>look at old 4chan screenshots
>"epic for the win"!!
>"1 thousand internets for you good sir"
>emoticons everywhere
>tripcodes eveywhere
>a lot of people are very clearly underage
>LOL THIS WINS SO MUCH INTERBUTT XD
>memes are extremely shallow, nothing as varied as bane, ben garrison or modern spurdo
>people unironically thinking they are legion and shit
>site functionality is garbage, goes down or gets DDOS'd all the time
Is this the shit people worship all the time? And don't come to me with "but it was only us
who acted like this, normalfags didn't so it was ok!" No, not really it's not any less awful.
>>369948
Ok.
>>369948
none of us were as cruel as all of us
>>369948
>Is this the shit people worship all the time?
It's the environment
There is a major difference between people coming here for discussion and then shitpost on the side and people who come here for just shitposting and attempt to shut down any actual discussion
>>369948
>>369948
>newfag opinions
>>369948
Yeah, it's almost like people were having fun or something instead of being cynical pieces of shit that hate everything and spend more time autistically sperging out over the possibility that other sites are 'infiltrating' them.
I'm glad those days are over. If you excuse me, I need to call someone a redditor and then piss myself.
>>370310
fuck man
it hurts
that shit used to be confined to /b/ is the big difference
>>369948
say that to my face not online motherfucker
>>369948
>>memes are extremely shallow, nothing as varied as bane, ben garrison or modern spurdo
I wasn't here when the screenshots you're probably talking about were taken (2003-2006 I'm guessing)
But to me that quote above isn't a bad thing, it's probably what made old 4chan so memorable for people. Memes are fucking retarded.
They were never supposed to be as serious as some people take it today. Pretending it's some form of art just leads to stagnation and less people trying things because they won't live up to your expectation.
The atmosphere looks like it was more easy going. To hell with "quality", I'm not trying to get my 4chan posts in a museum or something. I just want a place to relax and talk about stupid shit with other people like me.
Humor is better when it's raw, even if that makes it lame sometimes.
I wish we'd just stop using the word "meme" altogether and just call them "jokes" and "humor" and stop being so uptight about it all.
Old 4chan looks like it had all that, even if it might seem lame to us today it would have been more enjoyable.
just look at how much 2015 newfags need to justify trashing the entire site. b-b-but it was always shit! no it wasn't, fuck off.
Spurdo is becoming the new Pepe.
>>369948
>memes were shallow
thats because we didnt call them memes back then, they were just jokes
>>emoticons everywhere
Emoticons were always considered a Gaia thing, totally cancerous. Even then we didn't use them. Only 'LOL' and 'LMAO' stopped being used here.
But hey, you wouldn't understand. You sound like a guy who got Internet two years ago.
>>370657
It was an enjoyable shit.
>>370657
4chan was always fucking shit. But at the very least, it was very fucking nice and enjoyable shit that had lots of variety
>>369948
Fuck off newfag.
>>369948
Yes, we miss when 4chan was less of a SERIOUS BUSINESS
>>369948
>a lot of people are very clearly underage
4chan was a website hacked together with stolen assets by a group of teenagers. We were under-aged back then and we still acted more mature than the hoards of spergs around today who have all but completely drained 4chan or creativity.
It was fun.
Something that would likely offend a sperg like you.
>>369948
Honestly? 4chan has got way better as time went on. Even since the "golden years" of 2007-2008 it's aged really well. People are actually wittier and not just pretending to be like in the past.
Only faggots who literally treated it as a secret clubhouse complain.
>>370310
This.
Even le fucking "reddit style comics" actually started on /b/.
But it's fine. Shit gets stale. People who keep rehashing the same shit are retarded.
>>370751
I'd rather have less whit and less maturity if it came with less humor policing, and less people thinking they're accomplishing something in life collecting epic memes.
>>369948
I always enjoyed creating content, and in a way nowadays it's more of a challenge. Too bad I don't have as much time to do so as back in the day
>>369948
>memes are extremely shallow, nothing as varied as bane, ben garrison or modern spurdo
True. Just look at the old memes, like cockmongler. So extremely flat and boring. I mean, how many of the old memes are still actually used? They are so dead.
Pepe and feel guy will be around forever. I think these memes took off in 2009. 6 years ago and they're still used. Really shows how good the new memes are and how bad the old ones were.
>>370820
Not really... Those are still used because normies started spamming them on 9fag, tumblr, facebook, etc.
We got older.
>>370690
we're entering the post-post ironic era now.
If you look at how things shifted, it went from the ironic spamming of "LE XD" to the post ironic [s4s] lampooning of irony, to quality posts made only to criticize post irony.
>>370849
Hmmm..nice post you have made there. I give it an 8/10! Well done! Well posted my friend! Belongs in a museum!
>>370829
Feelguy and Pepe are still relevant because they depict the general 4chan userbase very well.
Having self-pity due to various common reasons is a strong emotion most of us can relate to and associate.
There is literally nothing wrong with using emoticons.
>>370853
Maybe we should bring the happy times instead
>>370631
Haha, no it didn't.
People who disagree with OP weren't there back then and are just shitting themselves trying to justify it even though he posted a cold, hard truth.
>>370865
To think the Pure Pure translation has been going for like ten years at this point. Amazingly, the guy doing it is still alive, just VERY, VERY slow.
>>370889
*blows dust off old feelsgoodman.jpg*
>>369948
Because that shit wasn't what people came here, one meme factory mentality spread people started realizing how repetitive and shitty it was by itself. Look at /tg/, there's about as much OC being made as there ever was in their 'golden age' pre-nazimod, and it's on the whole about the same level of quality(excluding modern quests) yet people will constantly dismiss it as faggotry while at the same time bitching about a lack of OC. Any board focused primarily on memes is gonna be shit.
>>369948
At the time, all that shit was fresh. It wasn't till those things started to pop up on normie shit like facebook and leddit that they became taboo. It happens with pretty much every meme or phrase.
Here's shit off the top of my head 4chan loved but hates now since normies picked up on it
>rageface comics
>doge
>Pepe and Wojak are getting close
>phrases like epic win etc
>being related to Anoymous
There's probably a fuckton more. 4chan is just a bunch of hipsters really
>>369948
We liked it because there was less bullshit. It's no different than before in some ways. It's not even the memes that are the problem. Those were always gay and were only meant to be a passing form of humor. Rather than lulz we have kek and lel, instead of Millhouse we have Pepe and all that.
And they were just jokes. Now we have people trading Pepe images "ironically" and going on /r/4chan specifically to look at memes and take this shit seriously. Or, alternatively, we've also got a flood of people who take shit too seriously as well. Back then it was laidback and the shoddy interface cut down shitposting. Now people either come here to form a crusade or just to shitpost.
Because imagine shitposting now. It's easy. You've got an inbuilt extension, quick reply, auto update, etc. You can shitpost as soon as the post timer is down. Back then? Click a post, scroll up to the top, type in your reply, hit enter, realize you forgot noko and try to find the thread manually because there's no catalog, and on and on. So if people were gonna troll, they were gonna troll using shit that was gonna get attention. And that often meant making a thread that'd catch interest for discussion as well otherwise nobody would take the time to post. Most wouldn't even fucking bother. Now? Quick reply "UR FGTS LEL XD" and just sit back as two dozen people quote you going "WOW BAIT HEY GUYS THIS POST IS A TROLL, BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT BAIT HERE'S YOUR REPLY". It's more like twitch chat rather than just a lightweight imageboard for people to discuss interests. The dev did a good job with porting all this shit over to a proper code base years ago, but by god did he fuck up with making an inbuilt extension and not breaking external ones. Because the ease of use just fucking killed post quality on faster boards.
>>370973
Wojack already was, but then people started using it ironically or whatever and now no one cares. Also there have always been a few boards that hated Pepe.
>>369948
That was /b/, but remember other boards were a lot smaller back then and had their own culture and quirks. Now go to /tv/ or /sp/ and they are complete fucking garbage
>>370320
What I actually miss the most about the new 4chan is the lack of Gaia redirects
>>371009
Go on /a/, they still do that.
>>369948
How is bane not shallow?
>>371045
Because it's big
>>371046
I had to hit myself in the face to resist saying it.
>>371045
you just don't get how funny it is to say things years after they stopped being entertaining. ie: not funny at all.
>>371046
For you.
>>371057
SOMEBODY GET THIS HOTHEAD OUT OF HERE
>>370903
"Happy" doesn't have to be penguins of dooms.
>>371067
This is how I feel.
We can have fun with our community without accusations of Redditor.
Maybe not on /v/, I think that place is a lost cause.
I have a theory. All the old shitty dead memes are from an era when 4chan was very anime-oriented. These people are not funny, they're highly autistic and their memes are very boring an un-funny.
Weeaboo memes - garbage.
>>370829
That only happened during the last year.
>>371077
If by last year you mean 2012.
>>371077
>I have a theory. All the old shitty dead memes are from an era when 4chan was very anime-oriented. These people are not funny, they're highly autistic and their memes are very boring an un-funny. Weeaboo memes - garbage.
>Gosh where do I go to complain about Weeaboos and their memes? I'll go to 4chan!
I can see why the site is so miserable now.
>>371077
Do you even know what a weaboo is?
People don't post on 4chan to be friendly or talk to people anymore, they post on 4chan because someone in the thread was wrong or did something they didn't like.
>>371088
>Gosh where do I go to complain about Weeaboos and their memes? I'll go to 4chan!
Sorry, this isn't an anime site anymore.
"4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images." From the FAQ.
>>370865
>Post number ~15000
>After over two and a half years of /b/ existing
It sounds like it was literally slower than /news/ is now, or /po/. I wouldn't have wanted to be in a community that moved that slowly and yet still consisted primarily of shitposts. The meme history wouldn't be worth it. There are probably other chans right now that have fewer shitty posts but only get 15000 posts after a quarter of a decade, and yet nobody goes to those, despite the fact that the Internet needs them more now that >normies are >infiltrating >muh sekrit club, and the rest of the Internet is all Facebook and Twitter.
>>371097
If 4chan isn't an anime site, then why are most of the banners anime related? Why is the mascot from a manga? Why are most of the ads anime related? Why are all official 4chan panels held at anime cons?
>>371103
>then why are most of the banners anime related
Because only anime autists cares about making them.
>Why is the mascot from a manga
Because that's how it is and I doubt Hiro is willing to change that.
>Why are most of the ads anime related
Ask Hiro, he could easily have gotten online casinos to advertise here
>Why are all official 4chan panels held at anime cons
These panels are not held anymore, they're a thing of the past.
>>371103
He's a faggot but he's right. /a/'s elitism in the face of normalfags balkanized the other boards against it, and by extension anime.
>>371106
You've got no answer except 'that's how it is' or 'that's for autists'. Typical underage shitposter.
>>371097
>Sorry, this isn't an anime site anymore.
It is, partially. There are still a bunch of anime boards, so even if anime doesn't represent the entirety of the site, it does represent a big percentage of it.
>>371108
I'd argue this is a good thing though.
>>371113
Eh, I don't know about good, it's better than what happened to /co/ when they tried being nice, so it worked I guess, but /a/'s elitism is slowly being eroded.
>>371118
>but /a/'s elitism is slowly being eroded.
People have been saying this for years and it hasn't happened yet.
>>370980
Now that Pepe and Wojak are picking up popularity on Facebook and Twitter, it's only a matter of time before posting them anywhere is on par with posting trollface or saying epic win.
But that's ok because something new will pop up, run its course and the cycle will repeat until Hiro throws the server in a microwave because he doesn't get how imageboards work
>>371109
You're a typical weeaboo fag living in the past. You actually thought that 4chan panels at anime cons was still a thing.
"It's likely our 10th Anniversary Panel was our last". from the FAQ
>>371127
>You're a typical weeaboo fag living in the past.
How? Because I tell it like it is?
>You actually thought that 4chan panels at anime cons was still a thing.
Up until 2013, they were.
>"It's likely our 10th Anniversary Panel was our last". from the FAQ
New admin, new rules. More than likely, people will want more panels to happen in the future.
>>371121
Rec threads are only warned instead of being banned now, the mods are turning, and they're the ones with the most influence over our new ESL as fuck owner.
>>371077
What you don't understand, because you're probably coming straight out of social media sites in which having fun is supposed to come in the form of pre-packaged little parcels of self-contained humor, often called "memes"
is that what "meme" originally meant, as a term coined by richard dawkins, is simply a unit of any kind be it humor or behavior that spreads around from person to person.
Having fun on 4chan is not supposed to be about coming up with the best image macro or reaction image and dick measuring about how far it spreads. It's about the whole interaction, which is why older memes were not as funny on the surface or to someone looking in from the outside.
If you want funny maymays that you can save to your hard drive and post around without putting much thought into it then you might want to look for a different website.
>>371131
Pretty sure they still get banned. At least they still get deleted.
>>371127
So you don't know what weeaboo means.
>>371131
You serious? I seen a rec thread yesterday with the (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) message. /a/ is one of the only boards that still has that message every now and then.
>>371129
>Up until 2013, they were.
Not really. No panels between 2007 and 2013.
"4chan has held official panels at Anime USA (2005), Otakon (2005/2006/2007), and Anime Weekend Atlanta (2013). In addition, we've held a few smaller meetups at Anime Weekend Atlanta (2005 & 2006), and Anime Central (2006)."
>>371129
>New admin, new rules. More than likely, people will want more panels to happen in the future.
Get real. Hiro may be japanese, but that doesn't mean he owns a hug pillow and watches moe anime.
>>371131
Rec threads are still banned, and usually don't do more than 10 posts without getting deleted.
People on /a/ learned to ignore threads that are against the rules and learned to use the report button. Other boards should take a tip.
>>371138
All anime cons? Hmm, sounds like they know their audience.
>Get real. Hiro may be japanese, but that doesn't mean he owns a hug pillow and watches moe anime.
Guess you weren't here for his Q&A, but go ahead and tell me I'm wrong. It's the only way you headstrong people can sleep at night thinking you're right.
>>371133
Yes, cockmongler was all about interaction, a really deep and profound meme for true gentlemen such as yourself. fuck off
>>371143
well really, I guess I should have put it this way,
it's not about the memes at all.
Does it make you feel go to be a part of 4chan and say "we have the best memes"? What does that do for you?
If people find shit funny and everyone is enjoying it, then it's great, no matter how it might look to people 10 years later.
You say we have better memes today, fine, but look around ask yourself what percentage of our users genuinely enjoy their experiences here.
>>371141
Yes, they know their audience, that's why there were no panels after 2007 when the userbase started to change drastically.
The 10th Anniversary Panel was held just for old times sake.
So he has watched Evangelion and TTGL, what's your point?
>>371149
>Yes, they know their audience, that's why there were no panels after 2007 when the userbase started to change drastically.
So when all the anonymous legion posters came in, that's when the site stopped being about anime? Just because you autists ruined one board, doesn't mean the whole site changed.
>The 10th Anniversary Panel was held just for old times sake.
But if the site had 'changed dramatically' like you said, why wouldn't they hold it in a non anime venue to get more people to go? There were more people at that anime panel for 4chan, than there were for any anime 4chan panel before 2013. Sounds like you're just talking shit to try and support your terrible argument.
>So he has watched Evangelion and TTGL, what's your point?
Oh, so you weren't here. Never mind then.
>>371160
>Oh, so you weren't here. Never mind then.
But I was here. You can't fool me. Sorry.
>>371161
Address my other points, newfriend.
>>371141
The least entry level anime I remember him mentioning was Dirty Pair, and given that he grew up in Japan in the 80s he wouldn't have to be that into anime to have watched it.
>>371138
>Get real. Hiro may be japanese, but that doesn't mean he owns a hug pillow and watches moe anime.
since he's been the admin of 4chan he's mostly posted on /a/
>>371162
But you have no points for me to address.
>>371168
Because I've already proved you wrong.
>>371168
literally "lalalalala i can't hear you" the post
you're wrong
>>371097
I got bad news for you: It's still an anime site. Anime is still allowed outside of /a/, on /b/, on /pol/ even.
Complaining about weeb memes on 4chan is like complaining about people talking about Runescape on the runescape forum.
I think, if anything, this idea that anime and weebs being a bad thing is the entirely new idea brought about by the foreign elements of the site. The things that have made it shitty.
>>371176
Anime being bad is new, weebs were always hated. Although I guess weebs just means anyone who is into anime at this point.
>>371179
Sounds like someone is a bit mad. How adorable.
>>371178
>Although I guess weebs just means anyone who is into anime at this point.
That's what it means now.
Japanophiles? Yeah, no one liked them.
But now Weeb just means "Someone who doesn't look in the general direction of a Japanese television show/video game/movie and start wretching blood, screaming the pledge of allegiance, and shooting his revolver into the air while pissing red, white, and blue".
It's a sad definition that has made talking about relatively normal things completely untenable.
>>371182
>U-UMAD?
>>371178
>Although I guess weebs just means anyone who is into anime at this point.
Jesus, you're even more retarded than I thought.
>>371186
Nice pic, really shows how you're acting right now.
>>371192
>N-NO U
>>371189
It used to mean wannabe Japanese newfag.
>>371193
>actually having pics like that saved on your computer
You must lose a lot of arguments, right pal?
>>371197
That's why I said "at this point" you illiterate fuck you.
>>371198
>saving images on an imageboard is bad
>>371201
Oh, so you just didn't have any idea what you were talking about? Yeah, sounds like every post you've made in this thread. C'mon, man. What's the next great troll attempt reply? You're entertaining.
>>371203
You don't even know who you're replying to anymore.
>>371205
Neither do you.
>>371206
Yeah, because I wasn't even part of your argument with the other guy, dipshit.
>>371210
>I-IT WASN'T ME
You sound just as retarded.
>>371203
It's extremely pathetic to save reaction images just so you can use them later on when you're losing an argument.
>>371212
>It's extremely pathetic to save reaction images
Oh, but it's not pathetic to save reaction images anyway? It's only pathetic when it's annoying you? Don't cry, man.
>losing an argument.
>>371211
How was anything I said wrong?
>>371219
Because I said so.
>>371216
Calm down, you're not making any sense.
Notice how I'm not posting any reaction pics. I don't save them on my computer because I'm not a pathetic little bitch.
What will you post next? A cockmongler-pic and "this is you" as the text?
>>371221
So you're just shit posting at this point. Do you even know which post I made?
>>371224
>I don't save them on my computer because I'm not a pathetic little bitch.
I'm sure you do, but it's more convenient for you to say you don't at this point in time.
>>371226
>Do you even know which post I made?
Do you even know which post I made?
>>371228
The ones about if 4chan was still an anime site and then it devolved into "umad" and I can't tell which side you or the other guy you're responding to were on.
>>371228
Saving and posting reaction images is something that only a few autists do. Most normal posters can argue without using reaction images.
But hey, you deserve praise for using only a few anime reaction pics.
>>371238
I know 4chan is still an anime site.
>>371239
>O-ONLY AUTISTS DO THAT
Spouting that buzzword only shows how deeply you've lost the argument. Do you have any more?
>>371240
wow, a will smith-reaction pic. You sure love reaction images, how big is your folder?
shit wasn't nearly as cringeworthy back then i assure you, it's taken on new connotations since your mom and your 12 year old nephew started doing it
>>371244
>how big is your folder?
>>369948
It was a better time,now everyone is coered with a layer of sarcasm,cynicism and bitterness.
i think a lot of what changed is that people on here now are the same people from back then, we're just older now. i've been here like seven years now, it was pretty shit back then, yeah, but we were all a part of the shit. we were just a bunch of stupid fucking kids who didn't have any friends. now we're stupid fucking adults who don't have any friends.
>>371249
Do you have any pics with smug anime girls?
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Kill yourselves already you fucking pathetic autistic retards
>>371278
Hello, my anonymous friend.
Is this now a 'post your home board's most smug reaction image' thread?
>>371282
Yes.
>>371282
see >>369788
>>371293
>>371100
That isn't /b/. /b/ made it to 100,000 in the first six months and over a million by the point that screencap was taken and 7 million only a year later
>>371009
There is no need for them anymore given Gaia is dead however Reddit has taken over its place for all intents and purposes.
>>371340
Gaia still exists. Somehow.
>>371100
mods reset post counts several times in the old days
like the zero hour meme
>>369948
>>memes are extremely shallow, nothing as varied as bane, ben garrison or modern spurdo
So your point is that old memes died for being stupid and shallow and were replaced by better memes? The issue with that is that the old memes that survived are some of the shallowest:
>Obsession over gets (didn't start on 4chan but has been part of the site since it started)
>likewise the king of gets has been around for nearly a decade
>the gb2 abbreviation has been around for nearly all of 4chan history and while less common now, is still used
>the stick it in the pooper or sharpie in the pooper meme has been around forever on /b/ and is still very common
>the tits or gtfo phrase has been around about as long and is still very commonly said
>the rules of the internet are still commonly referred to although most /b/tards only actually know rules 1, 2 and 34
>the term /b/tard has been the accepted word for a member of /b/ for almost all of the board's existence
>Yotsuba has been the site's mascot since the beginning as far as I know
>the constant use of the word faggot along with words like newfag and oldfag and phrases like OP is a faggot have been around for ages
>the word cancer to describe that which is wrong with 4chan has been around nearly as long as the very first major changes to 4chan culture
>Boku no Pico being used as a go to anime suggestion on /a/ is very old
>the word copypasta has been used for a long time although I can't think of any old copypasta actually still in use
>There are probably tons of others but you get the point, old memes are not dead
All in all I would say the 'best' (as in those that survive the longest) memes are just words and phrases, which many often don't even think of as memes, which can be easily repeated and passed on to the next generation without required originality like images do to remain relevant. It also doesn't make sense for normalfags to adopt these phrases unlike with funny images, allowing them to remain 4chan.
>>369948
>a lot of people are very clearly underage
You make it sound like this isn't still just as much still the case today
>>371376
I like the use of fag as a suffix, it's actual kind of useful.
Memes have always been cancer because you already know what the punchline is. The only time 4chan is ever amusing is when somebody posts shit that they come up with themselves. Even if it's unfunny garbage, original content is better than memes.
Pic not really related.
4chan has reached its peak; nothing will ever be funnier than this banana. It embodies a level of humor newfags and autists can appreciate, yet it's meta and absurd enough that oldfags and pseudo-intellectuals can analyze its usage. It transcends new memes, too. Whenever there's a new meme, it's only a matter of hours before somebody photoshops this banana onto it.
>>371464
>world4ch
;_;
>>370740
>We
Hello newfriend
>>370865
It's great for infuriating people ;^)
>>369948
>ben garrison meme
>good
back to /pol/, newfriend
>>372213
It in't the funniest meme but you have to admit that some of the cartoon parodies are amazingly well done
>>369948
>The glory days are gone.
Picture related.
>>372194
It's still up you know
hol up senpai
it was fun when I was 12
>>373617
>rage comics
>glory days
hownew.ru
>>373675
What? No it isn't.
The rage comics and doge were by far the worst memes popped out. Advice Dog really though kickstarted and brought memes mainstream
>>375456
And then there was that Puddi phase moot went through
>>375456
>tfw I unironically like doge
It's just cute
>>375456
>rage comics
TAB made breddy gud comics that everyone here enjoyed. Then, redditors got hold of that one face and beat it to death.
>>372200
>I feel the need to let other people know that I'm a unique little snowflake.
The >We meme is a 2014 thing. The sense that we're all in this together is pretty much gone now.
