>want to leave church so I don't have to pay churchtax
>go to registry office
>they tell me I need a appointment and pay 40 euros
>mfw
>>80978951
>>80978951
>40€
wooooow
>>80979041
would you pay several hundreds of euros churchtax a year?
>>80978951
Sounds like good old extortion
>>80978951
What the fuck is church tax? You mean when they ask for a donation? Just throw a euro in you fucking jew.
>>80979340
Germany, why is your flag upside down?
>>80979393
This.
Does the state actually tax you for being a church member or is your english shitty?
>>80979152
>implying it's justified to take money for leavinf church
>>80979393
it's a tax so they take it before you even see your money
>>80978951
>churchtax
>the jewish yhw cult literally, non-ironically takes money from you by force
wtf mang
>>80979490
Don't mock our African heritage
>>80978951
We can do it online in a few seconds and completely free.
>>80979393
>>80979519
At least in Finland, if you get signed to the church by your parents you'll have to either leave or pay the tax. You have to be in a church to get baptized and wed in a church IIRC, so it's payment for these services.
>>80978951
>>want to leave church so I don't have to pay churchtax
>degenerate detected
Because of people like that abandon the church there are less churches and more mosque build. Fucking shitskin cocksucker.
>>80979393
No the government taxes you based on your religion. They keep a "small" portion for themselves and the rest goes to your Church.
The German government keeps
> 25-30% for most Christian Taxes
>1-5% for Jewish Synagogs
>0% for Muslim Mosques
The German government is lifting the taxes for Muslims more Mosques can be built.
>If you factor in the all the other government incentives for Mosques they are giving the tax dollars of the Jews and Christians to build more Mosques.
>>80979235
>would you pay several hundreds of euros churchtax a year?
No, I wouldn't, because protestantism is heretical. But you're an atheist, that's why I posted the picture.
>>80980031
Maybe if christards didn't jew money from it's participants they would have more church-goers.
>>80980136
>No the government taxes you based on your religion.
I'm sorry Germany. We seemed to have done a shit job liberating you.
Hopefully we'll firebomb you into oblivion again so we can rebuild you one more time and get it right.
>>80980412
This
>>80980136
>> 25-30% for most Christian Taxes
Where did you get this rate from, your sub-60 IQ brain amerifat ? The church tax in Germany is at 8-9% of your wage.
>>80980031
>implying the catholic church doesn't love muslims and tolerance
>>80980157
>leaving a money collecting club means you are a fat fedora atheist
>sweden
>not butthurt
choose one
>>80980885
Are you an atheist or not?
>>80978951
>church tax
>>80980794
25-30% of the profits from the tax for that denomination is kept by the government.
>>80978951
Church tax?
What?
>>80981108
STEALTH RARE!
>>80978951
>Church tax
I didn't know Sharia law passed in Germany.
Now, assuming you're not trolling, do Muslims have to pay a similar tax? Because I doubt it.
>>80981001
I'm not an atheist but also don't think the catholic church is the right one for me even if it didn't had church tax it wouldn't be the right one for me.
>>80980794
Hans, I knows it's difficult to understand English it's so far from your countrys native language of Arabic
>>80978951
What the fuck is church tax?
Is that actually a thing?
>>80981248
>Now, assuming you're not trolling
He isn't.
>>80981248
muslims have no similat tax but the church tax comes from the tenth from the middleages.
>>80981280
Good man.
>>80980136
Ha. I guess Hitler's dream is becoming a reality. Germany will be a Muslim country.
>>80978951
Well look what you've got yourself into now anon. Even when I was a child the church's tales of hell-fire and sin did not deter me. You should getting into weight lifting, bro, or smoking weed.
>>80981463
except that this was never his dream
>>80981438
I guess that's why we don't have it here
>>80981357
See
>>80980136
The government taxes you. They keep a portion of the gross profit from the tax. The portion is based on denomination. The rest of it goes to the churches of that denomination.
>chruch tax is a real thing
my sides.
>>80978951
They charged me 27€ back in 2015, but it's worth it.
Martin Luther would do the same
>>80979572
t. Ahmed Mohammed
>>80981751
>>80981872
Are you guys fucking serious?
God damn Germany is lost
Churches are tax exempt here and only thing that the attendees do is give donations but you don't have to donate
>>80981698
Europe has no freedom
So if you're an atheist in europe you don't have to pay "Church taxes"? or they charge you "Dawkins taxes" or something?
>>80978951
>leaving the church
Fuck you, fucking traitor faggot!!!!!!!!!!
>>80982208
Everytime you enter a Church they put you on a registry
Church tax is a thing here, at least.
0,5%-1% of your income usually.
>>80978951
I made this a vector for you senpai
>>80982578
only catholics and protestants pay church tax
>>80982240
Europe never had Classical Liberalism (aka America), they had the Enlightenment (aka French Revolution and resulting ooze that formed Communism)
That's why Europeans insist that Nazis are Right Wing because they don't know what the fuck Classical Liberalism is.
>didn't pay church tax for 3 years even though I had a job
>church kept sending letters to get my money
>called them and said I'm a student for 2 more years so pls remove those charges for now since I can't afford it look at me I'm so poor boo hoo
>they agree and drop whatever I owe them so far.
>leave church via online form couple days later
Fuck em
>>80983149
I guess that's why so many europeans are athiests.
>Church tax
>Muslims pay no tax
Stay cucked jerry
>>80979490
are you retarded? is my flag red green and yellow to you?
>>80980136
What the fuck.....
I donate to my church since they help out my community but a government state tax for going to church?!
What the fuck Germany, do we, Russia and Britain have to go over there and kick your asses again?
Does anyone have a link of an article on this topic for proofs?
Am I being trolled?
>>80978951
you made this thread like a week ago
just fucking pay them already
>>80983379
here you go
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax
no idea how they deal with Mosques in Germany, but I guess it's rich Muslims from gulf states paying for those + donations from regular Muslims.
>>80983379
We have it in Sweden as well.
>>80982208
I have left the church because I was sick of the cult for global warming, green energy and muslims. It's not in the bible, none of it. However, 50+ MIO people (29,5% catholics and 27,9% protestants) pay 10% of their income straight to those government preachers. 5,68 BLN € alone in 2015.
>>80983355
taxing welfare would be stupid
>>80983086
give me the svg pls
>>80983203
We do have liberals that stand for classical-liberalism.
Its why I need to explain Americans that I'm not a socialist whenever I mention being part of the Liberal Party in Germany..
>>80983609
Holy shit its actually real, i thought i was being trolled
I always thought religious fags where losers but now i know they are super cucks. The governments cucks their wage extra hard
>>80983348
on the paper only, different situation in east germany, those former communists are real atheists inbreds
>>80982740
only disabled people pay churchtax.
you believe in santa claus?
![Whenthememesodankyoureeyeswater_56ca5f1ebbcceab8f07822b06de33b0a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wKp6CTC.jpg "Whenthememesodankyoureeyeswater_56ca5f1ebbcceab8f07822b06de33b0a[1].jpg")
>tfw I left the church to save money
>tfw I am now not allowed to enter churches anymore
>>80983910
Yeah I dont really see why most Finns are paying it voluntarily, but it's not my problem desu.
>>80983086
>155"""1"""x1500
SOILED IT
>>80980031
Don't charge church tax then you kike
>>80984106
You can enter Churches that don't get any share from the Church Taxes no problem.
>>80984106
Get fake documents. When they check them at the door James T Russle will get the bill.
>>80984106
that can't possibly be a thing lol
>>80979235
Yes, I'm not an edgy fedora.
>>80984448
I'd rather be an edgy fedora than get jew'd by the church
>>80983910
I always thought your TV tax was a joke.
Welcome to the club. Laughing at other Countries and their wonky taxes and lack of Freedom
>>80978951
>Church tax.
This sounds like something out of the middle ages . What the purpose of it?
>>80983609
Holeeee shit
If I Had to start paying a church tax I'd literally bug out, I wouldn't care if I was the only one.
Am I the only American here baffled by this? Is the concept of freedom totally lost on the Euros?
>>80984629
>post your face when you don't have to pay tv licenses or chruch tax
>>80984756
>Maintaining churches, cemeteries, etc
>paying for the priests and other crew
>>80978951
>registry office
you need to ask the government permission to fucking stop going to church?
>>80984588
Christen'd you mean
>>80978951
Didn't them asking you for money in the first place set off a red flag?
Wtf is up with religion in your part of the world?
>>80984831
It's voluntary; you can leave the church at any time.
>>80984756
Forced donations for churches and the government gets a fat cut for "collection"
>>80978951
> Church Tax
WTF?
>>80984929
This is a principle thing, I shouldn't have to pay a tax because of what church I go to.
The fact thag hajis and jews pay less is outrageous, at least here we don't have to give the state a dime on the basis of our religion.
Church is supposed to be a sanctuary, regardless of whether you believe in it or not, you ought to be able to walk in to one whenever you want to seek help, guidance or even join.
The more time goes on, the more i realize the Euros are not worth saving
>>80985447
There's only 2 churches in Finland that collect this tax. If you don't like the tax just join any other Christian church or leave and stop rambling about fucking principles.
>cant marry in church if you arent part of the church
>have to pay church tax to be part of it
>>80978951
I only had to pay 20 bucks. That was like 5 years ago.
They also told me to keep my copy because if somehow they church takes money from me, I HAVE TO PROVE that I left, they don't have to do shit.
>>80985595
I read up Finlands laws and they don't seem too bad, I still don't agree with them but Germany's and Swedens laws are downright insane if I'm to believe this anon.
>>80980136
>>80978951
they need the money to live comfortably.the churches are like companies.
Fedorabeards here think the tax largely goes to foreign aid when in reality it goes to the church's own social aid and community programs that help a lot of people. But what the fuck would they care?
Also OP its high time you dislodge your lips from the popes ass, Get rekt Catholic heathen.
>>80986216
>In a recent development, the Swedish government has agreed to continue collecting from individual taxpayers the annual payment that has always gone to the church. But now the fee will be an optional checkoff box on the tax return. The government will allocate the money collected to Catholic, Muslim, Jewish and other faiths as well as the Lutherans, with each taxpayer directing where his or her taxes should go.
So, if I'm getting it right, it's completely voluntary in Sweden AND you can direct where (if anywhere) you want your church tax to go.
Seems like in Germany, every religious community can collect the tax from its members and if you aren't part of any community, you don't have to pay shit.
So, no, don't believe that anon.
>>80980794
>The church tax in Germany is at 8-9% of your wage.
Is this just another penis inspection day or am I living in hell?
>>80986672
>For example, a single person earning 50,000 euros may pay an average income-tax of 20%, thus 10,000 euros. The church tax is then an additional 8% (or 9%) of that 10,000 euros (800 or 900 euros) for a total of 10,800 or 10,900 euros in taxes.
>>80983609
mosques aren't centrally organized like the churches
>>80986539
If you are official member of the church you pay taxes.
The state collects the taxes for the church. The church is also responsible for what is taught in Religionsunterricht in school. And every student has to attend either Religionsunterricht, either cathlic, protestant or if you are not christian you have to take "ethics" (although this is not the same in every school, some have other alternatives).
The church and the state are not 100% seperated in Germany.
>>80986974
Oh yeah the church would also be allowed to kick you out at any time if you don't pay the church tax - but I never heard of that happening.
>>80984876
>The German government keeps
>> 25-30% for most Christian Taxes
>>1-5% for Jewish Synagogs
>>0% for Muslim Mosques
>The German government is lifting the taxes for Muslims more Mosques can be built.
How is this not discriminatory, oh wait, i know, its because it discriminates against christians
>>80986751
Wage slaves have to pay their slave fees to their slave owners so that they can have mosques built in their homelands
>having the state control your church
>at any moment or any state of existence
>>80987463
religion was the main reason we kept fucking each other up in europe for hundreds of years
you should read a history book if the power of the churches in europe surprises you
>>80986751
>>80987230
Its like you buy a cheap car for the government each year
>>80986672
I am still pretty sure this is like the buffet at the gun range meme, or the penis inspector meme
So can we make a list of free countries
>>80987710
I know the history plenty well. But that has zero to do with what I said.
>>80980412
too late, youd have to bomb the entire western world to give us a fresh start. we would just develop in another cucked state.
(im just joking)
>>80987885
I left out the thought process but it's very much related
pretty sure a smart tripfag like you can figure it out
>unironically being extorted by the church
>>80987710
Typical ignorant american here. Are there any book recommendations regarding religion and it's influence in Europe?
The only arguments about religion I know are from Alan Watts, and last time pol said Alan Watts is a wannabe zen master /shroomer & his work is poetic, not academic.
>>80988350
lel, sounds fucking medival if you think about it.
>>80988547
>if you think about it.
that shouldn't be a problem for most germans, considering you're being bred into a mongrel race of slaves to the kikes
and yea its meddival, but worse, jews and mudslimes dont pay the tax?? I'm sure Merkelstein is sending all the money to them
you poor poor dogs
>>80979861
Obvious bait
Protestantism is a joke of a """religion""" but even they wouldn't sink this low
>>80988377
what I did was I went to the public library and just grabbed books about the topic
don't remember any titles or authors but if you study european history you can't avoid reading a about christianity and all the conflicts surrounding the different sects
>>80988225
>the state has tax controls on the church placed on them by the early 1800s
>already after the Enlightenment which was the spread of secularization
Anon pls.
Church Taxes came about so the government could allow the churches to continue providing the aid they did in Germany that the secular government was failing to do and was just kept from there, even to the point of being placed wholesale in the eventual German constitution.
Anon pls
You're better than this. You know the 30 Years War and general sectarian fighting didn't cause shit but the secularization itself in this scenario.
>>80979235
I do and I'm atheist and I just don't give a shit, if anything it's supporting some Kind of tradition
>>80978951
Ahahahhahaha
Why does every country on earth suck so much more than america?
>>80983609
Crikey! I thought I was being trolled.
>>80986751
WHAT THE FUCK.
THATS A LOT OF MONEY.
Why are you complaining about 40€, OP? Goddamn. Just get out.
>>80979519
It literally gets taken off their wages every month like income tax does.
>the impoverished shanty town of Germany
>church tax
Germany is a fucking shithole .Just wow.
>>80989565
We do not have a lot to brag about. How do we stop this church tax from happening here? Id that what the "Christian Terrorist Church" spam is about? The web is filled with shills saying that there are terror churches in the south and that buddhism is regressive.
Is that just a psy op? Im wortied about regulated and taxed religion in the usa. Otoh, what if previsely that change could reign in Islamic terror in the USA? I feel torn on every side of every issue.
>>80983358
Check his flag, then you'll understand the confusion.
>>80990955
You do realize that the money goes to the churches right?
>>80981214
>Pitcairn
>Rare
>>80991171
The government shouldn't order people to pay money to fucking churches or any other religion.
If you want to pay a tithe out of your own free will then go nuts.
Not even an Atheist, I'm Free Church of Scotland.
So you're essentially rewarded by disassociating with the church? I'm not particularly religious but that doesn't sound like a good system. If you don't want your money to go to a church you should still have to pay, and instead the money goes to charities.
>>80991342
Most churches rely on donations. This is just an automated system directed from the state.
If you don't want to pay church taxes you can just leave.
Like I wrote earlier, I paid 20 bucks for that.
It also cost money to get in, but the church pays for that as they get much more in return.
>>80991171
Is what >>80980136
says true? I don't want to pay for some false religion with my money. Also forced "donations" are retarded especially in a religious setting.
>>80978951
>want to leave the church so I don't have to pay teifs
>get executed for blasphemy
>>80991539
I still think you should have to opt in.
I can choose to give money to charity straight from my pay for example but I would be pissed off if the government told me that I had to give money to Oxfam every month, and if I didn't want to I had to pay £20 for them to stop it.
>>80984106
Are you trolling, r-right?
Cant you... cant you enter to a church anymore?
>>80991513
why? we pay enough already. income tax, make east germany great again tax, pension insurance, health insurance and unemployment insurance. it takes 1/3 to 1/2 of your income.
>Church taxes
>Euros
Can you be anymore cucked?
>>80991628
It is 3 %.
Atleast that what:
http://www.ev-lukaskirche-gerlingen.de/mittendrin-in-der-welt/was-passiert-mit-ihrer-kirchensteuer/
OFFICIAL protestant church says.
They also say that if you donate directly to them they have much higher cost (15%).
THERE IS NO CHURCH TAX FOR JEWS OR MUSLIMS. This guy just talks crap, see how he gave no source.
>>80991754
You can just leave the state way and then always donate on your own. You really think someone will kick you for it?
Don't worry about being taxed for being Christian Deutschcuck. Soon you will be taxed for being a cis white male.
>having a state church
Boy I sure am glad I live in the US and not some backwards Yuropoor nation
>>80992615
The money that gets collected GOES TO THE CHURCH. It is just an automated system to collect money for the church.
You don't get taxed for being christian, you get taxed FOR the CHURCH.
The government is basically the little bitch and collects money for papa church.
>>80983358
you just said retard the polizei are on the way
