I know a holocaust survivor. She's about 90 or so and has the blue ink mark tattoo from auschwitz. I've never asked her for any details, but is /pol/ really going to tell me that she lied about the whole thing? I'm genuinely curious.
>>80915321
Stab her in the neck. Along with Merkel.
>>80915321
She's alive isn't she? Is that not proof enough?
You didn't ask anything. What was there to lie about?
>>80915321
No one denies concentration camps. It's the lack of gas chambers they get up in arms about
>>80915321
Does she claim she personally saw the nazis killing 6 million jews?
How does knowing a holocaust survivor proves anything?
>Death Camp Survivor
Ayylmao
so many survivors
really makes you think...
Weren't women executed upon arrival according to the 'official story'? So why the fuck are there female auschwitz survivors?
Or did she hide from the gas underneath a masturbation machine?
>>80915539
German efficiency is highly overrated.
>>80915321
She was in a work camp you dumb goy
>>80915321
>never asked for the details
>are you calling her a liar?
Maybe you should ask her opinion before we either support or shut it down
But yeah she is alive so those "death camps" must be real
Either way the Jew lie has done its damage so why even bother debating it now when we could be talking about how Americas legal system and inability to prosecute an obvious criminal has revealed the evil dictatorship that controls your country?
>>80915591
Why were there so many survivors of a death camp?
>>80915985
You tell me.
Whether or not it was designed as a death camp, it certainly became one when the supply lines were cut off later in the war and people were dying of disease and starvation.
The fact that the Jews were imprisoned in the first place, for nothing more than being Jews was a crime against humanity.
So while I'm willing to indulge holocaust revisionism, because there certainly is something amiss with the official story and the lack of evidence therefor, and post ironic danke Hitler memes, Hitler wasn't a fucking good guy. Churchill was an asshole too but there was no "St. Adolf" either.
He subverted democracy and ran a fascist regime that deliberately marginalized certain people.
So yeah.. I don't believe that Aushwitz was a deliberate death camp.. but the Prisoners should have been ordered released when they could no longer be cared for later in the war.
Americans pretty much pulled the same shit, but they kept their prisoners alive.
>>80915321
It happened but the numbers dont make sense.
>>80916793
Makes perfect sense. 6 million = ancient Jewish prophecy.
Oy Voy our prophecy came true! 6 gorillion have died.
No 6 Gorillion = No Shoah.
It has to be roughly 6 million, otherwise their religious prophecy hasn't come true.
>>80915321
>I've never asked her for any details
>she lied about the whole thing
Weak bait.
>>80915321
It was all labour camps...some Jews even got married in Auschwitz (just image search it)
They are all just furious that they worked for free and contributed for once
>>80915539
They barely had room to burn/bury the ones they killed. The stench would have been overwhelming more than it probably already was.
Not to mention, the strongest were kept alive purely for slave labor and mengele experiments.
>>80915321
ask her how the number was 6 billion when the tattoos dont go past 6 digits
>>80916694
You seem pretty reasonable to me. The only issue with releasing them was that it's likely the same number of them would die (even more so if they were caught because the Germans would assume they'd escaped). As far as why they were imprisoned in the first place... They tried to overthrow the government twice in the last 50 years prior to the war so the Nazis didn't want to have to fight another front
>>80916694
Actually hitter wanted all Jews out of Germany because the merchant banks (JEWS) were influencing German government and media funny how they took over America and are now about to declare war on Russia and China due to a failing economy.. Tfw you realise Hitler was the good guy!
>>80915321
Holocaust survivors are full of shit, all of their stories are based on paranoia and rumors spread by the inmates.
"Oy vey! They just took David and Anne to the gas chamber!"
"Oy gevalt there are gas chambers? How do you know this?"
"Uh uh uh... someone else told me... you think a Jew would just lie like that?"
Think how paranoid a Jew is on their own, now stick a hundred of them in close proximity for a long duration, and surprise, the Holocaust is born.
>>80915321
>I'm genuinely curious.
Hahahahahaha, almost 90% of /pol/ consists of neo-nazi's.
>>80915321
>90 years old
Leave her alone
Let her live with her jewish bullshit.
She's about to croak any minute anyway.
I don't have a strong opinion on the holocaust but I want to see the arguments this pic creates.
There were camps, Jews died.
That confirms neither the methods nor the numbers.
>>80917187
>Labour Camps
>>80917804
And this. Don't ask for sources. Like I said, don't really care. I just save a lot of info pics like this and I've been here for a long time.
This too
>>80915321
>has the blue ink mark tattoo from auschwitz
what time period was she an inmate?
>>80915321
If she survived the death camp, it wasn't real.
She was at a work camp, not a death camp.
Ask her if they had pools.
Why is every survivor always from Auschwitz?
>>80918012
Oh...you named a picture Holocaust...game over I guess...
Allies bombed the supply routes which were supplying the camps, the guards barely had enough food to feed themselves. That's why it felt intentional to them, they saw the guards eating but they had only small meals, sometimes nothing when things turned really bad
Just like a jew would,they turned around and shat on Germany after having caused the war in the first place with these tremendous jew lies
>>80918012
The fact that these people have clearly been unable to perform labour for weeks and have not been killed should be a red flag about the legitimacy of the holocaust.
>>80918291
Oops, wrong one. Like I said, these are old. Haven't gone through my /pol folder in a while.
>>80917804
The Einsatzgruppen kept official records of many of their massacres and provided detailed reports to their superiors.
Commander SS-Standartenführer Karl Jäger wrote: "I can state today that the goal of solving the Jewish problem in Lithuania has been reached by Einsatzkommando 3. There are no more Jews in Lithuania, apart from working Jews and their families."
Sure, there was no plan to systematically kill Jews.
Fucking cunt.
>>80918299
they were the shit camp
also OP just made up their story and couldn't be fucked to look up any other camp names
>>80918505
They killed people by starvation, too.
>>80918012
>>FAKE
Thats just a bunch of anorexic nudists.
>>80916694
I think imprisoning Jews was something that should have been regarded as an absolute last resort, and only in a transition phase to send them elsewhere.
>>80915321
Picks and time stamp or it didn't happen, also how could we be sure your pic is a legit holocaust tattoo. In fact you're just lying. Fuck off shill
>>80916961
Wouldn't it be bad to force it with fake numbers, assuming their Jewish prophecy was real?
>>80918012
those are starving homeless men in america during the great depression. they are all buried in mass graves in the midwest. they put a wallmart over 1 of them. i think the bodies are under the parking lot
>>80918299
The holocaust is a religious fairytale for the jews, like all their religious tales it's centered around being a victim. Saying you were in Auschwitz makes you famous among the Jews, I'm sure for hundreds of years Jews would lie about escaping egypt with Moses to be famous
>>80915321
yes
now finish the job
>>80918552
>There are no more Jews in Lithuania, apart from working Jews and their families."
f-fucking MASS MURDER
She was happily frolicking in the Auschwitz swimming pool and playing in the orchestra before the allies started bombing supply lines. If the commies weren't so fucking ruthless then maybe Mrs. Goldberg and her tribe would have had enough bagels to ride it out before the war ended and they were safely deported to Palestine with all their wealth intact
Okay, now find 5999999 more
When people say the jews lied about the Holocaust, they're not saying some people didn't get detained, they're saying the situation was more complex than what the normal narrative was.
The jews were being deported and kept in concentration camps and put to work, but a lot of them were left without food due to cutoff supply lines and that's how they started dying. There was also a typhoid outbreak that killed off some more. In the end, the whole thing was just mismanagement on the German part; trying to fight a war AND trying to push immigrants out, so it ended terribly for both. But the jews make it sound like the Germans went out of their way to capture jews and then torture them and murder them in camps. It wasn't that.
Also the total number of deaths is a lot lower than what is said (6 million).
>>80918838
Auschwitz according to jewish religion must have been a sprawling metropolis , NYC doesn't even have 6 million people , does it?
>>80915321
>can you refute my anecdote I have no valid proof of?
>>80918907
>immigrants
>>80918768
The Holocaust is literally ingrained into their religion. No matter what evidence against it is presented, it will always be real in their minds.
>>80919002
Wait..
>1 post by this ID
>>80918016
>1 year, 42 million corpses??????
Auschwitz was operating from September 1941 till January 1945 and killed 1.1 million people.
>400 corpses = 8.3 days therefore 4800 corpses = 1 year and 1 month
Do proper math.
Stupid cunt.
>>80918960
NYC has a population of slightly more than 6 million people.
>>80918340
The game was already over because everybody supports me, but I like pummeling you.
>>80918158
This is a big one.
>The soccer team
British POWs I believe
>Rabbit Breeding
Probably an experiment set up by the same doctor who sewed children together. Eugenics and whatnot
>The old allied bombing supply meme
Germany was an industrial superpower of course they could fix a railway with ease. It wasn't fucking 1835
Half of your other shit isn't even sourced
>>80915321
The camps were there, the people were there. They knew what was up. I don't really know why saying it was not true. Maybe the numbers are not correct, but does that really matter? Is it better just have gassed a few hundredthousands than millions? If that is the line people discuss about it is just stupid.
>>80915321
Of course jews were put into camps idiot, the disputed part is how many died and how they died
>>80918794
Never heard of people moving back?
Stupid nazi.
>>80919098
>and killed 1.1 million people
But the proof, where is it my Jewish friend?
>>80919227
>sewed children together
Jew pls
>>80919261
>Never heard of people moving back?
f-fucking death camps didn't work
>>80915416
>>80915521
>>80915985
Retarded strawmen arguments. Even Elie Wiesel never claimed that the concentration camps were purely death camps. Lots of jews were used for labor. This is well known, it is the official story. Quit strawmanning.
>>80918508
The thing is, they weren't just using gas chambers and whatnot, they were starving people, working people to death, using them for science experiments, etc.
Just something to factor in.
>>80919227
>sewed children together
THE SUPERHUMAN EXPERIMENTAL JUDENJUNGE TO BE USED IN THE WAR AGAINST THE EVIL BOLSHEVIKS.
>>80916694
>Whether or not it was designed as a death camp, it certainly became one when the supply lines were cut off later in the war and people were dying of disease and starvation.
You can thank the Allies for that.
>The fact that the Jews were imprisoned in the first place, for nothing more than being Jews was a crime against humanity.
My great grandfather was a German immigrant and WWI vet, he came to Brazil after the war. During WWII he was arrested solely for being German. He escaped prison thanks to being the founder/president of an important airline. Instead, he got home arrest. My grandmother and her sister were not allowed to speak German at home and couldn't own books written in German.
Nobody makes a scene, but oy voy the 6 gorillion. Japanese Americans were also treated like shit and put into camps, nobody makes the same scandal as they do about a bunch of kikes. Face it, there wasn't a plan to kill all Jews, and they only died because Germans couldn't offer them what they needed after their supply lines were fucked by the allies.
>>80918658
>>80918658
If you wanted to kill an entire group of people why would you go through all this trouble of death camps?
Germany was fighting a war on multiple fronts and needed every man they could spare.
Why would they devote men to guard instead of fight as well as supplies to feed people they were going to kill anyway? Sounds extremely inefficient especially given the circumstances.
Japanese as well as Italian Americans were also put in camps in America during WW2. The difference is there was no fighting on continental US soil so it wasn't like supply lines were cut off and people had to starve as they did in Germany.
Were there even 6 million Jews in all of Western Europe to kill?
>>80919373
Look it up, look it up,
>>80919621
Isn't Holocaust denial illegal in Germany Kraut?
>>80919238
>Maybe the numbers are not correct, but does that really matter?
Yes, the truth matters.
Don't worry though, just admitting the possibility that the numbers are not correct is a crime in your country. Hope you don't get taken in. Today there was a nationwide raid in Germany to detain people who defended Hitler on Facebook. 60 people jailed. Will you be next, Klaus? Time will tell.
>>80917477
>Not to mention, the strongest were kept alive purely for slave labor and mengele experiments.
I heard Mengele trained a dog to memorize classical music, and viciously attack jews who played a notes inaccurately.
>>80918658
Must have run out of poison gas and bullets along with other resources, they had secret food reserves though and intentionally let them just sit and starve.
>>80919037
>jews are not from the middle east
>>80917557
The digits were the specific camp. The 6 Million number is also based around pre-war census data, Nazi records of practices, and post war Census data.
You can argue all day that the 6 Million number is a Statistical guess. What is not really up for argument however is that Millions of Jews were killed in some form or another. Be it in a death camp, pogrom, starvation, disease or whatever. What is also not up for debate was that all of it was part of a state goal by the German state to exterminate those same populations.
>>80915321
>1 post by this ID
"I never asked her for any details, but is /pol/ really going to tell me that she lied about the whole thing"
Just cuck my logic up anon
>>80915321
yes, theres no real video footage of gas chambers
therefore its fake
>>80919698
>Were there even 6 million Jews in all of Western Europe to kill?
"no"
>>80918687
It was a last resort. Hitler literally offered to pay to send them off somewhere, anywhere on LUXURY cruise ships. Nobody would take them. Nobody else wanted them either.
The Jewish question's answer was literally A. Last. Resort.
>>80919888
Yes but a Jew that has family that lived in Germany for hundreds of years and got Germanized at one points is not considered to be an immigrant.
>>80920121
A dog born in a barn isn't a horse, no matter how many dogs were born there before him.
>>80916694
>The fact that the Jews were imprisoned in the first place, for nothing more than being Jews was a crime against humanity.
they wanted to eject the jews. imprisoning them was fine. the US imprisoned the japanee
jew bolsheviks did bloody revolution in russia and also germany after ww1. they controlled the banks and press.
in ww1 jews promised britain to get the US into the war in exchange for palestine
jews were a 5th column in germany and absolutely needed to be ejected if they were to fight bolshevik russia or western powers
the reality of the past is hidden from us today
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/ish.htm
>>80915430
>No one denies concentration camps
Bullshit. Over half of holocaust deniers think the concentration camps were mini clubmeds, and that the Allies are responsible for the condition of the Jews because the Allies cut supply lines to Germany
>>80919994
The gas chambers were a State secret. Hitler was very concerned about the possibility Catholic Germany would revolt against his rule if the full extent of their eugenics program was discovered. This was of particular concern, since the accelerated extermination program was instituted in early 1944 when the Axis was beginning to lose the war. Hitler could not risk a coup in his own ranks. Its why the SS ran the Camps and not the regular Army. Only the true believers could be guards.
>>80919774
>Isn't Holocaust denial illegal in Germany Kraut?
That your argument? Brilliant stuff.
>>80920121
>t. Achmed Özgürü, native german
>>80918658
But why waste time ? Why not kill them on arrival leaving 0 proof?
>>80920302
>>80920334
You guys realize Merkel's secret police are currently conducting raids, and arresting people like you right?
>>80920216
It doesn't matter, the term immigrant does not apply here. Just say Jew, they're already hellbent on being called Jews anyways.
>>80920334
>literally to stupid to look at the ID
>doesn't know what immigrant means
Unterschicht raus.
>>80920431
>let me tell you about your country
>>80920284
>The gas chambers were a State secret.
A lice exterminating secret? Those evil, evil goyim.
>>80920438
Agreed.
In, "Night", Elie Wiesel advanced a...certain claim:
Trying to escape, he ran away into the forest away from the Germans and ran 26 miles.
In one night.
Through unplowed snow.
Amazing, huh..? But it gets better:
While SHOT.
WITH NO SHOES.
Hmmmmmmmmmm...!!!
Gosh, I wonder if that happened, huh.
>>80915321
>>80920556
http://www.thelocal.de/20160713/german-police-launch-first-nationwide-hate-speech-raids
i sometimes wonder what america would have done to the asians in our work camps if japan attacked our mainland
>>80920556
Kek
Godspeed friend. Best of luck with the second coming of the German JudeoBolsheviks
>>80920245
No there were a few which were "luxury" camps for the Jewish Elite. The rest of them were bare minimum encampments. But yeah, of course blockades and sanctions led to the camps being poorly made. Germany was stuck between a massive war on two fronts fighting against the (((Allies))) and the (((Soviets))).
>>80915321
>I know a holocaust survivor. She's about 90 or so and has the blue ink mark tattoo from auschwitz. I've never asked her for any details, but is /pol/ really going to tell me that she lied about the whole thing? I'm genuinely curious.
In case you haven't noticed ... like the vast majority of Jew interned in the camps.... she survived.
>>80920574
lol, you people who question the holocaust are crazy. Like, yeah, someone would really tattoo themselves...oops:
"Hirt also admitted to having tattooed the number of renowned author and Auschwitz survivor Primo Levi on his arm, saying this was “in no way an attempt to take on his identity, but in an effort to incorporate his symbol as a way of remembering him.”
http://www.algemeiner.com/2016/06/27/91-year-old-man-confesses-to-apologizes-for-fabricating-life-story-as-auschwitz-survivor/#
>>80920526
>le jews were assimilated meme
Selber raus.
>>80917477
how about stop giving them food and water?
>>80920556
The fact that you obviously don't know what's going on in your country means I have to
>>80920284
Even the guards didn't see most of the killing, they had jews do it for them then killed those jews afterwards to avoid witnesses.
There's also written correspondence from commanders in the field writing the upper command that soldiers were uncomfortable wholesale mass murdering POWs and they recommended transport to a quiet death camp. This is when they came up with the final solution to the Jewish problem.
It probably wasn't 6 gorillion but it was definitely more than one gassed in those camps.
>>80915321
how did she survive? how did any jew survive being gassed? like no one denies that foreigners were put into detention camps, its a perfectly normal and responsible action to take during war, Americans did it, Australians did it... if you dont, you get situations like in the first world war, where the local turks ambush, attackand attempt to massacre a train of civilians (battle of broken hill). Just because she was in a detention camp, doesn't mean there was an order for her to be systematically killed.
>>80920930
Where's the gas chambers?
>>80920842
I never claimed they were.
>>80920815
The big media published the story of the JOSEPH HIRT holocaust fraud the day after Brexit to slide it from any real attention.
I only found it on pg 14 of the UK Guardian. Jewggle the name, the details are even better than Rosenblatt.
When as many people resort to outright fraud as have with the so-called Holocaust and there are laws against questioning or investigating it, don't you think it's time to start wondering?
>>80920559
The gas had to be procured from suppliers and factories. Suppliers and Factories that were not part of the SS or the Inner Party. They had to provide a reason for the purchases and deliveries. So they said it was for "De lousing" inmates.
Its a major fallacy to think of the German State in World War 2 as some monolithic entity united in purpose. It was anything but. The old school Prussian nobility had its knives out for Hitler. "Operation Valkyrie" anyone? Hitler also had HUGE problems with the Catholic Germans, who were already looking askance at the quasi religious cultishness favored by the Nazi's. Had the full extent of what was going on gotten out, Hitler could have had a full scale revolt on his hands, and would have been unable to trust the Wehrmacht to support him.
>Mfw realized that these Germans posting here would get imprisoned for years if these posts saw the light of day
>>80915321
Technically all of survived during WW2 are Holocaust survivors so its really nothing special (Yes she lied)
Look up those stories of ''Survivors'' admitting they lied for years and years and some keep going at it because 'Its real to me :)'
i can think of a much more efficient way to kill jews and I'm not a german engineer.
>get as many shovels as you can
>get as many jews as you can
>have them dig a trench 6ft deep
>tell them to get in
>have the next ones shovel dirt on top
or really if you didn't care about cleaning it up... just go to a remote area where you can let the bears and flies clean it up. shoot them all in one spot.
digging trenches seems really time consuming so why not just option 2?
>>80915321
Ask her how often the Germans tried to gas her!
She might be one of the immune Jews.
>>80920930
>There's also written correspondence from commanders in the field writing the upper command that soldiers were uncomfortable wholesale mass murdering POWs and they recommended transport to a quiet death camp. This is when they came up with the final solution to the Jewish problem.
Do you have a source on that please? I've gone through the entire 4,000+ pages of Ernst Zündel's trial in Canada on this matter. Every big Jewish expert--including Raul Hilberg-- was there, and nothing of the sort you are talking about was ever mentioned.
Actually, if you see Hilberg's revised 2 volume "The Destruction of European Jewry," he removes the idea of a "Fuhrer Order" from the 3rd edition of the book in the footnotes.
>>80915321
There were camps but anything about gas chambers/skin lamps/ or mattresses made of hair is straight bullshit.
Also only one fucking camp tatood them. And why tatoo someone you will kill.
>>80919551
Wouldnt that make them labor camp? And yes the were claims they were all death camps anon.
>>80921253
Mr. Finn, as an idiotic American, can you describe the relative rates of freedom of speech in the EU to me?
Like I could march from Miami to Juneau and scream the Holocaust never happened and have zero legal repercussions.
>>80919810
Totally denying the holocaust is a crime in germany that is true. No discussion here. Discussing about numbers is not a crime.
The raid was a faceslap to everyone who likes to discuss actual politics.
The message was " don't discuss our politics. Denounce everyone who could do that" I don't go conform with that and I am more concerned if that is not just an experiment to look what the people think what could be dangerous thoughts and how the public will react to it. So far everything works like a charm and political critics will think twice not getting a visit from the police if they don't cheer to every decision the politic makes. I am really concerned about our freedom of speech because "hate speech" will be buzzword from now on. Just instrumantelize a word with a group of extremists and you can shut up everything you don't like.
I got to say that in this closed group people planned crimes, but the instrumenatalisation from the "democratic" politic and the medias is awsome to look at.
Everywhere it's "hate speech = Nazis" nothing else. And then Mr Maas who just talks about hate speech in connection with nazis.
No obligatory war against hate speech, just right extremists....
in the future, if someone talks about the political germany he is automatically a criminal.
Give us a year or two and we get some state observed internet for the security of the people. Although security is not what the world is about. Surpressing people will only result in anger. But then again the soultion will be to fight that openly and as you wake up you got DDR 2.0
>>80921117
You are a gullible goy a Jew. The mistake Jews made in all this insisting on this evil, industrial "Gassing" of Jews.
The good old bullet was always effective in the USSR. Just ask the JEws from the NKVD who wiped out 1/3 the population of St. Petersburg.
>>80920245
There were more deaths in every area of world war 2 after the lines went to shit then before it. One of histories lessons like how white people could never take africa or how native americans got wreckt. Mother nature always fucks us worse then we can fuck ourselves.
>>80920245
Bullshit.
Regular concentration camps in Germany were pretty nice and could be compared to a softer kind of resocialization bootcamp.
They had theatre groups and organised musicals. It was about becoming a useful part of society.
It was less dishonourable to sent to those concentration camps than to be sentenced to regular prison.
You have no Idea.
>>80915321
BAIT AND SAGE
>>80920245
>Over half of holocaust deniers think the concentration camps were mini clubmeds,
A pool for water polo and a sauna like in Auschwitz are pretty nice senpai!
>>80921459
The official claim is that they were concentration camps where people were some people were executed, while others were put into labor. Literally nobody claims that the concentration camps were ONLY death camps.
>>80921036
In the Himmler signed blueprints the Russians kept after they 'liberated' the camps and stole documentation before it could be burned. These were admitted under evidence in a court of law back in the 80s and deniers and architectual engineers went over them. They are legit, there was absolutely an organized method to dispose of slave labor that was no longer useful in the camp but the question is did 6 gorillion die or 1 million or 1 thousand.
>>80921341
Amazing how they didn't kill her right after
>>80921417
Slave labor, and to prevent escape from it. The camps were a huge investment in resources for the Germany state, and Hitler needed a reason to keep the Wehrmacht from getting pissy about it. Using "fit people" as slave labor was his compromise with the Generals Staff. He could argue the diversion of war resources was "worth it" if he could show the camps were making shit like bullets, shells, or whatever.
Its why the very first phase of an inmates induction to a Concentration Camp was to see if you could work, or not. If you could not work, it was straight to the chamber, or the local field for firing squad. Gas Chambers were only one of many methods. They also employed the "dig your own grave and then get shot" method too. But that one only worked for people who could actually dig their own graves. Hard to get old Jewish Ladies to swing a shovel.
>>80921640
Jews claimed that all camps were death camps. Then coincidentally, after US examined a bunch of the "death camps" and found no such evidence, Jews now claimed that the ones we didn't check were death camps.
>>80921620
>Regular concentration camps in Germany were pretty nice and could be compared to a softer kind of resocialization bootcamp.
Open your door or it's getting kicked in
>>80919551
I concede there's a slim chance that she made it through the pedal-powered head stompers and the masturbation gauntlet, and survived the cage match against a bear and eagle tag team match to the death. But the possibility is slim.
>>80921117
So, can you provide me with the exact amount of this delousing agent it takes to kill a single person then try to figure out how much it would cost to purchase this amount of gas, and kill through this method for at least 100,000 people?
When did the Nazi begin to stockpile such an amount of gas?
Where did they amass the resources to acquire this gas if they were so busy devising horrible ways to kill jews which have been claimed over the years like acid baths and electrocution?
Why didn't they do the most economical thing and just starve them?
Most importantly why are there some jews who claim that zyklon b was indeed used to gas them?
Why is it so hard to find these jewish people who are speaking out against the holocaust through a quick google search and yet this same search will net the 6 gorillian meme despite decades of legitimate criticisms through Holocaust Revisionism? I mean if we can question the death toll of the Cultural Revolution in China why not the Holocaust?
>>80921620
Yeah and the daily workout on the lidodeck was awesome
>>80921542
No probs here in Finland, you can say literally anything you want without getting prosecuted
>>80921693
Or perhaps the SS guards took her survival as an excuse to cling to a shred of their humanity.
>>80921924
>was indeed used to (delouse them
>>80921746
Where do you even take this from? Or did you invent it yourself?
I actually know one Finnish SS guy who served in the SS Wiking division.
>>80921684
Idk. Every gas chamber I've seen had windows
>>80921951
>you can say literally anything you want without getting prosecuted
Funland really is the best country.
>>80920245
>camps were mini clubmeds,
The self-serve clothing disinfection chambers inside the Auschwitz sauna where the first of a kind.
Strangely no wooden doors like in front of the gas showers, instead real airtight doors to gas the typhus clothing.
Really makes you think....
>>80915321
its is not about lying that it was shit and people died, that is a fact.
It is about how probably numbers of death got played around with and how killings were invented to create a bigger guilt for germany to carry around.
The people got probably shot, which is not less bad but the gassing method is so complicated and honestly to slow.
Also it is strange how they find little evidence to anything about gassing, it is like the nazis must been pure geniuses erasing any traces.
Not saying it is not impossible there were gassing just kind of somehow it is a bit strange.
>>80921924
Most of the Jews killed in the Holocaust were taken out in regions controlled by the former Austrian Empire, Prussian Kingdom, and later Poland. All three of the Nations kept very accurate records of who lived where, and in what capacity. We know how many Jews were living in these regions prior to the war, and we know how many were living in them After the war. There could be a margin of error in the 6 million number, but a full Standard of Deviation less still means millions were killed in some form or another.
>>80921866
>>80921925
Its true, I know it.
My grandpa told me a distant relative was sentenced to 6 months concentration camp because she doctored documents to gain something from the state that she wasnt entitled to. And overall she seemed to be a crazy person, because after the war she portrayed herself as nazi victim to get reparation while she tried to steal my grandmothers jewelry in 1952, grandpa hates her and would sent her back to camp immediately.
Her mother visited her during her stay in the camp and told the family that there was literally nothing wrong.
Why would I not believe this but some leftist/zionist historian who tells me that every KZ was literally hell?
>>80921962
>Or perhaps the SS guards took her survival as an excuse to cling to a shred of their humanity.
She must have been the only one gassed, or did she think the other ones only took a nap?
Why didn't she realize that it was "extermination" attempt?
>>80919098
Are you retarded or something?
It says that even with the technology today, it takes more time to burn a body.
How can be possible that they burned a lot of bodies with the tecnology of that time.
Bang her then post pics OP
and check these dubs
>>80922201
Yeah, life's okay here. Not complaining! Could be a bit warmer though, but that's about it
>>80922080
I'm a History major that chose to specialize in interwar Germany (period before World War 2 but after World War 1). Its really fascinating stuff honestly, studying how Hitler managed to keep so many competing factions in the State, many of them hostile to him, balanced against each other rather then actively working against him. Mostly.
His greatest enemies were the Prussian Nobility, and the senior officers of the Wehrmacht. A major reason why he launched the war with Russia was to keep the Wehrmacht distracted, and put the Prussian nobles on the front lines to get killed. Conversely, his greatest military allies were the German Navy and the Luftwaffe which were stacked with Nazi Party loyalists since they were relatively new institutions in the German power structure.
>>80915321
Nah, bruh. She's under no pressure to toe the line. There's virtually nothing in it for her to lie. She could only be telling the truth. Plus Jews have to follow g-d's law so she can't lie or she has to go to hell. You should be a good goy ask if she might like you to be her Shabbas Goy. Start the healing.
>>80922347
If I visited my daughter in a concentration camp I'd also tell me relatives that she's doing fine to keep their hopes up...
>>80922583
>How can be possible that they burned a lot of bodies with the tecnology of that time.
According to this Jew the Germans discovered that you have to use a women to kindle the fire, it will burn much faster kek
>>80922247
wtf I hate white people now
Seriously though either answer the questions or gtfo
isn't 6 jewlion a magic number for jews or something?
I thought they tried to push that shit several times before ww2
>>80922806
Fat women anon its key.
>>80922715
This.
>>80922846
I did answer the question.
>>80922805
What hopes, half of the family was mad at her because she was such a derranged person.
She gut a clear sentence that said release after 6 months and so it happened.
Also nazi party members or SA/SS members were sentenced to such camp if they behaved badly, none of them was killed there.
And again real pirson was much worse than this, it was more of a slap on the wirst like correction camp.
Are you saying that I am lying?
>>80921366
Lot's of correspondence has come out recently, long after that trial http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10595972/Heinrich-Himmlers-letters-to-be-published.html
Russians still have a bunch of shit they haven't published probably because it details their own war crimes at the time.
You can go to Russia yourself and look at the archives just can't take any pictures, since you are interested in this.
>>80922715
>His greatest enemies were the Prussian Nobility
Sure Schlomo, not the Jewish communists who waged civil war in German streets...
>>80921962
Right, or, it didn't happen.
I just want to thank all the German posters itt. I have submitted your IDs and posts to the Bundespolizei. Via their website
>>80919774
You can look a lot of shit up...like lampshades, soap, the Holocoaster ride...all known lies.
Funny how all the camps that were found to be death camps were the ones the (((commies))) inspected, and a big zero for Allied inspection.
>>80915321
The short version:
The holocaust did happen, but it was closer to like 2 million jews dying or under, the 6 million thing was fibbed to make it easier to establish the state of Israel, and also to make the Jews seem more like the victims of a horrible atrocity.
>Kristalnact not withstanding
>>also ignore the losses the Russians had
>>>and every other group
>>>>OY VEY WE'RE CHOSEN
>Armenians don't count
>>Native Americans also didn't have it as bad
Those poor jews XDDDDDDDDDD
>>80919551
How do we know any of them died? What if they were all just labor camps?
>>80923038
>I did answer the questions
Like clockwork kek. Can't tell you how many times I've had the exact same non-answer from people who shill for the holocaust. Non ansers, stonewalls, etc. Can you talk to your buddies about why you're trying to promote jewish interracial children in America? Are you trying to send those African jews here because they keep asking to all move into Israel?
Why is this allowed?
Fucking sage.
>>80923192
Oh, the Commies were also his enemies too. For sure. But they were rabble. The Junkers on the other hand were wealthy, and intimately tied to the Armies power structure.
This is why the Wehrmacht was never put in charge of any of the camps. Hitler rightly did not trust them. He also made sure that the SS was kept completely independent of the regular army, even to the point of compromising the chain of command and the ability of Wehrmacht commanders to conduct coherent offensives and defensive actions.
Jewish commies could cause a riot in the street, but if Hitler gave the Wehrmacht even an inch, particular in the later phases of the war when it was clear things were going to shit, his ass would have been grass.
It almost was too. Several Wehrmacht officers nearly killed him in the Operation Valkyrie assassination plot.
>>80922583
what the hell? In an industrial form of killing it's easy to reach these numbers. It was not just one concentration camp. It were several. Man, we are capable of burning dump more than that in a single month.
It's not like your everyday oven you got in your home, it were industrial machines created for that.
Just pile up the bodies, burn them and if one got sink in put another one in. It's easy to burn that shit to ashes in minutes. After a while it's just going on and on. Not a miracle.
As an example. You buy coals. Get one coal on fire.... it lasts a long time to burn it, when the coal burns put more on it and look how fast (if you put some more oxygen into it) fires up and heats itself. That's some shit you learn when you work as a smith for example. They don't work with witchcraft.
>>80915321
you obviously never asked her anything so how would you know if she lied? maybe she'll tell you the truth. she never saw anyone killed. maybe she'll lie, who knows. the longer you lie the more you believe the lie yourself
>>80922715
Is it true that the Allies reducing Dresden to rubble actually helped Hitler since it was mainly full of his critics and political opposition who quietly toiled against him?
>>80915321
real or not the holocaust has been rampantly over politicized
>>80918012
why let them have kids?
>>80918012
labor camps
>>80923678
Cannot speak for that specifically. I can say though that as it became increasingly clear that the very survival of Germany as a nation was at stake, it put any plans to overthrow Hitler on a back burner. External enemies always take priority over internal ones. Problem was Hitler created way too many external enemies in his effort to deal with all his internal enemies.
>>80922806
Ohh my, you've got to be kidding me!
>>80921341
It would have been easy to walk out, because the doors opened inwards, as there was obviously nothing likely to block them lol.
Anyone have the cap of the womanwho goes to American schools saying Hitler personally killed her dad?
>>80923224
>I have submitted your IDs and posts to the Bundespolizei.
Free speech isn't a crime in 4chan jurisdiction, the Germans have no legal way to get to the logs Schlomo.
>>80918012
why feed your prisoners when the enemy cuts your supply lines and you can barely feed your citizens? the photos from before supply lines were cut show healthy people and hardly any skinny at all
>>80921951
HOLD UP! Politicians can get fined and Seppo Lehto even got jailed for his muslim shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_gQmKt8kM . It's only a matter of time before normal people will also feel the pain, this is just the part where they let us get used to the idea that opinions can be illegal.
>>80915321
in america we are watching angry college blacks tell blatant lies on tv and cultivate their impossible narratives daily. but people think angry jews after ww2 would somehow be incapable of telling lies and feeding their ridiculous narrative in a similar way.
>>80923569
>Yes goys remember the Valkries and Catholics
Stop trying to mislead the newfags Schlomo. You still haven't given me the economics of the gas chambers. Btw what do you think about the jews who joined Hitler in the Beer Hall Putsch. Race traitors or heroes for the free world?
Black people are the real Jews. For too long Israel has been denied the strength of diversity. We need to support the black Jewish people by offering reparations in the form of 100% funded moving costs to all black people who emigrate to Israel, and blessing the Jewish state with the strength of diversity!
>>80915321
>but is /pol/ really going to tell me that she lied about the whole thing?
No, I'm going to tell you that you are lying about the whole thing
>>80915642
>this
>>80915321
>a woman
>not lying
Pick one.
>>80924139
The Gas chambers were never a sound economic investment. I believe the point I have been making all thread has been that the entire scheme was to the detriment of Germanies war effort, and that Hitlers focus throughout the process was to keep the German people from learning the full extent of the program and prevent the Wehrmacht from demanding Hitler stop the whole thing "or else".
>>80923569
Military generals (not the honored ones) were competely against his type of warfare and demanded changes in his strategies. But no, Hitler had other plans. He was a great politician, as for populistic purposes but as a leader in a war he was just ignorant and not a great chessmaster. He did so many things wrong and broke so many contracts it's a miracle he got that far.
His generals were really good in their jobs, but they had to go along his visions. True deication but totally cucked.
>>80924165
>We need to support the black Jewish people by offering reparations in the form of 100% funded moving costs to all black people who emigrate to Israel
Blacks are the real Israelites after all, they should get reparations for centuries in exile!
>>80921962
>Or perhaps the SS guards took her survival as an excuse to cling to a shred of their humanity.
Yes, they had a moment of guilt about this poor Jewish woman that refused to die after six rides on the Holocauster. Then they walked to the soccer field to play ball with Jewish babies before throwing them in the air for machine gun practice.
Makes perfect sense.
>>80916961
Estimates are guesses at best.
>It's not like (((they))) extracted 6 megaJews worth of distinct DNA material from all the sites.
>>80924371
>The Gas chambers were never a sound economic investment.
So they did specifically gas chambers... why?
>She's about 90 or so and has the blue ink mark tattoo from auschwitz
>implying the Jews didn't get that tattoo on purpose to pretend they were victims for free shit
>>80923986
>the Germans have no legal way to get to the logs Schlomo.
Gook moot complies with all investigative requests
>>80924469
Its hard to find hundreds of psychopaths, let alone thousands. The SS contented itself with making officers of the few dozen psychopaths they could find to direct the hundreds of normies who found themselves in a horrible situation they knew was wrong but felt powerless to change.
>>80919831
oyvey
>>80923480
I am just pointing out a common strawman used by holocaust deniers, I never said that I believe that mass exterminations took place.
>>80924569
Because Hitler had a messianic vision based around ideals of racial purity and national strength. Say what you will about the man, but he believed fervently he was doing the right thing, not only by Germany, but by all humanity. A near religious calling. And mere worldly economics and the necessities of crude war could not stand in the way of that mission. He would fulfill it, even if Germany itself burned down around him.
look at these skinny jews. so tiny
>>80924569
>So they did specifically gas chambers... why?
to disinfect typhus lice infested clothing, like the international red cross did a couple years earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqhaw9bwQE
>>80924617
You are a liar, the website of the Bundespolizei does not even take official complaints, just hints, ans also it is not possible to submit images via the website.
>>80924617
that's not how it works. At first the jewbook works together for a safespace for the libs and will handle everything out on request and second this is an anonymous board. I read the disclaimer and it says it's all satire. I read and agreed to it.
Satire is allowed to do everything
Germans were pure evil. Never forget the six gojillian goyim.
2 million were shot outside camps and no stormfag can debate this
>>80922154
The gas chamber at Dachau was a proper gas chamber but it was only used on a few hundred at most.
>>80924109
This is really sad.
>>80915430
No one denies working camps. Some people deny death camps. I do to.
>>80924914
You actually went to the website after I posted that to check didn't you?
Never forget goyim
>>80924784
Ok, and where are the written orders to kill jews?
>>80925043
>2 million were shot outside camps
OMG resistance fighters have been shot during war... stop the press, what an unprecedented event...
>>80925023
Don't forget to answer your door when they come knocking later today. It was a busy morning for them, so expect them around 1900
Fake photo for the goyim
>>80925366
Real photo
>>80925043
>2 million were shot outside camps
Fun fact:
the father of Annetta Kahane, Merkels censorship girl, was fighting for the French resistance.
>>80915321
death camp = no
prison camp = yes
by the end of the war, nazis preferred food and supplies to go to the nazis, and not to the prison camps
google "andersonville prison camp". very similar to the prison camps of europe, while not considered a death camp
>>80925127
No, but I know that you can only make official complaints online in 12 German states and not to the Bundespolizei.
>>80918012
>linking one of the only (((proofs))) of holocaust victims, what a coincidence
Hmm quite makes one ponder
Red pill yourselves anons
Spread the link and archive it yourselves incase imgoy takes it down
>>80925687
Aw fuck
Here's the link
https://m.imgur.com/a/pctUM
>>80925644
>>80911195
Id get off the site if I were you
Fake photo for the goyim.
>>80925548
And he was a jewish communist and Anetta Kahane was a stasi spy that turned her own fellow citizens in and is a jewish communist herself of course.
A perfectly unbiased person to make statistics about German racism that are used by the goverment to make new laws. :)
>>80924109
opinions or political dangerous hate speeches? The line is very thin.
Free speech is for the ones who agree to the majority. Everything else is hate speech.
Except britain. There were only the hate speechers in the majority and the minority totally cucked. Let's bash the minority.
I could not eat enough so much I could puke about the libs speaking about only right wingers and granddaddies were voting for that and how bad it was.
It was the best decision in 50 years.
Oh and sue me for hate speech now.
Never forget people will get cucked if it's not in the political interest
>>80915321
did you get some of that old puss bro
>>80925415
Are you really that stupid or are you trolling
>>80921459
>people dont die from over-labor
lel
>>80925773
Actual photo.
>>80915321
hitler was here to save degeneracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KJHtVw09k
>>80925769
I dont think 4chan would give out IP info for fake crimes like "hate speech", only for serious violent threads.
>>80920245
No. We have proof that there were concentration camps, nobody denies it.
Death camps are the ones people deny, the ones where the Jews were systematically eradicated
Fake photo for the goyim
>>80926053
Actual photo.
>>80925982
*threats, but those would be violent threads as well so I did not really misspeak.
>>80925773
>>80925863
Amazing what Photoshop could accomplish in 1945.
>>80924371
not true even 1 bit. the whole solution of the jew never happened. the solution was to get rid of them, not kill them. FACE FACTS
>>80926174
If only there were a certain type of person with access to film studio technology
>>80926174
People used to stage war footage all the time to show people in theaters rather than film the war themselves. They would make model boats and float them while using cigar smoke to simulate fog
>>80926253
>Get rid of them, not kill them.
>>80926174
Yeah because the only way to distort images is through photoshop
>>80915321
>I never asked her what she saw
>"Did she lie?"
Are you fucking serious?
>approximately 1.5 Million survivors out of 2 Million work camp inhabitans of which 6 Million died
>inspected death camps turn into workcamps and numbers from le deathcamps readjusted by the millions down yet total somehow unaffected
>ovens burning 10 times more for decayced people than physically leave alone logistically possible
>wooden gaschambers for "industrial deathmachine" when Germans trade had constructed and ran for years literally industrial sized steel framed mega gaschambers for guess what pest control feed directly by trains
>one hoax "survivor" after another somehow admitted to be lying when caught contradicting themself now outnumbering the prominent "survivors" already. but the story remains still undoubtly true because of "testimonies"
I swear these Jews made the hoax deliberately so retarded just for fun to insult the Germans they envy and hate so much
How did six gojillian died if the Jewish population increased by 400,000+ in 10 years?
>>80926608
>I know a holocaust survivor
So? Every Jew survived the holocaust.
>>80925982
If there is a serious threat like organisating an attacking a state or some organisation it would hand it out. They can't deny anything like that, because even in the US free speech is only protected if there are no criminal (direct call) intentions.
If I would say "rope the blacks" it could be a crime and not protected by free speech. Yeah I know many people don't know that but read your fucking laws my dear americans.
>>80926801
;^)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/03/holocaust-survivors-grandchildren-inherited-trauma
Their grandchildren need to be payed too goyim!
>>80926720
The "most free state that ever existed on Germany soil" would like to kick in your door now and search your home.
>>80915321
She was dragged out of her home , put into a camp , she was assigned duties.
That's true. If she says she saw people getting gassed, or human soap factory she's lying
>>80915321
>I've never asked her for any details, but is /pol/ really going to tell me that she lied about the whole thing?
If she hasn't told you anything, what exactly is she lying about? The lie is the number of Jews, the number of death camps, the concept of gassing and incinerating etc. No one denies the camps existing.
>>80919551
We have known that forever. Death camps and concentration camps are not the same thing. Buchenwald (Concentration) was not constructed for the same purpose as Treblenka (Death). Most concentration camp victims died of untreated disease or starvation (indirect methods) and death camp victims were typically gassed. Auschwitz was repurposed to be a death camp later on in the war.
>>80926852
"rope the blacks" is free speech in the US.
"Rope Tyrone Dindunuffin after we kidnapped him at his crackhouse which is at the Crimestreet 77 at midnight tomorrow" is not free speech and might be investigated if the authorities consider the threat to be real.
So we learned today:
general threats - OK
very specific threats - not OK, but not prosecuted frequently.
>>80926886
The trick is: We don't pay any apparations at all anymore.
We don't even have to. We had payed back everything we were alleged to and nothing more. The ww1 reparations are fulfilled now too and we don't have to pay anything else.
Oh and we acknowledged our crimes for the genocide at the huruthings two days ago.
>>80919698
Often, they didn't. That's why the death squads were created. Hitler was obsessed with removing Jews from Germany itself, which is why most camps were outside that country.
People are too retarded to perceive that OP is lying.
I hate have a high IQ.
>>80923099
Ok, when new prisoners arrived at the camps they were beaten, then marched into a room to be processed, and then beaten again.
Prisoners were constantly killed by sadists and then had death certificates doctored to say that they died of illness.
There was a famous Protestant pastor who was beaten so badly his legs were like elephant trunks because he would try and preach during roll call. They even crucified him for two hours as a punishment in a camp room. They gave him medical treatment for 2 weeks, then killed him so his corpse would look good when they showed his wife.
Camp doctors were incompetent and lazy and a lot of them received qualifications on the basis they were Aryan rather than academic merit.
Prisoners were treated like animals and subjected to psychological experiments like shutting them in their huts without light or food for two weeks to see what would happen. They died of hunger and covered in their own shit.
And then there were the medical experiments.
So, not. It wasn't fun.
>>80927306
We donate nuclear submarines to Israel and support every BS policy of theirs, and also our leaders have to go to Israel, put on a kippah and bow down their head while acknowledging Germanys eternal guilt.
A state funded on guilt will never be prevail.
Seriously you all need to learn how to post sources that are valid otherwise all this shit is just tabloid bullshit.
>>80927728
Don't forget the six gojillian
>>80927181
>gas chambers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYBFlXr5Eok
ahahaha
>>80927306
>>80927502
>>80927502
says it all.
They even wrote they need to maintain holocaust guilt
>>80927431
nice trolling attempt.
>>80925036
>>80925366
>>80925415
>>80925773
>>80925863
>>80926053
>>80926108
These really get to me somehow. Combine that with the fact that some jews on certain camps were allowed to send letters to their family, get letters from their family, sweets etc, makes me question a lot of things.
>Of course, some of the items get confiscated, no surprise there. They WERE prisoners after all
There were obviously concentration camps. Try to find a big war like this without similar solutions for huge prison populations. There was obvious targeting of Jewish population for imprisonment. Thus, it's quite obvious that Jews were in concentration camps. What really irks me is that even the """sensible""" type of revisionism is somehow completely taboo. This makes getting an actually agreed-upon view of the subject difficult too. If we can't even question the slightest detail in the version of events that's inconsistent and has plenty of details unsupported by evidence,
how can you expect everyone to take the holocaust seriously?
>>80927948
Read Walter Poller. He was one of the few non-Jews who wrote about his time in a concentration camp if you think this is all a Jewish conspiracy.
He was sent to Buchenwald because he was in the SPD.
Poller is critical of everyone, including socialist and communist inmates given special authority by camp commandants.
>>80926852
Here it would be a criminal act because we would speak of a group of persons.
Sorry for that.
What I wanted to say is "blacks got to be roped" is a hate speech if you call out for the community to do it.
No exceptions. If you call out for a crime, as far as I know lynching is a crime in the US, and encourage people to do it, it is punishable. Sorry to crush your dreams but not only a personal threat is something punishable. Look at your laws.
No hate now, but sometimes I believe you think everybody can say everything about anything and it's protected by law is just wrong.
You got a really good free speech system that doesn't censor anything, with all downsides (like the federal crime register where everyone can look into) but you got no "free to go" card just by saying it's "free speech".
That goes to the BLM movement now. You walk on very thin ice right now. What you do is not only hate speech but also taking actions in the name of the movement. Sorry to say but for me you are a criminal organisation since that shootings.
>>80927502
Still we don't pay any reparations anymore. We got an eternal guilt. That belongs to some states and some kneeing. We killed so many of them I would knee to them everyday.
What does it matter? I knee and just have in mind that crispy bacon smell.
>>80928107
I dont deny that concentration camps were real.
I just said what I know about it.
You denied that there were concentration camps where nobody was killed and which for for "good" Germans and served as a prison light.
>>80928153
Idk, why you are linking your post to your last post; I guess it was directed at me so I may answer:
I am German as you have may noticed.
Stop your arrgoant anti americanism.
Read the laws and rulings yourself if you dont believe me.
It is NOT illegal to call for the extermination of broad groups of the population such as Jews, Blacks or Cops.
Just accept that we dont have free speech in Germany and that you cant even imagine how free speech would work.
>>80915321
Ask her about the masturbation machines, the ones they'd strap young kike men to and fap them to death.
>>80928695
>But we never gave in, not really; there was that one time just before liberation but other than that we were strong. We would see the boys they put on those masturbating machines just drop, just die, right there in front of us. The absolute cruelty was beyond our belief.
>That they could do these things to us, that human beings were doing it to other human beings… and we would hobble back to camp with painfully swollen scrotums whimpering: “Don’t bump me! Please, just don’t touch me!”
>>80915321
>(((holocaust [[[survivor]]])))
Right
And I fought in WW1
https://m.imgur.com/a/pctUM
>>80928526
Even a honorless creature like you should acknowledge that a democracy does not work if it is supposed to pay for the supposed guilt of the people of its predaccessor state.
This burden is like a millstone tied around the neck of the young state and will drag it down to the sediments of authotarianism, one way or the other.
Either because the left keeps supressing "antisemitic", "revisionist", "antimigrant" speech more and more, or a revolution happens and the right, supressed for decades will take bloody revenge.
You are prime example for why Germans are too dumb to understand democracy.
>>80928584
to be fair, I don't know why Iinked it too. I wanted to link it to yours >>80927234
Was a mistake. I'm sorry.
>>80928584
No it's not. God dmámnit. If you call out for a crime it is fucking punishable. Really now. Nothing to do with free speech at all. If you say niggers are a waste of oxygen and they should go away it's not puishable becaus it's protected by free speech. If you say all niggers got to be shot it's not free speech. Please learn the difference my german brother
>>80919667
>Nobody cares about the Japanese internment
You shitting me?
German and Italian internment in the US doesn't get much attention because we were largely imprisoning Euro-axis citizens based on real suspicion. Doesn't mean all the suspicion was well-founded, but we locked up Japs *because they were Japs* while we locked up members of my race *if someone said they were Nazi spies*.
And no, Nazi records and archaeological evidence makes it quite clear that murder and slavery were planned from the beginning. It's kind of understandable that people pay more attention to ten million murders than your great-grandpa's internment camps. The bigger historical error is that popular culture generally forgets the millions of Slavs murdered by the Reich. (Sort of understandable, because there were more Slavs to start with so the *per capita* death rate was lower, but still.)
>>80919698
>the Third Reich was too efficient for Auschwitz
Reich efficiency and obedience was just Nazi propaganda, same as 'America will lose because it's full of niggers' and 'jews made me do it'.
If Hitler went on the radio and said 'kill every Jew you know', both Jews and Aryan Germans would have resisted in much larger numbers than they did when they could be fooled into thinking the Jews were being deported to work fields in Russia. They had to pull tanks back from the front to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto; what would have happened to their war plans if that were replicated across the entire Reich?
>>80928056
Those photos are exclusively used by holocaust deniers, you won't find them in any other context. Most of them are made up as a false flag.
>>80929388
sorry, i got to add something "all niggers got to be shot and we meet at five at the bus station"
>>80929388
I don't know about in Germany but that second comment is protected by free speech in america. You just can't say a time for the crime
>>80915413
fpbp
>>80929755
see >>80929717
I corrected myself there cause the thing I got thought of wasn't even mentioned
>>80921334
Efficient, right up until the point where the Jews run away or decide that it's better to be shot charging at a guard waving a shovel than to be buried alive.
They actually STARTED with option 2 in Poland, but it was bad for morale - some of the high-ranking nazis found stumbling upon RL gore disconcerting, and corpses scattered everywhere make it really hard to convince the conquered Poles (who vastly outnumbered the Wehrmacht) that they're not next in line for murder (they were actually third in priority, I think, after Jews and Russians, though a lot of them got to skip ahead in line on account of being in the right place at the right time.)
>>80930008
Well all niggers got to be shot and we meet at five at the bus station.
You ready to go to jail now Jerry?
>>80930179
Proof?
>>80915321
How long did it take to get the tattoo?
Seems like it would be a long process to tattoo everybody like that.
And for what purpose? Why a number?
I would imagine branding would be more appropriate if you don't give a shit who each one is or whatever.
Burn the star on them, throw em in a pen.
Fuck it, why waste the time tattooing? Especially if all you're going to do is burn and bury them.
>>80915321
2016-90= 1934. So she was about 10 when she left the Camp. The question become, why would Nazis leave a 7 year old Jew but kill old Jews that would have died without any children? Why keep her alive while killing labor workers?
>lied
>overexaggerated
like after a kid rides a roller coaster.
Okay Derek it was "insane"
But
You survived
>>80922347
Next up, you can explain to me that Gitmo doesn't exist because you didn't get waterboarded when you got pulled over for speeding. And Linux doesn't exist because you're posting on an iphone.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you, your grandfather, and your grandfather's benefit-forging distant relative are not actually Jews. JUST A GUESS.
>>80915321
Germans give her an awesome tatoo and she still bitches that ungrateful kike
>>80926108
Look at the right side of that ladder towards the bottom, it's transparent. The actual photo is the fake and the fakes are the real. Odd since most people would glance over these and not question their actions.
Hard to find that is was photoshopped when high asf but i did it.
>>80922247
just because they no longer live somewhere doesn't mean they're now dead retard
In fact... I can think of one place alot of jews moved to after WWII...
>>80930754
Right, because there is the same amount of evidence for the existance of linux and waterboarding as the holocaust?
Your strawmen are bullshit and you are a liar.
>>80930754
My text was not meant to prove that something didnt exist but to prove that things existed that are conflated with other things.
It is like if you say that regular prisons in the US exist and are not all like gitmo.
Why did it trigger you so much? Do you have an agenda?
I certainly won't, the holocaust is a well documented fact, and while you can argue that the exact numbers are a bit sketchy, the holocaust undeniably took place. Anyone who believes the holocaust was a hoax is either misinformed, mean, or just saying it for the keks.
>>80931347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HSoSBle8AQ
>>80928956
We don't fucking pay. We found our own identity a couple of years ago now but people like you think about the burden we have. We don't have them anymore.
WE DON'T PAY. That's it. We are not so cucked like you maybe think. Democratic isn't a one way track.
You are talking about the guilt of our forefathers that only exist in our minds to be true.
For sure people will always play the nazi card, what is wrong about that?
That shouldn't stop us, and we are not on a road that let anybody in europe or the world ignore us.
We are a fucking powerhouse economically, what you are talking about is fear we don't have to mind about.
Oh look at the others, they are talking shit. And?
Did that stop us from being a democratic economical very successful state that attracts the attention of everybody in the world?
You are talking about democracy like it must be a cuck to everybody's needs. We do what we have to do, we fight what we have to fight for (yes the "no reparations anymore" was a fight) and don't mind me. In a true democratic germany even you should let me speak of what I think as long as I don't threat you or your religion beliefs.
>>80931529
>WE DONT HAVE BURDEN
>people literally get their homes invaded because they said something against jews on the internet
kek, how delusional can you be?
You are just spouting talking points, did you even read and understand my comments?
>>80918726
Why do you think god keeps trying to kill them off?
>>80916694
>Americans pretty much pulled the same shit, but they kept their prisoners alive.
no you colossal leaf shitposting faggot, hundreds of thousands of german men died in POW camps, maybe a million or two
>>80923104
>You can go to Russia yourself and look at the archives just can't take any pictures
You can make photocopies, or at least you could in...I think 97 was the year I was there with with thesis adviser.
The entire Russian agenda has changed now (they need the WW 2 "Great PAtriotic War" as one of their founding myths that holds them together), but I have been to the archives a few weeks after they opened them and the Auschwitz death certificates came out.
Any Himmler correspondence not marked as "top secret" or "highest top secret" in German is janitorial level and worthless.
>>80915416
This. Most women - if not all - were sent to the death camps in Auschwitz immediately.
There is no way she would be able to survive unless she escaped or visited the camp on the same day of its liberation.
>>80919667
>You can thank the allies for that.
Yes, the allies cut off enemy supply lines which in turn caused starvation in prison camps... But this was a war they were fighting, cutting off supply lines is something that happens in war. The allies were not the ones that put these people into camps, and then didn't release them when they ran out of resources for their care.
>Japanese Americans were also treated like shit and put into camps, nobody makes the same scandal as they do about a bunch of kikes.
Right, because the Japanese were well cared for and then released after the war, they didn't die en masse.
>>80919551
Auschwitz was a Death Camp and Concentration Camp, hence why it's the most famous. If you were a woman then you most likely went to the death camps because you wouldn't be strong enough to do the entitled work.
>>80915321
History in the making, OP
>>80918552
>There are no more Jews in Lithuania, apart from working Jews and their families."
Um what? You cite a contradictory phrase as evidence they were trying to kill all the Jews.
In fact, Germany allowed 'working' Jews. They had to get special papers and prove loyalty, but that's what they called them, working Jews, to seperate them from the political Jews, rabble rousers, communists, anarchists, social parasites, spreaders of degeneracy, etc.
My great grandfather was Jewish, he served in the Wehrmacht, as a support element that operated with an SS Battalion. He was killed in Poland while trying to save German nationals from genocide.
>>80917627
This. It's the telephone game writ large. Jews got deloused, maybe a few of them had bad reactions and died, even if none of them died, I can see a few jews telling the others how they were sent into a gas chamber and gassed! oy vey I only survived by a miracle!
Fuck, I work in an office filled with idiots who will lie about their golf game, what car they had in high school, how much weight they can lift.. it's really not hard to see statistically that tens of thousands of jews would lie about what happened while interned in internment camps.
>>80921341
How the fuck wouldn't she notice everyone else dropping dead in this situation?
More likely:
>dirty bitch has lice
>sent to be deloused with some people
>old jewish biddy has something new to cluck about to her
>oy vey you were just gassed! its anudda miracle
>>80931891
They didn't get their homes invaded because they said something about jews, do't be that populistic hypocrit.
I am spouting talking points that are true. Look it up. We don't pay any reparations anymore.
The only guilt is in the minds of the people who like to be a cuck, the rest of germany just strifes on and keeps being relevant. No, I don't see your point to be honest. What do you want to say? Exactly, not just talking about a guilt we have to pay just because one person knees in front of something and afterwards sells them excellent weapons?
Oh, and about the jew thing. You was in that group? As far as I know they planned some nasty shit but hey you know it better. It must be just some spouting about jews.
Populistic shit without any proofs on both sides but yeah let your prejudices come through
>>80922247
Imagine being able to just go somewhere else in the chaos of WW2 and skip out on all your business debts, while your children or relatives can then inherit any of your holdings that still exist. I bet there was a massive game of jewish musical chairs going on.
>>80932807
I cant refute your arguments. You totally won.
Expressing your thoughts should definately get you into jail. No doubt about it.
HEIL MERKEL
A family member on my father's side was there (Polish). My dad was all about how they shot ppl for small shit like oversleeping and such, but when I asked if the senpai. member ever seen a gas chamber he said 'no, but it's real'.
>>80922806
Also this isn't how fire and burning corpses works at ALL.
>>80930251
Pick up any history book written by someone who isn't a fucking Nazi.
Just google lmgtfy and use it to look up the relevant documents. If you can figure out how to post screenshots off cripplechan's board, you can figure out how to use a search engine in a couple of weeks.
>>80923269
What is this, a holohoax story for ants?
>>80920245
Substantiate your claims, faggot
>>80933083
Shut the fuck up and post some evidence. I have poured alot of time into researching both sides and you're full of shit.
>>80932933
It wasn't about expressing thoughts it was about planning criminal acts.
That's what I know. Damn, why can't you just read and not phantazising anything into it.
You're concluding things that never were part of the debate.
You say we got a burden, I agree. But we got not a financial burden anymore. We strife on being relevant in the world. You sound like a first grader pointing at others.
Just admit we won, and now do your job being relevant too.
Don't mind that people who will keep you down and fighting for nothing and keep your track, go on and be successful.
Heil Merkel my ass. She is awful as a leader.
>>80930845
Kill yourself, namefag. The ladder isn't transparent, it's a black and white photo and the tone of the ladder section blends with the background. There's no reason for that part to be shopped because it's the same in both pictures.
You fucking retard. Smoke more weed and destroy more braincells. Destroy your motivation. Be a bigger loser, wasting your life on a malaysian quilt batting help line.
>>80915321
I've never asked her for details. If you have never asked her how do you know what she will say?
>>80930996
Interesting how your standard of evidence goes down once a claim doesn't have anything to do with your attempts to convince us Adolf One-Ball wasn't so bad. No, there is not the same amount of evidence for Linux, Gitmo, and the Holocaust. Since you apparently like everything spoonfed:
There is more evidence for Linux having happened than for the Holocaust having happened. There is more evidence for the Holocaust having happened than there is for Gitmo having happened. And Gitmo happened.
>>80933488
If they were plotting anyhting real they would have been arrested.
But they werent. This operation was orchastrated to supress any right wing ideology.
Minister Maas did not refer to neo nazi ideology but to any right wing ideology in general in his twitter statements.
How did we won in the sense that we remain a nation state of native germans with the maximum amount of freedom and security for them? How did we win? Tell us.
>>80931212
Okay, I'm willing to buy that.
I usually see the conflation argument (which is valid, and conflation of facilities' images did happen) used as a lead-in for 'since X could have been confused for Y therefore Y didn't happen' arguments, which would piss me off even if I wasn't posting from a country where a couple major politicians have been talking about building concentration camps. (They CLAIM not to want to build death camps, but since at least one of them pledges to set up torture facilities I am inclined to suspect their model is more Treblinka than Tanforan)
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