Food storage.
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Obv you can't go to grocer in event of Martial Law, like Turkbros.
What do you recommend for stocks Anons?
Kudzu is edible
That's a good question I've been considering myself.
Should you buy canned food which are heavy, but hydrated?
Or should you buy dehydrated / freeze dried food, and hope that you have a supply of clean water nearby?
>>81239884
Does that container in your pic have water filters included?
>>81239884
Oxygen free rice, dried beans, and water. Aside from the water you can keep those things up to 30 years in storage anf theyll be safe. Dehydrated beans literally dont expire. Honey, canned fish, jerkey, and peanut butter are also good.
>>81239884
Bumping for interest
Also seeking advice for when its time to go inna woods
>>81240381
If you go the canned food route, make sure you get low sodium canned food, and make sure you stock up a bunch on can openers.
Google "MRE" or camping foods
I remember seeing a channel on YT, where they reviewed MRE's etc., can't recall the name though.
Also get a few lifestraws. I swear these things are a miracle
>tfw neet
>habbenings soon
>no prepping done (inb4 bull prepping)
>too broke to buy essentials
>>81239884
I'm going to buy one of these and filters and brain force
>>81239884
Water, food, weapons, ammo, tools, barter, wealth storage.
In that order.
Depending on your finances, a good start is about 10-15% in PHYSICAL precious metals.
Food should be something you already enjoy, with a high shelf life, and high caloric value.
Water can be a combination of storage, such as a waterbob, food grade drums, etc, and filters such as katadyn and lifestyle etc.
Weapons should be something easy to find, reliable and with prevalent ammo. AR is fine. 9mm is fine.
Don't forget tools. If something breaks, you need to know how to fix it, or you're fucked.
Barter is anything you have tons of to trade. Keep in mind, if you trade a lot, people will assume you have more.
This might sound gay, but get into extreme couponing or convince your girlfriend (hand) to do it.
You can fill a room with random toiletries like soaps, razors, detergent, dry goods, etc for nearly free. Just double up all coupons and wait for a sale. There are a bunch of apps that streamline the process.
Wealth storage is usually physical gold if you think stability will return, and silver is useful of you're poorer than most.
Good luck.
cheap store brand peanut butter, those big jars are like 6 bucks. not healthy but calories out the ass.
>>81240616
Nope.
>>81241036
Heres what i do. Every time you go to the grocery store buy at least one item to store. Canned, dried, bottled, something. Prep food doesnt always need to last years, two year shelf life is fine enough. It canjust be one can of something. It really adds up and will just be a couple bucks added to your purchase
>>81240805
Same here, that slav guy that makes too many mouth noises.
>>81241248
Peanut butter is pretty healthy.
>>81241036
Never too late to get a job and stop waiting for shit to happen, dude.
Get a canoe and some fishing nets and you're prepared.
>>81241241
Woops, meant lifestraw not lifestyle.
>>81241119
Brain force is gud , Secret 12 is also gud.
I have 4 boxes of MRE
>>81240987
>sucking poop water water up with a straw
>smiling
>India
>>81241119
>brain force
>falling for the herbal supplement jew
>>81241036
>get job
>get your own place
>get better job
>can now afford to prep for disasters
it really IS THAT EASY
and before you claim that there are no jobs near you, get a trade, learn it well, cross trade into something else complimentary like welding and pipefitting, or pipefitting and boilermaking
>>81239884
what's this in OP pic and how do I buy it?
>>81241708
>sucking poop water through straw
>still cleaner than urban american tap water
>>81242051
Forgot to add this.
This anon said exactly what I was thinking about learning trades. Welding and boiler making can make you quite comfy.
>>81241451
Thanks Muhammed, we don't have as many rivers here.
>Get something I can take when we invade
Okay, cool yet dick Omar
>Trying to help...
Shut up already Osama
>>81241690
ah the retards choice
>>81241241
any infographics of long lasting foods?
>>81242485
Yeah...IGs dumb it down well.
>>81242141
pls respond
>>81241363
This.
Just pick up a few extra tings every time you go to the store. If you see cases of bottled water on sale pick up a couple and just put them away under the bed or something. Keep at it and it will start to add up. Build it up from a 2 week supply, to a 3 month supply, to a 1 year supply.
And to stress, buy things you will eat. Rotate your preps by eating the older ones and putting the new stuff in the back, otherwise you are going to end up with a bunch of spoiled shit in a few years. You want to basically build up a part of your house to be your own little market that you use and restock slowly but regularly.
>>81242051
>>81241444
>>81241363
you're right lads, It's that easy!
except im a EE student, and workload at school too heavy to have one of those trade jobs...
Anybody recommend a field I can get into for part-time work besides retail-shit that doesnt pay well
>>81242888
Nice trips.
Looks like Alex Jones rebrand of MyPatriotSupply. I tasted once. Gud.
>>81239884
Protien Bars
Jerky
Rice
Red Beans and enough seasoning to make it good
Thats a good combo of super expensive and super cheap.
And dont forget stuff to make tasty water -
Cheap ass Tea
Some Earl Grey to spice it up
Some Tension Tamer for flavor
...White Stevia Powder for a little bit of sweetness since a little goes a long way.
>>81242485
Eh, lemme see if I can Inna woods dump.
If you can, just search for the do/k/ument.
/k/ is all over this shit.
This. >serbian account of total breakdown published periodically online under slightly different accounts
>>81242413
I didn't pay for them. better than nothing.
>>81239884
>What do you recommend for stocks Anons?
Get one of these water bags for the bathtub and don't forget the water heater has 40-60 gallons in it.
>>81244416
How long do those last?
>>81239884
water storage is more important desu. even if you have a body of water nearby everyone will be pooping in it once the taps shut off.
As for food, cans of soup, beef stew, chili, ravioli, etc. are perfect for short term storage. They are fine to eat for a few years past their expiration.
For the long term, a big bag o' rice and some multivitamins will keep you alive while you wait for all the normies to kill each other off.
But seriously, make sure you have a water filter, or at least the ability to make one. PVC pipe + sand + bleach. Drink a lot of 2L sodas and fill them with water when finished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhqUk28OwHs
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY ALEX JONES SUPERSAYAIN MODE. PRAISE DNA FORCE TO AVOID THE SPIRIT BOMB.
>>81241363
>Every time you go to the grocery store buy at least one item to store.
Indeed, just buy stuff you already eat, no need for expensive MRE-type meals and don't forget to clearly write the expiration date on the can with a Sharpie.
>>81244967
>>81245048
Double check the procedures for these and don't kill yourselves please.
>>81240730
>low sodium
WHY
>>81245277
All I got for now.
>>81240616
I have pic related and a bunch of filters. Should be good enough to last a while.
>>81245586
Sodium can make you thirsty if you consume too mcuh of it.
>>81243669
Thanks!
>>81245170
On my To-Do (but never will…) List, is to have pre-cut 5/8” plywood panels to fit all the windows of my house.
Because if the SHTF, it’ll be too late to go to Homey Depot….
>>81245586
A lot of Sodium will dehydrate you
Here's a good long list of everything you may want to take into consideration: http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/preppers-supply-list-for-economic-collapse/
My idea is to have as much useful stuff as you can, while eliminating almost everything you don't really need. My personal stuff:
- Food supply
- Bottled water
- Seeds
- Pot / pan for cooking, and to boil water for drinking
- Tent
- 2 rifles, 2 handguns
- Extra ammo
- 2 axes (with blunt side for hammering), 2 knives
- Flashlight, extra batteries
- Entertainment. Books, pen / paper, playing cards, etc.
I disagree with this idea that you need gold / silver. That's not going to help you, nobody is going to give up anything useful for your gold or silver. If you plan to trade with other people, have something they might actually want, and something you don't really need / have extra of.
>>81239884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOH37W0jPpA
Obligatory viewing for all you food prepper types. Just buy some of Jim Bakker's buckets, and you'll eat like a king during the apocalypse.
>>81245586
Water is a big deal in a situation like this. Every drop counts.
>>81240695
>time to go inna woods
> implying people wont beat you there you little faggot, i got my sniper ready in a tree
>>81246259
Wouldn't that be more for hurricanes or tornadoes? It seems like it might keep honest people out but if people want in they'll tear the plywood off or climb.
>>81243312
landscaping and notbeingabitch
>>81239884
muh water filters!
>>81246416
>I disagree with this idea that you need gold / silver. That's not going to help you, nobody is going to give up anything useful for your gold or silver. If you plan to trade with other people, have something they might actually want, and something you don't really need / have extra of.
Indeed, Bic lighters and .22LR ammo would be a far more useful trade item.
Only buy foods your family and you will eat. Rice, oats, flour, sugar, salt are staples you can pick up at any whole sale store for cheap. If buying massive amounts (years worth) invest in some mylar bags (amazon).
Even picking up a few extra cans of food will help. Hell buy ramen if you like it just try not to use the salt packs that come with them.
>>81241397
not when it's full of HFCS and palm oil
>>81246289
>go to hospital for dehydration
>they hook you up to a saline drip
hmm
>>81246537
>being a shoot-on-sight faggot
Seriously possibly the greatest resource in a survival situation is social and familial bonds. Teamwork and sharing goals and distributing work loads is how communities are built and rebuilt.
>>81241690
You're going to fucking die.
>>81245586
Because then the water in the can doubles as a water supply for maximum space / cost efficiency. If you drink salted water all it's going to do is dehydrate you even more.
>>81239884
>Beans
>Rice
>Dried meats
>Plenty of water to get you through until things settle down and it's safe to go out and forage
>>81246537
This. Someone will always be faster than you and have a lace staked out. Better off prepping your home for living, like having places to hide your supplies and be able to stay low key
>>81246418
Were they going for the Tim and Eric Show vibe or have they evolved into this on their own?
>>81239884
20 boxes of Soylent. Water plus food in one.
>>81247094
You're going to fucking die constipated
>>81246259
Plywood isn't going to stop shit. If you want to stop looters you are going to need welded steel bars in your windows and a door reinforced with steel bolts in the frame.
Against a military threat nothing would stop home raids. Create a secret underground shelter in the middle of the woods and stock it full of food and water.
>>81246974
I'm talking long term with no medical treatment available fag. You don't wanna eat a fuck ton of sodium if water is gonna be scarce. It's necessary in moderation
>>81247475
Fire...done.
>>81241036
>NEET
>Not in
>Education
>Employment
>Training
>>81243312
>student
m8 I thought you still had to take a couple semesters of English for a STEM degree. Might want to look into that.
>>81246974
Youre a straight up tard. The ratio of salt in a saline drip is the same as the ratio in blood.
Sugar and protein
>>81247316
Which color?
>>81246880
This dude gets it
>>81242266
>urban american tap water
not having a well
>>81247291
I don't know what Tim and Eric show is. But this is an edit of the Jim Bakker show. Jim Bakker is a guy who sells food buckets to Evangelical types. He makes a lot of money selling crappy food to apocalypse wanting Evangelicals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrcYnusGGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q222J0PmGy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2A5csyMfw0
>>81244492
^This. If you have more than one tub buy one for each. Honestly if something big happened washing your whole body in a bath will not be a necessity. Just wash your pits/crotch/hand/dirty areas in a sink.
>>81246675
No. In a SHTF situation and you are lucky to have a second floor covering the bottom floor will prevent people from breaking your windows and entering. It is an additional safety measure.
Just be sure to install them from the inside not the outside.
Don't waste money on prepackaged deals unless you're a lazy richfag, in which case you'll probably die anyway to be frank.
Start with white rice (lasts longer than brown), pinto beans, and salt. Dehydrated vegetables are good. Dried grains last 30+ years; cans are heavy and last 4-8. Crisco or canned butter last the longest of the fats, unless you have alternative energy to power a freezer and freeze vegetable oil.
Hard dry wheat is good, too; flour doesn't last as long.
>>81246675
>It seems like it might keep honest people out but if people want in they'll tear the plywood off or climb.
If you're going to grab yer SKS and go inna woods, odds are you'll be dead within a fortnight…
Best bet is to stay in your house where you have shelter, food, water, guns, clothes, etc. and while plywood panels won’t make your house into a bunker, (nothing short of being an actual bunker will) it will provide much greater security then glass windows.
If you can afford it, get roll-down window shutters.
Try having a garden
Get seeds and quality tools
Learn how to can the food you grow.
Build a bee house for honey
do
>>81246882
Also I suggest dried beans, peas and honey.
Learn how to cook.
Rabbits are easy to keep and breed for food and furs if you know what you are doing
Digging a pond and stocking it with a hardy type of fish would help as well
>>81247739
Is there more than one kind of bottled Soylent?
>>81240381
just stock guns and take everyone else's. it's like buying gold.... the fuck you gonna do with gold when everyone is getting shot?
>>81242141
https://www.amazon.com/4-Week-Emergency-Food-Supply-Servings/dp/B0105TKS7U?ref_=nav_custrec_signin&
I just googled it
>>81245622
you gotta have more than pics anon
>>81246259
Like people can't grab a ladder?
Also when criminals want access into a locked building they often do something called a smash and grab, where they drive a vehicle into the building.
I can save any number of DRY foods for decades. But how can I keep water from stagnating as long as possible?
>>81246880
I forgot to mention, I have a few packs of bic lighters in with the rest of my gear as well. This is a good idea to use bic lighters as a trade item.
>>81247935
Soylent is a real thing?
>>81247624
when one is a student with no job you basically a neet, bro
>>81246416
>plan to trade
you mean lay waste to everyone who's not me?
>>81248144
Have the means to boil it or dig a well.
>>81248098
And you can be standing on the roof ready to push the ladder over and shoot at them if you're not retarded
>>81247475
>Plywood isn't going to stop shit.
It'll stop more then your neighbor's glass windows.
> Create a secret underground shelter in the middle of the woods and stock it full of food and water.
Yeah, good luck with that, Dutchbro...
>>81243312
I was an EE student once upon a time. I got hired by one of my profs. as a research assistant. Which, as an undergrad, basically just meant being a lab gopher. It paid pretty well, and a lot of the time I didn't have any work to do, so I was able to keep up with my schoolwork. You should talk to your professors and ask them if the school allows them to hire students in a work-study type of situation.
>>81248121
>BEANS
>RICE
>OIL
>SALT
>SUGAR
>POWDER MILK
that fuck you gonna cook with that?
Milky bean fried rice?
>>81248261
No, that's not what it means. Stop trying to besmirch pure NEETdom. Fucking normies, I swear.
Freeze dried foods. Look for the Mountain Home #10 cans. They stay good for 25 years (really they stay good longer but will lose their flavor).
They're expensive but really no more than like McDonalds.
Make sure you figure out something for water too. At least get a good filter.
>>81247072
it's like you've never been outside...
>>81248585
everybody look at this newfag and laugh
>>81246880
I like this idea. What would be some other value items to trade with?
>Multivitamins
>Can openers
>Utility knives/multi-tools
>backpacks and duffel bags
Obviously you wouldn't be able to carry all this around very easily since vehicles probably won't be reliable.
>You will never be a barter merchant roaming the wastes driving hard bargains and killing looters
Sucks.
>>81246880
>Bic lighters and .22LR ammo would be a far more useful trade item.
Also booze (high proof liquor doubles as disinfectant), smokes, TP, feminine products, meds (painkillers, sleep aids, bandages, anti-bactirial stuff), batteries, condoms (People want to avoid having babies) All make good barter items in a prolonged crisis.
Look up stories about places with fucked economies like Venezuela, some of them give you a real good idea of what carries value when things start to go bad.
>>81248585
Kek
>>81246880
/thread
+ cans of dinty moore
>>81248585
you can't possibly that stupid
>>81248942
what kind of fag would write sorry on the fucking brass? is he apologizing to his battle buddy for raining brass down on him on the firing line?
>>81246950
>Not buying the good stuff.
Only two ingredients in the stuff I buy: peanuts and salt.
>>81248793
Im not saying there wont be killing. What i am saying is that trading and sharing information and possibly building trust is a huge part of survival.
>you are holed up shooting anything that moves
>two people dont like it
>they kill you with overwhelming force
>>81246880
this is smart. my list is:
>lighters
>22lr ammo
>12ga/20ga birdshot
>5.56 55gr rounds
>9mm rounds
>cheap whiskey or vodka
>a couple burner pistols (hi point, rossi, taurus, tokarev, etc)
>pool chlorination powder (powered bleach)
>soap
>toilet paper
>fire wood
>basic medical supplies (bandages, azithromycin)
Aside from the ammo and z-paks it's basically just costco bulk pak type things that will be in limited supply. It's just too bad Costco doesn't sell ammo.
>>81248309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hwfr3zwv1Y
Video related, it's you
But I do agree with the anti-trading sentiment.
>>81247513
I have a well
>>81248217
Yeah. Few years ago this guy created a drink that basically includes all your required calories, micronutrients, and macronutrients together. It's basically a Protein Shake +, and it's great for survival situations.
>>81249161
A canadian, can't you read..?
>>81248793
Not everyone on this country is a nigger
-5 gal buckets with lids
-huge bags of rice
-huge bags of beans
-long lasting canned meats
-vacuum sealer
-plastic sheets
-desiccant
1. seal rice and beans in bags with vaccum sealer
2. Place bags of rice beans and cans of meat in buckets
3. place section of plastic sheet over top of bucket
4. seal bucket with lid
>>81249161
read the title
>>81240730
>he can't open a can without a can opener
lol what a queer.
>>81246880
Does anyone have the story of that one russian or Bosnian guy who was describing being under blocade, and saying that lighters were the number 1 asset.
>>81239884
I have two months worth of MRE's and water for a family of five and various other non-perishables. Oh, and I live in NW Montana and we're ready for just about anything around here.
>>81248217
Its basically estrogen suppliments. Highly discouraged. Its what changed Cosmo
Grass soup
>>81247825
>cans are heavy
which doesn't matter since I'm bugging in
>>81240381
If you plan on bugging out take dried, light weight food. If you plan to stay and hold your ground, get anything with a year shelf life
>>81249358
It tasted like oatmeal and was crap...he shipped it full of roaches because he had shite quality control.
>>81248003
>the fuck you gonna do with gold when everyone is getting shot?
Bait
>>81249196
>birdshot
Hunting with a shotgun during SHTF makes no sense whatsoever, but otherwise I agree.
>>81246880
This. Another good trade item are practical skills as well. If you're a medic then you're essentially indispensable to everyone around you.
>>81246880
>Bic lighters and .22LR ammo
Who needs that shit during the happening? Batteries would be way more valuable
>>81249738
it does where I live. freaking ducks and geese everywhere.
>>81248330
or sometimes dig a well AND boil water
>>81248003
>people literally think a collapse will be nothing but a nationwide free for all with guns
>>81241241
fuck precious metal, that meme is fucking stupid. When shit hits the fan people want food, water, medicine, and ammunition. precious metals and stones will be worthless.
>>81249470
Unless you know how to use a stick and a shoestring to start a fire I would imagine a lighter being a hot ticket
>>81247285
This.
Bugging out is a last resort, and should preferably be to another known safe location.
Trying to live on the run will probably end badly.
>>81249470
>Bosnian guy who was describing being under blocade
>>81249633
What, did you think it was supposed to taste good? It's called "Soylent" not "Ambrosia". It's point was as something for long-term survival, not as casual food.
This thread is interesting as fuck. I wish I had a bunker like in the movie 10 Cloverfield Lane. John Goodman was fucking SET.
>>81247814
>Jim Bakker is a guy who sells food buckets to Evangelical types. He makes a lot of money selling crappy food to apocalypse wanting Evangelicals.
These people are horrible! This must be a regional thing, I've never seen or heard of them. They're claiming they have 15+ years of food but their audience 1.) doesn't look like they'll live that long and 2.) I doubt they have evidence to back up that claim.
>I don't know what Tim and Eric show is.
It's a Cartoon Network show that's equally ridiculous (but intentionally so.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHWb6U2s2U
>>81246974
That's to replace salts lost through swear, you're not gonna be put on saline if you fist down salt packets
>>81249782
>SHTF and some retard from /pol/ is sitting in his bunker licking a 9 volt
Electricity has no nutrients in it, you're better off getting food.
>>81249249
thanks for the views senpai. maybe i should clarify i live in the bay area CA. who would you want me to save?
>>81249840
It's more that it requires you to put a round that's shitty for defense into your gun, make a bunch of noise, and use a relatively heavy/large/spendy cartridge to take game.
Hunting in SHTF makes more sense as an opportunistic endeavor, for 99% of people. Trapping makes more sense than active hunting, which would be very dangerous.
>>81247817
>Just be sure to install them from the inside not the outside.
Ah, OK. The pic I replied to had them on the outside.
>>81249782
batteries expire after a certain period of time
if you really want to prepare for a disaster, buy solar powered or dynamo powered electronic items that aren't cheap.
>>81249738
>Birds hot useless for hunting
Well I don't know about that. If you live further north bird hunting can provide a lot of food. Depends on where you live.
>>81249404
it's nig, spic or cuck around here senpai. (yay area califonria) only a few of us good ol' boys left.
>>81241036
Buy spam. Last 4 years and mudslimes won't eat it.
dear /k/ what is a good vessel for carrying water?
>>81249932
If any of these fags were serious they would be creating ways to MAKE food, water, medicine, and ammo. You're thinking right anon. Have a pleasant night.
>>81246416
Gold is just a store of wealth if the government regains stability.
It's not really meant as a barter tool.
Money=worthless paper
Gold=exchanged for more paper when it's worth something.
>>81250048
Yeah. I was bummed they made him a degenerate in that movie.
>>81241036
>all that free time
>how many push ups fill the void?
>how many miles per day do you run?
>how much reading have you done to acquire knowledge?
>how long to you hold your hand above open flame, just to see what you can take?
You think a rifle from Gander mountain and a few cans of ravioli are what will make the difference?
The essentials are free
>stamina
>a plan
>a level head
No more excuses
>>81250322
Hunting in general is dangerous in all but the truly rural places, post-SHTF
>>81249590
>get anything with a year shelf life
I've eaten Potato Buds that were 2+ years past their expiration date and they were fine.
Most modern day processed food will last well beyond their marked expiration dates; your nose is enough to tell you if it's bad.
Okay.
Put your money where your mouth is /pol/.
Let's see some preps.
This is part of mine.
>>81250388
thanks anon, also checked
>>81249936
>light one fire and keep it going
>sell all lighters
i have one cigerette always buring and light another one with it before it goes out so i never have to buy jew fire again.
>>81247870
>If you can afford it, get roll-down window shutters.
That seems like a good solution.
Crank radio/flashlight/usb charger.
Good for listening for happenings on radio, charging things with crank etc.
>>81246950
Is palm oil what you use when you touch yourself?
>>81250377
camel pac
>>81250084
WINNER!!!
>>81240381
Food that can keep you hydrated with as little salt content as you can possibly get.
Also, have water on hand.
>>81250328
Agreed.
>>81250317
just put the batteries in the freezer until you need them. i had to buy a spare freezer for all mine.
>>81249470
it was lighters and medicine, i think soap was mentioned also
>>81250446
I feel like he was more of an autist than a degenerate. Unless you mean his weird infatuation with having a daughter.
do water bottles actually expire?
>>81248585
Put all that in a Nutri-Bullet and you get a protein smoothie in a fraction of the time.
>>81250151
to each his own. I have roughly 1000 rounds of 12 and 20 #8 shot on hand since I shoot sporting clays on the regular, and I'm literally surrounded by game birds for half the year.
>>81250569
I've debated getting a HAM setup but anything beyond 2m/70cm is really expensive and requires a huge antenna. I feel like it's of somewhat dubious usefulness in SHTF anyhow unless you have a network of others that have radios as well.
>>81250964
I had an old russian coworker tell me that he would visit poor areas as a young man and "girls would suck dick for a bar of soap."
>>81241036
>>81248261
Yeah I know that feel bro. I am gonna be dorming in a month or 2 and be really far away from home.
I also don't drive.
I read shit like this and it pisses me off>>81242051
I have been unemployed for 10 months while getting little side jobs that pay shit and never lead to anything. Paying down a school bill for 2000$.
You can't just get a good job that pays a living wage out of the blue. And
>get better job
Most jobs are asking for a bachelors degree even to be considered and those are paying shit wages too. Hell I even applied for them because I believed the qualifications were to much for what most of the time was a simple job.
Its not "easy"
If it was I wouldn't be getting loans to pay for school instead of going the work as I go Route.
>>81247935
it's soya and lentils
...
AND PEOPLE!!
>>81250549
I'd like to have them but I assume they're expensive, as there are only a couple of houses I've seen with them and they were only the south side windows (to save on A/C costs in the summer).
>>81250084
>>81250317
We discussed what could work as a trade item. It's not like we could use bottle caps anymore, but batteries may be needed by many. Of course .223 and 9mm ammo would be very valuable for trade as well.
>>81251042
Water does not expire, it can however become contaminated. Plastic bottles can leach into the water over time and make it taste funny. There might be some other long term health effects if you have bpa plastic bottles, but that's isn't really a concern in a crisis.
>>81249782
These will be useless if its an emp.
>>81239884
Can goods
>>81248144
regular household bleach. also there is an additive that adds oxygen, specifically for this purpose.
>>81239884
Bullets
Take your neighbors shit
How long can I reliably store water? What kind of container should I use?
is being fat during a happening an advantage? i mean you can afford to starve often. but at the same time a medial issue may arise and youd have trouble outrunning raiders
>>81248780
>They're expensive but really no more than like McDonalds.
might aswell get mcdonalds then
>>81251042
>do water bottles actually expire?
Yes faggot.
After a certain amount of time, the plastic molecules rearrange and make BPA's, which dissolve into the water. That shit will give you cancer.
In case you didn't know, having cancer is a bad thing to get when surgery and chemotherapy isnt a thing anymore.
>>81249932
Agreed. Metals and stones only have value when we place said value on it. If SHTF people would not put value in shit they can not use to survive.
>>81250416
>Gold is just a store of wealth if the government regains stability.
Who is to say that will even happen? The number one concern during a SHTF scenario, would be survival. I don't think it's practical to have to babysit your gold the whole time.
Also, I don't think that after stability is regained, people will go "oh, he has gold, let's build a house for him, let's give him lots of food." The economy will be reset to factory zero for everyone, and nobody will care that you carried gold around for a few years or whatever.
>>81251120
Unless you have no neighbors for miles, they'll hear the shots when you hunt. And to go hunting requires that you leave your defended area, which also makes anyone staying at your homestead less safe, since you're splitting up from them.
As for the tool, I think suffering with .22LR for hunting most small/medium game makes a lot more sense. Quieter, cheaper, lighter, much easier to carry in addition to a capable fighting rifle, compared to a shotgun. You might have to wait for a still shot, but the advantages are extreme.
>>81250322
Something you USbros forget about. Crossbows + Air Rifles.
A cheap as fuck air rifle, an 10 tins of pellets will give you small game hunting for years to come. Anything bigger, use a decent pull crossbow, and you have a reusable, silent, deer killer.
I still wish I had an AR or Nugget though :(
>>81251502
McDonald's can't operate when SHIT HITS THE FAN
Is there anything that won't go bad ever? I don't want to be like Dwight in that episode of The Office where he's eating all of his soon-to-expire prepper shit
>>81251510
So storing water in metal canisters would be better in a long run?
>>81249412
metal buckets are harder for vermin to chew through, or trashcans
>>81251120
Thats true but the radio usefulness imo is really in the event of a regime change or return of power. I imagine if some kind of infrastructure were to be put in place radio signals would be the first thing up. There are also many uses for a crank operated usb charger like for clocks or burners and the like.
>>81251709
Broadheads and shafts cost as much as a small pile of rifle ammo, though, and you can actually get entry level rifles for less than a lot of crossbows.
>>81239884
Canned food is the way to go. It doesn't need to be light weight unless you plan on running around with it which you shouldn't. You'll defend your home and as long as you have space to stockpile food it should be no problem.
I like spam even though it's high in sodium. A little meat goes a long way compared to shit like canned corn or chef boyardee, won't get you full on one can. Jars of peanut butter/jams pack a punch to fight off hunger as well.
Stockpile toilet paper, lighters, cheap alcohol can be used to burn and other useful items that can be traded.
Lastly, guns and ammo. What good is having food if it's stolen from you by gun point and you have no way of defending what little you have?
>>81247870
Those seem really expensive. A cheap alternative is those metal screen doors, I have an extra one in my backyard. I'd prop it against the front windows (on the inside) for some protection in a gun fight along with some plywood behind it. It's not going to stop everything but it should be sufficient.
>>81251709
>use a decent pull crossbow, and you have a reusable, silent, deer killer
Good luck tracking down a wounded deer for hours
>>81251128
>get job
he didn't say get dream job making 6 figures
>get a shitty job
>keep shitty job
congrats now you can try for less shitty job! it's gonna be work and it will probably suck, but it's a start.
>>81251787
dirt, anon
dirt never goes bad
eat dirt
????
profit
>>81244822
26 years
>>81251413
damn near forever in well sealed opaque plastic containers.
it's smart to store powdered pool shock for purifying water if you think it's at all questionable. they sell it at wal mart for next to nothing. it's effectively powdered bleach, it converts to a Cl- ion and some other shit upon contact with water, and it has an unlimited shelf life.
for camping I use this shit called polar pure. It's a vial of iodine pellets that you fill with water. Lasts thousands upon thousands of gallons.
http://www.backdoorsurvival.com/how-to-use-pool-shock-to-purify-water/
https://www.amazon.com/Polar-Pure-Iodine-Purifier-Sterilizes/dp/B00N5AGT1Q
>>81239884
Make some hard tack. It's super easy to make, cheap as dirt and lasts as long as you can keep the moisture and bugs out. A batch of hard tack you make right now will still be edible at the end of your lifetime.
You'll need other foods as well because you can't survive forever on hard tack by itself but it's one of the most reliable rations you can have.
>>81251817
Copper, sterling silver, stainless steel, yes. There are also bpo free plastics. I think nalgene makes some extra large safe plastic containers for fluids
>>81250524
nice stash.
I don't have anything :(
>>81251787
see >>81242967
You want to rotate your preps.
Buy when you already eat and rotate them.
>>81248780
>Mountain Home
>$15 for 6 oz of canned apples.
>$30 for 1 lb of canned chicken
>>81251959
Maybe you didn't read but even getting a shitty job is hard to do these days.
>>81251510
bpa free bottles from winco. like 2 bucks a case.
buy lots of rice, barrel them up and buy some chicken broth powder. It is dense in calories and cheap to collect.
>>81251120
Build a dipole...it's literally a wire you run along roof or in rain gutter. Practically invisible.
>>81249497
>I live in NW Montana
So I see from your IP anon.Expect a visit
>>81251936
>Canned food is the way to go. It doesn't need to be light weight unless you plan on running around with it which you shouldn't.
If you're in a static location, you'll have access to water, or die. So, if we assume you have access to water, the advantages of canned food are meaningless, and they last like 1/8 as long as dry food, or less. Not to mention way more expensive per calorie than dry grains/beans.
I don't think wasting money on TP makes a lot of sense compared to a cloth and shock mixture. If you must have paper, try to collect the phonebooks that everyone throws away anymore. Crinkle the sheets and smooth them out 2-3 times and it becomes soft enough to wipe with.
>>81241690
worst option available, really.
>>81250503
True. I do have the benefit of living in the northwestern front.
>Open land
>Strong community bonds
>Strong gun culture and anti government sentiments
>Abundance of survivalists, hunters, veterans, etc
>Mountain folks who can easily teach newcomers how to live of the land
>90% white, even the minorities out here are pretty based
>Local militias would destroy any lefties
Feels pretty good desu
>>81250524
Where do you buy a can rack like that?
>>81252062
Thanks anon. I'm gonna make it through The Great Happening. If it happens.
>>81251943
>track wounded deer for hours
>food for weeks
Thats how humankind has hunted for millenia. No man can beat a deer in a 100 yd sprint, but nearly any man can beat a deer in a 10 mile span. We are far more efficient than them with calories.
>>81240381
Both would be good
>>81251502
>>They're expensive but really no more than like McDonalds.
>might aswell get mcdonalds then
>>81249782
>Who needs that shit during the happening?
Yeah, who would need to light a fire?
What are you going to do, boil water or something?
>>81239884
>Food storage.
>not maintaining seeds and a functioning garden @ your bugout location
Its like you want to only last a few months or something.
>>81249176
>Only two ingredients in the stuff I buy: peanuts and salt.
me too m8 but follow the comment tree
>>81241248
>cheap store brand peanut butter, those big jars are like 6 bucks. not healthy but calories out the ass.
>>81241397
>Peanut butter is pretty healthy.
>>81246950
>not when it's full of HFCS and palm oil
hope that helps and welcome to 4chan new friend!
>>81251334
Yes it is. Last thing you want is a bunch of estrogen doped people depending on you while they turn gay.
>>81251817
They sell water barrels made of food-grade plastic which wont degrade over time.
Or you could just go fill up your bathtub and add a teaspoon of bleach per 10 gallons to sterilize it.
>>81241241
you completely forgot medicine and hygenics.
Antibiotics are king.
>>81252350
It's less a question of capability than it is of safety.
Can you afford to leave your homestead for hours to track an animal? You're alone (or pulling more people from the homestead), separated, and will be at a severe disadvantage dragging the deer back.
Dedicated hunting is extremely dangerous in SHTF, because of other humans.
>>81252330
Remember that the vast majority of people are still non-preppers. When they get hungry, and especially if they see their kids/wives getting hungry, they'll be willing to kill you for food/supplies. Be safe.
>>81252350
>food for weeks
Nah, you won't be able to prep, move and freeze all the meat by yourself during the happening times
>>81252717
>drinking bleach
>>81252342
The shelves you should be able to get at a restaurant supply store or Costco/Sams. The can rack where they look like they roll downward I haven't seen before, maybe it's a grocery store fixture?
>>81252099
Just start small bro. Extra can of broth or soup when they are on sale. Just 1 extra item per trip to the store will start to build up.
>>81252342
The black ones are "Shelf Reliance" set up for #10 cans. They are nice because they load on one level then roll back to the level below it. That way you are always taking the oldest can. Makes keeping the food rotated and in date much easier.
>>81252592
>not maintaining seeds and a functioning garden @ your bugout location
>>81252816
>not knowing there is chlorine in your tap water
>>81248585
>Milky bean fried rice?
topkek
>>81250464
>>all that free time
>>how many push ups fill the void?
>>how many miles per day do you run?
None. You will burn calories. Run if you have to.
Books are a great idea. I collect old textbooks and how to books
>>81253048
Is it just about concentration?
>>81252816
it works, I've done it numerous times. with fresh bleach it's 2-3 drops per liter.
the problem with liquid bleach is that it goes bad in about 3 months if it's opened, or 6 months if it's sealed. the chlorine gas leaches out. That's why I'd recommend pool shock, boiling, or some form of iodine.
>>81250544
>one cigerette
time to quit after shtf, anon
At that concentration, it's less chlorinated than your average swimming pool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxTG1mucfs
wow
>>81252566
>Yeah, who would need to light a fire?
What is a fire striker?
>>81239884
Peanut butter, honey, MREs, rice/pasta, jerky, hardtack
If you live innawoods you should know how to hunt, trap and forage. If you don't, don't attract attention to your home and bug in with weapons, clean water and food
>>81248585
>beans and rice
>bread, pancakes and tortillas from the wheat
>oatmeal from the oats
>milk
It'll keep you alive, but it won't be fun. You'll develop severe nutrient deficiencies within 2 or 3 years, most likely.
>>81250549
I would worry about it looking to barricaded. It is also important to blend in and not look like you have something worth taking.
>>81239884
sure
>>81246974
>.9% sodium
Anon, please. Dehydration fucks your electrolytes, and can cause heart and neurological problems.
Salt is good for you in moderate amounts, especially iodized.
If you can get ahold of lactated ringers, all the better.
t. Ems.
wouldn't martial law be declared state by state or would it be nationwide?
>>81253575
>lactated ringers
what are these?
>>81253497
if someone has metal roll down window thingies i'm gonna assume he is prepped and has guns. not many gonna try to fuck with that. just light the house on fire and wait.
>>81253575
>lactated ringers
thought it said lactating niggers. was like wow this guy is prepared.
>>81239884
5 gallon bucket, line with plastic (garbage bag works fine) fill to brim with rice. it will feed 1 person for 3 months at maximum (200 calories/day) and will store for 5-10 years.
dont bother with all these expensive options, just go to a farmers market/asian market and buy in bulk. you just need something (better than nothing)... have it last forever... and be able to properly ration it (will power) to give bare minimum daily intake to prevent starvation.
>>81253168
cheeky lass
>>81253750
>just light the house on fire and wai
This is what I'm worried about.
Gonna need a real big water tank and a firefighting pump.
>>81253880
>200 calories/day
>store for 5-10 years
you're an idiot
>>81252342
ikea
>>81253875
>lactating niggers
cows produce more, eat less, and smell better.
It's fun to fantasize about SHTF scenarios, but realistically, it would never happen that way.
Individual people aren't going to all hole up in their own personal bomb shelters and eat dehydrated scrambled eggs until the supplies run out and the vault door has to open.
Survivors are going to come together very quickly and form civilized societies again, working together to procure what they need. It's simply much more efficient when you have enough people that they can specialize jobs again.
After all, with no civilization, no entertainment no good food or no human interaction, what the fuck is the point of living anyway? Just eat a bullet at that point.
>>81247316
Soylent is only good for a year.
I looked into it and tried it. Seemed like an interesting way to get the most nutrients for your buck if you can find a better way to store it.
Not sure if the 1 year shelf life is just a preferred "eat by" date with little consequence, or if it actually goes rancid. I've got a few bags that are a little older than a year and a half. I plan on opening after 3 years and seeing what happens.
Opened one just now and it seems uniform and not fucked in any way.
I have a backpack, swimsuit, a multi-tool knife and a flash light (with batteries I think).
What else do I need to survive an Australian happening?
Yeah batteries don't have a long shelf life, they constantly go bad.
A good one is those solar garden lights. Most likely the power grid will be down and nights are when you will be the most vulnerable. People will try to light candles which is dangerous. Even if you don't need them now, it still saves money on electricity to see around your home with the power of solar. Imagine having to go to the bathroom at night or you hear some noise. Batteries won't last long for flashlights to be useful for over 2-3 years. I would get a lantern before a flashlight. My nice flashlight lasts maybe 4-5 hours? Not even a full night. But most lanterns have low modes and can stay on for more than 8 hours. I found out the hard way after a scheduled power outage.
>>81253411
Beans need water to soak in before you can cook them.
>>81254286
dunno mate, emus are fucking vicious
>>81254237
>Soylent
>most nutrients for your buck
Go back to /g/, Soylent is fucking retarded.
To the people concerned about gun noise: When you shoot, that's probably more likely to scare people away than it is to attract them. And after using your gun, you could just be alert for a while. If someone tries to hunt you down, they only have a general idea of where you are, but you are more familiar with your environment, so you have the advantage.
>>81253497
In "I Am Legend", the shutters were on the inside to give that effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AnDTLGs98k
>>81254208
these things aren't mutually exclusive, though
if you store a shit ton of food you're still going to be better off
>>81253411
What about storing artificial vitamin pills ?
>>81254286
Become mad max and jerry-rig up a cool car
>>81252312
Ok, if canned foods last 10 years, and they do unless they're canned tomatoes, then that's long enough for me. I look forward to having beef stew or tuna or soup more than I do rice and beans.
"we tried"
>>81254286
Just come to QLD, you'll be right with that kit.
>>81250018
I highly hope everyone saves that pic and uses it accordingly. Especially guns and ammo first. Without that you are shit out of luck if you have to trade.
>>81253978
Get dozens of cheap fire extinguishers on craigslist.
>>81254462
>In "I Am Legend", the shutters were on the inside to give that effect.
Enjoy the snow, rain and bugs when the glass gets busted...
>>81254648
just make sure it's a HOLDEN MANAAARO, some kind of commodore, or a diesel toyota truck from 1991
>>81254462
Might be a good idea if they are put in on the inside. Hell with some velcro you could put a curtain up between the window and shutter to look like its just a window.
>>81254650
Unless you're rich, it doesn't make any sense.
If you can afford to buy whatever you want, then it's moot. But for 99.9999% of people, having more beans and rice is better than less tomatoes. In the mid to long term, you need a sustainable food source or you'll die, anyway. So increasing your chances of getting to that point is the best option.
>>81254524
This. Plus if you've at least got enough to look after yourself, you're not a burden on your neighbours.
>>81254382
As opposed to the wheat, oats and rice that don't?
It's wise to keep food on hand, but it's kind of crazy to prepare to some post-apocalyptic dystopian hell-hole where water isn't even available.
>>81254462
>when his doggo dies
>>81239884
do you have the capacity to prepare kerns?
>>81252212
>>$30 for 1 lb of canned chicken
Aldis has 12 ounce cans of chicken for $1.79 where I live
>>81254810
Odds are the windows would break either way. The shutters or wood would provide some protection from the cold in northern climates. Best advice would be to live in one room during the winter.
Something I haven't seen mentioned yet, but thought I should add; When things start to turn south, share stuff with your neibors. Don't trade or barter, just give some stuff away. If you got your year supply of preps in rotation, got your metals and guns and ammo and trade items set, if you are good to go and wondering "What's left to get?" Get ready to set up a soup kitchen. Have a folding table or two, some large pots and a ton of powdered soup mix. If things start to look squirrely and people start running low on food, start making people soup and giving it away to anyone who needs it. Don't ask for anything in return other than "No problem man, we gotta look out for each other ya know? Just keep an eye out for us alright?"
Prepping starts looking a lot like hoarding and will turn you into a target, and people will find out sooner or later. Best way to counter that is to get everyone around you on your side at the start by being generous and sharing some of your preps.
>>81254286
Can you get your hands on some Dinki-Di and a blue heeler?
https://youtu.be/GyxTG1mucfs
All you need
>>81254286
Condoms, for your attacker.
>>81252226
Are you saying you can't get hired at McDonalds?
>>81254900
>more beans and rice is better than less tomatoes.
Those beans and rice need water and heat before you can eat them.
You can eat canned foods right out of the can.
>>81251579
I can afford it, and it's better than cash.
There will always be a transition back to order. When that happens, I'll have more wealth.
I'm not saying everyone is going to hail the golden king, but an ounce of gold in a fucked economy will buy you a nice bit of land, if there's any left.
If not, I have some shiny rocks that someone else might value. Like I said, I can afford the chance.
>>81254208
What about the situation in bosnia with the story about the lighters? People are going to fend for themselves first before any "community" help begins. Those with lots of resources will have the most leverage. Beggars cannot be choosers.
Are people forming civilized societies in venuezula when they're having food and toilet paper crisis? Sure they aren't killing each other over food yet but it's every person for themselves first and foremost.
I agree with you that it would be more of a slow decline rather than an overnight happening. But it's better to be prepared than to be stuck going to an emptied out supermarket and having little to no alternative for necessities.
>spend all your time, effort, and money preparing for a statistical anomaly
>die from living a sedentary lifestyle and poor eating habits
Seriously guys... prioritize.
>>81252764
Thats a good point. Which is why the only hunting id do, if any, is the errant rabbit, squirrel, or raccon etc. Additionally, hunting requires sanitation material (personally i wouldnt hunt without an excess of clean water for cleaning flesh, latex gloves for inspecting carcasses, and things like that) and as you said puts you in significant risk. If youre in the alaskan wilderness then go for it but if you are walking a day straight away from your family so they don't starve youve already fucked up.
>>81255298
I never ate anything worse than SPAM.
>>81255428
you're a faggot
>>81254524
>if you store a shit ton of food you're still going to be better off
I completely agree with you there.
But it would also be helpful to make yourself useful to whatever kind of society exists then.
>Can you hunt?
>Do you know how to grow shit?
>Do you know how to build anything?
>Do you know how to repair anything?
>Do you know first aid or CPR?
People will have a much greater reason to keep you around if you can do something for them, rather than being the gloomy fuck that sits around eating all the food and lamenting some kind of shitty Nietschean philosophy
>>81252595
Getting actual information here and not a meme is the ultimate gamble
>>81252753
True, it would be more helpful to let anons know where to legally buy them.
Protip, farmers get tons of antibiotics for their livestock. Try there.
Also, I kinda covered hygiene in my bit about faggy couponing.
You are correct though, I overlooked medicines. You'd be surprised the amount of things benadryl and aspirin can take care of.
>>81255012
>post-apocalyptic dystopian hell-hole where water isn't even available.
I'm in Michigan and we've got water all around us, but you can just dip a bucket in the lake and drink it and once the water in the local water tower runs dry, you won't have any more water pressure in your house.
Wasting water on beans, rice, oats in addition to expending all kinda energy via propane, wood fires (you've got a wood stove, right?...) is the last thing you want to do.
Canned food is already cooked and can be eaten out of the can.
>>81253367
I have those too. The lighters are for trade to folks who are less capable
>>81249431
Dulling a good knife is not a good idea, nor is trying to open a can with a rock. One will damage a weapon and the other may spill precious goods.
Also, can openers can be a good bartering tool.
Im a paraplegic so if anything happens i might as well just kill myself
>>81240987
Nice, adding this to my list.
>>81253733
When there's a serious trauma with massive blood loss, we use lactate ringers.
Basically like blood-lite. Has a lot of useful electrolytes and minerals that help people not go into shock.
Fucking amazing for dehydration and hangovers btw.
Also, if you're worried about massive blood loss and using lactate ringers in a shtf scenario, that person is most likely dead. It's a stop gap to keep them alive once they get to the hospital.
Learn how to stitch.
>>81240215
If you're a goat
>>81255742
Talking on hygiene...honestly I don't think stocking toilet paper is a good idea. I personally made family cloth wipes and have several peri bottles for the family. No matter how much TP you have you will run out someday. I would rather have to just switch to a reusable is things went south.
>>81246289
and Low sodium doesn't CHANGE that. They just replace the sodium with other 'salts'.
Either go salt or no salt. There's no such thing as a low salt item when all they do is replace the sodium with something else.
>>81255102
>The shutters or wood would provide some protection from the cold in northern climates.
Why let your windows get busted in the first place? Just put some plywood over them.
>>81255742
several antibiotics are both readily available via the internet as fish tank treatments. It's expensive, the smarter thing to do is make friends with a doctor who can RX or sample you them. I have a handful of z-pak samples that I got from my boss.
>>81254402
The powder is cheap and I bought it to see if it's any good.
Currently testing shelf life and stability. I have a few packs in different conditions to determine how fucked they get after three years, and one control left at room temp.
Stop being a faggot. I'm doing science.
>>81251197
They are more common in areas that get tornadoes and such. Most people don't see a need in getting them.
I'm in the southern tip of Texas, so I can't get a basement cheap. I'm thinking about these shutters, but not much happens here. The worst crime here is burglary, but not murder or such things. Even if a huge HAPPENING happened, it wouldn't hurt us down here :P
>>81256076
Get good at telling stories and hosting games. Stock up on books and /tg/ games, kids books and toys as well. Volunteer to look after kids and keep them happy.
There has been and will always be a place for people who can lift the spirits of others.
>>81256288
You don't want your house to look barricaded. You don't want to look like something is inside worth taking. Honestly if shit happened put the barricade on the inside. Toss shit all over your front and back yards. Make your house look like it was already raided.
>>81253880
>200 calories/day
Just add another 1000 calories and you're good to go unless you're a guy and you'll need 300 more
>>81256610
id rather die than spend time with little cunts and play board games they might as well learn survival skills and toughen up, leave kids to women
>>81254208
>no entertainment no good food or no human interaction
I've got food and water and tons of books from estate sales and my wife (weak link there)
>>81256166
You can do the Roman sponge on a stick.
Personally I just steal perineum cleanser from random nursing homes and emergency rooms. I've got about 16 gallons in those tiny spray bottles.
>>81239884
Where are good deals on nightvision products.
>>81254051
>not knowing the rule of thirds with food rationing
you can survive on that amount of calories which is the point. you probably imagine a comfy 3 meals a day kind of existence? dried grains and beans can last up to 20-30 years in dry conditions (with descants). you wouldnt last a week creampuff.
>>81252566
For what it's worth, you can light a fire with a 9V battery.
>>81254286
>and a flash light (with batteries I think).
Read that as fleshlight. You'll be fine
>>81256659
Very smart
>>81256443
This is good too. I'm just worried about shelf life. Long term prevention by good hygiene seems to be the best course.
Also, I hope there aren't any diabetics. Most insulin requires refrigeration.
>>81255131
Yeah let's reward people for being unprepared cunts and enable everyone. You give people an inch of something free they will ask for a mile and want more and more. That might fly in your homogenous white suburban neighborhoods but that won't fly anywhere with ghetto blacks and hispanics While they are enjoying your soup, they will be scheming and wondering what other nice food you have that you are keeping to yourself. Greed is second nature. Better off to keep to yourself and do small trading when you can because eventually you'll run out of supplies and your neighbors won't give one fuck about you starving to death (even if you fed them once upon a time).
>>81256674
>not knowing the rule of thirds
>ignorant of rationing methods
>expecting to have full nutritional requirements
>eating all your food in a few days and dying
wew, are all my fellow burgers gluttons?
>>81256963
Found the real life Patches O' Houlihan...
>>81257006
I am going with peri bottle and family rags as I also have cloth diapers (babies). While I no longer have young children you never know what could happen or if someone would need them. The sponge would be a okay idea but I don't trust my kids to clean it and rags are easier to clean.
>>81255742
Pet store.
>>81256443
anti-biotics are very cheap and easy to obtain as fish moxy, same stuff.
Stockpile soap, deodorant, razors, and tampons and trade that shit for anything, unless you want your dystopian future to be full of smelly hairy women with blood-soaked pants
>>81257531
I'm telling you man, get yourself or your SO into couponing.
I'm sitting on 83 boxes of baby wipes right now. All free.
>>81256659
>You don't want your house to look barricaded.
This ain't Hollywood and you ain't got a secret hidden bug-out cabin inna woods.
You ain't going to "hide" from anybody, the goal is to protect your shit and encourage niggers to go loot someone else.
>>81256659
you'll be the first to get raided by your neighbors
>>81255298
And if you don't have a constant source of water, you're going to die anyway.
And the only situation that would merit waterless preparation -- travel -- also makes no sense for cans, because of weight.
Wet cans suck for all things food prep-related.
>>81257848
What website does your lady use? Mine was into dollar tree couponing but did not seem worth it.
>>81257724
A girlfriend/wife who is an extreme couponer is a prepper's wet dream.
Still dumb as a box of rocks, but goddamn that lady can pay $4 for 60 gallons of detergent.
>>81254900
>Unless you're rich, it doesn't make any sense.
I'm far from rich but I can buy a couple of cases of canned goods a week to put in a closet(just in case).
I buy stuff I'll actually eat and will rotate it out when it gets to 5 years. You'd be surprised how cheap it is if you're not planning on hiking across the country. I have some guns for hunting and am planning an air rifle for small game. My well can be hand operated and the river is less than a mile away.
Why would I leave?
Anybody keep a suture kit? I have a first aid bag but haven't found a decent suture kit. Any other medical supplies beyond the basics to consider?
>>81257111
are americans truly this ignorant, lazy, and dependent on tech?
>>81257043
I expect long days of hard calorie-draining work, especially at the beginning. I plan my food preps accordingly, and if your survival plan is a starvation ration, you're an idiot. Rationing in an emergency is different than plan A, and your plan A is a logical man's plan Z.
New thread? I've been lurking and I'm pretty curious about this...
>>81255979
Canned food takes up a lot of space and is more expensive. Obviously there are pros and cons for each, ideally you should diversify your survival supplies as much as possible.
random protip: whole grain wheat stores practically forever, while flour will quickly go bad. So get a grinder and learn to cultivate wild yeasts, and you will be eating delicious bread as you contemplate suicide when everyone you know and love is dead.
>>81239884
Activated almonds are a must.
>>81257926
the first house to get burned down
>>81258058
I think it's a couponing app, ibotta. There's another where you buy certain things on a list, take pictures of the barcodes, and get free money. Other than that, hop on couponing Facebook pages. Local ones are good because you can see local sales in stores and legally rob them blind of all their shampoo, bodywash, tampons, etc.
>>81258055
>Wet cans suck for all things food prep-related.
Unless you're bugging in with a water supply
>>81258035
>>81257926
How so? My neighbors think I am a poor as fuck now. Look up gray man concept. Its the only way you are going to survive and not be killed by your neighbors.
>>81253411
>>81254605
That "basic" supply is too basic. Obviously nobody in their right mind would think that is a proper way to eat for a year. Canned fish and vegetables
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