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So since this coup i've been reading a lot about this guy, however; google has been giving me a lot of confusing things about him.
I read here that hes bad, but google says hes not that bad?
Can someone redpill me on this guy?
pls anyone
>>81477044
Erdogan labels anyone he doesn't like terrorists. The people attempting the coup were labeled terrorists.
Do you like mudshits? Do you want an Islamic authortarian government in Turkey? Then you wouldn't like Gulen.
Do you support a secular government in Turkey? You'd like Gulen.
Bump
Question session is open:
>>81476689
Apparently he's the Littlefinger of Turkey.
Google is a CIA project run by kikes. Whenever it tells you anything, don't immediately trust it.
>>81477044
>but google says hes not that bad?
that's all you need to know that he's bad.
protip: everyone who's labeled good is actually bad - see obongo, clinton, cameron, merkel
protip2: everyone who's labeled bad is actually good - see putin, trump, erdogan, farage, hungary's president, poland's president
always think the opposite of what the jews want you to believe. they want you to like the globalists and hate the nationalists
PART I:
>He isn't a religious threat. He is a political threat.
>Religiously he is moderate Hanafi Islam (like most of Turkey).
>Politically he has thousands of schools worldwide elementary schools, high school and universities. Everywhere. From Russia, to Africa, from USA to Central Asian Turkics.
>Nationalists used to like him because he taught Turkish in these thousands of schools.
>AKP conservatives liked him because he is supposedly "religious".
>Secularists never liked him.
>In late 90s a couple of loose cannon generals said "he is the greatest threat to Turkish secularism". People were like "WTF LOL TINFOIL GENERALS". Within 2-3 years those generals were either retired, or conveniently denied promotion.
>Around 2001 our huge economic crisis struck. Gulen moved to Pennsylvania. People claimed he was a CIA asset, but who gives a shit, thousands of CIA assets in Turkey and abroad.
>When AKP was elected by a fair election, they had around 37% of the vote where no other party came close.
>Gülenist Cemaat (Denomination) supported them.
>Suddenly state prosecutors, supposed "secularist"s began bringing huge trials to court. It was during 2006 that the Ergenekon trials began. A golden generation of officers, cadets who were educated in Harvard and interned in West Point, truly western brigh men and women, were blamed with "coup plots".
>Most secular Turks knew it was bullshit. Trials went on...
>But Turkish law states that if an officer has a trial that goes on more than the duration of their promotions, they must be retired.
>These Turkish officers, brightest of the bright were retired because these sleeper prosecutors delayed the court results.
>Within that 4 years, the Balyoz bullshit trials began. It's now apparent that Gülenist prosecutors were a serious threat. They were ravaging the secular establishment without a care.
>>81477044
PART II:
>Erdogan was enjoying the fun. His polls were increasing. Understand that Erdogan is a local threat. He just want to be the bestest leader of his electorate forever and ever, he's a guy who wants an evangelical legacy.
>AKP be like 'awesome finally those militaristic muh Turan soldiers are being fucked like we once were under Ataturk'
>During Balyoz Trials higher up Generals were jailed. This time it was fucking huge. Four stars, three stars, previously untouchables. Special Forces command, Frogmen Colonels who were the apple in the eye of the military.
>Keep in mind these soldiers were active duty badasses. PKK-slayers, best of the best. The generals were desktop men yes, but these newly jailed guys were actual fighting men, valuable assets not to be fucked with.
>Some smart AKP think tanks, not durka but not secular either start warning 'WTF how can Gülenists have this much furtive power?' I wonder who they'll fuck next?
>AKP government and Erdogan decide to check their power, but beginning to shut down schools belonging to international or philantropy foundations, a grassroots foundation of Gülenist influence.
>the Gülenist denomination is "Do not do it we are brothers, cmoooon"
>AKP persists trying to see if this tumor is malignnant.
>Within 3 months Gülenist prosecutors begin a huge corruption case versus Erdogan and AKP. Some are true, most is bullshit. Damning stuff, but nothing Hillary or Cheney wouldn't do.
>Gezi protests begin. Gülenist police start doing EXTREMELY disproportionate blowback to young Ataturkist protestors.
>Busted heads, blinded protestors, shot and murdered Alawite secular youth.
>Erdogan suddenly is perceived as a brutal guy who ordered the death of hipster occupy kids. Even though the police were under Gulen command.
>People rise up to the corruption. To Erdogan """"bullying"""", everybody now hates AKP aside from their base, opinion polls fall to 35%, lowest since 2002.
>>81477044
PART III:
>AKP starts weeding out Gülenist prosecutors who resist.
>It's a clusterfuck now. Nobody knows who's secular, who's AKP populist religious, who's truly dangerous Gülenist religious cultist.
> Turkey is a Cthulhu nightmare where nobody trusts anybody.
> Erdogan vows to weed out the Gülenist influence. He appoints the first powerful Chief of General Staff in years. His name is Hulusi Akar.
> Akar is a Turkmen Secular guy who is the top of his class and a pragmatist. He is loved by the Turkish military industrial complex because he is a technocrat, wants Turkey to manufacture own tanks own planes and one day, own engines .
>Erdogan and Hulusi Akar, cozy up to Koc, a secular laissez faire Turkish family richest Turks in the world.
>Erdogan, as a concession first in his life, agrees to exonerate all unfairly jailed secular officers, and soften his line on religious politics.
>Gülen, now realizing he's in dire straits, because Erdogan has allied with secular establishment, goes all out.
>Gülenist officers order the Russian plane to be shot down, to distract from the prosecutions and cleansing of Gülenist prosecutors, judges, educators and officers within EVERYWHERE like cancer.
>Russia-Turkey shit puts Erdogan and Davutoglu in deep shit. Big deep shit.
>Erdogan decides to sacrifice career of his friend and mentor, Davutoglu to placate Russia.
>Gülen realizes that huge prosecutions are incoming and on July 19 2016 cases would be brought to court against Gülenist infiltration of the Turkish state.
>Almost all of the Gülenist extreme officers within Turkish Army, around 120 of them, with around 400 NCOs, try to force AKP hand towards a civil war.
>They used secularist Ataturk lover jargon to appear like a real secular coup.
>2 heroic generals Zekai Aksakalli and Umit Dundar, somehow make it to their barracks to stop printed orders claiming this is the entire Army doing a coup.
>Hulusi Akar and his bodyguard held hostage.
>>81477044
He is Erdogan's Trotsky, the guy he will scapegoat for his country's problem so he can amass power.
However, this does not make him a good guy, he is more islamist and radicl than Erdogan and generaly a pretty bad guy.
PART IV:
>Zekai Aksakalli, who is the four star general of the Special Forces issues statement within first hour of coup, he says that 99% of the Army is against this bullshit coup.
>Army rallies and begins defying orders.
>Gülenist officers, 12 Brigadier generals, 10 colonels and numerous lesser officers are caught with their dick in hand.
>They panic, bombing the parliament and trying to kill equally bullshit durkas who are protesting the coup upon Erdogan's Facetime picture.
> An NCO with the name of Ömer Halisdemir, Special Forces Sergeant, shoots the pinpoint field leader of the bullshit coup, a Gülenist brigadier General named Semih Terzi. He is immediately killed by Terzi's henchmen. If Ömer Halisdemir hadn't done this, orders would have been issued by the Gülenist bullshit machine to hundreds of other regiments. Weeks of blood would follow. Ömer Halisdemir is a heroic name that should be remembered (pic related). Ataturk would be proud of him.
> Gülen's plan falls to shambles because the impossibility that seculars, consevatives and nationalists all defy the coup happens.
>We are saved because Gülen couldn't predict that his men would fuck up so bad, because ironically, were ill educated because of Gülenist purges of the military and cronyist favoritism.
The good guys have barely won. Ataturk's ideals may have permanently been extinguished.
For once in his misbegotten existence, Erdogan served his country by prosecuting this ruthless, robotic Gülenist scum.
Fear them America, they are now in your midst.
>>81478484
>>Hulusi Akar and his bodyguard held hostage.
Also Akar's own assistant took Akar hostage
>>81478299
STOP FORCING YOUR BULLSHIT AGAIN ERDOSHILL
>>81477044
He is a moderate Muslim, he doesn't care about Sunni-Shia differences and he is pro-Assad.
>>81478758
This.
Every time someone here is pro-Erdogan, you know they're a paid shill. Believing Gulen could do any of this is the most deluded shit in the world.
You like calling Islam a cult.
Imagine a more cultish version, but mixed with globalism and interfaith
There is a reason why seculars here gladly work together with Erdogan to remove them
Google, and the mainstreams call him good, just like how they call Soros good, and guys like Trump an Putin bad
>>81478758
100 Hizmet points have been deposited to your account, mürit
>>81479048
you retard, even the secularists support Erdogan for stopping the coup. The guy who literally saved Erdogan was General Dundar, who is one of the most hardcore kemalists in the nation.
AFTERWORD:
> He incredibly intelligent. Tzeentch of the covert world. This factional secretly-islamist coup was planned DECADES in advance.
> His followers are sociopaths, and incredibly skillful. They don't appear islamist, they appeal to SJW values, but they are far more radical than anything Erdogan's lackeys can do.
> He literally finances lobbyists in ADL, protestors at BLM, is a butt buddy with Soros.
> His version of islamism is intelligent. Subservience to him is paramount, and if you are subservient, they give you a better life, better means, you necome a shining beacon of success.
>Hidden Gülenist officers in friday's coup attempt was barely stopped. Everybody around the world still assumes it was secularists who tried it. Imagine the blue pill power of Fethullah Gülen if he can make everybody believe that.
If Ataturkist secularists are the heroes.
Erdogan followers are useful morons and conservatives.
Gülenists are the elite fucking bad guys.
Furtive and sharp as fuck.
They don't have beards, they blend in. They are scary as fuck.
>>81478835
>>81478758
You can detect Gülen-shills by a simple test.
>they espouse SJW values according to shills
>Gülen is ideal islam according to shills
Gülen's cult is a living personality cult.
Those so called "officers" were promoted only because the Golden Generation of Turkish Officers were unfairly jailed half a decade ago.
It is apparent from their lack of military skills how they fucked up the coup attempt.
Always remember, Gülenists are the only danger to Turkey SO fucking powerful that it forces Erdogan-cunts and Ataturkists to ally.
>>81478623
Thats a fascinating recap, thanks Turkr...Turkbro.
>>81479227
Rofl. A LITERAL ROACH with minimal education is telling me about the dictator he serves. Get this shit, guys.
>>81481609
>don't know anything because american education is a joke
>keep fucking up the world with your foreign policy
>somehow you know more about Turkey than a man who lives here
Smh, kys tbqhwyl
>>81481609
You sound like a shill for Gulen, you villainous cunt.
>>81477044
He is pretty much the opposite of erdogay..
He says stuff like "more schools,less mosques"
religion should not be mixed with politics.. etc etc
he build around 300 schools for children with learning difficultys ..
I mean..for me it is no question why erdogan hates him and his influence
>>81481609
You need to read up more on the politics of Turkey.
5 major factions.
Erdogan's Milli Görüş Conservatives - Evangelist Hanafi Muslims, Generally Harmless but Boisterous - 40% of strata
Secular Elite, well educated youth, upper middle classes as well as Alevi seculars and militarism proponents, all are more or less referred to as Ataturkishs - 25% of Strata
Turkic Nationalists who also try to be """muslim""" on Ramadan, MHP party, Grey Wolves Turanists, BBP islamist-nationalists - Generally harmless and beta until provoked - 10% of strata
Kurds, SJW leftists, Hardline Socialists, Liberals - 15% of strata
Gülenists aka Nurcu Denomination - Barely 2% of strata, but like Jews they hold HUGE power (or used to until 2 days ago)
Loose cannon factions, NEETs, Circassians, Integrated Arabs, Laz, Zaza, Jews, Other... - 8% of strata
>>81482259
>>81481867
That I know more about the politics of your country than either of you will should be really telling. Y'all don't even have the cognitive reasoning power to realize that you've been socialized to support Erdogan's Islamist fascism. Really hope all of the intelligent infidels get out while they can.
>>81482259
this is very accurate. I'd add that Erdogan's electorate is not just Milli Görüş but goes back to Menderes who was ex-CHP. They have a very long tradition from Menderes to Demirel and all of them played with Islam like Erdogan. They love their country, just like seculars.
The gulenists on the other hand are like spies. Comparing them to jews is a spot on analogy, because they really hold a lot of power and there's a lot of nepotism between them. Gulen realised that education is very important status symbol so a lot of them have amazing education - even people at Harvard/Oxford etc. Many fulbright scholars are gulenists
>>81483043
The fact that you spout "Islamic Fascism" tells me you're an inept moron who watches Fox news and gets redpilled by TYT clips.
Fuck off.
>>81483222
Says the fascist Islamist.
Your country is ruined and you've given up on the ideals of Ataturk and, more importantly, support every evil he and his supporters hoped to eradicate from your nation forever.
You can shill all you want, but when it comes down to it, I'll remain the smart American and you'll remain the dead roach who couldn't break free of Erdogan's cult long enough to save your homeland.
>>81483648
sure bro sure
I'm just sad I spent the time to reply to you by informed posts.
Good luck finishing high school.
>>81477044
He's bad, but he's supported by the US. Like Bin Laden in the 80s.
>>81477643
Gulen is an Islamist. Americans are morons.
look up albania soros gulen
>>81477044
He runs a string of ISIS schools in America. Funded by the US federal government approx 500 million a year to operate what is essentially a VISA selling scam, as long as he radicalizes a few Jihadis to keep the CIA happy.
His differences with Ordoderp, if any, would be for reasons we would not understand as western Christians.
As for right now, he is safe and sound in the USA being paid off by the feds for ?? Yeah why do the feds fund ISIS?? I'm not really sure.
>>81485481
Nobody in the US knows about him. He's literally a 24 villain.
I'm pessimistic you'll survive the next 10 years USA
>>81485723
I have said before Israel and Turkei will be the last white countries. If you wanted to be nice you could let Syria live too.
