not a relevant market.
>https://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/throwingdownthegauntlet/
I see.
>Gamergate exists as resistance against social justice warriors.
The Soviets fought the Nazis but they were still unpleasant people.
>If groups like them did not exist, we would already be living in an SJW utopia.
The lack of a movement spearheaded by politically ignorant manchildren mad about video games would not have impacted today's SJW movement in the slightest. Except possibly by giving them free ammunition.
>>468030
>mangaka are now limited in what they feel they can do
It has distorted the market, but not produced a ban. Incest manga are still regularly published.
>>468028
>Gamergate exists as resistance against social justice warriors. If groups like them did not exist, we would already be living in an SJW utopia.
HOLY SHIT AHAAHAHAHA
>>467981
>You think something like Bakemonogatari could be made in an SJW-controlled anime industry?
I seem to recall the GG crowd shitting on Kotaku for having reviews of that show.
>>468036
Were they mad that it's not video games, or was it something else? Cause that sounds pretty straightforwards.
>>468037
Because the GGers in question objected to incest and pedophilia.
>>468038
Fags.
>>468033
Most Japanese people don't care. It's why it took so long for things to change in the first place. Most of these changes, again, have been justified in part as something Japan needs to do to "catch up" to the rest of the developed world.
They ARE a relevant market. Japanese distributors were willing to say not to American money because they feared the effect of having these people complain about their industry.
Without the Soviets, we would not have won the war. Without groups like Gamergate, we will not win the war against SJWs. They have impacted it greatly. It's much better to have a community with SJWs AND gamergate than just SJWs. Gamergate exists, in part, because the gaming community as a whole has failed to sufficiently resist SJWs despite recognizing them as a problem.
>>468036
>>468038
It's more like they'll use any reason they can find to discredit Kotaku, especially when it comes to them being hypocritical. Outside of the context, most don't care.
>>466979
Lmao, like who cares...
>>468042
>It's more like they'll use any reason they can find to discredit Kotaku, especially when it comes to them being hypocritical
It's a very general and common phenomenon. Convince them someone is a "SJW" then show that someone doing something un-SJW-like, then suddenly GG is an army of SJWs.
>Without groups like Gamergate, we will not win the war against SJWs.
I don't think so, almost everything they do backfires.
>>468042
>Without groups like Gamergate, we will not win the war against SJWs.
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>468042
>Most of these changes, again, have been justified in part as something Japan needs to do to "catch up" to the rest of the developed world.
While I must admit to not being as acquainted with the history of particular laws, I still have yet to see evidence that Japanese feminist organizations moving the dial here, as opposed to nominally "youth-protective" measures.
Most of the moral argument I've seen has been based on the notion of youth solicitation / predation, with the notion of the "collective rights of the child" taking a distant theoretical second.
>Without the Soviets, we would not have won the war.
The Soviets sent ten million soldiers into the grinder of the Eastern Front to fight and die for the motherland.
I suppose if your household is already infested with vermin you might want to counterflood it with poison but that's not an answer for all communities.
How in the fuck did this thread go from being about Hiro on Hispachan to being about Gomerpylegate?
>>468136
niGGers love to make everything about them.
>>468136
8gaggers are /pol/tards who are the new bronies. Every single thread and topic hasd to be about the holy twitter war against muh sjws and tumblr and all things that one girl likes who laughed at me in school.
>>467855
They hacked the primary GG board on 8gag and constantly tried to sabotage GamerGate, how is this being "antagonizers of early gamergate"?
Remember when all the goobers said they were going to fuck off to their new chan and never come back?
>>468136
Welcome to /qa/.
>>468451
Yeah the "Exodus" lmao
>>467005
>>467008
I <3 u Hiro
>>467005
He seems not to fully understand the gravity of owning 4chan. I think it has to do with the culture gap. The environment in Japan is just way different so he can take a more laissez faire attitude with 2ch. That and he has appointed more trustworthy mods. The mods on 4chan are at odds with Hiro and he doesn't seem to care.
