I've become really disappointed with the quality of moderation on /vp/ in the past eight or nine months. Day after day the board is getting flooded with all kinds of garbage and not only do the janitors there rarely ever delete anything but they ban people all the time for reporting legitimate shitposting like spamming/flooding, ban evasion, porn threads, one phone user that makes 30 or 40 threads complaining about Pokemon fans being furries, and subtle/blatant trolling.
If you've borne witness to this as I have, post here and discuss what can be done to improve the sad state of moderation on /vp/. My thought is, more jannies for /vp/ including jannies who actually understand who the repeat offenders are and who are willing to go the extra mile to clean up shitposts.
>please babysit our board and give us special treatment
>>364730
If you're not from /vp/ and haven't been there every day for years now, then kindly fuck off.
>>364730
/vp/ is a battleground. See for yourself. These are very valid complaints.
>people having different opinions than me
>"waaah why aren't they all getting banned ;_;"
>>364732
I'm just providing a tl;dr version.
>>364736
I don't think you quite understand. /vp/ doesn't get special treatment. It gets virtually no treatment of any kind whatsoever except the once-a-day purge of a few shitposts here and there and maybe a thrice-a-day purge of porn threads.
We don't want special treatment. We just want normal treatment. We just want decent moderation. The board sometimes goes a whole day or two days without anyone checking in, and we just get flooded with crap. The anime doscission threads are especially victimized by spammers, they have like a dozen or more distinct shitposters that show up almost every day and spam the anime discussion thread for like twelve hours a day. It's almost impossible to have any sort of discussion there now because the thread is soaking in shitposts.
The anime threads used to be very popular, but now they're overrun by shitposting, and you're more likely to get banned for reporting /b/-tier garbage or porn or trolling or spamming/flooding than the jannies are to actually delete any of it.
>>364740
Holy shit, meant to say DISCUSSION threads.
>>364735
Yeah, because posting 50 furry porn threads over three hours without getting any of them deleted or posting the exact same ten "Pokegirl tiers" charts in virtually every anime discussion thread is "having a different opinion".
I love how /vp/ has constant genwar threads and the mods don't do shit about them even though genwars are against the rules.
>>364740
Pretty much this, but without the pomp and circumstance. There are a lot of career shitposters on /vp/ that ban evade and shit up every single legitimate thread. There's one posting porn at the moment.
The bit about getting banned yourself for reporting spam is especially fucked up. The proper way to deal with this shit doesn't cut it anymore. Shitposters outnumber actual posters because the lack of moderation has turned /vp/ into a fucking cesspool haven for them.
bumping thread for attention
OP is right, /vp/ is a complete mess it gets raided daily by shitposters dumping
/b/ tier garbage
frogposting
porn
furry porn
scat
also a shitload of people trying to shill their Youtube channels
>>364745
>>364752
/vp/ also has this one guy that spends 15 hours a day in the anime discussion thread posting the same troll posts over and over again alleging that a romantic subplot (called "Amourshipping") involving Ash Ketchum and Serena is supposedly dying or not progressing. Serena has a canon crush on Ash, and Ash himself (though not officially in love with her by any means) has shown increasing signs of care/concern/affection for her as the series has progressed (though he is NOT confirmed to have a crush on her). The subplot has affected the development of both characters in the series in various ways, but especially in ways that involve the two characters' goals. This is not some dumb headcanon, this is what is actually happening. It's cute, and it's quite popular with those who watch the anime. Even among those who aren't huge fans of it — and I'm not a huge fan of it by any means — there's no denying that the subplot exists thanks to all the marketing/promo materials promoting Serena's crush on Ash.
However, this one guy spends a dozen hours every day trying to find ways to piss off people who really enjoy the subplot. He feels the need to "remind" people that "Amour has not progressed," or making up shit about how "Serena will fall out of love with Ash and into love with some other guy because the setup is there/because Ash isn't allowed to have a girlfriend because I say so/because reasons ," or spamming the same five or six images as "evidence" that Amour is making "no progress."
His goal is to bait people into replying to him repeatedly, derailing the anime discussion threads he targets. When people don't reply to him, guess what he does? He replies to himself repeatedly instead. It's so blatantly recognizable based on the posting style, the spelling/punctuation/syntax he uses, among other things. Everyone and their mother on /vp/ knows it's one guy doing it, but guess what? The jannies don't care, and they ban anyone who reports the spam.
>>364755
I can see why he does already.
>>364755
Did you have to write all that bullshit?
>>364755
That guy sounds like a riot actually
>>364755
Oh god. The hell man. That wasn't needed. I mean, yeah, you had to say the shiposter does that stuff but no need to tell stuff about the anime itself.
Man, that's..sad. And I'm on your side.
>>364759
I bet you are the first one to reply to obvious bait
>>364758
>>364756
We've had this shitposter shitting up /vp/ for a year now. If you were there, you'd be just as upset. I don't even give a shit about the Amour subplot, I'm just tired of seeing the same shitter flooding the anime threads with this crap hour after hour and making it impossible to have a decent conversation about anything in the anime.
>>364759
Sure, he's literally a riot if your goal is to burn down all of /vp/ and especially the anime threads.
>>364761
You seriously think Hiro and the moderation team watch the anime? I'm doing this so the mods will understand what I'm talking about, man.
This isn't /vp/, you can't assume that everyone on this segment of 4chan is going to instantly know who Serena is. Yeah, if I posted this on /vp/ itself you could shit on me all you wanted for being an autist, but this isn't /vp/.
The problem stems from what's pretty much a "drought" of anything involving a new game (yeah, it's happened before.) It just feels like the brewing of the perfect (shit)storm.
>>364766
That doesn't excuse a total lack of moderation. Hell, /vp/ reopened the janitor applications almost two months ago, and they could have easily added a couple of new jannies. What's come of it? So far, nothing, and I'm willing to bet that's in no small part because the admins/top mods have zero clue about how awful /vp/ has become recently.
Yeah, a new game will probably help at least a bit, but I don't think you can count on its announcement to calm the shitstorm if there's still virtually no moderation on the entire board.
>>364755
Fuck, man.
>>364756
This.
Shit man, I'm from the anime discussion threads too, but you're being such an enormous sperglord that it's discrediting all the valid problems. Sack up.
But seriously, things are bad over there. Pokemon attracts a lot of legitimate autists, and you'll never see a more devoted shitposter than a legitimate autist on a crusade.
Please be patient with us. A lot of /vp/oreons cannot into social graces.
>>364762
Depends if it's interesting or not
>>364765
Then learn how to post, faggot. Frame it in a better perspective so you don't sound like a turboautist trying to write a research paper on the subject.
>>364778
Then why don't you do it? If you have a better way of explaining it, by all means, go ahead. Otherwise, stop bitching.
>>364768
No, no, you misunderstood. I mean that adding to the lack of moderation just adds to it. Sure, a game might calm it down a bit but it still wouldn't be enough. There are times when it essentially is just a second /v/.
>>364780
its worse than /v/, furry porn doesn't sit in the catalogue for hours on /v/
Avidraco
>>364781
It's even worse if the porn is posted inside an existing thread. The /vp/ jannies moderate posts within threads even less often. Sometimes its a day or more. Basically it's a licence for that Ash-Serena shitposter, the Korrina spammers, the Tails scat comic poster, and others to do whatever the fuck they want.
>>364780
>a second /v/
At least /v/ has jannies who are somewhat active. /vp/ doesn't have that "luxury."
>>364790
Need help linking cross posts?
>>>/vp/24741478
>current Pokemon anime discussion thread is overflowing with spam from Korrina pic-dumpers and this one annoying "serena kawaii" pic-dumper
>/vp/ janitors have done almost nothing about it
>>>/vp/24741478
>>364795
Yeah, I remember that. Some newfag people on the board thought that the board had been permanently reduced to a 7 page board, when in fact it was simply just the fact that like three or four dozen furry/antifurry threads popped up and the jannies didn't delete them until hours later.
>>364795
>a day ago
[spoiler]It just happened again four hours ago.[/spoiler]
>>364798
>using spoilers on /qa/
Somebody seems to have forgotten that when /vp/ was first created (known as /tr/, aka the Golden Age of /vp/), it has literally NO moderation. The only things that were deleted were CP and drug threads. Literally EVERYTHING ELSE was allowed at pretty much all times. You think porn spam is bad? TRY HAVING LITERALLY 95/100 THREADS ON THE BOARD BEING NOTHING BUT GARY.
You freaking newfaggots need to stop whining and enjoy actually HAVING a thread without the onslaught of an image dumper dumping Gary pics in your thread.
You can make threads on /qa/ 24/7 about this, but if it's not going to change in literally years worth of time, no amount of threads will solve this. Yeah, you might get the mods to show up for a few hours, even a few days, but they have WAY more priorities to manage, such as deleting illegal content on /b/.
tl;dr: grow up.
>>364798
That was a porn dump.
>>364801
And here, we have one of /vp/'s most devoted shitposters, an [s4s]fag who specializes in "5 is the amour number" and "Amour GETs" shitposting. Also samefags his own GETs.
Basically, take this shitposter's word as seriously as you would the word of a snake-oil salesman trying to sell you a computer running on Vista.
>>364801
This would explain why /b/ has been moving into /vp/.
>>364801
Oh, and given that your 55555/Amour GET posts are some of the few posts that the mods DO delete from /vp/, I don't think you have any right to talk.
>>364806
>>364809
Right here, we have a fine example of a denizen of /vp/ literally losing his mind to the point that no only does he call every post he sees amour GET/Scott/longhair-fag but also spends hours, literally HOURS, every single day, complaining about them.
Instead of going outside for some fresh air and GETTING A LIFE, he sits in front of a screen and whines ALL DAY on the Internet about...some posters posting in a single thread on a single board on a single website on the Internet.
Yep.
>>364811
that's nice
>>364811
nice dubs bruh :^)
>>364811
>getting a life
>4chan
>>364813
>I'm going to call you an amour getfag over and over again without ever providing any real solutions
>I'm going to demand the mods to ban everybody I hate even though all my posts are also trash
>I'm going to use spoiler tags everywhere because I'm so meta kawaii desu ne~
I don't want to sound like the autist that posted >>364755 but /padt/ really is one of the few places on the internet where actual discussion of the Pokémon Anime can happen. Bulbagarden is dead, Serebii is full of people who complain about everything, and Tumblr is Serebii + people who haven't watched the show since 1999 + SJWs so that's even worse. But right now, actual discussion is all but impossible because the same trolls keep posting the same shit in the thread every day. It's gotten to the point where I've just been giving up and ignoring the thread, and I love discussing things there and seeing the great discussion that can be had there when it's not full of shit. When people who actually want to add to the discussion on a board are being driven away by the amount of trolling going on, there's a legitimate problem with moderation. I applied for being a janitor twice, including the most recent window, and I never heard anything back. It's like mods don't care about /vp/ and don't have any interest in seeing it get better.
I have to agree with the overall sentiment that /vp/ has been hung out to dry in terms of moderation. Consideration from the brass for this matter is certainly needed.
>>364804
I'm the autist that posted that, and the reason that such autism is needed is because that's how bad the situation has gotten on /vp/. Case in point, just look at this thread...the Amour GET spam guy from [s4s] who's invading this thread right now is just one of the many shitposters that the Pokemon anime discussion thread gets hit with on a regular basis. He's one of the few who does get his posts deleted (though he seems to constantly ban-evade), and here he is now shitposting again on /qa/ itself.
>>364822
Maybe if /vp/ wasn't so IMMENSELY AUTISTIC you could make a /padt/ (Pokemon Anime Discussion Thread) and a /paadt/ (Pokemon Anime Amour Discussion Thread), but /vp/ literally FLIPS COMPLETELY THE HELL OUT when there are TWO anime threads going on at once.
>>364825
okay? and your point is...?
>>364826
Thanks so much, [s4s]fag, for making the case for /vp/'s lack of moderation so saliently. You may be doing a better job of it than we are here.
>>364829
>>364826
I never mentioned any ships, faggot. I would rather discuss Zygarde and recent episode subs there. If I wanted to talk about Amour, I'd make a separate thread or I'd go to Tumblr.
>>364833
Stop replying to the [s4s]fag.
>>364837
No.
>>364822
>Other sites are shit
Their problem. 4chan is not necessarily a containment place for other sites' rejects. Moreover, /vp/ is not that different in that regard. It's certainly not (and shouldn't be) a hugbox.
>>364822
Problem with /padt/ in the first place is that the kind of people that are involved with Pokemon (that aren't kids), watch the anime nonetheless, and frequent /vp/ and the discussion thread are easy pickings for the baiters and shitposters that prey upon them. Have a point for the other pokemon fansites being kill for anime discussion.
DESU I should just stop following /padt/ and quit 4chan outright, but pic related.
Fun Fact: There's actually a secret /padt/ thread tucked away on a page 7/8/9 on a dead board that we all go to in order to discuss Pokémon.
>>364826
Why would we need a separate board for Amour stuff?
>>364840
There's a difference in discussing when the show fucks up (and it does, pretty predictably) and moving the goalposts so that you can continue to complain about something even when you're proven wrong about something, which happens elsewhere.
Regardless, the fact that other sites are shit shouldn't mean that /vp/ should be more shit with poor moderation, which is the topic at hand here.
>>364844
>board
Reading comprehension yo. Separate thread, not board.
>>364840
Regrettably, 4chan has become something of a containment place for Serebii/Bulbagarden people. Some of Serebii and Bulbagarden's worst posters got banned from those two sites and came to /vp/ after they got their bans because they had nowhere else to go. It's just one small part of the problems facing /vp/, and it's not directly related to /vp/'s moderation issues themselves, but the lack of moderation means that those people can shitpost as much as they want at the expense of genuinely positive posters on /vp/.
>>364844
AMOUR!!!
>>364775
If you keep giving attention to that kind of people, you are just contributing to make it even worse, trust me
>>364841
One of the problems is that there's no general culture for /vp/, and /padt/'s doesn't dictate a general rule about how should shitposting be self-moderated.
Perhaps that should be a step we should take now.
>>364849
That picture warms my heart.
>>364851
Attempts at reporting have gotten people banned and ignoring it is useless when the shitposters responds to themselves. We need moderation that doesn't fuck us for trying to self-moderate.
>>364851
We can't though, since /vp/ is an underage magnet. We will never be able to have a set culture since the constant influx of underage and newfags will just impart their own culture into /vp/.
>>364851
Even if /padt/ did have a "general rule," who would enforce it? The posters themselves can't enforce it, that's for sure. And I suppose you could try asking /vp/'s janitors for help, but there's no way to contact them, and they barely even exist as it is.
The Pokemon anime discussion thread does have some general principles, and by now you'd think the janitors would have at least a rough sense of what is and isn't a shitpost there, but they don't seem to care.
>>364847
You know what I mean, why do we need it separate at all when it's something in the anime, like it or not?
>>364852
Some amourshippers are not bad at all, they just are blamed when a couple shitposters call them out on anything when korrinafags, stalebaiters, Scott, and others screw up the thread
Fucking A, now the shitposters are infesting this /qa/ thread dedicated to complaining about fixing /vp/
MODS for the love of all that is good, see this thread.
For those who don't understand amour, see we this webm.
>>364858
Discussing what happens in the episodes like pic related is one thing. Posting greentext stories and autistic headcanons could move to another thread and not be missed.
>>364864
>>364865
Shitposters these days just look for anything to hate. Amour is a cute thing that many fans appreciate and we'd all love for it to happen, but then here come the tiernofags, korrinafags, pokefags, and geekshipfags.
I think most of the nonsense and shitposting mostly falls back to Amour.
>>364858
Trading is in the games. So are contests. So is catching Pokemon. Does /vp/ have one giant "Pokemon X/Y/OR/AS" metathread to encompass all those aspects of the game? No, they have separate threads.
If amour is encompassing /padt/ to the point where it dominates the discussion, then it is time to make another thread about it. Like I said, though, /padt/'s level of autism is so ridiculous they would rather spam and report the amour thread to hell than ever let it split.
It's a catch 22.
Also...this captcha.......
>>364864
>>364868
Say, [s4s]fag, are you so new to /vp/ that you can't even tell that 90% of Amour "discussion" is one stalebaiting faggot who replies to himself over and over again?
>>364868
>Ash St.
>5th PL W
>Amber Dr.
>>364870
Oh, if only you knew even 1/5th the story...
>>364867
>falls back to Amour
BINGO. I'm a big fan of amour myself and want to see it come to fruition, but the way that some (not all) rabidly defend the ship leaves them wide open to shitposters who get kicks out of pissing off amourshippers by posting stuff about their crack ships.
>>364854
Reporting? That doesn't work nowadays. I personally just report "the one post" (so they take a look at the thread) and hide the rest.
Something along the lines of "setting the example" I had more in mind. You know, psychological counter-terrorism.
>>364875
I'm pretty sure that 99% of us are enjoying every second of this.
>>364880
The guy who posted that image is the Amour GETs guy himself trying to force his stupid shitpost meme. Ignore him.
>>364881
I just deleted my post. Sorry...
>>364876
I don't even bother most of the time anymore. It's not worth it. Each /padt/ thread gets several dozen shitposts in it, sometimes more than 100 shitposts. The system doesn't let you report more than a certain number at a time. Maybe if shitposts were being cleaned up regularly, I'd feel more comfortable reporting them. But since shitposts aren't being cleaned up regularly, there's a self-perpetuating cycle where mountains of shitposts pile up and it becomes increasingly untenable for the jannies to even handle.
My guess is, the jannies show up after being gone for 15 hours, they see how many shitpost reports have piled up in the queue, and they sorta throw up their hands and give up and decide to ban the people who reported the posts instead of actually deleting the shitposts.
And the even sadder thing is: When the jannies do finally show up, it's usually too late, and the damage has already been done (the shitposter has already stopped for a quick break, the thread has already been derailed, etc.).
>>364884
>>364885
Who is the worst shitposter on padt?
>>364867
Except the talk here is more than just that. The whole porn dump that occurred hours ago happened a couple of weeks back and the week before that. The furry one was around a bit before that not to mention some of the other shit that happens in /vp/ as a whole. It's more than just that.
>World War III is about to break out
>NSA spying on everyone
>Trump about to win the Presidency
>Poverty and starvation in America at record levels
>"waaah some f-f-faggots and being faggots in muh p-pokemans thread and i'm too much of a sore butthurt l-l-l-l-LOSER to go elsewhere and think this is v-v-VERY important subject that requires IMMEDIATE ATTENTION as it is causing IRREVERSIBLE DESOLATION to 4chan and its userbase so please halp us ;__;"
Does the truth hurt?
>>364891
Yeah, and then there's the Amour GETs/[s4s] shitposter who's posting in this thread as we speak and is now resorting to posting Gary memes to get attention. Not to mention how many "female dragon" and frogposter threads get made every single day.
While /padt/ is a shining beacon for everything that's wrong with /vp/, we can't really ignore what >>364797 said about the jannies not deleting threads until much much later. All of /vp/ regularly suffers, not just /padt/. I mean, would >>/vp/24741828 remain this long on any other blue board?
>>364885
It's indeed a sorry state of affairs.
Nonetheless, we make with what we do.
>>364893
Shh.
Let the butthurt flow through you.
>>364889
It's between Scott, Longhairfag, and just recently, anti-amourfag.
>>364898
>anti-amourfag
>just recently
He's been there for a year, m8, longer than Scott has been and just as long as longhairfag (if not longer).
>>364899
Yeah, but he only recently achieved Scott/Longhairfag's level of cancer. It was bad before, but after his recent rampages, it's a whole new bag of fish.
>>364907
...you do realize it's all the same person, right?
people in this thread need some serious mental help
>>364889
I don't grow an attachment to the garbage I throw away everyday, anon, why do you?
>>364912
Thanks for bumping the thread lad, we need all the attention we can get.
>All these newfags calling King of GETs "[s4s]fag"
Right now there's been a porn dump on the current /padt/ thread that's gone undeleted for four hours.
>>364728
>legitimate shitposting
Most of it can barely be called shitposting, if you disagree with what someone posted it doesn't make it shitposting. Many people seem to forget that and get mad when they get warnings for their unnecessary reports.
The moderation is fine, stuff like porn pictures or other NSFW stuff gets removed within minutes.
>>364970
>moderation is fine
>porn deleted within minutes
Is this nigger serious?
>>364970
Ah, and here we have longhairfag, another one of /padt/'s veteran shitposters who avatarfags with random images of Serena, Dawn and Korrina and constantly goes on off-topic rants about how the evil feminists are ruining girls by promoting short hair.
Oh, and he reposts the same "Pokegirl tiers" chart(s) at the start of virtually every single Pokemon anime thread even though it has nothing to do with the anime itself and even though it merely serves to start the Pokegirl version of genwars.
>>364975
Why did they make it possible to link to entire boards? That is literally never going to be used except as a pitiful "insult". They should change it so you can only link to specific threads and if you don't the link gets filtered to "I'm an idiot."
>>364976
Just ignore the longhairfag, he's one of the shitposters who regularly victimize the Pokemon anime threads.
The simple fact that porn threads, frog threads, trolls, flames and reposts/spam routinely go hours without being deleted (and sometimes are never deleted) immediately renders most of what he's saying dead wrong anyway (and the rest of what he's saying not credible).
There was just a porn raid on /vp/ earlier today and a separate porn dump hit the anime thread a little while ago, and it took four hours for the mods to clean those up (and meanwhile they left several other shitposts completely untouched).
>>364983
Sorry anon I didn't know
>>364978
>Oh, and he reposts the same "Pokegirl tiers" chart(s) at the start of virtually every single Pokemon anime thread even though it has nothing to do with the anime itself and even though it merely serves to start the Pokegirl version of genwars.
He actually does this in pretty much every Pokegirl thread and in other boards.
People over 16 play Pokémon?
>>365006
You'd be better off asking how many underage b& don't play.
Submit feedback asking the moderation staff to pick up some (more?) janitors for /vp/.
>>365008
>Pokémon is a mature game for adults
>>365016
Just like CoD.
No, but seriously. Adults play it.
>shitposter in /padt/ already making a new thread, complete with a baiting image
>>364755
So disregarding this turboautist's sperging, that shitposter is indeed an issue.
His modus operandi is to post a controversial/ill-researched/inaccurate/whatever statement, reply to himself with a rebuttal of his own post pretending to be someone else, reply to that rebuttal pretending to be the first guy again, then keep this pretense conversation going in hopes of some random idiots taking the bait and joining in. It may be an amusing display of sad autism the first time you see it, but this guy can literally be doing this or 10+ hours every single day, more or less posting the exact same posts over and over to keep a circular "argument going". The subject he talks about is irrelevant, the point is that this guy is spamming the same shitposts over and over in a blatant attempt at drowning out any other posts. When 80% of the posts in a thread are either a samefag fishing for replies while pretending to hold a conversation OR replies from people taking the bait, there's a legitimate problem.
I'm not denying that /vp/ has problems, mostly with furfaggots and genwars. But you /padt/ fags seriously need to stop acting like crybabies of the worst kind. Get a grip.
>>365051
It IS bad, anon. Yeah, some of the autists that posted here aren't making the thread look too good, but it IS an incredibly frequent target for career shitposters, moreso than any other thread there, and reports frequently go ignored or get the reporters banned, no matter how blatant it is.
You presumably disliking the anime and the fact that people watch it doesn't change the fact that moderation on /vp/ is so bad shitposters can shit up those threads to the extent they do, and that's not a matter of the threads going ignored by the mods. The core problem is excessive shitposting and lack of moderation in general, and that's a /vp/-wide problem.
>>364755
I wish I had this guys's autism. Wrecking my homeboard to the point where victims have to voice their butthurt like this would be absolutely worth it.
>>365059
I'd say there's a decent chance that's actually the shitposter himself, anon, considering half his reason for disguising his shitposting as an autistic conversation seems to be wanting to make the thread look like it's actually HAVING those autistic fights he has with himself.
>>365062
He might be one of the shitposters but there is no denying that amourfags get way too easily triggered, not to mention that their posts are just as repetitive and tiresome as any of the resident shitposters'.
>>365083
A lot of the "triggered amourfags" are the same guy samefagging while pretending to be other people, too. You learn to recognize his writing style after a while.
Again, he's seemingly trying to make the thread look a lot worse than it is by disguising his shitposting as an autistic conversation.
>>365088
No, a lot of the triggered are actual butthurt Amourfags. I've lost count how many times he's started some shit, and then people argue Amour's future in general.
>>365105
It's largely just him samefagging, anon. Good job falling for the bait.
>Error: You were warned. You must first view this warning to post again.
Thank you, mods, for showing just how much a crapshot it is to report any of this shitposting. This is a legit problem.
>>365088
Some of them maybe, but far from all.
You need to realize that devoted shitposters aren't the only problem, but that many of the anons of /padt/ are just terrible posters in general.
>>365110
He doesn't say anything in support of Amour. Ever. He just green text of things from XY40, or 90 now.
People that actually reply to it are either newfags or are adamantly trying to defend the ship. In a similar vein to his "Amour has no progress" nonsense, how many times have you seen "You've got Ash doing shit he's not done before with Serena!"?
>>365111
Even if they are, blatant, inarguable, thread-derailing shitposting, close to zero moderation and a report button that gets you a warning or a ban for using it is an actual problem, regardless of how much you dislike the thread or the people posting there. It's /vp/ in general that needs mod attention, not just a particular thread that happens to get a lot of shitposter invasions.
Also, if you sit there for hours arguing with the same shitposter in the exact same way every single day, you're blatantly shitposting yourself. You can't argue against that.
>>365117
>a report button that gets you a warning or a ban for using it is an actual problem
This has literally never happened to me and I report on /vp/ fairly often.
Just because you don't like a poster doesn't mean that the exact posts are breaking any rules.
>>365114
>People that actually reply to it are either newfags or are adamantly trying to defend the ship.
That's him, anon. He's replying to himself pretending to take his own bait.
As you say yourself, it's the exact same responses every time, for hours, on a near daily basis. That's not some random autistic anon that refuses to ignore the shitposting he's seen hundreds of times already, that's a shitposter trying to shit up the thread with the exact same pretense conversation again and again.
>>365118
I got warned for reporting this, anon >>>/vp/24743372
You can't argue that's NOT a shitpost.
>>365120
The funny thing is I reported that post as well and haven't been warned
>>365122
Considering it hasn't been deleted either, it'd mean the report was reviewed and that post was determined to be within the rules, though, even if they didn't warn everybody that reported it.
>>365119
No it's not, the posting styles are entirely different. It's not hard to see some people in /patd/ are very attached to the subplot. Which is why XY59 gifs get posted ad nauseum or "this episode has been explained numerous times look at the archives!" , or "Japan when crazy over the episode for a reason" gets posted in defense of that episode.
>>365124
which is baffling seeing as its all caps spam
>>364892
>Trump about to win the Presidency
How is this a bad thing?
>>365126
That's exactly the reason this thread was made. /vp/ moderation is so bad even shitposting THAT blatant can get you warned or even banned for trying to report it.
It used to be better before, all the stuff I've been hit with warnings or bans for reporting is stuff that used to be deleted quickly a year ago. It's only recently that shitposting has been given a free pass.
ITT: Whiners
/vp/ moderation is perfectly fine, I've been in plenty of threads where there was no porn dumps and shitposting. You just need to get a backbone and visit better threads.
>>365131
>/vp/ moderation is perfectly fine
>>365144
I see all you have as a rebuttal is a smug anime face.
Truly a convincing argument.
>>365145
you just need to look at yesterday, where they had to gut almost a quarter of /vp/ because furry porn had been sitting in the catalogue for literally hours
>>365131
>I don't see it so it isn't true
Of course anon. /vp Moderation is perfectly fine.
DELETE IT
I never understood why moot created this board. There was no need for it all, like it was with mlp
>>364740
>We just want decent moderation
You won't get that in almost any board.
>>365159
I'm glad you agree!
>>365170
That was sarcasm, retard.
[spoiler]I would've called you an autist if I an actual autist myself didn't recognize that that was sarcasm.[/spoiler]
>>365164
Deleting a board at this point isn't like throwing out a jar of oil. It's like breaking the jar and expecting the stuff inside not to get everywhere and make a mess.
>>365174
But /vp/ could easily move to other boards.
/padt/ would go to /a/
General discussion would move to /vg/
The furfags would go to /trash/
And everyone else would try to post their bait in other boards and get reported.
>mfw paws
^_^
>>365176
Don't forget the reason that /vp/ was created in the first place, anon.
>>365014
Go ahead and try, but I'd expect the message to fall on deaf ears. I don't think anyone reads those feedback messages anymore. Last time any of them got a response was in September.
Apparently, the janitors finally showed up and deleted 110 shitposts from the current Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread at one time...shitposts that had piled up in the thread over the course of six or seven hours. Thread seems to have calmed down for now, thankfully.
They showed up too little too late, but...thanks, I guess?
>>365269
They showed up hours after the porn dump began yesterday as well along with the furry posting before that. That's kind of the problem /vp/ has in general with janitors and mods.
>>365254
Pokemon's fanbase is nowhere near as large as it used to be.
>>365278
So? It's still there, and the games still sell like hotcakes.
>this fucking thread
>>364755
>being this triggered over amourposter
i browse /padt/ regularly and you need to lighten the fuck up. that shit is hilarious.
>>365283
[spoiler]That's a shitposter, anon[/spoiler]
>>365286
Suuure...
>>365286
To me it seems like the majority of the people in this anime general are shitposters.
>>365286
>the guy who explains the shitposter's tactics in detail to the mods is the shitposter himself
Ebin
The complaints are about /vp/ as a whole in case you three new guys missed it.
>>365290
all they do is blame and complain rather than discuss the show or share content, so you're right.
>>365299
Welcome to /padt/.
SB here, I'm flattered by all the autismo you can produce because of me.
Thanks
>>365302
You can't discuss anything a good portion of the time when the majority of time you have shitposters flooding the thread. Not to mention how at times the same people flood the board and even go into other boards.
>>365305
What fuck is a SB?
>>365306
/vp/ isn't that fast, even with shitposters. If your post is interesting enough you will get (You)'s. Discussing how bad said thread is within the thread isn't helping and rather shows that people are more interested in giving shitposters attention that discussing.
If there is so little interest to discuss the actual topic of the general and is only a breeding ground for shitposters, then the general may not be needed. From the way I see it the shitposters' posts are more on topic than those who claim to not be shitposters.
>>365310
It's an attention whore that likes to pretend he's one of the shitposters while ironically being one himself. He took the SB from stale baiter.
>>365301
Honestly, this thread is pretty indicative of what /vp/ is - a place for nonstop shitposting.
>>365313
I agree, especially with all the autism surrounding the anime section in regards to shipping/character/whatever. People are so paranoid know that multiple people get accused of being baiters, if they end up disagreeing with the general consensus.
>>365311
When there's little interest then the thread goes quiet then picks up when something comes up. The reason people talk about the thread's situation is because the shitposters are spamming the whole time, kill the bump limit, then proceed to shitpost non-stop then rinse and repeat in the next thread. That's not even mentioning when they jump to other boards.
>>365316
>I agree, especially with all the autism surrounding the anime section in regards to shipping/character/whatever.
A lot of that IS just bait, anon.
>>365306
>>365317
nobody is stopping you from discussing anything. it's a thread, it can hold multiple conversations. you're the one perpetuating the shitposting by discussing it instead of the actual topic. hell even webm or pokegirl dumps would be better and more relevant than incessant whining, which is basically this thread.
>>365318
If the whole general is filled with bait then it is not a question about a few shitposters shitting up the place, the general is shit itself.
It seems more like the situation is that you like an anime with a shitty fanbase, and there is not much to do about that.
>>365318
I know it's bait, and yes sometimes it's obvious because of posting style it's the same person that "falls" for the bait, whatever it may be. But that's hardly the case all the time. Some people are too attached to things in the anime.
>>365319
See, that's the problem in itself. You can't hold said multiple conversations when pretty much a good chunk of it is just being flooded with shitposting that always includes image dumping that kills any way of having discussions. You're talking about Pokegirl dumps but there are threads for those all the time outside of that thread. webms would be fine but even that won't work when people that do make them end up getting banned for reporting shitposts and the image limit gets filled by shitposts.
>>365322
No, anon. The threads get filled with bait because colossal autists sit there for fucking hours responding to their own bait hile pretending to be random anons, day out and day in. There's not that many of them, and the thread is generally fine when they're not around, but they're extremely persistent in their shitposting and the janitors and mods are extremely shitty about getting rid of their spam when they first start.
>>365326
No it's not. People are already getting accused of being other posters in the padt. People are just overly sensitive, and yes it mostly revolves around shipping.
>>365329
What kind of "shipping"-related autism do you even see there? I don't really give that many shits about the subject, but the extreme majority of shipping-related posts are just that one guy that's responding to his own bait. Whatever else there is are just relatively innocent comments that never attract any bitching or autism.
Toss up some archive links if you need to, because I really don't see where you're getting this from if you ACTUALLY aren't just falling for bait.
>>365319
It can hold multiple conversations in theory, but what happens when there are five separate shitpost "conversations" underway at the same time?
>>365336
mainly from either the korrinafags or the samefag replying to his own bait
>>365333
>>365337
>>>/vp/24733812
All of that in the beginning and end are not the same person replaying to himself
>>365354
That one nigger that can't quote properly isn't him, but it's clearly a shitposter. He keeps responding to the same bait with the same posts, and you don't see any legitimate posts with that same posting style anywhere.
>>365361
Keep looking at the thread anon, and the stuff towards the end
>>365362
It's 400+ posts and I was in it while it was live. I have no idea what specific posts you're assuming are random retards taking bait rather than shitposters pretending to.
>"Adults" play Pokémon
>>365364
>Does he have the same feelings for her as she does him anon? No? The stop making shit up.
>actually makes shit up
>scene basically saying that Serena means a lot to him
>always tries using the same thing that on its own is still wrong
>It's like you haven't done this before just to start shit. Hell, I remember some weeks ago some guy still answered you.
Exchanges like this anon. But I guess both are shitposters so whatever.
>>365368
Pretty sure those posts are both from that one guy that keeps replying to his own bait to derail the thread, yeah.
>>364811
>scott
Woadie he has nothing to do with this.
I'm the autist that wrote the really long post on the Amourshipping baiter. I'm sorry for doing it, I shouldn't of gone so crazy with it. I don't even care much about Amourshipping or Ash and Serena, I just want the anime discussion threads to be good and not have so much spam, however I let my autism get the best of me.
>>365370
Except he's never posted anything in favor of Amour. Most of his shit are speaking against episodes involving the ship. People then reply with their rebuttal. If you think that people aren't autistic about Amour there then you're fooling yourself. Both him and the people that reply to it are the problem. Hence why seeing "report and ignore" is fairly common.
>>365381
S-sorry anon
>>365384
I'm just saying, there were even people wondering if the people in this thread were shitposters over at padt. It's gotten pretty bad.
>>365385
Several of them are, anon. This >>365375 is blatantly that guy that keeps responding to his own bait, this >>364970 is longhairfag, and this >>364864 >>364869 is some picdump spammer.
I'm the guy you were talking to up there, and I know you're not any of the shitters, though. But they DO have a tendency to falseflag like that.
/tr/ veteran here.
I've been a visitor to /tr/-/vp/ since its inception and things are dire indeed. /vp/ is being flooded with /s4s/ and /r9k/-tier shitposters who drown the discussion with shitty memes and shitposting. On any given day you can go on the catalog and see frogposting disguised as pokemon discussions that drowns out legitimate discourse. On top of all of that, those threads also push out other threads further stymieing creativity. On top of that, serial shitposters and known underage tripfags are allowed to run rampant while moderation drags their heels has turned /vp/ into a festering wound.
/vp/ is sick and needs improved moderation otherwise the board will become another detriment to this site. /r9k/ was bad and /s4s/ is even worse. You don't need more festering pools of shitposting to spread amongst the rest of the site, especially considering the wide appeal of pokemon. If samefags, underageb&, and NEET-frogposters like Brett/buttscab, Avidraco, and the rest of the anonymous ilk that plagues /vp/ are not dealt with, the situation will escalate and the cycle of rebirth during the next pokemon game announcement will not occur and the board will be lost.
/vp/ has long stood tall amongst the fires and flames of furfags, trolls, shitposters, and general hate from the rest of 4chan. When moderated, /vp/ is a good board to call home because you can talk about the series and joke and converse and meet new people. But when it's in dire straits like present times, /vp/ needs moderation more than ever. It is not a fun site to visit and it is difficult to find people with positive attitudes.
Please, do not abandon /vp/ mods and janitors. We need your help.
>>365389
actually anon, im not the one who posted those webms of ash and serena here. I always name these pics, gifs, or webms. This one is an example
>>365390
I agree with what you're saying, but did you really need to write another essay just after one other guy wrote a huge essay of his own and ended up having to apologize for it?
>>365394
That post was fine and did a decent enough job explaining the actual issue. Don't compare it to that autismfest from earlier.
>>365394
I wanted to add some insight from someone who has seen the dark days of no moderation and the unfettered shitposting that took place in the era of Kyo, Bui, Germanfag, Dragonite, and the Immortal Fuhrer of /vp/. /vp/ needs help otherwise it will hurt 4chan as a whole as /mlp/ ponies and frogposting has hurt 4chan as a whole.
>>365390
You can't just go and ban all those "shitposters", some may shitpost all the time but others still post normally in other threads. If they were banned easily /vp/ would also be empty. Only the truly disturbing and distracting stuff should be deleted like frogposting and other NSFW content. The level of tolerance for the posting behavior on /padt/ is fine, also most of the NSFW stuff gets deleted quickly.
>>365389
Except the guy you quoted as the "baiter" is me. I'm actually the person you replied to as well. Stop being so paranoid.
>>365393
And then there's this other pic dumper.
>>365398
Of course you can't, but if moderation is absent to make those judgement calls, then it is all a moot point. I'm not talking about just /padt/, I'm talking about the board in general. The culture of the board currently supports to /s4s/-tier communities in Pokemon Clover threads and Showderp and more will come. /vp/ should not be a place that allows shitposting to cultivate and become the norm.
/vp/ needs moderation for your scenario to even come to fruition in the first place!
>>365398
>The level of tolerance for the posting behavior on /padt/ is fine
Not when it's literally impossible most of the time to have a decent discussion of any type and when it's the same troll spam posted over and over again to bait and piss off people
>most of the NSFW stuff gets deleted quickly.
Uh, no, it doesn't? Then explain why we had a porn thread raid just yesterday and those threads weren't deleted for several hours? Or the guy who dumped Korrina porn in the current /padt/ and didn't have it deleted for six hours? And that's the norm, it routinely takes several hours for shitposting to get cleaned up, even the most blatant stuff.
>You can't just go and ban all those "shitposters"
Nobody is saying to ban all of them. It's fine if the mods just clean up the shitposting, maybe issue a warning to the most blatant violator and leave it at that. Instead they're warning and banning shitpost reporters, and deleting shitposts infrequently and inconsistently at best.
>>365400
Don't tempt me anon. I can spread all the amour in this thread if I want to.
>>365406
Wow your such a badass
>>365407
>replying to shitposter
>>365408
He made his own thread once and that was fine. It's when he jumps into the anime thread and starts the same that he becomes a shitposter.
Recently though he revealed to be posting as one of the scat shitposters in /vp/ if I recall correctly.
>>365409
scat shitposters?
>>365410
Yeah, we have literal shitposters.
>>365411
what do you mean by scat shitposters?
>>365417
He means literal shitposters as in people will post scat porn to derail threads.
As can be easily seen in this thread, it's a matter of urgency that needs to be addressed as soon as management "permits" itself to do it.
>>364755
>Ash Ketchum
>Serena
/a/ here, at least learn their proper names, you fucking retard.
>>364728
Why is /vp/ even a board? It's literally /mlp/-tier in that it caters only to a single franchise.
Fuck off until all the other boards have the moderation they need,
>>365598
It is "Serena", don't know why you bothered greentexting that part.
>>365396
This guy knows what's up. I've seen /vp/ at its best and at its worst. When it's allowed to do its thing, you've got an entire board full of devoted no-lifes who have nothing better to do than create surprisingly good original content. But right now, it's been under shitposter siege for so long that nobody even tries. Any attempt to do anything neat gets nuked by samefagging shitposters.
>>365617
>>365608
Pokemon is huge enough that it could fall in many different boards. It took up too much room in too many places, so it got its own board.
/mlp/ was literally a quarantine because ponyshit was spilling into unrelated threads and boards.
I know where you're coming from, but the circumstances behind their creation were different.
>>365621
It's "Serena" in Japanese as well.
>>365707
I just realized I misread your post. Guess I'm a faggot.
Right now you're getting the same guy that did the porn dumps yesterday starting again.
>>>/vp/24748325
>>365780
We're also getting that stale-baiting anti-Amour spammer in the anime thread starting again, though now he's altering his repetitive troll-spam questions to be more subtle than he was before and to make himself sound like a genuinely curious anon. Most of us in the anime threads know this guy's posting style, though, so we're not fooled:
>>>/vp/24748413
>>>/vp/24748384
>>>/vp/24748178
>>>/vp/24748036
>>>/vp/24748433
>>365800
No, you're just paranoid, given one of those post was me.
>>365801
This guy is in a full blown ass-crisis! He's inconsolable!
>>365801
Identify which post was yours.
Mods, pls:
>>>/vp/24748384
>>>/vp/24748517
I'm not to familiar with /padt/ but I feel >>365390 matches my concerns perfectly.
Quality discussion is drowned out by endless amounts of shitposting.
Useless threads are created without a thought, often dying with only a pitiful amount of replies.
Gen wars and pokegirls are fine by me if they are contained in their own singular threads. Its the endless waves of pointless threads that are pushing anything worthwhile off the board.
Newfags need to learn how to use the catalog. Seriously, look in the archive and tell me how many threads make it past 10 posts. Most threads rarely make it past 100 or even 50.
>>365816
>Seriously, look in the archive and tell me how many threads make it past 10 posts. Most threads rarely make it past 100 or even 50.
I think once the board gets some real news, hopefully the number of threads with fewer than 50 posts should drop a bit. The dearth of news has kept /vp/ slow lately, so a lot of shitpost threads and useless threads are made just because people are bored. And the amount of traffic to the board lately (owing to the lack of news) probably isn't high enough to give a lot of useful but minor threads good traffic.
>>365824
That problem also at times stems because of game news when threads get made. I mean hell, at the moment the only viable game news source is the anime which people hate and shitpost at.
>>365824
Listen man, I've been through the gen4-gen5 drought, the inter-Unovan drought, the gen5-gen6 drought, Primal Groudon Drought, and the current drought is different from all of them. The dearth in content is expected, but the amount of shitposting sinking the rest of the lifeboats isn't. The amount of small threads are because people who want to discuss things seriously are leaving due to shitposting or those threads are shitposting themselves.
I mean think about it, look at the catalog right now. I can count 23 threads that are shitposting just by looking at the title or the image used. 23 threads where people put zero thought or effort into their initial post with the intent of causing problems. That's furry threads, pepeshit threads, garbage like >bug type >ice type, and posts where the entire point is something blatantly shitposty like asking for meme pokemon.
23 threads and the faux-goodraspammer isn't even awake yet.
There's bored and then there's shitposting. If you're going to shitpost because you're bored, take it to one of the designed shitposting boards like /trash/, /r9k/, or /sp/. But if people were truly bored and productive, they'd be making posts and using their brains to talk about things rather than shitpost.
The worst part about all of the shitposting is that it isn't even quality shitposting like in the days of yore. It's lazy, half-assed, and you can't even compare it to the trolls of yore. The problem is just that there is so much of it and that it draws in more low-quality posters and shitposters. If /vp/ is to be saved, then moderation needs to purge the board of the low-tier shitposting and send a message to the shitposters that /vp/ is not some garbage dump.
At least Showderp and Clover put their shitposting to creative means, but when they're one of the more productive things on the board, then /vp/ is in a sorry state of affairs.
So now we got some dude spamming gore. Wonder how many hours it'll be allowed to stay up.
Check out the /vp/ catalog:
>>>/vp/catalog
and people still don't think we need new mods?
>>365968
Note that that's the kind of posts you actually get warned for reporting, too.
>>>/vp/24749475
This has been up for almost an hour.
Perfect illustration of the current state of /vp/
