/b/ is doing a pretty good job of proving this meme, can /pol/ do any better?
>>81595336
You base your political stance on memes?
Jesus fucking Christ, America. Will you please get your liberal problem under control?
>>81595336
What, no mention of meme magic? Fuck off >>>/b/ack to /b/ faggot
>>81595336
>Social media
>Working for trump
0/10, even before I googled that thing
>>81595336
sage
>>81595475
Meme magic belongs on /b/ too, faggot.
KYS.
>>81595336
>anyone who understands it and says they support trump is a liar
Wew nice no true Scotsman
>>81595336
>meme
what
fuck off
>>81595336
oh yes because liberal arts degree is soooo much better than a trade. /checkmate faggots.
>>81595537
>0/10, even before I googled that thing
Googled what thing? Either you understand it, or you don't. Pretend it isn't in meme form.
>>81595336
>concerted social engineering effort
So? That's all politicians, salesmen, or anyone who wants you on their side. Try again.
9 replies and nobody has fucking mentioned
>PRINCICPLE
>>81595336
Look at the fruits of foreign interventionist bungling, and novel open bordwrs policy and trade deals and ask yourself whether it is Trump supporters or arrogant bought and paid for technocrats that suffer from Dunning Krueger bias
>>81595336
So you mean that I should trust people who are above the law, who COMPLETELY don't give a fuck about humans at all and get away with national treason? Go fuck yourself. Sage.
>>81595336
>The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than it really is.
Oh ok so it's just a "If you vote trump you're a dumb dumb" post.
>>81595336
>Trump
>supported on social media
pick one
>>81596089
bingo
>using the principle of the Dunning-Kruger effect
Nobody knows what that means because it's nonsense
>>81595437
It's hard when kids are taught this bullshit from an early age.
>>81595336
>People actually believing this shit
>>81595336
I don't know what that stupid Jewish so-called "principle" is, but I can say with authority that Donald Trump is a better choice than Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton has shown herself to be a legitimate traitor, selling American uranium and other assets and influence for Clinton Foundation donations, as well as too incompetent to do her job, or even use a classified system in the manner it is supposed to be used.
Donald Trump is how we are going to Make America Great Again. Furthermore, I honestly believe Hillary Clinton will be charged with perjury for lying to congress about her emails, and therefore become ineligible to become president.
>>81595336
Might as well post a "2015 Anglo man" video and say "/pol/ BTFO".
>>81595336
>mispelled words
>big scary words mean you're stupid if you vote for trump
fuck off bait poster the Dunning Kruger Effect isn't Trumps doing, in fact I'd liken that shit more to the left with all their pseudo intellectuals.
>>81595336
Voting isn't a skill you fucking retard. Go back to your community college's psych 101 course
didnt clinton get funding from the saudis. the saudis who funded 9/11
>>81595336
K.. KEEP ME POSTED
>>81596089
>Oh ok so it's just a "If you vote trump you're a dumb dumb" post.
Your oversimplification of the meaning of a small part of the meme, and your copy pasting from Google sorta helps prove the meme.
>I dunno wut it means, so Google.
>>81595437
>/pol/tard getting mad at others for getting their political stance from memes
>>81595336
>Leftists
>Talking about Dunning Kruger
:^)
You are the most unskilled and conceited group in any society, and everyone knows it. I'm pretty sure you couldn't change a lamp if your life depended on it.
This falls under the logcal fallacy of name calling and insults.
Easy.
Next.
>>81597193
>>>81595437
>>/pol/tard getting mad at others for getting their political stance from memes
My guess is that you understand completely.
The meme isn't really anti-Trump, or was not supposed to be. It's just an observation.
>>81597046
>2016
>he thinks knowledge and intelligence are the same thing
>>81595986
Canada is right.
>>81597046
>you're a dumb dumb
Not an argument. Get the fuck off my board, Paco.
>>81595336
REALLY MADE ME THINK
I'M A SHILL FOR HILL NOW
IT'S 2016
saged for low quality bait
>>81595336
My god is that meme retarded.
"Using the principle of the Dunning-Kruger effect"
That makes as much sense as ending it
"Using the principle of the photoelectric effect"
Both are entirely non-applicable to what it's trying to say. Ironically whoever created and supports that meme is exhibiting the Dunning-Kruger effect, they think they're much smarter than they actually are.
Trump's supporters don't claim to support him based on superiority, but because they like his character/policy.
That meme is some next level stupidity.
>>81595336
social media worked well for bernie
>>81597046
Even in the highest levels of academic discussion and publications sources have to be cited for people to look them up and grasp every detail.
Your poor grasp at how intellectual discussions work is not something you should be proud of.
In the very least, Trump voters are going for a candidate that reflects their belief. Clinton voters have extreme cognitive dissonances I would love to point out if you care to reply to this post.
Whoa
My brain is really think.
I'm now a #HillDrill
>>81597046
>Making fun of someone for looking up something they don't know
>Implying everyone should just innately know all aspects of social science
You're an arrogant retard.
>>81595336
the Mexican "intellectual" who created this sure had his very own Dunning-Kruger moment
i am #MentallyHill now
>>81597648
It's a meme. It's a gigantic oversimplification of what's been happening that has allowed Trump to get the nomination. It has nothing to do about Hillary or the other candidates at this point.
I agree that Trump voters are "going for a candidate that reflects their belief," but the problem is that the support began at the left (of the bell curve), is being perpetuated and fueled via mass media and social media for various reasons. All candidates have their own baggage, but in any other election up until now (at least in the U.S.), a candidate that says, does, thinks and writes what Trump has, would never have made it half-way through the primaries.
>>81595336
wtf i just got btfo'd, i am now a #cruzmissile.
>>81598296
You and most of the "political experts" out there still seem to be unaware that your society can be angry at the current state of affairs, and would vote on a candidate with more conservative/extreme views, by their own volition.
Not everyone likes diversity and all that, but they could go for most of their lives without thinking too much about this. Add in some #BlackLivesMatter, some ISIS threats, terrorist attacks internationally and nationally, and you now have a person who is willing to vote for Trump.
What you seem to be crying about is that politicians use social media to promote themselves. If this was a couple years ago would you complain they use TV to promote themselves? Radio? Cars with loud speakers?
>>81598296
You are effortfully restating the lies that Trump supportersare stupid, that education is intelligence, and that Trump is somehow illegitimate in a way that the Saudi puppets, neocons and banksters are not.
You don't really have a point, do you?
>>81598296
Once again you pretend to be smarter than you actually are.
You miss a singularly important factor that led Trump to be where he is, and that is decades in the media spotlight. That is his years on the apprentice.
He's treated this whole campaign like a reality TV show, because it essentially is. His already large fanbase as well as experience in making entertaining television is probably the most important reason why he's gotten so far.
But you can't even recognize that on your own.
>>81595336
Pretty true.
>consume only leftist and mainstream media
>dont even bother with keeping yourself up to date or getting more in-depth knowledge because TV is enough
>get all your confidence from having the same opinion as everybody else in your social bubble
>call others ignorant and lose your shit over differing opinions
not even mad, just depressed.
>>81595336
GEEZ OH MAN YOU GUYS
WOW, THIS IS JUST NUTS
I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY HOW MUCH THIS MADE ME THINK
>>81595986
The leaf gets it
>>81598798
I'm not crying, I'm just making an observation. You can't even say anything half-in-jest on 4chan and not be demonized by anonymous users, but Trump is fully able to do or say anything he wants, and has been for months. There are people being fired for saying similar things, people being ostracized, people being slandered, but he just keeps getting away with it.
Not saying I care or am offended by him, I just find it extremely profound that he's still around. I sorta wanna be like him when I grow up, sorta.
>>81598869
>Once again you pretend to be smarter than you actually are.
>You miss a singularly important factor that led Trump to be where he is, and that is decades in the media spotlight. That is his years on the apprentice.
>He's treated this whole campaign like a reality TV show, because it essentially is. His already large fanbase as well as experience in making entertaining television is probably the most important reason why he's gotten so far.
>But you can't even recognize that on your own.
Seems like you understand the point of the meme. Thanks, one of the better explanations (though incomplete) that I've seen. Congrats.
>gif
>2016
>>81598869
because where is the difference between a naive academic like obama winning the presidency on oratorical talent and abstractly charming behaviour in debates and Trump just doing his thing and getting people to vote for him using equally superficial talents?
>>81599388
>There are people being fired for saying similar things, people being ostracized, people being slandered, but he just keeps getting away with it.
This all applies to Hillary as well. She lies about being under sniper fire, gets away with it. Brian Williams mixes up a few details and nearly loses his job.
She does a bunch of shit that other people would be indicted or at least punished for, she gets off scott free.
Seems Hillary gets away with more.
>>81599888
>because where is the difference
Obama had the media shilling for him and making him look better than he actually is.
Trump has the media shilling against him and trying to make him look bad, and Trump still beats them.
>>81595624
/pol/ and /tv/ created meme magic.
/b/ is recycling garbage memes that /s4s/ doesn't want anymore.
>>81599388
He is skilled in playing with people's anger. The fact you see this is already a point against Dunning Kruger.
The other candidates are only still there because of the Establishment. There is literally no reason for Hillary not to be under judgement and out of the race right now besides being the establishment choice, and "omg guyse can you imagine having a female president XDDD".
>>81599933
But the difference is, Hillary is a career politician, acting no different than she (and most other politicians) have for years. Trump basically has no qualifications or previous knowledge of anything having to do with running any country, other than experience in business. Which can't be discounted as useless, but should not be given more importance than it deserves.
>>81595336
I feel like I'm not moronic enough to understand what this meme means since it essentially is nonsensical. Guess I've already lost.
>>81595336
So he can't be a president because he trusts too much in the ability of others to make good choices, such as the whole democratic party?
Okay, I can live with that.
>>81595336
Can we copy this meme and put Hillary in it instead?
>>81600860
We have better Hillary memes, we don't need to try to steal this idiotic one. As I said earlier this thread, it's not even using the Dunning-Kruger effect correctly, it's basically gibberish trying to sound smart. If anything I would say it was made to highlight how stupid people against Trump are that they share this meme without understanding the Dunning-Kruger effect.
>>81595336
>>81595336
I think that meme is a projection.
There are an awful lot of liberals who believe that they know what's best for the world
>>81595986
rlly mks u thnk
>>81595336
No true Scotsman and the emperors new clothes all wrapped up in one?
What a spicey pic
I'm voting for him because Hillary Clinton is a bitch and I couldn't stand another four years of a weak pandering president that inadvertently preaches against me and people like me
>>81601544
>>>81595336 (OP)
>I think that meme is a projection.
>There are an awful lot of liberals who believe that they know what's best for the world
Bernie almost pulled it off on the left, but he was far far away from what Trump is achieving at this point.
Imagine a full blown Communist with views as far left as Trumps are to the right. See?
>>81595336
By this logic, Stephen Hawking and Einstein were retarded because they knew they were intellectually superior to everyone else and didn't doubt themselves.
>>81595336
>Dunning-Kruger effect.
I see this shit pushed on Reddit since I begun to play Dota 2.
Years after I stopped using both these retards keep pushing thinking that makes them looking intelectual when they just are delusionnal smart asses that nobody want to fuck.
>>81595336
Oh boy, there's a lot of faux intellectual baggage to unpack here
>The only reason Trump is still in the race is because of a concerted social engineering effort
Wow, that's a pretty big claim (for you), I would be very interested to hear who is behind this and what they believe will be the benefits. It seems to me that most of the political establishment would rather Trump never got close to the whitehouse.
>achieved largely via social media
yes social media has become very important in modern society but you're still really overestimating the power over popular culture and modern life it actually has. Also most people who actively and regularly use social media are anti-Trump, yes a lot of them may actually support Trump as the silent majority is very much on his side but the consensus one would see at a glance at any mainstream social media platform would be that Trump is a terrible person and should not become president.
>using the principle of the Dunning-Kruger effect
I'm just going to assume you got the wrong effect here, because if you did mean this one you're effectively saying that people who vote for Trump are doing so because they think of themselves as better at what they do than they actually are, and that this attitude they hold was created by to much time on twitter. If you said that most Trump voters suffered from this effect I could accept it as a cheeky jab saying Trump voters are unintelligent, but to say that this is why they vote the way they do is ironically an example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. You're think you're much more intelligent than you are, but your incorrect use of language you think makes you sound clever only shows how stupid you really are.
8/10 I put way more time into replying than I should have
>>81597046
>I dunno wut it means, so Google.
did you just make fun of the concept of learning? you're a retard.
>>81598296
>but in any other election after 1963 (at least in the U.S.), a candidate that says, does, thinks and writes what Trump has, would never have made it half-way through the primaries.
fixed. There's nothing wrong with putting America's interests first
All these fallacies and effects are always just reddit-tier cop outs and really need to stop being used
I don't know why people think politics is some hard job you need to be super skilled at. What do you do in politics? You meet important people, negotiate deals, and make decisions.
Now tell me, as a businessman, what has trump done his entire life?
>>81595336
>understand dunning Kruger
>still support trump
I guess I am a liar.
>>81595336
Oh fug I support Hillary now
>open the borders
>bring in 5x more Muslims
>castrate all white males
>make sure my wife gets impregnated by a BBC
>>81602592
B-b-b-but, he isn't a career politician!!!
>>81602011
I don't pretend to be amazingly clever, but you have to look at the statistics behind each of the points that trump is making.
Do you disagree with the fact that the outsourcing of manufacturing has resulted in massive unemployment in the rust belt and midwest?
Do you disagree with the fact that illegal immigration and an unsecured border has allowed criminals and drugs to get into the USA?
Do you disagree with the assertion that the USA needs to get rid of trade deals that negatively impact their business and worker base?
Do you disagree with the fact that black people commit a disproportional amount of crime compared to their true numbers?
>>81602592
I agree with your sentiment but do not say politics is easy. Politics is a literal arena of people competing to be the most powerful person in the world, in America. Trump is suited for the task BECAUSE it is so difficult, only he can do it.
>>81595336
Let's see the proof then.
Seeing as nobody here has yet to give a concise answer on the meme in question, I guess I have to debunk it.
>lel trump is using dunning kruger.
Yes he is.
>lel if you say you still support trump ur a liar hahahahaha.
What this meme has done is effectively gotten rid of the 1 argument that would have effectively destroyed this argument/meme. I'm going to choose to ignore this tid bit because the only reason it's there is to mindfuck and shoot down any counter to the meme/arument.
Now let me masturbate to my anime porn you fucking mongrel.
>>81601544
This
>>81602969
I know it's not easy, I just meant so difficult in the sense trump is out of his league. It's essentially the same thing he's done through growing his businesses. Meet people, negotiate, make decisions. There's not much to it outside of that and press conferences*
*unless you're Hillary Clinton
>>81595336
I think OP demonstrates this effect but I think that was his intention.
>>81595336
Actually, it's due to the Actor–observer asymmetry phenomena and acute Anosognosia in college educated liberals.
College education these days provides a self-serving bias where people who paid to get taught the right opinions for 4 years believe themselves to be superior to those who didn't waste a small fortune on an underwater basket weaving degree and learned a proper trade or entered the workforce immediately because real work experience is worth 2:1 what education is.
>>81597642
Dunning-Kruger effect is the inability for people to understand their ignorance and how it affects their support and interpretation of choices. This dynamic is what let those ignorant feel more confident in their understanding of things than those with expert domain knowledge. Trump is not a politico, he made a lot of small mistakes in his understanding of american government (more than what any sophomore political science student would make).
>>81595336
Wtf, I hate Trump now.
I am now #MentallyHill
>>81602146
>>>81595336 (OP)
>By this logic, Stephen Hawking and Einstein were retarded because they knew they were intellectually superior to everyone else and didn't doubt themselves.
So you don't understand. It's OK.
>>81595336
>Switch meme from Trump to Bernie.
>sit back and kek
>>81602197
eh, you're sorta understanding it. The political establishment has little (probably nothing) to do with the social engineering that's driving this.
I applaud you for actually trying to think. But think more money and less politics.
>>81599888
There is no difference. Both aren't exactly pillars of competency, but here is the catch everyone in pol seem to forget. politicians pass laws those laws are implemented by technocrats. technocrats also supply research and insights for the politicians. The US has huge infrastructure to study and understand their economy, global place in the world, threats of all sorts. Presidents and politicans are provided with briefs, and just make a decision.
more like dunning-nigger effect
>>81603455
>paid to be taught the right opinion
>posted by someone who never attended college
no.... son, college doesn't teach you that. maybe community college does, but university in the humanities departments is about the sophistry that the 'defoo' man is all about.
>>81603754
nice job not understanding the Dunning Krueger effect
>>81603670
>>81604270
Are you choosing Hillary over Trump?
You do know he is the only one speaking about borders right?
Dunning-Kruger is about people over estimating or under estimating their own skills... what does that have to do with people who support Trump?
>>81595336
>princicple
>icple
Image tryna be a smartass but cannot spell. Eat my shit.
>>81604515
The *macro* is stating trump people think they know what's best for the entire country, even though they can't be capable of that.
This *macro* is so garbage you could replace any politicians name in that and it'd be the same
>>81597046
Distilling something into simplicity is an act of intelligence actually. Criticizing someone for researching an unfamiliar term is just your own personal bitterness.
>>81602967
I agree with all those for the most part, but just because I agree, doesn't mean I would support someone based solely on the fact that they say something I agree with.
>>81602967
Has Trump even talked about that last one?
>>81595336
So is the joke that shitlibs who don't understand it will post it anyway in an attempt to troll Trump supporters, shooting themselves in the foot?
How many levels of irony are you on /b/tard?
>>81595336
From what I remember, DK effect is basically a more subtle version of grandiose delusions. It affects unskilled people. Now, I'm a Britfag, but I still love Trump, and I wish the Americans the best of luck in November!
>>81605033
He posted one /pol/ infographic about it on his twatter, also made a mention about it a couple of years ago.
>>81603455
>Actually, it's due to the Actor–observer asymmetry phenomena and acute Anosognosia in college educated liberals
I'm thinking that if applies to a great majority of the citizenry across the board, educated or not, conservative or liberal, everyone. Trump is benefiting from this, as is Clinton.
What are some normie bastions that you guys subtly redpill with ammo from /pol/?
> characteristic of Donning-Kruger is that people of low competency fail to recognize competency in others
> OMG TRUMP IS A LITERAL IDIOT
eheheh. ehhehehheheh.
>>81595336
I support Donald Trump because I don't want to die defending the constitution because some pencil neck faggot decides to interpret the second amendment incorrectly to circumvent properly amending a constitutional right. If somehow there is anything intelligent to be taken from that meme is that stupid people are the quickest to call someone a dumb dumb in a smartsy pants way and be cocky about it.
>>81603901
>>Switch meme from Trump to Bernie.
>>sit back and kek
But Bernie isn't on the ticket, sorta proving my point and showing how accurate it is my showing that Trump is benefiting more than Bernie did.
>all these angry trumpcucks
wew lad
>>81595336
Looks like the product of a liberal arts degree, a lot of text to say nothing more intelligent than "YOU'RE AND IDIOT".
WALL/10
>>81604906
>Distilling something into simplicity is an act of intelligence actually. Criticizing someone for researching an unfamiliar term is just your own personal bitterness.
You didn't understand the argument, or the contents of the meme even, so you researched it. That's fine, but you missed the point after learning a little bit and then attempt to simplify it into a "dumb dumb" message....or whatever you said.
Modern western culture IS superior.
Accept that, come out of your caves.
Or throw away all your nifty gadgets and GTFO of our internet.
>>81605971
-1/10 made me reply
>>81605166
>So is the joke that shitlibs who don't understand it will post it anyway in an attempt to troll Trump supporters, shooting themselves in the foot?
>How many levels of irony are you on /b/tard?
I would not encourage anyone to use it, unless they fully understand what it means completely. Only if they knew what was driving the social engineering, why, and how it was being done and how it relates to the Dunning-Kruger Effect and how what was driving it is using the effect and the end goal.
There's enough other memes that libtards can use.
Iconic liberal classist snobbery. The cognitive dissidence is strong in this one.
Guys, I see my liberal "friends" on Facebook shit on Trump on a daily basis, but whenever I asked what was fascist about him, their answers were pitiful and embarrassing. They literally couldn't do more than quote some article they had read. When I insisted and argued a little, neutrally, they just embarrassed themselves to death; I had to stop, I was feeling bad for them.
Still, what do people reproach Trump with really? I mean on the level of ideas and program and all. What do they dislike about him?
If anyone here is against Trump and are willing to explain, I'll listen to you seriously.
>>81606486
its not even bait
you guys got so upset over a retarded picture that doesnt mean shit
i hope trump loses to see how you faggots react
>>81595336
this has to be one of the memes created by Hillary's millennial meme team top kek weak meme Praise Kek REEEEEEEEEEE
>>81595336
>Trump
>social engineering
Yo, uh, nice meme, but you put Trump, not Hillary.
>>81606659
I don't think you understand the DK effect yourself, I think the jokes on you and you've yet to realize it.
>>81595336
Huh... that made me think
>>81607011
Now this is classier bate I can bite. I haven't seen one person who is obviously angry in this entire thread. Please name point 1 person out.
>>81607396
Jesus christ I fucked that so hard
>>81604454
I'm an american. I voted in the NY primaries as a registered republican. I am for Trump, but the man is no expert in anything. Neither is Hillary. What makes government work is the technocrats. The politicians are just an avatar of the people.
>>81604515
>Ignoring the dynamic that produce the bias
>Social engineering
BY WHO
Are Hillary supporters insinuating the media companies are promoting Trump? Wow that's pretty antisemetic desu
I didn't know Hillary people are like that racist. I guess I'm now a #Anti-PersonnelStein
>>81607396
>>81607483
proven
you were so mad you fucked up your post
>>81595336
>Well, you see, the reason why people disagree with me is because they're dumb
>implying dunning-kruger isn't the biggest illusory superiority in existence
Too bad this won't spread because it's not colourful and flashy enough for facecuck, this shit has a ''4chan look'' to it.
>>81600469
It's funny because it's true
Accept, you are unable to create something new, something original. You are just jealous of our success and start to freak out because of this.
Thinking in ways "if i can not have it you can not have it" leads to you going over the board for good.
You are doing something wrong, fix your attitude and figure out what it is.
Things in life are earned not gifts from various Allahs.
>>81597046
>your counter-argument just proves MY argument!
Opinion discarded
>>81607642
>b-but I'm laughing
>>81606944
That's the thing though, I have super liberal friends who can't construct an argument beyond 'muh feels' and 'literally hitler' without any sort of reasoning or examples.
I'm pretty ashamed to be associating with so many sheep.
So it boils down to "hurrdy hurr hurr ur stupid"?
What a waste of a meme.
>>81606944
People in america do not consume media like people outside of America. They are deeply trapped into their respective ideological echo chambers and news bubbles. the nuts and bolts of governance is something beyond comprehension of the regular folk. This is because governance is more complex than ever and also because of the media landscape. So they consume opinion pieces from 'thought-leaders' who do the thinking/opinion-forming for their consumption. this is why the average voter cannot comment or form opinions that aren't a mere repetition of what was stated in the media.
The capacity of critical thinking has devolved to the capacity of taking a position relative to some narrative as fed to them via their respective media outlets. It's affective politics at its worse. Feels instead of reals
>>81607011
How about .. we go on earned vacation and let you run the society for a month.
Doing nothig.
Not sabotaging but just reading or fishing or whatever we want but not helping you in any way. We can manage it.
Want this? Think hard.
>>81604991
So you'd rather support someone who doesn't even admit these problems exist? You have the choice of trump who at least admits these problems exist (while his methods are debatable) or Hillary who'd rather take money from anyone and pander to whoever will vote for her. Pic related
>>81607011
>its not even bait
The whole thread is a bait-thread.
It's trolls trolling trolls - better known as a slide-thread.
>>81595336
>hurr durr trump supporters are uneducated and stupid XD
>>81607964
It's a modern art meme, you just wouldn't understand these things.
Solid color canvas/10
>>81595986
>a fucking leaf
Retards
The Thread
>>81595336
no trump winning is destiny
>Donald Trump Michael Pence
anagrams to
>Red pill meme toad can punch
Praise kek
>Donald Trump make america great again
anagrams to
>A meme magic toad and a partaking ruler
>>81608541
>So you'd rather support someone who doesn't even admit these problems exist? You have the choice of trump who at least admits these problems exist (while his methods are debatable) or Hillary who'd rather take money from anyone and pander to whoever will vote for her. Pic related
Rather is such a strong word.
The notion that Trump doesn't stand to directly benefit financially from wining (or losing or whatever at this point) is ridiculous.
>>81597910
this
at least he bothered to learn what it means, if he were a clinton supporter he would have said 'only nerds know this xB i hate whitey'
>>81595336
>posting trump in order to get people to stop posting trump
???
>Under U.S. liberal law, you must only vote for a president with a minimum of 15 years of public service
>>81595336
>lol it's just a prank bro
>>81595336
So what this really says is niggers know they are worthless, so they vote to be taken care of.
Poor white people don't know they are worthless, so they get "tricked" into thinking they can get themselves out by voting for jobs?
>>81597365
no it isn't. its a picture made by someone who typed "fun"
ITT: the dunning-kruger effect causes op to use the dunning-kruger effect to explain trump voters
but what if the dunning-kruger effect causes me to explain how the dunning-krger effect causes op to use the dunning-kruger effect to explain trump voters
we can go in circles where each of us calls each other too uninformed to grasp the level of conversation and end up just never believing or listening to anything
>board full of underage children
>calling others "dumb"
I grew out of that shithole when I was 16, I'm now 21 and have never gone back. Nothing of creative or intelligent has ever originally came from that board.
>>81610053
That's because you're supposed to make it happen yourself. Now /b/ is mostly for porn. Sad.
Reminds me of an argument I go in on facebook with an ultra liberal friend of a friend. He loved the term Dunning Kruger Effect so much it was in almost every other sentence. It wasn't even making a point, instead it was used, like in the OP image, as a more intelligent sounding way of saying "you just believe that because you are dumb", without actually arguing any points.
>>81600675
Yes, career politicians sure have been doing a bang up job thus far, haven't they?
>>81609286
I'm saying It's one or the other. No third party candidate will win and Hillary is hell of a lot more shitty than trump.
>>81595624
>>81600469
>>81607722
>it's our meme
>no its OUR meme!
How about you both fuck off back to plebbit?
>>81595336
>"only dumb people vote for trump, I'm not a dumb-dumb, i'm smart so I will vote for hillary"
This principle is much more applicable to hillary supporters, they are the ones with the "illusory superiority".
West and East coast elites who look down on middle america
>>81609434
>at least he bothered to learn what it means
Well, he sorta learned the definition of one term, learning a meaning is not understanding.
>>81609461
>>>81595336 (OP)
>>posting trump in order to get people to stop posting trump
>???
I never said I wanted to get people to stop. I'm sorta enjoying this whole election cycle....which is partially the point on the OP.
>>81595336
>dunning krugger effect
No presidential candidate, president or voter has ever been an expert at all there is or could possibly be in the political remit of the POTUS. This is why all candidates try to pander to populism within their target audience.
>concerted social engineering effort
Post proofs. Perhaps people are fed up with the status quo, perhaps trump's stance actually speaks to people's real desires.
>>81610030
>ITT: the dunning-kruger effect causes op to use the dunning-kruger effect to explain trump voters
Not even reading the rest of your post, because I wasn't explaining Trump voters. You don't get it.
Good job retards.
>>81595336
Ok, well answer the begged question.
What about politics do you understand that Trump voters do not?
>>81610711
>This principle is much more applicable to hillary supporters, they are the ones with the "illusory superiority".
>West and East coast elites who look down on middle america
Applicable to another group? They are part of the group in their own ways. This isn't a left or right issue. If you think that it is, you don't understand.
>>81595336
Being leftist I stand with people who doesnt know about elitarian jewish shit like this
>>81611452
>Being leftist I stand with people who doesnt know about elitarian jewish shit like this
Time to go right, then, because the left stopped caring about people once they got power and money.
>>81611276
>What about politics do you understand that Trump voters do not?
I understand a lot more about politics than a lot of people. A lot more people understand a lot more than me, a lot more. You're missing the point. Try to look at the meme and the current status of the campaign without prejudice, anger, hate or any type of subjective lens.
Who is benefiting from Trump's status right now and over the past few months? Who will continue to benefit? Whether or not he wins or loses is irrelevant. Whether his views are right or wrong is irrelevant.
>>81611760
>Time to go right, then, because the left stopped caring about people once they got power and money.
You're getting warm.
>>81603670
>Trump is not a politico
Last I checked you weren't required to be a politician to run for president.
Career politicians have shown time and time again that they're failures at understanding what people want and acting upon it, instead they act in their own interests, if anything the fact he's not a politician gives people more reason to vote for him because he might actually support them.
>>81611875
The answer is Israel
>>81596089
>>81597046
Dunning-Kruger, just like most theories in psychology, is probably complete bs. Psychology has some serious methodological problems and is, fortunately, in the midst of a revolution to resolve some of these troubles. But for the time, just remember all psychology and most other social science theories are probably crap that will be thrown out with new statistical models and improved peer review.
>>81595437
You base your political beliefs on an anonymous internet board?
>>81611875
>I understand a lot more about politics than a lot of people. A lot more people understand a lot more than me, a lot more. You're missing the point. Try to look at the meme and the current status of the campaign without prejudice, anger, hate or any type of subjective lens.
>Who is benefiting from Trump's status right now and over the past few months? Who will continue to benefit? Whether or not he wins or loses is irrelevant. Whether his views are right or wrong is irrelevant.
"fluff fluff, skirt the issue, bullshit, dodge".
Answer the question. You are claiming superiority. Demonstrate it.
>>81607396
>wipe your miserable ass of the face of the continent
pls fix
>>81612281
Last time a non-political person was president, he got shot.
Kennedy was in the army originally. How come generals don't run for president?
Look at the Chinese government and you'll understand everything.
>engineer
>scientist
>actual jobs with high demands
America only has lawyers, businessmen, and professional politicians. I'd take businessmen over the other two.
>>81599388
>There are people being fired for saying similar things, people being ostracized, people being slandered, but he just keeps getting away with it.
Who's going to fire him?
How would ostracising effect him?
How would slander be any different from what's already happening?
He doesn't get away with it, he's immune to it.
>>81595336
>using the word meme to describe oc to make a meme
kys
>>81611279
It's a class war issue isn't it and you're trying to say it's the Bourgeoisie that are the problem
I want to vote for trump because I hate niggers and pakis
r8
>>81598019
Did she died?
>>81602592
Oh. Like Berlusconi? Well, how'd that work out?
>>81613448
>Last time a non-political person was president, he got shot.
You're forgetting Reagan, he was an actor. Besides, from my understanding Trump has had threats on his life since before the primaries to the point where he was given Secret Service detail.
>How come generals don't run for president?
Probably because it takes a certain type of person to become president and they generally avoid the military since it endangers their ladder climbing.
And you're right, the lack of people with actual jobs running for president is saddening, the only other I can think of is McAfee.
>>81595336
The Dunning-Kruger effect falls more in line with min. wagers seeking higher wages for menial work.
If anything they are a product of the Cloward-Piven strategy, and anyone that knows what that is wouldn't vote Democrat.
>>81613448
Ike and Ulysses Grant come to mind... and George Washington.
>>81614806
>You're forgetting Reagan, he was an actor.
You're right.
>>81615347
Everything works better when a military person is in charge. Or so I believe.
>>81614806
but he wasn't a complete politcal virgin when he became president. He was Gov of California.
>>81614034
mmm.. not even bait.
>all this jewish pathologizing of non-kosher thinking
Just because someone supports Donald Trump does not mean they suffer from Dennis whatever condition. Just because someone believes the twin towers were brought down with explosives since nanothermite was found at the scene does not make them paranoid schizophrenics. And when there are clearly animals and manmade object in the alleged mars mission Curiosity by NASA scammers it's not collective pareidolia. Fuck off with your pseudoscience you smug useful idiot.
>Dunning (((Kruger))))
>>81595336
soo trump is overestimating blacks ability to live in modern society so i shouldnt vote for him?
Is this shillary team's response to all the recent memes of her?
>>81615985
Let me guess... just because someone believes the Earth is 6000 years old becasue there are 'human like' footprints next to dinosaurs does not mean they suffer from Dunning Kruger effect? Careful there, you're legitimizing creationists, homeopathy practicioners and astrologists.
>>81595336
>/pol/ BTFO
This thread is hilarious.
>>81595624
>KYS
>/b/
You have to be 18 or over to post in this board
>>81595336
Dunning Kruger effect has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's campaign strategies
how does overestimating my aptitude have anything to do with which President I'm going to vote for?
I'm starting to think the creator of this meme, who apparently can't spell, thinks that effect means something it doesn't.
voting for him because of his social stances and foreign policy
and the fact that he isn't shillary
that last reason alone would have made me vote for him no matter what
>>81615985
>from Dennis whatever condition.
I laughed way harder than I should have. Dennis whatever condition. I'm keeping it.
>>81595336
/b/ is a failed board. They used to be the home and breeding ground for the old "anonymous" , final boss of the internet.
The "Dunning Kruger Effect" is an effect were individuals miscalculate their own ability level to complete a task due to ignorance of the abilities required to complete said task. It has nothing to do with judging another person's ability level.
Why is /b/ such a shit hole? Why did they "fail" as a board? I mean, it really should just be removed from 4chan as a board at all.
Maybe it was the fall of lulzsec that caused their infinite spiral into what is now /b/ and "AnonOps" ?
AnonOps are SJWs pretending to be hackers, I don't think anyone with any ability to penetrate systems would be caught within 100 miles of their shity little social justice events.
Maybe /b/ and "anonymous" could of lasted longer if they didn't fall for the centralization meme.
However, let's face it, it was alwayse just a matter of time.
It was just a matter of time before some psycho little 12yr old Anon started doxing girls who showed tits, guaranteeing tits would basically never be shown again.
Once the tits were gone, once there was no board mascot for /b/, I think most of the quality users just up and left.
It's impossible to keep a board Anonymous and keep out the psychos at the same time.
R.I.P. /b/
>>81595336
Just google the fucking effect and you realise you lose by saying yeah I understand it.
The problem with this shitty meme is that it deals in absolutes.
>>81595336
>I'm one of the folks who underestimates their aptitudes
>still voting for the God-Emperor
>>81612727
Well, you can easily see it for yourself by going to forums of any competitive team video game and see people trying to justify their low ranking.
>>81595336
Ah! Do you not see i have painted you silly Trump supporters into a corner? With my unchangeable superiority, my utmost linguistic dexterity and absolute mastery of the capabilities of philosophy and human faculties, I have won everything. Do you not see that any possible fact or opinion is negated by the usage of this maymay? You cannot recover from my Exodia. If you want to challenge me any other time and fail, you may find me at your local hatter extravaganza
>>81595336
wtf i love ignorance now
also sage
>>81616956
I'm the leader of anonymous.
You and the rest of the board have been warned.
The 'you peasants are too stupid to vote' meme has really gone in to overdrive since brexit passed
>>81595336
>The study was inspired by the case of McArthur Wheeler, a man who robbed two banks after covering his face with lemon juice in the mistaken belief that, because lemon juice is usable as invisible ink, it would prevent his face from being recorded on surveillance cameras.
When life gives you lemons...
>>81595336
I know what the dunning-kruger effect is. I'm voting for Trump because he's a fascist.
>only idiots vote Trump
>>81616694
>and the fact that he isn't shillary
This is all it amounts to, he isn't Hillary and he wasn't Bush.
No one's voting for Trump for any other reason than the lulz. It's just a big ol' "FUCK YOU, WATCH ME VOTE FOR THE CIRCUS CLOWN. WHO GIVES A SHIT, NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE ANYWAY!!!!"
OP's a fucking moron.
>>81595336
This is kind of true, but he actually used some very smart people. He used twitter trolls from the old alt right, before it was destroyed by Milo, to make memes and spread his message. After he locked up the primary, he completely abandoned them and chose a cuck for his VP to win back the conservative base of the republican party. The people the trolls brought to Trump don't care about this at all. They love Trump now and nothing at all will change that. These are the Dunning-Kruger types, the people Milo used to subvert the alt right, and they are the people who have taken over /pol/. If you haven't noticed this, you haven't been paying attention.
>>81595879
came here to say this
the text itself is pure pseudo-intellectual sophistry
>>81595437
>princicple
>>81617926
>allow women to vote
>they vote to make it so no one can vote
>>81595336
I hate people who happened to stumble across the wiki page for any psychological phenomenon and then try to shove it into every single situation for the next three weeks in an attempt to look smart
>>81612727
this desu.
Psychology is a meme
>>81612727
There's some truth to it, it's why we have the old adage "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". There's also the connection to Socrates: the truly wise knows that he knows nothing.
Sad thing is, the DK effect has literally nothing to do with anything here, since it's about overestimating your own skills and knowledge.
>>81618506
Just goes to show thst anything 4chan touches is filled with filth and degeneracy.
/pol/ will try to deny it but 4chan was always a liberal degenerate place. Real conservativea hate it for a good reason and really I'm beinning to see how much it's corrupted people and starting to outgrow it.
OPs post is just a kafkatrap
if you agree, it proves you're in the wrong
if you disagree, it proves you're in the wrong
its just a bullshit arbitrary distinction.
>>81595336
Anyone who looks up the wikipedia page for the Dunning-Kruger effect knows it has nothing to do with his campaign:
"Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:[4]
-fail to recognize their own lack of skill
-fail to recognize the extent of their inadequacy
-fail to accurately gauge skill in others
-recognize and acknowledge their own lack of skill only after they are exposed to training for that skill"
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>>81607574
>What makes government work is the technocrats. The politicians are just an avatar of the people.
spotted the retard.
serious question, how old are you?
>>81595336
Ah yes the Surname-Surname effect, typical really. Haha these plebes are so unaware unlike us sociologists!
>>81595336
>Implying both sides don't have their idiots.
Ffs is that what were coming to?
No you're stupid
Nuh uh you are
No you
>>81595336
You're right, I don't understand what your stupid made up shit means.
That said, I'd love to actually debate you outside of image maymays.
>>81616694
>Dunning Kruger effect has absolutely nothing to do with Trump's campaign strategies
Did anyone say it was his strategy? His strategy is pretty straightforward.
Trying to understand what the maymay is trying to say, and I don't get it.
>if you know that some people overestimate their skills and fail because of it, you will not vote for Trump, and if you say you will, you are lying
>how, what, fuck
>>81595336
trash
>>81616956
Let it be as it is. Just refuse to make wet sand from them and leave them playing in their "modern sandbox". We do not understand it because we are dumb. To savages even Islam seems very modern. We are worse than that, animals as we are.
They need enemy and it pisses them off the most when enemy is just gone. Unavailable.
Grant us new happening mighty Kek
>>81597046
>>I dunno wut it means, so Google.
>shitting on learning
>>81619374
>only reason trump is in race is because of social engineering effort using the princicple of the dunning-kruger effect
>effort using dunning-kruger effect
translation:
>Trump is getting people to vote for him by appealing to stupid people who think they're smart
nothing in his campaign tries to capitalize on this psychological effect
unless you're saying that trump is stupid and think he's smart
if that's the case than this meme is poorly worded and still wrong
>>81619374
Your shitty meme does. That people are being manipulated to vote for Trump (assumably with his knowledge) via social engineering and application of "the principles of the Dunning-Kruger effect" (whatever the fuck that's trying to say).
>>81618857
>the truly wise knows that he knows nothing.
Nah man, that line is just wannabe intellectual bullshit from people who want to appear more educated than they are
Not knowing everything =/= knowing nothing
But I understand it and support Trump.
The only reason ANY politician wins is because of advertising or a rigged political system.
The advertising for Trump is just more word of mouth based.
>You're dumb if you vote for Trump
Okay why am I dumb?
>HAHAHA LOOK AT THIS IDIOT ONLY SOMEONE DUMB WOULD VOTE FOR TRUMP
What are you sliding shill?
>>81595336
Sure buddy.
The democrats put up Hillary.
The republicans could put up a retarded, albino, African, midget transsexual, and I'd vote for it over Clinton.
This has nothing to do with my self perception, just the fact Hillary wouldn't pass the background check to be a cashier at McDonald's.
>>81595336
You realize the DK's are Hillary's base, right?
>>81595336
>be me
>don't know what that means
> google it and see a huffington post as first result
ignored
>>81595986
really made me ponder.
>>81619914
>Trump is getting people to vote for him by appealing to stupid people who think they're smart
Stupid people who think they're smart? Isn't that any stupid person? Isn't that precisely why they're stupid to begin with?
It remains retarded. People who are certifiably intelligent, with degrees, and vote for Trump, what of them? Maymay is broken.
>>81618783
oh yeah, it's like the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, amirite?
>>81619608
What is says is "I'm really smart. Trump is dumb and anyone who supports him is dumb too. On top of being smart I am also extremely pretentious so I'm going to verbally extrude those two simple sentences into as many as I can, while dropping as many $5 words as I can think of, as flowery language and long length impress me. Like and share if you would like a feeling of unwarranted superiority as well".
>>81620100
The point is that the more you learn, the more knowledge you realize you don't know - the "known unknowns" increase exponentially.
>>81619959
>That people are being manipulated to vote for Trump
Typical Brit: if you vote for someone I don't like, you're being manipulated, otherwise you're an educated and intelligent person who shares my opinion, of course.
I'd vote for Trump because he knows how to make things work, he has sufficient ego to do things, and he isn't scared of what people will think of him, which is the best skill to have for a white man nowadays.
I have no doubt he is intelligent. I also like his political ideas and nobody has ever shown me why his ideas weren't good.
>>81595986
wtf I hate NIGGERS now.
>>81620872
Typical Swiss: Not reading my posts or the context in which it was made properly.
>>81620855
The part of the statement that annoyed me was the "knows that he knows NOTHING", because it's bullshit.
Being aware of the limitations of your own knowledge doesn't mean that knowledge you do have becomes worthless.
>>81619608
>>if you know that some people overestimate their skills and fail because of it, you will not vote for Trump, and if you say you will, you are lying
No, you don't understand.
Try replacing Trump with Putin. Pretend Putin is running for President of the US. Pretend he has the support that Trump is getting while saying all sorts of similar things and acting in the same manner.
Or just use Hitler, he's everyone's go-to example for everything. How and why is he able to garner this level of support this late in the race.
It isn't just that Hillary sucks...though obviously that's what many people believe.
>>81620638
that's what the dunning-kruger effect is:
someone is too stupid to have an unbiased perception of their own intelligence and doesn't have to compete with intelligent people so thinks they're smart
but there are unintelligent people that are self aware enough of to realize that intelligence isn't their strength
and there are people like me who want to believe they're really smart but are afraid that they're actually just slightly above average intelligence
what this has to do with Trump or the Presidential race though i have no idea.
>>81621147
I really don't care, James. Your post is something I use to express myself, for fun. Logic doesn't matter, only self-expression matters; I've learned from the SJW.
>>81621195
I don't think it's meant to be absolute, but rather relative, because the body of unknown knowledge is theoretically infinite. We grasp but a tiny bit of that infinity whenever we learn more about the world.
>>81621549
Kill yourself faggot.
>>81619914
>nothing in his campaign tries to capitalize on this psychological effect
OK, can I shout for a second, so that it's clear?
THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN. TRUMP IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PHENOMENON!!
I never said it was because of something he did or that his campaign did. The fact that so many don't understand and keep coming back to this or going immediately to "Hillary...blah, blah.." just proves my point.
