Why does /pol/ complain that adding a more left-focused board would be making a safe-space/echo-chamber when that's exactly what their board is?
>>362971
>expecting /pol/ to use their brains
what would you would even call a left focused board
\lop\?
>>362971
You don't get banned from /pol/ for expressing left wing views. In fact, everybody will be happy to engage you in arguments and bump your threads. It's just that leftist ideas can't survive where opposing ideas aren't censored, as leftism falls apart in the face of reasonable arguments.
That's literally the only reason /pol/ became right wing: the right is willing to argue and defend their positions using logic. I know, I know logic is sexist and racist, but there is nothing stopping you from posting illogical lefty views on /pol/. Therefore, it's not a "safe space".
>>362978
lmao
/pol/ is right wing because it's contrarian
if /pol/ existed in 1996 it would be ultra left wing, because that was the contrarian viewpoint at the time
keep deluding yourself though kiddo
>>362978
No, instead you just get shouted down and shitposted out
Just likev what /pol/ cries about when it happens to them
>>362980
I was responding to OP who stated that /pol/ was a right wing "safe space" so why couldn't he have a left wing "safe space". I pointed out that there is nothing stopping him posting left wing views on /pol/ (mods won't ban him) and engaging in discussion and thus /pol/ is not a "safe space". Your butthurt blathering about the "contrarian" buzzword doesn't change that fact.
>>362978
Right winged views don't get banned on any boards
The reason you get banned, kleetus, is because you try to talk about it on boards unrelated to it or because of the blatant racism
If you're unable to talk about your views without shouting "da joos" or "niggerniggerniggernigger" maybe you should reconsider your stance
>>362983
>shouted down and shitposted out
You mean argued with and having your ideas challenged? It's funny how /his/ had to ban /pol/acks because the mods couldn't handle ideas that went off-script from their jewish college lies, yet /pol/ doesn't ban anybody - the most logical and reasonable ideas are the ones that survive on /pol/, no need to ban any ideas.
>>362985
Other right winged boards like /k/ are able to talk about their views without getting banned, why aren't you?
Also /pol/ cries for sjw's to be banned all the time, is that not censorship?
>>362990
>Jewish college lies
Maybe you're getting banned not because of your political views, but rather you not being able to talk about them without going off on racist tangents or using boogeymen
>>362994
>Also /pol/ cries for sjw's to be banned all the time, is that not censorship?
No, because they are not banned. Go make a thread about your favorite lefty garbage - maybe something about why taxing the rich at 110% to give free everything to nigs is a good idea - and see what happens. People will drown you in factual reasoning, based on historical and current examples, that show why you are a dumbass. But you won't get censored or even ignored. Now compare that to how right wing ideas are treated outside of /pol/.
>>362985
Keep deluding yourself
It's not the left wing that can't debate without censorship, it's the mainstream that can't
For decades censorship was a right wing phenomenon and it's only recently with radical feminism and shit that so called left wing ideologues even consider censorship to be a good idea
But please, do continue, I enjoy watching kids who can't vote yet babble on about politics
>>362994
/k/ is not a political board. If they want to slip in some political view in their posts, fine. But full on political discussion is not for /k/.
/pol/ doesn't cry ban SJWs nigger. /pol/ cries ban the SJW that tries to shill and don't post anything to support their views.
Why? Because shilling for the hell of it is called blatant shitposting. But don't worry, SJWs are not banned on /pol/, you actually have to try really hard to ever get banned there.
>>363001
This. Censorship isn't exclusive to any political ideology.
>>363001
>It's not the left wing that can't debate without censorship
Well you're in luck. /pol/ is as close to a censorship-free board as you can get. Funny how leftist never seem to post there, though. It's like they get tired of being BTFO by facts and data since their ideologies have done nothing but fail in spectacularly genocidal fashion everywhere they're implemented.
>implying /pol/ wouldn't ban dissenting opinions if they had mod control
>>363000
The same happens to right wing ideas outside of /pol/. The only posts that get banned are those who's only purpose is blatant racism or the poster's inability to talk about it without bringing up "da jews"
>>363002
Firstly, try to use less buzzwords next time. Just because you call a person you don't like a shill doesn't mean you're right and they're wrong. Secondly, since others posting right wing ideologies outside of /pol/ don't count because their board is not about politics, than why should any supposed bans you get count?
>>363001
Then go on /pol/ and enlighten us with the magnificent left wing and all the good that it is doing to the world, it's not like more educated people than you have already tried that.
>But please, do continue, I enjoy watching kids who can't vote yet babble on about politics
smugface.jpg
>>363005
Good thing they don't, right? You'd better go to /pol/ and make some threads showing why leftism is the way to go. Oh wait, you already tried that and got BTFO by facts, so now you are in this thread crying for mods to make you a safe space to pretend leftism isn't retarded.
>>363004
>Some intelligent leftist: Here's some data and my explanation.
>Some intelligent rightist: Interesting. Here's my rebuttal and what I think the conclusion should be.
/pol/ rightist
>fucking subhumans look at their sat scores and crime stats! they should all be genocided. im superior fuck you all
/pol/ leftist
>you're a fucking idiot. ill send you to the fucking gulag fuck you fuck you
/pol/ kids then post ebin maymays and reddit image macros to shut the leftist up
>>363004
Of course we don't, because we remember what the original point of the board was
There are only two types of people who post on /pol/
1) People who ironically spout right wing nonsense to illuminate its absurdity (me)
2) People who are so thick they actually believe we think these things (you)
There is no point in debating you head on, because that was never the point of the board to begin with. Rather it is more amusing to entrap you and get you going, it provides us with a great deal of amusement
I shitpost in favor of Trump all the time, but you really think I'm going to vote for him? hahahahahaha
>>363011
Prove it. Start a thread on /pol/ explaining why socialism is clearly the best thing in the world and put actual effort into outlining your reasoning. You'll get some dismissive replies, but you'll also get plenty of serious replies picking apart your reasoning and showing why you are a moron.
All it takes is you to put effort into expounding a leftist philosophy and tens of /pol/acks will put effort into gleefully and thoroughly showing why you are a moron. Just try it and report back here with screenshots in a couple of hours.
>>363010
>mspaint info graphs are proving people wrong
>>363010
>le false dichotomy maymay :D
>the right is rational, the left is emotional :p
>if you're on the left you're an evil SJW xD
>>363013
>ironically spout right wing nonsense to illuminate its absurdity
That makes so much more sense than completely destroying the nonsense with well-reasoned counterarguments.
>>362998
Thats like banning somebody for using words like "like" or "nigga" when they post their response. You can still understand the post perfectly with it, and it only exist to add flavor.
Sounds like you just want bland BBC-tier monotone talks
>>363020
Do you really think anyone on /pol/ has the mental capacity to understand Das Kapital or the problems inherent with Marxist ideas?
Do you think anyone of them understand the capitalist system or its positive and numerous negative effects on the world?
It's all just a bunch of memes to them. The replies are all, "Communists r evil cuz they killed lotsa people here's pie graph of Nazis vs communists genocide" and ">implying shitskins are people"
>>363022
>the left is emotional
Only when your brain is clouded by emotion and ignorance of facts could you think socialism is a good idea.
>inb4 i'm not a socialist, you don't know what i am therefore i can avoid all criticism and pretend to be objective
>>363027
Firstly, if I'm not socialist, why should I defend it?
Secondly, I know for a fact by your stupid statement that you haven't read any communist or socialist literature and don't realize that socialist programs have worked in conjunction with the capitalist landscape to provide necessary government resources that you likely benefit from. But of course socialism to you is ">hurr durr stalin/mao/castro was evil".
>>363025
>they are too dumb to understand muh marxism
>they are too stupid to understand muh jew system
>they are nothing but ebil nazis and stormfags
Are you even trying at this point?
>>363024
And it sounds like you'd rather use ad hominems than argue logically. Which is why you're on /pol/, I suppose.
>>363025
>Do you really think
I don't know. Go make a thread outlining your support of marxism and "the problems inherent" in it. Then expound upon your theories related to the capitalist system. As long as you don't make it a low-effort bait thread I guarantee you will get educated answers that destroy your leftism once and for all.
>>363023
Why would I want to do that?
I browse /pol/ because it's funny
It's a fucking red board
You don't go to red boards for serious discussion
You would know that if you've been browsing this site for more than a year
>>363033
>You don't go to red boards for serious discussion
You must be from /v/ or /co/ or some other amazing blue board, holy shit.
>>363028
>I know for a fact by your stupid statement that you haven't read any communist or socialist literature and don't realize that socialist programs have worked in conjunction with the capitalist landscape to provide necessary government resources that you likely benefit from
Nice word salad, retard. I'm not going to argue this here, but there is every reason to think those "socialist programs" and "necessary government resources" are a cancer upon a free society. To a junky heroin is a "necessary resource" too. Know what I mean?
>>363035
He stated he's from /pol/ already
>>363029
They really are. Das Kapital is dry and abstract as fuck.
/pol/ is filled with /b/ kids who never grew up and jingoistic old redneck stormniggers with paranoia. Only good thing /pol/ has ever produced are funny images. Worst thing is the shitposts on other boards. Everything else /pol/ has is just pure humor and mockery. Ideologues who don't understand their ideologies following memes produced by trolls from years past.
>>363035
There are far more blue boards that lead to some actual discourse than red boards. Red boards are for turning your brain off to have fun, whine about shit and shittalk others, or masturbate.
>>363033
>You don't go to red boards for serious discussion
kek. You are the one claiming that leftism can survive without censorship. But when you have the chance to discuss leftism on an uncensored board for politcial discussion you pussy out and go full
>m'lady. i am one to ironically spout right wing nonsense to illuminate its absurdity, that is what a true leftist gentleman would do is it not?
instead of arguing your positions in an uncensored fashion.
>>363036
>word salad
Is your reading comprehension that bad?
>there is every reason to think those "socialist programs" and "necessary government resources" are a cancer upon a free society
And there are a multitude of other reasons that it helps societies prosper. And there are many more reasons that the current system is very ineffective and detrimental on the whole.
>to a junky heroin is a "necessary resource" too
:|
>>363041
>A (him): /pol/ is shit and here's why
>B (you): you're a retard fedora. leftism is stupid. post leftist shit and we'll prove it wrong.
>C: Here's some slightly leftist shit
>B (you): How can you believe in that cancer? You're a fucking retard. shit nigger kek
>>363042
>:|
You didn't get it, did you? You're actually too stupid to know what I mean. That's funny.
Also, my reading comprehension is fine. Your buzzword-laden sentence was a confused salad of superfluous $5 words, either you are 15 or some sheltered first year at a lefty echo-chamber college.
>>363048
I think you're too stupid to have read any literature on drug usage or these programs which is why this is such a fallacious comparison.
This is why you guys aren't worth the time.
>>363043
kek. IP count hasn't gone up from 7 for a long time, kid. Nice try with the samefagging, though.
You didn't make any arguments, you just stated that "government resources" must be distributed by socialism and are "necessary" without backing it up. Anyway, go to /pol/ and make a real thread along those lines. I can't be bothered arguing with faggots, but many people on /pol/ will rip you a new asshole.
>>363048
For someone who spends so much time in /pol/ you still haven't learned what an ad hom is
>>363053
Check it out:
>>363043
>>363037
Both of these posts were you trying to samefag support - I can tell because the IP count didn't go up for either of them. I think we know why you're scared of /pol/, IDs mean you can't pretend anybody else thinks you are not retarded.
You goofed really badly, kid. Marx is spinning in his grave.
>>363055
Of course out of all the posts you could have picked from, you picked the two that AREN'T me
Hilarious
>>363058
Nice try, but the IP count remains the same. But you will stick to DENY DENY DENY in the face of all evidence, because you are a leftist who got caught fudging the facts. It's all you can do.
>>363062
Did you ever stop and consider there might actually be two different people arguing with you at the same time from the very beginning of this thread
Maybe I had you figured all wrong and you aren't underage, rather you're one of the worst form of /pol/ user, the paranoid stormfront guy who never figured out "hitler did nothing wrong" was a joke
>>363062
I'm the OP and was one of the posts you linked, Familia
I've been here since the beginning
>>363062
IDs are bad, they said.
They ruin the board they said.
Seriously senpai, don't bother with this.
>>363064
>there might actually be two different people arguing with you at the same time from the very beginning of this thread
Nope. I kept track of everybody posting (keeping an eye on the IP count) and there was only one leftist retard out of the 7 IPs.
>>363062
>>363066
>>363069
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>>363066
The funny thing is I'm not a leftist, I was just pointing out he had already said he was from /pol/
>>363055
Nice try :^)
>>363073
Are you me?
>>363078
all me
>>363078
>multiple people provide proof they're not samefagging
>fucking jews I knew this day would come
>oh god what do I do
>I know, I'll photoshop a screenshot to prove I'm right!
>phew, that was close
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*blushes*
>>363079
Lies.
>>363081
Oy vey.
>>363084
>>363083
>>363079
>I'll start shitposting and spamming
>that'll show those fucking sjw kikes that I'm right and /pol/ is for real discussion
>>363088
>I'll use an anime smug girl pic because I can't explain why communism is good except "read the books"
>implying you can read
>>363088
Seriously now, the thread got derailed when posts about /pol/ being too retarded to understand X came after posts encouraging to go post on /pol/ got treated like bait and ad hominems.
deus vult?
>>362978
this. the left cannot take arguments without saying SHUT UP YOU YOU NAZI-HOMOPHOBE-REPBULICUNT REEEEEEEE so they shut up. no one is silencing them.
/pol/ isn't a safe space, anyone can voice their opinion there whether they're a Communist, Marxist, liberal, or whatever. You will not get censored. And before you say it, disagreement is not a form of censorship.
We do not need to create a safe place for people with a certain political view.
>>363090
>he still is convinced everyone who disagrees with him is that one person
>>363094
>I'm incapable of arguing without using strawmen
>>363097
it was hyperbole but the point remains. disagreement is not censorship
>>363095
And anyone can voice right winged opinions outside of /pol/, you just aren't allowed to shitpost about racism
>>363099
>free to voice any opinions
>except mean problematic stuff :)
>>363098
And /pol/ isn't censored either. You only get banned for screaming niggers or da joos
>>362971
It's a bs argument. Look at cripplechan. They have a lefty pol and a regular one. On the regular one, leftist shit is banned, and the same on lefty pol. You would basically turn /pol/ back into /new/, a right wing echochamber, no more bernie, kek, etc.threads.
>>363102
>screaming ad hominems is vital to me being able to voice my opinions because without my memes I know nothing about the subject
>>363106
>I'm ok to sending people to jail for their thoughts
you are everything that is wrong with this generation.
>>363108
H A T E F A C T S
>>363096
tell me about it
this thread is an insightful look into the mind of your typical neo-/pol/ user
he actually believes the people who appear to agree with him aren't trolls, and is so completely incapable of comprehending the reality of his board he reduces all the trolling to the work of a single individual
>>363109
>he thinks not being able to scream niggers on someone's private property is breaking his freeze peach even though it only protects you from legal consequences
>>363114
you know that hate speech is in fact illegal in some countries, right?
>>363108
You want to know how I know you don't go to /sci/?
The race topic has been done millions of times and has descended to shitposting threads. The same with IQ threads. I posters get banned too
>>363115
>he lives in a third world country without freedom of speech
>>363121
everytime you post an anime image you stay a virgin a year longer
>>363123
Hey don't blame waifus for his stupidity.
>>363116
IQ posters* at the end. Forgot the Q.
>>363123
Wow
You're complaining about anime now too? You really are the quintessential neo-/pol/ user
>>363116
Whatever excuse you want to give, you can't discuss scientific evidence that contradicts liberal dogma on a board supposedly about science.
>>363124
>>363123
>I got proven wrong, better blame anime
>>363130
>I can't read
>>363129
You don't care about science. You care about your agenda.
>>363129
Okay then, let me compare it to /pol/ to make it more understandable
It's like anti-christian/atheist threads or AMWF threads. Can actual discussion happen in those threads? Sure. Are the threads still shitposts? Yes.
Why is it called "/pol/ - Politically Incorrect"?
Didn't moot dislike politicallly incorrect posters, stormfags etc? Why did he give the board a name like this instead of choosing a more neutral name such as:
"/pol/ - Politics"
>>363268
Because it's to show that it's a joke board that no one should take seriously, just like /b/ and /r9k/.
>>363268
Plausible deniability. By putting a joke name, he could claim that the board is satire, so the feds would leave him alone. Same reason /b/ has the "only a fool" tagline.
>>363272
I don't get the joke. So moot didn't like these people and yet he gives them a board with a name they might have picked themselves. Strange.
If he wanted to be funny he could have named it "/pol/ - Politically Correct"
>>363276
>he thinks /pol/ isn't satire
>>362978
/pol/'s definition of arguing is attempting to win a chess game by shitting on the chess board. You don't know anything about reasonable arguments. You haven't even read the communist manifesto or Bakunin/Kropotkin books because it's EVIL COMMIE therefore you can't even argue against leftist ideas without strawmanning and staying in your close-minded view of all leftists being hippies who want to destroy the white race. You barely even understand the political spectrum, and the different (and often opposed) ideologies in it, if at all.
>>362978
Also leftism is about anti-capitalism and different economics systems and social structures which propose an alternative to it (socialism, mutualism, agorism, communism, etc.). It doesn't really have to do with sexism or whatever the fuck your idea of a leftist is. But I can't expect you to understand anything about economics, while you barely understand anything about politics which is supposed to be the main subject of your board. Your board barely qualifies as pop politics.
>>363030
>Which is why you're on /pol/, I suppose.
Ooo I bet that little snarky comeback made you tingle and feel like an internet badass, didn't it? You probably sat their trying to figure out the most snazzy and biting comment you could make in order to get upvotes, getting your websites mixed up.
>>363289
Well it certainly seems to have struck a nerve
>>362971
That would only make things more divisive you should just have leftist opinions on /pol/ and try to actually use facts to support them
>>363355
You mean like the fact whites have lower iq's then both Asians and Jewsm
>>363361
Nice fantasy land.
>>363288
>leftism is about anti-capitalism and different economics systems and social structures which propose an alternative to it
That's the point -- these systems only survive logical rigor in an echo chamber.
>>362971
there's lots of leftists on pol
>>362978
>It's just that leftist ideas can't survive where opposing ideas aren't censored, as leftism falls apart in the face
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
As if /pol/ could ever create a counter-argument past "Ur a JIDF" or "Ur part of teh JOOOS conspiracy to take over the world with de ebil SJWs!!1!".
>>363942
We do post proper counter-arguments from time to time but those are depressing as fuck things for any sane person. So the hordes of leftists who call out nazi get nothing but jidf.
>>362971
>safe-space/echo chamber
I have never understood this, and will continue to never understand why shitposters try to call 4chan these things, do you just not see all the fucking shitflinging everywhere from opposing viewpoints?
Right wing ideas are honest about human nature, while the left wing lives in a fantasy where what feels good is right. That's why the leftists see nothing wrong with taxing the rich at 110% to give unlimited welfare to sheboons. That's why leftists are usually young and well-off, or else older people who managed to spend their lives sheltered from reality in colleges.
And that's why the leftists in this thread won't take up the suggestion to make a well-reasoned lefty post on /pol/. They did not arrive at their conclusions using reason, just feelings. Instinctively they know they would get BTFO on /pol/ if they attempted to seriously argue their positions, so they would prefer to demand a new politics board where dissent is banned.
>>363960
Not 4chan, /pol/
Maybe /co/
>>363966
How fucking stupid are you that you equate not being able to shout "NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER DA JOOS DA JOOS" silencing dissenting or even right wing views?
>>363998
What? This thread is about the fact that /pol/ isn't a "safe space" for "right-focused" ideas. The reasons it appears to be is that "left-focused" ideas cannot survive in an uncensored environment.
>>364041
Got a citation for that extremely certain statement? Or do you have an explanation for how people with leftist views have been on 4chan for years? Unless you wanted to suggest that every board but /pol/ is censored
>>363997
It's the same for /pol/ as well, and you constantly see people saying the same about 4chan in general, often likening 4chan as a tumblr counterpart for replies.
>>364041
The safe space nonsense is bullshit, but /pol/ is the way it is not because the right's arguments are stronger, but because they are too embarrassingly stupid to air without anonymity.
>>364050
>Or do you have an explanation for how people with leftist views have been on 4chan for years?
They petition the mods to ban logic so that their retarded views don't get challenged. What do you think the closing of /n/ and /new/ were about? Leftists tried to make posts on those boards and got continuously BTFO. Same goes for /pol/, but by then joot was tired of deleting boards so he just crippled it with flags and IDs like the joo he is.
>>364066
>ID's crippled /pol/
Oh hello there Pajeet, didn't recognize you
>>362978
i like how every reply to this post isnt trying to prove you wrong but just says "ur a dumb nazi". its like poetry
ITT: people who have never used /pol/ and get all their opinions on /pol/ from what other people on their own boards say about it
Especially >>363942
Because /pol/ isn't a safe space you faggot nigger mong kike pedo
You are free to post as much of your leftist diarrhea all over it as much as you want
>>364066
Stop pretending you're the masters of logic and argumentation. The only thing you do is shit on everything and everyone who goes against the consensus of /pol/. You're pathetic and nobody except your /pol/ friends takes you seriously. There's a reason for this, and it's not a Marxist conspiracy to destroy free speech and the white race.
>>364245
I used to frequent /pol/ and they don't know shit about politics or economics. It's no use trying to argue about anything there, I've given up. They don't really care about arguing not about learning anything; basically a hugbox. Things improved after the worst posters went to 8gag but still.
Because the only way to make it left-focused is to have mods ban or delete posts that are right-wing. You won't get banned on /pol/ for saying niggers are actually not bad.
>>364710
>that image
