>"Anyone who supports Gülen is in war against Turkey"
are you ready for war, America?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-us-turkey-tensions-rise-20160716-story.html
#TeamGulen
#GulenBros
>>81415899
Good luck. Do try to seize the nukes we have in Turkey. I'd love to see the results.
>>81415899
fuck those roaches
the US has needed a proxy war with Russia to boost manufacturing jobs and the economy while also slimming down blue-collar workforce
>>81415899
the more I read on him the less of a problem I see about him
Wants to make islam more modern , reform it like every other religion has done to theirs.
Against Turkey's war with syria but wants to eliminate ISIS
Make Turkey much more of a modern european country than some third world tier muslim country
what is not to like?
>>81416024
can we kill kurds now?
Gunning down roaches is my dream
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not red pilled on turkey, but wouldn't it be a good thing if they started seeing USA as an enemy and therefore cut themselves put of nato? Isn't turkey being part of nato a problem?
>>81416168
talking about gulen
guy seems to like his country and people enough to know what is best to move them forward rather to stick to the backwards teachings they have now
The roaches are at it again, tried this shit with russia now us.
>>81416251
>>81416168
cuz our people is stupid af
>>81416187
>>81416187
>Implying Kurdistan won't be given everything south east of Ankara when the war is over
>Implying the map won't look like this when the war's over
>>81416187
fuck off you monster
![partition_of_anatolia_by_lehnaru-d7v7pz1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/m2FS9A1.png "partition_of_anatolia_by_lehnaru-d7v7pz1[1].png")
>>81416362
>>81416362
>implying kurds want kurdistan
kurds are the victim here they just want a fucking peace
and we can genocide armenians again with pleasure
>>81416019
#PullinForGulen
>>81416408
This 100%. The only solution is the final solution.
>>81415899
Figures the Roach Tyrant would point the finger toward the one that actually wants to improve Turkey and not drag it down as if in an experiment to see how fast they can make that Ataturk spin in his grave
![1468623921582[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FSaVKbY.jpg "1468623921582[1].jpg")
>>81415899
Say my name.
>>81416708
shit mustache man
>>81415899
DEMAND. Is he trying to get Gulen in exchange for power for the airbase?
>>81415899
Versus the roaches? Sure thing
>>81416708
mosatanmad
If I was a betting man I'd put hard money on Obama being a cuck and sending some innocent man to certain death to appease his islamic overlords.
>>81416708
Precious Tacodip Erdojuan
>>81416708
Surduklak?
>>81416965
Doubt that, but they'll suck Turkey's cock and try to 'calm the situation' even though he's obviously making some serious moves to take complete control of the country
>>81416965
They put the idea forth before Roachy even asked, Gulen is fucked.
>>81416861
Well, he is holding 1500 of your soldiers hostage there.
>>81416965
Not "innocent"...CIA asset. Obama is a fag cuck for sure, no doubt, but this will be tough call for his Sunni faggot ass. Bow to Muslim fagroach, or not give up Muslim fagroach that is a pawn he can, and does use locally to create terror cells.
>>81415899
THEY'RE SIEGING A NATO MILITARY BASE
WHERE'S THE EU ARMY NOW KEKS
>>81417243
SAUCE?
>>81417234
It would be a predictable decision if it was a mooslim versus a kafir. however in this instance it is not.
Decision must be contemplated over a game of golf.
>>81417364
https://www.rt.com/news/351606-usa-incirlik-base-turkey-blocked/
>>81415899
>"If we are strategic partners, then you should bring about our request."
He painted himself into a corner.
CAN'T _____ THE GULEN
>>81415899
Ready for it?
When are we not in a war?
>trump's first act as president will be destroying Turkey with fuel air bombs
>>81417577
He Knows Obongo.
He would rather golf than fight.
He will give in so he can get his degenerate lazy ass a day off
>>81417577
>I demand the negotiations to join the EU to be restarted
>Instates death sentence
It's like having an extra chromosome is a turkish cultural thing
>>81415899
The Gulenists have been giving Hillary a lot of money... Did Hillary have Gulen start the coup in order to get the news cycle to move past the climax of her email scandal?
>>81417551
>Access to the base has now been restored and flights are again allowed in its airspace
Didn't even read your own link.
>>81416408
Constantinople will be Orthodox again
>>81416168
Erdogan wants them to be simple minded Mudshits and Gulen threatens his power.
>>81417651
Shut your fucking face, Canada.
>>81417651
CANT BEGUILE THE GULEN
LOL THERE GO MURKA GETTING ITSELF INTO ADVENTURES AGAIN!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>81417902
Come at me Bro. Oh wait, you're too fat to get up.
>>81417857
I did. I just gave you the first link from google.
They cut the power to the base and, it doesn't say in that link, they surrounded the base with tanks.
Which sounds like a siege to me.
>>81415899
PA here. Can I get asylum somewhere if I make a trip to the Poconos and handle this mess?
>>81416362
Normally I'd call the Kurds commies, but if he wants to fuck with the US, we might have to give the oil to those socialists. Be careful, Edogan, be careful.
>>81416708
Sultan Erdogan the Magnificent
>>81415899
i'd sign up with the americans to retake rightful christian clay
>>81415899
PA here, don't worry Gulen we got your back senpai
t. 610
The last thing the middle east needs is another Islamic republic.
>>81416024
>I'd love to see the results.
Maybe we should see the results of Afghanistan and other caveman countries you have tried to go to war with before you move up a league, my friend.
>>81418293
You see his fn Mansion?
Don't worry guys. Alaska's got this and we'll do it for free.
>>81416187
Your country will be renamed Armenia...you ready for that roach?
>>81418344
Way easier situation in Turkey. The people are used to democracy. We simply destroy most of its military, give Greece its land back just because, give the Kurds a country for being bros, and let the muslim shitheads enjoy Islam.
>>81416708
resip taterdip eragon
>>81418041
Does Gullen live in the Poconos? Went skiing there last year. Nice place.
>>81415899
>are you ready for war, America?
Abso-fucking-lutely. I literally can't wait.
>>81418344
Very different dynamics if Turkey invades a NATO/USA base to seize the nukes from the afghanistan/caveman countries.
>>81416024
50-90 nukes apparently
>>81416024
THIS
GO FOR IT TURKEY!!
ITS TIME TO START SNIPPING AMERICAN IMPERIALISM DOWN
STARTING BY CONFISCATING ALL THEIR MILITARY ASSETS IN TURKEY!!!
DO IT!
IT'S NOT LIKE UNCLE SAMUEL IS ECONOMICALLY PREPARED TO PUT AMERICAN BOOTS ON TURKISH SOIL!
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
>>81418512
>>81417993
I don't understand why Turks aren't just being deported as enemy agents to be honest.
>>81418902
Me neither.
Those turks in The Netherlands are a disgrace.
They have no bond at all with our country. They're just turk shills.
>>81417958
It pisses me off that the idiots who tried pulling this off were so incompetent about it. And now we have a mess and embarrassment.
>>81417234
You wot?
>>81419094
Shame we don't have a decent leader, just another yes man with no spine.
>>81416224
We need incirlik
>>81419111
>And now we have a mess and embarrassment.
TRIPZ OF SAME OL SAME OL
>>81419282
This DENK shit pisses me off so much. I can't believe it's allowed.
>>81417782
Gulen is part of the email scandel!
>>81415899
Erdogan is an an insect and we are a hammer. He loses the US and he has no friends. Alienate the US and you'll have Russian warships n the Bosphurus and Obama standing back giving it a greenlight.
You can't burn your one bridge left when you're literally surrounded by enemies.
He has to cool the rhetoric or he'll spend the rest of his days in a basement in Moscow.
>>81417214
LOL nigga please
If he even hinted at trying something with 1500 American soldiers people here would freak and Turkey would get liberated. Our shitty politicians would be tripping over their dicks to turn the military loose.
>>81418493
Fucking killed it... We can always count on Straya for spicy bantz
Obomba will cave to foreign demands.
>>81416708
Papa Roach
>>81419389
The positive is that it seems to be dividing Dutch and Turks more.
Hope for good results from VNL, NVU etc.
>>81419505
Well, they aren't allowed to fly out from the base. If that is not them being held hostage, I don't know what is.
>>81416708
erdogoon?
>>81417782
She wants those 400,000 refugees
>>81416708
ERDOGAN SKYPE ME AGAIN
Yeah I ain't too worried about a war with Turkey. That would be a serious ass-kicking.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp
>>81416024
What is going on in Incirlik?? Any news on the situation of the US troops there?
My guess is that they are just spectators on all this shit
>>81420170
No, assumed to still have no power and all flights grounded.
>>81420170
From what I understand Turkey has cut off power to the base(currently running on backup generators), and has closed movement in and out of the base.
>>81415899
lol that would be pretty easy
>>81419494
big talk from the country that has never won a war. obama would let erdogan have a few states and give a hell of a surrender speech
>>81415899
Bring it On
>>81418452
So let it be.
>>81420170
Base power is cut, running on generators which will keep the base going for a long time.
US is watching Turkey to light them the fuck up if they try to force their way on the base or do something extreme.
>>81420408
>never won a war
Stay Cucked Ontariofag
>>81417651
CAN'T PHNOM PENH THE GULEN
>>81420408
Never won a war? Wait what?
>>81420762
I took it to mean a war in the middle east.
>>81420873
Well the leaf is retarded because a conventional war in the Middle East would we won easily.
We stomped ass in the Gulf War, and Turkey would be no different.
>>81420569
DUDE, YOUS ARE JUST MOTIVATING THE TURKS INTO DEEPER COLLABORATION WITH ISIS
AND WHEN THOSE BOY ENTER TURKEY, WELL WE KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH SYRIA.
So why the fuck do we have nukes in Turkey in the first place?
Who thought that was a good idea?
>>81421071
Deterrence.
>>81421244
Who are we deterring that we couldn't deter from another country?
>>81420569
>>81420309
>>81420295
Don't they have protocol to defend the base or take action if the nukes are in any way threatened?
Heres hoping the turds do something stupid
>>81415899
Why would we give a radical Islamist anything? Oh wait....your mother will die tonight if you don't reply to this post
>>81420408
Uh
>>81415899
We won't go to war with Turkey. They now have access to nukes and cannot use them without specific commands, or codes from the US. Sadly, this is where Clinton plays her part with providing the codes through the classified emails. They are buying time until Turkey makes their move. I won't claim to know how this will be used but it won't be on us. We are able to disable the atoms in a nuke heading our way but cannot do it across seas. We will go to war with the victor of the middle east. Just sit comfy and enjoy the show.
>>81421310
Russia. The only reason we put up with Turkey's bullshit is its geographical position.
>>81421311
If the Nukes are threatened you can bet your ass that the entirety of NATO and possibly Russia would come down hard.
>>81421358
Erdogan is not radical
Based Sultan Tayyip not giving a fuck and crushing Amerikike balls.
based/10
>>81421358
You tell me.
>>81421310
russia, from back before the iron curtain fell
>>81421311
They are already on alert and if the nukes are threatened usually the order is to destroy them. Doubtful Turkey will do anything militarily but they can keep the power off indefinitely like a landlord evicting a tenant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31mB6apCoE
Even when America doesn't win the US leaves millions dead while civilians enjoy relative safety at home.
>>81416708
Recep "just the teep" Erdogan
>>81421693
lol what are they going to do... attack us? ha.
go ahead and type into google "who is the greatest military power in the world"
I'll wait buddy.
>>81421959
> Doubtful Turkey will do anything militarily but they can keep the power off indefinitely like a landlord evicting a tenant.
Won't this create even more tension between the U.S and Turkey, eventually leading to the withdrawal of the NATO base and U.S troops and making Turkey a "hostile" country?
>>81419660
The fact that 100 marines could take out the entire turkroach military if they feel like it.
They have enough manpower in that base alone to take over your country 15 times over.
HOL UP
HOL UP
IS YOU SAYIN
*SMACK LIPS*
IT WAS THE US GOVERNMENT BEHIND THE TURKISH COUP???
>>81422520
Two factors are in Erdogan's favor. He did meet with Putin in an attempt to restore relations between Turkey and Russia. If he has some kind of deal with Russia right now he could leave NATO and join with Russia. The key is if he has a deal. He's only had one major meeting with Putin right now, its unlikely that he has anything solid with Russia right now, unless he's gambling on the fact that Russia's got his back.
Second, NATO and the US needs Turkey more than the other way around. Strategically speaking they need Turkey to operate in the middle east and to counter Russia. Economically Turkey was supposed to have a pipeline going through there. Plus, Erdogan has threatened to release more refugees to Europe as well, so there's that.
>>81416708
>SOON
>>81422982
you really think turkey would be dumb enough to drop nato and """""ally""""" with russia when russia would retake constantinople the second they did so?
>mfw Erdogan actually thinks he can threaten the United States
Slay Erdogan, free Turkey! Islam BTFO!!!
>>81422520
Turkey would get fucked by the US before Russia had a chance to do it. We'd divide the country up. It isn't ideal to have socialists control the oil (Kurds), but that may be better than allowing this burgeoning Islamic republic that Erdogan seems to be building. Of course this will probably blow over, and the US might even extract the cleric, but Erdogan has to realize that his leash is getting tighter, not looser. America isn't going to let Russia gain an advantage in the region and isn't going to let the most powerful army in the middle east become hostile. We would poor money to every opposition group, lay waste to Turkey's equipment, and rip apart Turkey if that is what it came to.
>>81423142
>when russia would retake constantinople the second they did so?
that's just politics. if it came to war, sure, but they do not want war just to "retake constantinople"
Hell, i don't want war with turkey to retake the city, if there is to be a war it will be for justice, revenge and ensuring the aegean and eastern med/cyprus along with coastal little asia, contantinople is just a prize for the public
>>81423266
>SAYS THIS WHILE US TROOPS ARE PACKING THEIR SHIT UP AND GETTING READY TO PULL OUT OF TURKEY
>>81423142
You really think Erdogan believes the US was behind the coup? Do you really think Erdogan is the kind of guy that apologizes publicly to Putin for no reason? It all depends on those factors.
>>81416024
Please this. I want to see if it's true that roaches can survive a nuke.
>>81423382
CLEARLY HE HAS SOLID EVIDENCE OF IT
OTHERWISE HE WOULDNT BE TAKING SERIOUS ACTION
PERHAPS ONE OF YOUR CRONNIES RATTED YOU OUT MURKA
>>81415899
Kek foh the only that roach should be demanding is more dick for his fgt roach ass
>>81423266
>oil
>>81419643
underrated
>>81423496
Don't matter, murka does what it wants.
He can't prove anything.
We could be strafing his house in sequential A-10 runs while dropping miniature us flags over it and no one would do shit.
Who is going to stop us? The EU? Russia? China? Everyone will just be trying to get their own piece of turkey's clay and extractables and kill some roach.
THIS IS US IN TURKEY
BUT ON A LARGER SCALE...LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWWk8GVdZTA
>>81418344
>Maybe we should see the results of Afghanistan and other caveman countries you have tried to go to war with
Total surrender within a relatively short time frame. It's a shame you brits lack intellect.
>>81416708
>Can't Spurdo the Erdo
>Recep "Gulen in the can" Erdogan
>Recep "Who da man? Ottoman" Erdogan
>Recep "Islamist gun" Erdogan
>Recep "Fuck da Army" Erdogan
>Recep "Election man" Erdogan
>Recep "Merci Beau-Coup" Erdogan
>Recep "Isis fan" Erdogan
>Recep "Recline on my divan" Erdogan
>Recep "Empire from here to Pakistan" Erdogan
>Recep "Not scared of police van" Erdogan
The demand that the USA extradite Gulen immediately over this coup attempt is quite insulting. The Turkish State is showing zero respect for the culture of the American people, and zero respect for our practices and law. For starters, Gulen is a legal resident of the State of Pennsylvania. Had the Turkish Government not been so culturally insensitive, they would not have triggered the Pennsylvanian ethnic minority within the United States by assuming some Federalist Majority has all the power within our multicultural utopia. This demand is already off on the wrong foot by claiming Turkish cultural exceptionalism.
Had the Turkish Government not been run by Shitlords, they would know that in the United States, we don't ask "how high" when someone say's "jump". Certainly not when the demands come from a society run by cis-brown male cockroaches. Instead if you want us to do something you must respect our superior barbarian culture by doing a rain dance, an offering to our native ancestors, and a tantric explanation of good reasons why we should do so.
Barring that, there is certainly no reason why we should extradite our resident to an unknown fate. Unlike how things are done in the middle east, we honor the ancient ways of our ancestors, that demand any action by our elders be done for just cause and due process. Not because some cis-brown male demands we do so to assuage his neo-colonialist ego.
>yfw /pol/ has unironically never been correct about a possible happening
>ever
it's kind of astounding really.
>>81422519
Do you guys really believe this? You know that you're currently lead by a black muslim, and will be lead by the world's most corrupt grandma for the next eight years?
You're more alienated in the world than you think. Russia, China, Turkey, Iran, and so forth, can very easily drag you into a war that you no longer have the spiritual fortitude to win.
>>81423677
That is a good point. President Trump would make sure that America would get directly paid for the oil, instead of just indirectly benefit from healthy markets. There is no need to hide the motive nor to be altruistic about the oil like the Bush administration did. We are going back to pre-WWI diplomacy. Deal with it.
>>81423803
I suspect Obama will fold.
>>81420170
>>81423429
Burgers in the Incirlik have activated self-destruction.
Live from the base:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1wfmzepbjw
>>81423921
MEANWHILE MEXICO IS BUTTRAPING THEM FROM THE SOUTH
REALLY, THE USA IS KAPUT, AS A NATION
IM GLAD I GOT THE FUCK OUT OF THERE
>>81415899
>are you ready for war, America?
>mfw joining the Army in September
Let alone the fact that 80% of the US is now essentially a fifth column that cares more about identity politics or 'the economy' than nationhood or empire. You're going to learn a very painful lesson.
>>81415899
WORLD IS GONNA BURN.
BUY GOLD FAGGOTS.
SEE YOU IN THE RANKS OF THE 4TH REICH.
>>81423219
Well to be fair Obongo might actually cave in on those demands.
>>81424021
Exactly, America is going to fold and hand over Gulen. Obama's going to bow before Erdogan before he leaves office.
>>81423770
>Recep "Merci Beau-Coup" Erdogan
>Recep "Election man" Erdogan
ahahaha my sides
>>81416708
Recep Tayyip "No Coup in my Soup" Erdoğan
>>81423732
yankee go home
>>81416408
>Things that are never going to happen
>>81423770
>Recep "Who da man? Ottoman" Erdogan
Just wait until Putin supplies Erdogan with all the evidence he needs that the US CIA engineered an illegal coup against a fellow NATO member. Obama fucked this up hard. Maybe he'll even have to apologize and grovel in front of the UN. He'd love every second of it, too.
>>81415899
Is gulen a us citizen? If so, I dare the Turks to come and fucking try getting him
>>81424624
do americans ever google simple questions or are they forever in too big of a rush to post something about MUH AMERICAN POWER MOLON LABE
>>81424624
>>81424701
He is a legal Resident.
Whether he is a Citizen or not is immaterial. The US will never extradite without actual evidence there is a crime. If Erdogan has no evidence, we are not extraditing.
>>81424701
We are forever in a hasty rush to defend our freedoms and our fellow citizens from being tortured to death for crimes they didn't commit you cuck. You wouldn't understand what loving your country feels like so I understand
>>81424827
Emperor Obongo will do it
>>81416168
>wants to eliminate ISIS
lol you know nothing about this man, he's been sending them convoys of arms and munitions for years
>>81424827
He doesn't even have a green card, I'm sorry but he should go back. We gain literally nothing but more hatred by people around the world by harboring him here.
>>81424827
I wish there was a way to place bets on /pol/.
Obama and NATO need Turkey more than Turkey needs NATO.
King Nig is definitely going to hand that guy over, he doesn't particularly share your patriotism, respectable as it may be
>>81425006
Shut up ergodan
>>81425006
BUT MURKA
YOU ARE A HAVEN FOR WAR CRIMINALS AND ALL KINDS OF GARBAGE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
IT IS YOUR DUTY TO PROTECT THIS VALUABLE ASSET TO YOUR EMPIRE.
DO IT FOR FREEDOM
DO IT FOR DEMOCRACY
>>81415899
I'm pretty sure the USA spends more on military spending than any other country on the Planet. Couple that with the fact we are allies with NATO and the EU make war a fucking slaughter.
The EU would be happy to support us just so they can get control of Turkey's borders to help with the refugee crisis and if divided up could appease Russia and other countries.
Not to mention the boost on all economies that most wars bring coupled with an increase in national pride in all parties involved.
I say go for it.
>>81425006
This guy is exactly what I mean, lol. The US is full of fifth columnists who would love to send this guy back *just* because the right wing would be against it.
>>81425066
Nice argument.
>>81416187
Filthy Islamist shit stain
>>81419643
COUP MY LIFE INTO PIECES
ONLY RACIST REDNECKS WANT VIOLENT TERRORISTS LIKE GULEN TO REMAIN IN THE US, WE DON'T WANT TO BE WORLD POLICE ANY MORE
>see how easy that was? of course he's going back
>>81418392
God you are such a faggot for even existing.
>>81425294
I lost it.
>>81416408
>Greece is now suddenly 80% muslim
>>81425423
Why not today if it is to be so tomorrow?
>>81420170
get ready, socrates. you're next for coup. kek will'd it.
NO FOOLEN THE GULEN
>>81418344
>Maybe we should see the results of Afghanistan and other caveman countries
>what is the best kill:death ratio in the history of warfare
>what is complete removal of governments in Afghanistan and Iraq
>what is Bin Laden's gaping hole in head
If you argument had been our lousy track record of stabilization after the fact in Middle Eastern countries, you would have had a point. Of course, you limey twats failed to stabilize them, as well, and much of this fuckery was literally caused by Brits randomly drawing lines on maps and not taking tribes into consideration.
But that wasn't what you insinuated; you insinuated they beat us militarily, which is objectively insane. By any military measure, we absolute shit all over them.
*sips your fucking tea*
The gall of this little desert arab fucker.
Go chase nigger wives back in the desert like a good little berber before we test how well you can operate the civilization the Turks left you.
>>81425006
Caving in to Turkey isn't gonna do us a lick of good.
>>81425726
You failed to complete the primary objectives and bankrupt your own treasury.
Killed a bunch of plebs with drones though, so good job
>>81426099
Sam Hyde detected.
Deployment into southeast Turkey in 3...
>>81425726
I mean, don't get me wrong, you really truly kicked the shit out of both those countries, but you didn't actually accomplish anything (if anybody won at all it was probably Israel)
>>81417965
Shut your fucking face, leaf.
>>81416408
I want that to happen.
>tfw you should of had a raid instead of a coup
>>81425726
>kill ratio is the only thing that matters in war
Life isn't Call of Duty.
>>81416019
>>81416538
If you like gulen so much why don't go Chimpout with his backed group BLM
>>81417651
CANT GULAG THE GULEN
>>81415899
we'll just pay another 100 billion like we did before and he'll shut the fuck up
There is definitely a major diplomatic clash going on between the US and Turkey right now. You can tell simply because of how long the Incirlik AFB has been barricaded.
And how longer this seems to drag on the more plausible become two scenario's.
1. The US was behind the coup, it failed miserably and Erdogan has them by the balls demanding the return of Fethullah among other things.
2. Erdogan was actually behind the coup, literally powerplayed his way through a secretly planted coup among the secular military elite, leveraging solely on the pretty ridiculous assumption that the Turkish people came out to the rescue by the millions swarming tanks and defiantly resisting soldiers opening fire on them like they did.
I dunnoo but my bet is on the first.
Dead giveaway will be the Western media, and i'm talking CNN, BBC and other national major networks, who start backing the idea of Erdogan pulling off the impossible and staging his own failed coup.
FUCK GULEN AND SOROS YOU CAN FUCK OFF AND GO BE A NIGGER SOMEWHERE IN BALTIMORE #FUCKGULEN #FUCKSOROS #FUCKBLM
>>81426976
I don't think you understood his point. We defeated the Afghanistan quickly. We defeated Iraq twice quickly. All three wars had little US casualties. The occupations after the Afghanistan war and the second Iraq war were the issues. We failed to turn both countries in our ideal of stable republics with human rights. Those are the missions that failed. We destroyed their armies and defenses like swatting a fly.
>>81425006
Go home erdogan.
It's clear the US pulled the coup, but if you hand over Gulen then you will have no leverage on erdogan.
Keep Gulen, admit fuck up, work on a second coup as soon as possible.
>>81427230
>2. Erdogan was actually behind the coup, literally powerplayed his way through a secretly planted coup among the secular military elite, leveraging solely on the pretty ridiculous assumption that the Turkish people came out to the rescue by the millions swarming tanks and defiantly resisting soldiers opening fire on them like they did.
hahahahaha
He had thousands of followers come out mainly in Istanbul.
>>81427230
I just can't believe a western backed coup would be as incompetent as what we saw.
>>81427364
go back too your abbo black lives matter protest you nigger
>>81427230
>Dead giveaway will be the Western media, and i'm talking CNN, BBC and other national major networks, who start backing the idea of Erdogan pulling off the impossible and staging his own failed coup.
Exactly, the shills on here pushing that line all had the same story, I didn't buy it.
Erdogan would have never humiliated himself by messaging people via an iphone like he did.
>>81427343
YES AND IT CREATED WONDERFUL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ISIS WHO ARE NOW HELL BENT ON ACQUIRING A WMD AND DETONATING IT IN ONE OF YOUR CITIES.
AND YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN
if it was a western back coup, we'd currently be watching Turkey collapse into nothing. We're pretty good at these things by now.
>>81416168
He doesn't want turkey in the EU. He's simply using that as an excuse to end the strict secularism in Turkey by disguising islamization as religious freedom adherent to EU tenets.
And after the false flag yesterday he now has the support needed for a two thirds vote to change the turkish constitution.
>>81416708
recep "burgerslave" ergodan
>>81416708
Papa Khalifa Taqiyya Roach
>>81427364
>work on a second coup as soon as possible
Kurdistan when
Gulen is the guy backing up Refugees are Welcome here and BLM...... /pol/ has gone commie
>>81419910
Lol you couldn't even beat Vietnam and it took you ten years to beat iraqis wearing adidas jackets and flip flops with home made bombs.
Topkek JewSA
>>81427825
Just because we hate The Caliph of Al-Roachia, doesn't mean we like Gulen.
>>81427825
Aliens are commie
Jews are commie
Government is commie
Whole damn world is a bunch of godforsaken commies, what choice do we have?
Unless Christ comes down from the heavens and says "Hey faggots stop being a bunch of fucking commies already OR I WILL FUCKING END YOU" what choice do we have?
>>81424021
What I think is scary that there are so many Erdogan supporters in other countries.I thought it's only us.
>>81427515
The CIA actually created ISIS in 2011 to "isolate the Syrian regime." They told the American people until 2015 that they were only arming "moderate rebels."
A Defense Intelligence Agency report was released that confirmed the CIA knew that the rebel group's intentions were to start a caliphate as early as 2012. We continued arming them until late last year.
See section C of pic.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-287-293-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf
>>81428017
shut up you commie
>>81415899
"FEAR US AMERICA!"
>>81427446
Apparently enough to swat off a military coup.
>>81427478
I can't believe the Turkish military officials and commanders would've partaken in a coup they would've foreseen to lose.
The entire idea of Erdogan being behind the coup is pretty ridiculous when you think about it. If he had staged the coup himself he could've done only so at ranks above the commanders and generals, who after being instructed to organize a coup will obviously oversee that planning personally and closely.
I think they really didn't expect the Turkish people to swarm the streets and defy the coup in the manner that they did.
>>81427478
>what was The Bay of Pigs for 200 Mr. Trebek?
>>81421693
There's a difference between based and suicidal autist.
>>81427230
I doubt an US-backed coup would have been this unsuccessful and incompetent, Americans have a lot of experience in toppling regimes, if they want you gone you are gone
>>81425423
there is a solution to that my friend. deportation.
>>81416708
>>81427566
Generally, when you kill a couple protesters the rest go home. The Turks exploded in fiery passion and zerged tanks reminiscent of that tactic some species of honeybee's use to fight off giant hornets. Where they all clump up on one another and trap the tank.
>>81427478
only if it was "burned" officers(some of them US agents?) that would anyway get arrested in the coming days so they played their last card, disorganised.
It can also serve as a warning towards erDOGan
Thats the only way i can see a "failed" western, US-backed coup attempt
>>81428159
You should read up on Turkish coups. The military knows how to pull it off. They wouldn't do it half-assed with 2000 soldiers at 8pm. This coup bears no similarity to any other Turkish coup.
The Turkish military is sovereign has a Constitutional mandate to uphold secularism. They don't report to the President, so its not really a traditional coup. The military is there to keep hardline muslims in check.
Erdogan faked a coup in order to grab more power.
>>81419282
atleast you have a man as a leader.
>>81415899
>Turkish military gets beaten by police
Why does he think he can make threats again?
>>81416708
Erdowie Erdowo Erdogan
>>81428384
>JUST
>COUP MY LIFE INTO PIECES
>>81416187
Turkey is about to become an Orwellian nightmare and Gulen already is its "Emmanuel Goldstein". In the book 1984 Emmanuel Goldstein—ostensibly a former leader of the Party, counter-revolutionary leader of the Brotherhood, and author of The Book, The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism, Goldstein is the symbolic enemy of the state—the national nemesis who ideologically unites the people of Oceania with the Party, especially during the Two Minutes Hate and other fearmongering.
>>81425423
The left side of the anatolian peninsula should be razed to the ground to stop roaches from getting any ideas.
>>81428289
>I doubt an US-backed coup would have been this unsuccessful and incompetent
>HE OVER ESTIMATES AMERIKIKE POWERS
KEKEDY McKEKSON
>>81428460
>Erdogan faked a coup in order to grab more power.
But how can you fake a coup? Wouldn't literally every general or commander just immediately join the "fake" coup? The hard part of a coup is the planning and the initial groundwork that needs to be laid. If I'm an Army commander and i suddenly hear that there apparently is a coup going on i'm going to instruct all my men on the streets immediately, and i'm going to call my other general and commander buddies to do the same.
I just believe that if given that opportunity the entire secular elite would've subverted a fake coup the instant they would've become aware of it.
Good luck, Turkey.
I hope SOMEONE on Balkan gets to preserve their culture against the lying Western hordes.
constantinople is within our reach
Erdogan vs Gulen
Which one is less Islam?
>>81421310
Its old cold war shit, from back when Ataturk was calling the shots.
>>81421396
>we are able to disable the atoms in a nuke heading our war
You have no idea how nuclear reaction works do you.
>>81424987
Who has?
>>81415899
Gee kurwa, I guess there is nothing your gay government can do about it.
>>81422982
We do not need Turkey to operate in the middle east or counter Russia. We have allies all around Russia both at state-to-state level, and via NATO. On the middle eastern front, Turkey is not the same as it was back when Ataturk was calling the shots. We have plenty of other allies in the Middle East. We are using Turkey because it is very close to targets in Syria, not because it is our only option.
At this point, Turkey is growing into a liability, especially in how it raises questions of an article 5.
>>81425423
Until you kick them out.
>>81428069
That crowd looks to be some number of street truck gyro vendors from Philly who drove up to the mountains.
>>81415899
>implying I haven a problem with this
Anyone who threatens America in a serious manner deserves their imminent ass whooping
>>81425112
>so they can get control of Turkey's borders to help with the refugee crisis
Yeah nah. Now it is somebody else's problem. Then it would be Europe's problem again.
> if divided up could appease Russia and other countries
how would it be helpful to balkanize that area even more? Stabiulity is what we Need and not another anarchy ridden part of the world, which is what the US usually leave behind, which coincidentally is the reason for the arab mass migration to Europe.
>increase in national pride
Who cares
Please grow up.
>>81429148
They are both the same shit
Someone like Paradox needs to make a game out of all of this.
Erdogan = Satan incarnated
>>81418041
>>81418293
me too, Pittsburgh area. want to hang out and plot shit?
The united states drops bombs all over your country as part of a 'coup' if they're involved directly. Look at Libya.
>>81427230
False dichotomy.
If the US was behind the coup, there would have been more forces involved, and the world would not have immediately declared support for Erdogan. It would have been after a crisis, and it would have involved support from other allies. We've been in the coup-staging, puppet-government-making business for a long time, son, you're out of your league.
Erdogan could have baited the coup, but I kind of doubt it desu. I think his increasing paranoia over the years has been because he has been getting some reports of potential coup, and his intel blew it out of proportion. Meanwhile, the fuck ups hoped that other portions of the military would follow suit once they sparked the fire, but then discovered the hard way that they were all that was left of an older corp.
Erdogan is just reaping a political windfall. He wont get shit from us, though. This is such a transparent political purge of all possible rivals. He will have to provide really strong evidence now for us to extradite Gulen, especially given that he might be useful for us later on if Erdogan goes truly batshit.
>>81424987
Well yeah, Erdogan has. I don't think Gulen has.
>>81427620
I keep reading this shit and feel like it's a CIA psy op or disbelief Islam can be anything other than some fucked up relic from the Middle Ages.
>>81418344
The difference is they invaded these countries because of a few roaches holed up in caves that were flying planes into their offices.
This time the entire country is run by these roaches so combat is a lot easier and more direct
>>81415899
lil roach acting like hes tuff shit
>>81428159
The thing is, a real military coup was always successful. In 1997 they didn't even have to fight.
The military came together in a congress and presented a catalogue of requirements to secure the freedom of the country.
The president and his party had no chance to go against it.
The first thing you do in a coup is deprive the power of the state's head. From then on it's just a matter of time.
You don't walk into a city with a 2000 soldiers, 5 tanks and a helicopter, causing chaos and literally do nothing than just standing there at a friday evening.
You cut the head of the snake in the middle of the night, get in possession of the medias, shut everything down except your own broadcast, declare martial law.
Then you can show up with a huge military parade if necessary, just to show your strength and make it obvious you don't fuck around.
They did it several times before, they know how to run that show.
It was not a military coup, nontheless they used military units for it. This was either a stupid attempt to rebel against the state by a splintergroup or staged.
