Besides Trump and his hat, post the first thing that comes to mind when you think of how Great America has ever been. Pic related for me.
>inb4 hiroshima nuke photo
No one here is Japanese and will care, but if you do think that is a legit answer, post away.
It makes me sad that we'll never see anything as beautiful as the SR-71 again.
the sailor and nurse kiss.
seeing a premature baby that should be dead kept alive in that big box in the hospital
>>80819299
Einstein created the nuke
>>80819579
Of course, he Jewed atoms into exploding.
>>80819579
>only because of the Manhattan Project
>>80819579
No he hinted to america that the germans were attempting to invent nukes
>>80818435
Look whose flag is on its way to the moon.
1950's
when the rest of the world looked to us as the example of how life should be
when we owned 1/3 of the entire world economy
when new york was the center of everything
when men were men and women were women
one of the only times in history where when people were asked if they were happy and hopeful with their lives 90% said "yes"
truly our golden age and it hurts to know that it's gone
>inb4 liberals start posting feminist articles showing that the 1950's were actually terrible when it was clearly our zenith
>>80818435
>destroy entire Iraqi republican guard tank division
>no loses
>>80820001
Lmao half you cucks on here wouldn't survive the 50s
>no internet
>no neetbux
>no anime
Face it, /pol/, most of you neckbeards would commit sudoku within a week of living in 50s america
>>80820086
>A bunch of fig-eaters wearing towels on their heads, trying to find reverse in a Soviet tank.
>This is not a worthy adversary.
>>80820234
i have had a job and i have 1 year of college.
suck my dick
id hate no internet and no vidya at first but then I'd get over it and bang hot submissive white chicks and travel the world and bang hot foreign chicks
>>80820234
>go to business
>"i need job"
>you willing to work hard and learn, son?
>"yes"
>congratulations, here's your new position that will last 45 years with promotions. you're going to be able to afford a wife, 2-3 kids, a house, and a couple cars.
>"i don't need 3 master's degrees and 20 years work experience?"
>LOL NO BECAUSE AMERICAN DREAM
If we only knew what we've lost.
![Apollo_17_LRO[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZaY1cHd.jpg "Apollo_17_LRO[1].jpg")
Apollo 17 site as seen from the LRO.
>>80820447
also this, even if I was a neet I'd probably get a job easily just by being a white american male
>>80820429
>there are people on here that actually believe this
Lmao keep fantasizing
>>80818435
>blackbird
>leaking half its fuel just to start up
>and then the pilot praying the plane doesn't disintegrate in mid air
>and then hoping it won't explode on landing
>just to take a bunch of shitty photos no one needs
>>80820447
>>80820585
t. People who don't know anything about 50s america and are pulling roleplay out of their asses
>>80820587
believe what? that I know how to work and have education?
sorry to break it to you but just because you're incompetent and have no job or gf doesn't mean the rest of us are as pathetic...
though I'm sure a lot are
>>80820727
>wasn't born in the 1950's
>believes liberal propaganda that it wasn't that great
>thinks he knows what 1950's was actually like
>>80819655
>only possible thanks to the work of ernest rutherford
t. kiwi in aus
>>80819842>>80819842
> teeth bring her down a peg. 50's MAGA
>>80820447
I have a wife, two kids, a few cars, two houses and own a family business. The American Dream may truly we'll be extremely hard to find but it isn't dead.
>>80820623
>>leaking half its fuel just to start up
It's because it moves so fast the friction causes thermal expansion, which stops the leaks.
This all a bit above the country that puts screen doors on their submarines, though.
I guess now is a time to start putting up pictures of what the 1950's was actually like
>>80820234
You imbecile. Without the Internet most of us would never have succumbed to the addictions that keep us here. Anime is degenerate; once upon a time children and adolescents used to read books that stimulated their intelligence and improved their cultural baggage and their command of English.
You didn't need neetbux in the 50s, because you would have been basically forced to do odd jobs, even if you didn't want to do them. Today no one will force you to do shit, and José from over the border is mowing your lawn and picking melons in the plantation.
>>80820779
>bang hot submissive white chicks and travel the world and bang hot foreign chicks
Its like something straight out of a virgin's diary
>>80819305
Don't be dramatic. There's no shortage of subjectively beautiful aircraft.
Pic related is a c-5 galaxy loading a c-130. This is borderline pornographic for me.
The f-14 and f-22 are also pretty sexy in their own ways.
>>80820001
Whenever i drive past inner city ghettos I always wonder what things were like back the 40's and 50's. I makes me sad seeing historic neighborhoods being run down by niggers and spics. Thank god for gentrification. Someday i'd like to own a comfy little home from the 1920's in a revived neighborhood.
>>80821169
I'd hit it
>>80820489
>we sent stuff to the moon =/= we sent men to the moon
>>80819943
>that sexy rocket
;_;7
>>80819305
>>80821169
>not having helicopter waifus.
>>80821081
Based Swiss bro. BTW I applaud your country's Muslim minaret ban (assuming that's correct)
>>80820842
>frogposter
>never lived in 50s either
>hasn't really done any research about the 50s
>thinks he's superior because he's seen movies about the 50s and gosh golly doesn't america look great, everybody's white, rich, and happy
Of course, how could I be so blind, please enlighten me with your infinite wisdom.
>>80820447
A bit of an exaggeration but no affirmative action or diversity quotas to cuck you out of the running. Plus no niggers or women running for it so hopefully less competition.
>>80818435
Relatively speaking, Murika was "greatest" at the end of WW2. Nothing to do with nuking Japan, just that we were absolutely at the top rung of the ladder of life.
>>80818435
>Gonna shoot'cha right down
>A HAW HAW HAW!
>>80821297
It is correct. The BASED hero who made it possible, is this beautiful God:
>>80820623
>poland
>having an opinion on U.S. engineering
>ever
Don't make us send Germany to pay you another visit.
>>80820001
>1950's USA
Having 1950s USA as a role model was also why Japanese reconstruction turned out as well as it did.
>>80821169
>using a plane to transport...a plane?
'Murca...fuck yeah!
>>80821342
no, unlike you i've actually done the research hence the
"1/3 of world economy"
and the fact that everyone had brand new everything back then and had plenty of money to spend
money equates happiness and people had a lot of extra money to spend back then
>>80821227
Breh you couldn't even begin to satisfy her if there were 200 of you.
>>80821526
>1950's welfare family
fixed that for ya
The beginning of ..
>>80821510
>GDP = wealth
>wealth = happiness
Ah, I see
So everyone was beaming upper class millionaires then?
>>80821722
>staff sergeant in the USAF in the 1950's
>welfare
>>80821467
#zuglife my nigga.
>constant threat of nuclear war with the ussr
>people were getting drafted to serve in korea
>no civil rights
>>80821777
the vast majority back then were upper middle class when compared to today's middle class
but middle class back then meant you could live comfortably and have a lot of extra money for leisure, yes
Make USNavy THICC Again
>>80821687
Adult white males in this time period had literally the best time in American history. It will never be this good again.
Truly the peak of a civilisation.
>>80818435
1. Moon landing
2. Flag raising at Iwo Jima
3. An A-10 Brrrrrt slaying terrorists
>>80821342
So what is your argument against post-war america? Other than
>muh womyn
>muh nigs
>muh cold war
Let's face it, after WWII America was at its peak, both culturally and economically. Well paid manufacturing jobs were plentiful, promiscuity was frowned upon, and the nation was united against commie scum.
Your posts just reek of tumblr and you probably have blue hair. Filthy liberal
>>80820001
We were actually a nation with a culture and sense of identity then. It all changed when the 1965 immigration act attacked.
>>80821909
Yea agreed, and as the sad cycle of humanity goes, they wasted it. WW2 era sacrified, so baby boomers could buttfuck a couch and watch TV all day, degenerating the shining city on a hill to a sewer filled with shills. Our challenge is to restore the US to a state of MAGA+BTEB
But it won't ever be great again
>>80821342
Neither my father nor my 7 uncles (total from both sides of my family) had the education and knowledge that I possess. This would be the 50's / 60's generation.
EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM DID BETTER THAN I HAVE.
They literally just got jobs and were good workers 40 hours a week and had families, homes, vacations, etc. I can barely make the fucking rent.
Out of all my siblings / cousins (17 total) which would span the 70's / 80's, 2 or 3 have arguably done as well as the prior generation, 2 considerably better, the others considerably worse. Now with no real hope of catching up.
I'm now old enough that the possibility of a family is practically gone, and I would have to some how become a millionaire for my lifetime earnings to ever surpass theirs.
So fuck off. I fucking hate what offshoring / H1B / immigration has done to America, and I would like to slowly boil alive the fuckers responsible for all of it.
>>80818435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdufzXvjqw
>>80822299
forgot pic
notice how every car in this picture is brand new
which is because nearly everyone could afford a brand new car or two
Post vintage cozy videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-6gnFO11JY
>>80821169
>>80821267
>BRRRRT
>>80822370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qadw2rFiaJc
>>80821886
[Citation needed]
>>80822450
>I have no argument and am only here to shitpost
>>80822421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX45pYvxDiA
>>80822148
Decadence has destroyed the West, we're merely scavenging around in the smoldering ruins, distracting ourselves with entertainment and petty bullshit.
>>80818435
Niggers, we're so bad ass we went to the moon and played fucking games. Let's see those faggot commies do that.
>>80822557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIT4Hk6YP5o
>>80821901
Honestly? I believe every branch of the military should maintain small groups that operate with equipment that is not dependent on modern electronics and digital computers.
For the Navy that probably means bringing back the Iowa class battleships.
For the USAF I imagine the A-10 could be modified to operate effectively even if all its modern electronics failed.
I don't trust a 100% digitized military. We need some units that can survive any type of attack by hackers, electronic warfare, etc.
>pic related: commander of the one battlestar not dependent on networked computers
![281225-man-on-the-moon[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZeGWQ0P.jpg "281225-man-on-the-moon[1].jpg")
>>80818435
Oh, say can you see?
>>80822580
Yep
>>80818435
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
Henry Ford, the most 'Merican American that ever America'd.
>>80822450
Minimum wage: $0.75/hour
Gas: $0.27 or 22m
Movie ticket: $0.48 or 38m
Rent: $42 or 56hrs
go embarrass yourself somewhere else now
>>80821837
>common enemy to keep the country united
>actually winning wars instead of pulling out whenever we get close to victory
>no sambo/spic voters supporting commie politicians
Truly the golden age of our nation
>>80822723
They certainly aren't lacking in modern electronics, but the OV-10 and A-29 are kind of getting used today.
>>80822952
>commie fuck liberal BTFO
Have a 50's diner for blowing the liberal TFO.
>>80821982
Nice ad hominem attacks, but hate to say that you're wrong about me.
Every past generation or time is romaticized by the current one, and while I'm not saying that 50s america was bad, you're imagining an idealized version of it.
We've made huge technological and humanitarian advancements since then, allowing modern society to live longer, healther, not die in infancy, etc. Our businesses are bigger, better, and more efficient than ever, and the same could be said about almost every industry and niche of society.
Every decade has been more peaceful than the last, relatively, even though it may not seem like it.
These "much nostalgia" threads really bother me because you see the same people post about how libkeks are shit because all they do is appeal to emotion, which isn't wrong per we, just hypocritical.
Point is, you're romanticizing.
>>80822952
i suppose i should clarify
Gas: $0.27 per gallon or 22minutes of work at minimum wage
Movie ticket: $0.48 or 38m of work
Rent: $42 a month or 56hrs of work
> the 50s was the American golden age
All the stories like 1984 and Brave new world that took places in a far off future , we're living that future lads .
>>80822261
I never disagreed with you on this point, it was indeed easier to get by back then. This isnt a product of immigration as much as it is a product of globalism and capitalism.
Did you go to college though?
>>80823255
Aren't you so glad we got this instead of space colonization though?
>>80823183
Technology has masked some of the failings of modern America, but the middle class is being destroyed.
Yes, you can see that in the numbers without emotion.
No, not everything is better today.
And that's not even addressing the degeneracy. You think my parent's generation had trouble dating and getting married? Yeah, OK, the marriages weren't always perfect and some didn't work out too well. But today's hookup culture full of tatted single moms is shit unless all you want is a meaningless existence.
America's has been going down hill for a while.
>>80818435
The X-15 program.
We strapped a man piloted missile to a plane, fired it off and broke every speed record and altitude record in history.
>>80822952
Minimum wage: $8-15
Movie ticket: $11
Gas: ~$2
I don't see your point
>>80822964
What war did we win after ww2?
>>80823255
>we're living that future lads
We've been living it since 2010, arguably 2008.
Feels bad.
>>80823183
>Every past generation or time is romaticized by the current one
Really? So why aren't the 1930s romanticized? Or the 1970s?
Oh that's right, because you are full of shit. Romanticism is a political and artistic movement that specifically values and elevates agrarian small farmers, and is a rejection of modernity, cities, and the industrial revolution.
The 1950s are looked up to because society was not degenerate, and there was a nearly ubiquitous conscious social effort to remove degeneracy from society. Essentially, the young families of the 1950s had endured the Great Depression AND World War 2, and were determined to eliminate negative pressures from the lives of their children to the greatest extent possible. This created the coddled generation of baby boomers who, knowing no adversity at all in their lives, decided that niggers being treated as they deserved was somehow oppressive, and they burned down their society in an attempt to make men of animals.
>>80823362
Ok, but this affects you how exactly?
Were people in the 1950s generally "happier" or is that a meme?
It seems like a lot of people today view simpler lives, specifically more "hands on" type lives like farming or taking up a single trade for your entire life to be more satisfactory and generally a quality of life improvement at the expense of not being rich, which they view as a fine tradeoff. Is this just a grass is greener/rose tinted goggles type situation or are people who live more modestly generally happier despite the hardships?
>>80823255
>>80823501
I blame CERN
I want to go home.
>>80823327
>college
The two cousins who have done substantially better than anyone from the previous generation did not.
Some of the rest of us did, myself included. ONE of that group has done OK, arguably on par with the previous generation. The rest of us? LOL
Also: not one worthless womyn's studies or other BS degree among the sub group.
>>80823362
I feel like society has finally woken up to all of these things though and there is broad popular support for change on both sides of the political spectrum.
I feel like everyone can finally see the sickness in society. And admitting there's a problem is the first step. Even though liberal solutions are fucked.
If this was the 80s, boomers would tell you to stfu and work harder, and your problems are your own fault.
>>80818435
>cocksucker
explain here >>80822912
>>80823541
It's a little exaggerated but it is true .
>>80822400
I love the warthog and everything it BRRTs for but it's not exactly a sexy looking aircraft. It basically looks like one of those balsa wood models you used to build as a kid strapped to the teeth with armament and 2 jet engines lazily glued to the tail. Again, I love the warthog but it's so visually unappealing.
Raptor master race.
>>80823183
>claiming that the US is doing better than over
wew lad the liberal brainwashing they did on you
anyone have any theories why liberals are so invested in discrediting the 50's?
My guess is that because racism was far more widespread and women were expected to stay at home and be mothers
And the fact that the 1950's was our most successful time in all of US history just flies in the face of everything they believe in to be important
>>80823541
Here the meme is that up to about $87,000 AUD a year your happiness increases, once you get richer than that the statistics start to turn grim again
>>80818435
From the gazillion things that come to my mind when you say "America", I have to choose this.
I know it's just a mere "shuttle", but still... For me this machine's been a symbol of America since I was a kid. I had a poster of it above my bed. It inspired me. It was a symbol of the big country behind the ocean where big things happen and which we all looked up to when the USSR disintegrated. This machine is a legacy of the greatest times of the greatest country on Earth.
MAGA
>>80823505
>1980s - 1990s romanticized
>1920s romanticized
>hell, even the fucking 19th century is sometimes romanticized
Also I was talking about people romanticizing the past in the past. Ask your parents or a baby boomers about what they thought about the 20s/earlier growing up
>>80823710
kek
>>80823522
>single
>struggling
>at my age my father had a wife and two kids
>a home, two cars, motor home, we took vacations, etc...
Fuck off.
>>80823604
Can I ask what you majored in that didn't work out?
>>80823541
if they were white (which 90% of american citizens were)
then yes most were very happy
minimum wage was easily enough to live off and save with
and very little education or experience was required to get good jobs
>>80823837
Oh boy. So you blame your personal failings on others' "degeneracy"?
Take responsibility for your own life and actions
>>80823627
>sexy is great
The 104 was sexy, but it was a piece of shit to fly
>>80823627
Meh, there are different kinds of beauty. There's so much awesome combat footage of the a-10.
I happen to like the smaller bodies of the new f-35 too. Planes with VTOL make me sweat.
The f-22 is my current fave though.
>>80818435
test
>>80819299
I saw your flag and kek'd
>>80823940
Minimum wage: $0.75/hour
Gas: $0.27 or 22m
Movie ticket: $0.48 or 38m
Rent: $42 or 56hrs
>>80822952
>>80823184
Minimum wage: $0.75/hour
Gas: $0.27 or 22m
Movie ticket: $0.48 or 38m
Rent: $42 or 56hrs
>>80823710
>tfw that's one of my desktop pictures
The shuttle was a strategic error, born of cost estimates that were far too optimistic. From the perspective of cold numbers we should have continued using single use rockets. (Though Space X will probably get reusable space launch right.)
But that thing was still a massive fucking achievement and a technological tour de force. I'm inspired every time I watch a shuttle launch video.
>inb4 we lost two
Both losses were due to ignorant fucking management not listening to engineers. Challenger was completely avoidable. And we might have still lost the Columbia orbiter, but there was a good chance we could have saved the crew if some bean counting management bitch had not made the call.
>>80823456
>rent: $800 + roomates or $2000 to live in a non-shithole
>>80823183
How are things better today?
The average joe nowadays needs 3 masters degrees, a decade of work experience, and a 2 letters of recommendation just to get a decent middle-class job. (i know it's hyperbole)
The cost of food and rent is rising every year, and wages are stagnanting. Minorities are dependent on government handouts.
Millions of young adults are thousands of dollars in debt before even purchasing a house.
Healthcare costs have artificially inflated exponentially.
Pop music and social media are effectively dumbing down future generations.
The family unit has been eroded. Today's youth prefers to sleep around rather than marry in their 20's.
Single motherhood is enabled the government, ultimately leading to higher crime rates in minority communities.
>etc.etc.
America has been on the decline for decades. The technology we enjoy today is just a pacifier to keep the masses in check while the rest of the country falls into the hands of globalists.
>>80823940
What the fuck are you talking about? Did your brain fart and you just forgot all the previous posts???
F-16 looks like the Viper from BSG.
Both American treasures.
>>80823823
space race was just a competition to show off and outdo each other
everyone believes we won the space race because we put the first man on the moon
so purpose of the space race was achieved
so we won the space race
>>80823746
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism
>Romanticism (also the Romantic era or the Romantic period) was an artistic, literary, musical and intellectual movement that originated in Europe toward the end of the 18th century and in most areas was at its peak in the approximate period from 1800 to 1850.
Or maybe you could learn something and realize that you are actually wrong on your point.
Now, you may have had a good point if you said that people tend to have a skewed idea of past eras, but you chose the word romanticism, and then you doubled down on it. So you can just be wrong and eat it.
Furthermore, you are wrong to say that a focus on the 1950s as a particular good period in a way they don't deserve is merely viewing the past through rose colored glasses. If that were the case, why choose the 1950s instead of the 1940s or the 1960s? Maybe you should look for the actual reasons people say the 1950s were good instead of being so dismissive of a point of view you do not understand.
>>80824250
Forgot pic
>>80824131
repeating what you said before over and over again doesn't make it right, and it isn't an argument.
>>80822723
>modified
IIRC the A-10 has like three different flight control systems for backup
fly-by-wire, hydraulic and cables, or something to that effect
DOW and S&P at record highs today.
Fuck yeah America.
>>80824301
Seriously, what the fuck are you on about?
>>80819579
Einstein played a key roll in getting the Manhattan project started but had almost nothing to do with the actual creation of the bombs.
>>80824214
?? I don't understand what you mean.
Anyways I'm gonna go to bed, its a bit late for arguments
>>80819299
That is so fucking cool
>>80824156
>tfw it costs 2 to 3k for a tiny,tiny 2 bedroom apartment where I live
Ching Chongs fucked our market hard
>>80824338
person clearly didn't read the part where they lost the argument so i kindly posted it again
>>80824541
Off with the libcuck
>>80821250
must have been some high tech robots to make those fake footprints all over the landing site eh!
>>80824409
I'm sure the A-10 can fly without its digital systems. But being effective means equipment to support its mission, and pilots actually trained "in the dark" so to speak.
Example: for something like an Iowa class battleship, that means the crew can navigate by compass and stars, reach a location, and target the enemy with the WWII mechanical shit.
It might seem paranoid, but if I was in control of things there would be a few units in each branch that could operate without modern networking, microprocessors, or integrated circuits of any kind.
>>80820956
I love how all the betafags eat this shit up like its true.
She only likes trump because its not mainstream or normal. If you're going to dress like that, you should just paint a target on your back saying "I want to seem original and hip XD"
>>80820429
So why aren't you banging hot chicks around the world? Lemme guess, the joos are oppressing you
>>80824620
You are based so here's another 50's photo.
>>80824778
you can probably BRRT stuff with reasonable accuracy, just pop in a physical target marker
I guess you'd need some modification for stuff like unguided bombs though
a purely mechanical weapon selector might get tricky with hardpoints
>>80824778
you do realize that the iowa's guns and armor are fucking useless versus modern anti ship missiles right.
>>80823959
Are those Middlesex at the wingtip or what are they there for?
>>80824292
>everyone believes we won the space race because we put the first man on the moon
>only in CNN niggers dreams
ok
>>80824948
grill on the right is a qt thank you kind sir
here's a rare pepe for your troubles
Singing this over and over in music class in the 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps7xmW-9LXQ
>>80824778
The A-10's backup systems include a cable and pulley control system. As in WWI tech. The thing can return to base missing half a wing, half the tail, an engine and the hydraulics. It will be a total write-off but it will survive.
The Iowas had at their tome of construction several methods of navigating built in, and when they were upgraded in the 80s they had more added, including GPS and INS.
INS meaning they can operate blind. The original FCS is mechanical/optical, with later additions (muzzle radar for example) increasing accuracy but not replacing the originals.
You aren't paranoid, most late cold war systems were designed to function even after the satellites were no longer around.
>>80821577
That looks gay as fuck
>>80824736
>wobbly lines on photo
>must be footprints (because we went to the moon)
try harder, moonbeam unicorn faggot
>>80824945
idk if you looked around in the country you're in recently
but having a job and 1 year of college is nowhere near having money to waste on travel
and western women are sluts
>>80825061
>Russians achieved first satellite, first animal in space, first human in space, first lunar rover, first and only Venus rover, first space station, and more
>USA puts a flag on the moon
>"We won the space race"
I know your feel, slavbro
>>80825142
>a father reading with his young daughters
AYO HOL UP WHAT DIS SHIT
>>80825118
I think even the earliest FCS on Iowa had electronic radar as an option.
Unlike Yamato, rip ;_;7
>>80825276
>father present in family
>AYO HOL UP
fixed that for you
>>80825005
If we had to order units to fight without modern ICs that would probably mean the SHTF in a way that nobody's missiles are working. (Yes, I know military ICs are hardened against EMP and radiation. I still can't help but wonder if it's an exploitable weak point.)
If it means our systems have been hacked BSG style then those units would be in trouble. But at least they would be there.
Also: I was under the impression that an Iowa class in WWII configuration would not be all that vulnerable to anti ship missiles? That must of the equipment that could get really fucked up was modern equipment placed on deck.
>>80824422
Seriously I'm on about you not knowing what the fuck you are talking about. And you still have yet to address a single point.
>>80824899
>she
>>80825005
He's talking about a digital hit on the battlefield scenario, dipshit. Those anti ship missiles would already be useless.
It does make sense to have a core of pure muscle rather than brains in your military.
>>80825031
fueltanks, I think.
>>80825065
>the people of the 1950s would never understand pepe
>the people of the 1950s would probably lynch you for posting a rare pepe
>>80825390
Radar for ranging yes, but they also had optical rangefinding in the 2 director towers and in each turret for local control.
>>80825526
...im not talking to someone from the 1950's...
>>80825468
Depends what ASMs you're using. Most would only do superficial damage or damage external fittings, but some could be a credible threat to the armored citadel-the BrahMos comes to mind, with an AP warhead it could do serious damage.
>>80825523
Oh, you mean a magical hypothetical situation that makes no fucking sense?
Oh whoops, my radar just magically happened to stop working. On every ship in the fucking fleet.
If that happened, we'd have bigger issues than fighting a fucking war.
>>80825666
SATAN YOU LOOK LIKE THAT STUPID BULLSHITTER ON TV
ITS TIME STAN I MEAN SATAN
>>80823390
I remember getting a fact sheet about that aircraft back in the day when I was like 10.
Each month I'd get a new bundle of ~15 and id put them all in a big binder. WWII, Early jets, modern aircraft, eXperimental airframes. They all had their own chapters.
God was I a mega autist back then. Wouldnt trade it for the world.
>Up to September 1963 America was envied by most of the world... but after the assassination of JFK it had lost its soul for ever.
>>80823255
>1984
>Brave New World
It seems we're living in a mix of both
>Pic very related
>>80825390
In that case, how much more viable would IJN designs be for this supposed airgapped fleet? I mean, the whole "Gaijin torpedoes happen to swim right at the depth our upper and lower armor joins" deal shouldn't be a problem if we're the ones crewing it.
>>80820447
Right in the feels, anon. Fuck you. But in a good way, like you like.
>>80825708
Guess which bus will hit you?
The one you never saw coming!
You're a speshul kind of moron, you know that? The kind they love in the military. They have a speshul job for you...serving the soup to the troops.
All military organizations are planned around the idea that anything could (and probably will) go wrong. And when it does...that's when the shit hits the fan, and the real war starts.
But you carry on with your CoD fantasy world viewpoint, buddy.
>>80825791
aaaaannd this is where everything went downhill.
>The establishment knocked off kennedy
>LBJ creates his "Great society"
>vietnam war escalates
>Nixon's war on drugs
>>80820001
I'd miss my small nervous turbo 4 pots but 1950s murica sounds great
>>80821633
> Good, decent women
> Not whores
> All thin
> Trying actively to be attractive for husubandos, not just looking for attention
This will never exist again. Why even live?
>>80825994
Shit doesn't just magically happen anon.
If you can't explain how it could possibly come to be that every fucking radar in the US navy fleet would all stop working, you can fuck right off. You don't prepare for a situation so preposterous as to be impossible, that's a waste of time and money, which is why the USN does not follow this retarded philosophy of yours and returned all the bbgs to the junkyard.
>>80825708
>Oh, you mean a magical hypothetical situation that makes no fucking sense?
A hardened IC is hardened to a point. Not to any conceivable level of EMP or ionizing radiation. Systems built for spaceflight have redundant processors and failure modes precisely because they not only can experience radiation induced error, they almost certainly will...multiple times...during their mission.
Granted, the scenarios where large numbers of military grade equipment would be physically disabled would be extremely rare. But not impossible.
The other thing that concerns me is hacking. We're going balls out networking every last piece of military equipment. Makes for a very effective and integrated force. But what happens if an adversary can exploit that? Of course the problem in that scenario is that the enemy would still have their full capability, so your "old school" capable units may not last long.
I don't know...maybe the answer is to simply make sure we can fire ICBMs and SLBMs no matter what the scenario.
>>80824607
I feel for you canadabro
>Recently vacationed in Vancouver
>stayed in a house that was about half the size I have in the states.
>Looked up the price for similar houses in North Van
>Average price 1.5 MILLION
For that I could move to straight up beachfront developments.
Chingchongs are fucking you guys hard as a "bank" for their money.
Take that shit back.
>>80826147
who needs decent, self-respecting women nowadays? YOLO amirite guise? :^)
>>80826381
>the problem in that scenario is that the enemy would still have their full capability
yeah nah
The USN has already demonstrated that it can shoot satellites down at will. We had a domestic "decaying" satellite that we sniped down just to show the world we could.
Think about what we can do that we're not willing to show off.
>>80826284
>If you can't explain how it could possibly come to be that every fucking radar in the US navy fleet would all stop working, you can fuck right off.
Sure...that makes sense...
>Hello? Hello? Kremlin here...is that president Obama...Hi...we just called to let you know about our top secret program you don't know about that used sleeper agents to plant viruses into the software of your military control systems as they're being installed...Oh, you already know about that one. OK, how about the stealth satellite we've got that drops EMP grenades right over the heads of your military commanders (who all work for us anyway)? You didn't know? Wow...good job we told you, eh?
conversations that never happen.bmp
Honestly, you should just shut the fuck up now. Military commanders plan for shit that they think can never happen, because that's how wars are won and lost, stupid.
Google Bletchley Park, why don't you?
>>80826746
>sleeper agents
>viruses
>stealth
>emp
Meme after meme anon, can you come up with a plausible answer (i.e. one that doesn't sound like a tom clancy novel)?
>>80826746
You seem to think that the only competent army in the world is the russian one.
>>80826746
>>80826891
Additionally, where are the Russians getting all this tech? And all the money to develop it?
They can't even keep their actual military on par with the US, why would they have a mythical secret unheard of super weapon?
It's not the height of the cold war you know.
>>80826147
can find women like that still
but they won't be white (unless you're extremely extremely lucky)
and most likely will come from a poor country
but yeah its pretty depressing what we get today instead
>>80826615
>We had a domestic "decaying" satellite that we sniped down just to show the world we could.
>US closes half the Pacific to stop anyone watching the "shooting down" of one of it's own satellites.
meanwhile...
>China publicly sends hunter/killer anti-satellite missile up to "gently bump" a piece of space junk
Stop believing the hype, you idiot. Your military is as susceptible to hacking, sidestepping and bullshit claims as anyone else's. In an all out war, the US navy would get blasted halfway to hell in a matter of hours. Just like every other navy.
>>80826891
>>80826963
You two seem to think your fantasies about how war is conducted are all written down in a big pentagon book somewhere.
"No plan survives the onset of battle" Napoleon.
>>80818435
>>80818435
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
pic related: Making Black Lives Matter
>>80827198
You've not given me a real response anon. You cannot describe a plausible situation in which retardedly redundant WW1 tier systems would be a good idea, just making vague comments and moving goalposts.
>>80827198
And they also know, do you think that they haven't covered their asses? Or do you really think that the military are going to leave such a weak spot out there in the open? Have you seen any military electronics? They're not about this efficiency probrammed obsoloescency bullshit they sell to the public, they're built and programmed to be simple, robust and stable.
>>80820956
thats a hot tranny
to bad he cant get girl hands
>>80826891
>viruses aren't real
>hardware back doors aren't real
Where do you get your computer info? A 1980 Sears catalog?
>emp powerful enough to wreck even hardened systems just can't happen
Difficult, but not physically impossible.
>>80827069
>Additionally, where are the Russians getting all this tech? And all the money to develop it?
>because hacking requires billion dollar super high tech
>not cold lonely russian nerds in a basement with some PCs
Look, it would appear that the U.S. military agrees with you more than either of us. But that may be a mistake.
Can we get back to wishing America was more like the 1950's?
>>80820842
>wasn't born in the 1950s
>believes golden age fantasy
>willfully ignores the problems that actually did exist in the 50s
>spends all day on an internet imageboard reminiscing with his bros about how cool it would have been to live in the 1950s
>does this while neglecting to work on themselves in the present
t. Aspergers Anon
>>80827069
>>80827069
The Russians (not that I think they are the bees knees...my Kremlin conversation was just an example) have the best air superiority fighter, the best battlefield tank and the best battlefield assault rifle.
America is a busted flush. You went with the high-tech option, and in a balls deep, prolonged conflict you simply can't replace that shit fast enough to keep up. There's a reason military gear is simple and rugged.
>>80827365
I can't give you a response, because I don't know what's out there. Neither do you. Neither do the Pentagon generals. But I can guarantee they are leaning my way not yours.
Why do you think the A10 has 3 different control systems? Why do you think the military mothballs old planes and ships instead of scrapping them?
In Iraq, the American military had massive problems with their comms to begin with. A British officer walked into this clusterfuck and immediately sent out a sergeant to buy up every cellphone he could find. Because unplanned shit happens.
>>80827591
>do you think that they haven't covered their asses?
I promise you that THEY don't think they've covered their asses (they just hope they have)
You people truly have no fucking clue how devious shit gets when it comes to war.
>>80827687
>wasn't born in the 1950s
>believes golden age was a farce
>doesn't actually have any facts or any knowledge about economics of the time and wealth distrubition
>believes liberal propaganda that the 50s were terrible instead
>does this while pretending to be more enlightened than those that disagree with him
t. LiberalCuck Anon
Our right to bear arms is one of the greatest things this country offers. Liberals are trying to take them away from us.
>>80827820
Fuck anon, you're memeing too hard. I'm getting a meme overdose here.
>the best air superiority fighter
That would be the F22, not the 4++++++++ gen T-50.
>best battlefield tank
You mean the meme-14? With those quality Russian optics?
>best assault rifle
It's not better in any tangible way than Western rifles.
>>80818435
FUCKING BASED NIP
I get a massive raging boner everytime I think of this achievement of American ingenuity. Capable of speeds of Mach 3 at a cruising altitude of 85,000 ft, never lost one out in the field and still holds the record for the fastest dual engine jet on the planet.
I'm such a sperglord over this plane that I plan on painting my old Toyota Solara up to look like it, decals, stripes and all.
>>80827365
>You cannot describe a plausible situation in which retardedly redundant WW1 tier systems would be a good idea,
Zero day exploits in the flight control computers of multiple USAF fighters attacked at once via their airborne networking / data links.
This scenario is NOT as implausible you might hope. The F-22 had a rather embarrassing incident thanks to a FUCKING DATE BUG. As I recall 7 fighters were nearly completely disabled and only made it home by visually following their in air refueling tanker which (thank God) was nearby.
Don't tell me there are no exploits. No human being or team of human beings can verify any modern computer system and guarantee that it is free of exploits or bugs. That would be a nearly impossible challenge even with the first digital flight computer on the early F-14 Tomcat.
Thing is, the F-22 and F-35 don't fly at all without the computer. Ever. So it might be a good idea to train for that scenario with a few of the planes that can.
No, you're not going to fight World War fucking III with most of your military temporarily disabled. But you might just defend your shores long enough to patch/repair the shit that failed.
>>80828076
>SIR!...cuz my drill sergeant told me...SIR!
Just fuck off with the bullshit propaganda, will you?
Just once. For 5 minutes.
I now pray for ww3 just so I can see the amazed look on burgers faces as their forces take a hard kicking from an enemy which isn't an impoverished 3rd world shit-hole.
>>80818435
Easy answer - the moon landing. That shit makes me want to sing the murcan national anthem. Good job guys
>inb4 uneducated retards claim hoax.
>>80828420
WELL...I would take the F-22 over any other fighter in the world for the air superiority role.
As long as it's computers and oxygen system are working....
>>80828420
And I can't wait for your miserable shithole of a country to cease to exist so I never have to interact with another retarded insufferable britbong again.
>>80828610
>My dad is a vehement hoaxer
How do I wake up from this madness, anons?
>tfw foreignfags will never have historical photos this badass
Actual US hero. Henry Miller. Look him up.
>>80818435
>post the first thing that comes to mind when you think of how Great America has ever been
>Constitution
>Gold rush
>Train nonsense (2 steps forward 1 step backwards)
>industrial age
>melting pot
Better question would be what stops america from being great
>Licenses for everything
>Over reaching government
>Taxes for unneeded shit
>Welfare
OP nailed it with SR-71
>>80828807
>goes round claiming American shit is better than everyone else's shit because (insert USA...USA...USA...nonsense here)
>gets visibly upset because random foreign stranger on internet disagrees
Mods! I thought there was an age bar on this site?
>>80829077
>literally takes 5 men to raise a flag
Kek
Wrecked you in the grave Roosevelt, you crippled fuck.
>>80828867
>>believes golden age was a farce
What kind of an ass was that photographer making of himself to make all those people react that way?
>>80818435
>Greatness
>Posts tanks, aeroplanes, special forces
Pic related is the only reason the US will be remembered in the centuries to come
When did japs become more frequently OPs here in this board?
![npp_06001_1_model_by_william_black-d8c7rhb[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/MfMJmRv.png "npp_06001_1_model_by_william_black-d8c7rhb[1].png")
>>80818435
>>80829829
>anti-federal wankery
>greatness
>>80819305
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>>80822371
Back then cars were shitty though. They generally looked nice, but in every other way they were so shit.
PROTIP: that sort of shit is what has made America NOT GREAT. Enjoy your taxes being blown on black projects.
>>80830663
Yep, kinda like drones, many years before they "had them". Cost a few pilots their lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_D-21
>>80823338
OK. That did it. Nazi me up.
>>80825848
Read Technopoly. Postman's ignored book about the rise of the technocrat. Amazing.
>>80825848
Except the last bit with pain vs pleasure, hate vs love, Huxley and Orwell were both right. It's active vs passive control, it's not so antagonistic but complementary.
Huxley vision is stronger and came first, because consumerism and capitalism will not have people easily consuming/spending on something they just hate.
But look how now they obviously have to use active control to get people to accept the shit they throw at us, which get bigger and bigger... The comic was just made too early to see the whole picture of western society.
![minuteman1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FxFKWMx.jpg "minuteman1[1].jpg")
>>80818435
この写真よね
>>80821169
>putting it in backwards
why?
>>80818435
When we bombed the stupid shit out of Nagasaki.
I'm Chinese, I feel like it was personal.
Also, the fucking Trail of Tears.
>>80834622
possibly weight and balance reasons
>>80827208
>OSHA nightmare
>>80829644
>using a fork to eat azn noodles
that's the real sin
>>80820956
>she
>>80818435
>>80825666
Satan's in the Trump thread!
>>80829644
He tried to take a stealth pic of that girl (who's some famous actress or whatever) but accidentally left his flash on.
>>80822723
You're a fucking idiot. Stop acting like you know a damn thing about military science just because some gay bullshit happened in some gay ass show you watch
>>80818435
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/13/us-food-waste-ugly-fruit-vegetables-perfect
>>80821909
White males? Surely you mean white females, too, faggot. You haven't bought into the feminist concept that life is better for women now than it was then, have you?
>>80818435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ooeaHyoiLE
>>80818435
This.
>>80838288
Designing atom-bomb thrust spaceships.
Pity they weren't built but the idea alone is awe inspiring.
>>80820001
>when men were men and women were women
not always
J Edgar Hoover was a cross dressing queer
>>80822116
>It all changed when the 1965 immigration act attacked.
thank you Ted Kennedy
what a massive faggot, but to be fair if he didn't do it they would have probably shot him
