Why do millennial's still live at home?
>>80608206
Do you want me to live on the street instead?
>>80608206
Why are you such a faggot?
>>80608206
Housing is fucking expensive in Bavaria to be honest
because boomers basically destroyed the economy
>>80608206
If boomers are so great, how come they're all old?
If you're still living at home last the age of 21 you're pathetic.
>>80608280
Edgy
>>80608335
If you're self sufficient that way, YES.
>>80608421
Edgy
>>80608440
Housing isn't too expensive. This is a meme.
>>80608466
>muh boomers
get the fuck off your ass and go do and honest day's hard work like the rest of us, maggot.
>>80608589
you pay 1000€ a month rent for a flat here. don't get me wrong i make enough cash to have a big Apartment, but most students can't afford this.
Because I'm working 50 hours a week for $11/hr and $20,000 in debt
>>80608589
Lmao housing is expensive anywhere but flyover land.
>>80608206
Because I'm young and have a job and pay rent to my parents.
>>80608206
>still live at home
Do you even understand what you saying? Everybody lives at home.
>>80608833
>Everybody lives at home.
Except US veterans.
Because it's fucking comfy m8
I have a great relationship with my parents and I won't bring a girl back home anyway
>>80608206
Because i can and it's nobodies business.
because i'm a fucking lazy faggot who was Unschooled
>>80608206
I'm an Ausfag
our families have a stronger clan mentality than american whites
>>80608206
I live with my parents now to save up money while I'm studying. I'll stay with them until I land a career and not a part-time job. When they're old and busted I'll return the favor and let them move in with me. The cycle will continue with each new generation and we'll all be happier for it.
>>80608206
Saving money so i can buy a house when my parents retire
>>80608206
What a strange question.
I live in a home.
Without home I would be homeless.
Is OP wondering why so few millenials are homeless...?
>>80609285
Will they kick you out when they retire?
>>80608206
>Why do millennial's still live at home?
Where would you rather live? In a crate?
>>80608206
Why do millennials not breed like rabbits?
Why do millennials not marry?
Why do millennials go to college?
Why do millennials have sex all the time?
Why do millennials not live like I do?
Why do millennials live as they wish?
Why do millennials defy my wishes?
>>80608206
because vidya
>>80608206
I don't feel the need to, it gives me more freedom with money, but I work though, give my parents money every week and buy the shopping now and again so we're all cool with it, helps that my family/friends are really close-knit, all for one and one for all.
In our Indian culture, we have to live with our parents, and take care of them when they get older.
>>80608206
Because the useless and unskilled are not employable
>falling for the rental/mortgage jew
top wew
>>80608206
Isn't home the place you live? Wouldn't any place you start to living in become your home? How could millennials live anywhere but home?
>>80608589
>Housing isn't too expensive.
Maybe if you want to live in a tiny cramped apartment in a ghetto area with niggers all around you, then sure.
>>80609821
He's just pretending to be retarded.
>>80609606
>tfw you will never be indian and have a legitimate excuse for being a kissless handholdless virgin living at home with parents well into late 20s
>>80608206
What was it like to be kicked out of your home by 18 because no one loved you?
I bought my parents home off them 2 years ago, why would I leave?
>>80608206
So they can spend their money on computers, video games and toys.
because i live in a state at the 90th percentile of cost of living and make 20% over the poverty line
>why do you want to save money
no idea OP
>>80608206
>>80608206
I'm a millennial and I moved out the first chance I got. I don't like the idea of someone else providing for me.
after moving out it doesn't seem worth it. probably going to move back home.
>>80608752
I would kill to be making $11/hr
>>80608206
Because "work hard in school for a college degree so you can get a good job" is a meme now.
Affirmative Action and Illegal Immigration take entry level jobs away from average Millennials, and Dem Trading Regulations export jobs to China and India.
I have two part-time jobs, can't find a job that is full-time and still make below the poverty line.
>moving out of the house that your parents worked on and your grandparents before them
>not being a helping hand
>not taking care of parents after they grow old
I bet you live in an apartment, you nincompoop.
>>80608206
Only way you can gets gibs being white
>>80608206
1. Standard of living. It's more expensive to move out because the world now runs on cell phone plans and excess insurance, and yes you need those things to have a career. Also inflation and every little thing is more expensive.
2. Standard of the working class man has skyrocketed. It's not the 80s anymore, you can't just get fired from a job and find a better paying one on your way home accidentally, and all with your high school diploma. You need a 4 year degree or you're a joke today. Also college is more expensive than ever (see 1.) and curriculums are more scrutinizing with less leniency in GPAs (with regards to maintining studentship) and more diversity in the actual studies.
3. Go fuck yourself you over privileged old fuck the world isn't set to easy mode anymore and it's your fault
>>80608206
>Breaking yourself financially in the long term for muh independence
No thanks senpai.
Because the house is large enough and because the parents are very happy to have me (I pay my share of the expenses). My mother always appreciates help in the kitchen while my father appreciates a helping hand around the house and in the garage.
Living in the countryside is nice. The only real drawback is the commute to work, but if you avoid the rush hour, then commuting to work on nice twisty roads with a motorcycle is a good way to start the working day.
I couldn't imagine living in the city in a small box of an apartment, surrounded by loud neighbours or streets. And pay absurd rent.
>>80611250
How do you commute in winter?
>>80611250
goddamn Slovenia the more I hear about your country the better it sounds
You guys need german teachers over there?
>>80608206
Because boomers convinced them college was the only way. Now you have an entire generation of half-wits with crippling student loans and useless degrees.
Coupled with rising cost of living and lack of desirable jobs, you have the recipe for live in adult children.
>>80608206
Because it's the best option, and because my family loves me.
Housing prices are ridiculous. Even without bullshit like cable, and even eating a diet primarily consisting of bulk dry rice and beans, you're going to wind up blowing an obscene amount of money on rent and utilities. And for what? To live in a roach-infested crackhouse with five roommates you hate and only cohabitate with in order to split the rent and utilities? Fuck that shit. My other option to be "self-sufficient" would be to live out of my fucking car and get a 24-hour gym membership to shower, and I wouldn't feel safe being homeless like that.
There's nothing wrong with families living together. I don't understand why, at 18, people are thrown out onto the fucking street and expected to rise up from nothing. Kinda makes it hard for families to improve their stations in life over the course of generations.
This way I'll be able to actually make some decent net income and pitch in as the people who raised me age. This way, maybe we'll actually be able to pay off the fucking house, or failing that, maybe my kids will. And when my dad gets old, he'll be welcome to stay with me and help with my kids instead of going off to a fucking retirement home.
Parents shouldn't toss their kids onto the street when they turn 18, and people shouldn't send their parents off to "homes" when they get old. I swear, both are symptomatic of the destruction of the family, and it's bad for us.
>>80611535
>You guys need german teachers over there?
I think Germany needs them more.
>>80608206
any place that has good work has absurdly high rent
>>80611663
don't joke with me. I might one day make your daughters read GREAT GERMAN LITERATURE
ITT retards who took the "a degree will get you a job" meme
Can't afford anything human sized without roommates. Would rather have my best friend as a roommate.
>>80608206
But I'm moving out next month with a job right out of college.
To an upscale white neighborhood.
>>80608206
I don't. I live in a wonderful place where rent is 400/month. All wood floors, central heat and air, attached garage, storage shed in the back yard. Fridge, stove, and dishwasher included. Hookups for a washer and dryer. And lawn care is included with rent (I rent a duplex).
Even on minimum wage, this place is affordable.
>>80610755
>You need a 4 year degree or you're a joke today.
Im a cnc machinist. Married with kids. own my house. wife doesnt work, she stays at home and raises the kids. I got a two year degree from a trade school but it isnt necessary in thus profession. Only people that cant do this is those who have fallen for the materialism meme.
>>80611905
>teaching is a shit job in my country so it must be shit everywhere
>>80611994
What state?
>>80611765
THIS as well. The jobs are in the metropolitan area, where rent is obscenely high. You have to move to a metropolitan area to get a job, and they'll even make living locally a requirement. To afford the rent of living in a metropolitan area, you need to have a job. To have a job, you need to live in a metropolitan area. And so on.
Again, FAMILY. There's no reason why siblings, cousins, aunts, and uncles shouldn't always have a guest bed or a couch available to their family members.
>>80611994
Where the fuck do you live?
>>80611634
Sounds like someone was raised right.
>There's nothing wrong with families living together.
Exactly this. I'm not sure when society turned, but several generations of people used to live in the same house.
That doesn't justify stereotypical neet behavior, but I fail to see what's wrong with children living with parents for a few years extra as long as they aren't jobless bums.
>>80612034
>I got a two year degree from a trade school but it isnt necessary in thus profession.
I find this highly questionable as every single cnc machining job requires le years of experience as a machinist or a degree in cnc operating
>>80612055
>>80612089
Kansas. Wellington, KS, specifically. About 40 minutes south of Wichita.
>>80609992
New York is that you senpai
>>80608280
because you're a manchild?
FPBP?
>>80611634
Welcome to the united states of ur a shithole third world country.
>>80612104
>I fail to see what's wrong with children living with parents for a few years extra as long as they aren't jobless bums.
This is the main problem. All the ones i know are out hunting pokemon right now instead of a job.
My parents bought a house right across the street from my university in a very nice neighborhood. I would be an idiot to move out, most likely further away. I still try to work and not freeload. I feel guilty about it honestly..
>>80608589
>1 (one) lazy troll reply so people can't post >1post by this ID in your shill thread
>parents will literally throw their kid out if he doesn't get a job
>this makes sense
Parenting literally became preprogrammed and not real at some point and it became up to the children to parent themselves. What a beautiful hell.
>>80612213
Nope. My shop as well as others have apprenticeship programs. Most people here have no machining experience prior to entering the program. There is a difference between an operator and a full machinist but due to lack of real machinists in the field, operators are having to do. You start out arpund 15$ at hire but are bumped up to over $22 in just two years. Plus somebover time you can do well. My shop is actually one of the lower paying shops too.
>>80608206
Houses are expensive
>>80608206
fuck off loser
>>80612632
How about someone who spent most of highschool in cnc classes but has dicked around post-hs doing construction? Would train?
>>80611634
This. The multigenerational household is the best method of wealth consolidation for the low and middle classes.
>>80612104
>Exactly this. I'm not sure when society turned, but several generations of people used to live in the same house.
Asian families do this traditionally. Hispanic families do this traditionally. You have an abuelita living in your house, she has decades of experience raising kids, she can cook, and she's got a reason to live beyond fucking bingo and keno night. That's the old guard.
Meanwhile, the parents don't have the gall to evict their own fucking kids, and the kids don't have to start from nothing as a result. They can pitch in with chores, babysitting, paying utilities, etc., and even if they don't, a shitty 30k a year job or a small investing venture becomes something they can build off of since 90% of their expenses aren't going down the fucking toilet.
And if the house originally belonged to the grandparents, even better. Now mom and dad (there had better be both) can actually finish paying off the house and the family OWNS something instead of making payements forver without ever accumulating assets. And again, failing that, they can at least put a dent in the mortgage and leave their kids to put in another dent or pay it off.
And the benefits of the family support system should extend beyond the immediate nuclear family, too. If there's one solid, loving nuclear family that actually gives a fuck about family, then when a cousin's parents die or fuck up royally, they can at least have some stability instead of getting a shitty start in life. Cousins should be like siblings. Hell, there's nothing wrong with an entire household of cousins being raised like siblings.
My grandparents did it right, and this is why my family is going to be fine no matter how shitty the economy gets. Because we won't be alone, and we'll actually own things.
>>80612913
Hell yes. Of course i cant speak for all shops but you should see some of the people we hire simply because there are so few looking to learn a trade. This is something Mike Rowe is spot on about. Granted, trades arent like they used to be but hell not much is. Ive been doing this around 10 years now and make over $25/hr. I dont drive fancy cars or live in a mansion but i do alright and have plenty of time to spend with my kids and teach them about the fucked up world.
>>80613431
I feel like I missed a chance to get in early here. When I graduated in 2011 there was hardly a single cnc job in 50 miles, now we've got atleast 6 manufacturing places with lots of cnc jobs.
I mean, if the industry is desperate as you seem to imply, I'd probably look alright compared to some of the "prospects".
>>80613265
This anon gets it, and he puts it way more succinctly than I did. "Wealth consolidation." I like that.
I will again state that I think the whole "MOVE OUT; GIT A JOB" thing is symptomatic of the same societal illness that yields high divorce rates and dysfunctional homes.
>>80608206
you posted this exact thread last night
>>80608206
Because I am going to self-immolate tomorrow anyway, so who cares where I live.
>>80613627
Give it a shot. Things may not be the same in your area but i do know that many places are findingbshortages when it comes to your classic trades. Hell most people on the street dont even know what a machinist is.
This idea that everyone needs a 4 year degree is bogus though. You can pass out all the free degrees you want but its pointless if there are no jobs for them.
I still live at home because it was that way I could just take over the rental contract to the apartment when my dad retired and move out of the country. That's a pretty sweet deal when your entire country is undergoing a severe housing shortage that'll probably take many years to resolve.
I know people that have been in the queue for an apartment in my city for years and basically have no hope of finding anything even remotely as sweet as what I've got.
I moved back in with my parents because I finished my contact at work (no reason to stay in my overpriced apartment in the city anymore) and am about to start graduate school overseas, so they wanted to spend a couple months with me before I left. Does that count?
>>80613996
Unfortunately going through local CNC jobs once again all I see if le 3 years of experience as an operator required minimum, not a single offers apprenticeship or a single looking to train someone.
Pretty ridiculous considering not one of these jobs offers a new degree earner such a position. If I had a degree and no experience, I'd still have no fucking choices. I'm glad these faggots have no skilled workers.
>>80608206
Because housing is completely un-affordable. It is in Australia anyway..
daily reminder
>>80614132
Finished my contract*
>>80614318
>yes goyim! blow all your money on nights out!
>>80611406
Car or train, depending on snow.
>>80608206
Wherever I live is "home" dumbass.
>>80614318
>materialism
Fuck that shit. I can fit everything I own in a single backpack, and I don't have any "wants."
>>80614478
This. People underestimate what a massive waste of money going out to eat is. It's fucking obscene.
Hell, even from a purely materialistic viewpoint, it's retarded. The money could be better spent feeding yourself more food for cheaper and indulging some truly hedonistic urges for the price of a single meal at a restaurant.
Also
>"need" in quotes
No, you really don't fucking need them, you idiotic cunt. Don't blow money on an outfit you're only going to wear 5 times.
Easy
>get taught as a child you're special and you can do anything you want and have anything you want
>go through high school with good grades in sociology, philosophy, and entry level math
>proceed to go to university and take out hefty loans of 8k a month
>"once I have my master's degree in cultural sciences, companies will line up for me!"
>you graduate cum laud in cultural sciences
>you're now 22
>you have no survival skills
>you start to realize the world doesn't give a shit about your vast knowledge in 2nd century Chinese culture
>you are nowhere desirable to any respected employer, because you have no practical skills that can turn into a profit
>you run out of savings and are forced back to live with your parents while you serve pumpkin spiced lattes to angry customers with low blood sugar
>you, the delusional millennial, still believe that you are entitled to that high salary and fully paid company car
>>80613396
>>80612104
I like you guys, and wish my own family were like yours.
We had this thread yesterday. Millennials are too poor for home ownership.
>>80610591
>Affirmative Action and Illegal Immigration take entry level jobs
This. And businesses get tax incentives to hire minorities who they can keep in low paying positions, because tax payer money will cover their housing, food, and health care.
White millennials are fucked thoroughly. As is the whole nation, in the long run, as this is clearly not a viable long-term strategy.
The idea is to force whites to vote dem, too, eventually ushering in socialism.
>>80608206
Because the previous generations decided to make everything much harder for Millennials.
They couldn't have done much more to fuck us in the arse, aside from firing nukes.
>>80608206
Family is most important why should i distance myself from the only thing worthwhile
>>80610576
Getting 11$/hr is easy as shit.
My first job was making 13$/hour.
>>80614185
Put some apps in anyway. A lot of shops want experienced machinists for obvious reasons. But shops that have aprenticeship programs will usualy take good prospects if they find one. The economy is rough right now, regardless of what obama says, so stay vigilant. Try looking for a general labor job as well in a machine shop. A lot of times they will move someone up if they show competence. Best you can do is show a foreman you are a good worker, ie on time, willing to learn, not an idiot. It cost a company a lot of time and resources whenb hey hire a peace of shit. They like to promote from within since they know something about those workers. Dont give up though.
>>80612317
It makes my morning runs a bit more fun than usual.
>Live at home
>Not just for me but from what I've seen coming from other Anon, from all around the world, it's;
>Around 500$ a month with electricity, food, internet and mom wash your cloth
>vs over a thousand dollar a month and that's only the rent
Yeah I think I'll stay at Hotel Mama for a while.
>>80615268
I am now anon, I found a jewelry and a weapon part place so far that look pretty nice. Hoping to get a personal interview as opposed to correspondences, because that's how I know I'll convince someone I'm better than some shop monkey.
Thank you for atleast inspiring me anon
>2 posts by this ID
>>80614942
It can be. I was actually raised in a broken home, away from my grandparents. Actually, if anything, my siblings and I raised ourselves. I jumped on board with my grandparents and my larger family after being isolated from it by my broken nuclear one for like a decade. I intend to model my own life after what my grandparents did, because I've observed both ends of the spectrum, and I've seen that their way works.
You can be the first, anon. Build a nest egg. Begin paying off an actual house. Raise your kids right, and don't boot them out. Start something intergenerational.
All of society is going to have to do this without a reference in their own upbringing if western society is going to survive.
>>80608206
Why not? My family has a big house in a nice safe area
Because I can't afford to live on my own, pay for college, and attend college at the same time. Also, so I can help my mother with bills. Moving out before you graduate college is for morons who are so obsessed with being le ALLGROWNUP that they are willing to put themselves under massive amounts of debt. There is literally no harm in waiting to move out as long as you are in education and employment.
>>80615124
>implying a nuclear war wouldn't have done us good
Growing up in a booming post-war economy, a terrible war that would have weeded out the weaklings in our population, a generation that has actually experienced the horrors of war and doesn't fear imaginary boogeymen like "the wage gap" or "misogyny", a generation of subservient women that reject feminism and stay at home, etc etc.
Does this really sound worse to you?
>>80615996
>weeded out the weaklings
The weaklings would have stayed home during a war.
If anything, wars weaken the gene pool. Brave and hard working men go off to defend freedom, and the rejects stay behind on medical passes.
That would be my theory
>>80613904
How about instead you go on a really long walk
>>80616206
The genetically inferior are (theoretically) more likely to die from physical stress and radiation.
>>80608206
>Why do millennial's still live at home?
>American flag
Yep, it's always Americans who think this. Without fail.
>>80608477
WRECKED
>>80615516
>mfw parents were addicts
>taken in by grandmother
>she's an anxiety case, I am too
>can't do people
>mfw me ever having kids to start a good family
>>80608916
WRECKED
>>80616577
I think you are retarded. You think there is that much degree of variance on how much radiation strong vs weak people can withstand? And you think that the people who manage to withstand that amount of radiation will remain fertile and pass on their genes? Your other points are okay, but this is just tonteria.
>>80610576
what are you even doing, you can make 11 dollars an hour starting at fucking walmart
>>80617346
Excuse me? You think walmart is going to pay you more than minimum wage? Tell me more about my country, Czech-coon.
>>80617346
Not him but I make $11 as an EMT. I'm going to school right now though.
>>80617744
I'd make slightly less at Walmart...
>>80608280
What did he mean by this?
>>80617812
You will make 7.25, no more, unless you are in a managerial position.
Scandinavians leave home at a young age and in high rates. But the difference is America lacks jobs, available housing, healthcare and the American education system is sub-par. American cities are dangerous places and guns, criminals and drugs are very common. Kicking your children out of home in America is like sending them to Africa with nothing but the clothes on their back.
>have great job making $80k/year in heavy industry
>my own place, own a car, ton of money saved
>everyone in my family wants me to go to university (only one out of my siblings that would)
>they all say they'll give me some money for tuition
>leave job and head off to school
>nobody follows through on their promise
>spend all my saved money on school
>car gets brake problems, too expensive to repair so I sell it
>don't even get a degree because I didn't have enough saved for four fucking years of school
fucking fantastic, back to square one. But even better this time around, there's not even any jobs for me to get to start building back up.
There's my answer OP. I don't know about other millenial faggots, but that's my case.
>>80608206
because going into dept a second time (before school is payed off) is a brilliant idea. Goys need to give us dem moneys for dem programs
>>80608206
Because YOU ruined our prospects for the future
Because YOU sold our countries out for your own benefit
Because YOU degrade us, insult us, make us feel like shit and then expect us to look after YOU
We've had enough, we're not going to contribute to YOUR societies anymore when their against OUR interests, go fuck yourself you baby boomer CUNT
>>80609899
And arranged marriages too family
Never did I think I would envy Pajeet
>>80618702
preach
>>80617172
>tonteria
You have to go back.
>>80608466
they are literally the cause for our high immigration numbers.
>>80613396
My grandmother is a nasty old woman who lies in bed all day and smokes. If we took her in she would be just another burden
>>80618147
No, you'll make minimum wage relative to your state.
$9.60 here.
>>80608206
Housing is expensive as fuck.
>For thousands of years families shared the same home for generations, with the older children eventually taking over the household when the parents died.
>Suddenly this is a bad thing.
Fuck off.
>>80619043
What do you mean ami-- friend? I am Americano just like you?.. :^)
>>80608206
Because I'm in grad school.
>>80608206
Because societies naturally revert to that way. Throughout the vast majority of human history individuals lived with their families until they were married, which makes a hell of a lot more sense than buying a house or renting an apartment when your parents already own a house with room for you to live in.
The real reason this is looked down on is because the baby boomers were lucky enough to reach adulthood at a time when the economy was booming and the housing market was growing at an unsustainable rate meaning it wasn't hard to get a good paying job and a cheap house. So they look down on their children and grandchildren for not being as successful as them in a time where economic prosperity requires more economic investment and time for less success.
FFS the factory I worked at in college literally refuses to promote people to management positions unless they have a degree. You want to be a factory floor manager and have worked at the factory for 20 years, know every job in the section of the factory like the back of your hand? Well apparently you would make a shittier floor manager than a 25 year old who has worked at the factory part time for 2 years while getting his business degree.
Someone's gotta do the laundry.
cuz home is nostalgic!
>>80619249
You're not just like me, because I don't steal jobs or accept welfare.
>>80619143
Okay fair enough, point still stands, you can't make $11/hr starting at Walmart.
>>80618702
>>80619405
>steal jobs
>and accept welfare
Are you retarded? You can't even keep your narrative straight for one single post.
>>80608206
You understand that unless a country has firm housing markets that can accommodate the dream of someone renting by twenty and owning by thirty, then it's not ideal.
Most know that this shits nebulous and always changing. Whether someone lives at home or not isn't so much the issue you're getting at but the attitude adjustment required to live on your own that a loooot of fucking youngs just don't ever get or learn.
Adjusting to a better work ethic and making your independence work is what matters.
If you're at home and you're not using the hospitality of your folks to the fullest and pooling it cash, then you're doing it wrong.
>>80612441
This. Seriously, I can't tell if this is roleplaying or if OP is really such a low energy faggot.
I bought my house when I was 21 for 60k , set it up as a rental to write off the 15k it cost to fix it up. Ended Fucking myself because I can't homestead so now I'm paying taxes on what it's worth which is 160k
>>80608206
can't afford it, rich boy
>>80618702
BWAHAHAHAA mommy issues are fun!
>>80619554
>Mexican't speak English or understand jokes
wew lad
>>80619405
>>80619554
Also
>all spanish speakers are hispanic
>all hispanics are immigrants
>all immigrants are illegal
wew lad
10-20 year waiting lists
>>80619609
DUDE JUST PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS LMAO
>>80619981
I didn't """understand""" your joke because it wasn't funny. There was nothing to understand.
>>80618388
>lazy hobos should be given homes for free while other people work for years to be able to afford one
>>80620038
>being this mad because you don't belong in the greatest country on Erff
>>80608206
Because the average home value in my neighborhood is $1.4 million dollars and I only make $140,000 per year.
>>80621637
>I only make $140,000 per year.
Poor you
Its normal in my culture.
Sometimes I do wish I had my own place though. especially when it comes to getting women.
>>80622261
I can't buy an actual house on that kind of money. How fucked must the rest of you little cucks be?
>>80614318
>written by attractive blonde woman who can easily find some wealthy betabuck to settle with
If you are 15 still living at home you are literal human scum.
>>80611994
yeah apparently wichita is the cheapest city to live in the US. makes sense that rent is cheaper around that area
They're lucky, when I was 19 my dad told me I had to fuck off so I ended up working, living with him only for a few months and then I took off to the Navy. No time to sit and wait, he told me I'm a man and need to leave, it was that simple. I understand living with your parents for a short period around that age or below, but once you hit 20 if you don't have a place of your own you're a fucking loser, I'm sorry. Most men in the past had houses and families by the time they were in their early-mid 20's.
>>80611634
>There's nothing wrong with families living together. I don't understand why, at 18, people are thrown out onto the fucking street and expected to rise up from nothing. Kinda makes it hard for families to improve their stations in life over the course of generations
Exactly this. The whole point is to build upon the success of past generations, not start over again from nothing each new one. I don't know how that idiotic meme ever got started. All that matters is long term success. Purposely doing everything the hard way is not productive in the least.
>>80615485
best of luck to you both
>>80624075
>falling for the jew meme because your parents didn't love you
I feel bad for you
>>80608206
Because it's smarter. Think about it...
>No rent payment
>No need to pay for food
You can easily saved 20k/yr by living at home. Only an idiot wouldn't do this.
>>80624075
If this were the past, most of the guys in this thread would own homes working their factory jobs. This isn't the past anymore, get with the times.
>>80608280
>Hofeng air gun
>air gun
>>80624827
>The Jew meme
What are you on about? Independence and self-sufficiency is a Jewish meme? That's news to me. Also my dad wasn't the nicest guy but he taught me to think critically and work hard, I'm doing alright because of him. He's not some faggy babysitter of mine, if your dad was your caretaker he was soft, he has failed as a man and you may as well.
>>80624916
Times or no there is nothing wrong with a little drive and momentum, I'm not gonna sit on my ass and whine about things. I don't feel bad for losers, they bring it on themselves, get a job or rob a bank if you have to but don't whine about having no money and making excuses about living with your parents.
>>80610699
>tfw you'll never have a family or even know someone who has a family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi1cny6sAHI
>tfw finally got my first apartment at 28
I-I'm making it /pol/
Whats wrong with it?
In Germany we got this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganerbenburg
>>80608206
home city
> no jobs with my degree
> only low paying factory jobs
> rent is cheap though... but.
> low wage cannot buy a house or car
> since pay is low, I would have to rent an apartment until I die or I get sick and get thrown onto the street
capital
> jobs, jobs everywhere, they pay good
> horrible apartment prices, horrible fucking rents
> most of the times you have to commute from a nearby city, village
> it would still eat up 80% of that huge paycheck to just rent a small apartment
> same story basically
To top this shit, I will have no pension either.
Even the current generation that's about 30-40 year old will not have one.
>>80618147
My girlfriends little sister makes 9 something in the clothing department
>>80612034
>wife stays at home and fucks jamal
>>80608466
I'm 27 (still technically a millennial) I have a brand new 4bdr house, new 30k car, and a German Shepard. You have to leave you're comfort zone and work hard.
>>80608206
I'm in my early 20's and most of my friends seem to be making $15-$18hr including myself. I make roughly $680 a week times 4 equals $2720 a month
>33% ($897) goes to taxes
>$65 month for car insurance
>$250 month for health insurance
>$500 month for rent
>$120 a month for groceries
>$100 a month for gas
>$100 a month for car repairs/ house hold maintenance
Grand total of $2030 dollars in expense leaving $690 a month to spare. Without taking raises in account, it would take 173 months; or 14.3 years to save enough money to purchase an average sized home in a suburban neighborhood. Or, you could stay at home, cut your rent in half (or totally if your parents are nice) reduce your grocery bill as well as your maintenance bill
>>80609138
HA!
>>80627441
>Implying you didn't get lucky.
Yeah, you might be a good hard worker.
You still got lucky.
>>80625325
> shaming young adults for living with their families
> pushing debt slavery
I wonder who is behind this post.
>>80624073
It's not a bad city, either.
>>80624602
Baby boomers started that meme
>>80624602
Boomers had the world at their fingertips and pissed it all away.
>>80608206
Doesn't everyone live at home?
Every day, like clockwork.
>>80608206
Housing shortage, immigrants get to cut through the line and get access to living spaces before people whom have searched for a place to live for years, decades even.
>>80628284
Nice try leaf, you can't rationalize failure as a man. Only certain ((people)) want you to stay at home, dropping out of life and playing video games while certain other men are getting their own housing, making love to your women. Get a job ya hippie communist bastard.
>>80630948
>Sweden
kek
>>80608206
Why should I move out when I'm still in school, the housing market is trash, and my parents don't have a problem with putting me up anyway?
Also renting is a scam.
>>80631142
But what if I have a well-paying job and I still live with the family?
Why does everyone have to search a housing if the housing market is failling and debt is lurking everywhere, and is rather relying on the stability and success of multi-generational homes?
>>80631936
I'm pretty sure that it's been covered that if you are gainfully employed full time, and you are living at home out of tact, rather than necessity, the argument doesn't fall upon you.
Then again, one would wonder why the thread would be made at all if that was the case.
>>80631936
Personal housing is an element of independence and self sufficiency, ergo it is a value inherent to manhood and maturity. It is part of the cycle. Debt and the fallibility of the housing market are new hurtles and are unfortunate, but that should not serve to stop you entirely. Millions of hard working Americans (including myself) get past them and eventually get their own housing, and this goes both now and in the past.
You don't have to agree with me I suppose, I'm a stranger on the internet, and call me old school, but to many "men" now days don't deserve the title, they're children in grown bodies, and I think what I stated above plays a part in that.
Also I hope your pic is not meant to contribute to your argument. Adams was talking about independence from the English and the harsh financial penalties they imposed. I love Liberty over wealth, so I chose to endure financial hardship so that I could be a man and have a place of my own.
>>80608206
Do you know how to properly use an apostrophe?
>>80608206
Because I can? I just graduated, I'll move out once I get a job. I like living at home but I don't like the lack of freedom, it's going to drive me up the wall if I'm not out of here in the next few months
This has always been my conflict.
I see friends who still live with their parents and they are doing fine, they have jobs and travel like no big deal, basically they see their parents as roommates. Then you have others who live by themselves and sometimes they have to sacrifice many things, they have to sell their stuff or have to find a roommate in order to survive another month, funny enough, they mock anyone who still live with their parents because they see them as not being mature enough
My sister still lives with my folks because he plans is to inherit the house because she likes the house, still has a job and has her life without my folks stepping in.
Meanwhile I decided to live outside, I am sharing it with a friend, not a well located place but is affordable and have rooms for each one, sometimes when I visit my parents i want to stay a few more days since it feels more homelike unlike the apartment but going back could mean giving up or feel pathetic.
It sucks how society has the mentality of not living by yourself = not worthy, not mature or not for relationship/marriage. Then again I just like to live far from them because i feel is different to share your taste with someone who is not blood related
