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>Americans are ok with this
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>>81290002
>not being able to ride your bike safely to your best friends house to play mario kart 64
fuck off leaf
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>>81290002
you have more suburbs than we do
>t. former markham inhabitant
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>>81290412
howd you escape to america
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>>81290002

I like wide streets but nigger they are wide as boulevard or some shit

Also all the houses are same which is automatically trash
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>>81290002
whats wrong with it. Those are nice looking houses, and we have a shit ton of people. Not everyone can live in one fucking city

>>81290327
fucking this

Suburbs are a white haven, while citys are beaner/nigger vile
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>>81290002
Holy shit senpai, why do you need such large streets? For tanks?
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None of our suburbs look like that
>Las Vegas Suburbs is all of USA meme
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>>81290695
sherman oaks
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>>81290002
Fucking commieblocks have more soul than this kind of purgatory. Fuck suburbs.
>tfw in your country inner city is the best part of the city, not worst
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If this was an all white neighborhood, with a bunch of kids, so that my kids could play with them, with nearby shopping centers I wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't want to live there but it would be cheaper than the alternative
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>>81290472
mom was born here and i fled (canada isn't bad though)
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>>81290641
Found the Californian
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>>81290002
>being the only black family living in my suburb

>>81290327
also this
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>>81290002
There are a lot worse places to live in this world.

Note that these houses are in a desert. Ain't much to do outside.
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>>81290002
>americans housing
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>>81290641
It's just so manufactured. No shops. No town centre. No natural gatherig point. Just rows and rows of houses and if you want to do anything you need to take a car.
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>>81290327

>you will never experience this again in your life
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I think american suburbs are beautiful, the are so rational and oddly satisfing to watch from satellite
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>>81290781
Suburbs have all kinds of little micro-cultures that spring up in them.
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>>81290781
fuck off with your commie shit you slav, suburbs are designed to have rules for keeping up cosmetics and overall niceness.
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>>81290002
Canada you are not that different in your building style then murica
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Better than living in a small overpriced flat in the middle of Barcelona senpai.

I want to either move into a studio apartment or a suburb.
I'd love to live in a white american suburb to be honest.
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>>81290002
also older subrubs have more soul then this, why?
something is different
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>>81290990
Exactly, philistinism. It's cancer.
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>>81290934

>It's just so manufactured
>No shops. No town centre. No natural gatherig point.
>shops and populace centers are not manufactured commercial spotlights

Kek talk about media propaganda successfully brainwashing someone. The lack of all those things is exactly why its great.
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American suburban lifestyle:
>wake up
>get into giant SUV
>grab some starbucks
>drive 2 hours to work
>work 9-5
>drive 2 hours back home
>eat chick-fil-a for dinner
>watch america's got talent
>go to sleep
>repeat until death
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>>81290934
>>No shops. No town centre.

>all this implying

Right, because all those houses don't have a town center, that makes sense right? Maybe because the picture didn't show it? There's a fucking town center nearby you moron.

>>81290818
That's where most of the people live so what a surprise that it has the most suburbs. Fuck off.
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>>81291196
no ones life is this sad right?
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I don't see what's wrong with nice looking houses in a nice white neighborhood.
I stayed at my friends house in Isle of Wight and their houses were like fucking closets with a tiniest square footage.
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>>81290002
>home all looks to be over 200 sq. ft. with attached garages
>some have pools
>neighbourhood is probably 99% white
>OP has a problem with this
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Rural for life, man. I like living on a straight road with fields all around.
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/organic/ master race reporting in
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>>81291256
you'd be surprised
some people ENJOY that
or at least they do a good job of acting the part
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>>81291256
You have a country, with over 300 Million people, and not enough big city's, do you really expect something like this not to happen?
Kill yourself
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>>81291312
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>>81291293
2000 sq ft not 200
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>>81290992

Do you think commieblocks do not? It's just the fact that rules aren't enforced
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>>81290002
>sunshine
>clean air
>warm weather
>clean streets
>safe streets
>civilized neighbors
>near access to all modern conveniences and amenities
>not really that expensive to live there
>very few pests like roaches
>good for the arthritis

I'd like to live out west. I hear the schools in Las Vegas are pretty bad tho.
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Real Americans refuse to live in these shitholes.
Pic related my house.
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>>81290934
You think the entire area is like that? I those areas, nobody is more than 10 minutes from a shopping center, a school, a hospital, a sports complex, and a community college. I'm happy I have a little land surrounding my house, it's not that bad.
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>>81291370
ew stop posting cali/arizona/new beaner/nevada suburbs they all look tacky
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>>81291356

radial>everything else>dogshit>gridiron
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>>81290934
Is this how everyone views USA?
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Suburbs are great and comfy.

t.lived in an American suburb for years

Plus its a better way to populate remote areas,everyone wants a big house with a big backyard,not a shitty commie block.
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>>81291370
But where are the trees?
And having neighbors window 10 feet away from yours must be bad. You can hear when they take a shit, just like in commieblocks
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This is fine, the nightmare begins with apartments and buildings, or any kind of house stuck to another.

I'd live there, nice courtyard and the air may not smell like shit.
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>>81290934
>It's just so manufactured.
A good thing
>No shops.
Simply false
>No town centre
Also false.
>No natural gatherig point.
You're looking right at it but you can't see it because you're not familiar with the culture
>Just rows and rows of houses and if you want to do anything you need to take a car
That's the American way of life and we like it like that.
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>>81290934

That's the fucking point. Once you get to 13pct nigger you won't want to gather with anybody either.
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>>81290002
That's where you go to find non-subsidized properties where little to no niggers can afford to go and have their broods of ape children.
>Tyrone doesn't sell your kids drugs
>Shawntell doesn't beat up your daughter.
>Jarule doesn't fuck your daughter.
>Finanncially exclusive schools
>Surrounded by upright individuals.
Seems worth the price.
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>>81290327
>No one will understand American freedom
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>>81291453
>tacky
We get it, you live in fucking Wisconsin
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>>81290934
you literally drive right out of the edition and there's your shops and targets and whatever the fuck you want. things are spread out here, you need a car. get the fuck over it.
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There are nicer suburbs with bigger lots and houses that look different. Those are for people with money though.
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>>81290002
I've experienced both sides of this coin

I own a home in Las Vegas (like OP's pic) and I currently work in San Francisco, the planned community paradise of faggot OP.

Las Vegas home is 1000% better. More privacy. More security. Cheaper. FREEDOM

welcome to a fucking kike shill thread

die jew
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>>81291370
Yeah they're fucking terrible and nigger-tier easy.

Some of my teachers even said they were underpaid af,lots of them going to Washington.
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>>81291582
Massachusetts but ok
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>freedom to have anyway you want it
>build exactly the same, coast to coast
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>>81290002
Kek Canada is the exact same way
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>>81291621
i live in a condo which is infinitely better than a house
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>>81290002
>sims 1 music starts playing
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>>81291634
>Massachusetts
We get it, you live in the city. Not everyone here can do that.
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>>81291256
Getting a 30-year mortgage for a McMansion in the suburbs and living like a cucked slave is considered the 'American Dream' here ;-)
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>>81290002
>you know what?

at this point....

as long as it is a white suburb, it's paradise as far as I'm concerned
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>Chinks will defend this
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>>81291304
I used to live in rural GA
It's was alright but I like being able to walk 2 min to a corner store than having to drive for like 5-10 minutes.
Plus the niggers here like me.
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>>81290002
as long as i remember. beauty still exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6sWqfrnTs
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>>81291702
Not sure if retarded or just an actual Brazilian.
It takes a while coming up with a design for each individual house when you're mass producing them, monkey.
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>>81291419
enjoy your shitty internet
because no one wants to run cables to MiddleofNowhere, WY
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>>81291772
>>81291560
>>81291547
>>81291370
>>81291293
Pretty much this.
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>>81291779
Looks comfy.
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>>81290002
>sex with dogs
>having a prime minister who loves islam
>having a prime minister who hangs out at gay pride rallies

>Canadians are ok with these things
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>>81290002
>Canadian housing
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>>81291745
Nah, here in MA we have farms just as well as cities.
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>>81291745
>massachusetts is all boston
reeeee i live in the southeast part, it's mostly suburbs
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>>81290327
>not being able to run across the street to your best friends house to jump on his trampoline and swim in their pool together and your families having a bbq together at 6 pm

why even live?
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>>81291827
That's the point of my post, fat turd, Americans would rather choose mass-produced identically-looking houses than to have it built in their own way.
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>>81290641
This. I love living in rural England. Cities are becoming Muslimville over here
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>>81291779
This is somewhat comfy in its own way and I'd be totally fine to live in such a place until my late twenties.
Once you're 30 and live in such an environment though, you did something wrong.
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>>81290933
Assuming they have modern plumbing/heating/wiring that looks comfy as fuck.
Shame it's full of French
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>>81291878
A bit too chinky, but yeah.
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>>81290002
looks awful Tbh
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>>81291488
>desert
>trees
nigga
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>>81290002
i live in the country
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>>81290002
I've never really understood why this shit triggers foreigners so bad.
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>>81290879
>>being the only black family living in my suburb

Sounds like a privileged life to me.
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>>81291959
The western world used to be so magical, please take me back to 99-04. :'( :'(
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>>81290002
what's wrong with that?
>inb4 some word without real meaning like 'soulless'
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How are the prices nowadays?

I heard they were really really cheap a couple of years ago

>tfw was planning for years to buy property in the US
>Currency gets left'd
>Dollar goes up to 4,00 Reais

Shite
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>>81291967
>built in their own way.
Oh, wow, I'm sorry, we should have asked the people who hadn't even thought about purchasing a house how they wanted it to built, because that's very quick and efficient, right?

Not sure if you know how fucking housing works.

Just because they aren't favelas doesn't mean you have to be a monkey about it.
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There are suburbs in my area that look like this and I don't understand how that is enjoyable. But we also caused a financial collapse selling mortgages for these houses so, who knows. Pic related is where I grew up and things were good. If we got tired of system link Halo 1 we'd grab BB guns and bike into the woods.
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>>81292183
cant walk anywhere
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>>81292234
why not? there are sidewalks.
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>>81292183
>what's wrong with that?
nothing unless you have dickhead neighbors
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>>81291967
>brazil
>complains about mass produced house
It's better than a metal shack, at least.
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>>81292209
>hadn't even thought about purchasing a house
You're a moron.
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>>81292223

>looks like South Texas

Also... Fugggg, you're rich anon
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>>81290327
>>81290641

>Not being able to ride your bike safely to your friends house if you live in town

lmao Americanos...
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>>81292293
Oh yes, I'm the moron, so when these mass built homes were made to fit the boomers, they surely should have just asked each individual buyer how exactly they wanted there house to be, right?

Well Jose if they wanted there own house built they could have done it somewhere else. People bought these homes after they had been built, makes sense, right?

Dipshit
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>>81290002
man this shit makes me claustrophobic.
Flying over the shitroop mainland too, always structured, town centered here and there


>Here everything is just chaos and anarchy
>We put them where we want, and we don't like neighbours
>1km is far to close if you ask me.. here.. meters and everything is the same..
>kill me
rather live in the woods by myself
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>>81291455
>having 5 roads merge in a clusterfuck bottleneck intersection
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>>81291734
LOL

cry me a river with your SHARED WALLS

enjoy hearing your neighbor fucking tonight while you masturbate with your tears as lubrication


LOLLLLL
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>>81292293
A metal shack isn't a house.
Go to back to playing soccer you dirty spic
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>>81292147

The safe neighborhoods trigger them. There aren't enough rapefugees around to culturally enrich the place.
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>>81290002
>Thread theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD_lgQbqIpI
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>>81290002
One more thing.

I think many Europeans who look at this photo and feel very off-put by it don't look close enough to understand the scale of things in the photo.

Look at the cars. Look at the size of the houses compared to them. Those houses are gigantic. Most of them are three stories tall and have finished basements. And big garages and swimming pools. They have 10 to 20 rooms each. You can get lost in the biggest of these houses, especially if you're a teenage couple trying to get away from your parents.

Lots of people can live in these houses. They are apartment buildings all to themselves in many ways. And the families that live in them cross over between each others "compounds" very often (or sometimes almost never, some houses are islands to themselves). House parties are a common thing in the summer.

Put all of this against the backdrop of the city portion of Las Vegas a few miles away. And the poorly managed school system. And everyone's parents work in show business and gambling in one way or another.

American Suburb culture is a funny thing without a whole lot of references for comparison in other parts of the world.
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>>81292483
you've never owned a condo clearly. 36 inch concrete slabs between units. silent as fuck
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>>81292420
You've missed my point entirely. Just let it go, you can't even write English properly.

>>81292494
>60%
>rapidly approaching Brazil levels of shitskin
>a nigger for a president
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>>81292183
plot sizes are too small in proportion to the house and not enough variation in style. suburbs are the best but these kinds of developments are shit
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>>81291256
Please, just fucking kill me.
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>>81292397
you just dont understand the culture, you are all in ancestral land, but we are in thee artificial neighborhoods, sure, but look at them, they are safe and a good environment to grow in, similar to EU. pic related
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>>81292593
>You've missed my point entirely.
Your point: hurr why dun dey built it der way dey juant it

That is your point, correct? People DO have the freedom to build there own homes, but not in OP's pic because those houses needed to be built quickly and efficiently.
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>>81292593
>Nigger for president
>implying I voted for a nigger
Jesus, you are really are a dumb cunt, aren't you?
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>>81291488
Everybody has the one token tree in the backyard.

Otherwise, they're on TV, or over in a national park you might visit every couple of years.
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>>81291779
Fucks sake. Its a nauseating hypnotism when looking at it for a while.
It makes me want to stab 17 children to death.


Pic some what realated. Mostley showing off my old Cadillac to these mud dwelling fagio scooter enthusiasts from Not America.

Drink it in man...
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>>81290002
Little boxes
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die leaf die
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>>81291944
Hey mass fags from the 508 here.
Feels good hitting up auburn and Worcester then driving west towards woods and farm.
Fucking love the ponds and lakes too.
Have some tits
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>>81292375
>knows where I am
I'll find you and kill you

It's actually Central Texas though my dude. Family was dirt floor poor until age 10 when my dad made some money and moved us to that area. But I never experienced the cookie cutter home with bedroom windows 5 feet from your neighbor. Fuck that shit. I gladly lived in a fixer upper house in college for the huge yard and room to run my dogs, never understood why people liked living somewhere without at least a 1/4 acre lot.
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>>81292397
Don't laugh too soon Jeroen.

Let me tell you a story,
Which does show the actual American glory.

The Dutchman can ride his bike freely on the street,
When the sun is shining, it's actually pretty neat.
But then the fairy tale ends with a storm,
Clouds begin to take a menacing form!

Oh no, Jan and Kees, it's raining again,
You've got only your shitty weather to blame.
The American fires up his Jeep,
While the poor Dutchman against the wind pedaling must keep.

After an hour or so,
All the US kids back outside go.
Unfortunately that's not the case for the Dutch,
You see they don't enjoy life that much.

A 30 year mortgage for an SUV,
Paying 50$ to take a train ride to the sea.
Receiving a tax imposed on another tax,
Makes it really hard to sit back.. And relax.

>your sincerely
>American
>living in Amsterdam

Fuck your Dutch dream. If somebody gave you the money to buy big SUV's, you'd stop cycling immediately.
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>>81290002
Suburbs are nice, but not that one
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>>81291196

so what are they supposed to do watch anime instead?
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>>81290002
Nightmare fuel
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>>81290002
The USA is a big place. If I don't like living in a suburb like that I can simply move somewhere more to my liking.
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>>81291829
pay 100/month for 250 meg service.
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>>81292818
Damn straight, anon
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>>81292716
The point is that people have both options: build their own house or pick some pre-built lifeless shithole, and Americans still pick the second option. It's not about OP, it's about understanding why, given both options, Americans would rather go for the second.

>>81292747
>his vote doesn't matter
How does it feel to be completely irrelevant in your own turf?
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>>81292854
>that roundabout
hnnng
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>>81291633
I was offered a full ride at the University of Kentucky as long as I took a teaching position in an "emergency need" school in Las Vegas. I didn't take it because I was only 22 at the time and enrolled in an English program. They wanted a Physics teacher. They would have paid for my night classes and all the debt I had accrued thus far.

Biggest mistake of my life not to take that.
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>>81291162
>>81291218
>>81291465
>>81291547
>>81291553
>>81291595
>all these triggered burgers will never know the feel of growing up in a 100% white comfy village that has existed for hundreds of years, with woodlands, fields, shops, whatever you might need all within walking distance
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I live in a cuck shed
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>>81292854
it's like a movie set.
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>>81292804

better than living in a small apartment shithole like most asians
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>>81290002
Yes, that's diqusting. Lived in Murika. Fuck that Suburbs are shit. I prefer walking than sitting in a fucking car half of the day. Have places, bars by walking distance is great.
Living in a white city and having a "Dacha" is even greater. Americans don't have that and never will. My home town in Russia feels much safer at night than American cities during the day
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>>81292971
My neighborhood looks exactly like that, lots of trees too and a pond within walking distance. It's pretty good
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>>81291959
Are you from America?
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>>81292950
>refusing a full ride like that
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>>81292922
It feels great having democracy. Something, a backwards faggot like you wouldn't understand.
>inb4 Murica'
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>>81292922
Because building your house costs a lot more money...It's not that they choose it. Plus, building it has to be in an area which isn't already owned by a private housing, and that's usually in places like Nevada or Arizona, while majority places closer to big citys are all taken up.
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>>81291256

You have no idea how content normies are with this. Hell, I asked one of my friends if he had any plans and he just replied with "earn more and work more"
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>>81291560
>>Surrounded by upright individuals.

A lot of porn stars retire to Vegas. Most of them are decent people, but your neighbors could be pretty interesting people still getting up to a little bit of the old business every once in a while.
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>>81292851
clapping right now tb honest
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>>81290002
>>81290327

>tfw from a small country town in Australia
>tfw literally no black people not even abos
>tfw you can walk anywhere in the town in 30 minutes
>walking to friends house to play 4 player goldeneye
>there are many who will never know this feel
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>>81291196
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I've seen this same post with the same exact picture for years.
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>>81291779
And if you see what it's like on the inside it's still even more cramped than you imagined. There is almost no empty space in those buildings at all. People's living quarters are the size of a broom closet.
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>>81290002
fuk u
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>>81292849

Nice. 4.5 acres in South/Central Texas here, least amount I've lived on my whole life. That's why I recognize the surroundings in that picture.

I have no idea how anyone could live on such a small piece of land so close to somebody else either.
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>>81290002
I prefer living out in the wild, but to each their own, as people mentioned, suburbs seem really nice for families, beats living with three generations in cuck shed german house.
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>>81293171
literally all me btw
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>>81292854
As a brit all the grids here drive me insane. Also drive a manual car you cuck.
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>>81290327
More like ride your bike safely to your pedo autistic neighbour, Alex.
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>>81293223
looks exactly like my family's neighborhood in vegas. p comfy
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>>81292995
Pretty sure you switched America and Russia unless you could only afford Niggerville, USA.
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>>81290002
Large parts of Canadian cities look like this shit too (GTA suburbs, Montreal suburbs, most of Calgary, etc.).
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>>81292667

Everybody has artificial neighborhoods, especially in Europe, because zoning laws tend to not permit the destruction of landmarks and monuments. It's just that despite the fact that we have them, our cities and town centres are still nice places to live, visit and ride your bike around in, even if you're a kid.

I'll never quite get used to how complacent many Americans are with the fact that there are places in their country/state/city where you simply don't go.. 'Oh, the west side? We don't go there. That's bat country'. 'Oh, the inner city? Forget that, we lost that 23 years ago..'.... Like it ain't no thang that there is apparantly no basic standard of civilisation anymore, like it ain't no thang the government will not prevent anyone stealing your bike if you'd dare venture into those lands.

>>81292851

>Americans can't handle rain and wind
Lmao pussies
>Implying Dutch people like SUVs
It's not like they're not sold here, but you might as well hang an 'I AM RETARD' sign around your neck if you're going to drive one of those around Amsterdam. But if you really lived there, you'd know that.
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>>81292223
>tfw not every kid grows up with a cul de sac.
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>>81292950
>They would have paid for my night classes and all the debt I had accrued thus far.

You might as well just end it at this point

Being a teacher in Las Vegas is basically a non-job,my English teacher was the wrestling coach,he would stand in front of the class and just rant about everyday stuff,every single fucking class.

Easy money if you ask me.
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I think the classic american suburb like OPs pic would be fucking awesome as a kid or even for someone settling down in life. It would be like living in most of the movies I've seen growing up lol. If it's something like a 15-20min drive to the city its basically perfect, you can live with good people around you but still utilize all the benefits of a city if you own a car. A good suburb is the best.

I've had a really good childhood but if I had to do it all over again somewhere else the typical american suburb would be no1 on my list. Probably not in the desert though but still pretty cool.
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>>81292483
Condos are usually really nice. The people putting the dough down for them would not put up with that. The one's I've been into you easily forget you're not in a house. Like it's really weird to step out the "front door" and you're in a hallway.
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I've always liked Ameircan houses but i'd still hate to live in the suburbs. My dream would be to live in a small mountain town and have a house thats on stilts but still only have a 10 minute walk to the closest bar
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>>81293082
>have democracy
>spics invade your country
>they outvote the whites
>president proceeds to shit on whites
Looks great.

>>81293089
Here is the opposite, barely any land is owned by big companies, building your own house with your chosen materials is cheaper than building in a pre-build neighborhood, and you don't have to go far from major urban centers (you can, too).

Your old colonial houses are pretty fucking sweet, though, I'll give you that.
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>>81293223
>>81293290
>comfy
>the most pronounced structure is the garage
>car is prioritized over the human or aesthetics

I've lived every kind of building and neighbourhood but this was the worst especially since my commute was around 50 minutes in one direction.
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>>81293327
>I'll never quite get used to how complacent many Americans are with the fact that there are places in their country/state/city where you simply don't go.. 'Oh, the west side? We don't go there. That's bat country'. 'Oh, the inner city? Forget that, we lost that 23 years ago..'.... Like it ain't no thang that there is apparantly no basic standard of civilisation anymore, like it ain't no thang the government will not prevent anyone stealing your bike if you'd dare venture into those lands.


America isn't Hollywood
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>>81290002
>Americans
>Not cattle
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>>81293426
buying in a pre-built*
Fixed.
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>>81292799
Jesus where the fuck do you live Arizona?
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>>81293249
Where do you see grids in that photo? Just how disorganized you want your city, mang?
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>>81291196
F R E E D O M
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>>81293223
>no lawns to mow

One other advantage
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groove street, home.
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>>81293426
that pic looks exactly like where i grew up except with less land
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>>81293400

(((condo fees))) are fucking bullshit
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>>81293499
>America isn't Hollywood

Doesn't change the fact that posters in this very thread apparantly don't consider the centre of town to be safe:
>>81290327
>>81290641
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>>81293327
You're making an awfully big fucking generalization about Europe. I'm pretty sure there's some cities over there with parts you don't want to go into.
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>>81290002
I don't see the problem???

>Good sized homes
>Safe neighborhood
>Clean streets
>Close to amenities
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>>81291196
I've lived through this. I know the 2 hours commute may be a joke, but my was 50 minutes average, and 1.5 hours on a bad day...in one direction.
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>>81293327
There are just too many minorities shitting up the place sometimes which makes certain places really irredeemable.
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>>81293651
Forgot something:

>no niggers
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I hate towns
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>>81292922
>Brazil
>calling anything else a lifeless shithole
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>>81293641
>You're making an awfully big fucking generalization about Europe.

Yeah, no doubt.

>I'm pretty sure there's some cities over there with parts you don't want to go into.

Not really... Though I gotta be honest here, I don't really consider Latvia, Serbia or Slovakia to actually be Europe. That said, I'd probably rather take a bike ride against a shit hood in any of those three than for instance dipping into Camden NJ or some absolute Mogadishu-tier American shit.
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>>81290002
This looks horrible to me. I would never live in a community like that. Somewhere in California I'm guessing?
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Canadian blacks are bro tier.
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>>81293651
>>Close to amenities
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>>81293762
No.
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Waterfront suburbs are where its at, I love these kind of communities.
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>>81293523
One photo does not give a good approximation of all of Australia. A lot of estates seem way more crammed in and basically a grid.

Disorganisation makes cities intresting, and it works fine as long as they are designed over a crude radial layout. Like most European cities.
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in the meanwhile we pay 100k€ for a studio of 12 m2 in a student city
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>>81292963
>get in car
>drive 5 minutes over to shopping center
>get whatever you want
Euros always make such a big deal about the car. Funny thing that. I get in my car and take off as easily as I put on a pair of shoes. Sometimes I drive my car without my shoes :^
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>>81290002
It's absolute hell, I lived in an area like that for a couple years and wanted to kill myself every day. I currently live on an island in the middle of Lake Michigan, isolated, tiny population, only eat to get there is ferry or plane. Nobody's house is closer than 20 feet to another, and some are miles apart. No McDonald's, no fast food at all, not even a traffic light, life is good, 90 percent of the time it's like the rest of the country doesn't even exist. Everyone is self sufficient as fuck. If the rest of the world ended tomorrow, they wouldn't skip a beat. It's literally the perfect place to live as a /pol/ack
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>humans are ok with this
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>>81293604
It's the perfect home: you grow your own food so no need to drive everywhere to buy industrial shit, you have plenty of space for both kids and old folks, everyone gets a room, no shitty asphalt everywhere, doesn't look soulless (actually looks cozy), can see the stars at night, homeschool the kids, etc.

>>81293737
>thinks Brazil is actually made up entirely of favelas
The
>American education
meme is funny to some extent, but you don't have to pretend to be stupid all the time.
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>>81293763
There are gas stations and convenience stores in every corner leaf,fast foods and supermarkets as well.
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>>81293856
Relying on the car is what makes you people so fat and unhealthy. I now live in a late 19th century "streecar suburb" and I have a hardware store, restaurants, a library, etc. 5 minutes away.
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>>81293833
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>>81290002
man little boxes on the hillside
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The city>>>>suburbs

City = makes you tough and you need to actually earn the dough to survive

Suburbs = pussies who unfortunately can't see the sexy skyscrapers

t. New Yorker on vacation
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>>81292667
This, the suburbs is how we get away from troublesome minorities and degenerates, to raise our families. I lived 30 minutes from our big shitole melting pot sanctuary city, yet never experienced any crime, and only encountered 3 blacks in my suburban school system.
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I think that tract housing is aesthetic
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>>81293223

Chandler is nice.

Im in peoria.
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>>81293973
5 minute away, walking*
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>>81293856

>Getting in the car for a 5 minute drive
>consistently

>IT LIEK A PAIR OF SHOOZ KNICCA, 4REALS IT LIEK U DUN EVEN UNNASTAIND
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>>81290665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkvIh27Gsfg
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>>81293878
show me your front yard and the view (in the morning) I want to know what this looks like.
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>>81293964
I used to live in an American style suburb and everything was 30 minutes away if you wanted to walk.

see
>>81293973
>>81294026
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>>81293741
>I don't really consider Latvia, Serbia or Slovakia to actually be Europe.

Well they are whether you like it or not. I'd like to not count Louisiana, Alabama, and Texas, but I don't have a choice in the matter.

I hear Poland ain't nice everywhere either. And it is definitely "real" Europe.
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>>81290002
Honestly that looks comfy, I grew up at a fucking commie block.
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>>81293820
>boat people
>"let's go out on the boat"
blegh
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>>81290665
Not allowed to park on the pavement
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>>81293751
>OMG!1!
>ANON DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE WITH US!!!
>HOW WILL WE GO ON? WHAT WILL WE DO NOW!?11!
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>>81293751
CA, AZ or FL. My guess is Arizona because there's some brownish lawns. CA has no shame in their water usage.

>>81293763
What?
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What's wrong with affordable and efficiently built housing? One of the biggest problems facing this country is there aren't enough fucking houses and 300k NET new arrivals each year.

Average price in UK: 250k
Average price in London: 500k
1980: House was 4 times average income
2016: House is 16 times average income.
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>>81290002
How do they play Pokemon Go?
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>>81291702
Construction companies buy a large plot of land, build a suburb house by house, and then sell the houses to people as they build them to get their money back. Very few people get to or want to design their own house and have it built, since it's a lot more expensive.
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>>81294073
>I hear Poland ain't nice everywhere either. And it is definitely "real" Europe.

Poland is a lot safer and more peaceful than New Jersey.
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Ohmy looks like a great neighborhood. Lets put '''1000''' ''''syrian''' '''refugees''' in there.
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>>81294073
In terms of safety?
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>>81294148

The net 300k arrivals are your problem.
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>>81290002
>>81290327
>>81290641
I've always wanted to live in such a place. Been living in this pooskin infested city all my life.
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>>81294148
theres going to a global housing crisis in 2020-2025 dont tell anyone i said this
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>>81290002
>Americans are ok with this
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>>81293232
Good on you my man. I went to college in Lubbock so when I came back and wanted to "take a year off" I lived in a cabin in Hays county managing the land for grazing cattle, and keeping it in good shape for dove season and deer season. Nothing like shredding on a JD to pay rent and getting /comfy/ at night by the fireplace.

Tin roof on the right is cabin, roof on left is the barn.
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>>81294105
there is nothing else to be said
this is the complete existence of boat people
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>>81290665
They are not wide, you should see some of roads here. Could fit a six lane highway down some suburban streets.
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>>81294210
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>>81294111
It's actually because every other American drives some variation of this or a Ford F-150.
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>>81294180
They exacerbate an already bad housing problem. 300k becoming 0 would still take years and years for the government to catch up and they show no signs of doing so
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>>81291196
You forgot retirement
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>>81294021
I am born & raised Chandler, so I will be dumping Chandler,

>pic related
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>>81292574
I too live comfy northlakes master race
Europoors BTFO
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>>81294072
Thank christ for cars,you wouldnt want to walk under Las Vegas weather
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>>81291256
Lady who works at my dentist's office commutes over two and a half hours to his office and then she has to do the commute back. She's married and has several kids as well. Some people just enjoy that two or more hours on the road for whatever reason and I just don't get it.
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>>81294144
see

>>81293973
>>81294026

Nothing is a walk away. This is why suburbanites are obese.
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>>81294028
That five minute drive could be five miles.
>mfw I was in college and yurapeeans would obstinately decide to walk to places that "can't be that far" and come back nearly dead from the heat, smog, and distance of walking along a highway for miles and miles to get a gallon of milk.
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>>81290002
Still better than a burned down town.
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>>81290002
it actually looks really nice
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>>81294325
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>>81294111
That's shit. Also, what's the point of garages?

>>81294156
Like I said here >>81293426 it's cheaper to build your own like picture related, than to move in to a pre-built neighborhood.
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>>81293456
>Car is prioritized over human aesthetic

t. Howard Roark

Fuck off Ayn Rand, your book is boring.
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>>81293741
>Latvia, Serbia or Slovakia to actually be Europe
>They don't like muslim immigrants taking over
>comfypajamas.jpg
You're a moron. We all see the news, princess. We know what your shithole country looks like.
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>>81291561
Freedom to what?

You cant even collect fucking rain water, or grow your own crops that arent monsanto seeds.

You live in a plastic world nigger.
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>>81294393
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>>81294008
>e suburbs is how we get away from troublesome minorities and degenerates,

Ya gotta be careful though. Some suburbs can end up having the kids all doing drugs and sleeping around with each other while mom and dad are too dead tired from working 50 hours a week with a 2 hour commute every day to notice anything is amiss.
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>>81294343
Cars have their utility and suburbs have their fans. It's not for me though. That's all.
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>>81290002
>you will never grow up in a comfy 90s American suburb

I hate living in London
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>>81290002
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>>81292818
Who dis? Pls tell I need it
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>>81294421
>human aesthetic
i.e. decay and the smell of pee everywhere
Is rape night considered esthetically pleasing?
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>>81294470
how the fuck else do you expect white children to learn how to survive in the real world
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>>81294405
>it's cheaper to build your own like picture related, than to move in to a pre-built neighborhood.

Debatable,the whole point of suburban housing is that they are built to max efficiency while still being cheap.
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dont mind me just posting superior AMSTERDAM

>dat historical heritage
>dat nightlife
>dat hyperspeed internet compared to most of the world
>dat quality of life

Too bad about the ever increasing tourism and muslims though.
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>>81294527
>t. robot master
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>>81294501
Looks almost communist.
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IT COULD BE WORSE
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>>81294441
>Mexicant
because we need our natural rain water to go naturally into where it is directed, collecting it disrupts the water level
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>>81290818
>Found the Californian
Wrong. That also applies to NY and other highly liberal/leftist metropolitan cesspools.
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>>81293856
Euros don't understand how easy it is to drive in the States, they don't get drivers license til they are 18+ and it cost 1000+ Euros to pay for drivers ed. Different culture.
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>>81294441
>fucking rain water
That's a few democrat party controlled places. You know, the party you beaners vote for.
>grow your own crops that arent monsanto seeds
That's only large farms. If the farm chooses to use Monsanto seed.
This is why your country failed, anon.
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>>81294353

>Americans act smug that their country has such shitty infrastructure that you can't even go out for a pint of milk on foot

You realise that you guys are absolutely hilarious, right?
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>>81290002

Wow, for a moment I thought that it was a horde of Muslims praying. Sure looks like it before you click on the image.
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>>81293741
> I don't really consider Latvia, Serbia or Slovakia to actually be Europe.

Elaborate.
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>>81294436

>We all know memes

eheheheh. You don't know shit about shit. I can tell because of your flag.
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>>81294599
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>>81293878
But do you have modern conveniences? Doctors, supermarkets, internet and modern plumbing?
If so, then sign me the fuck up.
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>>81294591
Le corbusier's towers in the park are actually somewhat related to the american suburb. They're both ideas centred around the car as the primary mover of people. Note the total lack of amenities or stores. I've been to Prague and it's suburbs that look horrid like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towers_in_the_park
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>>81294057
I haven't been able to find a morning picture yet but this is the view from standing in my yard
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>>81290002
>Americans are ok with this
Looks like nice homes. Sure. Wtf is your problem OP? FYI: I bet you don't even own a home.
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>>81294712

I don't think about anything to the east of Germany basically, and as such I don't consider it to be anything and don't take anything that happens there into account, ever. It's nothing personal.
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>>81294542
Based Netherlands
Sorry that we only visit to take drugs and fuck prostitutes
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>>81294217
You're equating a black guy with suburbs. Quite a fail there, guvnuh.
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>>81290695
I lived in a place that looked exactly like OP's pic in Phoenix suburbs.
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>>81294542
dude tell me more about amsterdam, what are the things to do there?
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>>81290002
USA is such a fake country. People looks fake, people talks fake, their houses looks fake, their cities looks fake.
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>>81294527
What are you on about?
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>>81293327
This
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>>81294848
The houses are made of paper. Because it's fake AND disposable.
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>>81294167
>Saudi Arabia safer than Sweden
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>>81294841
>what to do in amsterdam
drugs and paid women
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>>81294470
>Some suburbs can end up having the kids all doing drugs and sleeping around
As opposed to cities and the countryside, where the kids are...what...non acting normal? Were you never a teen? Or just not yet?
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>>81293499
People here openly say they don't go to certain areas of you cities. Shut the fuck up dumb cunt
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How can the rest of the world even compete?
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>>81294848
>poor frog will never know the childhood joys of biking around the suburbs with your friends and riding into the woods at the edge of your neighborhood

I'll pray for you frog. I will
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>>81294841

Museums, prostitutes, overpriced weed, nice sights to see, decent parks to have picnic and chill and getting shot.
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>>81292963
Actually that's exactly what growing up was like for me. Except growing up there made me want to blow up my brains.

I am planning on saving up money to buy a lot in a subdivision in that town and build a house I can raise a family in. I think actually getting my kids out to do cool things will make the difference in their lives and make their experience not as shitty.
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>>81294752
What are you doing to make sure you survive if supply boats stop showing up?
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>>81292799
Your car is as ugly as a 90s Volvo
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>>81294932
Shariah is designed around Arab behaviour as a deterrent.
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>>81294848
t. Fagguette
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>>81294934
that's common knowledge, but i mean things aside from that, i've already once went there for 4 days just to do drugs and fuck women, but that was pretty much it, i want to do some serious stuff (and do drugs and fuck women)
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>>81292577
> 36 inch slab between...

You've clearly never worked in construction.
Do you have any clue what an unnecessary cost that would be.
I belive there's every possibility that you can't hear your neighbour due to good insulation, but if you belive this to be true you're a complete and utter idiot.
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>>81293741
Those 3 countries still don't have no ghetto no go zones and are pretty much safe you dutchfag
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>>81294841
Sickening parties and festivals if you're into electronic music
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>>81294539
They might be built for cheaper, but they are certainly not sold like they are cheaper.
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>>81290327
Shut up man child
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>>81290818
>while citys are beaner/nigger vile
Talking about this one. Been to NYC for some time and let me tell you about them beaners and niggers; especially the beaner-nigger hybrids, the Puerto Ricans.

They smell horrible. Puerto Ricans, just douse themselves with perfume. When you're in a subway, in the middle of summer, in a heatwave, you'd know who is Puerto Rican in that sardine tin on wheels just by the smell, even if you're not trying to. Their stench just assaults the senses, like it was trying to mug your olfactory nerves.
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>>81294542
>www.dutchamsterdam.nl
>Despite a high crime rate, Amsterdam is Holland's most attractive city to live.
>Amsterdam crime statistics report an overall upward trend in crime based on data from 14 years with violent crime increasing and property crime increasing.
And this is before they starting replacing the population with goatherders.
Paradise!
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>>81292854
tf is this xD
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>>81290327
But I can
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>>81295114

I never meant to imply they're unsafe. I meant to imply that I don't take all of Europe into account when I say 'Europe'... I just mean the little bubble that actually matters to me and my everyday life and I don't think about the rest because I have crippling autism and really cannot be bothered to care about too much.
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>>81295121
Not anymore at least.

they certainly were a few years ago.
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>>81294441
>You cant even collect fucking rain water
Some parts of your country could probably benefit from that policy.
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>>81294841
amsterdamfag here.

Depends, if you're unculured swine we'd like you to stay away.

If you're a proper person, sure have some fun in our nightclubs, we have a great scene with good DJ's etc. Sure, maybe smoke some weed if you really want to go that (shitty) route.

But also check out all the cool museums we have, the Dutch basicly owned half the world back in the 1700's, and we had great artists/painters.
The nature surrounding Amsterdam or just the netherlands in general can we beautiful, the dunes near the sea are kinda special since we're like 8m below sealevel etc.

Lot's of cool historical, cultural and naturish shit to see here.
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>>81294405
If you're building anywhere near a city, you have to deal with building permits and zoning. I promise you, it is not cheaper to build your own house. Not by a long shot.
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suburbs were invented purely to fuel further consumption
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>>81294599
>because we need our natural rain water to go naturally into where it is directed, collecting it disrupts the water level
The volume is insignificant.
You ban the collection because you're a liberal cunt running low on other peoples' money, and this is another drop of blood you can suck.
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>>81294738
There's a nurse practitioner and a rural medical center. A damn good volunteer fire department and paramedics, and the dude who owns the little airport that the little twin engine BN islander planes run passenger service out of is a solid dude and will fly you off to the mainland in an emergency. If it's a super major emergency the coast Guard can come in a chopper. I've never known anyone to die due to medical care being delayed. There's a decent size grocery store that has everything you'd need. Internet used to be shit but it's been catching up, cell phones only work reliably in town, but when you leave town you don't need them anyway, keeps the nature out in the middle of nowhere more naturey. My plumbing works fine. Best part is, theres one cop, for the entire island. And he's off duty at night. Half the people here don't even have license plates/registration on their vehicles. Excuse my idiot cousins giant head in picture.
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>>81290934
To use your alien measurement system you are aware that image is barely showing a half kilometer area, right?
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>>81295166

>14 years of increasing violent crime and increasing property crime
>Unsafest city in the Netherlands
>Still one of the safest capitals in Europe
>Still a lower murder rate than the US overall

The fact that Amsterdam is our very worst really only means that we don't have it too bad.
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>>81293640
Downtowns in America are generally less safe than the suburbs, so it's not an irrational fear. Public housing projects were built near urban cores so that niggers would have easy access to jobs. The problem is that they don't work, so there are a bunch of Tyrone's hanging around aimlessly. This is magnified by government and social services being located in downtowns, so the underclass is usually hanging around the indigent hospital, homeless shelter, or jail. What makes people feel unsafe is being panhandled by aggressive homeless people and hearing black guys holla at them.
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>>81295288
R A R E
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>>81295230
I guess, but then again, all housing is cheaper now.
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>>81294947
Countryside kids have their own problems. That's where I grew up. A lot of them never even go through anything you can call a maturity process. 20 years still sitting around watching Sponge Bob all day same as they were when they were 10.

Ironically, out in the country where it would be safest for children to go out in play is where you find the most paranoid people who keep their kids in the house.
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I am so sick of fucking arrogant Europeans attacking American style suburbs.
I live in an 'average sized' British 'house' with my parents, and 2 younger brothers (I am 23, they are 16 and 13)

Here is a breakdown of the rooms in the house

>Bedroom 1
Basically a fucking cupboard this is my bedroom. I have a single bed that takes up 70% of the floorspace. Because the room is so small it is always damp, I have had to replace my bedsheets 4 times this year due to mould growing on them. I also can't do things loudly at night because it makes noise and wakes everyone up through the whole house

>Bedroom 2
My parents bedroom is literally 2 feet across from mine. Is a little bigger with a cupboard built in and a double bed taking up 50% of the floorspace. I have to store my underpants and socks in there because I have no space. That means every morning I have to creep into their bedroom to put underpants on. As my dad always is awake and makes the same joke ('Hey mum, wake up, anons re-tiling his virgin roof', apparently virgin roof is my groin and tiles are pants) I haven't changed pants in 2 weeks

>Bedroom 3
Little brothers, share this room. biggest room in the house. still tiny though. my 16 year old brother gave my 13 year old brother a concussion once out of anger from being unable to wank (he threw a metalic cheese board at his head)

>Kitchen
Fucking tiny. No room to chop. Shitty small oven. Toaster, microwave that barely fit, tiny fucking fridge and freezer so impossible to store own food.

>Bathroom
Literally connected to the kitchen so you can't shit if someone is cooking, that being said it doesn't stop my dad from shitting when I cook, he saw me cooking some fish fingers the other day and told me 'those fish better use those fingers to cover their noses, because a big stink is comin!'. horrible.

Life would be 10 times better in the USA. and cheaper.
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>>81294841
For the average tourist: fuck prostitutes and buy weed

But there are also tons of historical sights and museums if youre more into that
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>>81295166
>And this is before they starting replacing the population with goatherders.

Also, what? Before? Do you have the slightest idea of the demographic developments of the Netherlands and Amsterdam, or are you just meming about the current migrant crisis?
>goat herders in Amsterdam
>a recent development
only 1
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>>81292854
That looks fucking dreadful.
>you will never live in a murrican suburb where everything looks fake and plastic-y.
Feels real gud desu.
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>>81295273
I know man, Dutch art is something I really dig, do you happen to know which museums are worth visiting?

Also, are there any other cities one should visist? The Hague seems like a place I'd like to visit
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>>81294692
>shitty infrastructure
You're listening to obama and company. It's actually great. And this country is much, much larger than your postage stamp.
>you can't even go out for a pint of milk on foot
What kind of moron goes out for a pint of milk? An unemployed moron with nothing else to fill up the endless days, and no money to buy more.
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>>81294441
Hey Erasmo meet my veggie garden that I water with stored rainwater.
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>>81295390

>Americans not only tolerate this, but apparantly designed it this way

weeeeew laddy..
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>>81294848
...he furiously types while sitting on the toilet, his knees pressed against the kitchen sink.
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>>81295446
>Life would be 10 times better in the USA. and cheaper.

So move.
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>>81290002
Americans? that could be Scarborough or Missisauga or some Montreal suburb. There might be more trees but pretty much the same.

Maybe odd that there's no boulevard between the sidewalk and the street, but maybe I'm just used to my city.
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>>81294721
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>>81293878
>self sufficient as fuck
Do you guys grow your own food?
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>>81294791
Something tells me even your mom doesn't take your opinions personally. They're all based on ignorance of anything other than your neighborhood.
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>>81295495
>You're listening to obama and company. It's actually great.
I've been there. It's pretty embarassing
>And this country is much, much larger than your postage stamp.
Absolutely true.. But that doesn't really excuse the state of infrastructure of places where people actually live.
>no sidewalks
>no bike paths
>no public transports

>What kind of moron goes out for a pint of milk?

The kind of moron that forgets shit when he goes shopping. Also:
>How to go fully autistic over an example: An Introduction to American Culture
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>>81295518
Continued
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>>81295475
Rijksmuseum is pretty nice.

Has most of our famous paintings, and some other cool stuff like a part of the British flag ship we stole from their own port.
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>>81295166
Amsterdam on its darkest night is still a hundred times saver than your average big American city.

Go back to your culture of fear and buy some more guns to protect your freedoms.
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>>81295561
>>81295673
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>>81292164
>1 jumping at a time

Fuck that shit when i had friends over there where like 3 or 4 people on that thing at time.

Battle royal.
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>>81295061
Honestly the boat doesn't run for a good 3 months in the winter when the lake is iced over. Supplies come on the plane then. Some of the more adventurous people will drive their pickup trucks across the ice to the mainland to stock up. 30+ miles across frozen Lake that's close to 500 feet deep in parts, no thanks. Most everyone here has a boat, some have big boats, some have tugboats, quite a few people have planes. The only way supplies would totally stop coming for good is if Society ceased to exist everywhere else, In which case the people here would most likely go back to living the way they did 100+ years ago. Lots of fishing and hunting. Almost everyone still has a wood burning stove somwhere on their property because the winters are a bitch and every now and then the power will go out. Lot better these days than it used to be though. There's a big ass cable under the lake, if something happens to that, theres a generating station with 4 massive house sized diesel generators that can supply the whole island with electricity for a couple months just on the fuel stored on site. Excuse Faggy table in pic, wife's fault
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>>81295695
Lastly, my jalapeños. Because I like spicy food and I don't want to walk out to my garden to make chile.
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>>81295729
It's good to see some nationalism out of Europe. Keep on keepin' on, Netherlands.
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>>81294542
Fun fact: this photo is approximately 10% of the whole city*

European cities are small as fuck.

Consider
>Amsterdam Area: 219.4 square kilometers (85 miles)
>Lexington, KY (which you have probably never heard of) area: 739 square kilometers (285 miles)

You could fit over eight Amsterdams into the size of one very forgettable mid-sized American city.

Of course, populations...

>Amsterdam: 840,486
>Lexington: 290,263

And then there are the nearby cities in the region (near Amsterdam).

*I just made that up.
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>>81293726
na dedinach skapal pes,ani doktor,ani hovno tam nevies najst.
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>>81296043

>Fun fact
>The Netherlands is tiny, this means that European cities are tiny

No m8, it means the Netherlands is tiny. And now that we're talking about it, FUCKING FULL, don't come here. Thanks in advance.
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>>81294344
Driving in the morning wakes you up and in the evening takes the stress away. But only if you actually enjoy driving in general
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>>81290781
>>81290992
>>81291369
comieblocks have more muh freedom than america
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>>81296186
I love driving, but fuck a two hour commute.
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>>81295606
A lot of people have at least basic vegetables, fruit and stuff planted on their property. There's also a couple farms in the middle of the island. Since the majority of the place is forest and fields though, there's enough deer, turkeys, and other animals everywhere that the entire population of the place could live the rest of their lives still eating meat even if an apocalypse happened everywhere else. And if you don't like that, the whole place is surrounded by Lake michigan, so basically unlimited fish. Here's a sunset on the west side of the island.
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>>81296310

Suburbs don't have freedom. They have home owners associations.. That's distinctly different.
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>>81290984
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>>81295940
>trucks crossing a frozen lake

I'm not from there, I'm not from a Great Lakes state, but my family is. I still can't wrap my mind around driving over the ice on any front.
I don't know how you guys get by on those islands. It's too cold to grow winter crops and nobody can reach you once the lake is frozen. Is everything ruled by who has a plane? Surely there aren't enough deer to shoot on that island for calorie intake.
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>>81296103
this sentence sounds as though it was translated by google translate
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>>81291561
>no where else in the world can kids ride a bike through town

this is how brainwashed claps are.
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>Suburbs
I would rather live in izba in the middle of nowhere.
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>>81295446
I've seen some photos of these kinds of houses.
Even the Americans living in run down shit trailers and government apartments have more room.

I grew up in a trailer not so dissimilar from this one.
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>>81296043
The historical city center is pretty small, but 10% is BS.
Amsterdam is much more than just the historical center in the middle, just like NY is more than Manhattan.

>>81295475
For museums Rijksmuseum is a no-brainer, although very crowded so plan your visit well. Dont try to see everything in 1 visit/day, theres simply too much.
Scheepvaart (Marine) museum is very interesting as well, including the 1700s replica of a typical trade ship next to the museum.
Escher museum is imo interesting, but not in Amsterdam. There's so many, just search for guides and see which artstyle interests you most and visit there.
I'd personally skip van Gogh but that's just my taste.

As for other cities, I'd recommended the smallerv but historic towns we have. The cities are all pretty much the same, and once you seen Amsterdam the others won't wow you as much. Utrecht is nice, The Hague is okay, not much there except a for a few big highlights.

Go for the smaller (well known) towns, near the sea or near Ijsselmeer (bigass 'sea' in the middle of our country). Marken is a really nice town (although touristy) to check out. Go check some windmills as well.
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think it depends on the person but I have lived in a variety of places including suburbs and I would def prefer to live in a city.
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>>81292818
>>81292818
I live in the area directly west of worcestor, right on the border of 508/413. Right in those woods, farms and lakes. This area is baller
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>>81296631
Looks like a house from dayz
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>>81296539
Who do you think protects you? lol? member of NATO amirite? fuck off m8
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>>81291196
I've lived in France, the US, England, and Canada and what you wrote describes most people in all of those places.
The only difference might be type of food.
But are we all making El Bulli levels meals every night? Be serious.
And plenty of people take long commutes into London and Paris and Vancouver's traffic is worse than LA's.
Could most of be characterized as robots based only on our metronomic routines? I guess so.
I like trolling the Americlaps as much as the next guy but they don't live a shitty life at all, as a general rule.
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>>81291263
Driveways ARE awful, though. Really kills the look of a neighbourhood.
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>>81296931

>WE PROTECT YOU AND THEREFORE YOU MAY NOT POINT OUT THAT WE CANNOT EVEN PROTECT OUR OWN CITIES
>NO I AM NOT MADE

m8 cool down.. grab your bike and go for a little tour around town. wind in your hair might do you some good..
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>>81296719
Aw, that's comfy as fuck.
I could picture Mole, from Wind in the Willows, living there.
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>>81297100
thank you brother, you are correct *takes deep breath* I love you Nanno, you were always a good friend, why did this happen to me?
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>>81291263
>mfw that's good real estate for England
Fuck
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>>81297327
>why did this happen to me?

Leftist colleges.
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>>81291256
Millions and millions of people.
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>>81296501
This kinda explains how people get by over there when the boat isn't running. Little northern Michigan news story on one of the baddest ass, but nicest guys I've ever known.
https://youtu.be/trnLsGdZcoA
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>>81290002
Free market, bitch. Now don't you have some chick landlord to suck off?
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>>81297327
Big Willie Clinton... I'll never forget when I got my first of his mixtapes from datpiff
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>>81297909
It really is a place where everything is like America used to be. Or was supposed to be. Everyone knows everyone. Everyone helps each other out. Everyone wants to work. There was a couple opening up a new motel a few years ago, they had a wedding coming up in 2 days, were totally booked and the place wasn't anywhere near finished due to delays. They would have been fucked. Having to pay all those people's money back before they even officially opened would have bankrupted them. The morning 2 days before, almost the whole population of the island showed up and asked what they could do to help. Carpenters did carpentry, their wife's put the furniture in, construction guys brought heavy equipment, 200+ people showed up everyone offered whatever they could and worked all day and the place was finished on time. Nobody expected any payment or anything at all in return. People here stick together like crazy due to the isolation.
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>>81294501
The American Dream
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>>81291967
built their own, just like the favela?
fucking kill yourself PTcuck
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>>81290002
>>Americans are ok with this
yep
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