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>>81374693
*sips tea*
KKK and Westboro don't go around beheading other Christians and Muslims.
Who did Westboro kill? Besides liberal feelings. of course,
>>81374693
This thread again
>>81374693
how many people have the WBC killed?
>>81374693
What's the death toll of the WBC again?
I'm sure they've beheaded as many people as ISIS, right?
>>81374693
>KKK
Kill criminals
>Westboro
Do nothing other than hurt your feelings
>>81374693
Westboro are a tiny fringe group. They're not violent. Christians vehemently condemn them daily to the point of counter protesting them etc.
Weak bait. Saged.
>>81374693
Except that the KKK ignores 99% of Jesus' teachings while ISIS follows 100% of the Qur'an.
Well, that was easy
/thread
>>81374693
*sips BBC*
#ImWithCruzMissileNow!
>WBC shouts mean things and hurts liberal feelings.
>ISIS and various other muslims blow shit up, murder and behead daily in the name of their religion.
>this thread again
All muslim terrorism stems from Saudi-financed Wahabbist groups. Saudi Arabia has spent 100 billion dollars promoting fundamentalist Islam since 1970. If we were serious about fighting terrorism, we sure as hell wouldn't be allied with the Saudis. Its all a rouse to strip civil liberties and increase funding for the police state. Go to bed.
>Still, donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE131801_a.html
>>81374693
Sage
>>81374861
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>>81375221
>>81375329
Yeah but the WBC prays for deaths of people they hate, and their hatred is based off the Christian religion. And not all Christians oppose them.
Also remember that hundreds of years ago, Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades, and they also persecuted Jews and other minorities in Germany during WWII (Hitler was a Christian).
>>81374693
Westboro never took over and enslaved a nation, ran a truck over 80 people, shot up a gayclub, etc. They say mean things and act like jackasses.
KKK is a terrorist organization and does not do anything in the name of Christ or the church and hasn't even done anything in decades, its members are less than 500 now.
WBC is sue baiting
KKK goes against the teaching of Jesus
ISIS follow their book extremely well
>>81375477
>Also remember that hundreds of years ago, Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades
>hundreds of years ago
>>81375477
>Yeah but the WBC prays for deaths of people they hate,
And ISIS literally murders people they hate.
>Also remember that hundreds of years ago, Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades
For invading europe and doing the same shit they do now.
>>81374693
>KKK
Killed some black people decades ago, hardly even exists as an organization anymore
>Westboro Baptist Church
Says things that hurt your feelings.
>ISIS
Does terrorist attacks on European and American soil, but also wages war inside 3 Arab countries and beheads people they who win and conquer, also occasionally sells women as sex slaves.
Keep defending Islam liberals. And btw I don't separate them, KKK and WBC are very Christian organizations. Just lika ISIS is Islamic organization.
>>81374693
If you can separate the KKK and Jim Crow Laws from the Democratic Party, then you should be able to separate Islam from Civilization.
>>81374693
>common Gay Boy
Anyone told this fag he'd be locked up in a muslim country for holding hands with his boyfriend?
>>81375477
>Caliphate wars of expansion conquer a giant chunk of the Christian world, including the holy land
>Christians under iSlam are forced to convert, pay jizya, or die
>Launch counter-invasions to take back your rightful clay
>B-B-BUT MUH CRUSADES
>>81375665
>persecuted Muslims hundreds of years ago
>after Muslims persecuted Christians for same
well, I think this just about closes the case of the libtard.
>>81374693
Difference is that KKK and WBC are beneficial to the White race, while both muslims and ISIS are not. Thus, the latter ones are amoral and should be forbidden.
>>81376138
After this post, why should I stay and take you guys' "arguments" seriously when you have a racist and homophobe amongst you?
>>81374693
Even if ISIS is more dangerous than a bunch of average mudslimes, that doesn't change the fact that Islam is still dangerous. That's obvious, no?
The fact that ISIS manages to control large parts of multiple countries shows that Muslims are more receptive to their ideas than Christians are to WBC
>>81374693
>the KKK
>hating niggers it in the name of Christianity and not in the name of plain old racism
>WBC
>doing anything other that picketing with retarded signs
>>81374693
If you separate Isis from Islam then Islam is still incredibly savage
>>81374693
Westboro is not a trucking company.
>>81376383
You shouldn't. Fuck off
>>81374693
Libtards that actually try to defend Islam deserve to be decapitated by them.
>>81374693
Also
>Self proclaimed gay boy defending a religion that would stone him to death
>>81375477
>persecuted muslims
you mean fight back and drive them back into the desert?
>prays for death
ya they can do that all they want faggot we have 1st amendment.
>(hitler was christfag)
he didn't kill jews in the name of god
kys
>>81374693
False dicotomy. Westboro hasnt killed anyone, and the kkk has 5000 members in the US. Islam is the largest religion, has a history of violent conquering, and is currently killing hundreds if not more a month. Sage this cancer
>>81377006
That's not real Islam, it hasn't been tried in any country yet.
>>81374693
>Westboro is the same league as ISIS
These millennials are off their fucking tree at this point
It's clear that the mainstream public need to see the videos. Show them the gore, the beheadings. The moderate muslims stoning women and burning gays.
It's the only way at this point they'll learn.
>>81376467
>>81376739
Not an argument :P
>>81377006
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>>81376660
Yawwwnnnnn, come back when your diapers aren't dirty and you aren't mad, then I'll be willing to read your insult-free arguments.
>>81374693
>Wesboro
Nice false equivalency.
It's easy to make an exception for Westboro when they're not even 1% of the Christian population. The Sunni sect of Islam is responsible for the majority of terrorist attacks and is followed by 80% of Muslims.
>>81374693
wtf i hate racism now
>>81377229
I'm just going to leave this here.
> Still, donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09STATE131801_a.html
And, again, I post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
>>81375477
>Yeah but the WBC prays for deaths of people they hate
Muslims pray for, and actively commit, far worse deeds.
Once again, WBC has done fuck all. They just have controversial opinions, which is perfectly fine.
>>81375477
>pray for people they hate
Yeah but they've never actually physically harmed anyone
>not all christines oppose them
Find me a mainstream christan body that hasn't conddemed what they say
>also hundreds of years ago
Try closer to a thousand
>christianity persecuted muslims under the crusades
You mean taking back territories that Muslims conquered.
>persecuted jews and other minorities in germany during ww2
I forgot how churches particularly the catholic church were responsible for saving thousands of jews.
>hitler was a christian
No serious historian considers him anymore then a cultural christian and it's well known he was heavily into the occult.
Try harder next time m8
>>81376383
>Rayyyyycis
>Homoooophob
You will be one of the first gassed on the spot you degenerate Nigger
>>81377754
>>81377783
Their prayers emotionally harm people, as do their protests, so they are just as bad as people who commit physical pain
>>81374693
The last KKK "attack" (if there ever was such a thing to begin with) was likely many decades> Westboro Baptist Church has literally never done anything, they're a meme and a psyop created to make millennials and boomer fags clamor to sabotage the 1st Amendment.
*Drops the mic*
>>81377879
Nobody takes what they say seriously.
Weak bait try harder m8.
>>81374693
Ah, this argument. The KKK and Westboro believe things other than the average Christian. ISIS believes the same things as regular Muslims, they just act on it.
Wesboro church is literally like 50 people, mostly family members and they've never even broken a law.
KKK is virtually nonexistent.
>Isis is the only Islamic terrorist organization lie / meme.
I'll field this one, just like I did yesterday when you posted this copy pasta spam.
Al-Qaeda
Abdullah Azzam Brigade
Abu Sayyaf
Aden-Abyan Islamic Army
Ajned Misr
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj
Al- Asqua foundation
Al- Badr
Al- Ghurabaa
Al- Nusra Front
Al- Shabaab
Ansar al sharia
And that's just the start of the "A's"
Utterly
Completely
Irrevocably
Irreversibly
Blown
The
Fuck
Out
CUNT
>>81375221
That really made me think.
>>81374693
>hurt feelings = beheading
>>81375477
Not an argument
*Shits in toilet*
Yes, because we all know that there's no basis for the formation of groups like ISIS from Islam.
It's not like Muhammad, their founding prophet who they cannot insult, cannot criticize in any way (because he's literally perfect, peace be upon him, right?) didn't commit various atrocities during his existence. It's not like he personally beheaded prisoners, apostates and adulterers. It's not like he was a brutal psychopath who raped toddlers, who advocated sexual slavery, who had a harem of his own personal slaves in addition to his dozen wives.
Fuck Islam, the entire ideology is poison, by far the worst religion in the history of mankind. Get rid of it entirely and the world becomes a much, MUCH better place, even if the other bad religions aren't removed.
>>81374693
>Gay boy
ISIS and Islam would both like to separate his head from his body.
>>81375015
>KKK only kills criminals
Lynching is by definition killing people who are legally considered innocent.
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE ISLAMIC TRUCK OF TOLERANCE
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POST THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD OR THE PEACE TRUCK WILL NEVER COME TO YOUR COUNTRY
>>81374693
>KKK has killed less in their entire existence than the past years ISIS executions and French based terror attacks
Yep. KKK and WBC are both Christian.
Guess we better ban both and go back to pagan religions that actually gave a shit about human standards and law.
>>81378492
IDC
>>81378153
Suurrrreee thing, just because I'm not in the insecure asshole narrative of the forum, I'm *obviously* trolling
>>81374693
Way more than fucking Isis tho. Checkmate 80% still stone Ppl to death
>>81378363
>>81378503
Stop, stop. The OP can only handle so much ass raping.
>>81378218
>ISIS believes the same thing as mainstream muslims
They don't. They follow Wahabbism, a strict fundamentalist sect funded by the Saudis. ISIS was also created, armed, and funded by the US, Gulf States, and Turkey to "establish a caliphate to isolate the Syrian regime."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/
>>81374861
Since 2001--Americans Killed By,
Refugees: 0
White Supremacists: 48
>>81374693
Embrace Diversity
>>81378503
>>81378363
I'm not reading all of that lol
Summarize it for me.
>>81375221
The Qur'an has passages that clearly prohibit violence against people of the book.
1) KKK has nothing to do with WBC
2) WBC is church of heretics since they are not a part of one holy catholic and apostolic Church
>>81375477
>crusades
>not a defensive act
Thank god I actually opened a fucking book and realized the actual political situation in the High Middle Ages when it relates to Islamic expansionism. In the context of the period it makes perfect sense for the Europeans to have such a united response
>>81375411
Shhh...
The truth can't be known...
>>81374890
Damn that about raps this thread up
>>81374693
As usual, rules of /pol/ from the sticky are ignored.
Remember to report all shitposts.
>>81375724
Ebin false equivalency
>>81374693
you posted this thread yesterday
anyone who is responding to this is fucking retarded, sage.
>>81378660
So you've given up trying to convince people a couple dozen retards saying mean things is equivalent to actually beheading and stoning people to death?
>>81378780
Frenchman killed last week by muzzies: 84
>>81375666
>implying a bunch of small invasions by camel-riding nomads and maybe some imperial forces justifies an intercontinental, borderline-genocidal series of wars
>>81379005
Why??? What am I doing that's so wrong? I'm sorry if I don't agree with your opinions, but it doesn't make me a horrible person.
>>81379127
I'm not saying it is equivalent, I just think that ISIS is not representative of Islamic belief.
They kill Muslims for crying out loud, that is not what real Muslims do (kill each other), therefore they are arguably not even Islamic.
Calling ISIS an Islamic group is like saying butterflies are dangerous because a wasp stung you.
>>81377879
To be honestly no one cares about what anyone pray about (not even "God") . There is a huge difference between actuall killing and asking" God" to kill someone
>>81374693
But Christianity is shit too, you faggot.
"Moderate" muslims are not much better than WBC.
>>81374693
Equality and Acceptance.
It's too bad that this girl never got the chance to fully embrace diversity.
>>81379287
Don't argue with Satan
>>81379287
Try the 5th largest empire in history.
>>81374807
/thread.
>>81374693
you cant though. When asked about KKK (which isnt a religious org) and westboro 99% of christians disagree with them. When you ask a muslim, over 80% agree with them. checkmate OP
>>81379328
>They kill Muslims for crying out loud, that is not what real Muslims do.
Were in the Koran dose it say you can't kill Muslims of others sects or who you consider a heretic?
>>81379287
You fucking idiot. "Small raiding bands" eliminated 4 of the 5 centres of Christianity, leaving only Rome.
Antioch, Damascus, Alexandria, Jerusalem all fell to muslims. The whole middle East with its different religions was conquered by Islam.
>>81379287
Agreed, but watch out, now they'll start attacking you too with ad hominems and threats.
>>81374693
Uh but I don't separate them ? Sometimes your peers are just retards.
>a gay man defending Islam
the world is truly gone to hell
>>81374693
People are so focused on the worst of what Islam has to offer they've forgotten that even at it's best Islam is shit and you shouldn't want to be anywhere near it.
ISIS is more comparable with the Tripura, Anti-Balaka, or other very active Christian terrorist groups than the largely dormant KKK.
Also, memes aside, many Muslims (especially Westernized ones) are against violence. What's more, you'd be surprised to find the number of Christians in the world with radical views.
Westboro are protestcucks, so they literally don't matter.
>>81377156
Reading this gave me a weird nauseous feeling in my head for half a second and a flashback of younger, more degenerate days of my life
>>81374693
>a dozen people holding up mean signs is comparable to multiple terror cells and militarized movements
>>81379690
I don't know, I have never read the Quran, but I'm pretty sure any faith tells you not to kill people, especially if they are of your own faith. Especially in 2016/modern times.
>>81374693
> Because the KKK has the name of a religion they follow that tells them to hate in their name.
> Making it sound like a group of baptists that talk loudly are as bad as murderers.
The mental leaps and bounds these people make to stick up for terrorists.
>>81374693
Do all Muslims who kill non-Muslims belong to a certain kind of Islam?
>>81379498
She did embrace diversity, at a young age.
>>81379795
Islam even at its best with a democratic framework still manages to elect an authoritarian dictator who supports ISIS and other jihad.
>>81378859
Which was then later retracted
I don't separate them. They're all subhumans only fit to be slaves.
>>81378819
The shortest summarization is that you were just raped
>>81376012
Treatment of Christians was discriminatory but not nearly as bad as what happened to religious minorities in Europe.
>>81375477
Nice bait
You can't separate HIV from fags, though.
>>81375477
WBC has never killed anyone
The Klan killed and threatened people in small numbers, but their actions were never religiously motivated, even if they were christians
ISIS (hint in the name) butchers and kills people daily explicitly in the name of Islam.
>Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades
Everyone persecuted each other, because nobody knew any better at the time. I'd like to think the world (minus Islam) is a bit more civilized now.
>and they also persecuted Jews and other minorities in Germany during WWII
Nazi Germany's hatred of jews was not motivated by religion.
>>81377123
We need that spongebob gif of this.
>>81377123
Nice strawman
>>81379882
Yes, they're all Sunnis with roots in Wahabbism. Essentially they're all Saudi shills who the royal family fund and arm.
>>81379287
>Small invasions
>>81377006
>implying Islam is unique in being a religion with a violent past
>>81374693
>KKK
Not Christians
>WBC
Christians, peaceful assholes.
>ISIS
Muslims with a spine
>Muslims
Cowards who support Muslims with a spine.
>>81379782
I'm neither gay nor a man, unless you are talking about the person in my photo.
>>81379848
Again, it goes to the fact that they emotionally hurt grieving families in a critical time.
>>81379964
But actual Muslims still believe in the idea that they cannot hurt fellow Muslims.
>>81380025
Suuuuurrrreee thing.
>>81380104
?
>>81380145
The KKK killed dozens of people, and their sympathizers, although not members, killed many more, but the blood goes to the KKK for inspiring those actions.
The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
>>81380282
Hahahaha yeah, I just like rubbing it in your faces because nobody has ever given me a good response
>>81377879
>Their prayers emotionally harm people
Somebody hurt your fee-fees?
Grow thicker skin.
>>81380373
>Islam not being unique means we shouldn't criticize it
Fuck off
>>81374693
OP keeps posting this thread and you autists keep replying.
>>81374693
When's the last time the westboro church or KKK killed somebody... if ever?
When's the last time ISIS has killed somebody? And how many? Okay then.
>>81374693
The Westboro folk arr probably better people than many of these posh SJW faggots.
>>81380121
Gay guy here, so it's okay for you to say this, because I laughed. Real hard.
>>81380397
God dammit.
ITS THE FUCKING GULF-JEWS. THE SAUDIS ARE BEHIND IT ALL AND YOU KEKS KEEP OBFUSCATING THUS FACT BY SAYING ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.
>islamic countries are hell holes and lack human rights
>ISIS appears
>islamic countries are hell holes and lack human rights
>ISIS disappears/gets destroyed
>islamic countries are STILL hell holes and lack human rights
>>81379287
I bet you don't care that Muslims conqured most of Spain, and that it was under their rule for several centuries before they were driven out.
>>81379558
By landmass, yes.
But most of that was outside of Europe. Spain and the Balkans are tiny compared to Arabia and North Africa.
https://twitter.com/cgbposts/status/696409795159531520
https://twitter.com/cgbposts/status/696409795159531520
https://twitter.com/cgbposts/status/696409795159531520
https://twitter.com/cgbposts/status/696409795159531520
https://twitter.com/cgbposts/status/696409795159531520
>>81379860
>I don't know, I have never read the Quran,
So you admit your defending a faith you don't actually know anything about?
>but I'm pretty sure any faith tells you not to kill people, especially if they are of your own faith.
Muslims don't consider people outside of their sect to be real muslims.
Especially in 2016/modern times.
Good thing the koran was written in the 7th century and most Muslims believe that it should be interpreted literately.
>>81380399
>I'm neither gay nor a man
>nor a man
That explains it, you have Stockholm syndrome.
>>81379964
Depending on the school of thought. It's still in the Koran.
>>81377156
>yawn
>>>/vice.tumblr.com/
>>81374693
Except that the average muslim supports isis or sharia while the average Christian condemns the kkk and wbc.
>>81380399
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=5bf_1468545131
Here's the video of what getting hit by the assault truck in Nice feels like.
WBC holds signs that say God hates fags. Which isn't 'nice' but more or less true.
Nice B8, matey.
>>81380631
Getting rid of all Muslims would be a benefit to the world as a whole, that's indistutable
>>81380660
Syria was a secular country until the US, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia decided to create ISIS to "isolate the Syrian regime."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/
Its all fucking there. Stop blaming the sheep when its obvious that the major internationalist players are the ones behind everything.
>>81380328
They forgot to mention that the myriad invasions of Europe killed at most several thousand, while the Crusades may have killed millions.
Why are you guys responding to this shit?
>>81374693
But in the interest of peer pressure, I don't separate those things.
KKK are christians, WBC are christians, ISIS are muslims, and I don't give a fuck.
>>81380399
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
I'm ashamed it took me this long to figure out this was bait. In the off chance it isn't, you should buy a plane ticket to France, make your way to Nice, and tell the hospitalized victims how emotional damage is worse than physical.
>>81378780
lets keep it that way
>>81380700
They conquered a substantial portion of the byzantine empire.
>>81378780
>refugees 0
Sure, but just because the Orlando shooter wasnt a refugee doesn't mean he wasn't a MUSLIM. Same goes for the San Bernardino shooter, bataclan ahooter, Istanbul bomber, Boston marathon bombers, charlie hebdo shooters, Nice tanned ice cream delivering frogman, Tunisia massacre, etc.
>>81378780
There have been plenty of people killed by refugees in 15 years you liar.
>>81380399
>The KKK killed dozens of people
On the other hand, Muslims are killing hundreds, if not thousands of people yearly.
KKK killings were isolated cases, with muslims they are common. This isn't just ISIS killing people while warring, it's regular people doing things like stoning others to death.
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
Your opinion is shit.
>>81381035
Being shit at war doesn't make the other side wrong.
>>81379287
>>81379719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
>>81374693
How do I goddamn know your posting pattern when I barely even lurk here, jesus christ it's so cancerous.
>>81374693
What if I don't separate the KKK and WBC from Christianity?
>>81381033
It was still a shithole without muh hoomun rights though, it is just infinitely worse now.
>>81380799
I kind of know about Islam since I had a Muslim friend a while back.
The Quran covers all sects, from Catholic Muslims to Indonesian Muslims to African Muslims and so fourth.
>>81380854
I don't get it?
>>81380997
Both are pretty bad
>>81381047
Sure thing, if the WBC is in town and they protest at the funerals, I'm sure they'll see the angle where I'm coming from
>>81381331
And you have your own opinion too, but I won't insult you for that
>>81381380
Not interested in videos made by right-wing groups.
>>81381252
Thanks for agreeing.
>>81380399
>The KKK killed dozens of people, and their sympathizers, although not members, killed many more, but the blood goes to the KKK for inspiring those actions.
>dozens of people
Still not even a fraction of the number of lives that radical islam has claimed. Again, their actions were not influenced by religion, whilst radical islam kills people in the name of their religion every single day.
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
No it's not. It's not even on the same level. I was physically abused for 15 years, so I have a reasonably good idea of the differences between physical and emotional damage.
>>81381002
Its the internationalists, not the rabble. The major players fund all these fundamentalist movements in order to establish a pretext for a police state.
The NSA surveillance programs are the most explicit result of this. The programs cost $5-10 billion a year and everyone who has reviewed the programs have come to the same conclusion: not a single terrorist plot has been foiled by it.
The Islamofascist sand niggers have enslaved and slaughtered million of Indigenous European peoples. The Christian Crusades was just mass retaliation after centuries of Islamic oppression and genocide.
>>81374693
oh look
copy pasta
>>81374693
Westboro has never killed anyone and the last time the KKK actually lynched anyone was before most of you were even born.
Fuck, why do we keep responding to this bait.
>>81381148
>wants more deaths
uh, okay. FBI, are you watching?
>>81374807
FPBP
>>81378859
You can kill jews and Christians if they refuse to pay extra taxes or convert to Islam. I've read the Qur'an from cover to cover and it has plenty of hatred for Christians and jews. They are to be treated as second class citizens and they're all going to hell. Polytheists are killed outright. It's one sick book.
fuck yew blimey cunts eh
>>81375477
>And not all Christians oppose them.
Ask 100 Christians if they're willing to denounce the WBC on the record, I can guarantee every one informed enough to have an opinion would.
Ask 100 mudslimes if they'd denounce ISIS, they'd walk away.
Also, God doesn't answer prayers for wrath.
>>81381449
It's basic history. The Muslim conquests continued over a hundreds of years. They're arguably still going on today.
>>81375477
>go, Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades,
It wasn't persecution, it was war you fucking idiot. A defensive war that was called because islam was raiding and conquering christian land
>>81381444
It wasn't a bastion of civil liberties, but that's no reason for the US to depose Assad by creating a terrorist organization to fight him.
>>81374693
Just waiting on those pesky muslims to separate ISIS from Islam.
>>81381656
Christians are always defending themselves as wimps. Beta, not alpha.
>>81381637
>irish complaining about terrorism
Perhaps we should have carpet bombed your country because of the IRA.
>>81380399
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
>>81381449
>Both are pretty bad
ReeeeeeeeEEE.
Gas yourself, kike.
>>81381779
God dammit. I already have. The Saudis are behind all modern Islamic terrorism. ISIS was specifically created by the US to establish a "caliphate and isolate the Syrian regime."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/
>>81381518
No problem, but don't you dare fucking think white supremacy killings are done in the name of God like Islamic massacres are both taught and done by their religion.
>>81374693
how many people have the KKK and Westboro Baptists killed?
>>81381711
I wholly agree, look at every Islamic country that got "democracy" Iran, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, and now trying to do Syria. These countries had strong-arm gov'ts because if they didn't islamists would take over or at least become major shit-disturbers.
>>81374989
>>81375005
>>81374861
Not KKK or WBC, but there was the Planned Parenthood shooter a few months ago, and the multiple attacks by pro-life christians in the 90s. Are those representative of Christians?
>>81381545
Sorry to hear that.
I have to say that the KKK has a religious-like structure, and they were composed mainly of people from Protestantism, Baptism and Freemasonry, all very anti-Catholic religions tat thrived in the anti-Italian and anti-Irish fad of their day
>>81381623
And what of those without education? Some people support them, like Huckabee and Bachman
>>81381637
Oh, I see. I guess I should watch it
>>81381656
Persecution caused by war
>>81381881
I'm not Jewish, I'm Vietnamese
>>81382056
They have slaughtered, beheaded and dismembered the feelings of countless faggots.
>>81381981
I'm thinking it right now. And now. And again, now.
>>81381794
Ottomans were begging for help from britain and france in the crimean war so that Russia wouldn't completely destroy them. If europeans weren't so altruistic you'd still be living in a mud hut or as a slave for a european empire. So stronk
>>81381449
>I'm sure they'll see the angle where I'm coming from
You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think they'd share it.
>>81380373
>past
did you mean present?
>ISLAMIC TRUCK OF PEACE
>>81382090
There are no Islamists without Saudi funding. The Saudis have been openly funding the Muslim Brotherhood for years.
Get rid of the Saudis and most of this dhit goes away.
>>81382287
I don't really care. No congratulations here.
>>81382117
>Persecution caused by war
Source? War casualties caused by looting don't count as persecution
>>81374693
>relegius killing
>racist killing
>relegius racist killings
This person should stop breathing
>tasty bait bro
not so sure desu. christianity is doing what jesus did, islam is doing what mohammed did. only one of them was a mass murdering peadophile
>>81382245
Then you a fucking faggot and one of the people bringing on the downfall of the west and everything our ansestors have strived to achieve
>>81374693
b-but ISIS isn't Islamic. Remember?
>>81382566
Muslims are weak pussies who rely on the west, and you're a living example of it. you ungrateful fucks should all be deported back to your shitholes
>>81375477
>Hitler was a Christian
>In 1937, Hans Kerrl, Hitler's Minister for Church Affairs, explained "Positive Christianity" as not "dependent upon the Apostle's Creed", nor in "faith in Christ as the son of God", upon which Christianity relied, but rather, as being represented by the Nazi Party: "The Fuehrer is the herald of a new revelation", he said.[171]
If you have a Christian upbringing, baptism, attendance of mass, the works, and then you forsake your belief in God and stop participating in any form of Christian community when you get older, are you still a Christian at that point?
Hitler tolerated Christianity because he had no other choice; the German people weren't going to immediately accept the promotion of a new state religion over their oldest and dearest beliefs and traditions.
>>81382840
It's happening!
>>81374693
>Implying the left is able to separate any of that from Christianity
In a sane western society these SJW freaks would not be allowed to voice their abominable babble. They should be forcibly apprehended and shipped to a labor or thrown into some obscure mental institution..
>>81382933
Since 2001--Americans Killed By,
Refugees: 0
White Supremacists: 48
>>81374693
*rules the waves behind you*
jesus was not a raping pedophile warmonger though, unlike another monotheistic prophet .
>>81382932
Its not. Its a Turkish, American, and Saudi front to "establish a caliphate and isolate the Syrian Regime."
Thanks CIA.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/pgs-287-293-291-jw-v-dod-and-state-14-812-2/
>>81374861
/thread
>>81374693
You post this every.fucking.day.
Bye-bye.
>>81374693
Any church that runs in the Calvinist schools of thought is to be discarded post-haste; that is inclusive of almost all baptist denominations.
>picture related
>>81383238
He disappeared for 30 years, so we really don't know. As for being a warmonger, I would bet that less people have died by the hand of Islamic extremism than Christian imperialism.
>>81374693
>KKK=ISIS
Is this common core math?
>>81374693
>Seperate the KKK and Westboro baptist church from Christianity
Nobody really does this though. It is acknowledged that they are Christian organizations, just really fucked up ones that have views that most other Christians don't agree with, but they are indeed Christian.
ISIS, however, has views that MOST Muslims agree with (about 60-80% depending on the country you ask) so the comparison isn't a good one to make.
ISIS is as Islamic as Catholicism is Christian.
>>81380399
>The WBC emotionally hurts people which is as bad as actually physically hurting them, in my opinion.
And people wonder why women aren't taken seriously in politics.
Remember that time westboro baptist church made a truck made out of signs saying god hates fags and then proceed to mow into a field of people celebrating the 4th of july?
>>81374693
Westboro Baptist Church and Christians
>"God hates fags" and being crass at a soldiers funerals
Islam and radical Muslims/ISIS
>kills indiscriminately trying to maximize carnage in every attack
Yeah fuck you.
>>81374693
But that is wrong. Both of those are technically Christian, they're just different sects.
It's the same as the difference between a Sunni and Shi'ite.
>>81383136
That's because america barely accepted any refugees at all. However if you look at France, they've had like a dozen terrorist attacks since refugees started flooding into europe
>>81383551
And your basis for this is...?
>>81375477
>hundreds of years ago
yeah, and hundreds of years ago Muslims were the ones who triggered the crusades by doing the exact same shit they're doing today- Killing and raping people
>>81383599
So my opinion is invalid because I'm a girl? That sounds like something the people you oppose would be saying.
>>81383728
Read the last few posts.
>>81383895
They could have pushed them away, going to the Mid East was way too far and they became the conquerors.
>>81383565
What?
>>81383893
The Spanish alone killed several million in South America alone. They were trying to "Bring Jesus to the barbarians."
if christanity/westboro/kkk was the predominant religion in the middle east, what is there, theologically speaking, to stop the people from using that religion instead of islam as their reason for incitement and murder??
>>81374693
When's the last time either of those groups bombed anything? Did anything violent, for that matter.
>>81384130
The WBC taunts people at their loved ones funeral which can be somewhat violent, and the KKK encourages a full scale race war, which is pretty violent.
>>81382115
I'll bite.
I'm christian, and I'll disavow any asshole who goes full autism shoots up a place. This includes the terrorists who shot up the abortion clinic.
Now it's the Muslims' turn to disavow ISIS and Assad.
>protestants
Nope. Nothing to defend here.
>>81383977
Are you saying thats not how it fucking worked WAY BACK THEN?
You're telling me that because they took more then the others that they're the bad guys suddenly, when they were fighting back someone who was being a thorn in their side for a while
Muslims have not changed for centuries, and people like you are the reason their borders are always going to be bloody, cause you keep trying to give them the benefit of the doubt
murderers guna murder
haters guna hate
the words of their book don't make a difference.
show me a religious diety text that fundies can't pervert.
>>81374693
But the KKK and Westburo are Christian. It's just that they have to do a lot more work to get their views from their book. Muslims have it is. They had a war leader as their founder. It's a bit harder for Christians when your leader died on a cross. Christians can make it work with the old testament and ideas of the coming glory. But it is much easier as a Muslim.
Look OP.
KKK and Westboro Church are de facto separated from Christianity because they have zero influence on Christianity or recognition from it.
You don't have European Christians going all the way to the US to become members of Westboro, nor Europeans pledging allegiance to the KKK from their home and burning crosses in their city to follow KKK's ways.
Whereas ISIS attracts new recruits and inspires terrorists all over the world, whose only common thing with ISIS was the muslim faith.
Today any muslim in the western world who is pissed and tired of life for some reason will go ISIS.
Also KKK's old lynching/hanging practices went against Christian faith (thou shalt not kill) and burning a cross is pretty anti-christian, everything one blames on the KKK is actually anti-christian.
As for WBC, their hateful speech go against the teachings of Jesus. Judaism would probably allow their behaviour (more annoying than physically harmful when all is said and done), Christianity (which is the belief in Jesus and the New Testament) doesn't.
Whereas everything ISIS is blamed for, from slavery to corporal punishments and mutilations through killing of "infidels", ARE indeed prescribed in the muslim holy book which is the Quran. It's all in there.
Also a last more simple but still valid argument : can't separate ISIS from Islam because it even has "Islam" in it to begin with. Islam-ic state, duh.
(btw I'm not a believer, sayin just in case)
>>81374693
Liberal here, fuck off with your false equivalency. KKK, basically a non-problem compared to Islamic Terrorism. Westboro Baptist doesn't go around killing christians, they just use emotional assaults, which if you try to compare that to killing people, you're a fucking retard. KTHXBAI.
>>81384386
I don't give them the benefit of the doubt, I just think it's wrong to think ISIS and a few others represents an entire religion.
Every religion has their bad group, including Islam, but it doesn't make the ideology bad.
Are all fascists inherently bad people? Are all Republicans inherently bad people? They aren't, many of which are individuals with good interests, the same with Islam but ISIS doesn't see that vision
>>81384062
The Muslims have been killing and enslaving in the name of Allah since it's inception and never slowed down unlike Christianity, I wouldn't count them out.
>>81374693
You successfully separated KKK and Christianity?!
Holy shit, tell me how.
2 white guys are in front of you, one KKK the other just a Christian, how did you tell them apart?
>>81384687
Whoa, all those insults sure got me to side with you
>>81384386
agreed. muslim culture in the middle east is rotten to the core and responsible for mass murder.
now lets talk about people not associated with that culture and their likelyhood to be violent. seems kkk/wbc/isis will always emerge.
heck, you don't need to be relgious to go on a murder spree in the name of your emotions.
>>81374693
I don't speprate them though
*sips tea*
>>81381035
>myriad invasions of Europe killed at most several thousand
Surely, you are trolling.
>>81384687
single insult. not to mention, you seem to be skirting your way around my arguments.
>>81374693
ISIS are true muslims and the KKK are true christians
>>81383551
there is a difference in the prophet himself being a warmonger or the followers.
christians can actually claim that this is not what jesus thought because as far as we know he never thought that and never acted like that unlike muhammad.
that was my whole point.
>inb4 you come againt with that lame ass refute that we don't know what jesus was doing
you are right ofcourse we don't know, but when you can't clear things up your point is pretty much moot.
as things stand right now muhammad was a warmongering rapist and jesus was not.
I don't think KKK has anything to do with Christianity, other than burning crosses and churches, which is more anti-Christian than anything.
As far as Westboro Baptist Church, I don't separate them from Christianity at all, but the difference is that virtually no Christians support WBC, while most Muslims do support ISIS.
>>81374693
I've seen this exact thread before, same picture and same "sips tea" bit. You fell for the b8 /pol/, you should have saged.
I don't see the westboro baptist church or even the KKK today killing anyone though
>>81384793
>but it doesn't make the ideology bad.
Except with the case of Islam the ideology is flawed and violent to begin with... Christianity has the new testaments to pull itself from the dark ages
Islam doesnt have that, they're still going from the words of a pedophile and a warmonger
>>81384685
the bible says kill people who mix dairy and meat. maybe that's why the kkk lynched people. or maybe it was for wearing wool and linen together. that's a sin you know, so maybe that's why kkk lynched people.
bottom line is all the religous books have excuses for murder. blaming books isn't the answer. we need to change culture or step up the military game against agitators. aka drone assad you pussy
then again, civil war in africa seems to be popular. what's their excuse? watches?
>>81383733
>admits that most syrian refugees are not terrorists
I hate watching people hitting themselves.
No, wait. I love it.
>>81374693
>17 posts by this ID
>>81384793
i'm beginning to think 4chan can't discuss theology and ideology. it's like asking /b/ to count to ten.
though this morning we had this same discussion and the tldr is something is wrong with islam
>>81374693
>Total people killed by the KKK and Westboro in the past 20 years: 0
>Total people killed by ISIS in the past 2 years: probably >100000
>>81375477
>Also remember that hundreds of years ago
But Jesus died for my sins specifically so that I am allowed to live in today rather than spending all of eternity tracking down the sins of my forefathers on some insane permanent guilt bender.
ISIS and many other Muslim factions kill and persecute people today, right now, all over the world.
>>81375850
Underrated
>>81374693
If you combine both the WBC and the KKK, their numbers don't come anywhere near the numbers of members of ISIS
The WBC and KKK (in recent years at least) have murdered a grand total of zero people
Not only that, but the vast majority of Christians do not support the WBC and KKK, and will actually denounce them. The same cannot be said of Muslims and ISIS.
>>81374693
that doesn't change the fact that all muslims want to do is take over western government and enact sharia law. they may not all be isis but all of them are mudslimes.
>>81380399
>I'm neither gay nor a man
>nor a man
Post tits with timestamp or GTFO.
>>81375477
Hitler was not a Christian, he called it flabby and a hindrance to the German conquest, he favored Islam
>>81385525
It isn't fair to say "all" in this case
>>81385440
But the KKK still wants a race war that would kill literally billions
>>81385407
???
>>81385223
blah. you don't get to rewrite the word of god to "pull you out of the dark ages"
IMO you follow the word of god or you're not religious. christanity is a hodge podge of human writers. new testament is basically the hadith and sunna. written by men.
torah, book of moses, quran, those came from god. and they're bloody as hell.
>>81374693
How do these people even?
What do they think would happen if some openly gay person would walk around in a predominantly muslim/arab country?
Do they not know that gays are raped, or thrown off roofs, or stoned etc?
Are they just that ignorant, or have they literally no survival instinct?
>>81385626
I'm not perverted, sorry
>>81385681
He wasn't allied with Turkey or any other Muslim nation though
>>81383551
the 'christian' imperialism meme. from the christian pov of the time, every non christian soul is hellbound so if you kill 100,000 and convert one who wouldnt have been converted before then you have done god a great service. its insane of course, but such a mentality cannot and wll not be found these days. nor was it found during the first few centuries of christianity during which they were horribly persecuted. not like islam at all, the history of islam is a history of war, barbarism and spreading religion by the sword, forced conversion, sectarian genocide etc islam's dna is violent im afraid bro.
>>81375477
>Also remember that hundreds of years ago
What happened hundreds of years ago literally doesn't matter.
I reserve the right to judge a religion based on what its contemporary adherents do in the name of their religion and not some hypothetical version.
>>81385933
so is judiasm
>>81385725
Of couse it's fair to say "all". If in the Bible it said "and force them to follow the ways of allah and even kill them after that", you wouldn't say, hey the KKK is a small minority of christians, we can't judge all christians based on them. The Bible never instructs people to kill all non-believers.
>>81385890
>I'm not perverted, sorry
Then you are not a woman then, we will treat you like a man until you prove otherwise, with tits and timestamp being your only option.
I'm starting to think this might not be a bait thread.
>>81386063
then you're not judging the religion in its theological completeness, you're judging the adherents who are most likely as uneducated as you.
if we're talking about going to war against islam, and mass deportations, or rights revokings, then we need to approach it from theology and not your way.
>>81374693
What if I don't want to separate them?
>>81374693
>Westboro Baptist Church
>Christian
>>81385725
>But the KKK still wants a race war that would kill literally billions
According to what do you base this on?
Could you link me to an official KKK mission statement that says it wants a "race war"?
Additionally, the KKK only exists in the USA, there are <1bn people in the USA and therefore billions would be impossible.
Furthermore, "wanting" there is a whole Grand Canyon of difference between "wanting" violence and actually murdering thousands, maybe millions of people as ISIS alone has done, and that's not even counting all the other countless death and genocide in other countries in the name of Islam.
>>81385231
'the bible'
old testament=all but completely invalid to most christians.
christianity is following christ, as in jesus and accepting him as your lord and saviour etc.
>>81374693
Except those are minority groups. They're, what, less than a hundred thousand? Out of billions? Radical Muslims top out at over 800,000,000 out of 1.5 billion. Muslims are a problem. Christian minority groups aren't.
Don't Islamic people poison other peoples dogs?
>>81386288
>then we need to approach it from theology
Why? That seems like the least practical way of evaluating a religious movement.
Especially if their religious texts are self contradictory or vague to the point where they could be used to justify anything.
Indeed, one might argue that you cannot judge a religion based on its theology.
so can we all agree they knew what they were doing when they had the opportunity and did not kill saddam hussien in the first gulf war? that guy sure kept the fundies down
>>81374693
Christians denounce WBC.
Also the KKK was not a Christian organization
>>81386541
funny. jesus didn't believe himself a deity. it's almost like christanity is man made............so your argument sucks because you can't create a religion for political purposes (see:religious excemptions for drug consumption)
>>81386683
because if we do it my way we can then explain to everyone that they're not religious and they do infact need to sit down.
>>81375477
Islam is right now where Christianity was during the 30 years war. This is readily observable in the clash between Shia and Sunni, just like the clash of Protestant and Catholic, and with all the fervent mysticism and superstition.
>>81386116
i dont disagree. forget about comparing christianity with other religions. its a personality cult around jesus, who is literally morally infallible.
jesus' message is very, very clear. mohammeds messages are also very very clear. one guy has legions of people who would literally die horribly before committing sin and the other has adherents who believe non believers are inhuman. do not try to equate christianity with islam, jesus with mohammed. you must see how laughable that is buddy.
>>81385231
>the bible
The basics of being Christian is believing that the teachings of Jesus supercede the retarded hebraic cultural practices from the Old Testament.
Jesus said "You shall not murder", therefore all the reasons the Jews found to contradict and go around their own command "Thou shalt not kill" aren't valid anymore to a Christian.
>drone Assad
You utter retard, a militaristic Ba'ath dictatorial regime is the only way to keep islamism under control in this region
>>81387127
this is a more reasonable view. however the schism in islam appeared the moment mohammed pbuh died and they hve been slaughtering each other since then, so youre back at square 1. islam and christianity are not comparable.
yeah i get that point but it upsets me because, let's call it the personality cult phenomenon.
IMO, ya gota follow the book itself. old testament or koran. not the cult following books that developed after (bible, hadith).
wonder how many athiests we could make in the world if we did this...
>>81387590
what's your credit card interest rate?
>>81386250
Oh nooooo, whatever shall I do!!!!
>>81386063
It does, as it still resonates today
>>81386370
They aren't, just like how ISIS calls itself Islamic. Neither represents the ideologies
If you can separate The Orlando Killer and The San Bernadino killer from Islam calling them "lone wolves" then you should be able to separate Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy from the label of "serial killers".
>>81387865
I don't get your meme
>>81387705
you're right. sunni and shia and the decendency issue.
...what if there was a seeekret in the quran that was only discovered 20 years ago that puts an end to that?
>>81374693
ISIS says KILL THE INFIDELS
They ask why
BECAUSE QURAN SAYS TO KILL THE INFIDELS
KKK says KILL BLACKS
Why? they ask.
BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE BLACKS WE THINK THEY ARE INFERIOR... yada yada yada
Wbc? Did they ever actually did anything?
The fuck does either kkk or wbc have to do with Christianity, where does it says it the bible (If you are going to cite the old testament you can fuck off already)
>>81378780
Boston Bombers were refugees m8
>>81387907
ted kazinsky, the unibomber, was a political and mathematical genius. a few more like him and what's next consistency wise?
>>81387907
What a qt
>>81388136
where does it say in the quran kill infidels?
lol yeah ok it probably does say that.
>>81376522
Not all poisons are arsenic.
>>81375665
Persecuted Muslims? You mean those muslims that were raiding, killing, raping, and enslaving Christians for about 450 years? Persecuted how? By fighting back? Fuck outta here
>>81375477
Praying for some ones death is a lot different than doing it.
>>81375477
>Yeah but the "moderate" Muslims and ISIS pray for deaths of people they hate, and their hatred is based off core beliefs of Islam. And few "moderate" Muslims oppose them.
ftfy
>>81388109
then you should tell the sunnis and the shias this great secret. after they kil you for heresy they wil go back to killing each other though obviously.
>>81386911
the parts of the jewish scripture that are included in the christian message (old testament) are there to provide counter balance to the story of jesus and his teachings. jesus IS christianity. he knew he was gods son, but all men are gods sons. he knew he was just a man. whats your point? yeah of course its man made, whats your point? the op says: if you can separate kkk from jesus then you should be able to separate islam form isis, but actually isis is the most pure form of islam whereas kkk are a organized criminal organisation that merely reference christianity. wbc dont count in this, they are non-violent so can do what they like, even if it offends people.
>>81387888
Can you refute this please.
The trick behind the apparent inconsistency of the Quran and why the radical Muslims are always correct: Like no other holy book among the world religions, the Quran contains an abundance of contradictory expressions. What is forbidden in one place is expressly demanded in another, and vice versa. However, the contradictory quality of the Quran is only an apparent one. It falls apart abruptly when one recognizes the very carefully protected secret hidden within the architecture of the Quran. For the Quranic Suras (chapters) are not arranged chronologically, but rather according to their length – and the newer Suras (from Muhammad’s violent later phase when he was in Medina) override the older ones from his era in Mecca that were comparatively more peaceful. However, this secret is guarded by Islamic scholars very closely as if it were a holy grail – and is aired only on particular occasions.
(An Essay from Michael Mannheimer, Germany, March 23, 2010)
If you want an example don't hesitate to ask.
>>81388274
An immigrant is not a refugee, son.
*pats head*
>>81387888
>They aren't, just like how ISIS calls itself Islamic. Neither represents the ideologies
True, doesnt chance the fact that the teachings of muhammad are barbaric.
not all "muslims" are raping mongrels, many hold more christian values than christians here.
Islam is flawed, muhammad copypasted a monotheistic religion while jesus revolutionised one.
>>81388959
4:75: why should you not fight in the cause of god when weak men, women, and children are imploring: "our lord, deliver us from this community whose people are oppressive, and be You our Lord and Master."
and oppression is worse than murder.
>>81375477
>Also remember that hundreds of years ago, Christianity persecuted Muslims under the crusades
>use religious conquest as casus belli against Byzantine Empire repeatedly
>put the squeeze on A LEADER OF AN OPPOSING RELIGION RESIDING IN CONSTANTINOPLE
>act butthurt hundreds of years later because he countered with a call for religious conquest of his own
Crusades were justified. Reconqista was justified as well.
>>81374693
shill bait.
sage and move on lads
>>81389387
I can't
>>81389546
They weren't. They should have left it as a status quo
>>81389609
Suuuurrrreee thing
>>81389337
gime the microphone. the dude who found the seekret got murdered in like 93. killers were caught in like 07
>>81389387
that's true. and they really don't like the part in the quran that says something about the bigger, the more important.
>>81389798
>They weren't. They should have left it as a status quo
>Have your lands conquered
>Leave it as Status Quo
>>81389798
>I can't
It proves that ISIS are the true Muslims following their doctrine. Why are you defending Islam when you haven't bothered to research Islamic theology?
Example.
Example
The Qur'an is unique among sacred scriptures in accepting a doctrine of abrogation in which later pronouncements of the Prophet declare null and void his earlier pronouncements.
>Chapter 9 of the Qur'an, in English called "Ultimatum," is the most important concerning the issues of abrogation and jihad against unbelievers. It is the only chapter that does not begin "in the name of God, most benevolent, ever-merciful."[54] Commentators agree that Muhammad received this revelation in 631, the year before his death, when he had returned to Mecca and was at his strongest.[55] Muhammad bin Ismail al-Bukhari (810-70), compiler of one of the most authoritative collections of the hadith, said that "Ultimatum" was the last chapter revealed to Muhammad[56] although others suggest it might have been penultimate. Regardless, coming at or near the very end of Muhammad's life, "Ultimatum" trumps earlier revelations.
>Because this chapter contains violent passages, it abrogates previous peaceful content. Muhsin Khan, the translator of Sahih al-Bukhari, says God revealed "Ultimatum" in order to discard restraint and to command Muslims to fight against all the pagans as well as against the People of the Book if they do not embrace Islam or until they pay religious taxes. So, at first aggressive fighting was forbidden; it later became permissible (2:190) and subsequently obligatory (9:5).[57] This "verse of the sword" abrogated, canceled, and replaced 124 verses that called for tolerance, compassion, and peace.[58]
Suyuti said that everything in the Qur'an about forgiveness and peace is abrogated by verse 9:5, which orders Muslims to fight the unbelievers and to establish God's kingdom on earth.
http://www.meforum.org/1754/peace-or-jihad-abrogation-in-islam
>>81389387
i think alot of it has to do with picking verses and spreading them instead of whole chapters. i think they got it from christians.
Fresh news
The vice-chairman of French Imams' Conference just resigned to protest against the general silence of French muslim institutions.
He criticizes their reluctance to condemn openly the Islamic terror attacks of last years, their mutism once again this time was the last straw for him apparently.
As a matter of fact the typical post-attack reaction official representatives of islam in France is to ask for French people "not to make generalizations" and worry about potentially ensuing islamophobia, rather than express anger at the terrorists or damning them to hell
This was just your daily reminder that moderate muslims are the minority.
passive =/= moderate
What is commonly called moderatism is actually passivity. Any muslim who won't kill or preach hate is automatically supposed to be a moderate, even when he can actually be quite radical in his mind. Moderate muslims as in muslims feeling authorized to reject parts of the Quran (the violent ones) are a tiny minority.
The unconvenient truth is that most muslims consider the Quran to be holy as a whole and neither dare to question any part of it nor can't find it in their heart to blame another muslim for killing of non-muslims, as such killings are prescribed by the Quran after all.
>>81374693
>*sips tea*
Triggered.
>>81390411
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller
>>81390168
9.1 - an ultimatum is herein issued from god and his messenger to the idol worshipers who enter into a treaty with you.
my seektret quran says this chapter has been tampered with and has two appendices to talk about it.
there's literally a third sect of islam. sunni, shia, and "quranist alone 19" the 19 is a math code that no one has broke, discovered by the translator who made this quran. rashad khalifa. the TLDR: ignore muhammed
>>81390310
>got it from Christians
Fuck off ahmed.
>>81390411
yeah agreed.
but france this is a problem your complicit in... there are areas in france the police are too scared to enter.........
>>81390749
>all this pathetic rationalizing
Stop trying faggot.
>>81374693
What, all 40 members of them?
In June 2016, there were 238 Islamic attacks in 33 countries, in which 2055 people were killed and 2006 injured.
Since 1st January 2016, there has been 1274 Islamic attacks in 50 countries, in which 11774 people were killed and 14303 injured.
Since 9/11, Islamists have committed 28,833 acts of terrorism globally.
Could anyone please provide me with information regarding Christian terror acts during this period of time please?
>>81389798
>They weren't. They should have left it as a status quo
>I know your lands were forcibly taken from you, but you need to accept the status quo
I realize that we can only discuss hypotheticals in this case, but do you really think it would have ended there if they had just accepted "the status quo"?
>>81390967
Yes indeed.
I'll go even further and say that the French state has become the enemy of the French people (in the ethnic meaning)
We need a revolution urgently and a complete purge of the political and media establishment, simultaneous or preceding the massive remigration of as many muslims as possible
>>81392034
sounds idealistic. i approve 95%. the other 5% of me witnessed the arab spring...and it was a mess. revolution does not bring what you hope.
>>81374693
If you can separate USA from US military then you can separate Isis from Islam.
>>81374693
Democrats started the KKK, not christians FYI
>>81379287
>small invasions by camel-riding nomads
spain was blacked
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