So /pol/,
How do people abuse food stamps to buy alcohol and drugs when all they can purchase is food and cooking materials? It's not like they can walk into a store, grab a case of beer and pay for it with food stamps and yet /pol/ thinks you can buy booze and drugs with stamps. When will this meme end?
>>81233514
b8 thread
they exchange them and sell them to eachother you stupid fuck
>>81233695
>thinks food stamps are actual stamps
stamps + crime. they use the stamps for cheetos and the crime for other things.
>>81233514
A lot of those Indian quicky Marts will give you cash for EBT, because it's the same to a business owner.
This is a distraction.
>>81214757
>>81233514
https://youtu.be/0aWkcI_F04I
>>81233514
>2016
>being poor
KYS
>>81233514
Alcohol has food value anon
>>81233514
I use food stamps, ask me anything
>>81235655
How do you buy beer?
>>81235162
noted.
>>81233514
There are two main ways...
1) straight up fraud, by 'selling' the benefit dollars to an unscrupulous merchant. Basically they 'buy' $10 worth of stuff with benefits, but don't get it. Instead the merchant gives them $5 (or whatever the rate is) cash.
2) Buying stuff that they don't need with the benefits, and then either selling or bartering it.
>>81235921
you don't.
>>81234600
He's right. I used to be involved with that bunch. They pass that shit around. Why does the government have to be responsible for grown ass adults. It should only be the physically and mentally handicapped who receive benefits.
>tfw food stamps don't exist here
>>81235921
I don't drink.
It's impossible to buy it without selling your EBT card and exploiting the system given to you.
Grocery stores, particularly in low income areas, will essentially buy ebt benefits for cash. They get full credit on the ebt, and the people get unrestricted funds for their ebt.
This is of course highly illegal but it happens all the time. Vietnamese market got busted a few years back by me because they got careless and were doing all their credits at the same time.
American on vacation so disregard flag.
>>81233514
Have you ever hold of something called... bartering, OP?
They have EBT cards. They stand out in front of stores and try to offer people to pay for their food with the card then you pay them cash outside the store, at a lot less than what the food is worth. Then they have cash for alcohol/listerine and drugs.
>>81236747
>bartering
do you even know what this word means?
>>81236015
>1) straight up fraud, by 'selling' the benefit dollars to an unscrupulous merchant. Basically they 'buy' $10 worth of stuff with benefits, but don't get it. Instead the merchant gives them $5 (or whatever the rate is) cash.
This anon understands how it works. I lived in a black neighborhood and you'd always have niggers hanging out at the nearest grocery store trying to sell their food stamps. (or, at the end of the month, trying to buy them because they sold their earlier in the month and have none left)
>>81236227
>country where welfare queens come from doesn't have food stamps
Lies.
>>81234600
You can just buy food and then trade it. Have you never had a welfare leech try to sell you food outside the supermarket for less than you pay inside? I have. They don't care that they're getting less than 100% conversion, they just want the cash to buy drugs.
>>81235921
I e had a guy offer me 30$ food stamps for 25$ cash. He was in line behi me at ten am with a six pack
>>81234600
>>81233695
dam you guys are fucking stupid.
You just need to find a store willing to accept them and lie on what was purchased and exchanged them for cash or something else. The Feds recently crack down on a major food stamp fraud at a fish market in a flea market near where I lived. What was happening was you pretend to buy fish and they gave you cash. I actually recall visiting that fish market before, it barely even had any fish.
>>81237014
That's a bad deal. The going rate is usually 2:1. 10 dollars of food sells for 5 dollars cash, although it fluctuates depending on how recently payday was.
>>81236227
They do dumbass, is just dont have the same name, and are usually temporary programs
>>81233514
Obviously, you've never been to an inner-city food store where fraud runs rampant.
Oh yeah, you may also be choosing to ignore how many people sell their EBT cards for straight cash at a loss, where they then take that money and blow it on booze, smokes, drugs, etc.
Stupid fucking liberal, just because you choose to remain ignorant of obvious fraud does not mean it doesn't exist. We hear about cases in Milwaukee all the time where ghetto grocers let people buy booze and smokes with EBT but ring them up as something totally different, which goes to show that even the nigs and the store owners are smarter than your average white leftist.
>>81236953
We do have, an politicians usually use them to buy votes
>>81236876
Do you?
https://www.google.com/search?q=bartering&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>exchange (goods or services) for other goods or services without using money.
>buy in demand staple items
>trade staple items for booze or drugs
Easy. You never bought an oz. with a bunch of jugs of Tide, brah?
>>81236981
This. I worked at a grocery store for a while when I lived in South Dakota and we called the cops pretty regularly on injuns trying that shit outside the store.
>>81233514
R u a kid, black or dumb?
>>81237637
>people sell their EBT cards
then how do they get the next months money?
>>81237502
Where the fuck do you live nigga? I've never seen em'
>tfw my coworker doesn't tell her wic officer that she recieves bonuses at the job and that the (ex)husband with new masters degree she supposedly is seperated from got a new apartment just down the street from her
>gets $500 free money monthly for her 5+ kids + plus stamps and $10000 a year in tax returns
why are poor people so conniving?
So my family used to run a pawn shop in nigger town. Here's how it happened -
They would wait outside for a white blue collar worker to either pawn or sell some shit to feed his family. They would go to a grocery store and the gibsme would sell his card temporally at a 2:1 exchange rate. Once the items were purchased he would give the card back to the black guy, who was waiting outside in case someone said something like "Why does the name on this card say Dantrella Bo'Qulakcka?" which never once happened. Then darkie would go buy drugs, or (hopefully) some other niggers pawned rims that we were selling at a 200% mark up.
Once again, a naive libcuck is destroyed by reality. What's next OP? Why don't you ask how niggers get guns to shoot each other with when they live in cities where guns are banned?
What's the point of selling your food stamps? You still need food to survive. If you somehow exchange them for alcohol, then you'll have to spend your own money on food.
>>81233514
Ever live in a poor area? On the first of every month I can go and buy food stamps for .70c on the dollar infront of every grocery store.
>>81238630
That's why you suck a dick for a double cheeseburger.
>>81237014
No he didnt. $25 entry is worth like $15 cash. ebt is nothing special to trade $30 for $25 ebt that's just stupid.
>>81237809
There's a black market for Tide. Asians go apeshit for it, but I don't know why.
>>81238089
In a lot of areas, benefits are given out on what is basically a prepaid credit card. You get a new one next month.
>>81234600
They were in most areas, until the mid 80s.
>>81238630
Some folks would rather have booze than food. And it really isn't that hard to scam the system, and get stamps even when you are quite capable of feeding yourself.
>>81238630
thats what the art of mugging is for
>>81238630
Trust me, they don't think that far ahead. Once they can't find food they break into some other niggers house and steal shit to pawn it.
>>81238089
>Go to store with guy who has EBT card
>Get groceries
>Guy with EBT card pays with EBT card
>Give him half of the costs as cash
>Walk out
>>81238630
They live off cheap juice and potatoes near the end of the month.
>>81233514
I used to slang food stamps back in 2004. They accidently put more benefits than they were supposed to on an EBT card i had at the time. Since i'm oldschool, food stamps were sold for 50% cash value. In other words $50 USD got you $100 in food stamps, $500 USD for $1000 in food stamps, etc. This started back when Food Stamps were made out of paper.
Unfortunately I didn't use the cash for alcohol and shit. I used the cash for things i couldn't afford at the time. Now a days 12 years later i hear food stamp recipients are selling their food stamps for more money. Recently some base head try to slang me $200 in food stamps benefits for $150 USD. How fucking times have changed.
>>81238580
How do they get guns?
I live in a pretty shitty neighbor. We usually have the designated "candy lady" the nigletts buy candy slashed down from. Generally, people go to the grocery store, buy goods, and sell them in either their neighborhood or in front of the store heavily discounted. It isn't a 1:1 ratio for SNAP to cash, much lower, but you can still monetize it.
>>81238630
Also, there are food banks and other charities that will give you free food too.
Jesus Christ, this thread perfectly represents /pol/s knowledge.
They bring 2 shopping carts in the store, 1 for ebt food, and the other for unqualified items (alcohol)
They buy everything they need with stamps, and save the rest of their money from hustling to buy alcohol.
It's quite simple but /pol/ is absolutely retarded.
>>81238630
That's what soup kitchens are for.
>>81239750
They steal them.
>>81233514
>buy food for someone else with your card
>they give you cash
>you buy heroin
My junkie ex did shit like this all the time
>>81238630
Imagine a family of 4, 3 niglets in school getting free lunch and backpacks of food for the weekend. The mammy going to the food bank for unlimited free food. Some jew offers you $400 for your $550 in benefits
>>81240025
Was it good heroin?
>>81240466
I couldn't tell you, alcohol was always my vice
Some states have EBT cards that neetbux are also loaded onto along with food stamps
>>81233514
>Be me
>Have food stamps
>Stand near self-checkout
>Look for my mark
>Offer to purchase food for 2/3rd's the price for cash
>Now I have about $50 to get buy some beer
pretty nigger tier but whatevs
>>81240466
Once your hooked, any kind of heroin is good heroin. Ex junkie here. AMA
>>81233514
They buy food and cooking material with food stamps and booze and other useless shit with their cash.
t. Cashier in coontown
>>81239835
I got a part time job at McDonald's and quit after my first pay check just so I can use the paystub to get food bank baskets. They are pretty decent and actually have lots of fresh produce.
>>81233514
They either sell the goods directly, this is often done with high end baby formula with WIC and with whatever for food stamps. Or they find someone looking to get food for cheap and offer them the a transaction of say, $100 off the EBT card for 60 bucks in cash. The person goes in and goes shopping, then returns the card after the purchase.
>>81240931
How long are your track marks?
>>81233514
mostly Hispanics tend to fill barrels together and send them to the mother land to sell.
>>81240931
How'd you get clean? I'm still in touch with her and would like to pass some information along.
>>81233514
>Ey, my nigga....sniff....I can pay for your groceries, nigga if you get me a case of Colt .45
You get him the liquor
>Ey, thanks, nigga. You a real brother
You refuse
>Racis muthafuga
>>81236953
That makes sense, though. If your country doesn't have welfare but you absolutely hate working, you are going to expat to a nation where you can welfare leech.
Depending on who you sell them to, you usually give the card to someone and they give you half the value in cash. Most bodegas and other shady places that buy them will ring up a "general goods" type item priced at a custom value so the payment goes through their system, then they give the customer cash out of the register. It's not a very good hustle honestly, just sell drugs instead.
>>81233514
sheltered baby doesn't understand how people abuse government aid
niggas and drug users sell their food stamp cards to other poorfags in exchange for cash
???
profit!
By the way, low-class scum abusing government entitlements isn't a meme you stupid newfriend.
when will newfriends stop pretending they know how 4chan operates and just fucking lurk more?
>>81240736
There's something called SAGA, which is supplemental cash. $55 a month that you can take out of any ATM. You need to have under $250 worth of assets to qualify.
>>81233514
>get $200 in food stamps
>sell them for an average value of $0.50 on the dollar
>you get $100 for booze and drugs
>buyer gets $200 worth of fod for $100
source: grew up poor
>>81237637
>the nigs and the store owners are smarter than your average white leftist
fucking this
>>81237637
EBT is a pretty efficient program. The estimate for total amount of benefits diverted to the black market is around 1.3%.
>>81237976
>tfw from Lake Andes
IF you want to talk fraud, check out medicare/medicaid. This guy is accused of defrauding medicaid out of millions by performing unnecessary dental work because he's a sadist who enjoys causing children pain. He's also a Jew, surprised?
http://www.wptv.com/news/state/dr-howard-schneider-jacksonville-dentist-accused-of-running-house-of-horrors-agrees-to-quit
>>81242703
Just another reason why we need IQ-proportionate vote. However, it could also be that the people who do the scams are incentivized to put a bit of thought into the system, while lefties are only able to feel good about themselves if they ignore the practical effects of their systems. This is why we need to make incentives inherent in the preformance of our vanguards. Communism assigned their vangaurds based solely on agreement with ideology, and so they starved. If we assign our vanguards because of intelligence and incentives, there is nothing we can't do.
>>81243562
>capitalism is bad
Found the cuck.
>>81238210
they do, the thing is it's temporary and the money that is supposed to fund these programs is stolen by the politicians
>>81244310
>dude it is money operation and stuff so we need to say that it is the good thing
>even if it is the bad thing
Fraud is always wrong. We need to end fraud in every respect of society, in welfare or in dentistry.
>>81233514
I work as a cashier, it is easy. They give each other their ebt cards and exchange them for cash.
Most fags who get food stamps lie about their currency. My mom claims she gets 1000$ winnings a lot from playing darts but also claims she's gotta live on child support and food stamps because she has no money. It's ridiculous cucks like her should be killed. I don't care how redpilled she is, she's just mooching off my dad and the government.
>>81233514
California marijuana dispensaries have signs on them saying "We Accept EBT." You must be living somewhere much less degenerate, OP.
>>81246769
thats cause EBT=/=food stamps. EBT also covers cash assistance which is usable pretty much anywhere.
>>81238705
>70 cents on the dollar
Nigga you better be getting 50. cents on the dollar.
You're getting ripped off.
fucking indians trade money for food stamps at their gas stations
>>81238630
they simply go to their mom's house
>>81248146
bigger demand nowadays. what with nafta and millions of mexicans killing wages
>>81238928
source?
>>81233514
My parents are drug dealer pieces off shit, they sell drugs for food stamps.
>destitute addict needs drugs
>already spent govt money on vices, only has govt food allowance
>goes to "trusted" drug dealer
>offers dealer use of food stamp card in exchange for drugs
>dealer goes and buys food with govt money that was traded for drugs
>comes home with food and gives destitute drug addict their drugs
My parents would do it 2 to 1, so $2 foodstamps for every actual dollar the drugs sold for.
a funny thing is that my parents along with most other dealers and drug addicts in my neighborhood had Govt entitlements as their only official income source. So the dealers would get a Disability check(for a bogus condition or even from fucking drug abuse) or welfare check every month and buy drugs with it, then they would sell these drugs to the addicts who paid with disability or welfare or food stamp money from the govt. Its this weird chain where the Govt is throwing money at lazy retards who throw it at street drug dealers who in turn throw it at higher level dealers and eventually the money ends up in the hands of organized crime leaders.
>>81250459
Defrauding disability is probably one of the most difficult things to do for the amount of money you get back. The appeals process can drag on for years until you finally get a hearing, and even if you do the approval rate is only around 40% on average. In my state it's 32%. If you have the patience to wait 2 years with no income for a 40% chance of getting $773 a month you should just sell drugs.
>>81250889
This. just finally got on disability. took over 2 years and dont even get what a min wage worker would.
>>81233514
They use the money they save on not paying for necessities on booze and drugs
Think, stop trying to be a smug asshole with your hahaha /pol/ BEE TEE EF OH and try and see where we're coming from
>>81250889
How exactly does one sell drugs?
>>81252126
Use propublica to find a doctor with a high amount of medicaid claims for for xanax or adderall in your area, claim symptoms of panic attacks/add, get prescribed drugs, sell to niggers(and probably get robbed)
>>81252598
What if I want to keep the adderall instead? Which is worth more? Adderall or xanax?
>>81250889
I had a tranny neighbor get disability for being a tranny essentially. "Anxiety"
He's in jail now for slinging meth
>>81250889
My parents did it and I knew plenty of others in the ghetto who did as well. You have no idea how lazy and maladjusted these people are, the promise of a tiny bit of free money for life is more attractive than any sort of actual paid labor.
They can also pass as "disabled" because of their drug abuse, the drugs will physically and mentally fuck them to the point where they actually couldnt work when they see the Social Security doctors. This isnt an actual medical condition though, its self inflicted and would fix itself pretty fucking quick if they stopped taking addictive poisons every few hours.
>>81233514
In miami there was a recent multi million dollar bust involving food stamp scamming where they'd trade in their ebt cards for a reduced amount of cash.
>>81252876
xanax.
Opiates get the big money though( but also a bigger chance of junkies killing you )
>>81253432
You can get disability for anxiety? How do I get on this gravy train.
>>81253939
Nope
>>81239860
>They bring 2 shopping carts in the store, 1 for ebt food, and the other for unqualified items (alcohol)
>They bring 2 shopping carts in the store,
>2 shopping carts
And you have the audacity to call /pol/ retarded huh?
>>81238210
Dude, there's goverment every time you open the tap water, everything is subsidized
There's milk that the government sells for 1 peso, there's the SinHambre card to buy food, there's infonavit housing, IMSS, isste, there's prospera to fight inequality, there's help for single moms and old men
We literally are Venezuela but with crony capitalism
Nothing works, and we are drowning in failure because of the taxes to mantain all the welfare
Some niggers even sell their WIC checks.
>>81233514
>How do people abuse food stamps to buy alcohol and drugs when all they can purchase is food and cooking materials?
Are you fucking retarded, anon? People will trade for those items specifically. Say someone has a carton of cigarettes, person with food stamps wants them. Buys the person with a carton of the cigarettes the equivalent price in food.
Kill yourself you literal unthinking faggot.
>>81233514
They trade or sell the debit card that snap benefits are loaded onto. Later they will claim they lost it and be issued a new one. I work in a benefits office in texas. They are so stupid that they will call us complaining about being scammed because a food stamp card they bought from someone is empty.
Food stamp fraud is nothing compared to the shit people pull with medicaid. Mom's will claim that baby daddy and her split to fraudulently quality kids for free Healthcare . Or they will not report earnings so they can still qualify. Or they sometimes even doctor check stubs to qualify. Hell if it is a city near the border the mexicans will cross over give a relatives address and walk away with benenfits. No one checks shit because they are swamped with applications. They run it like a call center with people having to fulfill performance quotas and process a certain number of cases a day.
>>81257575
The text isn't lined up with the door, who was the asshole that did this?
I sympathize with some of the welfarist hate in here, as it certainly is a wasteful system, but have any of you been fired from a job without any money to your name? They give you $100 a month. Everyone games the system at every level, but this is barely anything to cry about.
>>81243562
My father was a dentist and saw this. He worked in a Slav-heavy immigrant neighborhood so many patients went to other dentists who told them they had a bunch of shit wrong and could charge the bill to the taxpayer. They'd come to my father next since we have a very Polish last name and he'd find nothing or far less wrong with them.
>>81257575
EBT Cash
The EBT card has both food funds and cash funds
>>81233514
>>81233514
dumb cunt they buy the dealers food with food stamps to exchange for drugs
I've heard cases where people use their EBT to buy video games. But no, no, OP is right, everyone on welfare deserves to leech off of others and nobody abuses the system.
>>81261974
I process welfare. There are certainly people that do need it. Most fo the rest are just fucking retarded when it comes to money or were irresponsible when younger and had 3-5 kids that they now cannot afford to feed with their low skill job. In its current incarnation it rewards the irresponsible far more than the needy.
To give an example, one lady called in p issued because she says she did not have money after paying her bills and was only getting a couple hundred bucks for her and a couple kids. We come to find out that she has no money because she is paying for stupid useless bullshit like a $150 monthly cable bill and an unlimited data plan. Not the best fucking ideas when you are having issues feeding your damn kids. She then chimed out when we explained that we do not cover those as expense and then accused us of cheating her by not getting her income right by doctoring her checks. Everything we had was exactly as it was on the checks she had given us.
Most of the time people are not humble about benefits. There is a massive sense of entitlement like above. You desperately need reform. In the old days you could not qualify if you even owned a car. Now they will exempt one car and even several if they are used for work.
>>81261974
$100 a month is enough to eat with for a month. Learn to spend your money.
my next door niggers just shot of 1000 dollars worth of chinese fireworks. how? i don't want to know.
>>81264306
they probably used a lighter, maybe matches
>>81238630
Niggers would rather have their Hennessy and Wray and Nephews over food.
Either its by selling EBT or selling drugs as a side job.
>>81261974
this is what savings are for you nigger
You guys are doing it wrong. Why would you settle for 50 cents on the dollar
>be me, get 2 bills a month in stamps
>go buy like 2 10 dollar things of coffee and a 5 dollar bag of sugar
>return them saying you got the wrong kind, your wife already bought it so you don't need it, you saw the doctor and they told you not to drink coffee anymore, or whatever the fuck
>"No, I don't have the reciept but my wife called earlier and they told her you can exchange it for store credit"
>get gift card with 25 bucks on it
>buy 4 fifths of rotgut store-brand vodka at 6 bucks a bottle
>set for the week
You can even come out ahead if you look for sales
>Smith's has Applejacks on sale for two bucks a box
>buy 3 and proceed across the street to Albertsons where the cereal is 4.50 a box
>"Well, this was my kid's favorite, but I guess he changed his mind. I tossed the reciept, but you do store credit, right?
>take 14 dollar gift card and get a fifth of rum and a pack of marlboros
>out 6 bucks of ebt
>use ebt to buy some sirloins, hamburger meat, frozen pizzas and pork chops for the week
I usually throw on a dress shirt and tie for this, and I'm a 6'2 white guy, so I'm not sure how it would work if you're a pepperbelly or some shit, but I've got like a 90% success rate. Fucking cluck move giving away half your shit family members.
>>81265034
Damn. That's a good racket.
For anyone saying SNAP (food stamp program) should be abolished:
I grew up in the USA and was homeless and on my own at 16 years old thanks to my meth addict parents. There was 0 assistance available to me, except for SNAP. It it weren't for that program, I would have either starved or had to resort to stealing in order to just eat. I was already sleeping on a bench.
It may sound absurd for this to happen to a 16 year old, but it happened to me and it happens every day. The social worker didn't even bat an eye when I told them I was homeless and 16. America has completely dismantled their safety net, and getting rid of SNAP would be putting spikes at the bottom of the pit. Yes there are dirt bags that abuse it, and I will agree the government could do a better job of investigating these people and banning them from the program, but I assure you there are more people that actually need this help than there are abusing it.
>>81267986
>checks flag
Seems legit.
>>81267986
I actually see the cases. For every homeless or disabled individual that needs the help there are several irresponsible morons who had too many kids or cannot handle money responsibly.
The standards currently are far too lax. It is common to see customers roll up in nicer cars than the state employees processing their case.
>>81268481
I said I grew up in the USA, that doesn't mean I still live there.
>>81269079
I thought Australia didn't allow niggers in.
>>81233514
EBT is a capitalist system that you should all like and here's why.
If you're poor if gives you a chance to support businesses.
>Go to the store.
>pay with EBT
>Wowworker will get paid.
>wow store can stay open.
You fucking idiots understand EBT isnt "yeah just go in and take what you want and leave"
you literally have to pay for your shit with a card and the place gets the payment and down the road it gets turned into to cash for the business.
you faggots are once again too busy pushing your shitty moral agenda on people to even understand that with out giving poor people ebt stores would lose a HUGE percentage of profits and customers.
faggots like always.
>>81271867
>poorfags are the economy
KYS.
