What is the difference between national socialism and regular socialism?
National socialsm is socialism+nationalism. Don't be such a retard op
>>80658032
National socialism means you're a fat neckbeard loser autist, socialism means you're a pussy ass nigger bitch homo.
>>80658032
They literally only included 'socialism' in the party name to pander to the working class. Their policies and rule were the exact opposite of socialism.
Regular socialists are even more deluded in that they think they can have relatively open borders and not destroy the system. National socialists at least understand that letting hundreds of thousands of low IQ North Africans pour in is going to des to the system.
nice ass babe
Social benefits should be only for citizens in the country for 20 years.
Op, I'm the only one who knows what he's talking about so far.
National Socialism IS Nazism. It is not a genre of socialism, it is specifically nazism.
Many socialist governments have had strict immigration policies and nationalistic tendencies. South America used to be full of them.
Socialism is a broad range of government types.
>>80658032
Socialism = The good guys steal your stuff
National socialism = The bad guys steal your stuff
>>80658571
Correct
>>80658927
>National Socialism IS Nazism
"National Socialism is National Socialism" What an insightful comment.
Kill yourself you retard. Yes, National Socialism aka Nazism is for far left commie faggots. Adding nationalism into the mix doesn't make socialism any less faggoty.
>>80658032
Nat soc says that each kind of people, with their unique alleles, culture and heritage will need a unique type of socialism, hence the national
>>80658032
National socialism as practiced by the German Nazi party was a consolidation of all authority while rejecting kike SJW crap. The health of the state and the people is key.
Regular socialism is kike nonsense about everyone being "equal" and everything being "fair" while the end result is everybody becomes equally poor and miserable while the ruling class live like monarchs.
>>80658032
Socialism is international and anti-national (this is why union halls are called "local").
>>80659632
Lol get to your summer reading bud, it might calm you down.
It's a very common misconception here that National socialism is a type of socialism and is not specifically the Nazi ideology.
>>80659836
False, socialism is not exclusively cosmopolitan and anti-nationalist.
>>80659835
>nazis weren't SJWs guys!
kek, you guys are SJW faggots and you don't even know it.
>>80659850
"Nazi" is in origin a slur and not something a National Socialist would describe themselves as. National Socialism is a specific ideology while "Socialism" is an umbrella phrase that existed long before Marx and Marxist Socialism (i.e. communism).
>>80658289
National socialism is neither nationalism nor socialism
It's a bastardization of fascism accompanied with genocide of "inferior races"
Even Mussolini thought hitler was full of shit.
NationalSocialism is a meme, it's a disaster that has only been tried once and it failed.
Socialism is about as bad.
>>80659850
>It's a very common misconception here that National socialism is a type of socialism
It's not a misconception. It's an obvious fact to anyone who knows what socialism is.
>not specifically the Nazi ideology
Nazi just means National Socialist. The fact that you think saying "National Socialism refers specifically to the Nazi ideology" is in any way insightful proves that you're a complete retard.
>>80660344
Correct.
>>80658590
>>80658927
This is a funny meme, but it is just that, a meme. I'm tired of socialists, commies and other leftists claiming that national socialism isn't "real socialism", or that they just used the name. Whether earlier socialist movements agreed or not with the Nazi party in Germany doesn't change the fact that their politics were socialist. Claiming that they just used the name socialism to attract worker votes is just regular commie tactics to divert attention from the fact that socialism and nazism are virtually the same fascist ideology, except that nazism is more economically realistic in terms of welfare combined with immigration (which wasn't really the same issue in the 1930s).
>>80658571
Correct
>>80660381
Nope, see the mistake here all the time. If you know that, then good for you but I wasn't talking to you and don't care what you think about it.
>>80658032
Socialism can ONLY work if it's Nationalistic.
Socialism:
>welfare state supports everyone who "needs" it
>no way to enforce participation other than gulags
>can't call any person/sub-group lazy without being racist, sexist, hater, etc.
Breeds: parasites, censorship
Kills: entrepreneurs, successful people
__Why work hard if the fruits of labor are stolen by some lazy people?
National Socialism:
>OUR people must help each other
>achieved through our own effort, own determination
>Members of the same in-group will shun anyone stealing from the tribe
Breeds: brotherhood, unity, strength
Kills: external leeches, internal weakness
__What do my people need, and how can I best provide it?
>Feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ
>>80660598
You're misinterpreting what I said. National socialism is a type of socialism, but it's the Nazi brand of socialism. The term doesn't apply to socialism with nationalistic tendencies, it's specifically the nazis. Nationalist socialism is just called socialism.
>>80658032
sauce?
>>80660598
I agree with this. Socialism is the most retarded economic system known to man, but it's going to work better in a homogeneous society with strict limits on immigration than in a "multicultural" society, as your own country is discovering.
Anyone who advocates National Socialism is a moron, but they're slightly less retarded than your run-of-the-mill socialist.
>>80660598
>Nazi Germany had private ownership of the means of production
>Nazi Germany had a class divide
Literally the opposite of the definition of socialism
>>80660675
>Nope, see the mistake here all the time
You see it all the time because it's correct. You're the one who is mistaken, deeply so.
>>80658032
Socialism is what spock of the star trek enteprise said: "live long and prosper" or "the needs of many outweighs the needs of the few or the one".
National socialism on the other hand is a perversion in the human history, its by no way even close to socialism, its a belief where one kind of human people are worth more than the rest. The rest should be killed off or if they have any value they should be used as slaves until death or they could be experimented upon with every perverted experiment you could think of like blasting a human apart with water pressure or just regular torture and kill them. National socialism is hell on earth and should not be called socialism at all.
Pure socialism is a benign belief and theory where with the help of the state we could reach our potential where justice, compassion and equality are the goals. But still if you are very rich it is ok and if you are very poor the state and the society will try to get you back on your feet again. And free healthcare for every citizen.
I think many people have different ideas of socialism so it would be fun to read about it in this thread.
>>80660381
>all socialism is communism
Nope. Christian monks in the early Middle Ages lived in a "Socialist" system, that didn't make them Marxist. Marxism is a very specific brand of socialism that advocates for far more than seizing the means of production, such as eliminating nationalism and religion. If you read "Das Kapital" and Mein Kampf, the difference between National Socialism and Marxism is apparent.
>>80660842
>National socialism is a type of socialism, but it's the Nazi brand of socialism
Do you seriously not understand how retarded these statements make you sound? Get off the internet and kill yourself, you are too stupid to live.
>>80660353
> disaster
> it failed
Which explains why Germany went from literal third-world tier to a power capable of contending with the US in a little under a decade? Give me a fucking break. It worked fine, the only reason it failed in the end is due to conquest.
>>80661025
>>80661122
You're just flat out wrong. Don't know what to tell you. National Socialism is specifically the Nazi party's brand of authoritarian german nationalist socialism. Maybe you should crack open a book sometime kid.
>>80661116
I'm not saying they're identical, but you have to be a complete retard to seriously advocate for either one.
>>80661291
>You're just flat out wrong
Not an argument.
>National Socialism is specifically the Nazi party's brand of authoritarian german nationalist socialism
It's not specifically german.
>Maybe you should crack open a book sometime kid
Pretty funny comment coming from someone who is clearly high school age or younger. Respect your elders and kill yourself.
>>80660842
I didn't misinterpret shit. I know exactly what you're getting at. What I'm saying is that this is a meme that needs to die. Making a distinction between nationalistic socialism and national socialism is a ridiculous meme that has been created and perpetrated by marxists to be able to distance themselves from the atrocities of the war while retaining their freedom of being able to impose any political action. If it's national socialism, call it national socialism. It doesn't matter if it's the Germans or the Hispanics. It doesn't matter if they're friends with China or enemies of Russia. It doesn't matter if they want to kill the Jews, the Christians or the aristocrats. It's the same ideology. Let's stop pretending it isn't.
>>80660953
You think soviet russia didn't have classes? Go fuck yourself.
>regular socialism
The state will care for you. Your concept of people is opression of everyone else, nazi pig
>national socialism
The state will care for you if you do your part. Also, your people are the best and need to be cared for.
So many people in this thread are falling for the "le socialism is le big gubberment" meme
Allow me to elaborate for a lot of you fucking idiots who don't understand the defining features of National Socialism.
In a National Socialist society, all citizens are equal. To be a citizen of the state, you must be a member of the race OF that state. For example, to be a citizen in Germany, you must be ethnically German. Nobody else can be considered a citizen. No Turk immigrants, no refugees, nobody. Only Germans. Nobody else obtains the rights and privileges of the state, since they aren't citizens. All Germans would therefore be equal, there is no competition with third-worlders.
Housing is provided to all Germans. Again, unlike the situation in the US where illegal Mexicans are being provided with free housing despite the fact that there are veterans living homeless, citizens come first in a NS society. If a non-citizen owns a house, he can be deported in order to make room for a family of citizens.
Non-citizens cannot own businesses, nor can they own any forms of media. All forms of media are monitored by the government for subversive content that would otherwise damage the fabric of a nationalist society. Pornography would be banned, for instance.
That's just SOME of the basics. Go ahead and read up on the platform of the National Socialist party, you'll learn something.
>>80661542
Pointing out that someone is objectively wrong isn't an argument? Interesting. You seem very worked up about something inconsequential. Therapy can help you buddy.
>>80661612
You can't just redefine concepts because it offends your feelings. Nationalistic socialism in other cases is just referred to as socialism.
>>80661793
Did I say Soviet Russia didn't have classes?
>>80661805
Thanks, you summed that up in the most simple way possible.
>>80658032
What do you think her asshole smells like? Burritos and tacos? Hngggggggg. Would you date that?
>>80661975
you didn't point anything out, you just keep repeating the same meaningless statements over and over. you haven't said anything even remotely insightful in this entire thread.
Swedebro isn't redefining anything, he's stating indisputable facts. It's painfully clear that you are entirely out of your element and dont' know what the fuck you are talking about.
>>80661974
Yes, so as has already been stated by me and others, National Socialism is simply ethnically nationalist gommunism, which means it's an ideology for faggots. Thanks for clarifying.
I'd smash that ass so hard, the United Nations would sanction me for launching an Intercontinental Sperm Missile
>>80661086
Hold on there buddy. You mean that scene where Kirk ordered Spock to sacrifice himself for the crew of the enterprise? Oh, that's right, that's not what happened. Yet that's exactly how socialism works. Even Marxist philosophers know that the means of production must be seized by force.
>>80662304
If it was a meaningless statement, you probably wouldn't be so unreasonably pissed that I'm correcting it. I honestly suggest you seek therapy, you seem very angry about something inconsequential. I'm done trying to spoonfeed the baby having a tember tantrum. Enjoy being wrong.
>>80661347
Except the Third Reich was the only implementation of Non-Marxist Socialism into a real-world government, all others were or were directly inspired by the Communist manifesto. In the brief period it existed, Hitler's Germany had solved the rapid inflation of the Weimar Republic, and solved many more of the economic issues created by their loss in WWI.
>>80661975
>You can't just redefine concepts because it offends your feelings. Nationalistic socialism in other cases is just referred to as socialism.
Yet that's exactly what you've done. That's why you claim that national socialism isn't socialism in the first place. You redefined it from its original meaning "national socialism" into "national [not at all socialism]". We're not in some introductory marxism class at a community college here. We're on 4chan. We don't need to maintain the pretense that what some socialist academics have managed to reach some mainstream consensus about to defend their own beliefs is the word of god. We can call things what they are without caring if we offend said socialist (national and otherwise) academics.
>>80660353
It was never about the genocide of inferior races you mongrel.
It was about creating a homogenous state and ensuring your own races survival.
National Socialists wanted every ethnic group to have their own home with their own people.
One sounds nicer
>>80662842
National Socialism is a form of socialism. Take a deep breath and read my posts again.
>>80660913
National Socialists were Capitalists. Socialism to them was the love of your own race and your own culture, Their socialism was social, not economic.
>>80662863
Hitler had plans to kill tons of slavs in order to populate western Russia to Germany with only Germanic peoples. You guys can make arguments for National socialism, but don't pretend genocide wasn't part of his their plan.
>>80663046
Nationalized industry is not seen as capitalist. In fact it's one of the basic tenets of state socialism.
>>80661793
Oh they had classes. They had the Jews at the top, then the Military, then everyone else.
>>80662922
>Take a deep breath and read my posts again.
>>80658927
>National Socialism IS Nazism. It is not a genre of socialism, it is specifically nazism.
>>80662863
No they didn't, Hitler thought slavs, gypsies, jews and niggers were inferior and actively tried to exterminate some of them.
The very concept of "lebensraum" is genocidal.
>>80661210
Hitler didn't know much about economics, he said that himself. Also, in 1939, Germany had huge debts. Economy would crumble unless something happened (and it did).
Nazi germany's entire economic plan was based around manufacturing weapons and preparing for war.
To give the nazis some credit, volkswagen and the Autobahn were their creations, but as I said earlier, their debts would be too much to handle.
>>80661210
Germany was already that way over a decade before, and at least then they didn't get slaughtered and raped by slavs. Don't pretend like recovering from the depression was some kind of miracle only declaring war on the whole world and killing kikes could accomplish.
>>80663245
As in it can't be applied in other circumstances of socialism. I clarified that it is a type of socialism, but it is only the Nazi brand. Any state besides them cannot be called National Socialists, because that's like calling states like North Korea DPRK instead of just a type of socialism. It's nonsense. I imagine that it takes serious cognitive weakness to be unable to understand these concepts I'm explaining to you.
>>80662361
Spock was never ordered to sacrifice himself, he sacrificed himself despite ordered not to.
No seizing of anything by force (unless spocks second law applies), its just trying to build a good and just society based on economical laws.
Communism is not socialism or capitalism, communism the the extreme of capitalism and capitalism is the extreme of communism, socialism hovewer is is in between.
We all know capitalism running amok will destroy itself thats why even the US has socialism laws regulating oligopols or monopols and we all know communism would lead to disaster and it has.
So in short socialism is capitalism under control and communism under restraint.
>>80662033
The nazis also wanted to reduce class inequality and nationalized certain industries. Your argument is basically "The nazis didn't execute these socialist plans quite to my satisfaction, therefore they are polar opposites". This is obviously flawed reasoning and you know it, since failed equality didn't prevent the ussr from being socialist. Or is your argument "no country has ever been socialist"? Then I think this discussion is over.
>>80663051
Prove that. Show me a document that says that was their plan.
>>80663608
>i was wrong at first but i'm right now
>>80663843
Generalplan Ost.
>>80663892
Never changed what I said, you are just misinterpreting what I've said. I assume it's because you're stupid.
>>80663630
>socialism is capitalism under control
Are you stupid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
>>80663990
so if nobody except Nazi Germany can be called National Socialist, what would you call the ideology of a political party in a non-German country that mirrors that of the German Nazi Party?
>>80664401
>what would you call the ideology of a political party in a non-German country that mirrors that of the German Nazi Party?
nazis
>>80663907
Oh yeah the "secret Nazi" document that came out after the war. Great. Very credible. Do you think so many Slavs would have fought for Germany if Hitler was planning on just killing them and taking their land?
>>80664401
A close example would be the Arab Nationalist Baathists. They're generally just called socialists. There were plenty of socialists with nationalist leanings in South America, they were referred to as socialists.
Glad you admit that you're wrong, maybe you're growing up.
>>80664536
It came out after the war because it was discovered by allies when looking through Nazi documents. I wasn't aware he had many slavs fight, but I assume it would be for manpower multipliers.
>>80664505
I wasn't asking you, I was asking the idiot who claims only Germans in the 1930s and 1940s can be National Socialists/Nazis because reasons.
>>80664536
>Do you think so many Slavs would have fought for Germany
>muh georgian legion and some russian/ukies """""volunteers""""""
They would be the first men to be fooled by a regime. Also check if they were used in the eastern front on the frontline.
Aslo it's totally comprehensible that illiterate peasants would have a knowledge of Hitler personal ideas and germany internal politics
>>80664772
>They're generally just called socialists
And what about the ones who specifically call themselves National Socialists? Are they wrong?
>Glad you admit that you're wrong, maybe you're growing up.
Top fucking kek, grow up kid. I'm asking you leading questions to expose your complete and utter retardation.
>>80663630
>Spock was never ordered to sacrifice himself, he sacrificed himself despite ordered not to.
Exactly. He took a personal decision to sacrifice himself for the greater good of those around him. And you are free to do the same by giving your money to the poor for example. Redistribution of wealth is taking someone else's money, that is sacrificing someone else for the (alleged) greater good. It makes no sense to use "Spock's law" in this context, since there were probably plenty of ensigns around who were less useful than Spock himself, yet Spock chose to sacrifice himself instead of them, despite sacrificing himself cost both himself and the ship more.
Without seizing the means of production by force, socialism is an interesting concept but a toothless ideology. This kind of socialism is how families have historically been organized, and how for example Kibbutzes generally work. However, when the community reaches a certain size, it becomes inefficient (just visit a coop store and you'll know what I mean), and the need to seize the means of production by force becomes an integral part of socialism.
>>80664829
For the same reason that DPRK only applies to the North Korean regime. I wasn't kidding about that reading thing, you should try it.
>>80665009
>And what about the ones who specifically call themselves National Socialists?
And who are they? You mean neo-nazis? Yeah they're neo-nazis because actual Nazis haven't existed since 1945.
>>80664772
>but I assume it would be for manpower multipliers.
Anti partisan duties mostly. Some of them might even seen combat after the allied invasion, but i even doubt that.
>>80664829
> I was asking the idiot who claims only Germans in the 1930s and 1940s can be National Socialists/Nazis because reasons.
He is right. Only those germans can be called nazis, because national socialism is just a bastardization of fascism with rabid antisemitism and racial superiority
>>80664536
Aside from the Croatians and Slovaks, there were hardly any slavs who fought for Germany. There were actually a TON of Russians and such who wanted to join the Wehrmacht but Hitler did not even consider it until 1944 when the war was getting very desperate. This was because slavs were considered SUBHUMAN, they did not try to hide this except in the case of Croatia and Slovak where they tried to pass them off as honorary germanics.
>>80658032
How the fuck would I know, Im just here for the memes
>>80665042
>For the same reason that DPRK only applies to the North Korean regime
How does that help explain how in your peabrain National Socialism can only specifically apply to a political party in 1930s and 1940s Germany?
Yes, the National Socialist German Workers' Party was specifically German. That doesn't imply that the National Socialist ideology is specifically German and can only refer to a specific party from a specific time period.
>>80661210
Wiemar Republic was not "third world" tier, it was becoming quite strong in the late twenties and could have recovered quite easily in the next decade.
Everyone in this thread is a fucking retard.
Pic related is "socialism" under National Socialism, AKA non marxian socialism.
Regular socialism is the abolition of private property and the ownership over the means of production by the working class.
>>80658032
>national socialism
Im going to give all of my kids an equal pay in allowance, and a equal amount of cookies, and an equal amount of toys, as long as they contribute to the family to the best of their abilities by doing their chores. But I as their father am the king of this house and they must also follow my orders y getting all A's and winning all their extra curricular activities and that black kid down the street isnt allowed here anymore
(average asian tiger mom family)
>socialism
Im going to give my kids and everyone in their class a cookie because they are all special and equal, even if some make better grades than others. Also, my kids only play sports where we dont keep score and everyone gets a trophy.
(average upper middle class white suburban family)
>>80665638
Sounds like Bernie Sanders.
>>80664347
I only read the first sentence of the wikipedia article, maybe what we in sweden defines as socialism is something totally different.
We think socialism is capitalism under control and communism under restraint. All people are free but when they start invading other peoples freedom they are controlled or restrained.
All men and women are equal and free, if you need help, education or healthcare the state will provide that, we want all citizens to live well and prosper and contribute what they can to society.
The sum of the citizens are the society and the society will only thrive if all citizens thrive. That means some are extremely rich but still they must contribute their part to the society and some are extremely poor and the society will try to ge them up on their feet and be productive again.
>>80665470
>That doesn't imply that the National Socialist ideology is specifically German
Holy fuck your stupid. What about the germanic racial superiority?
>>80665775
Meritocracy and Nationalism are largely absent under any policy of Bernie Sanders.
>>80665750
You forgot the part where you break into your neighbors' house and take all their money to give your kids an allowance, and even invite the black kid to join you.
>>80658032
National socialism is hierarchical whereas marxist socialism is about everyone being equal and on the same level.
Basically, think about it this way. National socialism works like a household, with the parents taking care of the children. Marxist socialism is there being no parents around, kids try to do everything themselves, and it all goes to shit.
>>80665799
Sweden is a social democratic welfare state.
Socialism only exists when private property is abolished and the workers own the means of production. Then and only then does socialism exist.
Socialism is not sharing, nor is it a welfare state or spooky 1984 government.
>>80665470
You are literally too stupid to continue arguing with. You refuse to admit that you are objectively wrong about the definition of the concepts you are using.
I am done with you and I recommend that you kill yourself tonight.
>>80665799
The word socialism as alot of bad rep and alot f attached meanings. After all the Cold war ended only 25 years ago, and it left a huge mark in the western world.
Marxist Socialism, the "original" socialism was the workers owning the means of production.
>The sum of the citizens are the society and the society will only thrive if all citizens thrive. That means some are extremely rich but still they must contribute their part to the society and some are extremely poor and the society will try to ge them up on their feet and be productive again.
This is welfare state. Not socialism.
>>80665875
>your stupid
k
>>80665875
>What about the germanic racial superiority?
That was specific to how the ideology was practiced in Hitler's Germany. It doesn't mean that their ideology of a ethno-nationalistic form of socialism can't be adopted by people in another part of the world without the Germanic elements and called by the same name of National Socialism.
>>80658571
This
>>80666015
>hereas marxist socialism is about everyone being equal and on the same level.
source?
no niggers on my board
>>80666129
>Can't answer simple questions or form an argument
>hurr durr you're stupid
>hurr durr you're wrong
Look in the mirror if you want to see who is stupid and wrong. Then kill yourself, faggot.
>>80665027
It's true socialism is a mild form of redistribution of wealth but not to the extent that wealth does not pay off.
Yes you pay a lot more tax if you are extremely wealthy but the society gave you all the opportunity to gain wealth, free education, free healthcare and you did it, do you not want to help the society back, help your younger brothers and sisters who need education and healthcare?
>>80666359
i remember you getting trashed in a lot of threads you made asking people to name a socialist country, but honestly you are one of the few on this board that actually knows and operates under the actual definition of marxist socialism.
what do you think of salazar portugalbro
>>80658032
Trump wins 2016 with Flynn running mate.
Kek witness me
>>80666654
One more try. Trump/Flynn
>>80658032
National socialism is basically closed borders. Our society will cover each other since our society produces ethical, hardworking human beings.
Regular socialism assumes that all humans are ethical and hard working which is why it doesn't work.
I honestly don't know or care.Any type of Socialism or leftist economic system has failed and will continue to do so.
>>80664347
you are right,it's retarded but I think what he was trying to get at was that the government sizes que means of manufacture.As a private conpany would. But we all know how that turns out...
>Venezuela
>>80666654
>>80666702
you are a failure
Trump will still win though
>>80666383
>That was specific to how the ideology was practiced in Hitler's Germany.
Hitler created the ideology.
> It doesn't mean that their ideology of a ethno-nationalistic form of socialism
But that is not all of the ideology. Germanic racial superiority, anti-semitist, eugenics, eternal warfare...
Find me another regime with this charatheristics
>>80666902
trump is a jew puppet
>>80666570
Nordic welfare state is still capitalism. Don't get fooled by american definitions of government programs == socialism
>>80666570
>i remember you getting trashed
By who? They all circlejerked amoung themselves. My trip didn't helped desu
>what do you think of salazar portugalbro
Well, he kept us out of ww2, wich was his greatest achievment. He kept the country backwards. Sent us into our longest war ( colonial war). Not very good desu.
>>80667058
And your people are brown as fuck.|
Would rather have Trump in charge of NATO than Shillary.
Under National Socialism, the socialism was subservient to the German Nationalism, ie the race.
>>80666570
Let's not pretend that society and the state are the same thing. These gifts you speak of are given to you mostly by society, not by the state. The state largely hampers the development of society, and steals both from you, and from other parts of society that would help you much more than the state, such as your parents. And paying taxes to the state is probably the worst imaginable way of spending your money to benefit society as a whole. The plenty that we experience in the western world today wasn't produced by the states. It was produced by a free market that permitted economic and technological progress.
>>80658032
>national socialism
that ass belongs to only one person
>regular socialism
that ass belongs to everybody
>>80658032
I think the better question is what's the difference between national socialism and "international socialism" aka communism
>>80666749
>Regular socialism assumes that all humans are ethical and hard working which is why it doesn't work.
Yep that's what we have seen in sweden, for every sort of welfare system there's a quadrillion ways to cheat it.
But are we to sacrifice the ones in real need because crooks abuse the systems, i would say lets hunt the crooks down.
Never quit, never surrender, endure and succeed.
>>80667898
The most accurate answer on this entire thread.
>>80668057
>"international socialism" aka communism
You are retarded
>muh jewish conspiracy
One of the biggest /pol/ doublethinks
>socialism/communism is against private property and exploration of workers
>jews are pushing for socialism worldwide
>>80658032
Sauce?
>>80667058
Don't think so.
>>80667629
I am an anarchist at heart but i know if we retreated to an anarchistic state the criminals will prey on the weak so a swedish socialist state is the next best thing.
The state has to protect the borders, have a standing army, an independent police force, an intelligence agency and have an international representation. Also the state has to equalize laws and enforce the constitution (we can not have a state which says murder or oppression is ok) so the state has to spend a lot of money of on that.
So paying taxes to the state keeps (or tries to keep) the citizens safe from any form of attacks, espionage or terrorist attacks.
This is what we have to do to keep our traditions, ways and beliefs Swedish, it costs a lot of money money but it is needed.
>>80666902
>>80666654
>>80666702
Actually "Clinton Death list" won it in another thread...
>>80666666
>>80658571
What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I have over 6,000,000 confirmed kills.
