I was raised a roman catholic but I now can't stand it. I left the church because it was so weak and corrupt. It was shallow, worldly and hedonistic. Catholic families do not take their religion seriously for example they will turn against their religion if their son is gay, they support abortion and gay marriage because it is cool etc. It teaches nothing of fearing god in the next world, for example I only ever heard a priest talk of hell once and it was him referencing a mass from when he was a child, apparently talking about hell upsets people so they had to stop. People in Ireland decided after the 1960s that contraception was more imortant. Its sad to think that the catholic religion survived 400 years under British supression yet as soon as (((((sexual liberation))))) and ((((youth culture))))) begin our religion is rekt. Also Francis I awful.
I actually use to believe in god when I was younger but now I am convinced god is dead. I am now 100% atheist
>>80659384
t. eternal anglo
>>80659595
>celt
Not even close
>>80659384
Catholicism is pretty degenerate
Tridentine Catholic here.
All of what you said is true. This is the product of the new conciliar church; everything you have seen (and which I can confirm, having seen myself at various parishes) was warned against by the Holy Mother at Fatima nearly a century ago. Read what those who have read the Third Secret have said, and read also the prophecy of Bl. Anne Emmerich.
We are in the times warned against by the saints. We are in the times warned against by our catechism. We are in the times warned against by the Holy Mother, and we are in the times warned against by Christ, Who well knew of the day of apostasy and asked whether His disciples believed there would be any faith at His glorious return.
The ecclesia militans must resist the wicked designs of the modernists, speak loudly and boldly in defense of the faith and our Lord, whether heresy is being propagated by the clergy or laity. Recognise it and resist it everywhere for the sake of your own soul if nothing else.
>>80659384
What was that?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/18/top-vatican-cardinal-blasts-demonic-attacks-family-washington-breakfast/
>>80659384
Tipping this hard.
Reminder
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/catholic_heresies-a_list.htm
http://www.gematrix.org/?word=Bishop+of+rome
>>80661015
>fundie Protestantism
>>80659384
Christianity is fine, the people following it nowadays aren't doing it right.
>>80661193
I feel closer to God than I have ever felt, I feel euphoria when I pray, something I never ever felt as a Catholic
>>80659384
Absolutely agree. Iconoclasts and worshippers of false gods, the lot of them.
Who here is a based calvinist?
Catholics look at this and think, yep there is nothing absolutely pagan or idolatrous about this, let alone it is forbidden to preach the word of God in a tounge no one understands!
>>80661312
Nice Photoshop
>>80661378
>Iconoclasts
>Catholics
Do you even know what that word means?
>>80661705
Considering we believe that the bread stops being bread entirely...
>>80661735
It's the Pope's throne kiddo
>>80661857
Sorry, icon worshippers. I'd be the iconoclast.
>>80661705
>let alone it is forbidden to preach the word of God in a tounge no one understands!
People understand Latin dipshit. Or is it immoral for someone who only speaks French to preach the gospel to people who only speak Russian? Or for a Spanish-speaker to go to a Korean church?
>>80662046
Yeah, no it isn't.
>>80662138
Also, define "worship."
>>80659384
t. Orangist
>>80659384
no reason to give up on God. now that youve got that deplorable joke of a religious system out of ur life you have the opportunity to get closer to him than youve ever been
whore of babylon, papist scum, etc
>>80662227
It is
>>80661705
Protestantism was the beginning of it all.
All this "think for yourself" and "fuck all authority except the one i choose" had to lead to modern hedonism.
I mean why was communism invented by a protestant jew living in a mostly protestant country and not say, by an italian or spaniard?
>>80659384
You can become a traditionalist, Vatican II fucked up our religion good, its fate was sealed when the pope didn't denounce Nazi Germany and cooperated with Mussolini. There are several books of the influence of jews in the Council (doubt you can find this one in English).
>>80661312
"The Resurrection” by Pericle Fazzini
It was made when people were worried about Nuclear war and depicts Jesus not only Rising from Hell and the grip of Death (or did you forget he did that?) but also from a nuclear crater because Christ cannot be destroyed.
Is it a really crappy design for a sculpture? Kinda. Is it inherently evil? No you fucking prick, it's a sculpture of Jesus rising out of Death.
>>80662571
The Pope is not a king. He has no "throne" to sit on.
He is a bishop and therefor there is a cathedra (seat or chair) but every bishop has one.
>>80659384
Take a look at abortion rates in Europe
>>80662907
>what is Mit Brennender Sorge
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
God isn't dead. He has just left the Catholic Church because they did not repent as suggested the letters in Revelation.
>>80663191
Well, he technically is a king. But that's only a tacked on role to let Vatican City exist as a sovereign state
>>80660512
People like him give me hope.
>>80662907
The Jews were fairly minor players, I'd argue. Their biggest gift to the Church was Nostra Aetate, which was promulgated by Cardinal Bea and "Traditionalist" hero Fr Malachi Martin. Not to downplay the importance of this wretched document, as it has totally undermined the Church's chief purpose and ushered in an era of ecumenism.
The infiltration of the Church goes back to the 19th century, when Freemasonry and the Alta Vendita were officially recognised as a threat and, later, when it was alleged in Humanum Genus that Freemasons and socialists were allies in the subversion of the Church.
The issue of modernism really started to become a problem at the beginning of the 20th century with figures like Fr Loisy and Fr Tyrrell, whose teachings of biblical criticism and the total abandonment of scholasticism in favour of Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment philosophy gained significant following in seminaries. To a certain extent, I think these men were genuinely attempting to reconcile Sacred Scripture with modern science, but what they effectively achieved was the wholesale sowing of doubt, leading to a massive apostasy among the laity and the clergy from which the Church has still not remotely recovered.
>>80662907
>Mit Brennender Sorge
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit_brennender_Sorge
Also, papal cooperation with Mussolini was pretty much only so Vatican City could have sovereignty from Italy proper.
>>80659384
>"catholic"
>not polish
opinions about the CC outside of Poland are worthless. It's obvious that the only Church that is still christian is here
>>80663428
>what are miracles
>what is Our lady of Fatima
>>80663712
Why not Orthodoxy?
>>80663757
Demonic contradictions of the Bible.
>>80663428
Rather, it's in a period of chastisement because of the heretic V2 council and the ignoring of Mary's warnings at Fatima and Akita.
>>80663746
Robert Sarah isn't Polish though.
Or do you mean "The only church that still Christian IN EUROPE?"
>>80663746
Our Lady only said that the dogmas of the faith would be protected in Portugal. No mention was made of Poland. And, given Poland's most recent gift to the Church - John Paul II, a monstrous ecumenist - I wouldn't be so smug.
>>80663483
Yes but the Pope never took on the title of a "king" (his official title as ruler of VC nowadays is "sovereign").
>>80663872
Where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the only authority?
>>80663972
He destroyed Communism and took Fatima's request to consecrate Russia one step further and consecrated the entire World to Mary.
Yeah you're full of shit. The church will never preform gay marriges and quite clearily says that abortion is murder and cause for excommunication.
>>80663961
Sarah is a total exception. Africans are corrupt, you can hardly call them christians. They treat the Church as another place for dancing and singing. Even Sarah criticizes that
>>80663835
Because much as I love our eastern brothers they are nonetheless schismatics. I am not Orthodox for the same reason that I am not a sedevacantist. The Catholic must never abandon the Bride of Christ, no matter how terribly She suffers. And suffer She shall. The Church is currently undergoing a mystical passion in mirror image of that suffered by our Lord. The duty of the Catholic is to pray diligently, do penance not only for himself but for the Church, and to keep the faith always.
>>80664142
Nowhere but if anything contradicts it. It clearly does not come from God. I'm willing to accept new prophecy but not if it contradicts the Bible.
>>80664188
He failed to consecrate Russia, as confirmed by Sr Lucia. His obsession with defeating communism - which in itself was a noble goal - led to his overlooking and approval of the vile abuses which took place (and continue to do so) at Medjugorje. Worst of all, he was an ecumenist.
>>80664337
Like? How does any of it contradict anything?
>>80663933
When is the last time you've compared those sightings to the Gospels and the Epistles?
>>80664337
How does the Catholic church contradict the Bible, when the Catechism, Encyclicals, and all other documents make extensive references both to works citing the Bible and the Bible itself?
Other than "HURRR SILLY CLOTHES"
>>80664446
Mary is not the ark. The ark is gone and Jeremiah said it would not be missed. Jesus Christ rebuked Mary worship.
>>80664469
Why do I need to compare Marian apparitions to a book that says nothing about them?
Besides, it's not as if the bible is the end-all-be-all of Christian faith.
>>80663972
Let's see:
>St. Faustina
>John Paul II
>Kolbe
>Divine Mercy
Also, we had two eucharistical miracles in a short period of time if you believe in such things. It's clear that in a sea of degeneracy Poland serves as an island where there's still faith
>>80663348
It is a very implicit text, ppl generally speak of a passive complicity between the church and the 3rd reich, in France at least.
Pie XII showed compassion for the attacked peoples of Europe without clearly stating Hitler as responsible, even when deeply catholics countries were attacked, poland or cz. Mit Brennender is also marked by the good ol' catholic antisemitism opposed to Hitler's new one.
>>80664607
I see. So you probably don't even believe in the Torah or the Book of Daniel or Isaiah then?
>>80664580
+Hebrews 10 – one sacrifice, rejection of perpetual sacrifice (refutes mass)
+Exodus 20:4 (10 commandments) – no statues, nor bow to them
+Isaiah 8:19 – no prayers to the dead;
-When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?
+Romans 3:21-31, Romans 4 – Justification by grace through faith
+Galatians (all) – justification through faith apart from works
+1st Timothy 3 – married pastors/priests, refutes forced celibacy
+1st Timothy 4:1-5 – refutes dietary laws (no meat, lent) as well as celibacy
+Acts 10:25-26 – Peters tells Cornelius not to bow to him
-When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter raised him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am just a man.”
+Luke 11:27-28 – Jesus rebukes woman for revering Mary
-While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You and the breasts at which You nursed.” But He said, “On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it.”
+Luke 8:19-21 – “My mother and brothers are these who hear God's word and put it into practice.”
-Jesus had brothers
-Zero reverence for mother
+Matthew 12:46-50 – same as above
+John 2:1-4 – Mary asks for wine. “Woman, what have I to do with thee?”
>>80664422
>In several intimate communications our Lord has not stopped insisting on this request, promising lately, to shorten the days of tribulation which He has determined to punish the nations for their crimes, through war, famine and several persecutions of the Holy Church and Your Holiness, if you will consecrate the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, with a special mention for Russia, and order that all the Bishops of the world do the same in union with Your Holiness
>if you will consecrate the world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, with a special mention for Russia
>consecrate the world
>>80664695
St. Faustina and the divine mercy are heretical devotions.
John Paul 2 kissed a koran and invited pagans to pray in the temple of God.
>>80664695
I have nothing but admiration of St Faustina and Maximilian Kolbe, but you would do well to remove JPII from that list. He was a typical conciliar pope.
I also admire Poland, but I reject the arrogance of your previous post. As I said, only Portugal was stated as explicitly being protected by the Holy Mother. No other nation under the sun.
>>80659384
Now I'm a #cruzmissile
>>80664758
But if you're a Catholic you need to be one of those old-style antisemites. The difference is Catholicism opposes Jews on religious grounds while Hitler did so on racial grounds
>>80664842
>single passages with no context
Ebin example of the worst type of sola scriptura
>>80659384
If you give up so easily on God you are of the same ilk with who you just described, your faith was just a facade as it was never present, at the slighthest inconveninence you left and proclaimed that "god is dead"
>>80664842
>I see. So you probably don't even believe in the Torah or the Book of Daniel or Isaiah then?
I don't even know what you mean by that. Let me tell you what I believe.
Credo in unum Deum,
Patrem omnipoténtem,
Factórem cæli et terræ,
Visibílium ómnium et invisibílium.
Et in unum Dóminum Iesum Christum,
Fílium Dei Unigénitum,
Et ex Patre natum ante ómnia sǽcula.
Deum de Deo, lumen de lúmine, Deum verum de Deo vero,
Génitum, non factum, consubstantiálem Patri:
Per quem ómnia facta sunt.
Qui propter nos hómines et propter nostram salútem
Descéndit de cælis.
Et incarnátus est de Spíritu Sancto
Ex María Vírgine, et homo factus est.
Crucifíxus étiam pro nobis sub Póntio Piláto;
Passus, et sepúltus est,
Et resurréxit tértia die, secúndum Scriptúras,
Et ascéndit in cælum, sedet ad déxteram Patris.
Et íterum ventúrus est cum glória,
Iudicáre vivos et mórtuos,
Cuius regni non erit finis.
Et in Spíritum Sanctum, Dóminum et vivificántem:
Qui ex Patre Filióque procédit.
Qui cum Patre et Fílio simul adorátur et conglorificátur:
Qui locútus est per prophétas.
Et unam, sanctam, cathólicam et apostólicam Ecclésiam.
Confíteor unum baptísma in remissiónem peccatórum.
Et expécto resurrectiónem mortuórum,
Et vitam ventúri sǽculi. Amen.
>>80665014
Read the Bible once in your life Catholic. It might do you some good.
>>80659384
Roman Catholic here
I wish i could say you are wrong OP but you're absolutely right Pope Francis is complete degenerate trash and the hierarchy is completely corrupt.
>>80664242
According to http://pastebin.com/ZSTu1ZvK it was the Catholic Church who were the schismatics and its is they who are the Bride of Christ because they managed to keep his teachings true unlike other groups - including Catholics who have modified it over time starting with the filioque.
Its seems to be the reason why Protestantism never really took root or emerged in Orthodox countries like it did in Catholic ones.
>>80665203
>The BAAABLE SAYES
>>80665203
We hear scripture read to us every day at mass, and it is then explained to us by a priest who has dedicated his life to the understanding of scripture.
You read it once and think you're the pope.
>>80664598
>Mary is not the ark. The ark is gone and Jeremiah said it would not be missed. Jesus Christ rebuked Mary worship.
>implying Mary is the same old Ark
What part of "New Ark" don't you get?
>>80664864
He didn't break any continuity in the teaching of the Church and his ecumenism was a manifestation of the polish character, read up on Paweł Włodkowic, a Middle Ages scholar
It's better to act like JP2 than Richelieu, Inquisition or other "christian " deviations. The polish Church has proven to be the strongest. Perhaps also because of its respect for debate and non-aggressive character. All others failed
>>80665533
>Inquisition
The Inquisition did literally nothing wrong.
>>80664948
You know that Poland appears in the diary of Faustina? And it doesn't look like Portugal is up to any good
>>80664848
Our Lady's request was not that the pope "consecrate the world with a special mention given to Russia" (which is false because no mention of Russia whatever was made). It was that the Holy Father in union with all the bishops consecrate Russia, specifically, to her Immaculate Heart. Period. Not only did Sr Lucia, the chief authority on Fatima, being the then-only surviving witness to the revelations, reject this (which Bertone then lied through his teeth about), but so too do virtually all scholars on Fatima: Fr Gruner, [the now disgraced] Fr Kramer, Antonio Socci, etc.
It never happened. And the chief proof of this is that Russia has not been converted.
>>80665630
It did. The only non barbaric Church is the polish one and this is why it prevails over others. Countries like France, Spain, Germany have given the Church a bad name
>>80665458
What part of the fact Mary is dead, in heaven and her part as a living vessel to give birth to Jesus Christ is over?
>>80665388
Saying you are correct because tradition ripens over age is the same as the oral law that Jesus Christ rebuked and the Talmud or the Hadith for Muslims. God has never operated on the level of man. Every piece of scripture has his mark on it. If its scripture and should believed we should find his mark.
>>80665896
>rooting out heresy
>wrong
No wonder JP2 came from Poland. I always had respect for Poland but it seems you're a bunch of ecumenical cucklords.
>>80666050
Thinking that you can read the bible and find the true meaning is contradicted by the 25000 odd protestcuck denominations.
>>80665388
i say God has much greater interest in those who seek him on their own without massive displays of pomp and authority engulfing them and subconsciously swaying their reasons for adherence
>>80666184
You can find the same sort of divisions in the Orthodox and the Catholic churches. We just keep tract of ours.
>>80666232
>25,000 odd protestant denominations
>we have it right, goy
>don't be up on such a high horse about things
Oy vey.
>>80666335
>Catholic Church consists of different churchs in communion under Rome
>oy, our churches are the same even though most think the others are wrong and we're not really in communion with each other
Oy gevalt.
>>80665285
The pastebin is nonsense, frankly. We can start with the early sources, like St Optatus, one of the greatest opponents of Donatism and whose argument against that heresy can be applied word-for-word to the Orthodox Church; that is, that in order to recognise whom is in schism from whom, one must use the Cathedri Petri as the point of reference. We can discuss how the East has since changed its position on the Immaculate Conception, now holding one which is at complete odds not only with Catholic doctrine but also with the words of Patriarch Scholarios, Emperor Manuel II Paleologus, Patriarch Loukaris - all of whom maintained the Catholic position. We can talk about Petrine Primacy and Papal Supremacy, and the recognition of these things by the Church Fathers from the earliest days of the Church onwards.
This isn't the time for this, though. I'm about to hit the hay.
>>80665680
I'm not sure what you mean by "And it doesn't look like Portugal is up to any good." Presumably you're talking about Portugal as a state. That's not what Our Lady was referring to.
>>80666490
Now this is just trolling at this point.
>>80666053
Rooting out heresy by mass murder is wrong. The polish Church acknowledges that and this is why it's still respected and will serve as an example for the rest, maybe even of the world
>>80666611
It's true even if I am being a memester about it.
>>80666616
>defending the faith by any means possible
>wrong
I bet you think the crusades were wrong, too.
Hate is a powerful word :-(
>>80666050
>What part of the fact Mary is dead
She's not dead. She didn't die. She was like Elijah in a way.
>her part as a living vessel to give birth to Jesus Christ is over
She was the Ark in pregnancy and retained the title after childbirth. So because Jesus died 2000 years ago and rose again means calling him "the final sacrifice" is wrong because the sacrifice is over?
>>80666819
>She was like Elijah in a way.
Ooookaaay then. Do you know who Elijah was? Do you know who Enoch was? God made very sure we knew they were taken up. Nowhere does it say that Mary was taken up.
>>80666581
Do you have any sources or videos that argue against Orthodoxy?
>>80665704
So what about Pope Paul's concecrations?
>>80667133
Elijah was a prophet who went up to heaven in a flaming chariot, body and all.
Enoch is gnostic heresy.
>>80666375
God is organic and works with every individual
The quest for a perfectly dogmatic religious system for all mankind is impossible and actually makes me laugh that people are so blind to their own deficiencies that they think such a thing could be attained
>>80667133
>Nowhere does it say that Mary was taken up
Sola Scriptura is heresy too.
>>80667445
>Christ came to set up a church for everyone
>you idiot, there's no such thing as a church for everyone
Very cool blog post OP
But you didn't expect me to get these numbers now did you
>>80667441
Enoch if you have ever read Genesis is a real person. I didn't mean the heresy.
He was taken up. Just like Elijah was. Moses body was fought over and the Angel took it. So he is quite possibly the same. The only time we see them again is in the Gospels.
Would you argue that because we have no evidence of John the Apostles death he was taken up? This is the line of argument you're making.
If this was the case why are we seeing Mary instead of Moses, Elijah and Enoch or Jesus Christ himself?
>>80667752
7752 is the last 4 digits of my social security number. Epic get.
>>80667569
u must mistake the church for something that has walls and roofs
>>80668039
>let them be one as I and my father are one
>something that has walls and roofs
Jesus Christ, you claim sola scriptura and don't even know scriptura.
>>80668039
You honestly think Catholics do that?
Lay off the Chick Tracts.
>>80659384
I gave up on the church when they kept shilling for all the spics destroying my hometown. Nowadays seems like half the church are spics. Most of the catholic girls i knew fucked spics. Disgusting religion.
Well goodnight. I hope all your faith in Jesus Christ stays strong regardless of our disagreements.
>>80668306
Find an SSPX parish.
>>80668241
well i was kinda going out on a limb. desu i had no idea what the post i was replying to meant
>>80663230
>Russia
>m-muh savior of the white race
>>80668499
...you didn't know what I meant by "Jesus came to establish one church for all mankind?"
>>80665704
>Not only did Sr Lucia, the chief authority on Fatima, being the then-only surviving witness to the revelations, reject this
Pics or it didn't happen. Because I never heard this. Or are you a sedevacanist schismatic?
>actively shit up your own community
>somehow catholics fault
Niggers of Christianity
>>80669399
The Protestants?
>>80659786
What a nice happy couple. Thank you for sharing your pictures Mr. England.
>>80661015
Reminder
1. Your Denomination
2. Should genesis be taken literally?
>>80663712
>The infiltration of the Church goes back to the 19th century,
Always someone elses fault, huh?
>>80675265
>Should genesis be taken literally?
Not at all.
Fuck Vatican II and fuck this fake pope. Check out this degeneracy.
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/genital-conference-vatican.htm
>>80675265
IDGAF if you're religious or not, if you take "God created the world with all the animals you know about including people, then tempted them with fruit" seriously, you need to seek professional help.
It's bronze age mythology. People were not capable of understanding the world as it is back then, so they made up stories to fill the gaps. God saw no need to correct that, because understanding the implementation details of the universe is not necessary for a good life.
We know how life on Earth came to be. We know the origins of humanity. We know the origins of Earth, the Sun, and the cosmos as the see them. We understand the mechanics of the world much better than our ancestors did, and if you are a man of faith, none of that interferes with God's will!
People who insist that ancient peoples' ignorant stories are absolute truth are just stupid.
