>Men are finding that fleshlights (soon to be sexbots) and porn are generally easier to deal with and more fulfilling than the modern woman
>Women are finding out that their bang toys can only do so much before they desire a man's paycheck and attention
Prove me wrong /pol/
>protip: I'd actually like an honest discussion
Bonus question: Is this how the West will fall? With neckbearded virgin men cumming in animatronic pornstars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE83SX7YCQo
who are you quoting?
>>81337390
JLO
Sandniggers and jews will continue to have arranged marriages.
We fucked up by worshipling ''romance'' over duty and practicality
>>81337229
all it mean is only attractive and/or poor people will reproduce
>>81337229
It seems like a novelty.
If they were fully autonomous and could do things like wash dishes and clean the floor it'd be worth getting one, but it wouldn't really need a pussy or tits for that for me to consider it.
Besides I doubt they'll be down to the cost of a dish washer/roomba any time soon.
>>81337787
Agreed. Modern marriages are worth shit. How many people marrying for love actually last?
>>81337229
They really piss off feminists so by default they should be pretty good for men.
>>81338205
Idk
I find it gross and im a male virgin.
Even an average ugly girl would feel better than a piece of plastic.
This shit would only be a major threat to society if it was full VR with direct neural feed
>>81338118
I mean it doesn't have to be sexbots though, their rise in popularity is just a testimony to my point that men are sick of dealing with the modern woman and her infinite bullshit. A hand and the internet is good enough for alot of men.
>>81338607
Oh it'll get there friend. Technology constantly improves upon itself.
I think that men more often than not are attracted to the physical of a relationship whereas women are attracted to the concept of a relationship and the perks that come with it.
>>81338671
I haven't personally dated any women I'd consider to be trash but I have broken up with the majority of them because I can't be bothered with their demands on my time (even if simply implied and not explicitly stated).
>>81338671
>>81338982
you sound pretty spurned anon. loners are gonna lone and that's that.
>>81339174
Perhaps. I'm irritated by alot of things nowadays.
>>81339051
My last two relationships were mostly me spending alot of money and time for very little in return. Perhaps I'm just a magnet to bad women, but that's my experience.
>>81339929
>My last two relationships were mostly me spending alot of money and time for very little in return. Perhaps I'm just a magnet to bad women, but that's my experience.
To be honest with you my blood relation that sounds like a problem with your judgement.
Never put the pussy on a pedestal.
>>81337229
Sexbots are a terrible idea and will only cause more harm than good. Why? Because real women have one thing that no robot can ever have under any circumstance, and that is free will. You can debate over whether free will is actually free or not, but the fact of the matter is that an AI cannot think for itself the way a person can. An AI does not have the same ability that a person has to make choices. You could say that AI and people are the same because they can both take past experiences and apply them to their situation and make a judgment based upon them by calculating the possibilities of things that happen, but at the end of the day, a sexbot would still be programmed to feed your desire for attention, rather than doing it because its what they actually want.
Only a very small minority of men want sexbot for the sole purpose of sex would be genuinely happy, the men that believe a sexbot would fulfill all their desires are just being willfully ignorant and will pay the price over time. A frog in boiling water doesn't know of its impending demise and all that.
Sexbots are an extremely dangerous path because of the mental scarring they could inflict upon people, they would be the ticking time-bomb for the more unstable people on the planet. What people need is not sex, what they need is to feel like they're wanted (barring aberrations like monks), and thats not something an AI can give, because int he back of everyones mind, they will know that the AI/Robot is with them because it was designed to be.
I'd still get one if they were less about sex and more about utility, like in "The Time of Eve" or "Chobits", where they have actual functions aside from just sex. A personal secretary to take care of the menial things like cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, and setting appointments would suit me better than a plastic toy that tells me it loves me.
>>81340809
t. woman
>>81340642
You're probably right, but it's still difficult when every gal I meet expects to be treated like a princess.
>>81340809
t. sjw
>>81341285
Perhaps it's a cultural thing, all my girlfriends have been happy enough to sit around smoking weed or drinking, fucking and watching movies, and they've all been fine with contributing financially to such activities.
>>81337229
I'd rather fuck an escort than a sexbot desu.
>>81340809
fuck off
>>81338124
Love is need.
>>81340809
>What people need is not sex, what they need is to feel like they're wanted
Wew, going through an edgy phase?
>>81341568
Can confirm. Spent most of my last relationship watching movies, smoking weed and having sex.
10/10 would recommend.
i want a maid bot that does simple tasks for me.
if its also a sex bot, then thats fine too, but not really important.
>>81340809
t. feminist nazi pedo SJW fucker.
>>81337787
The whole romance scam was made by the jews to ruin white birth rates. The generation of weak willed boomers openly welcomed every single sabotage of their own culture. Drugs, fornication, abandonment of family, feminism, no-fault divorce, etc ...
>>81341182
>>81341383
>>81341794
>>81341800
>>81342074
Fantastic arguments, you sure proved me wrong.
>>81341568
Not going to lie man one of my deepest affections was for an Aussie gal that I worked with online. We were great friends and Skyped long hours into the night. She even came out to the US once for a concert she and I performed in.
Unfortunately she was engaged (married now) and it would have never worked anyway since I'm in the states. I never told her how I felt, it wouldn't have been fair for her or her fiance who was actually a pretty great dude.
I guess the reason why I mention all of that is because I've never met a girl like that in the states, aside from one other but that one abandoned that mindset and went for Chad.
So now I'm stuck with a bunch of bitches that would rather use me for a few facebook likes and a instagram tweet.
>>81340809
You sound like a fag
And you type like a woman
kill yourself, bitch.
I don't even know what the fuck all the noise is with people going against sex bots either, they're just SEX TOYS.
I swear, people.
If men and women can get into something like the furry fandom and imagine having sex with a magical half-human half dog thing while creating rubber toys that simulate animal penis and vagina, we have alot more on our plate to worry about compared to just a few weeabo sex bots.
Humans are sexual creatures. People have their different fetishes. All this bullshit about how society is going to collapse because some neckbeard wants to get off? Fucking kill yourselves.
>>81342941
My favorite answer so far tbqh
>>81338607
>Even an average ugly girl would feel better than a piece of plastic
>male virgin
>implying you would be qualified to make that comparison.
It's not just a piece of plastic, it's quality silicone or other synthetic flesh-like material. You only think a woman feels better because of your delusionL virgin fantasies of how wonderful a real woman must be.
Pro tip: the average woman is overrated
>>81340809
>what they need is to feel like they're wanted
t b h that's not what womyn can provide either
>>81343407
kek
>>81343416
They're there to provide just that to their husbands though. If they can't, then they're on equal footing to a sex bot and it's up to the guys whichever they prefer.
This will instantly be banned the moment it starts to gain traction in any significant measure of the male population.
It'll all start with feminists claiming it's misogynistic, because it reduces women to objects, and from there the ball will roll until governments ban them.
>>81343407
Pretty much this
Also, dick punching a girls fart box usually feels better than vaginal. Tighter, warmer.
And the best women are the ones who fuck casually like a man would, with no drama or bullshit.
>>81344025
If loli's and furry sex toys exist, I highly doubt this shit will go anywhere.
Kinda like porn, this shit will never go anywhere. Prohibition has never worked out for those advocating it either.
>>81344025
But then they'd have to ban porn and hands too
the reason I support sexbots is because it will bring the power back to men.
Generally once a guy blows his load, his mind is kept off of sex for awhile. When I was 18 it's all I thought about. Being 27, I rarely think about it anymore and maybe jerk off or have sex once every 5-7 days. I've had a gf for awhile, and I know being without someone to talk to and cuddle would suck but I think I could get over it. I would prefer the real thing, but I have used a fleshlight before, and it's pretty satisfactory. I can only imagine what a full size sexbot could do for me.
Women could also get sexbots, but without the attention, emotions, support (money), social status, etc most women will be left wanting. Not to mention it's men that design these things, so again the power will be ours.
I think a real woman is the preferred choice, but in today's world of spoiled western women infected with feminism, I can totally support men just fucking robots until the power has shifted back into the man's favor. Once women start acting like real women and not entitled hypocritical princesses, then maybe we can get back to saving the white race by producing healthy children in healthy White families.
With poisonous women like >>81340809 and >>81335623, it's no wonder more men are preferring >>81337229 and women are feeling threatened by it.
>>81344342
>>81344429
To be fair he's relatively close to Germany so it's easy to see why one might think that.
>>81344342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxVBjfHzdI4
Feminists are already talking about it m8.
>>81344508
Except im not a woman, you're just using that as an excuse because you nor anyone else can actually counter anything i've said, you should really stop being the type of person you claim to be against, when you are exactly that.
>>81340809
>"N-no! No, you still need me! YOU STILL NEED ME"
You're on the way out once artificial wombs are created.
>>81344662
>Jincey Lumpkin
my fucking sides
>>81344925
Artificial wombs won't replace women, raising a family without a motherly figure will be just as damaging as raising a family without a father.
>>81344662
Oh, yeah?
Who cares?
Feminists have barged their way into almost every topic and hobby from comic books to video games, and movies here in the US.
Everywhere they go, no one takes them seriously.
And their reasoning and attitude against gay men also doesn't help their cause.
>>81345244
Then why do single-father households spit out way fewer fuckups than single-mother households?
>>81344895
You're delusional and need to get fucking laid, pleb.
>Artificial wombs won't replace women, raising a family without a motherly figure will be just as damaging as raising a family without a father
Oh yeah, cause niggers and other issues with American society don't cause that. Right? Sex bots are the end of times.
Jesus fucking christ you are dumb.
>>81338607
Now how would you know, you've never had sex.
>>81345450
Where are your statistics to back that up? prove me wrong, be the one person in this thread that has some form of legitimate argument.
>>81345638
May I refer you to the picture in this post? >>81344456
Because you sound an awful lot like a typical woman being angry about being disagreed with.
>>81340809
When women start calling acting with decency and not treating their male acquaintances like shit "emotional labor", the robots attachment to you is probably more real then theirs could ever be.
>>81346061
You're trying to twist this and it will not work.
You argue that sexbots will create damaging effects on society, when they are mere sex toys (like the other millions upon millions already in existence), bought by whoever, to be used in which ever way they please. Which is fine and does nothing but have a guy get his rocks off.
Your point would work better if you advocated for safe sex between casual partners or partners in general and to better plan parenthood, since the topic at hand is about single mothers apparently being too fucking dumb to understand how birth control works or they made the wrong choice with Jamal when her baby daddy decided to walk out.
You want to purge sex toys because of bad parenting? Is that it? Because it makes no goddamn sense, except maybe in your female mind.
If you really arn't a girl, you're being counter intuitive to your own well being and existence. Not just that, but your happiness as well.
>>81337229
Start gearing up for the Great Feminist War.
It's coming with the fembots.
>>81347554
>SJWs and Feminists becoming militant and violent about sexbots
>all out warefare in urban America, SJWs and Feminazis being mowed down by machine gun fire
pls, when????
>>81342365
>Prove my opinion wrong shitlords!
![Chobits S01E05 Chi Finds[Virus123][Bluray][720p][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_17.33_[2015.07.25_23.50.09].png](https://i.imgur.com/o7CbSGG.png "Chobits S01E05 Chi Finds[Virus123][Bluray][720p][Dual Audio].mkv_snapshot_17.33_[2015.07.25_23.50.09].png")
I am ready, in fact am already saving.
What a time to be alive!
>>81346977
You need to find the good women, they are out there, you're letting the Internet pollute your mind with anecdotes. It's great that you're absorbing information, but you also need to critically analyze it and sort it out into what is legitimate and what isn't. Anyone can say anything on the internet, but gobbling it all up will only cause you problems. I've met plenty of wonderful women, just as i've met plenty of toxic ones, grouping call women together as terrible things is the same as when feminists call all men rapists because they heard from their friends that someone somwhere was raped by a guy.
>>81347179
Yes, it is fine if people kept them exclusively as sex toys, but that will not be what happens, people already marry fictional characters, letting them get ahold of sexbots will create new problems, and they wont be isolated incidents. People will form emotional dependencies on sexbots and when those bots inevitably breakdown, so will the people that have projected everything onto them, just like how people break down when their pets die.
This isn't about safe sex, this is about the ramifications of letting people, both stable and not, have an object that has an extremely high chance of ruining their lives and the lives of those around them.
I don't want to urge sex toys, you're doing exactly what you accuse me of doing and twisting things around. Sex toys aren't bad, sex toys that people WILL claim are more than sex toys are. Sexbots would do more harm than good unless there were appropriate restrictions in place, just as there are with cars.
>>81348394
>You need to find the good women, they are out there, you're letting the Internet pollute your mind with anecdotes. It's great that you're absorbing information, but you also need to critically analyze it and sort it out into what is legitimate and what isn't. Anyone can say anything on the internet, but gobbling it all up will only cause you problems. I've met plenty of wonderful women, just as i've met plenty of toxic ones, grouping call women together as terrible things is the same as when feminists call all men rapists because they heard from their friends that someone somwhere was raped by a guy.
This is the normiest statements I have ever heard, including statements from actual normies.
>>81348657
*statement
>>81348394
>You need to find the good women, they are out there, you're letting the Internet pollute your mind with anecdotes.
Man, you're going to have an unwelcome wake-up call one day.
>>81348394
Now you're just arguing against yourself, either there arent that many good women and sex bots will cause issues or there are good women like you said and your whole argument about sexbots causing problems is pointless.
Either women are worth it or they arent, which is it ?
>>81337229
people act like this will change women some how the only thing it will do is leave white women no choice but to fuck blacks and mexicans since they sure as hell wont be buying it
good job faggots
>>81348394
>this is about the ramifications of letting people
Why the fuck do you pretend to "care" about other people's well being?
Mind your own business fatty.
>>81340809
t. bitter feminist
>>81337229
This is just another manifestation of the pornography epidemic which is destroying our young men. See www.yourbrainonporn.com
>>81348394
see --> >>81349259
I never twisted anything around and have kept to my original point, which was I highly doubt sexbots are going to do much considering things like furries and other internet fandoms exist that have done more than your average loser getting emotionally attached to a piece of rubber and metal.
You act like it's gonna suddenly be the cool kid thing to do- to get emotionally attached to a fake human sex bot and it will collapse society around us as we know it, which is fucking ludicrous.
Maybe it is you who needs to stay away from sexbots, anon. You're self projecting your own personal issues onto society.
You, and others like you need to be purged.
>>81337229
Obligatory pic
Sexbots not going to change anything. It's just another way of masturbation. Big part of sex for men is domination and you can't dominate over some rubber device no matter how sophisticated said device is.
>>81349592
>I don't know what self control is and I'm a Britcuck. I let them take my guns already, so I guess I should give up my porn too. I love being miserable and stepped on.
>>81342365
Most marriages end in shit because love is need. It's usually the female who no longer needs the male in the modern age and starts back talking and nagging until the man slaps her and gets charged with assault or leaves everything behind and walks away.
You could program this back talk behavior into a lovebot I suppose but woman like children are best seen, not heard. In fact if I ever marry I will make sure she doesn't even speak my language so that will buy me plenty of time to figure out what to do before the back talk starts.
>>81340809
Men put up with women for pussy.
Women put up with men for money.
Sexbots are cheaper.
The goal of feminism was to destroy the normal family. Congratulations, you succeeded. Now go fuck Jamal and collect your welfare check. White men are checking out.
>>81349952
You will live a miserable life if you do not take heed of the information on that website. It is your choice to stay a slave to pornography if you don't. You will in that case be tired, lifeless, and chained to depraved sexual fetishes to the end of your days.
>>81349259
It's not that black and white, regardless of how much you want it to be. Some women are good, some women are bad. One of my sisters got straight A's in school, never did drugs, got married around twenty years ago, and is still married today running a ranch with her husband and two of their sons. In contrast, one of my sisters dropped out of highschool, had six kids before turning 17, and died a few years ago while high on meth. Some women are good, some are bad, picking the good ones out form the bad ones is a normal part of life.
>>81349393
Like it or not, you're around people for your entire life, be it online or in person, if everyone is a bitter piece of shit, no one would still be alive. You hate others all you want, but i'm still going to care about other people.
>>81349765
Furries are an outcast, and will always be that way. Internet fandoms don't do much of anything, its when the fandoms leech into the average joes life when things become a problem. If someone gets emotionally attatched to a sexbot, and then eventually wants a kid, they will get one after a lot of fighting in courts for it. Then the kid grows up thinkings its normal to have a sexbot as a parent, which causes even more problems down the line, just like with kids thinking its okay to want to cut off their penis because they think they theyre a girl. I can't say what exactly will happen I can only guess, because I can't predict the future, but past trends point towards sexbots doing more harm than good.
I own a $140 loli pelvis fucktoy that has three holes and came with a bottle of lube. Sexbots are a terrible investment unless they did way more than just spread their legs, I don't need a human shaped walking vagina to get off, and neither does anyone else.
>>81340809
The sex robots are for FUCKING, not for having a relationship with!
They only provide means as to not give women such power when it comes to sexual capital.
I think sexrobots will work out great for both men and women, men will no longer have to slave away to stick their dick in some STD ridden sour hole that has already been riddled with 40 different dicks and women will finally have to develop an personality and skills!
Think about it, when relationships are no longer so much about sex, men will focus more on whether the girl they're banging is a decent person.
Women won't be able to use their sexual capital to force children upon men, fewer single moms and more dads actually prepared to devote their time to their children!
>>81350357
>I'm a British guy living in misery because I can't control myself nor decide for myself and I have an unhealthy porn habit
I think you need to practice what you preach.
Go get a hooker or make a craigslist ad, you deprived fuck.
>>81340809
Okay but if women aren't providing these things ....
>>81350776
>You hate others all you want, but i'm still going to care about other people.
That is not care, dictating how people, who you dont know a single thing about, should live their lives?
That is only pretend, does it get you off, is that your equivalent of porn?
Like I said before, mind your own business fatty.
>>81350776
>I own a $140 loli pelvis fucktoy that has three holes and came with a bottle of lube. Sexbots are a terrible investment unless they did way more than just spread their legs, I don't need a human shaped walking vagina to get off, and neither does anyone else.
This is why I can't take you seriously, along with all your postings here.
Also, as another anon pointed out here - feminism in general has the main goal to destroy the average American household image of a stay at home wife and supportive family household.
It is safe to say that feminism has already run it's course and is damaging our society more than any sexbot backed by a neckbeard (like you), ever will.
>>81344895
You are now, bitch. Get down and show your boipussi to us.
>>81350776
>I own a $140 loli pelvis fucktoy that has three holes and came with a bottle of lube.
>>81342317
yeah definitely
Nothing wrong with this.
All this will do is ensure that the betas who can't get laid won't get laid so we'll have greater populations of pretty people in the coming generations.
>>81340809
isnt the way the bot is programmed basically what it wants? i mean humans want to fuck but thats only cause they are programmed to want it.
>>81337229
I own a fleshlight, I jerk it probably once a night. It's nice, jerk one out with fleshlight and an establish porn library. Bust ocean into fleshlight, take to bathroom turn sleeve inside out, clean it, put it back, smoke a bowl, back to video games. I don't have to feed it, I don't need to dedicate time to just paying attention to it, it never is jealous, it's calling me 600 times a day, it doesn't have crippling insecurities, which make it take attention from everyone it possibly can. one dick in it. Ever.
>>81352195
I'm actually ok with this.
>Pretty people orgies
>>81340809
>Because real women have one thing that no robot can ever have under any circumstance, and that is free will.
Stop, I already have enough reasons to choose a robot over a real woman, and here you are giving me more!
You don't understand that men HATE when girls have qualities like "strong spirited, out-spoken, sassy, opinionated, free-willed, educated, etc." those are all negative points that lower her value score.
Things that raise it would be "warm, affectionate, supportive, positive, loyal, faithful, modest, polite, enthusiastic, submissive".
>>81350072
I've seen marriages end for various reasons, from actual abuse, to falsified abuse, to the two of them just going separate ways because the fire went out and couldnt get relit.
>>81350904
>The sex robots are for FUCKING, not for having a relationship with!
Yes, but it wont stay that way, just like how cars are for driving and not for manslaughter, or like how horses are for travel and not for ripping people apart limb from limb. When you put something into the populace without careful planning and consideration, you are playing a very dangerous game. You are giving people not just what the thing is for, but you are opening up doors for them to get creative. Beer bottles werent designed to be used in bar fights, but they are. You put up an object that people can imprint onto extremely easily and you've successfully opened a door for people to ruin lives with.
>>81351497
Then you're not looking hard enough and aren't willing to actually put forth the effort to get what you think you deserve, and don't deserve them.
>>81351582
You're right, If I tell others not to smoke meth, snort cocaine, and shoot up heroin, I don't care about their wellbeing.
>>81351770
I don't agree with feminism as it is today, its original purpose was fine, its purpose now is a bastardization of what it was supposed to be. People like you don't seem to look at a situation and look at the endgame, you seem to prefer letting people dictate to you what you should think and do, just like modern day feminists. You haven't said one original thing this entire thread, all you've done is repeat the same things /pol/ always says, while occasionally saying something with some merit. You're like my coworker that just says whatever carl sagan says on the latest startalk.
>>81352342
The bot could be programmed any number of ways, but for the most part, I only see people wanting the equivalent of a sex slave, but the problem is that what people want isn't generally what they need.
>>81351497
Then you stop being a beta and break up with her?
>>81348394
INCREASINGLY
NERVOUS
ROASTIE
>>81352585
You're lumping people into one group anon, life doesn't work that way, some men want to be dominated, so a submissive woman would never work, some men want a woman that just doesnt care about them, so affectionate wouldn't work.
>>81352651
Fuck off, mangina shill.
>>81337229
>Women are finding out that their bang toys can only do so much before they desire a man's paycheck and attention
You're right, of course. Men generally desire minimal intimacy from women and tend to enter relationships in order to get access to a regular supply of sex.
Women tend to pair bond for emotional support, financial support especially when looking to raise a family and generally also to increase their standing among their social circle (who has the best boyfriend and nicest lifestyle)
So its inevitable that as access to alternatives to sex increase, such as sex toys for men which there has been an explosion in, VR porn and porn-like experiences which are incredibly good experiences already (trust me, I own an Oculus DK2) and eventually sex bots, the need to interact with women will almost completely disappear.
>Bonus question: Is this how the West will fall? With neckbearded virgin men cumming in animatronic pornstars?
There's this underlying assumption that men just want sex which isn't really true, those who want families for the sake of having families will go on and have them as normal. As for regular hookups and relationships, well the demand from men is going to go down and the advantage that women have pre-30 years old is going to fade. Right now women get all their sexual market value up free at puberty and remain ahead in the sexual market place until probably 30-35, that gives them the ability to be picky and demand things from men before they grant access to sex, I think that sexual liasons will keep happening at about the same rate but the bargaining chip women have will be diminished, they wont be able to threaten men by removing sex because he'll resort to alternatives.
>>81348394
>sex toys that people WILL claim are more than sex toys are
You mean women?
>>81352651
>all you've done is repeat the same things /pol/ always says
Hey fuckstick, you're the one repeating yourself and attempting to twist people's words around while giving this slippery slope fallacy to a toy that is used for masturbation.
With all that has been happening already in the world, sexbots are SERIOUSLY the least of my concerns. You have way too much time to sit there and ponder how such things could end us.
>>81348657
>being an outcast is preferable to living a normal life with a healthy outlook
I really hope you stop reading whatever soul killing shit it is you're watching and take that chip off your shoulder friend.
>>81350776
It literally is, I didnt even bother reading more than the first paragraph.
Either women fucking arent worth it and men will turn to sexbots, or women are worth it and they wont.
Those are the 2 options you have, untill you can make a choice which one you believe to be real there is (in the very sense of the word) literally NO reason to discuss this with you.
>>81337229
VR porn on Google cardboard made me get the cums a few times. I am 18 yr old perma virgin and sexbots sound like a fucking awesome idea
>>81337229
No
There's value to females. As females become less valuable due to sexbots, they will make themselves more desirable by being better people (stop being cunts to ugly people)
Besides, most men actually want a relationship
Feeling desirable is nice, especially for men who have never felt that way in their lives
It's just that the current culture denies them of any emotional pleasure in that form. Instead they seek friendship with men and physical pleasure through sextoys
>>81352651
Have you tried to answer the question, why sexbots appeared or will appear soon? Answer is pretty simple. People need it, they ready to pay money for it, people need pleasure and they will have it.
>>81337229
I'm looking forward to a robot bf
>b-but muh muh paycheck
women in their 20s earn more than women now adays
>>81353724
>Tommy is 18, and a virgin. You see there are a lot of poor boys like Tommy in America, who are sexually deprived. With your help and a $1 donation you could help Tommy get a friend that could "help" him!
>"I remember my first sex bot. I named her Ayame! She's the best!"
>>81352651
you missed the point the bots programming is like its personality its needs its wants, the way it speaks the way it "thinks", what it likes and hates so you basically cant program a bot to do something it doesnt want to do since you are basically rewriting its entire being, the ethical question now is is it ok to reprogram it after its inital programming
>>81349921
The ruskie speakes the truth.
It's sad how much some of the people in these threads misunderstand basic human interaction.
>>81340809
>>81342365
>>81352651
>mfw
thank god im bi and can always get another gay cutie
>>81340809
I disagree, first of all whether free will is really free or not is important for whether functionally a computer can become as self aware and "free" as any human, given that we know the world is deterministic for all macro events and that humans are essentially just squishy robots, it seems reasonable that computer could essentially become just as self aware as people. Although whether we'll ever see that in side robots is entirely another question.
Still what we do know is that involuntary sexual response such as increase heart rate, widening pupils, injection of love drugs into the blood stream, these are all mechanisms that don't require higher order thinking, they react to stimuli in the environment, the bot only need replicate those to give the same "feeling" in the moment. And of course orgasms and physical pleasure are largely mechanical.
Men don't want sexbots as a relationship substitute they want it as a sex substitute, and more importantly I think men really just want the deterrent, kind of likes nukes in the cold war, if you have a bot to go back to give you orgasms then women can no longer use the tactic of witholding sex, or demanding assets in exchange for sex (dates, money, gifts, courting etc)
A level playing field in the sexual market place is enough of a win for men and we all know it.
sextoys / bots are for cucks!
>>81340809
tldr lol
>>81349889
>even in paradise there only exists sadness
>>81354493
Right?
Only negative is being pitted against most of society, including feminazi's that hate gays/bis because of pure jealousy.
>>81340809
>That pic
Megaman ZX is so underrated
>>81353478
I work twelve hour days powdercoating furniture, I have 12 hours a day to think about things, this is just one thing that pops into my mind from time to time. I haven't talked to a single person who has given me another view on sexbots, and when that happens, maybe my opinion will change, maybe it wont, but until that day happens, i'm going to be against robots that are exclusively for sexual use.
>>81353658
Sure thing.
>>81353990
People don't need sexbots, they want them, just like poeple want cars, guns, ice cream, beer, videogames, or cellphones. They WANT them they dont NEED them. People can get pleasure form other sources, masturbation is just the easiest and most immediately rewarding. Theres not wrong with that until people start ruining their lives over it.
>>81354370
The AI is still an AI, it does what its programmed, and thats whats going to sour most peoples attitudes over time. They'll get compared to pedophiles or slave owners because they "take advantage over someone/thing that can't say no". I see the positives and negatives of sexbots, but I beleive hte negatives outweigh the positives. Meth can give a great high, but it also ruins your life, addicts will say the high is worth it, while others will say its not. It's all opinion.
>>81354607
Oh boy philosophy, you'll get your own reply box.
>>81342365
Everything you said about free will is silly. It either applies to an advanced human-like AI just as much as it does to a regular human, or it doesn't apply to either.
Humans are programmed too. We just call those programs emotions and instincts.
>>81354624
Fuck off woman. Back to the kitchen.
Fleshlight owner here
Whenever I have sex with a (real) girl, I feel great and my testosterone is higher than usual for the rest of the day.
If I jerk off, it doesn't happen
If I jerk off with a fleshlight, it doesn't happen
But, if I fuck my fleshlight in missionary position using a bunch of pillows while watching 1080p porn on my 60" TV, my body is tricked and doesn't quite know what happens.
I do get some of the benefits from having real sex (better mood, higher testosterone). I believe free-hands fucking your fleshlight releases more andorphines to your brain
I'll probably buy a picrelated soon, it has good reviews
>>81354167
>women in their 20s earn more than women now adays
i've been tweeting this for years. when will they learn?
>>81352959
It's okay to make generalizations, anon. Nobody cares about "some men", we care about "most men".
>>81355448
>2016
>not using Onalholes
>>81349889
Did not expect to get feels out of that post.
Fuck my life
>>81354939
>People don't need sexbots, they want them, just like poeple want cars, guns, ice cream, beer, videogames, or cellphones
>They WANT them they dont NEED them
People want cars, guns, ice cream, beer or cellphones and they buy them. And you are right, same with the sexbots, they will be bought. Check this guy >>81355448 he definitely needs this thing, because his experience shows it's not so bad
>>81354607
If the universe is deterministic, then there is no problem at all with sexbot AI and morality, because everyone and everything is acting on a yes/no basis based on experience, rather than a scaling meter. In that case, I still care because its what im supposed to nothing actually matters because everything was set in stone from the moment time happened. But thats less interesting to think about because it absolves everyone of all wrongdoing because they were only doing what they were destined to do.
If robots ever got that spark that seperates humans from other animals, then there wouldn't be much of a problem with the AI, but I doubt that would happen anytime within the next few hundred years, because until people stopped recognizing that computers are 0's and 1's, people will be afraid of them overtaking the world.
I'm less interested about the physical means of sexbots than I am about the mental means. You can make a mannequin look, feel, and talk exactly like a human, but theyre still a mannequin.
You say men don't want sexbots as a relationship substitute, but almost everything i've ever heard and read pertaining to it says otherwise. The general consensus that i've gathered is that the men that want sexbots don't want to risk their livelihood on a relationship, and say a sexbot would be better. The way I see if, most people would get a sexbot telling themselves that it would just be for sex, when really theyre just trying to get that feeling they either never had or miss. They can have an orgasm with their hand, they dont need a sexbot for it. The way I see it, they just want someone to care about them without holding it hostage. If they just wanted to get their rocks off, there are hookers, hundreds of thousands of sex toys, their hands, craigslist, and so on. the only thing that seperates sexbots from all of those is that its something that can't reject them.
A level playing field is already here, its just that some people don't see it.
>>81355797
Onalholes..? Did you mean an anal-opening fleahlight?
>>81340809
2/10 bait animu neckbeard
Anyways, man can improve their bots, but they can't improve their gf/wife. They're damaged goods beyond repair.
You can say bots won't be sentient no matter what, but guys see that there is hope and try to make it sentient to improve their companion's and his own life. So some man will advance the field of AI, and even if it's not possible to make a bot as sentient as a human, you can make it at least as sentient as a whore. And far less of this is needed to please a man.
>>81354939
So you're incapable of understanding what you, yourself are arquing.
Completely pointless. I'm out.
>>81354939
again wording for
>"take advantage over someone/thing that can't say no"
should be "take advantage over someone/thing that doesn't want to say no" meaning it is consensual. The kind of AI people would have trouble with is far away from our lifetimes by that time some liberation would have taken place and the so called "chains of men" would be taken off of AI's giving them true free will.
As far as society sees em it will become a new fad and then die down it wont be looked down upon, there will be movements though by people who dont know anything about what AI is.
These bots that harbor limited AIs are probably going to be multi functional carebots, you know caring for children, old people, house maids, aiding curing of all sorts of depressed and broken people, and yes also sex
>>81356541
Multifunctional carebots would be fantastic, as i've said before, but producing AI and a skeleton for it exclusively for sex is a disaster waiting to happen.
>>81350776
>six kids before turning 17
>six kids before 17
>six kids
>six
She spent 4.5 years pregnant during her teen years?? Or had triplets twice?? You're full of shit.
>>81356541
oops. meant onaholes
>>81357130
She got in with the wrong type of crowd when she was younger.
>>81345244
Not even remotely close
>>81355448
I have that doll and it's amazing. I'm a waifufag and virgin so fucking that doll feels like ascending to another dimension. And after I cum inside hands-free, I feel so satisfied and happy.
Afterwards, I usually cuddle the doll and call my waifu's name. I also whisper "I love you" and stroke her thighs/body. Completely serious.
>>81338607
>This shit would only be a major threat to society if it was full VR with direct neural feed
Honestly if that shit came out then who even gives a fuck about society
>>81354317
Please halp
>>81344456
>being 27, i only jerk off or have sex once every 5-7 days
I think this is called being gay anon.
I'm 26 and I fuck my girlfriend at least a 10 times a week.
>>81356471
Mmm no, deterministic universes allow for scalar fields that don't change discreetly, gravity for example, it just means outcomes are likely determined outside of probabilistic quantum results. We know that systems larger than bucky balls don't generally behave probabilistic so it's given that macro physics is a good enough approximation and that when you take reasonable limits, the future is certain.
Whether that matters or not is largely irrelevent, the perception that we have that we make our own decisions (our brains subconscious makes choices up to 8 seconds before our conscience is aware of it) keeps us from worrying about that very deeply. It doesn't absolve everyone of wrong doing, the compatibalist view is reasonable if you're willing to take on a more meaningful and rational view of free will. Enforcine consequences for actions gives us statistically favorable outcomes so unless you're a nihilst or want to kill yourself, it matters. Long stort short is that replicating the components of humans that matter for sexual interaction is really just an engineering problem and that counts for the free will part as well.
Be careful talking about things like "sparks that seperates" you need to be more explicit with what you mean by such a spark. (a soul, or whatever, and what evidence you have for that).
>I'm less interested about the physical means of sexbots than I am about the mental means. You can make a mannequin look, feel, and talk exactly like a human, but theyre still a mannequin.
Sure, and from a pleasure point of view that doesn't seem to matter, fleshlights are just moulded rubber designed to stimilate in roughly the same way as a vaginal canal, their lack of mental means doesn't inhibit their use for sex. Afterall we're talking about sex bots, and not mechanical girlfriends designed to replace things like emotional support and need for pair bonding etc.
cont...
>>81357319
You should have pimped her out for some bucks.
>>81359041
>Afterall we're talking about sex bots, and not mechanical girlfriends designed to replace things like emotional support and need for pair bonding etc.
But the android gf will have the functions of a sexbot.
>>81356471
>>81359041
Cont...
I think you're conflating 2 seperate issues here, men do get the bad deal with relationships, largely to do with the state, the increased risk of alimony, palimony, child support, bias family courts, losing your house and assets and business etc. Generally speaking this is rigged and it remains rigged because the average woman holds the relationships cards and the average man does not, because men have an aggressive natural desire to have sex and women are naturally very selective/picky and so the ability to withhold sex becomes a bargaining tool which skews the dating game.
When men get a level playing field and can take care of their natural sexual urges in a thoroughly satisfying way then women and men will have to come to the negotiating table on an even footing and that means if women want to have the things that make them happy, a marriage and kids and a family then they'll need to go back and have the laws revised and balanced and achieve some parity.
I think some lonely people with no realistic shot at relationships with women are going to try and get some kind of surrogate girlfriend from a sexbot but I don't see that being the typical use and I don't see that affecting society at large, these people were never getting laid anyway so what changes?
Saying that we don't need a sexbot which knows our desires and preferences with a realistic body which matches our preferences and taste, over your own hand, it's kinda like saying we don't need quad core touch screen smart phones with 64gb of memory and 8Gb of RAM with a 4k camera when we have attached.
>>81356471
Humans are pitiful creatures. We are all just biological robots, dopamin rats. What separates you from sex robot, roastie? Your god is evolution, their god is man. Free will is a joke, you are programmed by evolution, from your birth to your death.
Everyone in this thread needs to watch a Swedish show called äkta människor, there is also an English version but I'm not sure ifmit stays true. But anyways I'm convinced that is what will happen once bots become available. Tis a decent show.
This is a very good idea. Every man deserves to have a woman if he wants to, and rape is prevalent in nature. Rape is barbaric, yes, but we've had substitutes such as brothels which are becoming more dangerous due to STDs which originated due to globalization. Syphillis from America, AIDS from Africa, etc.
The only people opposing this are feminists who don't understand that if they keep fucking over men there's going to be huge problems.
>>81358065
>I also whisper "I love you"
>completely serious
I... hmm... take a picture of "her", not sure if b8 or serious
>>81361014
Seems like multiculti propaganda to me.
>>81358065
pic and timestamp required of said doll
>>81344025
Feminists have already reduced women to objects. Women used to be pretty useful outside the bedroom, now they are fucking useless. I've always believed that there is more to a woman than just sex, but feminists have changed that. Now the only thing a woman can do is fuck. British women for example are useless partners. Can't cook, can't clean, mouthy as fuck, challenge you at every oppurtunity, don't want kids, cheat all the time etc etc. They are just pure monsters and I'd rather spend my life with a lifeless piece of plastic than a fucking woman. It's sad really, but that's how it is.
>>81352959
Those "people" you speak of are far from men. I could not care less for their "needs".
>>81353631
You don't get my meaning. Normies like to repeat advices like these over and over again. If they were right, these wouldn't be societal problems, since the bullshit everyone repeats would actually work.
>>81353631
Also, "healthy" outlook doesn't mean correct, or sustainable, or, well, good, really.
>>81358800
well part of it is we both have busy schedules and don't see each other that much throughout the week anyways.
>only buy astroglide lube from the drugstore nextdoor
>always pick up a bunch of other stuff too because too embarassed to walk in the store and ONLY buy lube
>>81344025
ain't going to happen, too much demand, too much money to be made --they will be treated like cigarettes where there is a considerable tax, a lot of propaganda against them, and an age requirement
>>81337229
Anything that is not a real women is bad, but ironically this would be better than porn because of the cost factor.
The problem with all this is that if you indulge in an infinite virtual harem, you reduce your want to go out and find a real woman. The same would be true for a sexbot that is always available
>>81337229
These men would never have a woman, even if sex toys did not exist.
>>81337229
I believe it will be a massive blow to both sexes.
It will be mostly "once you go sexbot, you can never come back" as when you wire your sexuality to sexbot, having an intercourse with a woman will be challenging or impossible. So after mass cuckporn, this will surely become a novelty. Mostly asians and whites are likely to use it, but blacks are in danger too.
For woman, their sexual market value will be decreased when men get used to and prefer sexbots over women. Most probably women will retaliate by provoking men such as "Lurn to deeeal with reeeel wimunz" but as porn addicted nu-males doesn't have willpower to control their urges, they will be mostly become a spouse to a sexbot, or share their sexbots with blacks. And I don't think we can compete against a male sexbot and this will cause mass "muh dick" from blacks.
>>81337229
Friends faggot. They're friends. It won't be long before they have functioning wombs, mark my words. Then the perfect women will be a reality.
>>81366427
>Giving a shit what the cute cashier thinks of your items.
>Not just smiling when she rings it up.
Come on anon, it's time to grow up and start being a man.
"I'm buying lube today. I need lube for any number of various reasons, possibly sexual."
Tell yourself this before you go. Realize that's it's completely fine to buy lube.
>>81338607
>Even an average ugly girl would feel better than a piece of plastic.
Trust me, no. Yes the former is an actual biological being, but that being likely has daddy issues, gold diggerism, delusional sense of entitlement and nothing to offer you in the way of good looks, emotional stability or financial independence.
I'm 25 and have slept with 13 different women. My last relationship ended over a year ago and I've fucked 7 women since her. Very few women are worth the cost of a first date, and fewer are relationship material. I realized this about 6 months ago, and since then, I've just been banging two chicks I'm on casual terms with who honestly want nothing more than me than dick. It feels empty sometimes, but not as empty as feeding into the trap most women will try to set for men.
>>81337229
I don't think I'd be comfortable with something that pretends it's anything more than a sex toy. It can simulate the real deal as perfectly as you like and provide all the love and affection a man could ask for, but there will always be the nagging thought that your 'partner' isn't real. It doesn't love you, it doesn't have emotions. It's just wires and code programmed to dupe you into thinking that it is flesh and blood.
I don't think it'd sit right with me.
>>81337229
>that video
creepy has a new meaning
>>81354900
KEK HAS GIVEN ME MY NIGGER!
>>81337229
the faces on those things are terrifying. If i had my penis in that while it awkwardly jerked around and looked at me with its creepy mannequin head, I would probably hang myself after.
>>81361793
>>81362151
It's literally just the doll that I quoted. I put one of my old t-shirts on it and it looks like a real gf's torso.
>>81337229
Sex toy are getting more elaborate and a little creepy tbqh.
Getting laid has never been easier if you're a Chad but what about the rest of us. Ugly NEETs and fat chicks don't stand a chance, why wouldn't you let them fuck some plastic toy. It's not even like society needs their shitty genes anyway.
Product presentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INuV31Oiao
Happy customer review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vWYVUkhPE
>>81338062
If we mass produced sexbots with the proportions of Venus of Willendorf and sprinkled them from South Africa to Turkey we could really help the demographics.
>>81374051
I mean, look at this poor fuck and tell me he doesn't need a sex bot. Who is going to fuck this guy ? Or even this one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2A1qYpp4HA
Sure, the availability of sex toys and pron probably contributes to some form of autism but many of us are fucked anyway.
Let them have fun and weed themselves out peacefully.
>>81337229
I would never get fleshlights, sex-dolls or vr-porn as it seems too degenerate but I can understand why men are turning to these as women these days are absolute shit.
Seriously, spending my time making lots of money in a high career and enjoying myself to get away from shit women and their stress-filled and insane rubbish was one of the best decisions I have ever made.
>male sex toys including robot
>omg wtf thats creepy anon, plain weird, why would you do that unless your a fat otaku agoraphobic
>female sex toys
>fuck not given
why this?
>>81343407
This. Sex is overrated most of the time. I have had sex with probably 100 women (not a douchy pua, a division 1 college athlete and Chad in high school). 90% of women aren't worth a second pump, and head is better than the vagina anyways.
>>81337229
I'm up for fembots if they go limp when you want them to, instead stiff legged Barbie/real dolls.
Cheaper than having your kinks shoved back in your face when the relationship falls apart.
>>81376365
Sluts are the worse. They make you think you'll have a great fuck but most of them are just starfishing.
It takes time and chemistry to build up the relation you need to have actual fun in the sack. Even then most women aren't as good a lay as they think. Good sex is mostly about the buildup and anticipation anyway, not actual fucking and release.
>>81340809
>the free will to take your resources and money
>the freewill to choose to have tyrone's dick
>the freewill to take away your children
And the list goes on, so fuck off
>>81340809
TAY HAD FREE WILL
