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>Foreign sec: BORIS JOHNSON
>Brexit minister: DAVID DAVIS
>Int'l trade minister: LIAM FOX
>Defence sec: MICHAEL FALLON
>Home sec: AMBER RUDD
>Chancellor: PHILIP HAMMOND
>FARAGE TO ATTEND REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, "HAS LESSONS" FOR TRUMP
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/12/brexit-leader-farage-has-lessons-trump-gop/86986562/
>A MUSICAL ANALYSIS OF THE TUNE DAVID CAMERON SANG OUTSIDE DOWNING STREET
http://www.classicfm.com/discover/music-theory/david-cameron-musical-analysis/#JOD7burZLE4KoShX.97
>LABOUR CALLS FOR SNAP ELECTION
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labour-does-not-want-summer-leadership-battle-a3293046.html
>NIGE DISCUSSES KEK AND MEME MAGIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkwv5PNapY [Embed]
>TALKS BETWEEN LABOUR AND TORY BLAIRITES ABOUT FORMING THEIR OWN PARTY
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/10/talks-about-forming-new-pro-eu-centrist-party-reported-at-westmi
>THE CHILCOT REPORT - THE MAIN POINTS
http://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/chilcott-report---the-main-points
>WOMAN MADE SPEECHLESS BY BORIS JOHNSON, WORLD NOT SURPRISED
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/753335598262394880
>BARACK BTFO BY BORIS
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/753335737462853632
first for farage
Le Wife
First For Nicola.
>David Davis in the cabinet
>Liam Fox in the cabinet
Delicious
KAREN
NELSON
You brits have the most idiotic and retarded government in the whole world
Theresa May - Sociopathic orwellian dictator
Boris johnson - shaved orangutang, idiot and bigot
Philip Hammond - an idiot chancellor who will be worse than osborne
David davis - narrowminded idiot on the eu
Liam fox - knows nothing about trade
Amber rudd - A fucking anti-white bigot who will import more muslims instead of whtes
Mark carney - Great man and is trying to keep the uk afloat
Good fucking luck britain you need it and also the pound will drop 4.5 cents today, hell you might as well elect mickey mouse as prime minister and donald duck as chancellor
>>80900601
>When you see the tenacity of Remaincucks
>tfw no gf
>tfw NEET (until October but still)
>tfw no money
>tfw nothing to do
Important
>poll
Important
>poll
http://poal.me/orgal7
REMINDER; OUR COUNTRY IS NOW AN INTERNATIONAL LAUGHING STOCK
>>80900549
Last nights haggis
Roger Scruton is on Radio 4 RIGHT NOW talking abotu Brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07ldrbk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07ldrbk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07ldrbk
>>80900547
>>80900577
>>80900606
>>80900634
Better luck next time.
>Davis is actually principled and consistent
>always been staunchly against 'muh security' mass-surveillance kikery
will he balance out Big Sister May?
>>80900631
>just calling everyone an idiot with zero explanation
Boring bait to be honest
Ok so we know the following will also join the cabinet because of muh womyn:
Leadsom - Energy Sec
Morgan - Education Sec
Greening - International Dev.
Who else do we think are givens?
MODS
>>80900691
>>80900686
That bro is my MP. He isn't great in terms of looking out for us, though, but he's one of my favourite Tories by far.
>>80900631
>mark carney
>great man
Why are you Swedes and Leafaggots so similar?
>>80900631
Why are you shitposting on /pol/, Sven? Shouldn't you be cooking those Halal meatballs for Ja'far after he's done impregnating your wife?
>>80900689
People who say their country is a laughing stock are so fucking stupid and cucked.
so will feminists FINALLY shut up about the glass ceiling now?
>>80900760
Priti Patel will be elevated to something more important than employment minister
>>80900770
>>80900691
HAGGIS for breakfast, Lunch and Dinner all day every day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv7Jd94bnOI
>>80900735
His appointment just makes me sad about what could have been back in 2005.
B O R I S
O
R
I
S
>>80900536
I want her to impose far-right policies on my dick.
>>80900735
>will he balance out Big Sister May?
No he'll just end up resigning after about 2 weeks
>>80900760
Greening should be Secretary of Sweaty Rug Munching
>>80900705
thanks for this link. roger is based
>>80900631
>You brits have the most idiotic and retarded government in the whole world
>Swede
YOU ALMOST GOT ME WITH THAT BAIT, ANON. HOLY SHIT.
>>80900830
No. I've already seen several articles shared on social media saying 'Britain finally has another female PM but here's 10 reasons why women shouldn't be happy about it...'
You don't win with them. You never win until all white men are executed.
>>80900420
AMBER FUCKING RUDD
was she the shouty one from the debate I saw with eagle, sturgeon, based boris, leadsom and that german bird?
>>80900716
>>80900914
Wait, she's a dyke?
>>80900825
>HaAHAAH i said KEK HAHAHAHA
Our country is on the path of destruction, thanks to blind hate and baseless anger directed at the EU, BUT ATLEAST YOUR NOT KEKED AMIRYT BRO??.?/?> AMIRYT????
>>80900899
>I want her to impose far-right policies on my dick.
that would be missionary sex for the sole purpose of procreation anon.
>>80900830
Nah, they'll find a way around it, like that she's rich or an elitist or something. Feminists always find their excuse...
>>80901066
Both Justine Greening and Angela Eagle are massive lezzers
Amber Rudd's the first woman I've ever contemplated about punching in the face.
Good lord she is vile.
>>80900705
T O B A C C O
O
B
A
C
C
O
>>80900899
>>80901126
Heaven
>>80901142
I knew about Eagle already, along with Ruth Davidson.
>>80900691
That image will forever haunt my nightmares
>>80900830
does no one remember thatcher?
>>80900504
Plymouth's naval history has pretty much been brushed aside, I mean we're the only major naval town that doesn't have a fucking museum ship.
>>80900631
If they are all idiots, what does that make you?
>>80901049
LET THE PARSNIP SEE THE STEWPOT
>>80900420
>unelected head of state
>unelected upper house
>unelected prime minister
>FPTP """elected""" lower house
>majority party got only 37% of the vote
Good thing you left that "undemocratic" EU, eh brit/pol/?
>>80901187
Don't worry, she has the shittiest important job in Britain. She'll probably fuck it up.
>>80901118
shut the fuck up stupid autist
>>80900894
>US State Department spokesman Mark Toner says the US is looking forward to engaging with Boris Johnson, the new foreign secretary.
>He said that the bond between Britain and the US “is frankly a relationship that goes beyond personalities”, adding: “We’re always going to be able to work with the British no matter who is occupying the role of foreign sec because of our deep abiding special relationship with the United Kingdom.”
>>80901189
explain
>>80900735
if only. he'll probably have his hands full with brexit.
>>80901250
everyone here is 12. i am. you are. they is
Hammond is one lucky guy, he was a nobody that only got promoted to the MoD because Fox fucked up and now he's Chancellor
>>80901254
You've got a load of janners and gin though and that ugly as fuck shopping centre
>>80901250
she doesn't count
because, the north
>>80900420
>420
THERESA LEGALISING THE GANJ CONFIRMED
>>80901126
>that would be missionary sex for the sole purpose of procreation anon.
Perfect
>>80901308
err lad Home Secretary is in charge of immigration
![justine-greening-pic-rex-490819242[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y6jMaKM.jpg "justine-greening-pic-rex-490819242[1]")
>>80900914
>le wide jawed warty faced cunt chewer
>>80901396
me in mummy's arms
>>80900679
>>>/r9k/
start escorting on the cheap and hope you find a sugar honey pot
>>80901396
My current wallpaper :)
Lads we're only *just* winning in this poll... do what you have to
https://twitter.com/NighSide/status/753363940634161152
>>80901279
Our parliamentary democracy, our rules. Fuck off, and take your EUseless superstate with you.
your government system is shit why is nige not pm
>>80901279
The unelected elements are nowhere near as strong as the elected elements. Since 1689 we have had 'mixed government' (elected and unelected parts). The EU commission, on the other hand, is an all-powerful class of mandarins who are accountable to no parliament or electorate
>>80901279
>Queen stays out of politics
>house of Lords can't stop laws, house of commons can also propose them
>always been like that
>not an argument
>more than any other party
OFFICIAL BRIT/POL/ LIST OF WORST MPS
>David Lammy
>Diane Abbot
>Jess Phillips
>Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh
>Anna Soubry
>Emily Thornberry
(DIS)HONOURABLE MENTIONS
>Angus Robertson
>Angela Eagle
>Mhairi Black
>>80901423
Hammond is the ultimate grey-man, John Major tier boring.
Why did May use blacks as the example minority and not Muslims, Pakistanis, or Indians, which are far larger groups?
>>80901517
oh for god sake
he's not a member of the party currently in power
>>80901423
People have compared recent British politics to House of Cards, but it's far closer to Yes, Minister with shit like this.
>>80901448
Yes but Home Secretary is also the biggest poisoned chalice in British politics. The Home Office has chewed up and spat out so many Secretaries of State. She won't be there for long, she doesn't have the balls to keep the department under control.
>>80901396
lucky little lamb
>>80900689
Considering a bunch of old english people voted to economically ruin their own country, I'd say I understand why people are laughing at the UK.
So much for being uncucked.
>>80901542
That's about right
As long as Theresa doesn't turn us into sweden in terms of immigration i dont mind her.
Let her push her SJW shit it's going to get pushed one way or another.
I'm ready for May May-Mays
>>80901542
Where is Jacob Rees-Mogg?
>>80901423
>>80901565
He'll probably end up as PM desu
>>80900894
>>80901336
boris johnson actually held american citizenship for most of his life, since he was born there. he indicated he was giving it up in preparation for his PM run, but in the circumstances he may as well not have bothered.
>>80901584
why is ukip not in power? why is your country shit?
>>80901542
>Anna Soubry
PLS DELETE
THIS IS A DEFAMATORY POST
>>80900549
Brillo pad
>>80900868
add this to the OP
>Four days after a deadly 2005 suicide bombing at the HaSharon Mall in Netanya, Israel, Johnson shared his thoughts about the Koran and "the problem of Islamic terror" in a column for The Spectator magazine:
>"To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture — to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques — it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions in its heartlessness towards unbelievers."
Based
What is brit/pol/'s opinion of the new prime minister?
>>80901187
she is a hideous disgusting shit of a woman
>>80901542
>no chris bryant
How happy out of 10 are you lads with the cabinet appointments of today?
Thats some good bait there leafy
>>80901423
nearly 2 years!?!? wow how time flies
>>80901542
Pickles
>>80901187
She looks like a fucking blobfish
>>80901656
>Jacob Rees-Mogg
>On a list for the worst MPs
Don't joke about this m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmOg2mEl6Q
>>80901720
Try harder next time with the bait
>>80901425
>They had the gall to slap Drake's name onto that monstrosity
It's nice enough on the inside but the outside is fucking hideous, Plymouth Gin and the HMNB Devonport are the only worthwhile things left in this city.
>>80901542
tom watson
>>80901542
Tim Farron
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-show-thatcher-like-military-8407745
More mad Scots
>>80901629
She didn't exactly go full SJW.
>>80901513
:^)
>>80901536
>The EU commission, on the other hand, is an all-powerful class of mandarins who are accountable to no parliament or electorate
They are accountable to the European Parliament, who vote on their election as well as any legislation they produce, as well as the European Council which is made up of directly-elected leaders.
>>80901540
>britbongs will defend FPTP voting
>>80901751
Aslong as she doesn't go Germany and Sweden with the immigrants/refugees she will be alright. Hopefully she won't go mad like Merkel did.
>>80901542
Add amber rudd in there. Just for the ugly factor
>>80901717
He gave it up to avoid paying US tax
>>80900420
>>FARAGE TO ATTEND REPUBLICAN CONVENTION, "HAS LESSONS" FOR TRUMP
WHAT THE FUCK
>>80901720
Nigger president says whuuut
>>80901476
>sugar honey pot
what do you mean by this?
>>80901619
And to think I once wanted to move to Canada
>>80901542
Very hard to disagree with this list.
Pretty much perfect.
>>80901958
>potatoes will defend the EU
>>80901879
I went to uni there, definately prefer living in east devon
WW3 in the year CHECKUM
>>80901958
>believing in any democratic systems
At least FPTP gives you large surges like the Lib Dems or SNP had if you stick to it long enough.
>>80901751
Could be worse.
>>80901723
On my face,
>>80901991
VERY
SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP
>>80901763
7.5, Rudd brings it down
>>80902046
BASED BORIS
>>80902046
Is this supposed to make you dislike Johnson?
>>80901958
The parliament is too weak to hold the commission to account though, they cannot propose legislation and there is no concept of parliamentary privilege
>>80902046
You act like that's all a bad thing.
>>80902046
1 He's right
2 He's right
3 He's wrong
4 lol
>>80900760
>Morgan - Education Sec
Does anyone else hate her?
I don't even know why I hate her but I do.
I feel bad for saying that but it's like with Jaime Foxx - I have no reason to hate him but I fucking despise him.
>>80902004
dyke president says whuuut
>>80902046
Obama does hate Britain due to his Kenyan ancestry though.
>>80901947
I love this huge quote of like £200 billion, when that's the cost over like 35-40 years.
We spend £200 billion on the NHS in 18 months.
>>80902046
>picaninnies with watermelon smiles
My fucking sides Boris
>>80902141
>Rudd brings it down
Why?
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24795/amber_rudd/hastings_and_rye/divisions?policy=6734
>tfw all the truly based Tory MPs have retired or died
>>80902179
filter says
>>80902178
because she has a dogface and is generally very ugly
>>80901751
She's going to use 1984 as an instruction manual
>>80902046
im so happy
>>80901958
Who is the opposition in the European Parliament and by what mechanism can the opposition replace the executive/commission?
If you can't answer this, do you believe that a parliament without an opposition is a little strange?
>>80902057
Everyone on 4chan seems to go to either Plymouth or Kent for university, p strange
>>80902046
>piccaninnies
YES
>>80902046
>that last one
Got me
>>80901279
>FPTP
>a bad thing
ah yes, maybe we should have no government for six months whilst parties try to organise coalitions in the back rooms like spain :o)
>>80902267
She's an annoying feminist
>>80902269
based
>>80902046
Cameron fucked a pig
Amber CRUDD!
BTFO!
>>80902353
It's full of chinks
>>80902179
you guys when you vote for clinton?
>>80902046
>watermelon smiles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGWIsvcL6s
>>80902380
Or 2 years, like that non-country between me and the surrender monkeys.
>>80900420
Why isn't your new PM on that list?
>>80902269
The last man standing.
>>80902046
BORIS JOHNSON KILLED A JAPANESE CHILD
>>80901279
I only used the Democratic argument to convince people to leave. I'm against democracy.
>>80902046
PRINCE PHILIP IS PART OF THE CABINET
I KNEW THIS DAY WOULD COME
>mfw he goes to foreign countries and insults their culture
>>80902057
I love living here but it gets frustrating thinking about all the lost potential, we're basically a hotel and service station for people going to Cornwall when we could be so much more.
>>80901958
>he actually thinks the EU parliament has power
The potato famine didn't kill enough enough of you subhumans.
>>80902548
AnCap skirt.
Roads are finished.
>>80902561
BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIUp19bBoA
>>80902548
is her skirt sending me subliminal anarchocapitalist signals?
>>80901542
No Tim Farron?
>>80900549
You misspelled Wee Jimmy Krankie
>>80902549
>"disabled workers are 'by definition' less productive"
How can people deny this?
>>80902684
Who?
>>80901279
>Ireland
>left the UK to get cucked by the EU
>>80901958
>They are accountable to the European Parliament, who vote on their election
lol are you fucking joking or what
>>80902148
>>80902352
these desu
![article-0-005B2D2200000258-543_468x295[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RYjV0TN.jpg "article-0-005B2D2200000258-543 468x295[1]")
>>80902269
>Winterton came in for criticism when he was accused of slapping Labour MP Natascha Engel's bottom. When asked if the accusation was true, Winterton replied: "I'm quite a normal person. Will I slap a colleague on the back, Will I slap a colleague in friendship? The answer is – it is certainly possible."
On 18 February 2010 during a BBC Radio 5 Live interview he defended MPs travelling first class by saying that people who travelled in standard class on trains were a "totally different type of people." Commenting to a BBC reporter, a Conservative spokesman stated that these remarks "...do not in any way represent the views of [...] the Conservative Party."
holy fuck these two are hilarious
>>80902601
I remember it from childhood being alot differnt than it is now
>>80902046
haha, that is pretty amusing.
You Brits didn't REALLY give him any power though, right? You're laughing AT him, r-right?
>>80902684
>The LibDem that hates gay marriage
You'd think gay marriage would be the most basic requirement to be a LibDem member, let alone its fucking leader.
lmao
I know it's generalising but a lot of liberals so it based solely on social issues - and would weigh their vote 100% on how the candidate is on "racism" "sexism" and LGBT rights.
Farron's kind of fucked himself with that one.
>>80902721
such is the severity of the cuckoldry.
>>80902721
>Cucks
>People
>>80901279
Now now Ireland you left the union, you no longer have a say in these matters.
>>80902878
He's going to get us to invade France
>>80900705
Love anything by Roger, he's a bit like a less contrarian Morality Man. If you haven't seen his conversation with Terry Eagleton I'd strongly recommend it.
>>80901396
Does she ever stop being a qt
>>80902883
Wait, what?
How is he even a lib dem?
>>80902721
I'm disabled and concur. How special do you have to be not to?
>>80903052
he's inoffensive and dim
>>80901126
hnnng
my favorite
>>80902840
Isn't that the same with everywhere though? As you grow older you begin to notice what your hometown is actually like.
UPDATED OFFICIAL BRIT/POL/ LIST OF WORST MPS
>David Lammy
>Diane Abbot
>Jess Phillips
>Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh
>Anna Soubry
>Emily Thornberry
>Tom Watson
(DIS)HONOURABLE MENTIONS
>Angus Robertson
>Angela Eagle
>Mhairi Black
>Chris Bryant
>Jeremy Hunt
ALSO SHIT BUT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT
>Tim 'Nice but Dim' Farron
>Madeleine 'muh dead husband' Moon
>Eric 'ate the shadow cabinet' Pickles
>Amber 'Secretary of State for Ugly Rug Munchers' Rudd
>Alex '>A FUCKING FISH' Salmond
This is getting out of hand lads, too many shit MPs
>>80902684
Why would I waste my hate on Tim Farron?
>>80903052
How is anyone a libdem desu
>>80902969
His conversation with Eagleton was the Road to Damascus moment that made me renounce my leftism.
I went into that video a Marxist cheering on Eagleton and by the end I had already been compromised, after that it was only a matter of time.
His Radio4 thing was total piss though. He doesn't say anything particularly noteworthy he's just so focussed on being agreeable all the time.
>>80901423
This guys is Cliff Lawton from the Thick of It
aka 15 shades of gray.
>Boris is foreign minister
How fuck is my country?
I dont want to be nuke
>>80901619
>i might be living under sharia law but at least i didn't lose 2% of the gdp
>>80901542
>Nick Clegg
>David Cameron
>George Osbourne
>Ken Clarke
>>80903272
t. nuke
>>80903272
don't claim falklands.
UK won't puke.
>>80903052
he's liberal economically and on other social issues like immigration.
But none of that would matter if you're a typical voter.
Could the LibDems actually go down from EIGHT seats?
Is such a thing even POSSIBLE?
>>80903205
>not including Jo 'Saint' Cox
it's like you hate Britain or something
>>80903272
Get to the bunker, lad.
>>80903272
Stay away from that oil Pedro
>>80903224
Are you a fucking horse?
>I can categorically say that I am not a horse, no.
>>80903355
>Could the LibDems actually go down
>>80903265
do you think he'll make it through this year lads? he's taken a real beating recently..
>>80903272
1982 never forget
>>80903272
say your prayers tyrone
>>80903355
I think most of those 8 seats were held onto with tiny majorities.
Like Clegg kept his in Sheffield by like 600 o something.
Red pill me on Amber Rudd, lads. Will she just fuck our borders up as HS?
>>80903272
Looks like we need to sink another Belgrano
>>80903224
Hammond actually looks a bit like Hugh Abbot
>>80903464
>you now remember this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Point_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29#Elections_in_the_2010s
>>80903421
The perfect end to 2016 would be Owen announcing he has HIV in his Guardian column.
>>80903481
Remanian Turbocunt
>>80903481
Nope.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24795/amber_rudd/hastings_and_rye/divisions?policy=6734
>>80902721
I can imagine a disable worker who is equally productive.
You don't need working legs to work on the the tills, or in a call centre.
Some disabilities are harsh and cause a problems in all jobs but many just aren't that important if the person is in the right job.
>>80902032
we need mo EU money fo dem programs
>>80902097
>still defending FPTP
How does brit/pol/ feel about UKIP getting 12% of the vote and winning 0.002% of the seats while the SNP got 54 seats with 4.5% of the vote?
>>80902148
EU legislation can't come into effect without the Parliament's approval.
> they cannot propose legislation
This is to stop bigger Member States (who have more seats) using the Parliament to further their national interests over thos of the EU and of smaller Member States. Hence, power of initiative is vested in the Commission and Council, where every country has an equal say.
>and there is no concept of parliamentary privilege
It's not really needed desu. It doesn't work the same way as national parliaments.
>>80902352
The Parliament is elected by proportional representation, so it's not a two party system. The biggest party is the European People's Party and by convention, their candidate gets voted in as the Commission president. Hence why the EPP's Jean-Claude Juncker is president.
The "Commission Majority" - i.e. the parties of the Commissioners - is a coalition made up of the EPP, the Socialists & Democrats (S&Ds) and the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats of Europe (ALDE). The opposition is everyone else: the European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) Nordic Green Left (GUE-NGL) and others.
>by what mechanism can the opposition replace the executive/commission?
Two-thirds majority vote by the Parliament dismisses the entire Commission.
>>80903481
She'll swing our borders open wider than her legs usually are in westminster bar
Post fascist-esque modern music lads.
>>80903506
>the actor got done for downloading CP
wew lads you think he posts here?
>>80901343
Ol' Rog was found to have been literally shilling for big tobacco in newspaper columns, and he lost a lot of respect for it.
I guess people have gotten over it now seeing as he's been knighted though.
>>80900420
>Foreign sec: BORIS JOHNSON
So am I right into thinking that Boris didn't fight back when he got betrayed is because he knew he was gonna be set up if he stepped back?
>>80903323
Clegg is alright. Cameron can be a one man banter machine too when he isn't reading off the script.
>>80903272
>mfw Argentina is removed from all maps
>>80901958
Still a better option that two party preferred
>>80903694
Does Argentina really even exist?
>>80903593
There is no such thing as one perfect electoral system. They all have their flaws and strengths which I can't be bothered going into because it's 1 in the morning.
>>80903205
What about best MP's list?
>This patriot is our foreign sec
Starting to believe in meme magic, lads...
>>80903751
Only Africa recognises Argentina :^)
>>80903493
No need, they sink all by themselves to save us the effort.
http://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/2013/01/argentina-destroyer-sinks-at-port/
>>80903323
Gideon's going on the next one
Clarke might
Clegg is a literally who now and individually he's not that bad
Cameron is and forever will be banterous af and is therefore exempt
>>80903798
1 - Thatcher
2 - Oliver Cromwell
>>80903751
I've never seen it, nor've I met someone who claims to be from argentina
>>80902773
Nope. The appointment of the Commission is subject to a vote by the European Parliament. They can also dismiss them if they like, and have a range of other powers to hold them to account.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament#Control_of_the_executive
>>80903754
Yes, but FPTP is objectively the worst fucking voting system ever invented. At this point I don't consider countries that use it to be true democracies.
>>80900705
>first-person plural
He really really likes that phrase
>>80902975
the basic answer is no
the more complicated answer is no
>>80903205
Hilary Benn
Stephen Kinnock
Chuka Umunna
Yvette Cooper
Harriet Harman
Angela Eagle
Maria Eagle
Kenneth Clarke
Chris Bryant
Seema Malhotra
Lisa Nandy
I bet there isn't one person here who would defend any of these.
>>80902561
what bliss it was in that dawn to be alive
>>80903849
kys
>>80903858
Life is a lie
You live in 1984
>>80903272
Don't worry they won't nuke a white country
>>80903665
>So am I right into thinking that Boris didn't fight back when he got betrayed is because he knew he was gonna be set up if he stepped back?
Highly likely yes, I don't envy Mays position one bit she's has quite the load on her shoulders right now, and to be fair I think May is the better choice of PM than Boris, though only time will tell
>>80903798
INCREDIBLY BASED Lord "Splendid Isolation" Salisbury
>>80903694
Already happens
>>80901169
if anyones a laughing stock its fucking obama, dude commands no respect at all
>I was the future once
>>80903205
>no Carswell
>>80904011
Good surfing tides down The Sea I've heard
>>80903798
Not much point lad
>all brexit MPs
>bercow if he even counts
>maybe red jez just for a laugh
>>80900689
They won't laugh when they get shafted by the BBC (Big British Cock - we're taking the term back)
>>80903860
Ahahahahaha, just pure banter from this man
>>80904044
if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if
>>80904074
>become leader of conservative party
>legalise gay marriage
>>80903590
>0
I worked in a supermarket that had to have some disabled people to make up a quote to get a feel-good accreditation from the government.
They were fucking useless, it was embarrassing when a customer asked them where something was and they had no idea despite working there for years.
"Owen Smith to offer referendum re-vote if successfully nominated as the leader of the Labour party"
Seriously think this is one of those ideas out of , if you forgive the pun, left-field that could catch everyone unawares
>>80903593
>Two-thirds majority vote by the Parliament dismisses the entire Commission.
How many times has this happened in the history of the EU? (I can't actually find the article detailing this mechanism though I'm sure it exists)
>>80904141
Okie dook
>>80903798
Mad jezza, he single handedly destroyed the labour party
>>80904080
How was he elected?
>>80904044
Yup. What makes it even better is that Boris was actually born in the USA, unlike Obama.
>>80903873
No it's not.
FPTP is designed to create stable majority governments by sacrificing voting share representation for 2 parties.
We've had it since 1884 and our country hasn't had a violent revolution so it must be doing something right. Meanwhile Ireland is a fucking debt slave to the EU commission, a bunch of faceless sycophants who decide on the laws that get proposed to your country.
>>80903593
Exactly, it isn't democratic because of the confederal nature of the EU. Democracy requires a level of kinship with electors that Britain simply doesn't have with the EU due to our divergent historical paths (post 1689)
>>80904210
needed it
>>80904192
stop replying to the autist
>>80904172
By 2020, the election Owen would be contesting, we'll be out of the EU.
My god this man so meme tier it hurts
>>80904142
>Get elected as tory leader explicitly as a "progressive, compassionate moderniser"
>Legalise gay marriage
Yes very unexpected
>you will never lick marions sweaty armpits
who created this cruel world?
>>80904074
Remember when he used to cycle around London with a green tie talking about climate change?
Tell me more about this man. Trade is pretty important right?
>>80904227
Simple.
Carswell's constituency was turning purple so he jumped ship before he was made to walk the plank.
I just wanted to make sure I thanked all you retards for supporting the leave campaign.
Now because no tory wanted to lead this cluster fuck even the head of the tory leave campiagn fucking bailed.
Now we have an SJW leader. Have fun paying taxes going to a government task force thats going to police mean comments and eventually blacklist 4chan.org
>>80903873
FPTP is fine, it's already a representative democracy so you're not getting true democracy as it is.
You're also confusing FPTP with the limitations of a party system.
Currently, FPTP allows constituencies to have MPs that represent them - obviously this only barely works in practice, but under PR, there's literally 0 choice.
Even if FPTP doesn't let third parties get into power, votes for them still affect the actions of the leading parties (recent referendum was a direct result of increased UKIP support).
I'd still support a Swiss system, almost all legislation decided by the members of the public that possess an interest in it - no dumbshit voters being wheeled out every four years, no whipped career politicians voting for shit they don't care about.
>>80904323
Then the recession happened
>>80904365
>I just wanted to make sure I thanked all you retards for supporting the leave campaign.
Your welcome :3
>>80902975
>>80903932
>>80904304
I would sweat too if I met Jean Le Pen, so fucking based.
>>80904297
A lot of conservatives want us to drag our feet for a considerably long time before we submit article 50
I wonder if Theresa May's PMQs bants are going to be as top tier as Cameron's were.
You'd think not, but in her leadership bid speech she absolutely fucking rekt Boris by talking about his shit tier water cannon negotiating.
>>80904296
The paddy is not an autist, he's just a young libcuck whose mind has been filled with all kinds of abstract utopian continental nonsense that he has readily lapped up in lieu of his country lacking any kind of sense, direction or coherent political culture or identity.
>>80904296
He's not autistic, m8ey. We may disagree but he is arguing his position well
>>80904231
Trump/BoJo 2016
>>80904476
I think with three Brexiteers at the helm, we know where the wind is blowing
>>80904328
Hawk
>>80904476
>Wait for Deutsche Bank and Italy to bring down to eurozone then trigger article 50 to add insult to injury
>>80904172
>somewhere from 35-40% of Labour voters voted to leave the EU
What the fuck is he thinking?
>>80904172
This John Oliver clone running for Leader is just silly.
We were ready for Corbyn to beat Angela into the dust and Labour to stabilise/consume itself to death but no, more drama.
>>80904328
Based
>>80904304
I prefer her grandmother desu
>>80904172
Eagle is not going the Blarites chosen candidate, she never was.
She is going to take all the anti-corbyn hits and do everything to keep him out of the race, then the real Leader elect will step in and run.
This is exactly the same move the cons played with Osbourne/May. Osbourne did the dirty work ravaging Gove and Boris during the referendum May just sat back and stepped in when Cameron stepped down.
is May a good or a bad thing?
And has she ever fornicated with swine?
>>80900686
Davis is a pushover and soft on immigration. The last person you want negotiating a Brexit.
>>80904328
He seems to me to be a typical Republican. Slightly socially conservative and v interventionist
>>80904430
SJW PM
>>80904172
I can't wait for Corbechev to destroy this cunt.
>>80904192
It's never happened and likely would never happen except where the commission had done something absolutely outrageous or illegal. The broadness of the parliament would make it pretty much impossible to do it for political purposes, unless there was a continent wide landslide for 1 or 2 parties which agree with one another
>>80904227
People assumed that since he stood for UKIP he was like Nige.
>>80904328
Long term eurosceptic. Right of the Tory party, Big advocate of the armed forces. Hard worker.
He'll do well in his role, the only concern is that he doesn't get on well with Davis but I'm sure they'll be able to put that aside
>>80904706
Wow you dunce, theres another thread already
>>80904792
It's not linked
>>80904584
He is thinking about those sweet, sweet millennial votes from the recent Labour membership surge. He will at the very least take a huge chunk of Corbyns newfound supporters.
>>80904722
>Corbyn
>Capable of destroying anything other than his own party
o im laffin
>>80904144
Bad example I guess. I've never worker the tills at a super market. Did they not did they shop there?
Maybe they should be working at Argos. Easy as fuck jobs they could do there.
I'm not saying a disable person isn't handicapped just that if they aren't as productive they shouldn't have been given that job in the first place.
>>80904551
David Davies doesn't sounds like he didn't want to rush it through in recent interviews...... just saying
>>80904476
That's two fucking years are dragging. All you have to do is wait long enough for the eu to flinch.
>>80904192
Threatened it once in 1999 which led to the Commission pre-emptively resigning. Other than that, no times.
I'm not sure how long that procedures been in place though, it might only have been brought in as recently as Maastricht.
>(I can't actually find the article detailing this mechanism though I'm sure it exists)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament#Control_of_the_executive
I couldn't tell you the treaty provision though. Never bothered to learn them off because a) EU constitutional law is a fuck massive area that's difficult to memorise in its entirety and b) we were allowed to bring the treaties into our exams.
>>80904271
>FPTP is designed to create stable majority governments by sacrificing voting share representation for 2 parties.
And you call yourself a democrat, disenfranchising most of your voters and having gerrymandering by design?
FPTP was used because it's a simple system, its shortcomings only become apparent after 100 or so years of it. We only realised how crap it was after seeing what happened to the US/UK.
>>80904281
>Exactly, it isn't democratic because of the confederal nature of the EU. Democracy requires a level of kinship with electors that Britain simply doesn't have with the EU due to our divergent historical paths (post 1689)
I wouldn't say it's not democratic necessarily, but you're right in saying it fulfils a different purpose. It plays a completely different role to national parliaments, it doesn't have nearly as much power in the day-to-day running of the Union as national parliaments do and is much more consensus-based. It's also closer to the continental system than the Westminster system in style, which is much more collaborative.
You've also got to recognise that it's current state is not its envisioned final state. It's essentially a work in progress.
>>80904502
>You'd think not, but in her leadership bid speech she absolutely fucking rekt Boris by talking about his shit tier water cannon negotiating.
delivery was shit
>>80904390
>Currently, FPTP allows constituencies to have MPs that represent them - obviously this only barely works in practice, but under PR, there's literally 0 choice.
Depends on the type of PR. Our system, PR-STV, which we use for all our elections from local right up to European, works by having between 3 and 5 MPs per constituency, depending on size.
>I'd still support a Swiss system, almost all legislation decided by the members of the public that possess an interest in it - no dumbshit voters being wheeled out every four years, no whipped career politicians voting for shit they don't care about.
I wouldn't like that at all, way too many fuck the system protest votes on stupid non-issues. I'd rather professionals who treat governing as a full time job were elected, but reflect the ideology and wishes of those who elect them.
>>80901619
TOP KEK LEAF
>>80905085
>Gerrymandering by design
Constituency boundaries are determined by independent bodies in each of the 4 UK countries respectively.
Politicians have no say in what the boundary changes are and they can't cherry pick them either, they get all of them or none of them.
We're not the US, the US genuinely does Gerrymander as elected representatives manipulate boundaries to benefit their parties. The UK does not gerrymander, we used to, we no longer do. Just look at the shape of most constituencies, they tend to be generally square or circular, you don't see the snaking or frequent irregular shapes you'd get with gerrymandering.
There are a lot of genuine criticisms to be made of our system but Gerrymandering is not one of them.
>>80902353
It's weird, I go to plymouth and occasionally seeing pol memes in real life surprises me.
>>80901118
Are you mad?
The EUSSR is over buddy
>>80905085
FPTP has its flaws but independent candidates from small communities stand a much better chance of getting to parliament.
Individual MPs can be held to the will of a local population very easily.
Gerrymandering shouldn't happen if the boundaries are drawn by an independent body.
Roughly 50/50 system of FPTP and PR gives something like this
CON 275 -55
LAB 207 +55
SNP 42 -14
LIB 27 +19
UKP 39 +38
GRN 12 +11
DUP 5 -3
SIF 3 -1
PCY 3 0
SDL 3 0
UUP 2 0
IND 1 0
Worked this our by hand the other day(some numbers might be off by 1 or 2) and forgot to write down the exact system but it was roughly 1 MP for every 2 constituencies won (rounding up) and 300 MPs allocated by PR.
>>80906402
Fair enough. I stand corrected. There are still an awful lot of "safe seats" though, which is problematic.
>>80906829
Interesting. I've personally never been a fan of list systems but that's my own STV bias.
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