How come 4chan became full of SJWs latly?
We used to be a pretty cool and unique place, but we're just like the rest of the internet.
4vhan used to be like a home for me where people could voice their feelings and opinions honestly and without fear of becoming social outcasts.
But now people just keep telling each other to go back to /pol/ everytime they disagree with you, with the result that you have this political correct mindset, where certain ideas are off limits for expression, spreading and dominating more and more boards.
>>367547
It's been like that for years
>>367547
>But now people just keep telling each other to go back to /pol/ everytime they disagree with you,
Because people are sick of /pol/ being outside of fucking /pol/. Most people don't care about everything being political or stuff turning into an entire shitfest because someone said something even slightly political or shit. GG was the tipping point for most people and they want the shit gone
It's been like that for years anyway, you're just retarded
/pol/ became furry tiers of obnoxious in other boards, particularly /tv/ and /v/
it's not exactly the political standpoint as much as the whole crazy conspiracy shitting that goes with it
/pol/ thinks /pol/ is better than you and isn't afraid to let you know it even in other boards.
It's kind of like how /a/ thinks /a/ is better than you, which is still obnoxious, but at least they mostly keep their retarded opinions to inside /a/.
>>367547
I even tell people I agree with politically to go back to /pol/ when they're on boards not for that shit, because I know that what they're doing is just trying to start shit with inflammatory bait or discuss political issues that don't belong.
Also, not agreeing with /pol/ doesn't mean that you're an SJW.
Reminder /pol/ is always right
$chan was posing too much of a threat to the future of the safe politically correct commercial internet and had to be nerfed by butthurt moralfags.
>>367547
It is self evident that 4chan is for everyone, that's why.
You can argue that it was "meant for X" but in the end there is no statement on the site about being for a particular community, and moot didn't seem to mind adding normalfag boards.
>>367547
The type of outcast that 4chan catered to was people who watched anime, read comics, and played video games (before video games were mainstream). Nerds and geeks, not extremists and bigots. We were always pretty apolitical, which is why Anonymous and later, Gamergate was kicked off the site.
4chan hasn't become full of SJWs. It's become full of unironic right-wing bigots and neo-nazis. This would be tolerable if they could keep their shit to their own board. When they try to infect every other board with their bile, thus turning everything into a hatefest instead of an actual hobby discussion board, that's where the problem is. /pol/acks are literally modern furries.
>SJWs get loud and obnoxious, and become more influential in culture
>cultural zeitgeist of people paying attention swings right
>people not paying attention think it's an invasion by a boogeyman
>invite in people who oppose the boogeyman.
That's all it is. There is no /pol/ invasion. It's purely a natural political swing. Most of you are too young to remember that this happens every major election cycle. This time it's at a fever pitch due to lots of events happening internationally, but its still a natural reaction.
>>367621
This is a load of revisionist history and you know it. The only reason they were kicked off was because moot got scared of legal action, and GG was due to him personally knowing some of the people involved.
4chan was never apolitical. Go look at archives of the old days.
>>367547
>muh sjw
Just fuck off to 8gag.
sage
>>367547
2007 brought the normalfags in. SJWs follow normalfags.
it's simple. there's a growing and coming up new generation, basically a bunch of pseudo intellectual faggots, formatted under a highly socialist - liberal ideology, brainwashed by the Ellen show, gender-confused, androgynous-enabled, and addicted to all kind of social media, stuck with a smartphone all the time, getting shilled, and being blind consumers.
they aren't rebels. they are pro-system, and they are spreading ,since Anonymous, ED, the Internet Hate Machine is no more, the absence of a natural predator allowed them to grow and spread their cancerous ideology.
This is horribly analogue to fascism. This is what has nearly destroyed Anonymous.
They are the ones attacking Gamergaters, they are calling those who were in Chanology intolerant against religions, they are the ones calling Anonymous antisemites for exposing the new world order...
That makes me vomit.
As I spoke about it on /mlp/, if were back a few years ago, there would not be dramawhores like Purple Tinker or Osakajack, they'd all get BTFO like a fucking F40PH.
it's time to grow a fucking pair, and fight their ideology before it's too late.
>>367664
Can you read? No one cares for ANY political discussions outside of /pol/ unless you are a 24/7 triggered /pol/tard that just NEEDS to have the whole world know how underaged and uneducated your opinion is. If we cared then we would be out there being politically active in real life in our local scenes where it matters.
>>367665
"release the kraken" - anonymous
Now stop shitting everywhere.
>>367676
When people like you finally realize that those people are not actually from /pol/, they're from the internet at large and exist in all walks of life, and that /pol/ is the only thing keeping those people from posting on your favorite boards 24/7, then you will be making progress.
>>367673
>Says the nigger who acts as cancerous as patachu.
A lot of people on 4chan are just here for entertainment and they are smart enough not to fall for everything kikes put in front of them , the fact that you are saying "Internet hate machine is no more." is a piece of evidence that proves you are being over dramatic.
Even fucking /mlp/ downloads the episodes using Torrents just like how the rest of the site get their own content and warez.
And by being a fucking attention whoring tripfag you are just craving some (You)s.
/mlp/ is not one person , don't mix two completely different things together.
As for social justice faggots : Their movement existed for a very long time but instead of trying to decriminalize things like homosexuality they are now trying to normalize it and they act in a much more rabid way than before.
People should stop doompauling , libtards have been on this website since a decade ago , take old /co/ as example , they were the only retards to use terms like "misogynist" or "sexist" frequently and unironically even in fucking 2006.
>>367676
>the grown adult who obsesses over japanese children's cartoons says the /pol/ userbase is underaged and uneducated.
How quaint.
>>367669
Return to Krautchan.
>>367547
>But now people just keep telling each other to go back to /pol/ everytime they disagree with you, with the result that you have this political correct mindset, where certain ideas are off limits for expression, spreading and dominating more and more boards.
Most of the time when /pol/ pops up they're trying to derail a thread, or using the board's topic as a thin cover for their political opinions. (See the African foods thread on /ck/.)
>>367673
>they are calling those who were in Chanology intolerant against religions
Chanology was true cancerous bullshit. Why not target Islam or even better, Jehovas witnesses?
I never understood chanology. SJW-crap. By the way, the term SJW wasn't used back then, they were called moralfags if I remember correctly.
ITT people who think every poster who makes a racist comment is "from /pol/".
>>367690
>Can't refute his argument
>Calls him a tripfag
>Thinks he's gonna get away with it
Nice ad-hominem by the way.
>A lot of people on 4chan are just here for entertainment and they are smart enough not to fall for everything kikes put in front of them
I'd post screencaps that proves the opposite but I don't feel like ruining it for you.
Everything is fine, right? It's just a few newfags of course.
>>367720
It happened because they tried to censor people with copyright claims, same as Quinn.
>>367676
the problem in our regime is how political decisions and ideologies are everywhere, and SJWs ... >>367720 This. Aka the Moralfags a while ago, are actually driven by some agenda. Remember the political climate after te 9/11 being insanely conservative? The same wave happened after Obama's election.
There's an agenda they're pushing in people's throats.
We wanted the separation of the church and state.
We would like the state to be separated from people so we could be free.
>>367673
Pretty much this. It's a natural selection thing, or applied Darwinism. but you know, ponyfags won't make it either.
>>367735
Chanology was 100% pure SJW/moralfag bullshit.
>>367740
During the Chanology years there was a distinction made between the moralfags and the activistfags. When Gamergate came along, there were no moralfags left, all activistfags. It was when the anti-SJWs adopted SJW tactics to the point that they became another kind of SJW themselves.
>>367740
An "SJW" is someone who blogs about "social justice" on their tumblr, and a "moralfag" is the kind of person who would object to giving people epileptic seizures over the Internet.
>>367742
I only remember the term moralfag being used during the chanology era. /b/ was very divided about the chanology issue
What a weird time that was, when you look back.
>>367751
And now /b/ is irrelevant and anons tolerate, nay encourage, activism
>>367673
>How come nobody likes it when I post /pol/?
>BECAUSE THEY'RE A BUNCH OF FASCISTS!!!
...
>>367737
>ponyfags won't make it either.
The ride will end before 2026.
Many of us would adapt and move on from this site and ponyfaggotry as a whole , it is so much easier to be a normalfag.
>>367740
I don't agree. It was the proof that if we stay together, we can do things... Not social justice.
>>367720
>>367742
>>367740
Do you actually know what the Project Chanology was about? it wasn't only about attacking a religion, but an organization and denouncing their involvement, political and mediatic influence. That's what it was about. Read about it elsewhere than reviewed - and - corrected crap
we could - should have continued. gone further and expose the true puppetmasters who owns the world, at least. We already did a lot but no one is listening. Even this thread sadly makes me understand that.
>>367690
>Calling me a Patachu
Nice damage control. But you're right I'm too old for this bullshit. 4chan became popular and newbie friendly. Now therre are underage people making the rules. Do I sound like Patachu? Everyone is saying that, you're just pointing at the fact I have a tripcode, I will keep it, but I know you know we're on the same boat and both know how fucked up things are, today, anon.
Oh you can call me a nigger horsefucker all you want, go ahead! I don't give a fuck, I'm not your enemy. Even the usual cringeworthly anonymous hax0rz or the /pol/tards aren't your biggest problem, Anon.
Think about it.
>>367764
>it wasn't only about attacking a religion, but an organization and denouncing their involvement, political and mediatic influence.
Go back to /r/anonymous, Gregg. It was about the lulz and little else.
>>367547
>calls other people nigger outside of /b/
>"waah go away sjws!"
Epic.
>>367731
>Can't refute his argument
Read what I said to him:
>The fact that you are saying "Internet hate machine is no more." is a piece of evidence that proves you are being over dramatic.
>>367764
The only thing I have against you is that you supported anthro shit in /mlp/ but that doesn't matter since we now have /trash/.
Back to the argument at hand:
>4chan became popular and newbie friendly.
I can agree on this , it took the website from October 2003 till august 2012 to reach 1st billionth post then it took it only till October 25 2015 to reach 2nd billionth post.
>Oh you can call me a nigger horsefucker all you want, go ahead! I don't give a fuck, I'm not your enemy. Even the usual cringeworthly anonymous hax0rz or the /pol/tards aren't your biggest problem, Anon. Think about it.
I know that Tumblrfaggots are a huge problem but remember rule 19 : "The more you hate it the stronger it gets."
We need to use a non-conventional method to fight with those fagets they are too fucking stubborn and narrow minded.
>>367771
You seem to know nothing about 4chan culture , you don't even have to be black to be called a nigger on 4chan you just have to act like an uneducated fuck just like how you are acting now.
Back in 06 /b/ got upset that rules against raids became heavily enforced and because of that they raided every single board on 4chan and after that every board became /b/ with a different theme except maybe just maybe /c/.
>>367766
>Go back to /r/anonymous, Gregg. It was about the lulz and little else.
Nope , it was about 'doing something big' , it happened in summer 2008 in a /b/ thread then ED supported it and after a while it attracted a shit load of moralfags and 'hacktivists'. (think script kiddies because non of those retards had the decency to be even comparable to the likes of weev and Cult of the dead cow)
It has become counter-culture to say 'lulz' , only EDiots and newfags use that say lelz instead.
>>367764
>it wasn't only about attacking a religion, but an organization and denouncing their involvement, political and mediatic influence
This sounds just like moralfaggotry and SJW-crap. Activist nonsense. Don't pretend like it's something else.
This is something that doesn't belong on 4chan.
Also, I'm surprised noone has accused me of being a CoS-shill yet.
The paranoia about that used to be enormous.
>>367780
>Back in 06
That was 9 years ago, almost 10. It's 2015 now on the edge of 2016. 4chan today has rules, and calling others nigger without actually contributing to a topic outside of /b/ is reason enough to get banned, and rightfully so, because there's absolutely nothing funny, intelligent, authentic, internet-cultural or positive about post content like that.
It has been like this for years outside of /b/, so I can tell you never actually set much foot outside of /b/ except to do one of your "le raids xD", where you likely got banned for breaking global rules.
Either read the rules and follow them, or stay on /b/, lad.
>>367673
>they aren't rebels. they are pro-system,
>This is horribly analogue to fascism.
I remember my teenage years where I used to protest against Bush, supported Gay Pride and wore a Che Guevara shirt.
Anon showed me how things were kind of different. I never wanted to believe it. I hated it. The taste of the red pill made me see the reality of the world, and why there are still beautiful things and amazing people who fight this retarded society that destroys individualism or freedom of thought.
But I'm not happy, and we won't make it Anon. I feel too much of an outcast, and can't handle being made fun of by people around me for my opinions, I don't live in some redneck country.
I want to give up, I'm tired of fighting, i would become a hipster, become that new normal, spend time with faggots and their iPhone on Starbucks, stop thinking, stop trying to find the truth about who controls the world, what's Israel doing, and the cause of all the globalized crap we're into.
I'm about to vote Hilary and follow the system, and just stop thinking about all that. I want to go back in 2006-7 and take the redpill, stay on Deviantart, stick on the dole, be like that cool guy in pink pants and make fun of these lunatic losers who are praising Putin.
Fascists
Nazis
Oldfags
Shitlords
Patriarchists
White
Cisgendered
I hate you
>>367789
>That was 9 years ago, almost 10. It's 2015 now on the edge of 2016. 4chan today has rules, and calling others nigger without actually contributing to a topic outside of /b/ is reason enough to get banned, and rightfully so, because there's absolutely nothing funny, intelligent, authentic, internet-cultural or positive about post content like that.
Culture on 4chan is a heritage that should be kept and the mindset and culture really didn't change that much on boards with large amounts of traffic , old terms and memes got replaced with new ones that's the 'big' difference.
Saying that "We don't have to act like how we were 9 years ago just because time flies by." is a Tumlrish mindset , /b/ was fucking perfect in 2005 before the whole /b/ day and 7chan creation.
>It has been like this for years outside of /b/, so I can tell you never actually set much foot outside of /b/ except to do one of your "le raids xD", where you likely got banned for breaking global rules.
The only boards that act differently compared to /b/ are the ones that have a lot of female users , boards like /cgl/ , /u/ , /c/ , /cm/ , /y/ , /lgbt/ and maybe [r9k] because [r9k] is nothing like what it was in it's first incarnation. (/soc/ is the exact camwhoring bullshit as before on /b/.)
>I can tell you never actually set much foot outside of /b/
Bullshit , /mlp/ is my home board and I lurk /co/ , /int/ and /v/ and /4ccg/ thread on /vg/ a lot but I mostly never post outside of /trash/ and /mlp/ and /qa/.
>where you likely got banned for breaking global rules.
Ban evasion is as fucking easy as drinking water , but I mostly respect the rules , I only got b& that one time in September 2014 because of idiotic moderation back then and that is why I'm saying people should stop doompauling , things are so much better compared to a year ago but peeps usually don't appreciate good things unless it's taken away from them.
>>367797
>b/ was fucking perfect in 2005 before the whole /b/ day and 7chan creation.
S-shut up, Patachu! We Tumblr now! Let's be social!
...social...
[sobs]
>>367807
Yes
>>367792
Anon had enough of being labelled a /pol/tard and wants to become a SJW now.
>>367797
Anon seems to enjoy /trash/ because his "home board" is now a dumpster for underage leftards and moralfags.
>>367801
Anon has probably lost his mind.
>>367789
This Anon is a true oldfag.
>>367784
Here's Anon as a blue-pilled retard trying to compare activists with SJWs. It's a logical fallacy, but don't fall for it. This is a typical SOCJUS tactic to make you believe you and them are the same.
>>367780
Looks like this Anon who call on other anons about not knowing about 4chan culture certainly have no idea why he's being told to hate >anthro on a >pony board, and claims it's the only thing he's got against...
>>367764
This anon defending himself, but who comes with the name of a pink pony might have joined 4chan in 2010-11 and pretend to be an oldfag. But just says out loud what we're thinking which seems to be the only respectable thing about him.
>>367758
Anon knows exactly how to counter any argument that goes about the burning topic of social justice faggots on 4chan and on the internet. The best way to silence an user being to call him a /pol/fag and then proceed to call all /pol/ racist/fascist/homophobic.
This thread, ladies and gentlemen, and ponies has SJWs in it trying to fuck up with your common sense.
>>367822
>SJW
Define this and explain how that definition applies to those you just labeled.
>>367740
Here's your logical fallacy. Chanology was a protest. Against a cryptic organization that calls itself a religion. An organization that's a bit like a lot of masonic temples, operates on brainwashing, steals money by brainwashing people.
That was the church of scientology. an organization that was influent and had to be exposed. Anon did this.
Chanology also raised the awareness about the sects that are acting like CoS: Grand Orient, Islam too, Zionism also had a whole lot more but hey, mentioning these will make me a /pol/tard right? KKK which also works hand in hand with masonic lodges and zionists. Scientology is more a Holywood branch.
The LGBT is also an organization which can also be assimilated to the same model as the CoS: brainwashing the masses and get the money. Try to do your own fucking research about who created this thing that has everything of a sect.
That is also the case for Apple and their idiotic consumers, just like a lot of corporations operating on the same retarded model:Selling you shit you don't want but people tell you it's good for you. Bayer, Monsanto, Pfeizer, Sanofi, Nestle and all that shit you eat everyday.
I am Anonymous, and I'm doing this for you. You have to wake up, Anon.
>>367830
Gb2888 chan, faggot. Chanology simply infested 4chan with moralfags and normalfags.
>>367829
Social Justice Warriors are people who think they can push an agenda of social justice using slogans written by a bunch of socio-liberal kike ideologists like,
"Black lives matters! White people are always guilty"
"Cis-people are all assholes, transsexual people are normal"
"Freedom of speech is dangerous, censor any right wing opinion!"
"Religion is bad should be banned! (except Islam because multiculturalism is good, and Judaism, cause they have suffered!)"
This is not activism. This is fighting for an idea... but an idea that was first initiated by the government in power, and pushed by the social media, TV and education.
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Social is a fancy word that goes with the time and means it's done along the ideal of socialism, "an ideology so nice and well done it has to be forced" and is hardly incompatible with justice unless it's got the full support of a regime that usually is called social something to re-write laws that define justice. The current politics for most of the EU and US is socialism.
Justice is justice, it is the consequence of common sense for the common good without distinction. Getting the CoS BTFO was true justice, just like there's poetic justice.
Warriors are people who don't want peace, their reason to live is to fuck things up. Divide people and start shit so they are at war with eachother. Between straight and gay people, Males and females, gamers and non-gamers, and so on.
Social. Justice. Warriors.
>>367839
Go to your doctor and share this pertinent information with him
>>367792
>and wore a Che Guevara shirt.
You should have been disqualified from politics for life.
>>367557
Have you ever for a moment thought that those opinions are coming from people who don't go to /pol/ and that you're treating it as a "get out of argument free," card?
>>367593
>not agreeing with /pol/ doesn't mean that you're an SJW.
Similarly, rebuking someone with even vague leftwing sympathies does not garner a "go back to /pol/!"
>>367676
Or maybe it's just people with different opinions stating such? I find /pol/ a repugnant place, but I've been accused of being a /pol/fag numerous times just for arguing against political bullshit that was already in the thread.
Nobody gives a shit about "no politics," rules when their side is the popular one, but it suddenly becomes worth enforcing once that dynamic changes and the reason for that is obvious.
>>367792
> supported Gay Pride and wore a Che Guevara shirt.
The "once a furry" meme also applies to you.
>>367912
He's not wrong though. Simplifying it maybe, but not wrong.
>>367822
>Here's Anon as a blue-pilled retard trying to compare activists with SJWs. It's a logical fallacy, but don't fall for it. This is a typical SOCJUS tactic to make you believe you and them are the same.
Ah, here's the paranoia. But you're supposed to call me a CoS-shill.
>>367830
You get mad when I call you a SJW, then you go on and describe what chanology was really about,.. FIGHTING FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE!
Listen. Noone cares about scientology. They can do whatever the hell they want in their little sect, I don't care, just like I don't care what diaper wearing furries do in their little clubs.
>>367937
>Simplifying it maybe
What is the antecedent to "it"?
>>367948
>you're supposed to call me a CoS-shill
He's using the original definition, which means you're apathetic and have bought into certain SJW rhetoric, not that you're a shill or an SJW yourself. Not that I agree with him, just felt like explaining the difference. Although
>Noone cares about scientology. They can do whatever the hell they want in their little sect
They don't just do shit to themselves though, they fuck with people outside of it and people who leave them. They regularly hire tons of private detectives to blackmail and harass people they don't like.
>>367960
>they fuck with people outside of it and people who leave them
If they get slandered, they sue, like everyone in America prefers to do. Nothing surprising here. People who drop out, well they obviously are mad about that. No surprise.
I just don't care. Tell me why I should care. It's not like they bother people in their homes like Jehovas witnesses do.
>>367967
>It's not like they bother people in their homes like Jehovas witnesses do.
Did you not read the rest of that sentence before you replied? They do bother people in their homes, by hiring PIs to fucking spy on people in their homes, which they later use to blackmail and harass them. They also falsify evidence sometimes if they don't find enough. And that's just what they do to people outside of it. If you honestly think that a Jehovah's witness knocking on your door is worse than that I don't know what to say.
>>367972
>They do bother people in their homes, by hiring PIs to fucking spy on people in their homes, which they later use to blackmail and harass them. They also falsify evidence sometimes if they don't find enough. And that's just what they do to people outside of it.
They're not the only ones doing that (is hiring PIs illegal?) and they probably go after people who slander them anyway.
I don't care. You can persecute them if you like, I don't care about that either, but keep it off 4chan.
ITT: Delusions of grandeur and schizophrenic scribbling.
>>367980
>They're not the only ones doing that
And? It's still harassment and blackmail.
>is hiring PIs illegal
Of course not, doesn't make it any less fucked up. Besides, cults that big are always too litigious to do anything straight up illegal.
>they probably go after people who slander them anyway
Slander implies someone's lying, they harass people who merely state documented facts about the group all the time.
>>367547
It'd be fine if they weren't so obvious about it.
Calling something "degenerate" is my #1 red flag.
>>367994
>Slander implies someone's lying, they harass people who merely state documented facts about the group all the time.
"documented facts" will sometimes anger people. Besides, those "facts" are based on what people who left the cult are saying. Can detractors always be trusted?
Also, try going after muslims next time. They'll chop your head off, something that scientologists wont do.
>>368009
>try going after muslims next time
Muslims don't have anywhere near the same level of influence in this country.
>>367984
This desu
>>368015
But they sure do kill an awful lot of people.
Enough moralfaggotry/Sjw-bullshit for now. I don't care about this and similar nonsense-issues, so why the hell am I even discussing this?
>>368019
>so why the hell am I even discussing this?
Because you do care, just not a lot.
>>367557
>>367593
The problem isn't that /pol/ has been going to other boards, but that hobbies and leisurely activities, like being involved in social media, are becoming politicized. That's kind of what SJW is about.
I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem when moderation appears to take sides. Either strictly ban all politicized conversation outside of /pol/, or don't. But don't just act against one viewpoint.
>>367621
wow, fuck off back to reddit/tumblr/safe space any time
>>368053
I don't like SJWs or Chanology, but disliking Chanology doesn't mean I can't still hate Scientology.
>>368060
True, you can still hate them. it's not like I love Scientology, I just don't care about them.
I personally hate Jehovas witnesses, but I would never support or even like a "Chanhova" movement.
The fact that this is even an argument is proof that the cancer has spread too far across the entire internet. Not just 4chan.
>>367673
>>it's time to grow a fucking pair, and fight their ideology before it's too late.
If you want to do that, fine, do that. But don't fucking do it here. This isn't the place for that and it only shits the place up. Fuck off
4chan is entirely too politically minded these days. In the past it was neutral. People pulled pranks to watch people suffer and laugh at them. It was sadistic hedonism, nothing more.
Project Chanology was the first step away from this old mindset, and coupled with the huge explosion in new posters it was inevitable 4chan would lose its neutrality. It's easy to remain fairly neutral when your group is composed of fringe types, people who don't fit in anywhere else. The more people you bring in the less fringe the group becomes, it eventually starts to reflect the general demographics of whatever age group or nationality its makeup is.
For 4chan, that age group is mostly high school and undergrad students in the English-speaking world, who are overwhelmingly white and progressive liberals. Basically the kind of people who agree with most of what SJWs say, but might object to some parts of their platform. They use 4chan to complain since they can't do it anywhere else.
The on the other end of the spectrum you have /pol/. On the surface, it might seem like /pol/ is the "real 4chan" since it's anti-censorship, anti-PC, but that's not really the case either. /pol/ wouldn't have existed on 4chan pre-2007 because the users would have found it abhorrent. Internet culture changed though, and 4chan changed, and now it's necessary to have a strong counter-culture bastion on the site to keep out PC police.
>>368079
I say delete it all and start over.
>Everyone in this thread is just reminiscing about le good old days of when le /b/ was le good
>The whole SJW vs /pol/ argument seems to have petered out into nothing
If you're the sort of person who believes feminism and race relations belong in every single discussion, to the exclusion of the actual original topic, then it doesn't matter whether you are in favour or against. You are cancer and should be removed. And if "gb2/pol/" posts trigger your jimmies so hard that you have to start multiple threads to complain about it, well, now you know how it feels not to have your cishet white male privilege :^) . If someone says, "Hey, here's a fun YouTube video of a Japanese song parody", then replies to that post saying "kill all gays and negros otherwise u r bluepill goy" are just as awful and pointless as the insufferable posts you see on the rest of the Internet which would reply to the same post with, "But what does this mean for feminism and rape culture?" Fuck off, all of you. Literally kill yourselves. I come to 4chan to escape that shit. If I wanted people being po-faced and totally serious about their oh-so-important opinions, I'd go to Reddit, and I refuse to go to Reddit.
>>367749
This nigger is correct, and should be lauded for his insight.
>>368093
>I come to 4chan to escape
wrong site
>I refuse to go to Reddit
reconsider
>>368103
No, I think he's got it right.
>>367673
Sam Hyde, is that you?
>>368053
it's just like saying the French nationalists during the WW2 should have joined the National Socialists instead of fighting them.
Nah, just seems like you have a congitive dissonance Anon. OR you are a SJW trying to imply Anonymous, the big Anonymous who has emerged out from /b/ a decade ago shares the same ideals and philosophy as social justice warriors, they are literally the enemies of Anonymous.
They hate free speech
They hate your internet culture supposedly based on free speech and derision
They support the government AND corporations no matter what
They brainwash the masses after finding a bigot
They target groups of people, especially white, straight males. (I'm a nigra myself but cis straight... Hmm, I won't wait for them to be done with whites to be the next.)
They jump on every occasion to appear like the good guys. Every time a kid gets shot "Black lives matters! Look at us! You all are to be blamed for that maniac WHITE cop!"
They're pushing some transgender-gendersnowflake agenda too, applauses whenever a brainwashed enough kid comes out as the opposite "assigned gender by the society"
They target random innocent individuals but never fight the real causes of the society's problem, because they support the status quo of this system.
They are social justice warriors. They are not Anonymous. They are not activists, they are a bunch of fascists to deal with. Stop fucking spreading your logical fallacy.
>>368357
oh my god nobody cares this is just an anime site
>>368359
Maye you don't want to care because this is just plain disturbing to know how deep the tranny's hole goes. Even if you don't, i have the right to discuss this issue on its adequate thread, and clarify some things a bunch of actual socjus are spreading here. This can't be a simple moron comparing CoS or whatever raid with social justice.
>>367673
>Diamond Tiara
I have info on them being linked to a MLP/Brony GGer-RW profile on Twitter.
Account can be flagged for harassment
https://twitter.com/tiarannosaur
Also they got a link to FA, I know a mod there who will easily deal with them.
Something we should do from here...
>>368357
Right we tried to make you gain some IQ points asshole!
Chanology was anonymous attacking a cult and opposite the right to express a religion, that was indeed not social justice, but acting like nazis. Why not attacking the most dangerous religion? Like Christianity? Intolerance, bigotry and wars is what I am opposed to.
Yes I am an horrible *social justice warrior*, but you are a bunch of insufferable assholes.
>>368381
Whoa! WOW! Nice finding Anon!
Why aren't they attacking them instead of whining about social justice warriors? People like that are our common enemy: Furry right-wing bigots with a pink pony avatar.
*If you are a /pol/itical kind of guy, you might count them as degenerates.
*If you are a brony or a furry, you know you have to dissociate yourself from toxic members like this.
>>367984
pretty much this
>>368357
>Anita Sarkeesian is a "true" SJW
Wrong. She's just a false flagger.
>>368381
Dude are you trolling or just legimately retarded, I can't quite figure it out.
>>368357
Off topic here, but what's the real cause of society's problems? if SJWs aren't looking at the right problems here.
>>368493
I think it's the idiocracy that's being built by the "such-progressive" movement, and socio-liberal politics worldwide. SJWs are just a consequence of this.
For more, seriously, ask this on /pol/. Yes, do this. Stop thinking /pol/ is full of dumbasses. You're right asking yourself this question, and there are answers.
This is just not the right place.
>>>/g/thread/51680468
Full of socjus.
>>368524
NOTHING FOUND.
>>368524
>>>/g/51680468
here ya go friend
>>368523
I don't think anyone who unironically uses words like "idiocracy" is smart enough to answer such a question anyways.
>>367673
>it's time to grow a fucking pair, and fight their ideology before it's too late.
Shitting up 4chan isn't "fighting" for anything. Maybe try reddit instead, you would reach a far greater audience with your psychotic ramblings there.
>>367587
If you had half a brain, you'd realize that all of the "SJW"/gender/race crap bledover from fucking /v/, because they have a hardon for such a thing.
More cartoon stuff bleed over also due to /v/. You'd see this started mostly in 2014; more accidental /v/ crossposting, more intentional crossposting, more "what if __ was a movie" or "warcraft/etc" that are coming up.
/sp/ moved in here in 2012; as early as 2011ish due to Big Brother threads "outlawed" due to "poor mean /sp/ mods" that numerous posted have admitted (back then, not now, before revisionist history newfriends attempt to dissuade), and never left. They use memes to the extreme;, this is their Facebook, they don't care if they piss and shit in the same place they eat.
That's why you see half of this board is spam, also the moderation simply cannot keep up with the massive amount of spam unless you actually send reports. Even then, there seems to be some sort of favoritism with this "fourth round" of moderation (for /tv/, since its inception). They delete shit that should be deleted asap (cunny shit, shrek/just/bane [which took forever for them to get on too, the latter memes]), but some things take an awfully long time to delete, like /sp/ blacked threads.
Stay new
>>368357
Are you retarded?
If you dislike SJWs, then you can not like Chanology! It's really simple, and I don't know how you can fail to understand that.
Attacking scientology means you are a social justice warrior and a moralfag
>>368493
People judging others as groups rather than individuals. One black guy commits a crime, therefore all black guys commit crimes. One white guy is racist, therefore all white guys are racist. You've never met a woman who can throw, therefore let's ban women from throwing things. Everyone wants to hold the secrets to society, so they can predict what's going to happen in advance and feel like a smartypants (also, because discomfort around unpredictable stimuli is a good indicator of autism, and autists are everywhere). The way they do this is to remove individual differences and dismiss external factors that are of tremendous importance to the individuals concerned. I rabidly despise SJWs personally, and yet I never seem to offend anyone. I don't want to watch some faggy tranny agenda bullshit on TV, and yet if I meet a person who's had a sex change, I will treat them like a person. But if you ask me how I feel about otherkins I will get rustled, identical in every way to some redneck gaybasher apart from the bit where I don't actually go round attacking people. So the SJWs assume I'm one of the bad guys, because in some ways I resemble the bad guys. I never interact with Men's Rights fags, but if I did, they would also assume I was the enemy when I disagreed with them, but if I knew one in real life, I would patiently listen to his opinions, engage him with respect, and concede points where he's actually right about something. The Internet generally discourages that from happening, and reduces everyone to their most rabid, frothing stereotypes.
Also, the political right has been a mockery for nearly 15 years. Michael Moore was pointing this shit out when most of us were children or teenagers. Most right-wing people aren't Fox News racists, but they're always depicted as such, and it's only been in the last 3-4 years that the political left has caught up in looking and sounding completely assfuck retarded.
>>367547
You can't even have a star wars movie come out without retards crying about it and measuring skulls and posting kek fetish stuff and proclaiming it's the end of white people.
if you see everyone else as an sjw, you've got to the point where you completely bought into memes and a one sided worldview without even doing an ounce of thinking for yourself.
you've gone full retard and people get sick of it. or you're being trolled since it's easy as fuck to troll stormfags.
>>368885
SJW movement has existed since at least 50 years, before 4chan, before fucking internet. There was a french /pol/ack that explained the phenomenon sometime ago.
Political Threads are contained on /pol/ because it is their place
Pone threads are contained on /mlp/ because it is their place (and barneyfag)
/lgbt/ is not a containment board for sjw, that would be /pol/.
(No homo, but when I lurked /lgbt/ the level of the conversation was pretty high.)
>>368787
I knew I'd be disappointed about star wars ever since I watched the latest star trek movie, which was made by the same director. He basically turned something fun into just another generic action movie that just so happens to be set in the star trek universe.
Sure the star wars movies are a lot closer to that style which would suit him more, but it's still looking to be just another generic action. And I think this makes some people irritated without getting so far as to being able to reason about why they dislike it, so they jump at small obvious things that people like to complain about.
Either that or they are just mindlessly memeing. I haven't actually come across and read many discussions about star wars here.
>>368899
>/lgbt/ is not a containment board for sjw, that would be /pol/.
>(No homo, but when I lurked /lgbt/ the level of the conversation was pretty high.)
>>368899
Anybody using the label SJW for anything that existed before the internet is not someone you should trust.
>>368040
This. The left has put politics into so many ordinary things that everything is now linked to politics. Video games are very affected by this which is why /v/ has gotten so political in the past year.
>>367621
>The type of outcast that 4chan catered to was people who watched anime, read comics, and played video games (before video games were mainstream). Nerds and geeks, not extremists and bigots.
nice history revisionism faggot, since /b/ became le anonymous 4chan has always been contrarian to whatever was morally correct, back then it was taboo to hate soldiers and religion today it is taboo to hate gays and atheists thus 4chan changed to reflect that
>>368040
>>368933
Holy shit, this.
Reposting this regarding politics on /v/, specifically how mods were banning discussion of DoA being blocked for release in the west because the devs were afraid of SJWs:
>>362693
>The "not vidya" argument has always been a smokescreen to shout down discussion of issues within the game industry.
>Things that affect the games industry, which includes pricing, digital distribution models, the press, statements by developers, and yes, sometimes the attitudes of the public towards the industry are all relevant.
>Just like film, what goes into a game is not just what goes onto the disk. It's affected by the attitudes and climate that surround its development. You cannot discuss art in a vacuum without context, and industry chat is absolutely part of that context.
>Case in point: Half-Life 2's original release being delayed and changed due to source leaks, or VtM's development cycle troubles, or any of the Ninja Theory writer interviews from Enslaved's dev cycle and how they related to the DmC fiasco. Or hell, ALL of Daikatana or DNF's dev cycle, which is honestly more interesting than the games themselves.
>All of that is inarguably part of how those games were developed, and omitting them from the discussion means you are only getting fractional understanding of how those games were made.
>A game being censored, and WHY it is censored, IS a part of that. Nobody banned discussion of Devil's Third or Fatal Frame being blocked for release by NoA. The only difference is that this time the studio used the magic word to force a bunch of internet loudmouths to circle the wagons for protection.
>>368933
desu It would be really interesting to have discussions on politics and themes in media,(not just video games) but there's no way to sustain such topics on 4chan without descending into constant memes.
Sm h t bh f am
>>369144
Don't bother with /his/, merely asking about anything related to politics and even more so right wing politics gets you banned from there. The mods are acting so vigilant in trying to keep it from being /pol/ 2.0 that they accidentally made /leftypol/
The "SJW"s are mostly faggots from Neogaf who try and impose their anti Japanese anime games on everyone. Reddit's on there just to shitpost. 4chan is a mix bag, some boards are worse than others.
But a change has to happen. moot wanted this place to go back to being anime-centric once again, but that's going to be damn hard to do. Right now a lot has got to get fixed. From adding Film and Celebrity containment boards, as well as a fan fiction and a possible Hunger Games/Roleplay board, and of course the infamous argument of splitting /v/ into an eastern and western gaming board.
Splits and containment's may be the only thing we can do now
>>369178
Well /lit/ is pretty much /leftypol/ lite. It just so happens that right wingers can't discuss critical theory in a civilized manner for some reason.
>>369180
>>Splits and containment's may be the only thing we can do now
There are tons of ways to fix problems, without needing to resort to pointless boards
>>369187
that's because critical theory is jew shit
>>367547
>But now people just keep telling each other to go back to /pol/ everytime they disagree with you, with the result that you have this political correct mindset, where certain ideas are off limits for expression, spreading and dominating more and more boards.
Don't get me wrong, half of the mods are raging SJWs and colossal faggots. And the users are little sissy pussies who want to cry any time someone says shit that hurts their feelings. I get you there, but this claim is bullshit. You act like this is anything new on 4chan. 4chan has always had a wide variety of opinions and viewpoints. Before this, it was "go back to /b/" and other shit any time someone said shit you didn't like. It was always this way and likely always will be this way.
And nothing is off limits for expression except maybe GG. But even then, talk about it all you want. What's a mod gonna do, ban you? Proxy it up or just change your IP and 5 seconds later you're back. Bans are impotent hence why the most they ever do is 30 days anymore and any permabans eventually get removed. So, you're not being held back. Even if we only took mods straight from Tumblr, and Reddit and any other site full of the biggest fags, you'd still be able to tell the mods to piss off and suck a dick and post about what you want because of how useless bans really are. So, don't worry. The age old adage of mods = fags ensures the mods will always be far too limp wristed to do much of anything that requires coming out of IRC where their sycophants suck their cocks.
tl;dr Always was this way, newfag. P.S. Mods are fags.
>>368910
Not yet, I needed to red btw
>>368911
Arguably no one on 4chan is to be trusted.
SJW is a new label, but they used to be called vanguard socialist or new left.
>>369213
Typical /pol/ shitpost.
/his/ is not leftypol from my point of view. And political discussion on media boards really get called for memes, just as the average /pol/ discussion.
>>368040
But in fact, that's because the left is not very tolerant to criticism and debate, and they mostly look for circlejerks.
Their foundation is the dogma lay down by Marx interpreted as the philosopher du jour.
But is not necessarily a problem exclusive of the left. For example there is a mod that is an empowered weeb that does not respect the people of their board on /d/. That is something I wouldn't call SJW, but is annoying as hell.
>>367547
4chan is part of the internet and the antithesis of Tumblr, so we have to live with it, but the Anonymous name protect us from be outcasts.
