/drug/ board when?
But seriously, why not?
>>363384
GR 1.
>>363390
The Global Rules are outdated. Besides erowid and bluelight exist and they have zero problems. Just make buy threads or asking how to find drugs a bannable offense.
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
>>363384
Well why should we fucko?
There's no serious demand for it.
>>>/420chan/
>>363390
>You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
Up until a few years ago, 4chan has had rs.4chan.org which kept a list of links around 4chan, each from different file hosting services. People discuss pirating all the time, especially on /g/. Also it seems that no one gets banned from /b/ for making threads about various drugs.
Besides the fact that talking about weed isn't illegal, there are many states that have already legalized it in some form. America isn't the only country that posts on 4chan either, and there are other nations that don't care about marijuana use.
>>363384
Because people who use drugs are usually obnoxious faggots and underage.
>>363733
Your hot opinions aren't good reasons to not have the board.
>>363384
Because drugs are for NORMALFAGS
>>363733
It sounds exhausting to keep pretending this is true.
>>363976
If you have to talk about you smoking dope and enjoying it, then you're a worthless stoner and encouraging degeneracy
>>363989
Hiro had something similar to him back when he ran 2ch. Apparently there was a major drug operation happening on one of the obscure boards and the police found out and questioned Hiro
Pretty sure it was the Yakuza, it's always the Yakuza
>>363988
People like to talk about it the same reasons you like to talk about anime or video games... or how you like to talk about 4chan in a 4chan board (/qa/) on 4chan.
>If you want to talk about drugs, you're obsessed with it
That's what it sounds like you're saying here.
>>363989
There are daily drug threads on /b/. There is nothing against the law about talking about drugs. And /b/ falls under Global Rules #1, and yet I don't see these threads disappearing like the cp threads. I don't see share threads disappearing on /mu/. For years we had /rs/ which grabbed links posted all around 4chan, most of them pirated material. This argument doesn't make sense here.
>for kids
That board can be 18+. Kids will lie about their age, but at least we wouldn't be encouraging it. And instructions on how to grow weed are available anywhere, but they mean nothing without the actual seeds or clones and the equipment.
>where to buy various drugs
I don't think anyone here is asking for a board like that......why would you even assume that we did or think this is relevant? This is never allowed. A drug deal online is still an illegal drug deal.
People are just asking for a place to talk about drugs, not a place to do conduct deals online. I just can't wrap my head as to how you could go through this thread and still make this assumption. I feel like there's an entire thread you read in another dimension. Let me ask you a question: Was it Berenstein or Berenstain? http://www.avclub.com/article/how-you-spell-berenstain-bears-could-be-proof-para-223615
>>363976
I don't really have to pretend. Go into any drug thread on /b/ or /r9k/. Those are the kind of people that would populate a drug board. 100% concentrated cringe. Not to mention the legal hassle it would foster.
Just go to 420chan. They could use the traffic.
Is there a significant number of users who want to talk about that shit here already? I don't recall seeing anything like that, barring s4s and the occasional /b/ thread, but honestly can't tell if they're all on drugs or memes.
>>363435
>erowid and bluelight exist and they have zero problems.
I was under the impression they needed moderation up the ass to function without the party van showing up.
>>363726
Piracy generally doesn't have squads of soldiers showing up on your doorstep the way the drug trade does.
I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea. It seems like a sack of pain in the ass waiting to happen, like a board dedicated to 9 year olds in swimsuits.
>>364052
>Those are the kind of people that would populate a drug board.
No. /drugs/ wouldn't have the same rules as /b/, and it wouldn't take part IN /b/. They wouldn't include the same threads by any means. It's also unfair to compare an entire board related to drugs and the general stoner threads on /b/.
If it was filled with general stoner threads, of course it would die. That's the reason why you can safely assume it WOULDN'T be filled with those threads. The rules and the users wouldn't permit it.
>legal hassle it would foster
There are countless communities online related to drugs. Even reddit has /r/trees and other drugs per different kind of drug or user.
>420chan
There's a good reason why most people don't want to touch that site.
At the very least: if we can't have a /drugs/ board, how about a /high/ board? It could have your average thread about weed or pieces, but it wouldn't be focused on the drug itself. It'd be for anyone high or intoxicated in general to share things. You bet jurASSic Park that you can get a successful board like that.
>>364053
>I was under the impression they needed moderation up the ass to function without the party van showing up.
Not really. Talking about drugs isn't illegal and talking about drug use isn't illegal. I know some people think that they are, and they probably have a twisted view of the laws. These communities stay up for a reason.
>the way the drug trade does
But you also don't get this issue with stoner threads on /b/. Discussion isn't illegal. If someone posted a cartel sized amount of cocaine on /b/, you'd probably have some action, but that's about it. Also you have people of different countries and states posting there.
>>363435
Bluelight enforces the SWIM and "my neighbor's hamster may have" bullshit to stay afloat. 4chan would get shut down immediately if we had a dedicated drug section.
>>364060
>Sounds good. Go there and discuss drugs.
You could make this argument with any board that's been suggested. /b/ is the go-to place for anything miscalaneous, but there's a good reason why people want a separate board with it's own rules and users as opposed to relying on containing everything in general threads around /b/.
>I guess your retarded suggestion was retarded.
No, it's the same amount of reasoning as to why we don't shut down /b/. We're not liable for kids who come through lying about their age, just like the porn sites. You completely missed my point entirely. You sound like a very angry person, there.
>Anybody so pathetic as to have any fucking drug take over their lives to the point it's,a hobby that needs a dedicated board should not be encouraged. I suggest checking yourself into rehab, dumbass.
I could say the same thing about any other hobby posted online. But I don't, because I don't make the assumption that everyone here is completely and utterly obsessed with everything they talk about around here. I don't see your issue with people talking about drug use, other than it hurts your feelings and you're very sensitive to it. :'( The fact of the matter is that someone who likes smoking marijuana might like talking about it, and there's no harm in that.
>Some epic troll will give kids bad advice about what kind of mushrooms or cough syrup to ingest and they will die or suffer permanent disability. Then their parents will find the 4chan drug board in their history and it will be more scandals to deal with. It's 100% guaranteed to happen.
People have given bad suggestions like that all over /b/. Someone probably has even been killed or injured as a reslt of bad advice on /b/. Why is that anyone's concern if they ignore all signs pointing to "don't take these people seriously" and end up making a random mixture in a random thread on 4chan? This is really your reasoning as to why this board shouldn't exist?
>>364063
Can you explain the different types of subreddits on reddit that openly talk about drugs? This isn't as illegal as you think it is.
And if /drugs/ isn't an option, what are your thoughts on /high/?
>being such a vapid fuck that you need to use drugs in order to feel content
>>364068
/s4s/ is nothing like the proposed /high/. It's like a /b/ that's more focused on the "random" aspect than /b/ itself
>>364071
>feeling the need to accuse every drug user of this
Why don't you respond to things actually mentioned in this thread? I don't think you can actually have a discussion with a drug user without automatically sticking every assumption pounded into your head along with it. That's sadder than actual drug addicts.
Maybe Hiro doesn't want to step on Kirt's shoes more than he needs to, he was already pretty upset when Hiro made /asp/ wrestling focused
>>364073
The reason you can't have a discussion with a drug user is because they usually have short attention spans.
>>364075
This very conversation is an example of drug users not being the problem. Immediately resorting to attacks and shitposting might be!
>>364075
Funny cause it's true, ahyuck ahyuck.
>>364079
It's strange how much you people hate others for what they do in their own home.
>>364080
"Hate" is a strong word, anon.
>>363435
>The Global Rules are outdated
The pertinent clause here "no discussion of illegal content" is still timely as ever.
>Besides erowid and bluelight exist and they have zero problems.
So use those websites. 420chan exists too and seems to be reasonably active.
>Just make buy threads or asking how to find drugs a bannable offense.
"Just" increase the moderator work load by like a bazillion percent.
>>364065
>Can you explain the different types of subreddits on reddit that openly talk about drugs?
Nope, I also can't explain the pedophile subreddits that only got attention after they got deleted. Some sites get more attention than others and seeing how this site always seems to turn up whenever there's a school shooting, I don't think suspected drug trafficking would be conducive to 4chan's longevity.
>>364089
>The pertinent clause here "no discussion of illegal content" is still timely as ever.
Piracy is discussed in /g/. Drug threads are on /b/ all the time. I can see this applying to trying to sell weed online or cp, but I don't see people getting banned in stoner threads or people banned for share threads on /mu/. And I like it that way.
>>364104
>drug trafficking
No one here is supporting online drug trafficking in the boards that are being proposed here. Stop thinking they are. I shouldn't have to say this twice in this thread, why can't you just read what people are saying here?
>>364105
>No one here is supporting online drug trafficking in the boards that are being proposed here.
You're a fucking retard if you don't think people won't start making pricing and trade threads and then just continuing to do so after evading their ban. But I guess it's easier for you to be the idea guy.
>>364108
>making pricing and trade threads and then just continuing to do so after evading their ban
I don't see this on /b/. The closest thing they get is someone asking for weed. Since you're obviously the ideas guy, what makes you think this is going to happen? But I guess it's easier for you to just call people "fucking retard"s.
There's already a *chan dedicated to drugs, go use it.
>>364116
There's chans dedicated to lots of different things. How is this ever relevant to 4chan?
>>364131
It's not out of fear. Why don't you tell the people who want /asp/ this? Or the people who wanted /news/ this? Or does for some reason "just go to another chan instead of suggesting a board in your preferred chan" doesn't apply? There is something very wrong with someone who is so adamant against someone requesting a board on a Q&A board on their favorite imageboard. Go to bed.
>>364132
>Why don't you tell the people who want /asp/ this? Or the people who wanted /news/ this?
>implying that you have proof that they didn't
>>364137
This was the same issue in every thread on /q/. Someone would walk in and throw a fit about how we should just go elsewhere instead of criticizing or suggesting things. This was always their excuse.
>>364146
How is it an excuse? /drug/ is unlikely to ever be made as there's very little demand and 420chan has existed for fucking ages as the general drug imageboard, if you want to talk about drugs on an imageboard then that's about the only place you'll be able to use anytime soon which isn't completely dead.
If you don't want to go there because it's full of stoners and edgy college kids than it may shock you to learn that a /drug/ board here wouldn't be any better (probably massively worse 2bh due to /b/-tier >dude weed lmao teenage spergs spilling into it). 4chan has never tried to pander to every niche interest out there and never will, use other imageboards for those interests if there's nowhere you can talk about them here. Or use a forum or some other gay shit to talk about it like a normal person.
>>364128
why does 4chan have to have a board for every subject? is this the only website your mommy lets you access?
>>364112
Because it happens in /b/ all the time. I remember some kid asking for connects and I gave him some tripfags psn. Do you have an actual argument or are you just going to act like an obstinate child because I made fun of your shitty idea?
>>364048
>That board can be 18+
Anon, what the fuck are you on about? Are you on fucking drugs? 4chan IS a 18+ site, you can't make a board 18+, when the site already is
>>363384
/drug/ has less of a chance of becoming a board than /l/ does.
>>363435
>Besides erowid and bluelight exist
and 4chan will never be better than them, as our content is designed to be ephemeral.
Last thing I want to do when I use coke is talk about coke.
>>364164
There are imageboards that house plenty of the type of boards that have been suggested here. That is why it's not an excuse, and why it's hardly relevant. You tell someone asking for /drugs/ they should just leave 4chan, you tell the same people who asked for /news/ and /asp/ and /vg/ and /vr/ and even those asking for new boards like /gg/.
But you don't, and that's why it's an excuse.
>>364537
No, he's saying that the board will never be made. What do you want about a drug board on 4chan that you can't get on 420chan?
>>364542
The same thing I want from /news/ that I couldn't just go to an inactive and forgotten imageboard for it. The real question is why you have such a issue against people suggesting things available on other imageboards.
>>364547
>420chan
>inactive and forgotten
>>364552
It's very inactive, and that's besides the point. If people want to go to 420chan, they'd go there.
People are free to suggest things here and people might as well try to at least discuss these suggestions rather than derail threads with "fuck off and go somewhere else" as their only response.
>>364556
/q/ was full of people doing this too, its best not to feed em
>>364537
>Not sure how this is supposed to make sense.
Probably because of all the drugs and your poor life choices. Try the /b/ archive if you want more examples.
>>364601
No, it's that using one example of some random person you met on /b/ isn't a valid argument against a drug board. Nor is a lot of things with that comparison. A /drugs/ board would also have it's own set of rules and would be more contained than /b/ (where drug threads are spread apart or in random stoner threads).
Selling drugs online is illegal and not allowed on 4chan and it never will be. Someone slipping through the cracks is more of a reason to contain these threads on their own board rather than have them go unnoticed on /b/, or a reason for increased moderation, but does not make sense as an argument against this board.
>>364629
>Selling drugs online is illegal and not allowed on 4chan and it never will be
Like pirating music or sharing copyrighted images? Just use the /b/ archive, you can find plenty of people trying to get connects.
>>364635
Those people are rulebreakers. If you searched the archive for cp you might even find some cp that was left unchecked. You can also go to /mu/ and look for share threads.
Clearly the global rules doesn't care so much about copyrighted images or share threads as much as they care about trying to deal drugs online or posting cp or leaks (which has taken moot to court in one case).
The question is how someone breaking the rules on /b/ applies to a /drugs/ board. Those people on /b/ are an issue, but they're a separate issue from this thread.
>>363733
I find your comment funny, because 420chan is not. I feel tricked by your comments.
Doesn't every board suggestion thread turn out like this?
You end up with a few sane discussions and then all of a sudden, shit breaks out. If you don't like suggestions, maybe you should leave instead of telling others to do so.
>>364063
Actually, SWIM isn't allowed on Bluelight, because it's not a legal defense.
Reddit also has several drugs r/ sections.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs
https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/
https://www.reddit.com/r/RCSources/
There's nothing illegal about drugs discussion, or telling people how to make, take, or buy them.
It's only illegal to actually buy them, sell them, or possess them. And that's ONLY with scheduled drugs.
>>364647
>There's nothing illegal about drugs discussion, or telling people how to make, take, or buy them.
>It's only illegal to actually buy them, sell them, or possess them. And that's ONLY with scheduled drugs.
I don't understand how someone can grow up in this great country of America and still believe this not to be the case. This falls under the first amendment after all!
I think the only issue 4chan will have with a drugs board is if people started conducting deals through it, and that wouldn't be tolerated at all. It's not a big issue around here and I doubt it will be.
The alternative to /drugs/ would be /high/ and I'm still supporting that idea.
>>363384
There's no reason why you should get one for your specific interest. You have plenty of room to circlejerk in /b/.
In fact, merge it with /soc/ to contain all that cancer in one place.
>>364661
What makes one special interest more worthy of a board than this?
>all these hypocritical arguments
>implying you all gave a shit about people wanting their own specific boards when /vr/ or /s4s/ was made.
>>364661
/b/ is a shitty place to get drug talk.
A board dedicated to the topic is much better for science, health, and safety talk rather than stupid troll posts.
And with this subject, science, health, and safety are desperately needed.
>>364661
>There's no reason why you should get one for your specific interest.
If there's "no reason", then why do new boards continue to be added? If there's no reason for a board to be created for a specific interest, /news/ wouldn't have been added (once again).
Like I said earlier in this thread, if you didn't react this way to other suggestions then this is nothing more than an excuse. Might as well post ">stop wanting boards I don't want" at this point.
>>364670
A health board would be nice
>>363384
420chan
>>364682
This is never going to be a relevant argument against a drug board here. One site being about a topic doesn't change a board being created on this site, else we should have been redirecting people left and right when they asked for /v/ spinoffs.
>>364684
You can't have a drug board right now for the simple fact that most drugs are illegal in most states in the US and this is a US-based website. When drugs become legalized then the drug board will exist.
>>364692
Discussing drugs is not illegal in the United States.
>>364692
SOME drugs are illegal. NO drugs are illegal to discuss.
>>364675
The information that people get for drug safety is frighteningly inaccurate.
I myself do what I can to abate this, and a board dedicated to these chemical tools would be a great place to get the word out.
I HATE 420chan. Shitty modding and style.
>>364675
A health board is a separate issue but it would be nice. /fit/ used to be Health & Fitness if I recall correctly, but people there never liked talking about health. And now it's removed from the title.
I don't think a /health/ board would be very successful though. Maybe if everyone there is asking for an armchair doctor's diagnosis on a condition they describe or talking about the different things that ails them.
>>363500
/thread
>>364747
Read the thread.
>>364639
>420chan
>not full of underage b&
smdh
>>364764
>>>/420chan/
Dude
Weed
LMAO
>>364673
>If there's "no reason", then why do new boards continue to be added? If there's no reason for a board to be created for a specific interest, /news/ wouldn't have been added (once again).
>Like I said earlier in this thread, if you didn't react this way to other suggestions then this is nothing more than an excuse. Might as well post ">stop wanting boards I don't want" at this point.
Except, most anons are doing exactly that and being vocal about the fact we don't need any more boards. There have enough as it is and new boards shouldn't even be considered until Hiro atleast knows what he's fucking doing
>>365044
>There have enough as it is
How do you define 4chan as having "enough" boards?
>>364638
The issues and the unwanted media attention that the board will bring are irrelevant to the board or irrelevant to your infantile argument?
>>365475
>the unwanted media attention that the board will bring
As opposed to the constant cp, trolling, and online raids that go on in /b/?
Maybe if you can actually explain how this would create unwanted media attention on 4chan. We normally don't get media attention for boards that we add to 4chan, maybe you just don't understand what exactly the media thinks of 4chan.
>>364647
Must've confused it with the drugs forum. But I've said it earlier in the thread that many over the line subreddits remain under the radar (pedo subreddits, fappening subbreddits, etc.) stay up without incident because no one notices them, however a site that's synonymous with school shootings and hacktivism wouldn't stand a chance when everyone is so cavalier with ownership of drugs and all the trade/pricing threads that show up on /b/ and remain unmoderated.
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>>365481
>As opposed to the constant cp, trolling, and online raids that go on in /b/?
And that shit is cleaned up no problem, with a drug board you're setting the precedent that everyone participating owns scheduled drugs. How many media outlets have called out /r9k/ as a board that condones school shootings due to recent events?
>>363384
>ask friends for a marijuana contact
>get the name of the dealer
>report the dealer to crime stoppers
>just got a $450 reward check in the mail because he was dealing other drugs as well and was given a 3-year sentence
>act pissed off at friends that they gave me the number to someone being arrested
>>365482
Once again, discussing drugs isn't illegal. CNN isn't going to hound 4chan for adding a drug board when /b/ exists and is many times worse than a few people having moderated discussions about drugs.
>>365492
>you're setting the precedent that everyone participating owns scheduled drugs.
Not unless you take into account that many people on 4chan don't even live in the United States. What exactly are you afraid of? Most of the attention 4chan gets comes from /b/ and that won't change the same way reddit isn't hounded for /r/trees. You're overestimating how much attention 4chan gets.
>>365494
You're talking about the same site that spent thousands in legal battles because of legally dismissible shit like motherless links or fappening pictures not getting shit over a drug board with easily juxtaposed rulebreakers asking for hook ups?
>You're overestimating how much attention 4chan gets.
More attention than /r/drugs and the several other out of the way subbreddits and forums. You can continue to plug your ears and pretend like the board is going to have perfect moderation and no ban evading rulebreakers will continue to make hook ups and shitty mushroom identification threads will ruin it.
>>365505
>continue to make hook ups
Not going to happen. If there's anything the mods here are serious about it's illegal content. You've given nothing to substantiate anything you're saying, and I'm supposed to take it on your word that CNN will hound 4chan over a drugs board when /b/ has countless drug threads and shotacon and loli threads on a daily basis? I'm not exactly plugging my ears over here.
>>365508
So do you think we should make /l/?
>>365540
No, drawn naked cartoon little girls are more risky than people discussing drugs. Although if you have such a negative stigma against 'drugs', you probably won't see how obvious this is.
>>365545
But look at all those loli threads on /b/ that go unpunished!
>>365547
What's your point? Drugs and lolicon pornography aren't comparable.
>>365494
Nigga what are you on about? Of course the media will fucking hound 4chan if we added a /drug/ board, it's what they do, they'd do the same if we added /l/. The instant they hear about 4chan adding a /drug/ board, they'll try to report on it. Why wouldn't they? It's easier viewership as 4chan is still considered the internets big bad. The reporting won't be '4chan added a /drug/ for casual discussion', it'll be 'holy fucking shit hitler added a /drug/ board look at all these screenshots we totally didnt make ourselves of them trying to buy and sell their illegal hard drugs holy shit 420 blaze it dude fucking demonic website man'. Once that happens its pretty fucking obvious what will happen, the board will be swarmed by 12 year olds and like in the past with things like /b/, it won't ever recover from the swarm, simple as that.
>>365550
>Once that happens its pretty fucking obvious what will happen, the board will be swarmed by 12 year olds and like in the past with things like /b/, it won't ever recover from the swarm, simple as that.
That is one dank delusion you have there. The media will see it as 4chan being 4chan. If they want to get upset over drug talk on 4chan, they'd be focusing on the constant stoner threads. Lolicon will get media attention, a drugs board on 4chan isn't going to surprise anyone.
Besides, while more media sources are becoming more comfortable with explicitly mentioning 4chan, it's still a passing comment most of the time. The only type of people who will come here are still the type of people who always come here, and it's up to the moderators to make sure it's not an issue.
>>365548
Give me one reason why.
>>365563
Well for one thing, lolicon is a gray area in the law.
It'll help if you try to struggle up an explanation as to how they are comparable. I think "a community to discuss drug science/health/safety/usage" and "a community to post drawn images of naked underaged girls for pedophiles to fap to" is not comparable by any means, and it should be self-explanatory for you. Feigning ignorance?
>>365553
> If they want to get upset over drug talk on 4chan, they'd be focusing on the constant stoner threads.
That implies that the media is constantly watching /b/, and it being on /b/ would mean that a user created the thread and all that.
A /drug/ board would be seen as 4chan saying "Drugs are good."
>>365569
>A /drug/ board would be seen as 4chan saying "Drugs are good."
/b/ is open to these kinds of threads so that's already implied according to that logic. The media doesn't constantly watch 4chan to begin with, it's not as interesting as you think. Why do so many people here still see it as a secret club?
>>365553
No, your the delusional one if you think the media won't report on it seriously like they do it with everything else. And I just told you why, easy viewership. Simple as that
The fact of the matter is, they WILL report on it, and it WILL bring it tons of undesirables
Eitherway, you are assuming for some reason the board will go good. It won't and we both know it. It'll just become another shitposting board because of the nature of the topic
>>365573
It'll become a shitposting board if shitposting is allowed, it's THAT simple.
>The fact of the matter is, they WILL report on it
Some blogs on the internet will make a mention of it like they do with any other change on 4chan. CNN's viewers don't care about 4chan and aren't going to spend their time focusing on it.
You've given nothing to suggest that the media will actually care about a board addition 4chan.
>>365567
So? Lolicon is perfectly legal in California, which is where 4chan servers are located. It's legal in most of Europe. I don't see how it's a grey area. Is discussing drugs legal everywhere? No. We have quite a few users from SEA who could get in trouble for that. What about our South Korean, Iranian, Saudi, Qatari, and Morracan posters that shouldn't be browsing porn? Should we remove /gif/ because of them?
Anyways, I have quite a few comparisons, I will be posting them momentarily.
>>365493
did you get any drugs before you busted him at least?
>>365580
If people want /l/ then it's fine and there's even a thread here on /qa/ about it, I'm not really sure the relevancy. I just know that /l/ is more risky than a drug board. There's also only so much you can get out of /l/. It'll be /h/ with loli. It does perfectly fine on /b/ and there's not really that high of a demand for it's own board. If we add /l/ we might as well add shotacon.
>>365581
It's a copypasta and one of the best
>>365572
>/b/ is open to these kinds of threads so that's already implied according to that logic.
/b/ is open to literally anything
>The media doesn't constantly watch 4chan to begin with, it's not as interesting as you think.
Look at it from a media point of view: Two shootings, one "racially motivated" and one targeting college students. Now it's opening a drugs board. If you don't see a story there, you're really not looking hard enough.
>>365584
What story do you see there? What twist is the media going to play? 4chan isn't just one hivemind and the media isn't doing a good job of convincing anyone of this. If it has to wait a little while after a media storm, that's fine, but it doesn't make this a board that shouldn't be added.
>>365577
>It'll become a shitposting board if shitposting is allowed, it's THAT simple.
That's not how it fucking work, you fucking moron. No boards allow fucking shitposting except the /b/ clones, yet, a good portion are nothing but that. Because of the nature of the topic, a /drug/ board will quickly devolve into nothing but shitposting. Remove those fucking fogged up glasses of yours and use your fucking head
>You've given nothing to suggest that the media will actually care about a board addition 4chan.
Ididyoufuckingmoron
>easy viewership
>easy viewership
>easy viewership
>easy viewership
>easy viewership
That itself is enough for media to encourage people to kill someone. Except, something that is incredibly known for killing people, leaking private information and photos, giving birth to anonmouse, and a lot of other things and is seen as the internets demon, suddenly makes a /drug/ board. It's obvious they will report on it and how they'll do it. They will make it seems like the big bad hitler now supports drugs, has its own drug trafficting ring, ignores the law and we could keep fucking going.
Stop living in that isolated ignorance ball of yours, the world isn't so simple and nice. Any sort of action 4chan takes is easy reporting and viewership
>>365586
>>What story do you see there?
>racist userbase (as far as they know)
>school shootings
>racially instigated shootings
>now they're saying drugs are A' Okay
>not a story
>>363988
There's always someone who's discussing alcohol or liquor in daily conversation. So there's not only kids talking about drugs.
>>365577
4chan is not a secret club anymore. You've said it yourself. Now I'm going to tell you about two articles. One, was in the Daily Mail after the Germanwings crash. As I'm sure you remember, /tv/ was having a field day. It only got better once we found a place where you review pilots, and Lubitz ended up being on there. Within minutes, his page was being flooded with references, and then just like that, the DM article quoted not just the fake reviews, but the parts that specifically were references to TDKR, actually omitting the other parts, coincidentally less than an hour after 4chan found them.
Now let me tell you about one that happened a little more recently. I'm sure you've heard of this one too; There's an nymag article titled 'Inside /pol/ - 4chan's racist heart'. There was something in there that tipped me off, something almost everybody overlooked. While rattling off a list of racist websites, sheekyforums was mentioned. Now, places like stormfront aren't exactly mainstream. It currently ranks around 32K on Alexa. Sheekyforums is at 260. Sheekyforums is actually just a website that copies all of 4chan's posts, and puts them into a forum format. I know /pol/, /g/, /v/, and /int/ know about it. Probably a few others as well. But lets just say, it's very, very difficult to find out about it. The only reason someone even did was because when they googled a certain post, that site came up. If you look, most of the referrals to sheekyforums from google actually come from Undertale. With that in mind, what are the odds this reporter actually found sheekyforums. Googling a stormfront headline would yield thousands of other results, why single them out? If they were linked from /pol/, would they not realize the posts are the exact same, in the exact order? Oh yeah, and the article was posted on /pol/ within an hour of it being published. All just a bunch of coincidences, right?
>>365577
>>365628
Where am I going with this? Like I said, 4chan is no longer a secret club. Shitposters are no longer that kid in your dorm whose kind of anti-social and you think browses, but you aren't really sure. They're succsessful people, with jobs. What if some journalism intern wants a big break? They can report about our drug board. Now, what makes it different from a reporter picking up a drug thread on /b/? Well, a few things. For starters, by the time any subsequent reporters came to investigate, the thread would be gone. Unlike loli, which does have threads round the clock, drugs threads aren't there all the time. They're still common, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if I went to /b/ and there wasn't a drug thread up. It'd also be even less likely that one would be up, since /b/ and the like have a tendency to spam gore, goatse, and other nonsense whenever they're in the news in a negative fashion. Alright, other agencies pick it up, it becomes a big story for a few days, then everybody forgets about it and goes back to normal. But when you have a dedicated drug board, especially one so blatantly obvious, it makes people stick around. Don't you think 4chan would be under a much bigger microscope, and people would still be calling for it to be shutdown if they had a board called /murder/? Yeah, yeah, drugs aren't the same as murder, weed never killed anybody, save me the shtick. We're talking about a country that made it so GTA couldn't be sold on consoles because there was a porn scene a developer forgot to delete, that you had to mod the game to get. And I think you're forgetting; there are other drugs besides weed. Like you know, Cocaine, MDMA, things that actually DO kill people. So now, this website, which has been the direct cause of at least one mass shooting, has a place where you can talk about how to do illegal things that kill you. At least the things /k/ talks about are legal in the US. Where is crack legal outside of Portugal?
>>365577
>>365631
And that's not all. Say some kid does something from a drug thread and dies. Of course there's outrage, but Hiro can just say "We have a strict policy on this, but sometimes things slip through the cracks". When you have a drug board, you can't say that. What's Hiro going to do, say 'oh well, but I have a sticky post that says not to listen to people here!'? Yeah, I'm sure that'll keep him, and 4chan out of court when it comes to a wrongful death suit. It doesn't even have to be a kid dying, it can be a kid buying drugs from a cop, who does sting operations through the board. Wasn't the FBI posting links to CP honeypots on /b/ until pretty recently? Why wouldn't they do the same with /drugs/? Remember, it doesn't matter how many people do it, marijuana is illegal according to federal law. (Oh, and I forgot to add, yeah, you have to be 18 to browse 4chan, but this is a site that hosts child pornography and supports the genocide of blacks and women! Even if they don't lose the case, there's still been a ton of money, and time spent. Not only that, but assuming it comes up when you google drugs, (which it very well may) then they'd be linked directly to the board, which means they don't view the disclaimer, as that only happens when you go the board from the home page.)
4chan isn't any original, so to suggest that we can't have a board because another imageboard has it goes against all common sense
>>365584
Who cares? 4chan is going to be attacked by the media regardless of what it does. Why should we change our ways?
>But the media
Considers everything bad that comes out of 4chan to be completely supported by everyone in the site. Pull your tail out from between your legs, the media doesn't dictate what we should and shouldn't allow.
>>365591
If they report it, they'll talk nastily about it. They'll mention how school shooters from /pol/, child porn and harassment pales in comparison to a few people talking about drugs. And everyone will move on. I'm sorry but you're alone with this fear that your favorite website will get mean comments from a few bloggers on the internet.
>>365593
And when the media does seem to focus on 4chan, it tends to be active situations. Shootings, child porn, harassment. Not the addition of a new board. Don't be so sheltered, online communities to discuss drugs aren't new by any means and isn't going to take many people by surprise.
>>365631
>Like I said, 4chan is no longer a secret club
People like you are what make this site worse.
>>365665
>Why should we change our ways?
We shouldn't so why add a /drug/ board when moot made a point not to do it?
>>365667
He's right. The whole "secret club" shit came from early /b/ joking about Fight Club. It was a joke that newfags like you take seriously. It was not and was never meant to be a secret club. Anonymous imageboards and textboards are like any other kind of forum. Some are hidden and quiet, some are hidden, etc. moot never went out of his way to hide it and enjoyed seeing the community grow. If he wanted to he could've kept this shit hidden. He could've made sure it didn't pop up on Google and stayed small with mass bannings or whatever other methods he wanted to. He didn't, because 4chan wasn't meant to be a secret club.
>>365631
>>365628
I think you're going to fall on deaf ears here, because at the end of the day the media doesn't dictate what 4chan does. Especially when they're not reasonable to begin with. Now there is focus right now on 4chan because of some shooters out of /pol/. The media generally focuses on 4chan when it comes to specific cases. "Hitler website 4chan adds drug board" doesn't seem like something I'll be seeing in my local newspaper anytime soon, and it's nothing that should concern anyone. Calm down.
>>365669
moot is gone.
>>365671
Meant to say some are large and some are small/hidden. Take Futaba Channel and 2ch. An imageboard and textboard in Japan. Both are fairly well known, 2ch (the textboard Hiro used to run) being the largest forum in the world and influencing movies, merchandise, stories, etc. It's basically pop culture to them.
>>365673
So your question stands, why should we change our ways?
>>365671
Cant believe how you literally missed the point of my post.
>>365678
Geez buddy, context. The context is our response to media. Why change our ways? We've never crumpled down when CNN made articles in the past.
>>365671
And moot never seemed to cave under media attention. Media attention hasn't been that strong against 4chan to begin with. There's a few articles now about recent events, but they will go away and 4chan will be forgotten while the perpetrators won't. It's the same with any other case, most people don't care about the site some greasy shooter posted on as much as the guy's name and where he did it at.
>>365681
>We've never crumpled down when CNN made articles in the past.
And we've never crumpled to people wanting a board for drugs or a board for furries, so really, why should we change our ways?
>>365680
There's no point to miss. Your point is that because school shooters from 4chan made the news, a drug board will. For one, most people aren't concerned with what the media says about 4chan, and the second thing is that you've given nothing that says the media will care about a moderated drug board as much as they care about actual shooters posting on 4chan.
Not the person you're responding to obviously.
>>365682
Plenty of the same boards have been suggested numerous times before they were made. What makes one board more worthy of being made than the other?
Also /trash /will beg to differ when it comes to furries. It's furry galore over there.
It boils down to this:
>Stop talking about things I don't like.
>>365683
>Your point is that because school shooters from 4chan made the news
Think twice and breathe before you do some reading comprehension.
>>365686
Just summing up the most important bits of your "point". 4chan is big and popular and has had controversy in the past, and a /drug/ board would be one of the least controversial. Why should we take into consideration what the media thinks of 4chan's image everytime we make a change? When did our nasty image of being "literally Hitler" ever stopped 4chan?
>>365685
/trash/ is a board for off-topic stuff, like a slower /b/.
And furry is allowed on /b/, as is drugs. By the logic that furries posting there makes it a furry board, people who want to talk about drugs can post there must also make it a drug board, right?
>What makes one board more worthy of being made than the other?
Potential userbase, mod interest, legality.
Another big issue with /drug/ would be the moderation needed, since you can bet your ass that people would be trying to deal drugs using it.
>>365691
>Potential userbase, mod interest, legality.
Well I'm not that certain about mod interest but /drugs/ seems to have a huge potential userbase and it is perfectly legal.
>you can bet your ass that people would be trying to deal drugs using it
You can bet your ass someone wants to post cp on some of the boards here, but what makes this such a special issue? Dealing drugs on 4chan is stupid and most people won't do it, and /b/ doesn't have that issue to begin with besides an occasional idiot asking for hookups.
What do you think would happen if someone tried to deal drugs on /drugs/? Would the thread stay up and receive 200 replies, or will it be reported and deleted and the user banned? And what makes you think it'll be a big issue rather than just a potential (and easily solved) issue?
>>365699
WEED
>>365699
This thread isn't worth it. Everyone who disagrees that weed is degenerate is going to get a shitposter as a response. I'm starting to question whether just saying "weed" will be a good way to attract shitposters and mass ban them all.
>>365681
The point isn't caving into the media you moron, it's what it will bring. How hard to that to understand. A /drug/ board will be, 1 general talking about safety and health, 1 general for experience, 1 general for usage, 1 for buy and sell, 1 for how to make it and everything else will be shitposting. And the majority of the shitposters will be newfags, who won't be leaving for a long time because the media reported on it, so people flocked here to 'dank le meme 420 blaze it'
Board creation on 4chan isn't simple. 4chan isn't as small as it was in 2007 and the like. You can't just willy nilly make changes without actually having an effect on things
>>365698
You make some pretty good points.
What would you discuss on this board?
>>363384
fuck off to another site, degenerate
>>365701
I said dude as in "dude how you still miss what a single sentence was talking about", not the meme. Guess this thread isnt for me anyway.
>>365671
>He's right. The whole "secret club" shit came from early /b/ joking about Fight Club. It was a joke that newfags like you take seriously.
>>365700
LMAO
>>365682
>And we've never crumpled to people wanting a board for furries
/mlp/ and /trash/.
>>365702
New people are always coming to 4chan. This isn't a secret club, and a lot of people already know what 4chan is. This fear is getting old and stupid.
>1 for buy and sell
Which is illegal and against the rules. If you think the board is going to be full of people trying to sell drugs on 4chan, you're incredibly naive and misguided.
I will bite.
Drugs are secondary experiences unique to every person you can't really make a meaningful discussion about it. And you can't sell drugs here anyways.
>I was so high, lemme tell you what I saw
These are often completely uninteresting and stupid to a sober person
>what vidya/shows/music/food do you like while high
There's a board for all that
>msnbc says dope can cure cancer so it'll be legalized!
Good, you can discuss it on /sci/ and /pol/
>dude should I use my friend's needles and drink bleach to clean my system?
4chan is the last place for health questions concerning drug use
>but my feels...man. I need to talk about my drug related feels
/r9k/
>>365761
>>Which is illegal and against the rules. If you think the board is going to be full of people trying to sell drugs on 4chan, you're incredibly naive and misguided.
No, I think you're incredibly naive and misguided if you don't think people won't try to do so in masses
>>365764
I LIVE IN L O N D O N
There's a few reasons there won't be a /drug/ board
It's not popular enough. As a few anons have already said, the only place its currently discussed is /b/. But, even in /b/ its not that big of a topic and there isn't even a thread always up for it. There is a interest in it, but its doesn't have enough interest to warrant an entire board for it when it can continue to survive in /b/ without any problems
It has legal issues connected to it.
>b-but its not illegal to talk about it
Weed isn't the only drug in existence fuckface, and a good portion of the other ones have incredibly bad health effects. Hiro won't even consider it just because of that. One of the reason he doesn't want to add sound webm support globally is because of possible piracy, which is a non-issue. Why would he make a board for something that CAN get him in legal trouble. Again, weed isn't the only fucking drug fuckface and one of the reasons moot left was because of all the legal problems, Hiro isn't going to make the same mistake
These are the news article you guys are talking about. The big and scary media who’s standards we have to adhere by. After all, they wrote an article on 4chan! That must mean this is big news, right? Media frenzy, right?
http://nymag.com/following/2015/11/inside-pol-4chans-racist-heart.html
>People are racist and hateful on /pol/ not for attention or reaction, but because they are. It’s jeering and ironic in the manner of all anonymous online discussion, but when people are filming themselves pointing guns at the camera and saying “stay white,” it’s hard to get the joke.
>But the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Keegan Hankes says, “[Y]ou can’t understate 4chan’s role.” He tells Siegel: “I constantly see 4chan being mentioned by the more Internet- and tech-savvy guys in the white nationalist movement. They’re getting their content from 4chan.”
http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-10-02/short-history-r9k-4chan-message-board-some-believe-may-be-connected-oregon
>/r9k/ — a message board famous for its stories of social awkwardness and violent disdain for thelives of average people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/25/the-chilling-video-that-foreshadowed-violence-days-before-minneapolis-shooting/
This one recent article about shooters who posted on /pol/.
So 4chan’s image is already “mean and scary”, and you’re concerned about it becoming mean and scarier? Even more, you people think a /drug/ board on 4chan is going to become big headline news, full TV coverage, even though shooters coming out of the site is objectively a more concerning issue? And even more is that I need to explain why 4chan shouldn’t be dictated based on the media’s image of it.
These are all arguments you selectively use against a /drugs/ board but would happily throw out the window and suddenly make sense if OP was suggesting a board you actually wanted.
>>365763
The reason for a drug board is so drug related discussion is contained rather than spread all over the place.
>>365764
A very small number of people do it in /b/ (and they go nowhere) and it'll be the same case in /drugs/. The threads will be removed 99% of the time and it won't become an issue.
It's naive to think that it will become an issue. You must really think we all just want to sell crack over 4chan. That's a shitty idea and only a moron would actually attempt it. Not a big concern.
>>365820
He won't get into any legal trouble whatsoever over a drug board, besides the normal stuff this site gets. If someone sells drugs over /b/, he'll probably hear about it. It'll be the same for /drugs/. Why would it be any different?
>>365853
>Why would it be any different?
Ignoring /t/, look over the board list. Now tell me, how many of those have a topic thats about illegal content? That's right, None. There are some were their contents can be illegally obtained, but there isn't any were the main topic is to discuss illegal content. That's the difference
/b/ is a melting pot for everything and no one would blink a eye at the sight of cpgore, as such, no one gives a fuck about drug discussion. But, this is trying to make an entire board for a topic thats illegal. Moot got into fucking legal trouble because someone fucking decided to do their fappening dump on /b/, you're a fool if you think /drug/ can't get him in to legal trouble. You're a even bigger fool if you think Hiro would take that chance
>>365864
What about /rs/ - Rapidshare that we've had for years? Don't tell me that wasn't focused around illegal content.
Why should the illegal nature of the topic change anything? There's millions of people who DO partake in these drugs legally. Discussing drugs is not illegal.
"It's bad because it's illegal" is not a legitimate excuse.
>>366326
It costs money to defend that shit which will bankrupt 4chan. This is why /rs/ got removed and why there's a DMCA system in place and also why motherless was a filtered word for a long time.
>>366326
>What about /rs/ - Rapidshare that we've had for years?
That's from a different time and age thats long gone. 4chan wasn't always one of the worlds largest websites. You wouldn't be able to make /rs/ in this age
>Why should the illegal nature of the topic change anything?
What this anon said
>>366331
Moot was being sued for people dumping fucking the fapppening pictures on /b/. Hiro WILL get sued for /drug/ board, thats a fact that will happen because of the nature of the topic. That cost money, money I doubt he has since from what we know he took a loan out to buy fucking 4chan
>>366392
If your this anon >>366331 I was agreeing with you. I shouldn't of quoted your post number on a new line, I guess it does make me look like I'm try to argue with you
I haven't seen a decent argument against it yet lol. I actually forgot I made this thread.
>>366454
Nobody cares and this isn't your blog
>>366456
Obviously you did enough to reply to me. Why not come up with a coherent argument instead of being so angry?
>>366454
There have been dozens faglord. The simple fact of the matter is, it can possibly get hiro in legal trouble and that's enough for him to say no. He said no to sound webms because of possible piracy legal issues, theres no way he would even consider a /drug/ board
>>366458
>Obviously you did enough to reply to me
How does that mean that I care about whether or not I sate your definition of a decent argument? Why even bother making /drug/ if all the users are going to be as retarded as you?
>>366461
>it can possibly get hiro in legal trouble
Stop blatenly lying. You can think of something better than that. I'm actually pretty sure there's a good argument against it, but no one has brought a single one up
>>366462
So you're saying you do not have a coherent argument? Well, feel free to leave the thread then
>>366468
>Stop blatenly lying.
How about you stop lying and avoiding lookin at the truth, cockbreath. Weed isn't the only drug and the others are illegal and CAN kill people. You're a fool if you think making a entire board to talk about consuming shit that have a high chance of killing people won't get you in legal problems. Even moreso when your servers are hosted in a country known to do stupid shit like a drugwar
Stop having cognitive dissonance and just deal with the fact most drugs are fucking illegal for a reason and having an entire board dedicated to it can get you in legal troubles. I'm not the one who decides what boards get made, Hiro is, and its obvious he isn't going to put himself at risk for something stupid like a /drug/ board
>>366468
Are you saying that your responses aren't automatic validation for my arguments?
>>366475
Drug discussion is 100% protected by the Constitution of the United States, where 4chan is hosted. If discussing drugs were illegal, why is erowid a thing? Why is blulight a thing? Why is 420chan a thing? Why is grasscity a thing? Why is fuckcombustion a thing? Why are drug related subreddits a thing? They all exist because, and I bet you guessed it, drug discussion is not illegal in any form at all. We're not talking about setting up shop and selling drugs, so your point is moot. Please come up with an actual argument and try again.
>>366481
So "your dumb and I don't like you" is an argument now? Looking really mature there anon.
>>366489
>So "your dumb and I don't like you" is an argument now? Looking really mature there anon.
Your response validates my argument
>>364089
>"Just" increase the moderator work load by like a bazillion percent.
this tbqh. It would be funny to watch hotpockets sweat while people used his anime website to coordinate drug deals
>>363384
What would you possibly discuss other than >"DUDE I FUCKING LOVE WEED"
>>366498
Lol, nice try. You were proven wrong and have nothing else to back your claims. Again, come back when you have a coherent argument.
>>366501
There's more drugs out there besides weed, but even so a few examples were posted ITT
>Drug safety
>Paraphernalia collections
>New vaporizer and device reviews and receptions
>Legalization efforts and news
>Experience reports
>Drug related culture and media
>Homegrowing discussion and tips
>Edible recipe sharing
>Greentext stories
>etc
There's quite a lot that can be discussed
>>366502
More coherent than you are
>>366515
>tfw I triggered someone without even intending to
You keep writing yourself into a corner further and further with every post. You don't have any honor to defend since we're all anonymous, why not just stop posting?
dude bro weed bro lmao bro blaze bro it bro
>>366331
What are they going to defend from that they don't normally defend from? They aren't going to be bombarded because 1 post out of a million had someone asking for pot hookups. Dare I repeat myself? Discussing drugs is not illegal.
Discuss what they are going to defend themselves from.
>>366348
/rs/ wasn't taken away that long ago.
>thats a fact
Okay, because you say so? What kind of legal battles would hiro get in for a /drug/ board?
>>366461
>The simple fact of the matter is, it can possibly get hiro in legal trouble and that's enough for him to say no.
>He once again doesn't explain himself
Essentially: "He'll get into legal trouble because I said so" with nothing to back this up.
>>366608
Alright, my bad.
>>363384
Pothead concentration camps when?
>>367852
When we lose most open-minded people and the rest randomly decides to follow Sharia law.
>>364048
Quality post
And its bearenstein
>>363384
Anti-weed people grew up with someone in their lives having a drug problem. You can always see the anti weed passion
>>366528
Every post you makes lends that much more ethos to my arguments.
>>368024
>Anti-weed people grew up with someone in their lives having a drug problem.
There's a lot of them that didn't and have the knowledge of a 2nd grader when it comes to addiction and drugs.
>>368024
No, you just disgust me on a personal level. Having grown up in a upper class home with actual morals and proper role models it's just sad to see you idiots debasing yourself like that. For instance just a few days ago on my University campus I saw one of your kind sitting in their beat up accident prone car, wearing the most ratty clothing ( tie die shirt, ripped jeans, and a baseball cap backwards) smoking in public. It fouled the air up so bad I had to drive to another parking spot so the seat leather wouldn't absorb the stench. Needless to say I went and found the nearest campus police and pointed them in the right direction. Maybe now he will get help for it instead of continuing in his self destructive ways.
Frankly it shocks me how badly their drug use destroys their impulse control, not to mention their higher functions such as intelligence. All they can do is cry out canned responses that don't even make logical sense.
>>368141
So the only "real" issue that affected you was the guy smoking in public (no one cares about your whiny judgment of someone else's clothing). Smoking publicly is forbidden in legalized states.
Fuck just made a thread about this subject, deleting it now
>>368235
Drug users debase all of human kind through their disgusting habits, just like pedophiles and the like. I was merely commenting on how they almost always look and act like walking piles of refuse as disgusting and dirty as their souls.
>>368267
>debase all of human kind through their disgusting habits
And so does everything else you disagree with. That doesn't mean you should forbid everything you arbitrarily consider to be debasing humanity.
>>368141
>one of your kind
Fuck off retard. Smokers who aren't like this are the majority and they obviously don't stand out therefore you don't pay attention to them nor get triggered by them enough to whine about it here. Basic shit, use your brain.
>Frankly it shocks me how badly their drug use destroys their impulse control, not to mention their higher functions such as intelligence.
Frankly it shocks me how you can be so retarded without any drug usage. You can't even into basic logic. Your rant is completely emotional, don't come here talking about "logical sense".
>>368271
I'm sure you would say that seeing as you can barely function without your dirty habit, but non-dependant people would tend to agree with me.
>>368309
>you can barely function without your dirty habit
You must really be angry at those scary stoners to have thrown such a random and specific assumption in your post like that.
Goodness it sounds like you're talking about heroin here.
My question is why you'd go waste your time and money on drugs since bitorrent exists
>>363384
Hello there user!
I see you have requested a board specifically for illegal substances.
Where as I am not a member of the staff particularly, I can answer you in a two fold manner.
A. If you feel as if your request is validated among a large group of users, please feel free to make the request via the feedback tool, found at www.4chan.org/feedback.
B. As per your request and its likeliness for passage, I'd say its not very likely, due to the nature of the requested board. There would be the assumption that it would essentially be a "mainstream" variation of Silk Road, and to be honest, 4chan does not need more bad press than it already does.
Now, if you are talking about recreational medicinals for the sole purpose of curing certain ailments, I would recommend instead requesting a Hobbies board, and then creating a " Recreational Medicinals" general on it.
That's just my two cents on the matter.
However, I am not a staff member, nor am I nescessarily disagreeing with the intended argument. I am merely pointing out the possible flaws, and telling you the most likely outcome.
Take it for what you will.
I hope this has been helpful!
>>368832
>B. As per your request and its likeliness for passage, I'd say its not very likely, due to the nature of the requested board. There would be the assumption that it would essentially be a "mainstream" variation of Silk Road, and to be honest, 4chan does not need more bad press than it already does.
This has been suggestion and it just sounds like a wild and unvalidated assumption. Online communities may have had a person or two asking for hookups. They never get the dignity of a response and moderation is swift to get rid of them. 4chan has had many threads like those in it's entire past. No one responds to "n e pot? 91210" like you think they would. If the board has janitors and moderators, those threads become even rarer. At most you'll get trolls. There is no reason to believe that anyone would seriously respond to requests for drugs on 4chan, or that most people would be stupid enough to sell drugs via 4chan. Anyone who does is an utter moron.
>Now, if you are talking about recreational medicinals for the sole purpose of curing certain ailments, I would recommend instead requesting a Hobbies board, and then creating a " Recreational Medicinals" general on it.
How about /high/? Your unsubstantiated fear of a mainstream Silk Road and CNN at hiro's doorstep will be eliminated and it would mostly be threads from other high people. Some people suggest that /s4s/ is one but it doesn't even come close. I think /high/ could discuss intoxication and health benefits as well. What are your thoughts on this and when is the last time you've left your house?
>>368852
I believe I can meet you half way on that, and say you should request a Medicine and Health board.
As per the other question, Enough to pay bills, feed my children, and experience a mediocre albeit comfortable married adult life.
>>368859
Would 'Medicine and Health' allow a discussion on a drug such as cocaine or Adderall or even meth if someone wanted to? Or should the name of the board be taken literally and specifically include prescription drugs and maybe weed? I think a board that's open on the type of drugs and allows discussion of drug experiences would be a good focus.
>>368872
Well, since Drug addictions seem to be an issue nowadays especially in the medicinal fields, I wouldn't be surprised to see talk of it, and how to cope with addictions, side effects, what the kids call "straight talk" about using and such.
Of course the image and environment would be directly therapuetic and focused on prevention/healing in nature rather than encouraging drug use.
>>368880
>rather than encouraging drug use
A board with a focus on prevention isn't going to go very far. The board I'm suggesting here wouldn't be about encouraging or discouraging drug use, but rather a more unbiased board that allows both kinds of discussions. It would be a general drug discussion board. I think the main concern everyone has had with the board was with the name and with the idea that everyone would be talking about drugs, but I could see a lot of threads talking specifically about the effects or experiences on them as well.
100% of people i've seen talking about drugs on 4chan were shitty posters so i don't think they should get their own board unless it's desperately needed /mlp/-style concentration
HAHAHA DUUUDE XD
God I fucking hate people that do drugs. Alcohol is fine but other drugs, they just make you stupid.
>>368959
Cigars and shisha is nice occasionally
>>368959
It wouldn't even be bad if it was just that, but many of these drug users are so completely brain dead they refuse to believe it. They come up with all sorts of excuses for why all the evidence pointing to it's maluses somehow don't count. None of which are legitimate anywhere outside of their drug addled minds. .
>>368912
>100% of people i've seen talking about drugs on 4chan
Most of them on /b/. An entire board would be different than your average stoner thread, and I'm sure it would have it's own rules.
>>368959
Alcohol makes you stupid as well. Some people like to take a puff now and then in the comfort of their own homes, it's really childish to hate someone for that.
>>368992
There are countless people who understand the negative effects of marijuana. You don't sound like you really understand marijuana advocates, only stoner stereotypes.
>all these people saying the media will freak out if 4chan adds a drugs-related board
>when /b/ has drug threads and lolicon and shotacon over there all the time
>when the media has never actually specifically focused on the cp that is sometimes posted on /b/
No.
>>369844
So what you're saying is, there's no excuse not to add /l/.
>>369866
Well there's a difference between lolicon and drugs. I think the board I'm suggesting would have far more people and would be a stable board. What would /l/ consist of? Dumping lolicon? Or a board where it's just both lolicon and shotacon?
I think a majority of 4chan users would rather /l/ not be made. And if anyone wants to talk about media backlash: /drugs/ wouldn't get it, but /l/ will. The average unsheltered person isn't surprised by a community that talks about drugs, not while marijuana is a leading topic. They will, however, be surprised by an openly accepted lolicon board. If 4chan ever reaches that point, maybe then some people here will realize that 4chan's media image isn't very important.
moot put 4chan in hiro's hands and while he's not the right man for the job, the responsibility lies on him. With this guy's history and the knowledge of what owning 4chan comes with, I'm sure he knows what he's gotten himself into.
I don't think a legitimate argument against this board has been posted. Shows how much a shit board this is. 90% of you people are shitposting. A board for mods to reply to is unmoderated. A shame.
>>371666
>A board for mods to reply to is unmoderated
This isn't /q/ though. Mods don't come here and look at/reply to threads.
If you want an genuine argument then a reason again't would be that it would be a nightmare to moderate. Have to keep a watchful eye on threads to make sure people aren't trying to sell shit or posting where to get stuff. Then you have threads of people posting pictures of hard drugs they own etc which would also probably fall into the illegal category.
Mods already struggle on the current boards so adding a board that contains illegal substances (yes talking about them may be legal, but posting stuff I mentioned earlier probably isn't) isn't a great idea.
Is the same reason why /l/ won't be made because it would also be a nightmare as people will probably start posting CP etc.
