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/sg/ Syria General - REBEL MORALE JUST KEEPS FALLING EDITION


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Prev >>80897280

>SouthFront July 14
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1st For Assad!
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New interview with Assad :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_Lq1VrTxM
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3rd for fresh bananas with ketchup.
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I'm lovin' it!
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>>80970222
yummy
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LATEST INTERVIEW WITH ASSAD
https://youtu.be/kb_Lq1VrTxM
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>>80970125
Still gotta watch it, guess I will this evening

Is it better than that interview with the Australian SBS channel from 2 weeks ago?

>>80970163
kek
>inb4 yearbook "I never have a bad hair day"-quote
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any videos from saudis bombing their own forces?
or aftermath of that?
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>>80970363
Yes they are located in the /yg/ thread
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Greater Syria in this thread.
Also because all of the relevant information has been updated.
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>>80970313
ma nigga
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>>80970512
why?
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REBEL SCUM! OFF OUR STREETS!!
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>>80970604
Why not really?
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>>80970512
What is this?
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>>80970340
It's 10x times worse, the guy is bashing trump half of the interview and saying Assad kills children and stuff.

What a fucking retard, if you want to win a war people will get killed. Does he even remember all the previous US wars?
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https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/saudi-fm-threatens-turkey-policy-shift-toward-syria/

>The Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia, Adel al-Jubeir, said that Turkey knows very well that it is incapable of betraying the Syrian opposition with such ease, questioning the sudden and unexpected shift of attitude adopted recently by the Turkish Prime Minister.

>“He [Turkish PM] is aware that Turkey is vulnerable to be divided by the Kurds; making such a fatal mistake will probably lead Turkey to collapse”.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-pm-says-assad-must-go-before-any-change-in-turkeys-stance-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=101580&NewsCatID=510

>One day after saying that Turkey needs to return to normal relations with Syria, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım said that for anything else to change on Turkey’s side regarding Syria, first Syrian President Bashar al-Assad needed to go.

>“It is for sure that something needs to change in Syria but above all Assad must go first,” Yıldırım told BBC’s HARDtalk program on July 14.
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Deir Ezzor will be expanded upon
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>>80970865
That actually looks pretty good. Just add some French fries and it'll be perfect
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>>80970877
Jesus christ.. doesnt sound promising at all
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>>80970865
>Cheerios, rice, beans,
>Peas and carrots in a tortilla

What kind of meal is this?! This isn't something you see here in the states.
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>>80970877

>
It's 10x times worse, the guy is bashing trump half of the interview and saying Assad kills children and stuff.

>What a fucking retard, if you want to win a war people will get killed. Does he even remember all the previous US wars?

One of the ironies of years of dehumanizing Arabs, Muslims and Palestinians is that now it is very hard for them to play the humanitarian card. Even if the worst accusations against Russia/Assad are true (and they are not ) nobody in the audience would care.
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>>80970870
soft-serve ramen
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>>80970512
wtf man
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daily reminder to

KILL THE TURKS
GAS THE KURDS
YA BASHAR!
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>>80971574
>soft-serve

TUCH
MUH BABY
TAINTED LUV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVpR3Pk-r8
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>>80971712
Don't gas them, just put them in labour camps.
slaves for greeks in anatolia
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>>80970877
this, he just got destroyed by Assad.
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>>80969672
>be a """"rebel""""
>get bombed by Russia
>get routed by Hezbollah
>get shelled by Assad
>survive all this shit
>get beheaded by your own guys because you didn't 'alloha akbar' enough during the last suicide mission
So what keeps these guys going?
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>>80972374
Underage cunny.
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>>80972291
That actually look really good - saved.
Banana and PB on oats?
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>>80972374
Depends purely on the faction. The actual moderates are not in combat, mist are just staying at home protecting their home, village, and town. The extremist factions are the most willing to fight. It's the idea, the concept of being rewarded in the after-life that motivates them. The god of al-nusra, Ahrar al-sham, and the other extremist factions is whom they are motivated to serve. They view Bashar and those that support him as troglodytes, traitors, apostates, and everything that the Sunni extremists oppose. If dying in the field means reward there after, then it was all worth it for them.
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>>80972685
>oats

Millet.

http://www.fitmamarealfood.com/creamy-millet-porridge/
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>>80972685
Disgusting.
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>>80972685
why don't you just shit in your mouth?
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>>80970865
I hope you're the next /sg/ anon to die.
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What's up losers?
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>>80973543
Let me see that boipucci :DDD
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So while Zahreddine was earlier rumoured to be the new commander of the armed forces in eastern Syria, it has now been confirmed general Mohammed Khadour has been replaced by Major General Hassan Mohammed, a veteran of the Qamishli battles against ISIS

al-Masdar implies one of his first commands this week has been moving reinforcements to Deir ez-Zor (from Hasakah)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-reinforcements-arrive-deir-ezzor/
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>>80973721
*cringes*
:DDD You should taste my mighty dick.
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>>80973890
Roaches have penises?
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>>80972994
I'll be making that for breakfast this weekend, thanks.
>>80973418
You're missing out.

Who has died besides Houthibro?
Where the fuck is Deep Cover btw?
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>>80974118
Houthibro isnt confirmed dead until proven otherwise

I know its a possibility but he went long without posting sometimes before
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>>80973543

I always lol and cringe when you're in these threads. You must have a pretty sad life.
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>>80974262
SHUT THE FUCK UP NIGGER LOL
NIGGER
A FUCKING AFRICAN NIGGER
LOL
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Fresh map upcoming

RuAF Tu-22M3's again strike Sukhnah, Arak, T3, east of Palmyra
SyAAF MiG-21 downed near Deir ez-Zor Thardeh mountains, pilot Lt. Col. Maher died
TIP & Nusra recapture several hills around Kabani in early morning
Jund al-Aqsa transport hit by landmine
SAA clash with al-Nusra groups in Daraa al-Balad and al-Nueimeh
SyAAF target ISIS in al-Jafra, al-Mrei'iyeh and al-Bu Amr (Deir ez-Zor)

Missed anything? Suggestions/corrections welcome
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>>80974565
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>>80974746
I thought it's a MiG 23
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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Two-Men-Fall-Down-Cliff-While-Playing-Pokemon-Go-386743551.html
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>>80975133
Wrong thread m8.
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>>80974746
ISIS shot down SAA helicopter near Eastern Ghouta
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>>80975133
Serves them right for being such manchildren
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>>80973543
Are you autistic or smt senpai
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>>80975016
yeah theres still conflicting reports sadly.
@LuftwaffeAS, usually a source who knows what hes talking about, says MiG-21

Looking at the tail section compared with some stuff on google images on MiG-21 and MiG-23 Im inclined to agree, although Im no expert in any way

>>80975185
Oh yes thanks man
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>What #Putin does in #Aleppo now is called #BiologicalWarfare, according to the Oxford Journal.

https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/753533665691459584
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nth for drones
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>>80976356
>biological warfare
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>>80976356
OK, which one of you is @TimSwan_?

Good job, btw.
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>>80977089
Looks like a trap, are you some kind of degenerate?
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it's otto at 2:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41TUdoKZC-A
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>>80977290
If anyone is looking for more.
http://www.michelle-marshall.com/mc1r/
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https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/753591496486559744

>#Minsk-forbidden arms used by (pro-)#Russians in eastern #Ukraine over the last 24 hours.

Mortars & artillery are "forbidden arms" now???
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>>80970324
good
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>>80977452
Looks underage here >>80977290
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Reminder that Kurds are literally the only people worth supporting in the region
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>>80977572
Nothing lewd about it, he's an edgy portrait photographer.
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>>80977499
The minsk agreement forbids >= 100mm caliber artillery
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GUYS, Look at this, She is the first Syrian rapefugee we are letting in. Are we lucky?
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>>80974565

But I'm white, roachieboy. Did I touch a nerve? You obviously have a psychiatric condition.
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>>80978096
Looks kinda hot tbqh, f'am.
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>>80970877
Citing Obama's executive order July 1st:
>Civilian casualties are a tragic and at times unavoidable consequence of the use of force in situations of armed conflict or in the exercise of a state's inherent right of self-defense.
Of course that's not meant to cover opponents of the US, only allied governments and of course the US government itself.
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>>80978056
Anyone else claiming it other than Julien tho?

Also, anyone who speaks German, how would you say "down with the Merkel regime" in German?
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>>80978056
Only prorussian artillery, regular ukrainian shelling of suburbs along the line of contact is kosher.
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>>80969672
Fuck Minnesota.
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>>80970125
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_Lq1VrTxM

the heated tension at begins at 30
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>>80978487
Hello proxy Otto. Fag.
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>>80978487
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>>80970877

It's ridiculous how badly manipulated the so-called journalists in the West are.

He's given a few talking points, and he just fires them off in sequence:

>Tries to shit on Trump
>Of course they have to throw in the old barrel bomb meme
>Standard accusation of using chemical weapons (proven to be Turkish)
>Tries to get Assad to comment on celebrity tier drama in the US election
>Spouting bullshit about some bitch reporter who got whacked in a war zone

The western media has about zero fucking credibility by now. They're all proven to be State Department and Pentagon puppets.
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>>80978440
>Also, anyone who speaks German, how would you say "down with the Merkel regime" in German?
Nieder mit dem Merkel-Regime!
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>>80978487
>>80978546
I missed this
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>>80978843
Thank you kameraden.
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>>80972374

They are promised they will get laid with 72 virgins when their body parts get scattered in combat.

The worrying thing is, we're not sure if Mohammad (pbuh) promised male or female virgins.


Also, Mohammad was not clear on those who waging Jihad who die by stepping on a land mine or getting killed by friendly fire. Do they get laid in paradise as well? Or do they only get 1/3 of the teenage boy virgins?

Islam is so confusing..
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https://youtu.be/2mT8HwWZ-1g

Tu-22M3 footage. Added to featured videos playlist on the /sg/ channel.
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>>80979107
Other details of the houris that have been pointed out by Sunni scholars include that the houris would not urinate, defecate, become pregnant or menstruate.[12] It has also been said that all houris are "transparent to the marrow of their bones",[13][14] "eternally young",[15] "hairless except the eyebrows and the head",[15] "pure"[14] and "beautiful".[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri#Sunni_descriptions
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Oh, there's this analysis of the Russo-Georgian War which might interest you guys.

>http://www.combatreform.org/georgianwar.htm

Be aware, the guy that did it is the (in)famous Mike Sparks, of the "call the M113 a Gavin" meme.

His take on it is interesting, but a little... shrill, in parts.
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>>80978096
What is this? A woman not wearing her hijab?! HARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>80979469

So basically pre-teen boys?
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>>80979507
Rate.

https://www.instagram.com/bayanzehlif/
https://twitter.com/bayanzehlif
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>>80979714
>https://twitter.com/bayanzehlif
>"Isis Philips"
K E K
E
K
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>>80979363
Finally MOD released a video
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Anyone else feel the heat and tension from the interview. I was amazed at how well Assad handled the whole thing, the man has balls of steel and an iron will. I was expecting to see some frustration or blunders in his responses but they were perfect and absolutely shredded the NBC shill.
My favorite part was when they talked about the dead reporter.

What was your favorite part /sg/?
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>>80979363
Noise!!
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>>80979363
Who and where exactly are they striking in particular there?
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>>80980564
Story behind pic?
Who's the guy, what side were the heads on?
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>>80980683
>Who?
ISIS.
>Where?
At Sukhnah, Arak, T3 area and "east of Palmyra"
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>>80970125
Tfw Syria has a White president than America
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>>80980931
>>80979363
Why more often then not the crosshair doesn't match the explosions?
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>>80981050
Drop your proxy, that's cheating
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>>80981075
because the crosshair is a drone and not the actual targeting system , the crosshair is not here to target anything .
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>>80981075
because they are recording that from a UAV and not from the tu-22s
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>>80970084
that's one way to do it.
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>>80981050
Nice flag, and thumbnail.
Is that you, Otto?
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>>80980273
Didnt watch that interview, but Assad is extremely intelligent and educated. Finished medicine and military academy. Western journalists often underestimate his intelligence
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>>80976356
and he just doesn't stop shitting him self
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>>80979714
Disgusting/10

What the fuck is it with these bitches with hijab and make up.

How can they explain the major hypocricy?

This shit is massively infuriating to me when I see it.... And you see it so often nowadays

DO ONE OR THE OTHER YOU HYPOCRITICAL MUSLIMS
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>Asma Alabed for The Independent UK reports The son of Osama bin Laden has threatened revenge against the US for assassinating his father, according to an audio message posted online by Al-Qaeda.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/osama-bin-laden-son-hamza-vows-revenge-us-for-killing-his-father-in-video-posted-online-a7129281.html
here we go again
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>>80979965
There is nothing wrong in fucking your cousin, though
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This war will go on for another 5 years. It will be the longest war in modern history.
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>>80981050
tfw rose is DEAD
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>>80973543
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>>80976356
putin... giving the rebels explosive diarrhea by bombing them ;D

holy shit that dude is completly nuts...

the last time thos rebels used a toilette is probably months ago...
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>>80981940
They make my dick cry.
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>>80982094
>There is nothing wrong in fucking your cousin

Second cousins (maaaaaybe......), but first cousins? Are you fucking kidding me? That's how you get inbred fucks a la "Hills have eyes", and weird genetic shit.

Then again, you're Peruvian, and I dated a Peruvian girl once. She had a weird-shaped head, and shit vision. I think it may be related to you fucking your cousins.
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>>80982264
on /b/, yes.
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>>80982426
Only if you are both carriers to recessive diseases.
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>>80977499
>>80978056
is he talking about the encirclement where the novo russian forces once again ended an ukrainian attack by killing and encircling them... ?

evil novorussians shooting back at attacking ukrainians...^^
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>>80982644
They've a talent for getting encircled.
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>>80982644
Oh silly you, terrorists like invading Russians or the murderous dictator Assad have no right to "defend themselves"
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>>80982426
I said fuck not marry. And the weird shape head its ayy lmaos fault not endogamy
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>>80979714
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JUST
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r8.
http://www.liveleak.com/c/Ya-Istiklal-Ya-Olum
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>>80983648
""sources""
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>>80983753
No one cares Onur my son, now show us your boipucci or get out.
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>>80970125
Based Assad, look at him, so chill, he's something of an almost lost race of arabian dictators that actually had order
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DAILY REMINDER THAT YOU CAN T MOSSAD THE ASSAD
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>>80984112
I'm getting out.
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>>80983648
The eternal Saudi strikes again. These guys are more pesky than Israel
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>>80984261
Wise choice my son. Now get off the internet and live a happy and fulfilling life while we jerk off to dead bodies on a Cantonese duck roasting symposium :)
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Yall read the report of Nusra executing a dozen of US-trained "Division 30" rebels?
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>>80984997
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Also
>2 english Assad interviews in 2 weeks
Since when is christmas in July?
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>>80970963
cant find any other source, probably fake

Al masdar is alawite propaganda anyways
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>>80985774

I made that wojak you know.
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>>80984997
thats because fsa in azaz imprisoned some nusrat wahabis
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>>80969672
Vlad kicking that ass! Go Vlad. Putin for VP!

makebthe pigs cry like we do Hezbollah. Smegbollah. Bitches been crying since 06! Cry baby islam!
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>>80987353
You never go full retard.
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>>80983648
>Saudi commits the largest terror attack on US soil
>US invades Iraq

US forever Saudi cucks. Allahu Akbar
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>>80982986

>Fucking does not create children, only marriage does
>Peruvian education
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>>80988450

Oil is collapsing. Within 20 years Saudi is going to be some unknown place, like the Tajikistan.
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>>80988761
Why the fuck have they not invested in finding an alternative form already?
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>>80969672

>A bilingual "Greek Turkish Confederation" (East Mediterranean Confederation) between Greece, Turkey and Cyprus (with national capitals in Athens, Ankara and Nicosia, and Confederation parliament in Istanbul) would (to an extent) be a reincarnation of the Byzantine/Ottoman Empires; thus filling the political, cultural and economic vacuum that's left behind by the absence of these two historic superpowers in the East Mediterranean region. It would have the largest economy and military in the area covering the Balkans, the Middle East, the East Mediterranean, the Caucasus and Central Asia, and become one of the key global great powers due to its geographic location.

W H E N
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E
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>>80988988
What else they gonna do, export sand?
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>>80988988
YOLO
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May all those who died rest in peace.

>Except ISIS, fuck ISIS
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>>80989313
>Hezbollah patch
>Naruto memorabilia

Do you think he frequently posted on /a/?
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>>80988988
Nuclear is the only alternative, or hydroelectric

Renewable like, air, and sun is a meme at this point.
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>>80989251
>YFW Saudi's import hundreds of thousand tons of sand.
>Really, seriously, they import sand. Their sand can't be used for construction.
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>>80989439
Wouldn't shock me.
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>>80989453
But for transportation goods and services, what do you invest in?
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>>80989247
>W H E N

When Anatolia becomes Christian again.
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Who made these cringy new watermark for Ivan?
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>>80988988

Biofuels take to much energy to make. We do have electric cars, and that is definitely the future. Watch how the auto industry is going to change over night when Tesla sells Model 3s en masse in the next few years.
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>>80989704
Chile-bro. And don't hate. Shit's tight.
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>>80989767
But electricity requires coal, there needs to be an alternative to that too.
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>>80989644
Depends on the area. and tech advances long term.

>It may be more viable to build actual electric cars then build alt fuel fleets.
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>>80989644
>But for transportation goods and services, what do you invest in?

Nuclear trains.

http://barentsobserver.com/en/sections/society/russia-designs-nuclear-train
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>>80989458

Such a fucking useless country. Their oil industry, which is pretty much their only industry, is 80% run by foreigners because their own people are too stupid. They live off welfare.

My God, can a country be more of a meme.
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>>80989978
You can build nukes to power cars.
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>>80969672
Syrian Rebels?

Oh you mean the mercinaries the CIA hired to put assad out?

Who miserably failed...
And now arent being paid...
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>>80989992
>>80990049
>Fallout wasn't a game
>It was a prophetic and entertaining warning
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>>80990007
Think on the bright side, it makes south africa today look good. And Somalia is even more shitty.

Though the Kingdom spends all that money on defense and they are still incompetent.
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>>80989453
no true but no point in arguing here.
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>>80970125
>>80970340
Jesus this interviewer is such a cringelord
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Do you agree with this statement from the NBC interview?
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>>80990212
More people have died falling off windmills then radiation from commercial nuclear plants.

For example, the only people who died from fukushima was two workers who drowned when the tidal waves came in.
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>>80990237
If it wasn't for terrorism I wouldn't mind spending tourist money on somalia, their capital have good weather.
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>>80989978

Coal is already dead my nigga. I believe the last major coal manufacturer in the US is about to lay off 80% of its staff.

Wind, solar and hydro can generate enough energy. There are multiple storage techs being developed to store energy, many in beta.
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>>80989247
Nobody in the Balkans or Caucasus would agree to join that Confederation.

And it offers no benefits to Greece or Cyprus to be locked into a union with 65 million roaches and 15 million kurds, when there are fewer then 13 million Greeks in Greece & Cyprus.

pic related, superior unions to restore balance of power to the eastern Mediterranean
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>>80990357
bullshit but i have no interest in discussing that in this thread
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>>80990007
I worked in Dubai, everything is so backwards and outdated. Only the foreigners know what the hell they're doing. The citizens absolutely just live of welfare, they get paid for marrying others of their same kind and having children.

If you're not a citizen or white you're basically treated like dirt, lowest common denominator. They fire people without a reason in order to hire their own.
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>>80990453
Wind and solar are memes. You have to build standby power stations for them which actually cause more pollution and make them uneconomic.
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>>80990482
>superior unions
listen kid, turkey is the biggest regional power and that wont change, deal with it
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>>80989251
It's called investing in science and technology.

The Saudis have immeasurable investing power. State owned Aramco is so large that the company's real value is unknown, estimated to be anywhere between 1 Trillion and 10 Trillion dollars. Can you imagine the sheer scale of such a company? They could wave their hands and buy entire industries. Take over big pharma, stem cell technologies, get into CRISPR gene editing, clean energy. Heck, they could just become VCs and flip the entire Silicon Valley table. But no, instead they stick mostly to welfare retard tier markets like real estate and oil.
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>>80990482
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
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>>80990538

It's going to be interesting to see all the skilled foreigners return back to their countries of origin because the petroleum industry can't pay outlandish salaries anymore. Basically Somalia 2.0, just with prettier buildings.
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>>80990507

Radiation exposure was not responsible for the deaths of six workers helping to contain the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, a U.N. committee said in a preliminary assessment Wednesday.

Based on information available so far, their deaths are attributable to cardiovascular disease or other reasons, according to the report compiled by the U.N. Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation.

One of the six died of acute leukemia, but radiation exposure was ruled out as a cause because the time between possible exposure and death was so short, the committee said.
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>>80969672
Picture could have been better
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>>80990661
Yes, and to correct that the Orthodox countries of the Balkans and Caucasus should form a confederation of their own.

Turkey is a internally unstable mess hostile to every country it borders, and in turn all of its neighbours are hostile to it.

Better that they join resources in the face of such an unpredictable and unstable regional farce.
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>>80990922
How long before that happens? I literally cannot wait.
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>>80990507
>I am wrong so I have no intention of discussing it.

The death toll from coal is staggering compared to Nukes, by the way -- and the radiation released is higher.
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Watching assad's interview I noticed this

https://telegram.me/SyrianPresidency

Can some of you telegramfags if it is that a official channel to comunicate with the syrian goverment? Maybe we can use it to call a new airstrike
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>>80990614

I think you're believing the meme, friend. Tell me of a place on earth where both the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. And you can always import energy from other countries.
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>>80990614
How does a standby plant cause more pollution then relying on only traditional plants?
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These threads would actually be interesting if there was less Assad ass licking and more actual information and maps.

>inb4 maps are in the link look them up yourself

What use is a /sg/ thread that is just 90% spam bumps?

Not trying to be an ass, OK maybe a bit of an ass with pointing out the high level of Assad ass licking but it is true, but would like to see this thread evolve into something more than a circle jerk with random information thrown in.
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>>80991080

This is the news just today. Hopefully it will be pretty soon.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3/cdb02eee-4915-11e6-8d68-72e9211e86ab.html#axzz4EPa6onUa
http://www.pravdareport.com/business/finance/13-07-2016/135003-saudi_arabia-0/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2016/07/12/saudi-recession/#7b2e3f6d4615
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>>80991230
you are aware that windturbines require set speeds? if the wind is too slow they actually drain power from the grid (as it takes power to operate the transmission equipment) and if they go too fast they disconnect the power generator for safety reasons.

Most are designed that under 3 knots and over 20 knots they do not work. Also they do not last long as hoped for.

Solar has huge issues on it own.
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>>80990482
Proper re-Hellenization of Turkey , a push back of Kurdish breeders that migrated all over Anatolia and giving much of eastern Turkey back to Armenia, Georgia and Kurdistan would be delightful.
Basically the Map without Italy and with only a south small part of Crimea. The map is quite crappy unfortunately.
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>Houthi forces launch new offensive to capture key district in northern Yemen
>Saudi Air Force bombs their own forces in Yemen
can these be sourced?
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>>80991178
Problem with normies is that coal kill people all over the place, it's just like car crashes.
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>>80991411
FRESH MAP Todays military events in Syria

As always corrections/suggestions/additions welcome
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>>80991411
We used to have quite a few dedicated people who made an effort to post articles and compiled information. Low IQ roachposting mostly pushed them away I think
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>>80991811
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Heт
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>>80991689
Awesome
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>>80991411
Then go to Reddit and join in the kurds and rebel circle-jerking there.
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How is the Based lion so fuckiung good at interviews. He completely destroys every western reporter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb_Lq1VrTxM
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>>80991402
Standby power is generally natural gas, but sometimes they are coal/oil or nuclear.

These power plants have to provide power as soon as a wind or solar plant power production drops. Since they take a while to start up, you have to keep them on at all times at low power states. low power states are very polluting and inefficient. It is a reduction of pollution if the are using gas as a backup (as natural gas is a lot cleaner then coal) but you are better off just building the natural gas plants and running them efficiently.
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>>80991411
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>>80991887


Thanks anon.
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>>80992178
if this is true why don't environmentalists know this?
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>>80992178
To be clear - I do think that solar and wind have a place in energy production, but more of "On site power production to reduce the use of grid power" Then "Produce grid power with wind/solar"

so for example, putting up some solar cells to reduce your electric bill is a cool thing. Trying to run the power grid off solar or wind is silly.


and back on topic.
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>>80992168
>youre besieging poor dying starving kids in Darayya (completely ignoring Foua/Kefraya)
>please tell me you prefer Trump over Hillary so I can take a juicy headline away from this
>is this justification for civilian targeting untargeted barrel bombing what you tell your children at breakfast
Make it stop.
The australian SBS interview was a lot less cringy

>>80992336
I post them everyday

Just wade through some shitposting and youll find some decent updates posted here.
More Assad "asslicking"/talk might be because of the released interview
But lurking/posting here youre going to have to either accept or try to ignore the pro-Assad bias because its just the nature of this general
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>>80992638
Environmentalists are more about feelings then actual facts. For example, if you want clean energy, the best way is to roll out Geothermal, Natural Gas, hydro, and nuclear power and replace all coal and oil plants. But selling the idea of dams or more nuclear power plants is a non-starter in the green community.
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>>80991887

This is a good post.

>>80992104
>>80992251

These are the majority of /sg/ posts.

You are not part of the solution, you are part of the cancer.

Syria just looks like the new cesspool of the Middle East with no hope in the near future.

If Assad wins, the rich elites will stay rich, the poor majority will stay poor, militant, and lead to more terrorist activity both in Syria and exported to other countries.

If Assad loses, will be a Shia purge which will just trigger more Iranian and possible Russian involvement for even more bloodshed and possible escalation to war outside of Syria

Seems the best solution is a peace settlement and balkanization. The rich get to keep their peice, the Russians get their base or bases, the Sunnis get to rule themselves, the Kurds get to rule themselves.

Still could be issues with Turkey but coming to terms and then globally removing ISIS should be the first step.
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>>80992896
>Make it stop.
>The australian SBS interview was a lot less cringy
wait til he starts screaming about war crimes and how assad will be charged etc

>>80992950
>Environmentalists are more about feelings then actual facts.
agreed but you'd think some of them (especially the ones that are politicians) would look this shit up.

But yeah wasn't the green party in Germany responsible for closing down the nuclear power plants? Now they are investing in several new coal plants. I just don't get "green" politicians. wtf
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>>80993311
I think you think too highly of elected officals
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>>80993107
>t. texan
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http://khabaragency.net/news65527.html

claims a Saudi Jet was shot down.
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>>80993639
phone battery was low
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>>80993441
>I think you think too highly of elected officals
no but I assume someone somewhere lays out the truth for them.
too bad
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>>80993639
>claims a Saudi Jet was shot down.
>jet

HOW
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>>80993955
If I am reading it right (non-native arab speaker, my wife is a alawite and I still screw up on it) I think it said it was shot down by Yemen air defenses.
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>>80970651
the potato is mad :^)
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>>80993107
>the rich elites will stay rich, the poor majority will stay poor
And this is different from any other middle eastern country or wait, even America or Europe, how?

Assad winning, restabilizing Syria and curbing out remaining Nusra elements will cause FAR LESS terrorism in and from Syria, than al-Nusra winning and declaring a caliphate will

>the Sunnis get to rule themselves
That essentially means allowing al-Nusra to establish an Idlib caliphate instead which would still be a cesspool of terrorism. Which international party is going to force al-Nusra to the negotiating table if they have all other opposition groups by the balls, outnumbered and they have de facto control over almost entire Idlib? Nobody will. What we will have is a decade of terrorism in the middle east based from Idlib, until USA decides that its time to wipe them out. Itll be ISIS all over again.

"Sunnis ruling themselves" sounds like youre stuck in 2011 or 2012. The reality has changed. No peaceful Sunni group controls a territory in Syria and a democratic secular Sunni government cannot be suddenly imposed on the opposition-controlled territories of significant size (Daraa, Idlib and arguably northern Homs)
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>>80974118
Damn, nice plate
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>>80993808
>tfw I translated that post a couple of years ago and it's still around
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>>80990316
Diversity of barrel bombs?
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>>80993107
>If Assad wins, the rich elites will stay rich, the poor majority will stay poor, militant, and lead to more terrorist activity both in Syria and exported to other countries.
but Syria will be sovereign
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>>80990316
He is the leader of all the minorities and half of the Sunni fighting Sunni radicals.
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slooooowly
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>>80991178
jep radiation never killed anyone...
you don't have to wear sunscreen bc. there is no evidence that sunlight might kill you instantly....

skin cancer however...

as i said no interest in discussing your shitty talking points.
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TAKBIR!
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By the way, it's me totallynotakurdlivingingermanywhobegsfordonations.
Is Otto dead, yet?
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>>80995358
Sadly, he is still alive
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>>80995091
Manbij has been besieged for 35 days now, since 9th of June

Some people stated at first that itd be taken in days, kek

Though I must admit the SDF/YPG+CJTF-OIR/USAF has made respectable advances.

>>80995358
Youre that "muh Abu Allaj"-fund posting guy?
And nope.
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>>80995358
>totallynotakurdlivingingermanywhobegsfordonations
You fucking suckers, was today a day of action of some kurdish organization? Saw a booth for free kurdistan on my way home today.
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>>80995459
>Some people stated at first that itd be taken in days, kek
And I'm glad that most parties in Syria have started to think before rushing into urban combat and are willing to wait some time
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Any updates on the situation in northwestern Aleppo? What do you guys thing will happen once the rebels are cut off and surrounded? Will they surrender or will there be a counter offensive to free them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI0h8-00JsE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXJw50pWLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfg804lrB74
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>If Assad wins(...) lead to more terrorist activity both in Syria and exported to other countries.
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>>80993107
You sound like those self-declared "realist" columnists over at Foreign Policy. Making up your own "what if" scenario rarely yields any significant insight.

The conflict in Syria may have had elements of class warfare in the beginning (Rami Makhlouf comes to mind. There is a reason the first rebels burned the Syriatel building in Daraa right after attacking the government building.), but it stopped being about that the moment foreign powers stepped in, which one could argue was from the start.

>muh revolt of the poor

The terrorist activity will mostly cease when the conflict is deemed no longer profitable by the foreign powers funding the rebels. Assad does not need to eliminate every single rebel, he just needs to make sure the rebels are no longer a sound investment.
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>>80995459
Abu Leila, actually. And yes. I wasn't here for weeks.
>>80995506
>day of action
Like...every day? Some Unterschicht Kurdish bike gangs have started to beat up Turkish bike gangs now, though. A total mess.
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>>80995721
Well, we know one of the Islamist groups has already given up.

https://twitter.com/velvetart/status/753212860302520321
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>>80996139
>action would be suicidal.
kek, since when did this stop jihaidists?
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>>80995094
you might not like to hear it, but exactly ZERO people have died to the Japanese radiation That right, Zero.

Excluding shitty Russian reactor designs (RBMK) the death toll from commercial reactors are the following.

3 fatalities – SL-1 accident
2 fatalities – Tokaimura nuclear accident
1 fatality - INES level 4

A lot more have died from screwups with cancer radiation medicine then commercial reactors if you exclude the RBMK.

Sorry Hans if that doesn't meet your views on nuclear power.
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>>80996076
excuse my brainfart, of course Abu Leyla
Abu Allaj is that village in western Raqqa
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http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160714/1042928221/israeli-bulldozers-enter-the-dmz.html

Israeli Bulldozers Enter DMZ with Tanks in Tow
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With the backing of tanks, Israeli military bulldozers have entered the demilitarized zone that divides Israel and the Syrian Golan areas, constructing a set of anti-tank trenches and fortifications 300-500 meters inside the DMZ.

This is the first time that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have operated openly on the Syrian side of the border since the beginning of the Syrian civil war some five years ago. No opposition or protest from Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus has been offered.
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>>80996302
lol, I know right? But it does show that they are already giving up somewhat.
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>>80996306
What you think about the new sodium cooled russian design?
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>>80996673
I do not know many details of the BN-800 (know more about the BN-600) but the BN-800 is supposed to be not much changed from the BN-600 except the fuel that it uses.

The BN-600 is a good design. Due to Carter we cant really make these reactors in the US. Key thing is who the Russians sell it to, as it could be easily converted to produce Weapon grade fission material.
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Latakia offensive is really failing to pick up steam, I am kind of disappoint.

One hill lost last night, one hill recaptured this morning, yawn
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By the way, the kurddish KDPI Peshmerga started the armed struggle in Iran again, after 20 years. If it spreads, it could divert some Iranian support capacities for Assad.
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>>80997392
The primary focus is darayya, east ghouta, and Aleppo. Once darayya is liberated or the Aleppo offensive is successful in securing it's objectives, then the shift will be on lattakia.
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>>80997881
I guess youre right, man

Maybe Masdar overhyped and exaggerated the "Latakia offensive" they were talking about
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>>80997521
>Kurds are chimping out in their native country of Iran because of muh k*rdistan

No surprise really. They irgc is not an incompetent and weak military force like most Arab militaries. They will put down the insurrection harder than the Turks on the kurdish pkk.
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>>80994585

Sunnis winning would not be a caliphate

Shias winning is much closer to an actual caliphate with Iran, Shia controlled Iraq and Syria. That would be a possible caliphate and one not to be taken lightly.

You really think that if Assad wins that the Sunnis in Syria and Iraq are not going to continue to focus on terrorism? That doesn't make any sense.

Assad is an oppressor, one that has lost much of his military power. Stability would at best be a very small area with the rest becoming an ungoverned wild zone of terrorist training and discontent.

There are no peaceful Shia in Syria either. They whole country is at war.

I'm no fan of Muslims, the world would be better without them. ISIS is the biggest problem, then Sunni and then Shia, from a propensity to be extremist and violent perspective but a Shia caliphate or the possibility of one is no victory either.

Plenty of Sunnis in Syria and Iraq. They are either going to get to govern themselves or there never will be true stability in the Middle East.

This could be the time to redraw the Shia, Sunni, Kurd lines so at least there is a slightly better chance for stability. Stability won't happen in the short term but a balkanized Syria is the best chance.
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>>80998200
>kurds chimping out in syria
>kurds chimping out in iraq
>kurds chimping out in iran
>kurds chimping out in turkey

That's madness.
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>>80996306
first you say radiation never killed anyone...
now you come up with some numbers but exclude significant data

it's just pointless discussing with shitheads like you as you just don't want to understand how radiation kills you by destroying your dna and thus giving you cancer...

if i would provide data about higher cancer rates next to those shity reactors and places you store the waste you will just start the discussion from the beginning or throw a hissy fit about coal... it's pointless.
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>>80998357
Don't forget europe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOoZUY4WW3E
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>>80991811
While I wish your dream would come true, I think you've sort of stopped to consider how it could come about in reality.

Pic related is my best attempt at a 'realistic' repartioning of Turkey and the resulting new borders.

Also some work in the balkans as well.
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>>80994963

Yes, because minority dictators work so well against a majority populous.

>>80995040

If he was the leader of half the Sunnis and all of the minorities, this would all ready be over.

>>80996043

The Sunnis that were there in the beginning are still there. They are fighting against the minority dictator for the same reasons they rebelled in the beginning. Because they have been joined by extremists does not change their situation.

Disenfranchised Sunnis will continue to be a terrorist threat into the foreseeable future. I'm not sure there is any reason to think this is not going to happen.
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>>80998592
>first you say radiation never killed anyone...
No, I said no one died from the Japanese accident from radiation.

>ow you come up with some numbers but exclude significant data

Tell me which commercial reactor data I am excluding that not RBMK reactor?
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>>80998200
>They irgc is not an incompetent and weak military force
I bet they aren't much better than the t*rks
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>>80998712
Many of the fighters in fighting for the FSA and ISIS are not even Syrian.
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>>80998712
>Yes, because minority dictators work so well against a majority populous.
worked until rival nations started a proxy war, m8

rather have a minirty rule whee minorities are respectad than a majority Sunni rule where the minorities will be genocided or driven out
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>>80998942

That why I put "joined by extremists", if anything you are making my point that the Syrian Sunnis still have a valid issue with a lack of representation within the Assad dictatorship.

It's a situation that will not be easily rectified.
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>>80998678
The lack of snackbars trouble me.
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>>80998215
>Sunnis winning would not be a caliphate
Once again how are you going to realise that if al-Nusra has de facto control of Idlib and parts of Daraa and Homs

Youre out of touch with the reality on the ground.

>actual caliphate with Iran, Shia controlled Iraq and Syria
Show me how Iran controls Syria? Syria has been a close ally to Iran for long now but Assad and Syrian government have done their own governance, not Iran's.

>You really think that if Assad wins that the Sunnis in Syria and Iraq are not going to continue to focus on terrorism?
Hold on, so because terrorists are going to be terrorists, its better to give them their own state? What the fuck, that literally GUARANTEES a terrorist state! Many Sunnis live peacefully in government controlled areas - heck, many government officials, most SAA soldiers and even Assads wife are Sunni

>Assad is an oppressor
Thats a buzzword people just LOVE to sling around, but how exactly? Political criticism freedom in Syria is and was limited, yes, but beside that Syria was a nation where people could literally do whatever the fuck they wanted. There was no mass government control over do's and don't's like in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

>There are no peaceful Shia in Syria either.
This war wouldnt have started without Sunni insurgency. Thats a fact. You can counter with "this war wouldnt have started without Assad", but if a democratic secular government with a different president were to be installed, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO FIGHT AL-NUSRA and you know that thats true.
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>>80998712
>Disenfranchised Sunnis will continue to be a terrorist threat into the foreseeable future. I'm not sure there is any reason to think this is not going to happen.
then they should have choosen a peacefull way and campaigned for a referendum to become indipendant like the UK and other civilized nations have done.
Now they'll get waht they deserve from Assad
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>>80998883
Turks are not awful fighters. They are actually a good comparison - solid armed forces using older western gear mixed with indigenous weapon systems. .
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>>80998883
Probably, who knows? The military of Iran has suffered greatly as a result of the sanctions; the military is beginning to crumble as a result of their tanks, jets, and other armory are no longer receiving proper maintenance in due part for lack of parts.
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>>80999318
That a nationalist fight, not a religous one.

So they are more likely to scream "Şehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez" then Snackbar
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>>80999181

It worked pretty well for the King of France until he got his head cut off.

The majority of a people that decide they are no longer going to be oppressed is a force that can not be ignored.

Much like the French Revolution, the minorities did quite a lot to deserve their deaths.

That's why balkanization is likely the best of several bad answers.

Least amount of genocide and best chance for ongoing stabililty.
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>>80999556
I know I know, but when I'm watching chimp outs with liveleak watermark I expect snackbars.
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>>80979535
damn man! fucking saved!
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>>80998681

Whoah, that's horseshit.

You should definitely include all of the Aegean coast, and the Mediterranean coast all the way to Cyprus.

The eastern Black Sean provinces of T*rkey are unfortunately extremely çomarized. Le Grand Sultan himself was from there.

Also Arm*nians are shit.
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>>80975217
It's just an excuse for going outside and having a good time you salty cunt.
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>>80998805
so tell me why are the japanese restricting access to large areas in that province ?
why are they removing the top soil in even bigger areas?
you actaully try to tell me that nobody will get cancer because of what happened there..?
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>>80969672

Is this real?

I happened upon this picture by chance today and I literally dropped my water bottle.
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>>80998215
>Shias winning is much closer to an actual caliphate with Iran, Shia controlled Iraq and Syria. That would be a possible caliphate and one not to be taken lightly.
isn't the biggest threat of a Shia caliphte the fact that your government erased iraq and now Iran is slowly anexxing it with bought iraqi politicians?

>>80999718
>It worked pretty well for the King of France until he got his head cut off.
Not the ame thing, and they weren't funded by other powers to overthrow France....well maybe they got some funding from (((them)))

>That's why balkanization is likely the best of several bad answers.
nope will elad to a terrorist state. The sunnis will not be peacefull. there is no way you can convince me of this
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>>80999718
>The majority of a people
It was never the majority of the people, and thats exactly why this "revolution" failed, how the "secular democratic" elements of the revolution were BY FAR not big enough to remove Assad without it becoming a jihadist cesspool

Try learning a bit more about whats going on in Syria. For starters read pic related.

Most sane Syrians would probably agree that the Syrian government is corrupt and needs change, but its clear that the current opposition is NOT GOING TO DELIVER a better government - at all. In fact, biggest groups like al-Nusra & Ahrar al-Sham oppose democracy and call it a "western invention"

On the contrary the Syrian government HAS actually made small steps to more democracy with the multi-party system and more presidential candidates which hopefully will be expanded upon in the future - if the West had remained neutral throughout all this, perhaps countries like USA or France would be invited to monitor the Syrian elections, and THEN you couldve raised VALID POINTS towards democratization of Syria if problems are detected in the process - supporting al-Nusra and splitting up the country is not a valid point for "more democracy or freedom"
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>>80991887
So, as a person who's not taking geographic stuff like those deserts making up most of ISIS gains etc. Some things seem kind of weird, can someone care to elaborate?

How aren't the rebels at #2 completely crushed as well as SAA at #6 and ISIS at #5 due to encirclement? Or are they just starving them out for good while concentrating troops on other fronts and keeping just the right amount to prevent breakthrough?
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>مقتل عنصر من حزب الله هو حسن صالح بالغارات الاسرائيلية على القنيطرة فجراً وكان الطيران الاسرائيلي قصف مواقع للنظام ادت الى سقوط قتلى
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>>81000883
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>>81000540
I am just here to point out that in the previous Presidential election, the USA (not sure about France), did take part in monitoring it. A sad fact is that Syrians living here in the USA were forbidden from voting. Boy, my country sure does love that democracy except for when everyone votes for the guy they(usa) don't like.
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>>81000034
People who lived near the plant obtained 1 millisievert and 10 millisieverts of radiation. you need 100 millisievert of radiation to increase your chance of getting cancer by .5%. The only people who obtained that amount of radiation was the 167 workers who shut the plant down. So in 30 years you are expecting extra 8-9 cancers total.

While for example, 420 workers are expected to die just in the US in windmill accidents in those 30 years.
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VIDEO INSIDE

#Video by Aamaq showing wreckage of MiG-23 SAA jet downed by #ISIS south Deir Ezzor. Pilot killed

https://twitter.com/ConflictNews1/status/753687000373493760
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>>81000540
good read desu
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>>81001242
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/06/10/energys-deathprint-a-price-always-paid/#7647884449d2

Here is a article that goes over how many deaths per Terawatt by each means of production.
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>>80999345

If there were meetings with a democratic Sunni leadership group and discussions of a settlement, then you could start to separate the moderates from the radicals. A moderate with little hope becomes a radical to easily.

If there was a plan to create a Shia area, a Sunni area, and a Kurd area there could be a realignment of forces for a common goal. Sunni groups not willing to go along with the plan would need to be weeded out just like ISIS needs to be weeded out now.

I'm not trying to make it sound easy, it won't be but it won't be any different than it is now just more cooperation with moderate Sunnis and Kurds. The benefit for Syria and specifically Shias in Syria is a better chance for long term stability and they will likely be getting the more productive areas.

Iran is pumping money into Syria like no tomorrow. Even you can't deny that. The Shias in Syria will be weakened, the shia government in Iraq is concerned about the power of the al Douri faction. All are facing the openly active Saudis who support any anti Shia movement. The timing has never been better.

A majority in their own country should not be oppressed just because they can be. If they are, it is likely they will fight back. It's just a fact.

Read up on the Arab spring in Syria. He was an oppressor.

The war wouldn't have started without Assad oppression. We could keep doing this all day.

It's not who the good guys are or who started it, the only logical thing to focus on now is how to best end it.

That is my main point.

>>80999378

If you know that unrest is coming, why not fix the problem?
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>>81001242
Germans shut down their nuclear reactors so they can enable to coal fired power plant.. For the environment.

kek
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>>81001242
Oops, did my math wrong, its .835 cancers in 30 years, not 8.35.
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>>81000883
>Quneitra on the dawn Israeli warplanes bombed sites system led to deaths

I'm going to try to fix the Google translate gobbledygook.

>In the morning, Israeli warplanes systematically bombed various sites in quneitra which led to many civilian deaths.

Did I do good?
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>>81001420
>why not fix the problem?
because giving the Sunnis a piece of Syria to create a terror state funded by Saudi Arabia is not fixing the problem
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>>80991976
Romaniabro keeps posting useful links. I also post some. And Ive seen other posters of useful links. The thing I think this guy is complaining is they get lost in all the spam.
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>John Kerry in Moscow to Talk Syria With President Putin
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>>81001557
Well Germans are a odd bunch. They are afraid of their own shadow.
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>>81001769
I left for a few months, and only now catching up. Still not posting much since I still catching up myself.
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>>81000304

A Shia Iraq does not help. There is no argument there.

Still the same thing, the funding is irrelevant. An oppressed people that no longer choose to be oppressed is the problem. Whether they are using guns from another country or pitchforks is not the main issue.

A self governed Sunni region will be more peaceful than an oppressed Sunni region. When dealing with Muslims, guaranteeing peace is a fools bet but at least you can hedge the bets.

>>81000540

It was the majority of the people, then IS came to the party and it turned into a shit storm. Read up on the Arab Spring in Syria. Things have changed since the beginning but if you think the majority of the people, the Sunnis, don't want a bigger say in their own governance, then you are kidding yourself.
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>US reveals Isis commander was not killed in March airstrike

The Pentagon has admitted it did not kill a senior Islamic State operative in a March airstrike that the Obama administration made a talking point for success in the two-year war in Iraq and Syria.

Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told reporters on Thursday that Tarkhan Tayumurazovich Batirashvili, also known as Abu Omar al-Shishani or Omar the Chechen, is now believed to have attended a 10 July meeting of Isis officials near Mosul, the jihadist army’s Iraqi capital, that was targeted in a US airstrike.

Cook said he was “not able to confirm” that Shishani was killed this time, although on Wednesday Isis announced through its propaganda agency that Shishani was dead.

“Indications [are] he was present” at the targeted 10 July meeting, Cook said, adding that earlier intelligence “led us to believe he had been killed” in March.

“We believed the assessment in March was correct, and received information that he was still alive,” Cook said, characterizing this as “very recent information” and denying that the Pentagon had intentionally avoided walking back its high-profile March assessment.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/14/us-isis-commander-not-killed-march-airstrike
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>>81000838
As far as I know, this year the rebels at #2, an area usually known as the "Homs pocket" or "Rastan pocket", have not been subjected to any heavy offensives

The area is probably of a lesser importance than other areas exactly because it is isolated. Smuggled goods probably make their way in, but manpower isnt exactly expanding much compared to rebel or ISIS areas that have borders with other countries

Area at #6, Deir ez-Zor, is a frequent topic here. government forces have held out there for a long time now. Their lifelines are: a functional airbase which most of the time allows helicopters or planes landing, UN airdrops, and effective experienced defensive troops in well established defensive positions

>>81001179
Hold up youre saying the USA had election monitors INSIDE Syria? I dont think so man
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>>81001567
I don't know how I feel about that logo desu, the one with Assad.
He kinda looks like he's pulling a troll face - not very serious really.
Still cool though.
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>>81002055
But it has been confirmed that he died by ISIS itself in a later battle?
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>>81001603
>> Killing component of Hezbollah, Hassan Saleh, Israeli raids on the Kenitra dawn Israeli warplanes bombed positions of the system led to the deaths

No, only one guy named Hassan Saleh supposedly Hezbollah.
source is @rotternet btw.
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>>81001959
Genuine question here. Do you see no hope at al of Sunnis one day living peacefully with the other groups of Syria?
Myself I'm not so sure but one can hope

>A self governed Sunni region will be more peaceful than an oppressed Sunni region
I highly disagree
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>>81002257
they might be lying to get the heat of him
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>>81002234
That was my thought too. A more formal Assad would have looked great
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>>81002257
>>81002443
Yeah, I think they wanted him off the radar and declared him dead
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>>81001643

Do you consider Saudia Arabia a terrorist state?

Do you consider Iran a terrorist state?

Do you consider all Sunnis terrorists?

Both have funded terrorists in the past.

Why would a Sunni region be more of a terrorist state than Saudia Arabia?

If you think all Sunnis are terrorists, then the only logical answer would be to kill them all, which is not going to happen.

I think between a choice of Sunnis governing themselves and Sunnis falling back under Assad rule, the former is the best chance of stability and the least chance of terrorism.

Not sure why you would think that Sunnis under Assad would not fight back which would be deemed as terrorism.
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>Russia Denies Use of Chemical Weapons in Syria - Foreign Ministry

According to a ministry, opponents of Assad regime have filmed a video that shows the alleged use of ammunition filled with banned chemical agents by Russian and Syrian aircraft in an attack on a settlement near the Syrian-Turkish border that kills civilians, including children.

"The Russian and Syrian aircraft carry out missions exclusively against Islamic State and Nusra Front terrorist groups on request by the Syrian government," the ministry said in a statement.

"Munitions armed with chemical agents are not used in such missions," the ministry stressed.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160714/1042985309/russia-syria-weapons-ministry.html

Take that!
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somebody bake!
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>>81002443
>>81002565
This might be true.

well I have to head on out.
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>>80994814
That's because /UG/ was hilarious full of Hohol shills/proxy/butt-hurt. It's funny how hohols would pretend to be American by acting Nationalistic.I don't think they understand American Patriotism.
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>>81001420
>could start to separate the moderates from the radicals
Kerry has been talking about that for a long time now, no such thing is even remotely happening. Once again I do not see how anyone has the external pressure or leverage to subject al-Nusra to some democratic secular government, this reads like a fairytale in fact.

>Iran is pumping money into Syria like no tomorrow.
Oh I never denied that, so do Russia and China, heck even Czech Republic smells money and made deals for rebuilding Syria

>A majority in their own country should not be oppressed just because they can be.
>Read up on the Arab spring in Syria. He was an oppressor.
While the majority of Syrians may want government improvement and less corruption, it is clear beyond a shadow of doubt that the majority of Syrians never wanted a civil war with al-Qaeda.

I repeat what I said: Syrian government never controlled the do's and dont's of Syrian daily life - and I do not even advocate fucking up Saudi Arabia in a deadly civil war just because the civilians dont live free democratic lives like Europeans (pretty absurd notion that you can just "create" that in the Middle East), so I definitely dont approve of tearing up Syria for the same reason while there was less oppression.

>the only logical thing to focus on now is how to best end it.
Well of course you have a point with this statement, the war has claimed way too many lives already

>>81001959
>It was the majority of the people
So you are equating the armed uprising in Daraa and Idlib with the peaceful protest for democracy in Latakia and Damascus Spring? Dont kid yourself, the latter never wanted the former and the latter clearly dont want an al-Nusra controlled Sunni state because, unlike the armed insurgency, the peaceful protests werent only Sunnis.
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>>81002179
I checked the previous election, it was monitored by some 30+ nations but the usa was not part of the delegation.
>>81002272
Oh well, I tried.
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>>81002567
>Do you consider Saudia Arabia a terrorist state?
yes

>Do you consider Iran a terrorist state?
not to the same extent of SA but thye have used terror groups in the same way

>Do you consider all Sunnis terrorists?
#notallsunnis!!!

>Both have funded terrorists in the past.
agreed

>Why would a Sunni region be more of a terrorist state than Saudia Arabia?
because it would be another Saudi Arabia which I don't want on our planet. Even worse they'd be fresh off a huge civil war with literal jihadis in their governemnt and military.
And they'd get funding from SA and they'd constantly try to take over the rest of SYria


>If you think all Sunnis are terrorists, then the only logical answer would be to kill them all, which is not going to happen.
I don't think that. The countries thye dominate are really really bad places though full of radical muslims

>Not sure why you would think that Sunnis under Assad would not fight back which would be deemed as terrorism.
well they have now and they've failed. I hope the survivors make a choice.Either they fuck off to SA or other wonderful paradises of islam or they stay in Syria, conform and become part of the nation again.

Warring groups have settled their differences before in other countries throughout history. it can happen again
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Anyone baking or should I do it?
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fresh
>>81003419
>>81003419
>>81003419
>>81003419
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Evening. Anyone baking?
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>>80992737
Texas has tons of energy grids that are 100% renewable and cheap. Georgetown is trying to become a city powered by renewable (probably not going to happen), so there is a potential in the future for the rest of the world to be mostly/all renewable.
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>>81001420
>If there was a plan to create a Shia area, a Sunni area, and a Kurd area there could be a realignment of forces for a common goal.
What about the Durze area? The Christian area? The assyrian area? The armenian area?
Why do you arbitrarily select groups of people and give them a country?
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>>81003360
Do it faggot.
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>>81002499
I liked that one.
It's good for war.

Here, have pic related.
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>>81003561
Someone else did faggot.
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>>81002327

I do see it as a possibility but it would require either a police state of biblical proportions (which just delays the battle) or them being given more governmental control over their areas and both would need at least 20 years for things to settle down and even then it is probably 40/60 and dependent on other global variables. There would still be terror attacks within the area by rogue groups, the Sunni masses will likely not care or may even support. So not sure if this fits the definition of peace.

The fact that Assad brought Russia to the party will be something that trouble makers can use to stir up trouble for a very long time.

If the Sunnis were able to rule themselves it may be enough to make them focus on rebuilding instead of continuing the fight. Now they have skin in the game so short term radicalism at the expense of long term benefit is much less attractive.

Sunni manpower for radical groups would also decrease. If any IS or al Nusra camps pop up then the US, Russia, Iraq, Syria, or Israel could fly in bomb them and be mopped up by local Sunni militias. The average Sunni would have something to lose so would be the best chance of gaining some support for the removal of Sunni based terror groups.

I would give this a 60/40 chance of working due to the current world environment. If things cooled down some the percentage would increase.
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>>81001557
falling for stupid memes instead informing yourself..

germany uses less coal than ever before... just fuck off you...
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>>81003601
Thank you brother

Would you like some desert?
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>>81004014
Even by my standards that's pretty fucking awful.
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>>80973543
Abdul, come to daddy !
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>>81000272
It reminds me of this...
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>>81002883

Never said that al Nusra would come to the table, but it may cause some current fighters under the al Nusra banner to move to a more moderate group. al Nusra and IS are promising citizenship for Sunni fighters. If there was a more moderate path than some or even many may follow it.

You said Iran has no control over Syria, giving a country money does yield some level of control if even a small amount. You didn't commit on the point that with a weakened Shia Syria and a nervous Shia Iraq that the time has never been better for Iran to make a move.

al Qaeda was a wild card that did not exist in the beginning. Once they are removed, which they will be if Assad wins, the situation will go right back to where it was when the rebellion started. Actually it will be an even worse powder keg because of the post war destruction.

Read up on Syrian Arab Spring. Assad was starting to jail people speaking out for more control. Not a good way to keep the majority passive and quiet.

I only post on this thread because I find it odd all of the Assad love, Syria will be a shit hole for a very long time no matter who wins. An Assad win will just mean more attacks from Sunnis. A Sunni win will mean heightened tension with Russia and Iran. The best bad answer is some form of compromise so the focus can be on removing extremists and starting to rebuild so all of the "refugees" can go home or at least stay home.

Muslims are more hostile than most other people. I do think that Daraa started fairly well but quickly went to shit. Assadists say the rebels fire first, rebels say it was the Assadists, no one will ever know the truth but the step to violence on both sides was very quick, even for Muslims.
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>>81005067
Post your replies in the new thread, no one is watching this anymore.
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